NO BANDIT BEATER

[lavish timber]

Bandit beaters are too common among the Roblox platform, and since this is a demon slayer based game maybe make it so your crow gives you HARDER quests the higher rank your are. So if you were a Hashira you would get a harder quest e.g. "defeat this lower/higher rank demon".

[hollow spindle]

Bandit beater is a severely overused term that is used for anything remotely grindy, and often not used correctly

And ranks are going to be community based

It's an RPG style game, it'll probably be somewhat grindy, that doesn't make it a "bandit beater"

The term bandit beater is meant to refer to a game where there is only one way to progress and that is by doing the same one thing for a very long period of time, then moving on to a nearly identical mission, which very few popular roblox games function that way

GPO has several ways to level up, JJI has several methods to level up as well, and both of them also involve equipment farming, which is a normal feature

Clover Retribution also has a handful of methods to level up, alongside equipment grinding

Peroxide had several ways to get experience

Same with the Arcane/Vetex games

Yet they all get incorrectly labeled as bandit beaters because they are grindy

[swift scarab]

but jji is trash and a bandit beater

[hollow spindle]

It's trash, but it is not a bandit beater, it's just grindy

[swift scarab]

its a bandit beater

npcs run on artificial unintelligence

most of them barely do more damage than strong winds

[hollow spindle]

That's poor game design, not bandit beater, Neverwinter runs low intelligence enemies and is not a bandit beater

If you run the mission on hard difficulty for investigations/bosses, they do far more damage, they are pattern based bosses, much like larger MMORPG style games such as WoW

The missions are repetitive as it is rarity based loot farming, though they added ways to obtain them without getting them as drops, functionally a diverse pity system where you can even use other unrelated materials to trade in

[golden creek]

it is in fact a bandit beater 💔

[hollow spindle]

Ah yes, use urban dictionary, because that is totally a good source of finding the meaning of a term

[swift scarab]

in jji, your progression is quest, then rift. then more rifts. and then more rifts. so by your definition, wouldn’t jji be a bandit beater?

[hollow spindle]

you can also do investigations, bosses, and I believe pvp queuing gives exp

and you have multiple bosses and investigations as options

as well as a (despite being extremely meh) story to gives some big exp chunks

[swift scarab]

nobody cares about the story it’s basically another quest

[hollow spindle]

I'm not saying the game is good, just saying that people need to quit mislabeling everything as a bandit beater

[swift scarab]

even so, the early-mid game content is already bandit-beater-like enough to call it a bandit beater

[hollow spindle]

not really, you level up very quickly on it and even those quests have some variation

you unlock the first investigation after like 20 or 30 minutes

which is a pretty normal playtime to unlock a new category of content

[swift scarab]

still insanely boring and monotonous

[hollow spindle]

not saying it isn't, just saying it is not a bandit beater

everybody uses that label just because they want to dislike a game without saying they cannot sit down and grind on a game designed to be grindy

[swift scarab]

where does the official definition of “bandit beater” even come from, or is it up to personal interpretation

[hollow spindle]

it used to get used among rpg communities and fan bases for simulator games and those games which are not even grinding for materials, it's just pointless grind with no loot or pay-off

such as those old sword "rpg" games on roblox and shit

it was used for some steam games but I forget which ones

but a good example would be legend of the forsaken sword games from like 2015 on roblox

where you quit literally just kill things and buy a new sword with the gold, go back and keep killing

[swift scarab]

isn’t that almost every simulator

[hollow spindle]

yeah at this point, though the new simulators are also mixing in gacha

[swift scarab]

i think the term “bandit beater” is up to everyone’s own inference, though most people commonly use it to refer to poorly-designed grindy games

nevertheless jji is a completely asscheeks cashgrab

jji developers should retire

[hollow spindle]

they use it to refer to any grindy game at this point, which is dumb because they are just using it as an excuse not to grind

jji is definitely ass, the only good stuff would be movement and visuals

but people mislabeling every single RPG game as a bandit beater just because it is an RPG is dumb

[swift scarab]

the vfx isn’t even that fancy, movement animations suck

[hollow spindle]

I find the movement fun, and some of the visuals are nice

I like dodging sukunas attacks, just feels clean

[swift scarab]

pretty sure jji’s a cashgrab

catchy tutorial instantly followed by mediocre gameplay, very low-effort early to mid game, lots of p2w features

graaaaa i hate cashgrabs

[hollow spindle]

It is definitely a cash grab, but I won't resort to calling it a bandit beater, just a grindy cash grab

[swift scarab]

will there ever be a roblox game that’s genuinely fun

[hollow spindle]

probably not

most new games are not fun, even on steam, because game devs care more about people pleasing or making money than they do about making their game true to what it is

[golden creek]

sadly the greed for money is something roblox has been deeply rooted in, and it shows via its games

[lavish timber]

its a bandit beater but i does it differently but ye ur right its trash

[formal jasper]

Yes, because all of these game modes (other than PvP) are definitely not bandit beaters. No, you definitely don’t sit there and kill the same NPCs over and over again.

[hollow spindle]

actively multiple different enemies and sub missions within those

and the bosses get challenging if you fight them on increased difficulties as you are expected to

[formal jasper]

Are you a dev in this game?

[hollow spindle]

why?

[formal jasper]

Just wanted to know

Cause you have a little symbol next your name

[formal jasper]

Are you support such as you help moderate the server or support the development of the games

[hollow spindle]

I do a lot of stuff around here, as does the rest of support

I've helped with testing, but I mostly do staff stuff

[formal jasper]

Oh thank god you’re not a dev

[hollow spindle]

[formal jasper]

But also I never understood

Why you’d be bothered help a random game?

[hollow spindle]

I'm not saying jji is a good game, I'm saying it's not a bandit beater in the actual meaning of the phrase

[formal jasper]

It quite literally is. Name one over way of progressing other than killing npcs (which are almost all the same)

[hollow spindle]

Played rpg2 in 2020, enjoyed it, helped out in a faction server as staff, thought I'd keep helping, now I help because the staff and the owners are my friends

[formal jasper]

Oh that’s quite cool.

[hollow spindle]

That is one of the worst arguments for something to be a bandit beater

That would make every single MMORPG into a bandit beater

That'd make every single pve game into a bandit beater

[formal jasper]

How tho?

[hollow spindle]

Npcs are non-player characters

Just because you fight npcs doesn't mean it is a bandit beater

[formal jasper]

All you do is press J and kill npcs?

[hollow spindle]

And jji has variation in the enemies, their ai, their move kits

[formal jasper]

There is barely any noticeable variation in the enemies

[hollow spindle]

Npcs that can potentially kill you, that you often times have to combo when fighting, and if you do bosses/higher difficulty investigations, can two shot you easily

[formal jasper]

Woah so when it’s higher difficulty that means it’s not a bandit beater

[hollow spindle]

Actively a vast kit of moves the humanoid ones can use and four different types of open world boss curses which all have different kits and ways they handle knockback

[hollow spindle]

Woah somebody clearly still isn't reading what is said

[formal jasper]

You spam the same 5 moves and that’s it

[hollow spindle]

This whole discussion has been had in this channel, go back and read

[formal jasper]

No not really my eyes are really really blurry from getting 3 hours of sleep

I’ve been busy all day

[formal jasper]

Alr

[hollow spindle]

That's the same case with MMORPGs, same case with games like AA/AO, same case with basically any moveset based game

So I guess every game that has moves you can use is a bandit beater by that logic

[formal jasper]

No? I can blindly spam moves in jji and finish the quest. A game like deepwoken I have to actually use 2 brain cells

I just bunch press x and the npc is dead?

[hollow spindle]

Again, I'm not saying jujutsu inf is a good game, it's just not a bandit beater, that term is grossly misused for anything people wish to complain about

[hollow spindle]

A game like deep where you can also just spam 1-5 and every npc enemy dies

[formal jasper]

Not really.

[hollow spindle]

I do it all the time

That's how pve builds work

I use like 6 mantras in total and my m2 button and I can easily farm diluvian

Same situation as jji by your logic

[formal jasper]

I haven’t played both games much at all.

[hollow spindle]

Spam moves, enemies die

[formal jasper]

What is diluvian?

[hollow spindle]

Neverwinter is the same case, one of the largest MMORPGs of all time, you have about 5 attacks you usually use, spam those, enemies die

I guess that's a bandit beater as well now

[formal jasper]

There’s a complete difference between these games and jji tho?

Jji reminds of blox fruits

[hollow spindle]

I'm applying your argument as it was presented

[formal jasper]

Constantly just grinding and spamming x

[hollow spindle]

Jji has repetitiveness in exchange for rewards, you farm the missions you want to get the drops you want from them, each having different loot

Blox fruits is doing the same missions purely for exp

There is one of the big differences between a non-bandit beater and a bandit beater

Are you only getting exp, or are there multiple things you are able to get

Jji has options, with difficulty scaling, with loot variety and options you can choose to get loot to make your build better

With actual skill trees and relative build making

If you want to categorize it as a game type, it would be considered an MMORPG

[formal jasper]

If the game features advanced combat that requires skill and strategy then it’s not a bandit beaters. However jji doesn’t have that?

I don’t get why you’re so adamant about jji not being a bandit beater?

[hollow spindle]

Neverwinter doesn't take skill and strategy, WoW takes barely any

Deep takes neither

Just eyeballs

[formal jasper]

What is never winter?

What are most of these games?

[hollow spindle]

I'm making this argument against the term itself and it being horribly misused

[formal jasper]

I know wow

Barely

[hollow spindle]

Neverwinter is the largest f2p MMORPGs, or one of the largest

WoW is one of the largest games of all time

Both MMORPGs

Both by your description would be bandit beaters

Despite neither of them being bandit beaters

My point here is that everybody points fingers and calls things bandit beaters without even using the term right

[formal jasper]

I’ll be quite honest I have barely been reading a single thing you’ve wrote

[hollow spindle]

It is an easy scapegoat for an excuse to not actually explain the flaw of the game they wish to complain about

[hollow spindle]

I could tell, don't worry bud

You're just another ignorant person who puts out poor reasoning and doesn't even read responses

I've seen it time and time again

[formal jasper]

It is a bandit beater. And I don’t know why you’re so passionate about this

[buoyant plinth]

your_hot_sexy_bbg_sans_ You’ve Reached Level 4

[formal jasper]

Never before have I seen someone so passionate over Roblox game

[hollow spindle]

Not passionate, just trying to educate the poorly taught

[formal jasper]

You should really try and make a Roblox game

It really is a bandit beater mate

[hollow spindle]

Rather than using the wrong term, make an actual reasoning for what you want to say

A bandit beater is a game with 0 variety to the grind that has no other incentives to do the grind beyond leveling

[formal jasper]

I have the lack of advanced combat and skill and the fact it’s so overly repetitive

What are the incentives in jji?

[hollow spindle]

Overly repetitive is every game with a drop chance system, every game with a leveling system, even CoD is overly repetitive

Lethal Company is overly repetitive

[formal jasper]

Alright then what would you consider a bandit beater?

[hollow spindle]

Pretty much every non-single player story game is overly repetitive?

[hollow spindle]

Literally just stated what a bandit beater is, the way the term is meant to be used

[formal jasper]

Because I don’t think you know what a bandit beater is? You’re just over complicating it by so much

[hollow spindle]

Scroll up and read

[formal jasper]

CBeebies

Tf I didn’t mean to say that

[hollow spindle]

Once again, I'm not saying jji is a good game, I'm just saying that if you want to complain about a game, do it right rather than mislabeling and using the wrong term

[formal jasper]

I don’t even give 2 shits about this game I just find it funny how passionate you are about this for some odd reason?

[hollow spindle]

I like to teach and inform people, so if given the chance, I'll take it and try to help

[formal jasper]

How kind of you

[hollow spindle]

You were misinformed on how to use the term

So I tried to help

[formal jasper]

Yeah cool but it’s still a bandit beater.

You can’t change my mind

[hollow spindle]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink

[formal jasper]

Stop overcomplicating it so much 😭

[golden creek]

investigations and challenging in the same sentence 😭

[hollow spindle]

I've got a max level slot that struggles more with nightmare difficulty of the first investigation than it does with nightmare sukuna

Finger curse has reduced stun durations and harder moves to evade

And will two shot you

[golden creek]

this might be a skill issue icl 😭 Nightmare School is easy asl (as is literally every other map)

[hollow spindle]

Not saying it's hard, saying it's more difficult than nightmare sukuna

And only due to the damage output the finger curse has

[golden creek]

finger curse shouldnt be hitting you when ur max 💔

[hollow spindle]

Never said he was hitting me

Just said if you're unprepared, you're going to get melted, the bosses are pattern based, just like any other rpg game

[glossy sphinx]

I personally think with the sneeks we have seen the npcs are going to be kind of "DeepWoken" like in the sense they arent built on 2 brain cells and can actaully attack,parry and chase without getting stuck on basic blocks

But thats just my personal preferance

[glossy sphinx]

Compare Blox fruits to Jujutsu infinte. . boom! you have your answer

JJi is NOT a bandit beater the ai may be built slightly DUM but atleast you dont have to farm the same npcs for hours right? you get variation in what you fight and thier moves. THAT is not what you call a bandit beater. . .

[swift scarab]

even still

it’s a trash game

[glossy sphinx]

Agreed with that!

[hollow spindle]

trash, but mislabeled, people just use bandit beater to complain aboutu any game they dislike