GM RP Driven Mist event for Interim Kage

[honest echo]

I feel like this is the perfect opportunity to have a really cool payoff to all the "civil war" that is going on in Mist for some time already.

Right now we have no Kage and no Council.

I believe it would be really fun to have a GM driven Event, some kind of 1v1 tourney (or team tourney, whatever), to decide who's going to be Kage until next elections.

The story writes itself, and it's peak:

After weeks of divide in the village, the Kage spot is finally open and now all the factions that formed fight for the position.
After the war settles (in like 2 or 3 weeks), we can have an election like initially intended.

Edit for clarity:
The suggestion is that, the RP GM together with the community, could come up with some kind of scenario involving the Kage position, just for this short time until next election. Since we're mist, PvP is the way!
Whoever is chosen wouldn't be kage for a full term, it would just be an interim kage (Maybe even with limited power, or just as a token position, whatever).

If you're not from mist, right now we don't have a Kage, nor a Council. This feels like a really fun opportunity to do some crazy in game event, following the introduction of RP GMs!

[tidal fractal]

you have no kage ?

[lavish maple]

Uhiwi is banned

[glad nymph]

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[tidal fractal]

huh

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[tidal fractal]

??

0 council?

[lavish maple]

Yeah there’s none

[ivory bridge]

@west terrace

[lavish maple]

But I mean the idea isn’t bad, but it’s a lot of effort for some alt to hop on his wm/tai/bubble and win mist kage for a week lol

[tidal fractal]

i reported it to @storm dust he told me he will talk with the team

[honest echo]

I mean, it's a lot of effort, but isn't that RP GMs job? 😅

This is peak opportunity of doing something really cool

But I agree, it's a lot of work for something that will be relevant for like 2 weeks

[lavish maple]

Is it worth it for 1 week of kage lol

[honest echo]

Well, I think it is 🙂

It would be a really cool payoff to all the conflict we have at mist

It could even be a way to bring the community together

[lavish maple]

🤔

[honest echo]

Most Mist players really like all the "duel for kage" roleplay.

[lavish maple]

It would be a good system for actually selecting a kage yeah

[glad nymph]

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[tidal fractal]

alright

[honest echo]

this bot...

[lavish maple]

But a 1v1 event to be kage for a week is more a waste than anything

[honest echo]

I don't think so. I think it's a really cool opporunity for an inpactul RP event, even more now that we have RP GMs.

It's a great opporunity of using said position for something really nice, for a village that has been lacking coesion for a long time

But I agree it's work.

[lavish maple]

Impactful how? It’s an event that’ll be dominated by a random melee mastery and it’s for a rank that’ll only last a week

Better off having the rp gm sit as kage until the term ends and making it an event to pick the next actual kage

[tidal fractal]

Or you just give this person 1 more week of his actual 3 months term

or we just wait and if a rp gm wants to rp one can do so without the need of powers to exile etc

[honest echo]

Just make it a 4v4 then. Kage + Council, idk.
I'm not the GM responsible for this, I'm just giving the suggestion that this is a great opporunity to make something great 🙂

And Mist is the village based on 1v1 power, that's the whole lore of the village

[lavish maple]

It’s just a ton of effort for a week of filling in lol

[honest echo]

7sm is about winning 1v1. Kage is about winning 1v1.

[tidal fractal]

question tho, why don’t you do that? is the power to exile pardon needed ?

as in make an rp event with the village (not you alone everyone)

decide for some leader - who can’t pardon and exile for a week

[honest echo]

Well, we CAN organize it, but since there are RP GMs now, isn't this their job?

[tidal fractal]

no, not everything falls under gms ofc if he wants to why not.

[lavish maple]

It’s their job to make large rp events, not sure it’s their job to rush one so mist can have a week long kage term

[tidal fractal]

but if you guys actually show interest I’m sure it will happen anyway

you can declare anyone a leader together and then even vote for him in a week

[foggy acorn]

3 weeks, and tbh it is worth it

[honest echo]

Dude, can you think of a bigger RP event right now than this? lol

[tidal fractal]

Oh 3 weeks hm

ye that’s worth it

[lavish maple]

3 weeks if it were to happen right now

[honest echo]

Let me ask you one thing: Are you a Mist player? 🤔

If not, why do you care so much about this NOT happening?

[lavish maple]

I’d say just about anything is bigger than a 1v1 for a week long kage event lol

[honest echo]

This has nothing to do with you lol

[tidal fractal]

Well it’s a player ideas in nin gen he can give his opinion

[lavish maple]

I mean, I could join said event just as easily as you 😂

[honest echo]

For Mist players is, in world, the most important thing going on right now

I mean, our village has no leadership at all

[tidal fractal]

that’s true

[lavish maple]

Just don’t see the point in doung tbis so you can have a temporary kage for one week

[tidal fractal]

3 weeks no leader is terrible especially with new players around

[honest echo]

None. We have no council, no kage, in a village that is structured trough STRENGTH, in lore

I can't think of a better RP event than actually following the village's lore

[lavish maple]

Better off making a gm the kage and arguing to make the election into a blood tournament again

[glad nymph]

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[ivory bridge]

(If they ask me to do something regarding the Mizukage situation I would be willing to put together a scenario revolving around it that results in the end of a new kage but it depends how the rest of the team may go about this, just be patient and you’ll get an update regarding the mist kageship ongoing issue.)

[honest echo]

Oh, nice!
People at Mist Discord really liked the idea. I hope you guys work with the community to come up with something cool 🙂

[glad nymph]

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[tidal fractal]

oh my god

[lavish maple]

Yeah Rory has ruined this server until he removes the bot

[tidal fractal]

I try again: it’s sad mist has such activity but never had a stable leadership

( In the last weeks )

[glad nymph]

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[tidal fractal]

okay I’m out

[lavish maple]

It’s not 3 weeks lol

It’s 3 weeks if the kage were to happen today 🤣

[tidal fractal]

[tired laurel]

GG @tidal fractal, you just advanced to level 30!

[tidal fractal]

im confused

so when would be a next kage elected ?

Like when does the „register for council“ start?

[lavish maple]

The first of august.

So if you made this event, gave everyone a weeks notice to be able to join, they’d be kage for a little over a week.

[tidal fractal]

I guess best solution that a GM takes over leadership

be it RP or non RP but def not bad to test RP

[honest echo]

It's the easiest, sure, but really boring.

[tidal fractal]

I agree that a short term kage especially 1 week will not be the best and probably attract a lot who just want the robe

but maybe they would actually earn it if they do such a big rp eh idk

[honest echo]

Idk if you guys are Mist players, but right now, we have like 3 "factions" in the village, bickering all day.

It would be REALLY cool to organize a RP event with said factions, maybe each of them electing a group to fight.

It would be temporary, so even if someone bad gets Kage, it's just for 2 weeks or so

[tidal fractal]

I know, we not mist players but it always had stability problems

[honest echo]

Mist players really dig the PvP thing for "power".

[tidal fractal]

those who are banned have still tons of friends there that prob show their frustration now

[honest echo]

So yes. It would be easier to just assign a GM for 3 weeks.

[tidal fractal]

Just a guess

[honest echo]

But isn't this game about being hardcore? So why now, out of nowhere, the "easy" way out is the only option?

[glad nymph]

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[lavish maple]

Bro

[tidal fractal]

The problem is time and limited staff but @ivory bridge showed his willingness to make smth if he gets the allowance so the chances are good

[honest echo]

Yeah, it's a spur of the moment thing. But I think those are the best opportunities 🙂

[glad nymph]

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[lavish maple]

Is it flagging the word mist????

[honest echo]

I think it's the ele... word

So you don't talk about trump

[lavish maple]

Election

[honest echo]

Idk then

lol

[glad nymph]

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[lavish maple]

Omg beo

[honest echo]

Yeah it's impossible to have a conversation with this bot hah

[tidal fractal]

im sorry tho you all have to deal with that you all def played hardcore while leaf and sand had stable leadership with people also making concepts for new ones

[honest echo]

It's ok. PvP to decide things is the mist way. That extends to Discord PvP

We have fun with this

That's why I think this is a great opportunity to make the mist culture into a really cool PvP event.

[tidal fractal]

Yes, you. Not everyone who picks mist tho knows

[glad nymph]

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[tidal fractal]

xD

[lavish maple]

Brother omg

[tidal fractal]

yea

[honest echo]

Nah, if you go to mist Discord you'll see a lot of people always saying that we should 1v1 for Kage, etc. Of course it's jokes, because 1v1 for kage is a bad idea.

But the sentiment is there.

[tidal fractal]

it happened before in a way

Different structured

[lavish maple]

Would be a good idea if it were for a full term

[tidal fractal]

but current one was the last boss if he still was around

it worked well but it also took a lot of time

[honest echo]

Just so I understand: Do you think this RP event is a bad idea, or you jus think it can't be done in time?

Because if it's the latter, than that's to the GM to decide.

[lavish maple]

It’s a good idea, if it weren’t for a 1 week term

[tidal fractal]

I just fear of a lot of people just attending for cloak and will be less active than the banned ones

[lavish maple]

That’s what it’ll be

[tidal fractal]

(You keep the Hokage cloak , can even turn it in for another version you can always wear, just to explain)

[lavish maple]

Everyone is going to hop on their mist 1v1 alts and smoke the actual misties and its just for a week long term

[tidal fractal]

many want that obv because it’s an item you can only get by being kage

[finite magnet]

if its only a week long term who cares if someone is just there for cloak, let them atleast mist might actually have a kage

[lavish maple]

For what a week? Why not save this for an actual term lol

I mean they really didn’t have a kage even before Uhiwi’s ban

[tidal fractal]

yea.. true

[finite magnet]

interim or full kage should be ToP, mist needs a mizu for ce

[foggy acorn]

This

[tidal fractal]

also true…

I forgot about that

they have a point @lavish maple

[lavish maple]

Just makes it even harder to do lol

[honest echo]

That's why a RP GM should lead the event

[glad nymph]

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[tidal fractal]

ok

[honest echo]

In mist we have clear groups of leadership.

It wouldn't be hard for each group to elect a team to the tourney

That way you can't really have a random from Leaf joining

[lavish maple]

You’d need to organize all this, host it and have a new kage and then have them host a CE within like 2 days 🤣

[foggy acorn]

I mean, misties should not be punished because the councils and kage hot banned doing a terrible job

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

Dude, the person who's organizing CE is not even the Kage

[tired laurel]

GG @honest echo, you just advanced to level 5!

[lavish maple]

Bro this bot

[tidal fractal]

who is it

[lavish maple]

lol what

[honest echo]

The only semblance of rules we have for CE are made by Leitin, and the person who's doing any semblance of training of new players/organizing is Leiting and Demon

[tidal fractal]

ah thought so

he was kage before ?

[lavish maple]

So you’re saying literally nothing has changed with uhiwis ban then

[honest echo]

Well, yes.

We didn't had council already

so idk what to tell you

[tidal fractal]

I mean someone who was kage before organizing events, organizing CE … makes sense to give him for last weeks?

[lavish maple]

Better off having a GM play kage lol

[honest echo]

I think you're approaching this from your perspective that the village is organized and Kage is relevant. That's not what's happening to mist.

[lavish maple]

At least you won’t get bias chunin picks too

[honest echo]

If a random lvl 10 gets Kage right now I'm not sure it would change much

[foggy acorn]

Facts

[lavish maple]

But to plan this and squeeze it in days before CE

Then have them do the CE is just a lot lol

[tidal fractal]

just give it to Leiting

[lavish maple]

Leiting the guy in akat?

[honest echo]

Yeah, don't take me wrong. I totally agree with you.
But since we have new RP GMs now, I think it could be a great opportunity

[honest echo]

Not everyone in the village agrees with that tho

[tidal fractal]

alright then @glad nymph will be your new kage

[lavish maple]

Everyone’s never going to completely agree

But it makes no sense to be leiting to be fair

[honest echo]

Yeah, but this is Mist. We resolve things by fighting

Anw, I think we already said everything we had to say about this.

The idea is cool, time is short. It'll depend if RP GMs are up to the task

[tidal fractal]

I have way more to say but the bot won’t let me

[honest echo]

Yeah 😦

[foggy acorn]

Most of the playerbase agrees on the 1v1. But atm people want mist to have a CE since this complicates the situation a lot

[finite magnet]

the village wants ToP if not Mangetsu as kage

[honest echo]

Again, I can only see this working if a RP GM organizes the "event", and it would be REALLY cool for us Mist players.

I understand time constraints, and complications and whatever, but I can only hope 🙂

@lavish maple Different cultures 🙏

[finite magnet]

tournament is more entertaining and faster than an election

[honest echo]

Violence is not the answer, it's the question 🤣

[tidal fractal]

you talk a lot about „we all agree etc“ is this really the case ?

Im just surprised

[lavish maple]

Ofc not

[honest echo]

Well, most people think 1v1 to decide Kage sucks (me included), but as an event with an interim kage, everyone seemed to agree at our discord

I sent this thread there too.

And a lot of mist players upvoted, even Leiting

[tidal fractal]

I see

[lavish maple]

There’s also a group of BR mist who oppose you guys though lol

[finite magnet]

then let BR join ToP

[honest echo]

Yeah that's the other faction 😛

[lavish maple]

Why just to change them in a week lol

[foggy acorn]

They dont engage in pvp at all

[finite magnet]

yes

[honest echo]

Because It's FUN

[lavish maple]

Fun doesn’t make it a good idea though

[ripe yarrow]

I like the idea, i dont play mist but it seems like it would be fun

[glad nymph]

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[lavish maple]

Omg man

[finite magnet]

let the new players get a taste of what mist used to be

[ripe yarrow]

i do agree with hyach too tho

[lavish maple]

They’ll complain the second they do lol

[finite magnet]

doubt it but even if they do, its only a week

[honest echo]

It's temporary tho

I agree it's a terrible idea as something definitive, but as a one week event? Really cool.

[lavish maple]

Which is exactly why it’s a waste lol

[honest echo]

By that logic every single RP event is a waste....

[lavish maple]

I mean, most aren’t for 1 week terms

[finite magnet]

can't gm's host tournaments with a single command now?

[honest echo]

If they do a world boss event that lasts one day, then it's a waste

If they do some crazy Akatsuki invasion that lasts 1 week, then it's a waste...

[tidal fractal]

requires a set date etc

[honest echo]

I don't like your argument because it invalidates any kind of RP event you can think of, unless the consequences are forever.

[lavish maple]

Just arguing things with no relevance lol

[honest echo]

We just had the announcement of RP GMs. They exist exactly for situations like this

[lavish maple]

1 week ≠ forever lol

[honest echo]

That's the whole purpose of them: Creating captivating RP situations

What's more captivating than a whole Civil War for kage

[glad nymph]

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[lavish maple]

Just to be clear too

What you’re asking for is not rp

[honest echo]

?

[lavish maple]

You might have a rp story behind it in your head

[honest echo]

How is it not RP?

[lavish maple]

But you’re asking them to host a 1v1 toruament lmao

[honest echo]

...

You can simplify any event to that. CE: You're hosting a battle royale tournament.

👴

You think CE is not a roleplaying event?

[lavish maple]

Except chunin exams has more steps than a 1v1 tournament, and is graded on rp too, a 1v1 tournament is not lol

[honest echo]

"I believe it would be really fun to have a GM driven Event, some kind of 1v1 tourney (or team tourney, whatever), to decide who's going to be Kage until next elections."

I never said it should be a 1v1 tournament and call it ad ay...

[lavish maple]

“1v1 or team tourney”

[honest echo]

A GM Driven Event, focused on PVP. Yes.

Because that's the Mist way, pvp. We fight for positions of power, that's our whole lore.

[ivory bridge]

( I would stand over everyone like shao khan and watch everyone rip each other apart for a less than 1 month Mizukage term)

[honest echo]

Ngl, making the whole mist village Danger Zone, and the team that lasts at the end becomes kage + council would go hard.

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

Actual civil conflict

[granite scroll]

Yeah, term end in 1th august if im not wrong, who will want be kage for 2 weeks or so?

[lavish maple]

Wll apparently a lot of people, I agree with the system just rather save it for a full term

[granite scroll]

Thats a really non sense ngl, if 1v1 was a good idea why they changed it? We can also let ppls win if someone pay for it or even use friends alt to keep being kage.

[honest echo]

I don't think you read the post at all 😅

But it's fine.

The idea is not, and never was, to just throw a 1v1 tournament and call it a day.

We have RP GMs now, and the idea would be to use said resource to organize an Event, involving PvP, to elect an interim kage.

[granite scroll]

That a waste of time since term is almost end.

[honest echo]

It's a fun event. Every event is a waste of time, this is a game lol

[granite scroll]

Nah, a new kage mean will change the whole village for less than 3 weeks

Dont make any sense

[honest echo]

Well, the village is in shambles anw

At least make it interesting.

[granite scroll]

Its what u think but u dont play there much right?

What is the point of a new kage with 3 weeks term?

[lavish maple]

It would be at most 1.5 weeks lol

[granite scroll]

Lmao

[honest echo]

Fun.

[granite scroll]

What fun?

In the end of term?

Make new players be lost about a new kage?

Again, its like 3 weeks

[honest echo]

We don't have a KAge lol

It's already confusing.

[granite scroll]

Its not

Confuse is have a random person of nowhere who will change everything and make ppls be used to them.

Again > 3 weeks

[honest echo]

I know current kage is your friend or whatever

But the guy is not even kage anymore

we have no kage, no council, we have a crazy "shadow kage"

how is that not confusing?

[rapid stratus]

Wtf happened to your Kage?????

[granite scroll]

Its not about be a friend, that would be in leaf or even sand that dont make sense

[honest echo]

Got banned

[rapid stratus]

LOL for what?

[granite scroll]

What is the point of a 3 weeks kage?

Lmao disaster

[honest echo]

This is funny because right now e don't have a kage, and we don't have a council

And Verakia is arguing that it'll be confusing for new players lmao

[lavish maple]

I mean she isn’t wrong either lol

[rapid stratus]

Yeah his argument on the confusing part makes no sense. I get the whole one week Kage thing tho it's a tough spot

[granite scroll]

Ofc cause even without " council " or even kage ppls already used how mist is and keep playing, a new kage mean a new term and mean the whole village will change.

[lavish maple]

You would have a random account take over kage for 1 week, and then vote on a new one. It’s odd.

[honest echo]

I don't disagree that a 3 week kage is "pointless", but the confusing argument is not it

[granite scroll]

Change for 3 weeks and then another term again

[lavish maple]

How would it not be confusing?

[honest echo]

We'll ahve an interim kage for 3 weeks either way

[lavish maple]

When some random person wins on their alt and then gets replaced a week later 🤣

[granite scroll]

Imagine, if do a election then u need at least 5 days to ppls vote, if u do a 1v1 even uhiwi can use a alt and win again.

[rapid stratus]

It's not like they can change the village that much so not sure how it's confusing lol

[granite scroll]

What u said dont make any sense bro

[lavish maple]

? They can lol

[honest echo]

Like I already said a bunch of times, we have RP GMs that can work with the community to organize something cool

[rapid stratus]

I mean how so?

I'm genuinely asking of course. I'm new so idk how Kage works fully

[lavish maple]

Say I take kage, i remove everyone I dislike, and I turn every org into my friends lol

[honest echo]

We have like 3 "main" factions inside mist. The GM can take 30 minutes to talk to each of them, each faction choses 4 players, they fight in a war, done. No way a random player gets kage

[granite scroll]

I think he really dont know how terms work, u cant just put a random for kage for 3 weeks lol

[lavish maple]

Now you have a sand main as your 1 week kage and I turn your village into sand 2

[rapid stratus]

So just based on removing and org management okay makes sense

[honest echo]

Again, thinking about this is not my job. We have RP GMs that have this as their "job"

[lavish maple]

Kage is open to rogues too

[honest echo]

At the elections, sure

[lavish maple]

ToP too

[honest echo]

During this RP event? It can be easily curated.

[granite scroll]

What would make more sense is take the 3 councils ( even without the role cause they won the election ) and make them vote for a new kage.

[lavish maple]

So you’d change how everything works just for a 1 week term

[honest echo]

Its an event dude

[granite scroll]

Id u really think need a kage for 3 weeks

[honest echo]

Not something definitive.

[lavish maple]

An event for an entire village

[granite scroll]

A event for term dont make sense.

[honest echo]

It's something fun for the village.

[dense horizon]

At this point just start a new election and give the term an extra 3 weeks essentially

[rapid stratus]

Yeah only way it'd work is take away exile and organization power lolol

[lavish maple]

Yeah even this would be better.

[honest echo]

We'll probably go 3 weeks without kage, whatever

[rapid stratus]

Yeah not a bad idea Montoya

[honest echo]

I know this is the easy way out. I just believe this is a great opportunity for something fun

[lavish maple]

It’s not that it’s an easy way out. You’re way is just asking for too much too fast lol

[granite scroll]

It change everything for everyone who main the village , is not like play with a doll house that u put a random "person" and do what u want

[honest echo]

Talk to 3 people, ask them to organize 3 teams, make them fight each other, done...

How's that too much lol

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

Everyone else is neutral or part of one of the 3 main groups in mist.

[granite scroll]

Bro even @lavish maple ( example ) who are not mist can win it and be the kage then, or even a leaf alt.

[lavish maple]

You want to jam an event into 1 week, exclude anyone not involved in whatever story you have going on… just for them to be kage for a week

[granite scroll]

Where it make sense

[honest echo]

You can't, because this is supposed to be a RP Event organized by a GM with the mist community.

If a random sand alt tries to join, he shouldn't be allowed, simple as that

[tired laurel]

GG @honest echo, you just advanced to level 6!

[lavish maple]

But you can because that’s how every village is. You can be rogue and participate

Or just on an alt you have tucked in the village

[granite scroll]

And how u will know if that mist or sand or leaf?

[honest echo]

Like I already said, we have some main factions at mist.
Blood Mist, your Discord and Demon's Discord, for example

Those people are mist mains, talking every day, organizing events, trying to make the village better.

A RP GM could work with you all to make something cool.

[lavish maple]

You can’t just exclude anyone not apart of these factions lol

[honest echo]

But whatever.

[honest echo]

You can lol

[lavish maple]

You can’t. It’s unfair to the rest of the players lol.

[granite scroll]

Did u think gms should waste theirs time checking ppls ip to know if is a alt or not to a 3 weeks terms?

[honest echo]

Those 3 groups are fighting for weeks about who's the kage and whatever, everyone else is neutral or chill

They're not part of this RP at all

[granite scroll]

Oh man come on

[lavish maple]

But theyre apart of the village, they should have the same chance lol

[honest echo]

You know we have RP GMs now that are dedicated exclusively to doing RP events right?

[granite scroll]

That dont matter, if mist are allowed to join then gms will need check all accs that join to make sure it.

Nonsense.

[honest echo]

Can't the same be done at ellections?

lol

You guys have a bunch of alts to vote

[foggy acorn]

it can, and trust me, your idea is great. Dont listen to others

[honest echo]

It's funny to read those arguments because they're equally valid for elections...

[tidal fractal]

new system got added, was possible. We will see next election

[honest echo]

You guys elected your friend, dude dipped, did nothing for the village and got banned

lmao

[tidal fractal]

Was there even anyone going against uhiwi

to be fair, the village was not really active before steam release

[granite scroll]

U really want compare 3 councils + 1 kage to a event that ppls will cry if the whole mist cant join?

[honest echo]

We don't have council

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

Your Kage is not really good at his job.

[tidal fractal]

lol

[honest echo]

This bot makes us so polite

[rapid stratus]

Which Kage?

[dense horizon]

Just me me mizu and be done with it

[honest echo]

Everyone was kidna doing their own thing waiting for the next term. Uhiwi was pretty much a token in there

[glad nymph]

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[lavish maple]

Omg

[granite scroll]

First u dont even play mist well to know it, second for a village with 15 players before steam mist was active af we use leaf numbers × us in example.

[dense horizon]

I didnt get to read it

[granite scroll]

So what are u about if u just start play and dont even play since term start?

[tidal fractal]

to be fair since term start uhiwi wanted to quit

[granite scroll]

Or u was hide in some map when uhiwi got kage and didnt talked with ppls?

[honest echo]

I've been playing for a month. Tht's enough to know Uhiwi is pretty much a token Kage

[granite scroll]

Cause im sure u was not even playing it

[lavish maple]

I mean what does any of this have to do with a 1v1 event for a 1 week kage that’ll more than likely be won by a alt

[honest echo]

She's triggered because Uhiwi is her friend 😦

[tidal fractal]

ye he is banned his case is closed and his councilors are banned too

[honest echo]

And he's their Kage

[tidal fractal]

no need to discuss

[lavish maple]

I mean you’re bringing him up too

[granite scroll]

Nah im targetting you cause what u said is a nonsense, if that happened in firdt month then would be good, but again term end in 3 weeks.

3 weeks term is a shame.

And change everything to everyone who main the village, again would be in leaf or even sand i think the same.

[rapid stratus]

Yeah youd have to make it so they can't exile or change organizations and then what's the point?

[honest echo]

Let me say one thing: You guys love to tell new players how PvP is how the game goes, and how Hardcore it is. So if you don't like what someone can do in 3 weeks, make a group and win the tournament

[lavish maple]

That’s kinda the point…

[rapid stratus]

You really want Anaconda being your Kage trust me you don't.....

[lavish maple]

A random group will come and win it and just flip mist until the election 🤣

[rapid stratus]

Yeah imagine Akatsuki takes it over lol that would be toxic

[granite scroll]

Again> if we do vote then need at least 5 days, if its a 1v1 or w/e everyone can join and even last kage can win it.

Orgs is not the problem for me but for who pay can be since again, only 3 weeks.
U also should need new councils too what is a nonsense with this 3 weeks, if the point is " we dont have a kage " keep mist without a kage and gn host the ce.
Simple.

[honest echo]

Dude we already talked about this point. It could be curated by the community/GM

[trail holly]

This is not doable sorry

[granite scroll]

A new kage can in example just exile everyone who are active or kick ppls out org when they are who play there, i can even bring a leaf to be mist kage of he/she win it.

[lavish maple]

You can’t just block people from going for the rank because they’re not apart of your rp

[rapid stratus]

Yeah I get it man it's a double edged sword

[honest echo]

But this is the same for ellection

[trail holly]

You cannot expect gms to check 24/7 on the kage

[lavish maple]

What?

[honest echo]

I mean, there are already rules for participating in the elections

[granite scroll]

He just like rage bait, look br chat and even some players ideas and u will get it.

Again: A TERM IS NOT ONLY RP, u cant put a random who won a RP with 3 weeks term.

[honest echo]

just apply the same rules for this lol

[lavish maple]

Anyone can vote or become kage lol

[honest echo]

No

[granite scroll]

And gms have so much work to lock ppls ip

[lavish maple]

Well if you’re level 20+.

[honest echo]

No.

There are criteria now to vote, just so you know.

[rapid stratus]

Tbh make me Kage I'll turn it into Takumi part 2 anyone down?

[trail holly]

Lilian im ngl by the looks of conversion you dont know the rules properly

[granite scroll]

Imagine " u cant join it cause i look here and your ip is same as ip from a LEAF main " did u think that would be good to game?

[trail holly]

Theres no ip lock

[lavish maple]

The criteria is “based on activity”

[trail holly]

Theres caracter lock and its activity based

And you cannot lockout people because they disagree with ur rp

Also you cannot expect gms or admins to manage kages

Thats ridiculous

[granite scroll]

Yes.

[honest echo]

We have RP GMs that exists precisely for organizing things like this lol

[trail holly]

No thats not their job

Ur wrong

[granite scroll]

We know you are a new player but bro, nin is not like that.

[honest echo]

That's what's happening right now dude. We have no Kage.

[trail holly]

Their job is rp events

Kage is not an rp event

[granite scroll]

Sorry to make u feel meh

But nin is not like that

[trail holly]

You want to make it a rp event

[honest echo]

GMs will need to organize it lol

[trail holly]

But its not one

[honest echo]

Why not?

[trail holly]

And it should never be a rp event

Because this is not a rp game

[honest echo]

Because you don't want to?

[granite scroll]

Guys he dont listen, is a waste of time try teach him

[trail holly]

No because this is not a rp game

And u cannot force people to rp

[honest echo]

So why do we have RP GMs, and RP Quests

[granite scroll]

Oh god

[trail holly]

There are no rp rules as well

[honest echo]

🤔

[trail holly]

Because a small part of community likes it

Rp is not enforced

And is not mandatory

[granite scroll]

Did u read the announcement gm made? Where he said ppls are forced to rp?

[trail holly]

And making kage into a rp event is a terrible idea

For multiple reasons

[granite scroll]

U are literally saying we need force mist to rp to have a kage?

[trail holly]

Now if u wanna make it a pvp event thats fine

[glad nymph]

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[trail holly]

But no one gonna go with your rp event

I can guarentee u that

[ripe yarrow]

🍿

[honest echo]

I mean, just look at the upvotes in this thread

[trail holly]

A pvp tournament is fine

[tidal fractal]

it's a suggestion not the reality... can we all calm down

[trail holly]

12 upvotes?

Brother look thats nothing

We have over 300 players

[honest echo]

And again, this is a suggestion.

[trail holly]

Wake up to reality

Im being the nicest as i can

The suggestion is fine

[honest echo]

So move on

[trail holly]

But u cannot expect people to play along with rp

And u cannot demand gms to control kage

Thats not good for the game

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

lol

[honest echo]

They just banned our kage dude

[trail holly]

Yeah because he abused token

Which is a rule break

Has nothing to do with what he did as kage

[honest echo]

So they can control Kage, but can't control kage? 😛

[trail holly]

And they dont control what decisions he made

Dont try to ragebait me

I have hours of experience on this

You read what i said

[honest echo]

And you read what I said. I never said GMs should control Kage at all. This is even an idea so they don't chose a random person to be interim KAge, but make it a village wide event.

[trail holly]

Also to clarify something for you.
The direction ueda is taking is to automate kage

Your suggestion goes against uedas plans

This is just to give u some clarity on this topic

So your post despite being fine and i even like it

Will most likely not be considered

[honest echo]

Again, this is a suggestion. Staff member already said it's a cool idea and he'll look at it.

If Ueda do not want this, then whatever.

It's not up to you, or Verakia to decide.

[trail holly]

Its also not an idea

[granite scroll]

They can ban him for break a nin rule but cant force a whole village join a rp to choose a new kage or force others gms to lock ip to prevent alts from others villages or even uhiwi to win it.

If someone that not mist win it like u want ( example ) the gm will be not able kick him and will need let him to run mist.

The person would kick everyone orgs, exilw ppls or troll everyone and will be kage cause he won thr rp event.

So yeah, nonsense.

[trail holly]

Mist kageship used to be a tournament

This is not a new idea lilian

Thats why the gm said he was gonna look into it

[honest echo]

Never said it was.

[trail holly]

Because this was the old way people got kage on mist

[honest echo]

I know Kage used to be 1v1.

I talk about that in the post, 1v1 for kage is mist lore

[trail holly]

And im sure community would like this to be back

The problem is this doesnt fix any issues

It will only create more

[granite scroll]

Like ppls paying for win fights in example.

[trail holly]

And theres a reason why these systems were removed

[granite scroll]

U can literally pay for be kage.

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

This suggestion is not trying to fix any issue

At all.

[granite scroll]

And gms cant do nothing about cause u won the pvp

[honest echo]

This is not even a suggestion to change how Kage is chosen

[trail holly]

My point is theres a lot to this post thats pointless sadly

[glad nymph]

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[trail holly]

Because as far as im aware theres no plans to return to old system and the plan is to automate kage

[honest echo]

The suggestion is simple: We have RP GMs now, they could talk to the village in the Discord and come up with something fun related to the Kage position. That's it

[granite scroll]

Game is not about discord.

[trail holly]

Okay but this is not a rp game and kage is not a rp role

Thats what u fail to understand

Sure its an okay idea

[honest echo]

Oh it's not? lmao

[trail holly]

But its not gonna work

Yes its not

[honest echo]

So people running around in Kage clothes, rping as Kage, is not rp?

[trail holly]

You can ask the owner if u want

[honest echo]

🤣

[granite scroll]

Oh god

[trail holly]

Name 1 kage roleplaying in game rn

[honest echo]

So the person who's Kage is not playing the role of Kage?

[trail holly]

No they arent

[granite scroll]

Eleven he wil keep trying rage bate you, drop it

[trail holly]

Do you know what roleplay is

Theres 0 roleplay in this game

0

There are also 0 roleplay rules

[honest echo]

I'm not trying to rage BAIT anyone. You just rage for anything lol

[trail holly]

Kage can exile you without any explanation

[granite scroll]

Give him a better example eleven.

Lilian u see ppks being forced rp in nin online?

[trail holly]

He doesnt need rp to do anything

[granite scroll]

I want know

[trail holly]

In fact the kage can literally do anything

He can even afk

Theres no rules

[honest echo]

Anyone can do anything, and it can still be RP lol. If you're police, you don't need to talk "like police". Just by being police you're already playing a role in the game.

[granite scroll]

Players on nin are forced to keep a char while play and use rp 24/07?

[trail holly]

It doesnt work like that

[granite scroll]

lol

[trail holly]

Rp requires clear rules and guidelines

[honest echo]

Dude this is a suggestion, move on.

[granite scroll]

^

[glad nymph]

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[granite scroll]

Bro u come with it and are meh cause ppls show you are wrong?

[honest echo]

How can I be wrong by suggesting a RP event? lol

[trail holly]

Im just explaning why this suggestion despite me liking it will probably never work

Because u cannot enforce rp

Without rp rules

[granite scroll]

U have players who play it since game start, they will tell u same.

[trail holly]

And u cannot pick a kage with rp

Thats just ridiculous

[honest echo]

Yeah I see that, it's fine.

[granite scroll]

You should move on lilian ngl

[glad nymph]

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[honest echo]

Don't blame me for that.

I know you're upset that your group is disliked by pretty much everyone.

[granite scroll]

Cause man kage is not a event....

[trail holly]

And just so we are clear. I want this to be implemented

Because i prefer the tournament

[honest echo]

I know, and I understand your point, and I agree with it. IT's not simple to do.

[trail holly]

I just think its not possible

[honest echo]

That's why I'm saying this is a sugestion, and RP GMs together with Ueda, should do whatever they think is right.

[trail holly]

The thing is the gms and ueda dont interfere

[honest echo]

I'm not trying to argue this is the right answer, because it's not about fixing an issue, or doing the "right" thing. It's just something FUN

[trail holly]

U think they do

But they dont

[granite scroll]

Idc about ppls dont liking us bro, the only reason mist is active after so many afk terms is us.
U cant make me mad saying it

[trail holly]

The only time ueda or gms interfere with kage

Is when kage abuses the system

Thats is it

[honest echo]

Well, RP GMs are a new thing, so idk what are the limits of them.

[trail holly]

Rp gms are for rp events

They are not for kage system

Thats not related to rp

[honest echo]

And if the community as a majority thinks this could be fun, I don't see why a RP GM couldn't help make it happen.

[trail holly]

Because the majority does not agree with you

13 upvotes is not much

[granite scroll]

So if the comunnity think rory should ban a player he should ban too?

Ur logic is weak.

[honest echo]

What?

[glad nymph]

Hey @trail holly! Your message breaks our rules! You have been warned!

[trail holly]

We just chatting here

[honest echo]

Again, that's the RP GM job to figure out. If it's not a "fun" idea for the village then sure, do not make it.

[trail holly]

No need to argue like that

[granite scroll]

I want really know cause that dont make sense

[trail holly]

Thats where u are wrong
Gms dont interfere at all

They cannot interfere

Its not a rp event

The only thing a gm does is help run the event

Thats it

[honest echo]

That's what I'm saying.

[granite scroll]

If " upvotes " mean comunity need and want that we can post about everything and that need be add cause " upvotes "

[trail holly]

And the future is to have even less gm intervention

Not more

[honest echo]

If Mist community thinks this is a nice idea, it would be fun to have help from the GMs to make it happen, that's pretty much it.

If devs + gm think this can't happen, or the community thinks the idea is not fun, then whatever.

[foggy acorn]

mist government caused more GM intervention than ever

[lavish maple]

Mist community aren’t the only ones who can be mist kage though lol

[granite scroll]

Thats the point u cant control who is mist or not bro

[trail holly]

And yeah like kage is not for mist community

[glad nymph]

Hey @granite scroll! Your message breaks our rules! You have been warned!

[trail holly]

Its for any mist ninja

[granite scroll]

Ye

[trail holly]

U dont need to be in the discord to be a mist ninja ingame

[honest echo]

Yeah, so what?

[granite scroll]

If i log a leaf in a leaf for them too

[honest echo]

Yes. And...?

[granite scroll]

Thats the point

Same for sand

[trail holly]

By that i mean the part u talk about community is pointless lilian

Because ur suggestion makes it so any random pvper can get kage

[honest echo]

I mean, elections are commnuity driven too.

So that argument goes that way too

[trail holly]

It doesnt change the community part

In fact it makes it worse

Because often pvpers dont care about community

And what happened before was a good pvper won and village was dead

[granite scroll]

Elections make ppls vote but dont give a real chance to a non mist win kage so easy like a pvp event.

[trail holly]

0 community

This is a big complex issue

[granite scroll]

Ppls vote more in who are active and mist

[trail holly]

That cannot be fixed easily

[granite scroll]

Ppls who they know are mist

Etc

[trail holly]

I do think tournament is ideally the best way to do it

[granite scroll]

Is not same

[honest echo]

Again, I know this is not "just do a PVP tournament with 0 tought"
This thread is not about whatever social problems exist in Nin online

It's just a suggestion for a cool event.

[trail holly]

Lore wise it fits with mist village

[honest echo]

Yeah.

[granite scroll]

Ur cool event should not put a kage role on it.

[dense horizon]

We already had thhat system and only caused a dead village

[granite scroll]

Is not a " normal event "

[trail holly]

Yeah i understand but despite ur suggestion being simple it involves a very complex system

[honest echo]

Never said it was normal, that's exactly why I think a RP GM should be part of organizing it 🙂

[trail holly]

And its not simple to implement your suggestion at all

[honest echo]

Yes.

[trail holly]

Its quite complicated actually

[granite scroll]

Rp or not kage is not about a event that u win.

[trail holly]

Despite it sounding simple in nature

[honest echo]

I know.

[granite scroll]

And if they do with for mist ppls will cry to do with leaf, sand etc too.

[honest echo]

It literally is. Elections are an event you win.

[granite scroll]

It change things to everyone

[lavish maple]

I mean the end point is, by the time you iron this out and make it happen, it’ll be election time.

[granite scroll]

Its not.

[trail holly]

I would tho prefer this system because in my opinion mist is all about the ruthlessness of its history

[honest echo]

I understand your points Eleven, and I agree with them.

[trail holly]

Exactly my point

[honest echo]

I still think this idea is really cool, for the situation we are in, and I hope GM/Dev gives it a tough.

[trail holly]

I hope too

I personally liked the old kage system

Despite the abuse

[honest echo]

I understand what you and Hyach are saying, and I don't disagree

I'm just counter arguing because I don't want them to discard this idea because someone from Sand said it's not working.

[trail holly]

But being real with you

I doubt they will consider this

[honest echo]

I doubt too

It's worth a try tho

[trail holly]

I hope they try

[honest echo]

Fighting for leadership is mist lore.

That's how all our orgs work in lore

I understand 1v1 for Kage is not a good system. And it's fine that it was changed.

[granite scroll]

And how mist die after a time too with good pvp players and afk ^

[honest echo]

But as a one off event, for 2 weeks? Maybe it could work.

[lavish maple]

This someone from sand has the same amount of input as you though lol

[glad nymph]

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Hey @honest echo! Your message breaks our rules! You have been warned!

[honest echo]

hm

What's the word that's being blocked?

[glad nymph]

Hey @granite scroll! Your message breaks our rules! You have been warned!

[trail holly]

Some random one

[granite scroll]

U should play last terms so u would see what is a afk village.

Since u didnt, nonsense.
Great day to you

[honest echo]

Look, not gonna lie, this thread is not about your politics or how well you think you're doing to save the village.

So bring that back to your discord, please, no one cares.

[granite scroll]

Yeah but since u keep trying target it is a good place to make u think better about what u say.

Anyways gl ❤️

[trail holly]

If u want a gm to host this try with erox

Erox is ur best option id say

He was heavily involved in what mist is today

[honest echo]

I think he already saw the thread

[tired laurel]

GG @honest echo, you just advanced to level 7!

[honest echo]

Well, I understand the complications, I still hope they do something with this, it's a cool moment in the game (no council, no kage, we have people fighting everyday for power in Discord/In game, etc)

It's fine if it ends up with the elections, but an event would be really cool 🙂

[trail holly]

I hope so too

[dense pendant]

As a Mist I 100% agree with Lilian here. If nothing else, as Hyach was aggressively suggesting, this would be a good trial run of the idea of making the Mist Kage election being done through combat in the future.

In addition, even if it does put a Kage in for only a week that is one less week of Mist going without leadership.

[honest echo]

So give the idea an upvote 😛

like and subscribe

[dense pendant]

Bro

Cmon

[lavish maple]

Agressively suggesting 😭

Just a waste of time for a random alt to play kage for a week unfortunately

[dense pendant]

Your opinion is noted and will be weighed against the leaderless population crying out for this exact solution. Let your single voice clash against the deluge and see who is louder to God's ear.

[lavish maple]

Interesting

[dense pendant]

But if you want to argue on the waste of time then I'd ask how a man can repeat himself so many times on the same topic.

[lavish maple]

The relevance being?

I’d say the time wasted between us going back and forth here is significantly less than this event would take to plan and host 😂😂

[dense pendant]

The relevance is self evident, and I'll punctuate it with an adieu to the topic at large now that the die of opinion is cast.

[lavish maple]

😂😂 you’re a character

[teal rose]

Beef for Kage 😄

[teal rose]

This has been done before and showed that it did not work because any alt from other villages can join and win just for the title and robe then afk and play in their actual village

[honest echo]

Again, this suggestion is not to throw a random 1v1 tournament and call it a day. I can understand the counter points, and I agree with a lot of them. Eleven was clear on why he thinks this is hard to pull off, and I agree.

I can guarantee you that in the 700 or so posts in this thread, the "alts will run for kage" thing has already been brought up like 10 times.

This is not a suggestion to change how Kage is elected, nor a suggestion to bring back Blood Duel to decide kage.

The suggestion is for the new role RP GM to help the community organize an event, as a way to bring "closure" to all this nonsense that is going on with Mist.

As this is Mist, PvP is the way to solve conflict.

[lavish maple]

It is 100% is lol

The only real difference is you want it to be exclusive to people involved in this mist conflict

[teal rose]

doesnt make sense to make the village fight in 1v1 because a kage got banned. i dont get the RP

[honest echo]

First of all, never did I say it should be a 1v1, it was just one of other options.

[teal rose]

I'm hearing you out btw so explain more cus OP doesnt fully explain

and im not reading 700 messages lol

[honest echo]

I already typed to much about this lmao, I don't really want to elaborate it anymore heh

[teal rose]

then add it to the OP

LMAO

[honest echo]

But the idea is that we have a bunch of "factions" inside Mist, Leiting being shadow kage, the other Discord, Demon wants to be kage, etc etc.

Now that we have no council, and no kage, and we have those new RP GMs, it feels like prime time to make something cool out of it

instead of just letting the village sit still without a Kage for 3 weeks or so

[teal rose]

then you can say that there are like 50 factions

cus everyone wants it

[honest echo]

Sure, whatever.

So the suggestion is that, the RP GM together with the community, could come up with some kind of scenario involving the Kage position, just for this short time until next election

Whoever is chosen wouldn't be kage for a full term, it would just be an interim kage. Maybe like what we have now with Leiting claiming to be Shadow Kage, but more "official", whatever.

The "hows" are not mine to decide.

[lavish maple]

This dude leiting been claiming to be shadow kage for 5 years now 🤣

[honest echo]

Voices on his head lmao, but whatever. It was just an example

So I'm not suggesting to bring back blood duel to decide Kage, nor anything like that. I'm not pretending to know the limitations of GMs to organize something like that

This is just a suggestion to show there's interest in the community for something fun out of all this mess

[dense pendant]

At this point he's just not listening to you, Lilian, and you gotta let the topic go. You've said all you can say.

[glad nymph]

Hey @honest echo! Your message breaks our rules! You have been warned!

[honest echo]

And comeon, we have a village that its entire lore is VIOLENCE IS THE SOLUTION

and we have NO KAGE, NO COUNCIL, don't you guys want a blood bath out of this? lol

[lavish maple]

I’ve already said I’d agree if the stakes were a full term

Otherwise it’s a lot of effort to not fix any of the current issues

[honest echo]

Yeah, was just elaborating for beef

[somber coyote]

They don't know the lore

Idrc who gets mizu tbh I could get it, beef could get it, Mangetsu could get it

I only came back to fight with mist in dzs

Regardless of who gets it, unless it's another idiot I'm chilling, as for shadow kage this was just a show of force or to keep the ex leadership in check

[glad nymph]

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[somber coyote]

This bot is annoying

[west terrace]

There hasn’t been a Kage for less than 24 hours, relaaaxx I was just waiting for Rory to reply with information I required

[dense horizon]

Is this going to be until the new term or is this going to be the next term

[west terrace]

new term

[somber coyote]

Interim kage right?

Till next elections on August 1st

[lavish maple]

He just said new term lol

Oh actually yeah the way it’s worded I can’t tell 🤣

[normal tartan]

Ppl are saying having a kage for 3 weeks will be confusing, but since I've played we had no council, an afk kage, and no 7sm. How can it get worse? 🤣

[solid raven]

come back to blood and i win again trust me

[finite magnet]

I don't think its ever been a role outside of zoom and leiting

[honest echo]

People saying that are not from Mist lol

[torn gale]

Its fascinating how agitatidly people can argue against this idea, feels like an easy 5/5 suggestion as long someone has energy to host the thing

[dense pendant]

Concessions where they are due; I understand the system was ditched for a reason. I don't think that means it can never be touched on again with fresh eyes and the benefit of hindsight.

[glad nymph]

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[formal nexus]

WHAT RULES

[dense pendant]

Welcome to the new Nincord

[honest echo]

First rule of Nin's Discord: You don't say anything in Nin's Discord

[trail holly]

Well theres multiple reasons why it would not be good.
Starting from this system was ditched due to abuse being the main reason

[somber coyote]

It was for an interim kage anyways

Like 10-20 days