Bug: Strange death cutscene trigger | Rune Fencer Illyia | Nootbox Games | Page 1

deft dirge Jan 19, 2024, 11:59 PM

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Where: ||Solina fight||
Expected behavior: Normally upon death, you get roasted and sent back to before the start of the fight without actually dying
Actual behavior: Actually died, got sent back to last shrine, then the expected dialogue box appeared before getting teleported to the normal spot.
How to recreate: Unknown, only happened once out of many deaths. Probably somehow got hit inbetween cutscene trigger and cutscene occurring. Could be a problem later for other similar events.

subtle tinsel Jan 20, 2024, 12:01 AM

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oh dang!! I'll look into this as well. I can't believe she really did it

deft dirge Jan 20, 2024, 12:02 AM

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oop I did it too fast it ain't loaded

subtle tinsel Jan 20, 2024, 12:03 AM

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Do you remember if you were inside a projectile or one of the melee attacks, by chance?

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right as the fight ended?

deft dirge Jan 20, 2024, 12:08 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/einV0LF

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▶ Play video

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there we go

subtle tinsel Jan 20, 2024, 12:09 AM

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oh man right onto one of her swords

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||Solina: Heh! Went easy on her so she doesn't get hurt
Illyia: sliced directly in half
Solina: ah||

deft dirge Jan 20, 2024, 12:12 AM

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I think this is probably 1 out of 20 or 30 deaths, I've been doing it over and over again for fun

subtle tinsel Jan 20, 2024, 12:13 AM

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thanks for the ref, that helps a lot

kindred thicket Jan 21, 2024, 4:13 AM

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not sure if something like this could also kill you, it didn't kill me, but I feel like this was kinda close, similar to what is seen in gnolls gif

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so I wonder if it'd have killed me if that hitbox was a little more to the left

subtle tinsel Jan 21, 2024, 4:21 AM

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oh is that her sword swing projectile?

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hmm

kindred thicket Jan 21, 2024, 4:22 AM

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I think so, yes

deft dirge Jan 21, 2024, 4:22 AM

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oh yeah the sword swing projectiles and summoned swords stay on screen and freeze in place if you die while they are active, but I have at least overlapped with a summoned sword and it did not kill me

kindred thicket Jan 21, 2024, 4:23 AM

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I think it's some particle effects

subtle tinsel Jan 21, 2024, 4:23 AM

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ah, the hazard might be destroyed but the visual might remain for a sec

kindred thicket Jan 21, 2024, 4:25 AM

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I remember seeing the dust that is left from moving targets when you are getting one of the Royal Medallion shards, with an active animation on my death screen IllyiaHyperNod

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~~I fell way too many times the first time I was trying to get the one at the top~~
but yeah, those animations/sounds are not hidden on the death screen

kindred thicket Jan 22, 2024, 4:32 AM

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I uh... yeah... this is still happening Illyianervous

deft dirge Jan 22, 2024, 4:37 AM

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I think it happens specifically when ||her parry or dive attack knocks you back into the bouncy wall while the swords are still active||

subtle tinsel Jan 22, 2024, 4:41 AM

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!!! Ahah dang, I need to add some extra checks

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she is simply too powerful pensivebread

kindred thicket Jan 23, 2024, 7:16 AM

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Managed to record one of my runs where I got killed

subtle tinsel Jan 23, 2024, 7:18 AM

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yep yep, this tracks with the other deaths @ the bounce damage

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IllyiaNod

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thanks for the record

kindred thicket Jan 23, 2024, 7:21 AM

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Illyiathumbsup

cursive summit Feb 1, 2024, 11:25 PM

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uh-oh, did this get worse?

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(I didn't die from the additional 1-2 hits, but amidst all the death prevention shenanigans the game seems to brick itself requiring a hard restart)

subtle tinsel Feb 1, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Oh no, I think somebody else had this recently too

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Hm

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I'll have to investigate

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Was this the first death?

cursive summit Feb 1, 2024, 11:51 PM

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not the first one of this playthrough, but the first one in that fight

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 12:41 AM

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Gotcha

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 1:18 AM

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Dang, I've tried to reproduce it a bunch of times and I'm having no luck

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if it occurs for you again @cursive summit , can you DM me your player log files? There might be a clue in there

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Or actually there might be a clue in there already blob_thinking

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 1:20 AM

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it happened to me 2-3 more times so far, so I'll go fetch those

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 1:20 AM

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You'd be able to find them ->
%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\Nootbox Games\Rune Fencer Illyia KSBacker Preview

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oh dang

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that's so weird

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is it any particular hit that's killing you?

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It goes through the entire 'defeat' cutscene?

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 1:30 AM

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every time so far was caused by some projectile from the parry or ground slam attack, iirc; and yes (except for the first time when it happened, for some reason)

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 1:34 AM

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gotcha, hmm

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Not sure if they're connected to this issue or not, but it seems like your controller was reconnecting a ton of times for some reason

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I might have found a tiny unrelated null ref error in the fight that might be somehow causing the respawn to bug out, somehow though

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 1:49 AM

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subtle tinsel Not sure if they're connected to this issue or not, but it seems like your contr...

Yeah, I've seen that as well, no idea what's causing that. Windows itself definitely didn't notice those reconnects

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 1:50 AM

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weird! Could be a rewired issue, we'll look into that too

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and just to clarify:
Doing the fight -> Die to projectiles / Floor slam -> Cutscene -> Fade to black -> Fade back in -> Illyia has not respawned back into the scene, it's just Solina sitting there waiting

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 1:54 AM

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Either that, or Illyia respawns to the left off-screen (where she usually would be), immobile. (It did look like the camera tried to pan to the left for a bit just after the fade, only to then get stuck in place)

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oh, and the dialogue box during the cutscene also seemed to open twice

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 1:55 AM

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oh!! Now that's interesting

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so you had to click twice to go through them?

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 2:03 AM

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yep

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 2:04 AM

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that's a good hint- that might be the key to solving the issue

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thanks for the help! IllyiaHyperNod

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 2:31 AM

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Okay, I think I figured something out? This time I waited before clicking through each of the boxes (that way the first/lower one persisted until after the spawn), and spawned in normally (twice with a fade each time, but still). So it may (potentially) be caused by clicking through both boxes before the scene transition occurs

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 2:32 AM

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interesting

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so it's definitely the double cutscene that's probably causing it here

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 2:33 AM

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looks like it, yeah

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 2:33 AM

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in that case, I can do a quick build with a possible fix, I'll build it right now

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 2:55 AM

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cursive summit Yeah, I've seen that as well, no idea what's causing that. Windows itself defini...

And following up on this part, it looks like that was caused by Steam's input layer being active - at least I don't see any more log entries after changing that (along with the controller model no longer being shown as plain X360)

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(the Steam input shouldn't be active in the first place in games with native support, but apparently it was anyways)

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 2:55 AM

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oh, thanks for checking that out!

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I just pushed a potential fix as well

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should now be live on steam

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IllyiaNod

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whenever ya get the chance, let me know if it's still occuring on v8999f

cursive summit Feb 2, 2024, 4:06 AM

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Looks good now. Took a while to reproduce this time, but I think I got a proper bounce without any cutscene duplication

subtle tinsel Feb 2, 2024, 4:09 AM

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woo!

#Bug: Strange death cutscene trigger