Hybrid Builds and Pure Builds
#Hybrid Builds and Pure Builds
serene tiger
gusty nexus
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Pure Builds can get the best of all worlds: Sustainability, Survivability, and Damage.
Hybrid Builds can only get the best of 2 of them at most.
Hybrid has several downsides to it compared to pure builds: Shared Jutsu Cooldowns, Low damage, no survivability hardly.
and i Quote from Sage," I have 1600 hp, 129 int, and 260 chakra."
- Lower Int Scaling to 50% instead of 60% and make Spiked Ball and Int Wm traps do 65% instead of 75%
- Raise Strength/Agility Scaling to 40%. ( if this is too high lower it to 35% and go from there.)
- Add Soft Caps on damage so after reaching "x" amount of base stats your damage per point invested won't raise at the same ratio anymore. it will be cut in half or 3/4s
storm widget
Isn't agility tai scaling lower due to attack speed
And bubble due to snares which doesn't really snare much due to changes made by balance team
gusty nexus
tai attack speed isnt even that big of a threat unless u exceed 110 agility imo
storm widget
Fair enough and to not make tai meds broken they'll have to chakge the attack speed and damage when activating chakra scalpel cause high damage with speed with scalpels would be toxic looking at it from all factors
gusty nexus
rory would have to change the code around them 2 skills its possible but he wont do it probably.
storm widget
topaz tapir
Is it really me alone notice the more the game updates the more worse it becomes.....also mastering elements also is bad cause you only get 1 points off chk consumption when lvl ing move or move base damage just goes up by 1 ......makes mastering them feel like u accomplished nothing it's call'ed mastering your jutsu at least take 5 s less cool down or base DMG goes up by 5 and chk consumption at least 5 less
storm widget
To be fair you can blame the balance team for that lol
tawny sierra
1. Lower Int Scaling to 50% instead of 60% and make Spiked Ball and Int Wm traps...
how about we dont nerf anything and buff things to the same level so they can compete with each other
terrible post
bro did not think it through before posting this
addiong soft caps on dmg is a terrible idea , u disrupt how scalling and how the entire balance is taken into consideration
and raising agi and str scaling bya mere 5% does 0
when the entire issue relies on tai and str wm kits being dog and the 2 masteries are made to relie on melee dmg
digital vector
Maybe INT based jutsu should cost more chakra
at least until proper balancing can be done, as a GF I know doing anything INT based is nerfing my potential sadly
tawny sierra
its a combination of int having virtualy no downside now that staff exists and the fact that tai and str wm kits keept being heavily nerfed
and it resulted in tai and str wm having dog dmg with jutsus and kits and having to relie on melees
this doesnt help at all when every single int mastery has insane burst dmg that is very easy to hit if ur opponent is right next to you
so in reality the only way to fix this is either reworking the kits
and or buffing the scalling
tai hybrid for example will never be viable until the scalling of tai jutsu remains at 30%
they kept nerfing the tai weapons aswell and now they are just simply worthless weapons
they are purely worse than not using a weapon
thats how terrible they are
digital vector
The fact that people can cloak bomb and take 50%-60% hp is crazy in itself
tawny sierra
nah thats fine
because theres an actual risk to that build
they ahve insanely low hp
digital vector
Im speaking on the fact you can chain so many jutsu at one time, why i say incrase chakra cost on int JUTSU
tawny sierra
and have barely any chakra
extreme builds arent the problem at all
its the fact that tai and str wm cant do any build at all
besides high str/agi
otherwise they are trolling
because the scalling is trash and the kit is also trash
nothing needs a nerf
things just need to be buffed back up to were they were before all the clown nerfs happened
its has simple as giving agi better jutsu dmg scalling revoking the crit nerfs and buffing wm kit backup a bit
nothing else is neeeded
bubble could use a scalling buff aswell
and fan needs to have the old combos back
digital vector
Idk I feel glass canon builds shouldn't even be a thing, where's the balance in that if it disrupts everything else
empty ginkgoBOT
GG @digital vector, you just advanced to level 5!
tawny sierra
i dunno who dafuq thought fan needed a nerf
tawny sierra
Idk I feel glass canon builds shouldn't even be a thing, where's the balance in ...
why?
u want everyone to be playing 2k hp tanks?
its good build variety exists
and its not like theres no downside to those builds
those builds are extremely niche
and very easy to fight against if u just play safe
digital vector
a fight should be a fight, no cloak and ahha i got you typr ish...
tawny sierra
lol
this isnt a 1v1 fighting game
its an mmo
lol
not tryna insult u but thats some donkey logic
its exactly because people were only thinking about 1v1s that the meta is at the state it currently is
digital vector
so what are we balacing for 2v1, 2v2,2v3,?
tawny sierra
we are balancing combat
we arent balacing 1v1 or 2v2 or teamfights
we are balancing the combat of the game
and exactly because people only cried about 1v1 masteries that they are dog rn
and they barely do anything
before we had good 1v1 masteries and good teamfight masteries
now the 1v1 masteries are just trash and feel trash to play because they kept getting nerfs every single patch
exactly because the nin player mentality is in the gutter
what needs to happen urgently is a agi rebalance of scalling and a buff to str wm kit or a rework
digital vector
IMO everything should be 1v1 focused regardless, if you are in a 1v2 cool, you'd probably have a way better fighting chance vs what we have now
tawny sierra
yeah thank god u arent doing balance
game would be terrible
its exactly because the game was balanced more with 1v1s in mind that its in a trash state
digital vector
Bro the TTK in th game is bad at times, you stand no chance alone most the time
tawny sierra
barely any fight in this game is a 1v1
the only time 1v1s occur is in friendly spars or in the 2 daily tournaments
saying balance should be 1v1 focused is probably the worst thing that could happen tot his game
most of the fights are in groups
but we should also not only balance with groups in mind
digital vector
most people die alone...
tawny sierra
that isnt a point about anything
digital vector
point is if you can hold your own despite the build you have in a 1v1, that's the balance im referring to, everything else would fall in placw acrooss the board
tawny sierra
that isnt balance
digital vector
if one overpowers the other, balance it
gusty nexus
isnt it clear
rory wont change certain aspects
hence the proposed ideas
ya nerd
instead of coming on here tho with ur angry ass confrontational speaking
be civil
and chat in a normal tone
crazy to say ur a gm on pirate souls
when u act like this here
tawny sierra
first off
im not a gm
im an admin
secondly what does that have to do with anything u just said
third u dint even identify the games problem corretly
gusty nexus
your attiude is nasty
and i would like that if you cant talk civil
dont talk on my post
tawny sierra
u confuse way i talk
gusty nexus
or i will get a gm involved
tawny sierra
with my attitude
get a gm involved
im already muted
🤣
lol
cant tgake criticism
smh
tawny sierra
if one overpowers the other, balance it
and that way to do that
is to bring up the weak masteries
digital vector
not tryna insult u but thats some donkey logic
you did say this
tawny sierra
not nerf everything like we been doing for the past 3 years resulting in this stale combat meta
digital vector
still rude..
digital vector
that came from me,, my mind,my brain
gusty nexus
you should think before you speak sometimes
digital vector
imagine if your employer said that lol
tawny sierra
i say dumb stuff too
gusty nexus
cuz its offensive to some
tawny sierra
dont mean im dumb
gusty nexus
and some not
tawny sierra
dont mean u dumb for saying dumb stuff
are u categorized by eeverything u say?
no right?
lmao
tawny sierra
cuz its offensive to some
unfortunatly for you idrc what hurts ur feelings
if everyone acted that way
no one would say anything
digital vector
yeahhh you dont get it sadly
gusty nexus
wasnt taught to have manners eithe r i take it
digital vector
lol im just trying to help explain what bro was saying
tawny sierra
🤷
digital vector
lol some people you cant tell anything
gusty nexus
factrs
tawny sierra
i guess bird of the same feather flock together
digital vector
still going over your head
tawny sierra
i didnt insult u
i insulted ur idea
cause it was dumb
doesnt mean ur dumb
like i said 5 minutes ago
if this goes over ur head
then i dunno
digital vector
if you paint something and a say its ugly....is that not rude
tawny sierra
no
its an opinion
lol
so anything negative anyone says to u
is rude?
how are u living ur life then?
lol
digital vector
a rude opinion, you that type to try to justify everything i see
tawny sierra
yeah good lukc living ur life like that
a dumb idea is a dumb idea
end of
if u find that rude
sleek zinc
simply put scaling on all jutsu needs to be looked at. Things that are hard to hit should scale higher to reward going for harder options. While things like homings or instant cast shouldnt scale as high
sleek zinc
simply put scaling on all jutsu needs to be looked at. Things that are hard to h...
Like someone tagged me though that means things like flicker and sub needs to be changed to meet this criteria
tawny sierra
simply put scaling on all jutsu needs to be looked at. Things that are hard to h...
Its the first time i see someone say this
i agree 100%
digital vector
my life is great lmao, im respected in my community and everything that comes with \it with you, its probably not the same
tawny sierra
scalling shouldnt be all the same across the board depending on ur mastery
sleek zinc
its just how i been looking at balance lately
60% on everything int related doesnt make sense to me
tawny sierra
my life is great lmao, im respected in my community and everything that comes wi...
damn u can judge a persons entire rep over discord?
u must be a mind reader cosmic
digital vector
you just did that..
tawny sierra
point it out
tawny sierra
60% on everything int related doesnt make sense to me
yeah thats a big problem too me too
digital vector
casue boy u got it coming for you 🤣
^
sleek zinc
@tawny sierra whats the % chakra med scales off of? is it 30%?
tawny sierra
cause combat roles should be asserted properly
digital vector
did i judge yours?
tawny sierra
<@192999490309849088> whats the % chakra med scales off of? is it 30%?
u mean scalpel scalling?
let me log to check
sleek zinc
i mean like in general for all the jutsus
digital vector
i trully hope u find happyness in life
^ you assumed im not happy
tawny sierra
tawny sierra
^ you assumed im not happy
no i said i hope u find happyness
happyness isnt black or white
u can be happy and extremely happy
🤷
digital vector
what did i say that makes you think i havent found it already
tawny sierra
arguing semantics is pointless anyways
@sleek zinc its around 60%
but its not the same for every skill
tw is around 62%
while cell regen is around 56%
chakra scalpel is 42%
tawny sierra
what did i say that makes you think i havent found it already
again, i dunno if ur happy i just said i hope u find some happyness
bro reading minds through discord messages
sleek zinc
<@219940685178994688> its around 60%
thats so weird that only med has those scalings while the rest of the masteries are locked to either 30% or 60%
tawny sierra
thats so weird that only med has those scalings while the rest of the masteries ...
im not sure how accurate what i just said is.
digital vector
you didnt say some, i can read...