🤬│debate

[vestal sable]

it is possible

But with sanemi

Sanemi could keep him all in dawn

And gyomei would clap him easily as he clapped demon's cheeks

[shut relic]

all im saying is

if we wanted rengoku to survive

we would atleast need rengoku and sanemi

or rengoku and gyomei

[vestal sable]

Gyomei is really we nees

Need*

Gyomei can kill akaza

[shut relic]

yes

[vestal sable]

With sanemi

[shut relic]

with?
n

[vestal sable]

would still be alive but

[shut relic]

nah alone

[vestal sable]

Akaza wont get killed

[shut relic]

gyomei can do it alone

[vestal sable]

Yeah

Gyomei solos

[shut relic]

tho akaza wont die

but

in a battle

he would deff win

[vestal sable]

Sanemi can keep akaza in dawn

[shut relic]

tbh if he remembers against that fight

then prob

[vestal sable]

So he can survive

Should have bringed mitsuri or shinobu there

then akaza wont touch them

Weak demon plot

Should have been better

[shut relic]

yeah but he would have definitley tried to kill tanjiro

so shinobu would have have foughten

[vestal sable]

And you know the plot armor!!!

[shut relic]

so akaza would maybe have knocked her out

[vestal sable]

Tanjiro has the ultimate plot armor

[teal vault]

Actually it might be different

W

[atomic prairie]

I don't think Gojo's infinity works during timestop

Since infinity slows anything getting close to him, during stopped time it would have no effect

[vestal sable]

So let me break the Jotaro vs dio fight

When they place the first barrage on SP and TW

Jotaro knew something was off and decided to head on another field to avoid Blood sucking dio sucking joseph's blood

They are jumping but due to Stop time Gravity was no problem for you can float in time stop

Just as when joseph revealed TW's special abilities

He knew TW can stop time

If you know once an ability to another you can counter it the more knowledge = more power

And Jotaro's punched was nerfed cause of the time stop world having that oxygen as fighting in underwater since thats how NASA trains Trainee's

Jotaro was able to adapt to time stop ability and knew how to counter him at the 3rd time stop

And in the roler scene, He managed to dig a whole in the road and time stopped as dio talked

And when dio was about to kick Jotaro the only reason he lost is because dio was kicking with his weak leg the left one

[south atlas]

Akaza would have destroyed them

[vestal sable]

Tho she wont touch woman

[junior herald]

She

[vestal sable]

mb

[twilit void]

Mitsuri >>>>>>>>>>>> kyojuro, muichiro, shinobu y obanai

💋

[lethal sandal]

She is only stronger than uzui and shinobu

[lunar brook]

Poison potato’s are better then normal one’s.

[vestal sable]

akaza can

[coral skiff]

Men

[lost light]

da hood sucks it's for poors without girlfriends

"change" my BIG mind

[stoic inlet]

bro flame breatjing is so good its better than water

water has combos and all but flame has more power

lol

[humble void]

thunder >>>>>

[winter lion]

Hantengu Art is the best(but 'll think about douma when his bda releases) change my mind

[vestal sable]

Hantengu good

[merry imp]

ask for codes = gay xd

[ionic thicket]

What are the codes

[merry imp]

XD

[atomic prairie]

Temari's better doe

[merry imp]

true

[vestal sable]

i hope doma art will have a icing system that makes use of m1s

like freezing combos

and low dmg

[merry imp]

yeah and the map are verry verry laggy rn but in ranked 1V1 it isnt

[stoic inlet]

bruh if your thunder you are like flame but flame is the same flame is way stronger

[merry imp]

wth

[winter lion]

pathetic it didn't change my mind at all😤

[inland mural]

Fix thunder breathing

Thunder breathing is so slow as well

[stoic inlet]

ikr flame is way better

[sly spruce]

Arrow art is the best

[stoic inlet]

rlly

[tardy lodge]

is kyogai bda better than akaza?

[tardy lodge]

arrow art is blockable

[stoic gulch]

Serpent breathing is op

[vestal sable]

andreuccio2021#7468 You’ve Reached Level 1

[sly spruce]

No

[stoic gulch]

/rank

[digital zodiac]

why would you ever think that

[fading sun]

what's the best demon art

[vestal sable]

Hecker#3874 You’ve Reached Level 4

[lost light]

akaza

[fading sun]

yay

[lost light]

don't trust my pov

[fading sun]

wdym

[lost light]

point of vision

[fading sun]

Why did u answered if u don't want ppl to trust u ?

[lost light]

bc you asked

[worn bone]

Because all answers for that question are opinions

[fading sun]

Sure but if somebody asks what is a cow and you are going to say that it can fly and will die if u give them a flower and know that it's not true why would u say tht

[lost light]

bc you asked

[worn bone]

^

[fading sun]

if somebody asks what is a cow and you are going to say that it can fly and will die if u give them a flower and know that it's not true why would u say tht even if he asked u don't answer if u know what u say is not true (even if in that case it was true u understood)

[lost light]

bc it's my opinion

[fading sun]

Ok ig

[lost light]

and i gotta let you know something until you find the real answer

[fading sun]

Okay what is it ? Is it the fact that my mother threw my brain out the window when i as born cuz i already kno that

[atomic prairie]

yes

[tardy lodge]

okay ty

[wet orchid]

bcos it's true

[vestal sable]

Stand personality are based on your personality

or hidden personality

Jotaro is calm but Star platinum is Raging as he barrages

Dio is a hypocrite and looks down at others and kills people but The world is calm as water

Pucci is talkative at things and yet made in heaven is silent

[queen elbow]

who would win gyomei or tokito?

[vestal sable]

Totally not saying amything

Fun facts about made in heaven that you didnt ask or care

Made in heaven looks like he is riding a horse which means he is fast at running

All other stands are fast but not riding a horse

Which means made in heaven is running so fast like the horse the universe or so wind in real life horse

It goes so fast

For made in heaven you feel universe accelerating

But in real life horses you feel wind accelerating

So its really cool to reference a horse

[vestal sable]

And with its accleration you can make the universe reset since its traveling through time like litrally as in to reset the universe

To avoid the effects of acceleration go in a black hole and you will feel Friction

Since the effects are Stars dying out and New stars born and die out you feel it like its waves of water

[fierce crescent]

Buff mice Or giyuu

[cunning tinsel]

Gyomei if tokito was the same age then tokito

[wet orchid]

The Batman 2022 > TDK and NWH

[late hare]

L take

Big L

The dark Knight trilogy>>>>>>>>> the bitchman

[gilded sky]

I’d just like to say yoriichi would be able to smack up kokushibo giyu and gyomei not all at the same time tho

Anything to say about my thoughts

[vestal sable]

He would

[gilded sky]

Yes

[vestal sable]

||Muzan is more faster then all of them and yoriichi he did it in 8 seconds||

How can he not do it sametime?

[gilded sky]

He can

[vestal sable]

You dont know yoriichi's potential

||Yoriichi sliced up koku head before he can even react||

You get the point

[gilded sky]

When he was 94

Btw

[vestal sable]

Exactly

[gilded sky]

Nah

[vestal sable]

How can he not slice up all of them

[gilded sky]

Cause he never lost skill

So his age don’t rlly matter

[vestal sable]

i meant how can he not slice up koku giyu and gyomei same time

[gilded sky]

Cause he still had like prime skill

[vestal sable]

Koku has more reaction speed then gyomei and giyuu combined

Muzan has even more speed and reaction time then both of them

[gilded sky]

I dare say

[vestal sable]

yoriichi_tsugikuni#0034 You’ve Reached Level 1

And he wiped him so fast?

[gilded sky]

That yoriichi can beat tanjiro muzan and ko ku with doma and akaza

Cause in a one on one

He will take a dub

[vestal sable]

and he doesnt even need to use Sun for koku and douma

[gilded sky]

Especially muzan at sunrise

Cause if they fought the muzan yoriichi did

They would have died

And that muzan aged 9000 year in a couple hours witch weakened him

[vestal sable]

Basically

[gilded sky]

However yoriichi loses to dtk

Cause he cant die to sun

Nor nichirin

I mean

[vestal sable]

But he can slow his regen

[gilded sky]

Yeah

But

[vestal sable]

Which means yoriichi can kill dtk

[gilded sky]

Yeah

But keep in mind

If dtk can keep his range

He might be able to win

But that’s a 0000000000000.00000.00000.1% chance

Just due to yoriichis speed

I once saw someone say giyu beats all pillars and all cause he said giyu was on par with dtk like what

[vestal sable]

That was mindless dkt

[vestal sable]

saitama>goku

[teal vault]

goku>saitama

[vestal sable]

in his dreams

[harsh schooner]

who do yall think is the fastest in the demon slayer corps (other than yoriichi)

[vestal sable]

tanjirou

tanjiro dad

[harsh schooner]

ima have to say the snake pillar

[vestal sable]

wath che fuck

what*

the*

[harsh schooner]

if yu havent read da manga it wont make sense why

[vestal sable]

i readed

Koku slams

[teal vault]

Nah

[harsh schooner]

||the snake pillar was the only demon slayer to compete with muzans speed||

[vestal sable]

Koku slams mid diff

ramo#8682 You’ve Reached Level 5

[harsh schooner]

Ya cus its koku the upper moon 1

dudes the freakin brother of the strongest slayer ever

but im not talking bout strenght

just purely speed

[vestal sable]

before

[vestal sable]

its shinobu or tengen

[vestal sable]

nope

[vestal sable]

if shinobu and tengen fought against muzan they would compete with muzans speed too

[harsh schooner]

shinobu nor tengen had a slayer mark which already boosts your speed, so snake pillar takes it. Plus he was fighting with zenitsu and tanjiro who are already faster then those 2.

only guy who was on that battlefield who kept up with muzan :/

[south atlas]

Why would you choose some of the weakest hashira

[odd anvil]

ayo im a demon and whenever i click x it always says "You need to be low health to use this skill". But even i am near death i can't use the ablity

[south atlas]

What bda do u have

[odd anvil]

what is that

bda

if u mean level i am lev 100

and i can't figure out were to go to level myself up even more. I am at the village were tanjiro and nezuko are

but i ask around and people say that there is another place but they never show

[vestal sable]

blood demon art

[odd anvil]

Akaza

[vestal sable]

The Legendary Giga Nigga 9000#2022 You’ve Reached Level 1

[odd anvil]

i look at the map on trello and i still couldn't find the next training area

[errant sierra]

butter fly estate

go to rice field

actually is pretty complicated]

just try

[south atlas]

U have to do pvp

Aka game modes

That’s how u level up

And x is ur last skill so u can’t use it because ur too low of a level

[stoic inlet]

rengoku is the second strongest hasira

[vestal sable]

rengoku:dies to a dumbass 15 yeAR OLD

[stoic inlet]

bru

[atomic prairie]

bro 💀

[stoic inlet]

replyed right now lol

[atomic prairie]

He's 5th or so

[stoic inlet]

not rengoky is 7th

[atomic prairie]

Sure enough he's stronger than mitsuri

[vestal sable]

1. gyomei
2. sanemi
3. iguro
4. giyuu
5. muichiro
6. shinobu
7. rengoku
8. mitsuri
9. tengen

[gloomy barn]

whats better snake or flower

[stark schooner]

i think snake is better

[south atlas]

Giyu is not stronger than

[gloomy barn]

What’s better for pvp drum or temari

[twin linden]

How do you unlock 2nd skill on mobile if you can’t exercise

[plain crane]

tengen is the more strong than shinobu

Bruh

u really seen demon slayer ?

when tengen fight against gyutaro he was always keeping tanjiro alive

he fighted with a heavy disadvantages

Bruh

[plain crane]

Bruh

u dont need to train for any move

[tardy lodge]

what is better: arrow or kyogai bda?

[zinc flint]

Kygia

Also

[tardy lodge]

you meant kyogai?

[zinc flint]

Is there a developer here

And yes

Oop

I need to talk to one

[stark schooner]

but he must lose his hand

[solemn ore]

Bro what💀

[harsh schooner]

i agree with your top 3

[solemn ore]

I’m not even gonna try to debate

[harsh schooner]

but giyuu and shinobu are weaker then rengoku and muichiro

[solemn ore]

Bro most def uses trashy muzan feats

[harsh schooner]

wdym

[solemn ore]

That what the majority of people do

[vestal sable]

Zer#0001 You’ve Reached Level 2

[harsh schooner]

i mean wdym by muzan feats

like things during the muzan fight?

[solemn ore]

Ye

[harsh schooner]

oooh

[solemn ore]

People even put obanai above gyomei with them sometimes

💀

[harsh schooner]

.

well thats not fair

if we talking overall strength

thats not correct

only thing obanai did in that fight that made him useful was his insane speed

[wet apex]

1. Gyomei 2.sanemi 3.iguro 4. Muichiro 5.giyuu 6. Rengoku 7.mitsuri 8. Tengen uzui 9. Shinobu there all strong in there own rights

[vestal sable]

you can not a power list about hashiras

all of them have different and usefull abilities

alanciafana#2747 You’ve Reached Level 1

[thick pendant]

1. gyomei

2. sanemi

3.obanai

4.mitsuri

5.muichiro

6.giyu

7.rengoku

8.tengen or shinobu

[atomic prairie]

I feel like Giyu is stronger than Rengoku since he has both a slayer mark AND the Dead Calm form

[round forge]

Ichigo>naruto

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-bleach-anime-bleach2022-shen-ichigo-gif-24179502

[ionic thicket]

facts

[remote drift]

Muichiro>obanai

[vestal sable]

well im a mug blooded american you hear?

[harsh schooner]

Well think about it, when giyu fought akaza he nearly died and had the help of a tanjiro with see through world. This same giyu who nearly died had both slayer mark and dead calm

While rengoku who didn't have slayer mark, still nearly beat akaza on his own

[atomic prairie]

Akaza pretty much toyed with Rengoku, but when he caught Akaza off guard with 9th form, that's when Akaza had to take him seriously. If Akaza would've been serious since the start Rengoku would've been dead

so idk

[harsh schooner]

True akaza was trying to recruit him mid battle

I'd say giyuu with slayer mark is a bit ahead of rengoku

[dusky quartz]

Petition to let us use the white name insult again

[harsh schooner]

o_O

[sweet hare]

I bought the nezuko companion game pass and it just doesn't show up how do I use it?????

Can someone help me ??

[dusky quartz]

Why the fuck are you saying this in debate

[sweet hare]

I don't know where to say this, I just wanted to ask why.

[sweet hare]

.-.

[vestal sable]

Does Gyomei alone beat Douma

With slayer mark and transparent world btw

[humble void]

possibly

[harsh schooner]

i can see him winning

with major difficulty

didnt douma lose to shinobu and her student?

[vestal sable]

Shinobu had tons of heavy poison on her body the posion affected him by ALOT

Thats because douma was already heavily poisoned

And both kanao and inosuke were there

and inosuke was there to help too

If shinobu didn't fill her body with poison both inosuke and kanao would have died

yep probably

[harsh schooner]

aah i forgot that part

hmm so if its gyomei

[vestal sable]

But i can see gyomei actually winning tho

High diff tho

[harsh schooner]

he might win but it'll cost him a arm or 2

[vestal sable]

I take as far as he would win but at the cost of dying

He did beat Kokushibo with the help of sanemi and that gunner dude

[harsh schooner]

hmm

thing is he had a LOT

of help

sanemi with slayer mark

muichori with slayer mark and red blade

[vestal sable]

Yeah but kokushibo is extremely strong

probably 10x stronger than douma

[harsh schooner]

true

so ya gyomei prob wins high dif like you said

[vestal sable]

yep

I wonder how strong yoriichi would be if he didn't have slayer mark

if kokushibo didnt give up

😂

all died

Tanjiro and giyuu if akaza didn't get his memories back 💀

[harsh schooner]

end of show

right there gg end credits and all

[errant sierra]

what is the weakest to strongest hashira?

[pastel sparrow]

1.Gyomei
2.Sanemi
3.Obanai
4.Muichiro
5.Giyuu
6.Rengoku
7.mitsuri
8.shinobu
9.Tengen

[harsh schooner]

perfect list

[errant sierra]

much agree

[stoic inlet]

tengen 8 shinobu 9 rengoku 7 and giyu 3

[stoic inlet]

and giyu is weaker than rengoku lol

[harsh schooner]

A bit stronger

Just cus he has a slayer mark and a red blade

[stoic inlet]

yeh'

ok dont reply

to this

[sly iris]

Water needs buff

No debate

[harsh schooner]

Water is fine, no debate

[untold path]

I'm sorry but giyuu clap rengoku

[autumn spoke]

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Prison Realm#6227

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[late hare]

Go to bots

Retard

[teal vault]

Lmfao

[vestal sable]

Prison Realm#6227 has been warned

Reason: bots in wrong channel

Prison Realm#6227 has been banned

Reason: Too many infractions

[unban]

[tame rampart]

Oh

So silly

[late hare]

Rip bozo

[gloomy barn]

What’s better for pvp temari or drum

[harsh schooner]

temari

[harsh schooner]

how

giyuu nearly got killed by akaza with help

and didnt do much in the fight

rengoku nearly solo'd akaza by himself :/

[atomic prairie]

The only reason they won is because Shinobu filled her body with poison

We didn't even get to see Doma's full power

So no, Gyomei doesn't solo Doma

[harsh schooner]

idk because gyomei still fought the upper moon 1

who is supposed to be a whole nother lvl to douma

so i can see him soloing but nearly dying

we already have seen pillars solo upper moons

like rengoku nearly soloing akaza

so i can see gyomei doing the same

[atomic prairie]

bro what

[harsh schooner]

rengoku nearly beat akaza on his own

with no slayer mark or red blade or see through world

so i can see gyomei with see through world, red blade, and slayer mark beating douma

[simple token]

I'm pretty sure akaza wasn't trying against rengoku

[sturdy seal]

Yeah Akaza was trying to convince him to become a Kizuki

[harsh schooner]

still nearly killed an upper moon

and after akaza started getting serious rengoku was able to nearly end him

i dont see why gyomei whos miles stronger woudnt kil douma

[simple token]

Rengoku didn't almost kill him, the sun almost did

[harsh schooner]

his blade was nearly through his neck

[vestal sable]

Still would kill him

its both

[harsh schooner]

true

still counts as a kill :/

[simple token]

It doesn't count as a kill if he didn't kill him...

[harsh schooner]

im saying if he died to the sun

[vestal sable]

J Tag#5991 You’ve Reached Level 9

[harsh schooner]

it would still be a kill

so the fact that rengoku made an upper moon 3 run

i dont see why gyomei would lose to douma

[spring sun]

Douma was poisoned so we couldn’t see his full strength, also he would die from the frozen lung thing

[simple token]

Rengoku didn't make him run, he was realizing the sun was coming up, he even said that to tanjiro while tanjiro was screaming after he killed rengoku

[harsh schooner]

so he did run

cus either way if he had stayed he would have died

[vestal sable]

they are the weakest hashiras overall but also they are the fastest hashiras

sooshi#1385 You’ve Reached Level 1

[vestal sable]

nope shinobu had her slayer mark during the fight against douma and douma added that she was the fastest hashira heve seen so shinobu wins it and tengen who didnt have a slayer mark proved his speed against gyutaro i bet he wouldnt lose much of his speed even if he had red blade

[vestal sable]

i think that tanjiro isnt fast as them but i am not sure about zenitsu because his breathing style mainly focuses on speed. but you asked who is the fastest hashira so its shinobu or tengen

oops seems like i was wrong too but shinobu is still faster than obanai

according to the official fanbook the ranking is 1)tengen 2)shinazugawa 3)gyomei 4)shinobu 5)rengoku 6)giyuu 7)obanai 8)muichiro 9)kanroji

fanbook also states that shinobu is so fast and she runs lightly like a butterfly however she have less stamina than others

its also stated that obanai is that lower in tge list because of his serpentive running style (lol) and he couldve ranked higher if he went straight

[harsh schooner]

reason i put the snake pillar ahead

is purely because of the feat of keeping up with muzan

who is the fastest in the entire show, other than yoirichi

[simple token]

Yea he did run but him running had nothing to do with rengoku, it's fair to say rengoku stalled him enough for the sun to almost come up but he's not close to akaza in strength

[harsh schooner]

i see your point

[vestal sable]

its the official fanbook not just my opinions

[harsh schooner]

I still can see gyomei winning against douma

but its really a 40/60 chance

since we dont know what douma can do at full power

[vestal sable]

nope he cant no hashira can beat any of the top 3 upper moons they dont even stand a chance

[vestal sable]

as he is the uppermoon 2 he is strong with his full potential ofc

[harsh schooner]

well

the thing is

in the show each one gave up

other than douma who was straight up killed

so idrk in this situation

[vestal sable]

he didnt exept dying becuz of shinobus poison also he wasnt even fighting with his full potential i think he didnt even care about the fight

sooshi#1385 You’ve Reached Level 2

[simple token]

Yea, I just see alot of people overestimating rengoku and saying he's upper moon level which is crazy

[vestal sable]

and he is an uppermoon 2 for a reason

[harsh schooner]

well outside of the uppermoon 3 and up

but ya he isnt as strong as any of them

[vestal sable]

Isn't this from the fanbook that says what hashira is the fastest in a race?

It does not say in combat speed it only says in a race

[crimson cairn]

Pilar yucateco>>>>Muzan

[atomic prairie]

Akaza wasn't even fighting him 💀

[atomic prairie]

Yes dude. Can't you see the point? These dudes regenerated their heads. Akaza wouldn't have had another slash from Tanjiro if he kept fighting.

[vestal sable]

Tanjiro and giyuu would be dead if akaza didn't recover his memories

Same thing with kokushibo

[atomic prairie]

So would be Sanemi and Gyomei

[vestal sable]

but we werent talking about combat speed we were talking about the fastest hashira like just fastness and its the same as the race fastness

[vestal sable]

yep

[vestal sable]

Oh alright thought you were talking about combat speed

Mb

[atomic prairie]

I mean, yeah Gyomei is both unbelievably strong and fast even though he uses that weapon of his, but even Akaza would be faster than his attacks

+His compass needle would help a lot too

[vestal sable]

yeah thats right as no hashira can beat any of the top3 uppermoon by themselves

[harsh schooner]

i forgot that part mb

for some reason i forgot how most of them just gave up

so ya none of them can solo any of them :/

[atomic prairie]

ye

[harsh schooner]

combat speed tengen or the snake pillar takes it

[subtle flicker]

BAAHAGAHHAHAHAHAHHAH

Lmao

shinobu has the mark ? SINCE WHEN 💀💀💀

[subtle flicker]

Gyomei has the fastest coma

Combat speed.

[latent needle]

Help

[subtle flicker]

What

[latent needle]

My game broke

[subtle flicker]

Sucks

[subtle flicker]

Gyomei can.

[latent needle]

I couldn't learn 2nd move when I reset breathing and it took away my nichirin

It's was black

[subtle flicker]

Muichiro and iguro could beat akaza because of red blade

and sanemi is beating akaza if theyre in the outside world

[vestal sable]

sry it was a misunderstanding i did read the manga a long while ago so i dont remember everything and i saw some fanarts and thought they were real

[subtle flicker]

Ifs fine dw

[vestal sable]

ifw.gyomei._#6675 You’ve Reached Level 4

[vestal sable]

no they cant solo any of the top 3 upper moons

[subtle flicker]

They can tho

its not an opinion its a fact

akaza's weakness is red blade

he gets destroyed by every hashira that unlocked a red blade by themselve even in base 💀

And gyomei plays basketball with akaza

[vestal sable]

bro he can litteraly sense tye battle spirit so they dont stand a chance

[harsh schooner]

but akaza got his head chopped off

[subtle flicker]

He has to activate it

[harsh schooner]

and still was living

[vestal sable]

yep

[harsh schooner]

so even if he were to get his head slaughtered

[vestal sable]

and he can regenerate his head

[subtle flicker]

if akaza fights a fighter too fast hes gonna lose

[harsh schooner]

he still was living

[subtle flicker]

because he will get blitz

[harsh schooner]

no what im saying is he LITERALLY CANT DIE

[subtle flicker]

he can tho

[harsh schooner]

unless he chooses to

[vestal sable]

no he wont because he can sense battle spirit

[subtle flicker]

no he can die

[harsh schooner]

ok then how did he die

in the show

[subtle flicker]

He needs to activate it

[subtle flicker]

Killed himselve

[harsh schooner]

exactly...

[vestal sable]

ok so he would activate it

[subtle flicker]

That doesnt probe anything

[vestal sable]

yes it does

[harsh schooner]

tell me how he would die then

[subtle flicker]

He wont activate it if he gets blitz

[harsh schooner]

or give me an example

or theory of how he would die

[subtle flicker]

He can die by cell destruction or by the sun

[harsh schooner]

i mean like by just a slayer

no outside things

[subtle flicker]

Every demon can die by cell destructuon

[harsh schooner]

like day time or muzan cell stuff

[subtle flicker]

Not juxan neceserslly

[vestal sable]

then only yoriichi can kill him?

[subtle flicker]

if you destroy all of his cells he dies

[harsh schooner]

idk how this whole headless thing works

[subtle flicker]

Yoriichi destroys the cells of akaza

[harsh schooner]

kinda a plot hole of the show

[subtle flicker]

thats the only way yoriichi wouldve beat muzan

by destroying his cells

[harsh schooner]

but yoriichi never killed muzan

he kinda just let him go

[subtle flicker]

He was about to

wasnt he !

?

[harsh schooner]

i really dont know im confused now

cus the whole headless thing

[subtle flicker]

Lol

It was said that if you destroy the cells of a demon they die

[vestal sable]

Also even the breathing technique that has the strongest defense couldnt block akazas attacks

[subtle flicker]

And ?

[harsh schooner]

dead calm didnt evee do anything to akaza

[vestal sable]

yep but weve only seen yoriichi destroying the cells

[subtle flicker]

It couldnt block the strongest attack of akaza ?

[harsh schooner]

no

or i dont recall

[subtle flicker]

Then everyone can tf ?

[vestal sable]

without cutting the head

[harsh schooner]

yoriichi different bruh

[vestal sable]

cuz akaza can regenerate himself

[harsh schooner]

that means everyone got the potential to do it

[subtle flicker]

He cant quickly from red blade

so that makes him below every red blade user

Akaza regens 30 times per fight maybe even more

[harsh schooner]

hm

but 1 slayer is gonna hit him that many times?

[subtle flicker]

with a red blade after the first strike akaza will have 1/4 weapons down

so less speed

[subtle flicker]

A hashira can easily cut off akazas head

[harsh schooner]

rengoku was a hashira

so was giyu

[subtle flicker]

body part i mean

[harsh schooner]

oh

[vestal sable]

no hashira can beat top 3 upper moon its a fact

[subtle flicker]

i meant body part

[subtle flicker]

Since when

[vestal sable]

they cant solo any of the top 3

[harsh schooner]

ok then i can kinda see that

i can see him dmging him

but idk about winning unless akaza gives up

[vestal sable]

yeah

[harsh schooner]

now if we include the daytime stuff

[subtle flicker]

Gyomei beats 2-6 sanemi 3-6 (if in the outside world) iguro and muichiro 3-6

[harsh schooner]

then ya i can see a slayer winning that

[vestal sable]

yeah obv

sooshi#1385 You’ve Reached Level 3

[subtle flicker]

There is 3 needs to needs to beat akaza

They are simple and they make sense

[vestal sable]

i think theres only 2 needs and that is sunlight and being able to destroying the cells without cutting the head

[subtle flicker]

1 cut akaza with a red blade he wont regen and will be weaker and will have less weapons since he counts on regeneration to fight

[vestal sable]

yeah that makes sense too

[harsh schooner]

so red blade majorly slows demons regen?

[vestal sable]

ig

[subtle flicker]

2 speed blitzing if you hit him at an unbelievable speed he wont react and you will simply destroy his cells before he cam adapt his speed (just like when giyuu outsped akaza when he just unlocked the mark akaza wasnt as fast as giyu so he got outsped but when he activated the compass he matched giyus speed

[vestal sable]

yeah

[subtle flicker]

Yes

[vestal sable]

weve seen it during the fight against kokushibo

[subtle flicker]

They regen SLOW AS HELL “said by hantengu”

Kokushiboo couldnt regen at all

[vestal sable]

so red blades are op af

[subtle flicker]

but imo its because he was weakend because of the mark

[subtle flicker]

duh 💀

only 5 people have it

gyomei, yoriichi, obanai, muichirou, tanjirou

they all got it by themselves

[vestal sable]

did tanjiro get it

[subtle flicker]

sanemi and giyu got it together

[vestal sable]

i cant remember him getting it

[frigid fulcrum]

enmu is strongest demon

[vestal sable]

Crom#9298 You’ve Reached Level 1

[subtle flicker]

tanjiro got it against muzan

[vestal sable]

oh

[vestal sable]

lmao

[subtle flicker]

By himself he got it against muzan

but he used it with nezuko twice

once against rui

[vestal sable]

Sorry i don't remember akaza using compass needle as soon as giyuu got the mark

[subtle flicker]

once against hantegu

[vestal sable]

Akaza adapted to his speed

It was just that

[vestal sable]

eight i tottally forgot about that

[subtle flicker]

I dont have pic perms

[frigid fulcrum]

what' this about

rengoku vs giyuu?

[subtle flicker]

When he was cutting the head and there was blood on the sword

[vestal sable]

What you guys smoking?

I just came

[frigid fulcrum]

same

[vestal sable]

So idk what they are talking

[subtle flicker]

Idk but im smoking packs 💀

[vestal sable]

Same terms

[subtle flicker]

2v1 but its not a debate

its a discussion

[frigid fulcrum]

oh different type of came

[vestal sable]

also murata is the strongest demon slayer facts

You must be joking

[subtle flicker]

Its only logical.

[frigid fulcrum]

akaza should teach enmu martial arts

then hes strongest demon

[subtle flicker]

Compass makes you adapt to opponents speed

how can akaza get outspeed and then matches someones speed ?

he used compass

[vestal sable]

Compass doesnt let you adapt to only speed

[subtle flicker]

I never said only speed

[vestal sable]

Alright just checked

[vestal sable]

yeah enmu is the strong ofc but i think the hand demon is stronger

[subtle flicker]

i said it makes you adapt to speed

[vestal sable]

you dont get the point compass only detects their battle spirit

it doesnt adapt

Akaza didn't use compass needle as soon as giyuu got the slayer mark

He just adapted to his speed

[frigid fulcrum]

enmu could have possibly gotten stronger than akaza

[vestal sable]

when your Battle spirit is detected he can predict your next attack

Akaza is already faster than rengoku or giyuu

[vestal sable]

yeah

But compass needle isnt for speed or adaptability

Its their battle spirit

[subtle flicker]

Mmm it doesnt change anything

[vestal sable]

like how you need to use red crimson blade to slow the demons regen

[subtle flicker]

that still means that akaza cant INSTANTLY adapt someone's speed

[vestal sable]

Akaza needs to use his compass needle to detect and predict their battle spirit

[subtle flicker]

he needs to do sum to adapt

[vestal sable]

He is already faster infact

[subtle flicker]

Just detect

[vestal sable]

why do you think he isnt upper moon 3?

[subtle flicker]

No he got outspeed by giyu

[frigid fulcrum]

When tf ?

[subtle flicker]

but then he matched his speed

[vestal sable]

he needs just like 2 seconds

[subtle flicker]

Less

WAYYYYY LESS

[vestal sable]

Read it again how did akaza almost killed giyuu?

[subtle flicker]

they travel faster than lightning seconds are too much

[subtle flicker]

?

[frigid fulcrum]

What are you arguing rn

[vestal sable]

Not light sound

[subtle flicker]

im not wrong

[subtle flicker]

Liht ing

lIghtning ≠ liht

[vestal sable]

Sound is slower than lightning

[subtle flicker]

Yes

they are faster than sound lol.

[vestal sable]

not too much of light

[subtle flicker]

tanjirou season one was faster than sound

[vestal sable]

If you are saying they are fast as lightning

[vestal sable]

i dont think so

[subtle flicker]

In his 3rd mission he was

kyogai's attack are sound attacks

and he was dodging the,

[vestal sable]

Then threy can instantly kill akaza if im not wrong?

[subtle flicker]

If they are completely faster yes

but they have ONE try

if they miss akaza will adapt

[vestal sable]

no i dont think so then he wpuldnt be an upper moon e

they are not faster than light

3*

Hashira's can break the sound barrier

[subtle flicker]

yoriichi blitz akaza, gyomei too

[vestal sable]

ifw.gyomei._#6675 You’ve Reached Level 5

[subtle flicker]

They are faster mayb

[vestal sable]

Since light is faster yoriichi is the only one who can run faster

[subtle flicker]

mayn☠️

YO

OMG

HASHIRAS AND UPPERMOONS ARE faster than lightings its not hard

[vestal sable]

i think you are overrating gyomei

[subtle flicker]

Lightning < Light in speed

[subtle flicker]

No i just know how to scale

[vestal sable]

Rlly?

he is strong but not as strong as beating the top 3 upper moons

You think they are faster than light

[subtle flicker]

he showed relativity with kokushiboo in his second form

thats enouh 💀💀

[vestal sable]

use real life logic tho

[subtle flicker]

What

[vestal sable]

light can spin around earth 7 times in 1 second

💀

[subtle flicker]

Yes ?

[vestal sable]

How can they be so fast

[subtle flicker]

lightning is slower than light

Lol

[vestal sable]

they beat kokushibo with 4 demon slayers and 3 of them were hashiras so

Still the same

Lightning is slow in seconds

[vestal sable]

yeah

Comparable to light

they cant be faster than lightning

[subtle flicker]

Most of the fight was 1v1s

[vestal sable]

yeah

[subtle flicker]

and the 4v1 was for ONE OUT OF 11 CHAPTERS

[vestal sable]

You can take the manga perspective

cant*

[vestal sable]

but gyomei wouldnt be able to solo him anyways

[subtle flicker]

Not even

[vestal sable]

The manga thinks they are traveling at lightning speed

[subtle flicker]

Ik ?

i mean he could

[vestal sable]

But they are just the same as sound speed

[vestal sable]

neither upper moon 2 or 3

[subtle flicker]

full power gyomei > base form kokushiboo

[vestal sable]

no

What

Not at all

[subtle flicker]

Yes

lol

[vestal sable]

Explain

yeah

Gyomei literally had a slayer mark and was struggling against kokushibo

No gyomei can stand a chance but not for long

[vestal sable]

thats true

[subtle flicker]

Gyomei showed relativity with second form of kokushiboo

and that wasnt evem his full power

in their seond 1v1

[vestal sable]

if it wasnt for genya and muichirou and sanemi gyomei would have been clapped to cheeks

[vestal sable]

it was

[vestal sable]

yep

cuz they slowed and disracted kokushibo

Yeah

[subtle flicker]

It was t gyomei didnt have his red blade and was t using stw

[vestal sable]

At this point you are quite overrating gyomei

[subtle flicker]

Im not

[vestal sable]

and with the help of genya's special bda

tgen sanemi and gyomei was focused on attacking

[subtle flicker]

full power koku beats gyomei 💀💀

[vestal sable]

also base form can

[subtle flicker]

With a minimum of effort

[vestal sable]

Koku beats him in any form

Koku can just abuse his Sword range

[subtle flicker]

No he cant

[vestal sable]

Yes he can bruh

[subtle flicker]

base form koku was struggling with gyomei

[vestal sable]

there was anemi too

He wasn't wth

[subtle flicker]

they were on equal match but koku wouldve won because lf stamina

[vestal sable]

Both gyomei and sanemi were keeping up with kokushibo

he wasnt even struggling that much against top 2 hashiras

sooshi#1385 You’ve Reached Level 4

[subtle flicker]

He was he said that gyomei was unpredictable

[vestal sable]

That doesn't mean he was struggling wth

[subtle flicker]

and he wasnt able to 100% dodge his attacks

[vestal sable]

Mostly cause he was not taking the fight seriously

[vestal sable]

yes but he still keep up with him

[subtle flicker]

You just proved my point

that gyomei was relative with base koku

[vestal sable]

Kokushibo was chilled as hell while fighting gyomei

[subtle flicker]

He was

[vestal sable]

no kokushibo still keep up with him

i meant

Not that much

[subtle flicker]

And ?

s his character

thats *

[vestal sable]

Just remind koku of yoriichi then Strength boost

[subtle flicker]

Kokushiboo solos most of the hashira 6v1 💀

Im not saying gyomei is stronger than koku

im saying the strongest form of gyomei would beat the weakest form of koku

[vestal sable]

no

Koku can still beat the strongest form of gyomei

[subtle flicker]

Yes

in his second and third form

he beats gyomei

Full power

[vestal sable]

He wasnt using much forms

[subtle flicker]

3 forms

base , long sword , final form

[vestal sable]

Wdym "and" saying that he was unpredictable doesn't mean he was struggling

Base koku can clap gyomei even if in the strongest form

That literally means he's saying a quality of him

[subtle flicker]

Your no longer in this debate you think akaza beats gyomei 😭

[vestal sable]

Koku has centuries of fighting experience

I remind you that kokushibo respects and says complements to his opponents

[subtle flicker]

Wanna debate in private

[vestal sable]

i think he can

We are in a debate channel

[subtle flicker]

i cant keep up with 3 person messaging me

[vestal sable]

Alright then i will stop

[subtle flicker]

No

I wanna gave you my points so that you can understand

[vestal sable]

yeah i will stop too i will go to sleep cuz its literally 2 am here

[subtle flicker]

its a discussion

Not a battle

[subtle flicker]

Yea no

[vestal sable]

He has alot of fighting experience

[subtle flicker]

Also lighting speed is completely slower than light speed

[vestal sable]

he can get use to gyomei in matter of minutes if he takes it seriously

[subtle flicker]

the flash of a lightning is light speed but the movement of a lightning isnt

[vestal sable]

But the appreance of it

[subtle flicker]

He took the fight seriously the moment he fought gyomei

[vestal sable]

Rlly?

[subtle flicker]

and he said that he was trying against sanemi

if he was trying not at (max ofc) against sanemi

[vestal sable]

Read it based on koku

[subtle flicker]

what wouldve he done with gyomei

gyomei is leagues above sanemi and the other hashiras

[vestal sable]

Did you forget tho

Koku has centuries of fighting experience

[subtle flicker]

And

[vestal sable]

And did you see that gyomei had plot armor

[subtle flicker]

Is it suppose to INSTANTLY make him stronger ?

musan have more experience than yoriichi and he got destroyed

hantegu has more experience than mitsuri and she held her own

[vestal sable]

im back

[subtle flicker]

gyokko has more experienc eamd he lost to muichorpu

[vestal sable]

Yoriichi is already a mastered swordsman

And a born genius

[subtle flicker]

ofc expirence is a good stat but it cant be your only defense

[vestal sable]

And again irl logic musical Prodigies vs musicians who had 20 years of experience

[subtle flicker]

give me reason of why koku bade beats full power (all amp that litteraly exist 💀) gyomei

[vestal sable]

Theres alot of Breathing forms koku didnt use yet

[subtle flicker]

He used every single stats

[vestal sable]

he skipped alot

he skipped most of the forms to 16

[subtle flicker]

He used the strongest form tho

he used 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 14 16

he used his strongest form so

[vestal sable]

He skipped most of the forms

[subtle flicker]

Thats your argument

?

[vestal sable]

Totally

Do my honor

[subtle flicker]

If he didnt use all then he wasnt trying ?

[vestal sable]

Probably

And you havent seen 11 12 13 15 forms yet

The only way gyomei won was plot armor

i am back prob i wont have sleep today so gyomei wouldnt even be able to win against douma because of his longvrange attacks and clons kokushibo is stronger than douma so kokushibo claps the gyomei

If there was no plot armor koku can clap Gyomei in his form

Mhm

Gyomei and sanemi had plot armor

You cant beat the most Op technique right now

[subtle flicker]

Back

So now ill debunk you cuz i like it that way

[vestal sable]

Debunk that and plot armor also

[subtle flicker]

Rengoku wasnt trying against akaza based on your logic

sMe for tengen

remgoku didnt use all lf his forms

and tengen didnt too

[vestal sable]

Tengen used 3 of them while having 5

[subtle flicker]

So 60% of his techniques

kokushiboo used 75% of them

[vestal sable]

11 12 13 15

[subtle flicker]

12/16 = 75%

Rengoku used 6/9 forms

1 2 3 4 5 9

so 66%

[vestal sable]

Loving that number

[subtle flicker]

60%<66%<75%

[vestal sable]

Tengen 60%
Koku 75%
Rengoku 66%

[subtle flicker]

so kokushiboo was more trying ?

No

exactly

[vestal sable]

Hm?

[subtle flicker]

number forms doesnt matter

if you use you final form then its enough to prove you were trying

[vestal sable]

But the final form isnt technically that trying

[subtle flicker]

douma, akaza, sanemi, giyu,kokushiboo,yoriichi,tanjirou,rui,daki,gyomei,kanao,shinobu

[vestal sable]

i will go off topic for giyuu tell me he didnt try when he used his LLUL?

[subtle flicker]

Hantegu,gyokko

Its dead calm

not lull

lull is in fake translations

anyways

giyuu tries when he uses dead calm

[vestal sable]

ifw.gyomei._#6675 You’ve Reached Level 6

[subtle flicker]

it proved his power

[vestal sable]

Mhm

[subtle flicker]

when he used it on rui he showed that he was LEAGUES aboves rui

[vestal sable]

But the thing is without trying you can still use the final form

Koku was raging deep inside when gyomei reminded him of someone passing the age of 21 or yoriichi

[subtle flicker]

And gyomei still blocked when koku was 1 inch away from him

and he held his own with a bloodlustee koku

[subtle flicker]

Depends

if you dont wanna take rist you can

most of the time you use at the very end

like most of the ds characters

[vestal sable]

Koku was cautious when fighting gyomei also

Remember his pride?

[south atlas]

He gave up

[vestal sable]

He doesnt try to get scratch atleast

[vestal sable]

Like the end yes

[subtle flicker]

L,ao

another one of the morons that believes that

respectfully tho

dont take the “moron” seriously

[subtle flicker]

He didnt

[vestal sable]

Oops i accidently reacted to that

[subtle flicker]

He wasnt even able to touch gyomei with it

None of kokushiboo's forms touched gyomei

[vestal sable]

He has his pride not to get scratch or get wounded

[subtle flicker]

when did he say that ?

[vestal sable]

you dont remember?

[subtle flicker]

and he stopped his pride btw

[vestal sable]

Right at when they scratched his kimono

[subtle flicker]

because he regenerated his head and said that it shameful to not accept defeat

[vestal sable]

He got angry and decided to fight as a demon

[subtle flicker]

He didnt

he just said that it couldnt kill an infant

[vestal sable]

Still

[subtle flicker]

?

it doesnt prove anything tho

btw you use wrong translations

[vestal sable]

i use poetic words

[subtle flicker]

Valid reason tbh

[silver pike]

muzan o yujiro0

[simple token]

Muzan and yujiro isn't even comparable

[harsh schooner]

Remember Koko was all about perfection

He wanted to be the perfect samurai

That's why he gave up when he saw how far he had strayed from the samurai path when he was in his demon form

So it makes sense he just didnt want a scratch on him

[brittle anchor]

Yeah cuz he’s a retard

[vestal sable]

Roblox is taking out any audio that’s longer than 6 seconds, say goodbye music hand 👋

[brittle anchor]

Who the fuck uses Roblox audios

[atomic prairie]

If yujiro from Baki then Yujiro

[gloomy barn]

What’s better snake or flower for pvp

[atomic prairie]

Temari

[harsh schooner]

neither

both take skill to use

[gloomy barn]

u use water?

yes u do lol

that takes no skill

snake and flower take most

[harsh schooner]

?

i said

or what i meant

was they take the most skill to use

out of all the breathings

@gloomy barn and surprisingly i main both flower and serpent

[gloomy barn]

...

i am deeply sorry i read that wrong

@harsh schooner

[harsh schooner]

lol nah water kids are dumb

[gloomy barn]

yeah i am good with serpent

but flower seems fun

[harsh schooner]

it is

good counters

and block breakers

[gloomy barn]

more fun than serpent

[harsh schooner]

eeh

i'd say its equal

[gloomy barn]

what do u use now

[harsh schooner]

flower rn

grinding for 4th move

[gloomy barn]

k

[atomic prairie]

People that cant counter water are dumb

since it takes only to hold F and Q out when they use T

As a former water main, I can say that all you do is T+ m1 x4+R+E and repeat

But all of it is blockable

[harsh schooner]

i've mained water

super fun to use

i dont mind people who use combos

but people who just straight up spam are braindead

[sleek dagger]

debate

[knotty prairie]

I want to ask something

If shinobu awakened her slayer mark would she be able to behead douma

As the slayer mark gives boost in strength

SPOILER ALERT

[knotty prairie]

Yea

Ppl who combo r rlly fun to 1v1 too

But those who just keep moves spamming..

Pains

[harsh schooner]

@midnight cloak Its ez to fix infs

just add a bigger global cd

or add more regular cd on certain moves

not that hard

[harsh schooner]

are we talkin like a 1v1 shinobu vs douma?

[knotty prairie]

No I'm talking about the manga

[harsh schooner]

but with slayer mark?

[knotty prairie]

Yea

[harsh schooner]

im ngl i think if douma hadnt been poisened

they all would have been slaughtered