#🤬│debate
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Not even close
mars
Im an asian...
Huh why hate china 🤨
racism
lmfao this is downplay on dbs
High universal? You mean Uni+
Secondly, Goku being in UI and shaking the void of nothingness is a 5D feat as they explained that the world of void is filled with no space nor time and to be 5D you have to transcend spacetime which is exactly what the world of void is, also in ssjg when Goku an Beerus were clashing fists, Whis stated that their clashes was enough to destroy the universe, and base Goku is easily planetary, as Namek arc Vegeta and King Vegeta and other characters have shown to blow up moons, planets, etc (Frieza being one of them)
It's not low nor mid diff
Also being a gag character doesn't mean inf everything, especially in crossverse debating
It just means satire
You had the logical part right tho, low to neg diff Jiren beats Saitama from what we've seen of Saitama
🚫 Kira | Lovable, that command is disabled in this channel.
awesome guy#2867 You’ve Reached Level 5
L bozo
thank you
im jk
hm ok
im nice
Dbz is a trash anime
That's all
Ehh the plot and characters go deep
Here
Watch Seththeprogrammar explain the moro arc
Aka the title of the vid is called "In defense of Goku vs Moro"
Alr then
Ye, I think that vid will change your pov of some things
Mhm
bayot
bro nah putin, how bout instead of making a move on the ukraine, you make a move on some bitches instead
You're fucking weird
The arcs are fucking lit. Pacing is kinda slow in the og db but in DBZ it's absolutely fucking peak. Story is simple but made into a masterpiece, characters are goated and the plot is goated too
yes
Im biased
Nice
Og dragonball>>>>>>>>>z,gt and super
^
Dragon ball is meh
ds is garbage, all it's good for is animation and character designs
maybe fights too but most of them are plot based
2 upper moons got depressed and gave up because they were too strong to be beaten in yhe first place
||Muzan x Yoriichi||
What?

Y’all do know yorrichi shit on MUZAN like how a 7 year old shits on there legos
bro read the manga 💀
they married and had like 4 kids lol
😐
Tanjiro, Inosuke, Zenitsu and Nezuko dude
They left Inosuke on a mountain
Gave Zenitsu at an adoption center and got taken in by his sensei
tanjiro and nezuko were given to some cool dude too
and then Yoriichi and Muzan divorced
Read the manga man
...
All dragon ball arcs are peak. Og db was just a bit slow imo, but I enjoyed DBZ more. DBS is mid tho
But im still hyped for the new movie
We bout to see some Dbz Gohan action
But all of them are peak
Dbs = ass
Dbz = low mid
Og dB = good
Dbs = mid
Dbz = Fucking peak
Db = Fucking peak
My opinion
From an objective perspective ofc
That might be true, but in my heart Db/DBz will always be peak
An opinion is always biased in some sort
read Beserk
hwyvinee#7769 You’ve Reached Level 9
Man said JoJo and good writing
about AoT
Aot is ass
Up to u ig. I prefer the anime
ok
Aot was good for like not even 2 full seasons
Aot manga got murdered by the ending tho
true
Mappa might make a AOE tho
small chance tho
Hoping they adapt the ending the same way as the manga
So all the anime only kids cry
LOL
they will
Anyone watched Noragami tho?
I didn't
Yuh
yoriichi is a extremely close family friend
yeah
yoriichi is a family friend
tanjiros related to one of this students
oh yea
wait
yeah I remember now
the man who looked alike Tanjiro passed the Hanafuda earrings and Sun Breathing for his successors
he promissed
idk if he did it though
I finished the manga 3 weeks ago and already forgot
demons flaced though
no need to use breathings
Nego ney e melhor que Justin bieber
𝐊𝐚𝐟𝐞𝐲𝐳𝐢𝐧#7804 You’ve Reached Level 1
hm
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF DIAVOLO (from game) WASN’T SUPER WEAK?
He would destroy demon slayer
xxug0t#5977 You’ve Reached Level 5
Goku solos or something
- Goku can't touch Giorno
It all starts by here
- GER has no physical power to beat Goku
- Its a stalemate
@magic dome
GER reality bends
he can literally revert your actions
to the point it never happened
before u say he can loop goku into death
Im not saying this
did you ever saw the 2. ?
2.?
🗿
.
of course
What is it then
Speed blitz is the act of attacking your opponent before they are able to see or react. There is confusion between Speedblitz and Outracing. Outracing is different from Speedblitz, where one character is simply faster than the other.
This is goku's speedblitz
do u think giorno can attack someone who isn't ''existing'' for a short period of time
Return to Zero is a passive...
Or better, intangible?
It's an ability
still passive
and RTZ turns automatic when giorno activates it
when he deactivates it, it will be no longer auto
Giorno doesn't activate it
he was literally unconscious
during it
the stand itself said that Giorno doesn't even know GER Powers
or how to use it
while being conscious
But here's the point
that's exactly what speedblitz is.
And if GER can sense goku
how will he RTZ or smthg?
do you even know what RTZ does
Return to zero = Nullify Attacks
amen
But how will he nuliffy something intangible?
Something that can't be touched for a short period of time?
just because hes fast doesnt means hes intangible
Speedblitz makes him intangible for a short period of time
and the enemy can't sense goku's presence
How will GER nullify something that can't be touched
But he can touch you?
Bro.
THE STAND IS SENTIENT
DOESN'T MEAN HE IS AUTOMATICALLY A GOD THAT SENSES SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME
Speedblitz = you will not ''exist''/be intangible for a short period of time where No one can sense your presence or see you
Goku isnt a stand user
Neutral universe
bullshit
you can't unexist on both universes anyways
theres obviously a way to sense Goku
giorno weak ger is what makes him powerful 😮💨
That's why neutral universe exists
Giorno can just use his life form sense shit
DUDE
ARE YOU SERIOUS????????
DID YOU LITERALLY
NOT READ WHAT I SAID?
Intangible or not he still makes apart the motion
SPEEDBLITZ MAKES GOKU INTANGIBLE MAKING NO ONE OR ANYTHING SENSE HIS PRESENCE, HE CANNOT BE ATTACKED BUT HE CAN ATTACK YOU
everything that is motion
can be reverted to the point It didnt started
That's not how GER works
GER can nullify attacks and Put anyone in a death loop
no
ger is related with time
and goku is anti-temporal
actually the things he reverted
Dude
Giorno's nullify: Anything that touches him, goes back and every damage the Attack's autor received, will not be there.
He can't I mean
thats not how it works
Did u watch part 5?
What do you think goku would do?
not kill the life forms ?
Actually he would
this would certainly be the first thing to come on his head
what BIQs mean
Battle IQ
IQ during battle
And goku isn't ''dumb'', he's just really happy
but if he was serious
idk what would happen but probably
he would not be joking around
AND GUESS WHAT
i wouldnt knew that
SPEEDBLITZ
MAKES YOU
INTANGIBLE
AND
NO ONE OR ANYTHING
CAN SENSE YOUR PRESENCE
BUT
HE CAN ATTACK
DURING SPEEDBLITZ
WHICH MEANS
RTZ WOULD BE NOTHING
what makes you think GER needs to sense shit
And also
his power is literally: It didnt exist and never will
we never saw giorno nullifying attacks from non-stand users
So as we don't have enough information for that
Let's end this debate
wym nullifying
Nullify
dude
my fucking god
how will GER nullify something that doesn't exist?
for a short period of time
But ok
it didnt exist and never will
you can rewrite something
@vestal sable yo
Who do u think won?
its a stalemate
Goku would certainly win by arm wrestling
Stamina
And all shit
because dudes universe scale shit
hes typing
but GER wont let him do this
I’d say Goku wins by just speed blitz
of course Goku wins 🗿
I mean
Rex Zy#0001 You’ve Reached Level 4
and you speedblitz
as i showed
speedblitz only
Can ger really do much when the user is dead before he can react
YO I FORGOT ABOUT HTAT
THE REACTION TIME
fuck
if i was a little bit smarter
And speedblitz is also a fucking passive
RTZ TURNS AUTOMATIC
WHEN
THGE
USER
ACTIVATES IT
AND IF ACTIVATED FOR TOO LONG
THEN ITS A TRUE STALEMATE
EXHAUSTION
the stand
both
the stand is sentisnt
The passive and etc
Now here's where you just lost the debate
Yk why?
No I don't
ok whatever
Thank you
pro
A 20 minute debate
W
Tortoise Experience reqiuem (Made in Discord):
Ability's Runs so fast it bends your mom and the universe itself
Strength: A
Speed: infinite
Range: None
Durability: infinite
Presicion: Infinite
Growth potential: Omega
VS
Bread: The world.
Ability: can trick anyone into thinking he is a girl
Strength: A
Speed: A
Range: C
Durability: B
Presicion: B
Growth potential: B
Stats: Can force anyone touch grass cause the range is inf
WHO WILL WIN THE STAND TOURNAMENT??
WE WILL FIND OUT SOON ENOUGH!
zoros left pinky toe solos demon slayer no cap
im taking a shit
Ok
lol
buff mice claps muzan (also solos Yoriichi)
Cara q jogo ruim mn, vcs conseguem fazer merda
Krl eu vou parar de jogar isso, mds vcs pioraram oq já era ruim
Parabéns
So in short, I don’t understand.
20 minute debate and what was the conclusion?
arrow user calls me runner lol
saiki k is probably most powerful anime character
Why?
Tf? Sukuna
GYUTARO VS HANTENGU WHO WINS
Well it can go both ways tbh
Eh, wrong.
Correct
Wrong
Meh why not
See- you're right but also wrong about the speed blitzing part, Ger is speed scale is weird tbh
RTZ is passive, GER activates it when he feels that Giorno is in danger shown when Diavolo erased time/skipped time, GER RTZ'D him without Giorno even knowing as he stated that Giorno doesn't even know about that part
Here's the thing, GER can sense Goku and keep up with him, likewise with Diavolo tbh
I'll explain soon
and space
It's actually half and half, GER technically surpasses Goku in terms of speed but- it's just weird
It's whoever debunks, and scales better
He will be able to react because technically in this case going by GERS RTZ he'd be speedblitzing Goku
He's fodder
Lol because domain Expansion
nakime is the best demon art
she uses Akaza kokoshibo and rui
Bailey_07#4171 You’ve Reached Level 2
@magic dome @vestal sable and @grim wigeon let me explain how ger's RTZ actually works and what it exactly does, and I'll make this short since you guys already know what ger's rtz does I'll explain the logic behind it
So we already know rtz is passive but the thing is, is that when rtz is activated this would give Giorno or I should say ger immeasurable speed
ʳⁱᵐᵘʳᵘ#1863 You’ve Reached Level 13
How?
whats the debate
Well when Diavolo erased time ger bypassed it. He transcended his time erased and if you don't know there can't be time without space and there can't be space without time, and time is 1D (1 Dimensional) and space is 3D, so the fact that ger transcended erased time and performed actions within erased time that would give him immeasurable speed which is much faster than Goku who is MFTL+ (Massively Faster Than Light+) so technically ger would speedblitz Goku, and transcending spacetime is 5D because its also existing outside of spacetime and that's to become 5D so Giorno (ger)=5D low complex multiversal
Goku vs Giorno yet again
And if you don't know guys which I'm sure you guys do
If you're a dimension above another then you're infinitely more powerful than them no matter what, that's literally how dimensional tiering/scaling is in general, so ger yeah-
BUT
Here's the weird part and where the debate is at
Since Goku did shook the world of void which is to be said to have no time nor space which is 5D, he has 5D ap (attack potency) thus he's able to beat ger, although good luck with trying to explain since ger has immeasurable speed so lol tuff
@atomic prairie I think I explained that pretty good for them to understand right?
ye
ight bet
Atleast someone else said it
Avinut#4112 You’ve Reached Level 1
Said what?
GER and it's own consciousness and it having immeasurable speed scaling
Ohhh
Ye lmao
You can also downplay him and say infinite speed lmao which is still faster than MFTL+
Also that guy on the goku side of the debate was talking out his ass a bit, speedblitz is a term and bro's acting like it's an ability that anyone fast can use
Huh? Oh
Nah
Speedblitz is literally just a term for characters that are much faster than others for example Goku vs Saitama (Goku speedblitz's Saitama)
Or
Saitama vs Deku
Saitama
Exactly
It's just the gap of speed
Idk where intangible comes from
I could be FTL+ and you could be MFTL+ and that's a speedblitz
Yeahhh no
It's just the receiving end of the speedblitz not knowing what's happening
AIn't no intangible shi in speedblitz's
ye
I can't stop laughing at "speedblitz is a passive too"
The only thing you can talk about that involves intangible shi is dimensions and shi
It's not an ability so it can't be passive it's all on your speed that you control
Yea like kamui
so not passive
Yer
Passive=automatic but if you have control then it's not really passive since you're controlling your speed
Bro on giorno's side didn't know how to argue the speedblitz headcanon tho
Yeah I wasn't taking sides I just wanted them to understand how it really goes
Technically giorno wins mid-high diff
Only reason the diff is that is because Goku has 5D ap
RTZ is a passive once GER is out so ap wouldn't really matter I think
if Goku didn't shook the world of void then giorno neg diffs Goku since Goku can't even really view him
Well true but that's only RTZ
The death loop is most likely to be touched
They didn't even bring up death loop
Sukuna destroys Akaza
Probably cuz they just stood by the thought that goku faster
Ohh ye
Mhm I'd like to say their pretty new at this which is completely okay
Dunno what do y'all at debating on this over powered characters tbh
like
why don't you do smth like
hanami vs doma or sum
Idk about either of them
Avinut#4112 You’ve Reached Level 2
Imma just go bed
I'll tell you later about them
+in every debate on goku and giorno you explain 11 paragraphs only to get ignored by the person you argued with 💀
Lmao
Lmao
True
that dude most likely ain't even online
hanami from jjk vs demon slayer main cast
hanami is the plant special curse
the one that beaten up the main cast at the end of the season only to nearly get 1 shotted by gojo
Gabi™#4415 You’ve Reached Level 14
Ye
Ig Hanami would at least stand a chance if not beat all of them
since when Gojo destroyed the veil Hanami already understood Aoi's place swap power and would've turn the fight 180°
And demon slayer doesn't really have any haxs so hanami would most likely beat them low diff I'd say given the haxs
ye
Ye
not counting the domain expansion
Ye but still pretty good
I mean, the Domain Expansion is guaranteed to hit
so not counting that one
nobody asked
i don't need u to
As far as I know Meliodas is a demon kong now or sum
idk didn't watch seven deadly frames
but I'm 99% sure meliodas wins that
It’s almost like it’s a debate chat and that’s why he said. That
i just typed it randomly
props to you
I never thought GER would be this complex
how will ger sense that giorno is in danger by something that doesn't ''exist''?
GER does not have inf sped, wiki just makes some weird things
GER is easy to understand
Cough made in heaven cough
Bro please show where your getting this speedblitz means intangible thing from
Being capable of attacking your adversary Without any reaction or without feeling your presence
Rex Zy#0001 You’ve Reached Level 5
So basically you don't ''exist'' for a short period of time
No one can see you, attack you or sense you
But you can attack your adversary
Did you read that somewhere or are you just making it up?
Cuz speedblitzing is just a term for being way faster than someone else
No.
Goku's speedblitz is different
You just need to search it on google
Anyways how giorno beat anos and goku beat giorno and saitama beat goku
Can I get a link or something, I just keep getting things that prove my point
Sure
WTF
Did he literally say saitama beats goku?
Anos beats giorno
Negative diff.
Yes
...
just joking
But before ya'll say it, No anos does not beat goku easily
Atleast a hard diff.
But he still does beat him.
Did you know that this laser beam is freeza's energy?
And this is not his strongest form ...
So nah? 
Ok
Hit said it was an invisible ki blast
Goku creating a galaxy:
Battle IQ.
Let's him down time after time
His plan to beat goku black and zamasu Was to attack black
Great battle iq
and also
Bills at his first appearance
destroyed half of a planet
using less than 1%
of his power
Who the fuck is bills
God of destruction.
Oh yeah
Fair enough
My bad.
And also uh
Beerus
Destroyed a planet just by
SNEEZING?
And berus didn't show more than 2%
of his power at the anime
And he did that sleeping-
Eh toriyama Is weird
True, but made a badass anime,
For the movie he said beerus was at 70 percent
Which clearly isn't the case
Is it like
For the battle of gods movie
Ik
And beerus also has hakai
Check Google bruh type the strongers anime characters
Which is why I don't know why toriyama said that
forget about beerus for now
Google 💀
I only use google
to search for feats
to do my scales
Not wiki
Literally
Goku: breaths
Saitama: 💀
Indeed lmao
Ger literally watched made in heaven happened and said not my problem
@late hare
Naaa
I'm sorry? I'm not following ger should most definitely sense goku's existence
Goku's presence just erases for a short period of time
Bro saitama run broke through time and space goku5can? :0
As he has attacks that don't exist
Goku black breaking the barrier of time with his scythe:
None of that happens with a speedblitz
Saitama punch god which capable of destroying universe with one punch duh
Goku created a galaxy by increasing his ki
BROOO
💀
Pov: he thinks saitama actually lifted half of the planet earth
(he doesn't know it's a fan animation)
Duh
GRIZZ D PRO#9036 You’ve Reached Level 7
And i create it
So now ur creating powers for saitama?
even though it's not canon?
...
Since when? Because being MFTL+ doesn't erase your presence you're just extremely fast
fodder?
SPEEDBLITZ
ACTIVATED.
MFTL+
this is his speed
Speedblitz does not
increase
his speed
What the fuck
Basically weak
takemichi: breaths
saiki k: 💀
Fine udk wat to say
Saiki weak as fuck
What's better water thunder or mist
Anos solos
if he takes off his glasses he can literally turn them to stone
and he needs to crack the stone to kill them so

Saitama beat a star level character (boros)
Freeza at his first form destroyed a planet without any diff
Freeza (Gold) was Multi Planetary+ and Goku SSB (Multi Planetary++)
That's not how speedblitz goes and like I said GER literally has immeasurable speed
how is he weak
Do you actually think he has inf speed?????????????
Just because he walked in diavolo's dimension
I mean idk what to say soo I hate losing anos solos
Compared to other characters yes he is very weak
doesn't mean he has inf speed
Anos beats goku with High-mid diff or depending on the situation
That's not a dimension he quite literally erased time in that certain space
May be a hard diff
he can teleport and if he takes off 1 of his gears off his powers go haywire
Not Diavolo's dimension, Diavolo literally erased time itself 1D+3D=4D ger transcends=5D
Goku is anti-temporal
That's not what we're talking about
i still think he could just take his glasses off and one of his "gumballs" off
Atleast anos won
Hitto has the power to ''stop'' time for 2 seconds
By literal logic. Yesss
And not inf speed
Goku was able to manipulate Hitto's ''time stop''.
Stopping time and erasing time is very different
Temporal jump, to be clear.
Immeasurable
Dio can stop, diavolo can erase
Still related with time
Basically any time attack
will not work with goku
That's RTZ.
Oh ya the new anime characters
rtz is related with time
His nullifying attack showed this
When he used RTZ at diavolo's ''dimension'' or time erase ability
The time was reversed
every action was being reversed
Reverting TIME.
The grizz (me)
Power:inf
Durability:inf
Spee:inf
Fans:everyone
Ability jump all vanish
Fans: schizophrenia
Cap
Proof of schizophrenia
Another cap
💀
Where is this goku anti temporal coming from tho?
Avinut#4112 You’ve Reached Level 3
lemme find it
hes a physic and can read their minds basically giving him a big advantage IF they were struggling but he could still read their mind doesnt matter what character it is
Man not knowing human create saiyan
asdsajd
Goku Hakai>
Or just speedblitz
actually he doesn't even need speedblitz or any transformation
did you watch saiki
Grizz (sirius bread ssj9999) solos anime

Moving in stopped time isn't anti temporal its just an insane speed feat
Speedblitz, Tresspassing time, Hakai and a speed 2 times faster than light speed.
Tresspassing time is at SS3.
aka Super saiyan 3
Die a lot of time
Hes die a lot

Kuririn:
2 times faster than light isn't very fast
650.000km per second
This is literally
Bruh that godly being can one shoot zeno
Nah I just meant he's way faster
10 laps around the world in one second
bro...
wtf are you saying
Zeno touching a planet completely erased it.
thats a planet
Rengoku#2411 You’ve Reached Level 16
but a character is another thing
Zeno sama and Zeno sama destroying worlds to entertain themselves!
Here it is
watch the video.
Zeno can also erase any being and Manipulate destiny.
OH SHIT I JUST GOT IT-
you dirty mind boi
List can solos anime
1.KURIRIN (MUI BREAD)
2.BUGGY (PIRATE OF MULTIVERSE)
3.RAMEN GUY(THE SURVIVER)
4.SHAGGY (THE DEV0URER OF MULTIVERSE
5.GRIZZ (ME) (ONE ABOVE ALL)

we are not doing satires here, dumbass..
Take this seriously.
Ayo homosexual rengoku 😳
it ain't him
Enmu reincarnated as the gayest man
Im not duh?
and disguised as rengoku
BRO
Im just hate losing
💀
NEVER LOSE
Man how tf I supposed to knowing I literally got ban and now I'm back after year
oh shit
Rex Zy#0001 You’ve Reached Level 6
to be extact
Bro



What y'all lvl on dsrpg
Bye
Yeah and that's uni+ in terms of feats of zeno we've only seen uni+
92
Cya love u bro
i love cats
Anyways i meet goku yesterday i touch him he dies 100000 time and he said im sorry i will never come back

and a low multiversal if highballed a bit
Short story
he touched the planet without even trying
I'm still suffer trying to hit lvl 300
Zeno is probably MORE than uni+
im max lvl
Wow flex
Mine 251 😢 😢 😢
Idk why but i feel losing
Yeah and that's the problem, we can't scale him any higher
He's only uni+ at best multiversal
Lemme search for some feats real quick then
Bro? Cap
Ight
Please shut the fuck up
He just phonetary
Wanna help me?
Ig- hold on I have some
I have tea party with zeno 1 week ago 💀
Zeno using destroying zamasu
that one that was like a ''cloud''
He was bigger than the planet earth
There was a close
Try search more
They will show me sit there eating
That's known as the most rattiest scalings you can do on Zeno
Hmmm
no way they did this.
WHO!?
''DAVID BLACK''
DB!? (Deathbattle?)
LITERALLY
Bro rip that blue alien kid 👽
Soo to debate it put
why is naruto close to zeno?
No there is no debate
WHY IS NARUTO SO CLOSE TO ZENO'S POWER
Zeno no diffs
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING
It's just shitty scales that I hate seeing
same
one time i saw
comparing among us to dbz
and somehow the among us won;
I got fucking mad
K i gtg cuz my brother wants to play on the pc
Random numbers scaling lmao
GRIZZ SOLOS
Cap
me > all anime
Me > rimaru
K somehow i feel winning
Lol
...
wait doesn't that mean Madara juubi can basically clap giorno
Since he has the funni Limbo
I debate some one 1v1 me
demonsense#3254 You’ve Reached Level 1
Sound is trash prove me wrong.
we are not doing fucking satires here
stop being a fucking retarded
he does on his RTZ though
Madara>all jojo verse
No.
Yes lol
he just nullifies attacks.
The ones whos conscious on RtZ is the enemy
no one around saw it
so it never existed for people around it but not actually on it
I said it once and i'll say it one more time
Speedblitz.
Dude
how many times
i'll have to tell you
He becomes intangible
or just
stops ''existing''
for a short period of timen
no one can sense him
do you have any proofs about this
or see him
if you are fast or does exist
Just search what speedblitz is.
you need to be somewhere
do you mean "dbz speedblitz" ?
because no one unexisted
just from being fast
Only Juubi Madara
No
His Limbo is the only thing that could bypass Ger
Goku's speedblitz
Madara goat.
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