#Pressure Point Needle

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restive belfry
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While not being a bad melee buff, this jutsu needs some change to make it so that there is a point in using it. Currently using it feels like you are handicapping yourself since using a sword is going to always be the better option, even with the cast time they have to equip.

Pressure Point Needle costs 50 chakra, you need to stand still to cast it giving your opponent a chance to cancel/punish and if you fail to use it, it goes on a 5 minute cooldown. Meanwhile swords cost nothing to equip, have better damage and there is no cooldown on equipping them. It feels wrong that Gentle Fist which is a mastery that's meant to fight with fists will benefit more from using a sword than it does from using it's own melee buff.

There should be some change to make this buff worth using over swords. This of course doesn't mean that it should beat swords in a pure melee fight, swords should still be the strongest melees per hit, but the buff should grant u something that swords do not.

My suggestion for this jutsu is this:

Base damage: 4/8/12 -> 0/0/0

Jutsu now gives 10/20/30 flat STR.

Basically the melee buff no longer gives base damage to melee, it instead buffs your STR by a flat amount. This makes it so that a Gentle Fist that uses their melee buff hits harder with jutsu than the Gentle Fist user that uses a sword to melee, giving some value to using this buff over using swords.

The amount of STR increased doesn't need to be as much as I wrote but I think it is not that big of an amount considering the jutsu can be canceled and has a very long cooldown. Additionally, perhaps the base damages of Gentle Fist jutsu could be reduced so that they are weaker when you don't have the buff on.

strong marlin
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The only thing this does is making it so using swords with this buff is even better now for a gf

restive belfry
wanton drift
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🫣 make it so you can't cast gentle fist jutsus without pressure point buff(bad idea)

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Might kill the mastery but it'll force ppl not to equip those swords hyperangeryAkko

vale condor
rich coyote
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Sad to say but I kinda agree with rumaki

Also as for the point you made with casting of pressure point needle it's basicly the same issue with chakra scalpel so you might wanna have that included if you fixing to have this change done for your birthday

jagged star
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I'm assuming this is based off Hyuga's, why not gives us increased dodge change or something similar per jutsu lvl also, just converting from one stat to another does seem a bit lackluster

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Lets just say a 50AGI vs 50STR PPN, would they do the same damage per melee hit?

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And last thing, why not make our punch actually drain chakra, maybe 1 pts per sec like a bleed...just ideas since we had this weapon nerf

hot peak
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That jutsu need to be ATLEAST run Cast with no Self Stun in is current state and a MAJOR CD down

strong marlin
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no buff should be run cast

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terrible idea for multiple reasons

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number 1 being impossible to cancel pretty much if someone doesnt want it to be cancelled

hot peak
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Pression point is they main ''weapon'' any other Hidden mastery sufer from it beside GF

strong marlin
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jutsu needs a complete rework

strong marlin
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its the main weapon of chakra medic

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so why not?

hot peak
strong marlin
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cause its not balanced

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no buff should be run cast

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buff needs to become a long duraiton buff or just a perma passive buff

hot peak
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Since medic can use weapon and not restricted into using they jutsu at same time

strong marlin
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medics canot use weapons with chakra scalpel

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besides tai weapons

hot peak
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Tonfa^

strong marlin
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yeah and who is using tonfas

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no one

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cause they are trash

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they got nerfed to oblivion exactly because of chakra scalpel being so strong

hot peak
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that doesnt change the fact why ppl goes over weapon as GF then pression point

strong marlin
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people go weapon over pressure point cause weapons are simply way too strong

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pressure point in comparission is trash

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but none of this has to do with it being stand cast

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its because the buff is weak

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and has a bad duration

hot peak
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And they dont require you to stand still

strong marlin
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thats not a good arguement

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making it run cast makes the buff impossible to cancel and borderline broken

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bad idea

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u gotta buff effectiveness

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not the way the buff goes off

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even if u change it to run cast as it is

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the buff is still garbage

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so the point stands

hot peak
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It juts gona became the same as equiping a weapon which have a run cast

strong marlin
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no its worse

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cause weapons are still way better than fists with noa tk speed

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swors in particular

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either need a nerf

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or to be locked to wm

hot peak
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Bro ppl arnt play element GF Because they cant use pression point they rather go WM/element

strong marlin
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bro no ones plays gf element cvause its terrible

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even if u buff the pressure point gf hybrid is still trash

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same goes for tai hybrid

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they are bad for multiple reasons but number 1 being the stat split

hot peak
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but other hidden mastery are since they got weapon that can goes along

strong marlin
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if u think pressure point buff is gonna magically make gf hybrid better ur wrong

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what makes fan hybrid good is because they can use their weapon at 40 str

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adn fan is an insane weapon

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bubble hybrid suck just as much as gf hybrid

hot peak
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Oh im well aware it isnt , but i know rory wont make it much Different either so i rather goes around is line

strong marlin
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forget gf tai oer bubble hybrids

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they arent playable in this current meta of high base stats

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and to go back into topic

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pressure point need a rework to turn into a passive

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or major dmg buff and duration buff

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it being run cast or stand cast changes nothing

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people are still gonna use the sword over the buff

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the only thing run cast accomplishes is that the buff becomes uncancellable which is a terrible idea

hot peak
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the buff that it give right now wont change much if it harder to cancel , they have plenty self stun jutsu

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120str Gf will hit you for what 55 dmg or so per melee

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not even

strong marlin
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is a terrible idea

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it doesnt fix the actual problem

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and just introduces a broken mechanic into the game

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an uncancellable buff

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thats why I keep saying its a terrible idea

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again.

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u need to buff dmg and duration

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thats the only way

rich coyote
hot peak
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Giving Stat buff will just make a melee mastery wont melee anymore

strong marlin
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the mastery is caster anyways

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gf whole kit is a caster kit

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its not a melee mastery per say

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most of the things the mastery does wants u to be running away

hot peak
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It all close range vs other mstery

strong marlin
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and waiting for cds

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close range is not the same as melee mastery

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the whole mastery revolves around u casting ur main combo and using ur cancels

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its not a melee mastery like wm and tai that use melees to deal dmg

hot peak
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Because again they have no weapon like other hidden mastery , And Rory pointed the fact Pressure point was they melee weapon

strong marlin
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no

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its because the melee dmg it does is garbage

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and its not because lack of weapon

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its because the buff is trash

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and the jutsus arent

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the jutsus are really good

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in fact their dmg used to be so insane it had to be nerfed

rich coyote
strong marlin
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and btw tai weapons suck ass

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like pure ass

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they are trash

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ur actively trolling if u use a tai weapon these days

hot peak
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Ngl i wish i see GF reworked

strong marlin
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gf is fine

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it just needs the melee buff reworked

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the other jutsus are really good

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the only issue with the mastery is that its really one dimensional

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in the way u should play it

rich coyote
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All imma say is if we changing GF melee buff the same should apply for Chakra meds

strong marlin
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chakra scalpel is fine

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its the strongest buff in the game

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costs nothing to use

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and gives an insane dmg buff

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0 downsides

rich coyote
strong marlin
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thank god it got nerfed

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and im a chakra med main btw

hot peak
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Well it still 100 chakra to use but it is fine

strong marlin
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thats nothing

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its an insane buff

rich coyote
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Ngl I see what you're saying but I'm not seeing what you're saying ingame

strong marlin
tough granite
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This post was about gf pressure point not chakra scalpels. Either way the jutsu should give a benefit to use rather than equip a sword

jagged star
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The more I play GF I feel pressure point needle should make the melee's have extended range, at least 2 tiles once maxed

restive belfry
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Pressure Point isn't a bad melee buff at all, swords are just too good

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don't need to spend chakra to equip sword, no CD and the equip is run cast

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GF does a lot less damage than it used to, people using flicker combo then swapping to LoI swords makes it seem a lot stronger than it actually is

rich coyote
hot peak
mild summit
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pressure point needs to be an extra level 10 jutsu only GF's can use, that compensates for not having a village locked weapon like mist or sand. then add a whole new level 10 jutsu for GF. So at level 10 - GF users will have the melee buff (like mist pipe/ sand fan) + a new level 10 jutsu

jagged star
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we are definitely lacking something, I feel restricted in this mastery at times, PVE situations with melee barely feel rewarding due to lag and still getting hit in return trying tap strafe(what would you call it) 24/7 doesn't feel fun

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I feel forced into weapon mastery 2nd because nothing else but maybe medic as a GF makes sense

hot peak
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even that Agi / Med totally better then GF med

wanton drift
rich coyote
jagged star