#🤬│debate
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Vinland saga released in 2019
The same year released: demon slayer, promised neverland, dr. Stone, fire force, one punch man season 2, mob psycho 100, dororo, weathering with you, konosuba movie, violet evergreen movie
Is that 1 out of 10000?
Most of them already existed before, and they have a second season because they are different
?
Demon slayer anime first released in 2019
Dr. Stone first season released in 2019
And thats not all the animes released in 2019, you just brought what is good
Because you claimed that only 1 good show relessed
^ here
Yes, 1 out of 10000
I just named multiple that released that year
Which are considered good
Ans theres plenty more
That i didnt mention
Ofc theres slop thst released that year. But you claimed 1 good show relessed and the rest were bad
You cant say solo levelling is good and claim dororo is mid
Quite the opposite
Though I do agree fire force is ass
Then why start this debate
I mean, it is not about being good or bad
It is about being different
Even if it is bad
It is different
Whats different about solo levelling
Its a generic weak to overpowered dungeon crawler
Like a MC that kills people is different
Maybe in the children friendly anime you watch
Try watching something that isnt my little pony
The anime thst I listed are unrelated to this current conversation
They were some of the higher rated shows of a specific year
We are talking about something different from majority
Even if it is bad
It is different
Like, it actually tried tô be different
You made the claim that solo levelling is different but it doesnt differ from anime
Its the same generic concept
Weak to strong
Generic plot that works in favour of the mc becoming overpowered
Him killing people doesnt make it "unique"
There are plenty of anime out there that do it too
I shall disagree with plenty of anime that do it too
The ending of aot is very bad i agree
Is it unique? Probably more unique than solo levelling killing a few people
Its not
Killing 80% of the world population is unique in what way?
Also corean stories are ascending lately, we shall see better stories in the future
Because ooooh look how edgy it is
Korean*
And theyre not ascending
If you actually read korean comics or novels you'd know theyre no different than Japanese manga
You've mentioned only 3 most popular korean web comics that got mid ass adaptations by Japanese studios
I just read weak hero and it was very different from what i usually see in mangas
Like tokyo revenge
Can i compare weak hero to tokyo revenge?
Idk
I think it is the same genre
Weak hero is about school gangs you know
That kind of thing
And what makes it different?
The MC is actually a weakling
Delinquents...
Has been done a lot of times
Ah yes the classic weak but really smart guy that gets around bullies
So he plays dirty against the stronger delinquents
And how is this different
Like he doesnt fight fair
😭😭😭
He uses tools to win
Because the story is not about him
Or focused on him
It is more focused on secondary characters
He appears rarely
And he is not the one that beat the big names
How does that even make sense
The story is about a side character that doesnt appear in the story often
OPM is like that, isnt it?
What
Look this new season
Because theres a plot going on, and saitama is still the main character regardless of the screen time hes getting in season 3
He was the main character in season 1 and 2
Weak Hero is like that too, or kinda like that
There is some differences
I mean you have to read to understand
It is something more technical
Okay
Is it shounen?
Or considered shounen
Idk if shounen is only about Magic or powers
Or every anime focused on fight is shounen
I could bring alot of sources but im in a good mood
Korean stuff isnt any better because it doesnt follow isekai slop formats they still do
Korean comics are filled with slop spam just like Japanese manga
With plenty overdone themes
And generic concepts
If I had a penny for every korean school bullying story
Id be a millionair
Because bullying in school is a huge problem in korea
So theres loads of slop about it
Bro mha is best new gen anime why isn’t it on the vote
This has to be ragebait
best 💔
U guys are cornballs glazing demon slayer lmao
Mha has the best mc the best story line and the best side characters
I just can't agree to that unfortunately
You cant be calling people cornballs and then say mha is best xxx 
Youre essentially saying cowshit sucks bit horseshit is peak
Its still shit
ik you believe both are shit but what do you think should deserve the vote more?
Mha is slop
Got bored after 2 seasons
Deku can go fuck himself
Theres a reason nobody agrees with you
^unrelated
First 2 seasons of jjk were decent until the whole anime finishes its not worthy of being considered the best imo
Vinland
^
I'm a opm fan but in terms of anime only? 😬
I'm not a demon slayer fan but I think it's fair to admit that objectively it is an enjoyable anime to watch, not necessarily the best written entry on there tho
so its not the best
nope
tough pick tho, I think it'd be between aot, re:zero, and vinland saga for me
I'll just vote all 3
theres only 1 right answer in that list
I'm seeing weak hero be mentioned when I scroll up, so W mention
meh, vinland saga is amazing, and probably has the best character growth and arc as well as theme and message, but "best" in general is too broad and so it's very much up to subjectivity.
so the only right answer is which ever one feels is right
nah
mhmm
out of all the shows i mentioned, only 2 id be able to fight for
and that's cool
the rest id point and laugh because they're obviously not valid choices
certainly so in any objective measure
"best" alone just isn't a good defining trait to measure things by, so it'll inevitably be taken as which meant the most to the voter, and by that measure all choices are valid. You can't discredit how a person was impacted by a story, regardless of how objectively written it was
U watched two fucking seasons you’re the type of guy who watched the first episode of Naruto and got bored go fuck yourself
p4nd4_0verlord You’ve Reached Level 5
2 seasons are alot
lmao
do i need to watch the whole anime to have an opinion on it?
what a waste of time
also comparing "watching 1 ep and saying its boring" and 2 whole seasons is insane
i can imagine your iq being lower than a dogs
bro its NOT that deep ;-;
people can have opinions man even if they're harsh
Shut the fuck up only im allowed an opinion because I actually watch good anime
yo why are you so pressed pipe down
U have to atleast fucking know what it’s about
two seasons vs 1 ep... what kind of comparison is that 😭
Nah Subaru
why is he so pressed?
Bro fr these dumasses don’t know shi
Mha is the best new gen anyone
.-.
Anyone who says otherwise are retarted
I was saying I personally don't believe that
for an anime to be considered the "best" out of the category has to do everything right
mha is easily one of the most easily predictable shounen out there
even if it's simple as fuck and boring
it does exectly what you'd think it would do
if it's doing everything right then it's considered better (enjoyablitiy counts too I take it back)
i couldnt keep watching cuz it was simply nothing special
it did nothing that another show didnt do
i do know, if in 2 seasons i dont know "what its about" then the anime is trash ijbol
If people like this dickhead insult me over an opinion then yeah I’m gonna get fuckin pressed
its just a superhero school
bro what you told him to go fuck himself ;-;
you told me to go fuck myself your iq is lowering by the second
Because he said my iq was worse than a dogs
bro what-
real af
am I reading smth wrong??
Not real af that guys a dumass
Nah actually
All of u guys are fuckin dumasses
2 seasons of MHA = around nearly 40 episodes
Imagine being a mod on discord in the big 25
if by 40 episodes nothing has happened
you told em that before he insulted you
then that is just utter madness
Nah shut the fuck up
do smth about it?? 😭
I would if u weren’t hiding behind a fucking pc in ur moms basement
why's bro so pressed 💀
Unemployed bitch
insulting a role because i disagree with your opinion 💔
as an administrator
lordtelecomand You’ve Reached Level 15
bro's a weirdo ;-;
Gng u ain’t banning someone for having an opinion
Fuck off
straight up insulting everyone in the chat over ragebait
you said slurs
thats not an opinion anymore
Nah that really hurts coming from a kid with a pennywise pfp
So did u guys dumass
"dumass"
just leave the poor thing be
how old are you lil bro
Mha glaze ragebait has to be fake bro
Why the fuck does my age matter
not even mha glaze atp
nah that guy was serious and he gettin pressed over our opinion
it would say a lot about you
Same would for you
If your over 20 in fucking discord roblox chat then get a life
ain't you callin people unemployed and "kids"?
are you 13?
he just turned 10 hes now the biggest of em all bro
The fuck are you talking about
Yo quit sucking it and get a job
Bro ik u suck mad di
you gotta congratulate him on graduating from 3rd grade
never touched one apart from mine bro but whatever
U did not jus say that
what if i did 😤
💀💀💀 nah u jus fuckin weird lmfao
Yo cipher fuck off no one’s talking to u
wait wait is he a homophobe?
im gonna cry 
Yeah the guy called Lordtelecomand
looks like it but idc
Oh shivermetimbers
pressed over an opinion btw
Yo I’m not talking to you piss off
what will you do if he doesnt
boutta throw e-hands
/e slap
/e punch
good boy
Ain’t no way ur younger than 30
I’m 16 dickhead
did you add a 1 by accident
And stop trying to guess my age like a creep
omg the shivers
Ts is jus ragebait
goodness
and i'm the one who lives in my "mom's basement?
U get shivers from me calling you a creep 😂
That’s fucking normal age to have discord
Ur prolly a 50 year old pedo
why you pressed over NOTHING now? 😭
@bronze coyote oh no bruh
🥶
so cold
isnt it past your bedtime tho?
@blissful elbow
Unlike you guys my life doesn’t revolve around arguing on a roblox discord server
So fucking childish
dont spam ping people plz
this was so entertaining
this guy literally said slurs and insulted everyone multiple times and u tell me to not ping
😭
ok tho
Lmao u find it entertaining to argue on discord that’s fucking sad
Get a life
what slurs
^
lucky him then
oh no! me using my free time for something other than sleeping thats so sad 😭
it is a debate channel which can get heated but i think ill cap it at that
heated is different than saying slurs bro
i play league of legends
thats a mental disorder
then he wasnt half wrong
ts so sigma
NO REASON to get pressed over an opinion
Bro what all u do is sleep and talk on discord in your free time? You don’t even workout?
? i play games i go outside do stuff i need to do
using 30 minutes of my day on discord doesnt mean i spend an entire lifetime on it
mfw i come back to argue back about some shit while telling someone that arguing on discord is stupid 🔥
i cant wait for re9
30 mins 😂 bros been here since 3 o’clock pinging me
which takes 10 seconds
and then i alt tab to do smth else?
A mha fan cannot fathom that people can send a message on discord and do other things as well
its ok his IQ is still dropping
One must dedicate their entire life to send a message on discord
It prevents from doing anything else around it
Once you send a message
Your entire day has become discord
Trust
Ur a mod you shouldn’t be taking sides you peasant
returned to see some crazy crashout
truly real and really true
cipher very real and true
wsp bro
Thanks
ion think he was talking ab u bby
Nah u zesty af
ok bby
and "so" was as in "relevance?"
@tame rampart yo can u ban this creep they keep calling me baby when I told them to stop
poor boy 🥺
when things don't go his way it goes to a "can u ban" 🥹
This lordtelemaster weirdo literally did the exact same thing lmfao earlier he told the mod to ban me 💀
Tryna act like I’m toddler but you guys do the exact same thing
Fuckin dumass
yo what champ do you main in league
slur vs the word "baby" 🤔
Silence
I like to say i main kata but i hate playing her
That’s aura
N OOOO
loll fire bruh
Im AWARE im bad with kata and I like her but because im bad and kata herself is already a bad champ i always lose 🥀
so i end up hating her
thats why i play 40 arena games daily
Are you a baby that its offending you?
Where the helliate is ghost of yotei
did i forget
🫢
game too irelevant
…
Guys i havent played new games since 2022 but i think silksong
Is fire
star_oj You’ve Reached Level 9
Fair enough
Cant argue with that lol
Lmfao
Ive played old games but didnt rlly spend money on new ones bc i got other things to spend money for
Also
Inflation
Truerr
So few games bro
Isnt that RE pfp?
Idk much
I js played 7 and village
I wanted to play 2 and 3 too
Isnt that leons gf or sum
I only played kingdom come deliverance 2 sorry guys
Well I forgot GoY
Where winds meet wasnt qualified
Either way goy isnt worthy of game of the year
What the fuck
How the fuck are you a mod
Leons love interest but theyre not together
Im wondering the same baby
Village is so ass
After dimitrescu castle its so boring
Have fun..?
The gameplay is good but the story is ass
If you want me to punish him you'll be punished double
bro it's clearly someone under the age of 13 .-.
Well I have no evidence of it
So not much can be done
But if he wants me to punish someone
Ill punish him double because he's done worse
Nah I don’t even want him to be punished
p4nd4_0verlord You’ve Reached Level 6
Nah bro I alr told you to stop trying to guess my age
And I literally said I’m 16
because ? lol
These ragebaiters are leveling up
💀
Because ur calling a teenager baby and your taking sides of an argument
awe lil baby doesn't like when a mod disagrees with his opinion 
Yeah who are your superiors
Me
How the fuck did someone like you even get moderater 💀
Most childish person I ever met
Thank you
Atleast we know your going no where in life and your going to rot as the worst roblox discord mod ever
😂
Does he know…
thats what makes it funny
im the worst mod because i disagreed with his opinion 🔥
Nah atp idgaf if u disagree with my opinion
I just think it’s creepy as fuck that u call me baby
I think all of you guys calling me baby is creepy asf
Like ur a pred
🤣
And this “mature moderator” laughs and doesn’t say sorry
Like gtfo
😭🙏 thats the worst take i’ve heard
Def under level 20
WWM is essentially ghost of yotei gameplay with more
?
Where winds meet wasnt qualified into the game of the year awards
Haven't played it yet but you're probably right
Oh ik i thought you meant like didn’t meet expectations/suprassed
saying and being is 2 diff things bby
Oh fuck
💔
Worst poll ever
Sorry chat
we want pine back
Go get him back
you stole him
Being a michellin star chef would pay off nicely
Realistically
All of them would pay off
All of them would make you loads of money
So really this is a matter of personal priorities
I wanna draw hot anime girls
So you know my vote
😭
Fair enough
Who voted coding? A.I does that almost perfectly with minor errors. All you have to do is go in and fix it
It’s genuinely the worst one to pick
Cooking is the best one
biggest lie ive heard
ai does not do all the coding perfectly
and it does plenty of errors
it can make singular pieces of code but it sucks at anything bigger or involving multiple different files. it gets lost in its self and uses outdated and poor systems
its better if you know how to code yourself
am i the only one that would want to speak every language without needing to learn
cooking is so easy
its not that cooking is hard
is that you'd become the best chef around
so..?
who wouldnt want to be gordon ramsey
i can already cook for myself and i dont want to be a chef so im good
speaking every langauge can be useful in everything
Speaking in every language is also pretty handy
Specially for non english speaking countries
it would be useful even if you speak english
the only handy thing abt being the best chef is possibly getting rich and then personal accomplishment ig
speaking every language would be useful everywhere and in anything
i mean shit
realistically
its all useful
just depends on your personal preference
depends
it wont be useful
if you got no money
to go anywhere
so you'll use the knowledge
to teach multiple different languages
get rich by speaking any language
become a translator become a dubber
an actor
literally get a bonus in every job bc u speak multiple languages
acting and dubbing is a bit different
most top dubbers/voice actors are actors and singers
knowing every language doesnt grant you the power to be a good actor or voice actor
it doesnt but with enough practice you can do anything
unless youre mentally challenged obviously
but thats a different story
not everyone makes a breakthrough in acting or dubbing
its a really hard career path
the only bonus is if there arent many voice actors for a specific language
but then again that means the demand is also low
it goes from person to person
if u get a job at dubbing or acting
bc ur good
but even if u dont by speaking every language youd get a bonus anywhere
tourist- you understand their language
travel- you also understand the language
job- can get a bonus or directly get a job focused on language
you could become a writer
could do scripts
and if u know every language perfectly it means you can write perfectly
making a good book unless ur creativity is at an all time low
Wont that also include Low Level Language?
Such as coding?
Since thats also a language?
You could understand binary?
Isnt that kinda broken
no
dude
can u see my blocked msgs
what the fuck
the language that types -....--..
not that
the name of that language is blocked
ahh
code
hahaha
people begged for codes so many times
forgot that it blocks code
Ey technically
Coding is a programming language
technically yes, practically nop
at the end of the day
but coding isnt a language
It is thoo
yes?
Its literally a language
have you ever written code?
Yeah no shit
basics though
Python java html
All languages
So is Binary
this is english
Theyre all LLL
its not a different LANGUAGE
Coding is a single language
its a PROGRAMMING language
I talking about binary mainly
.
This is just what you type its larer converted to the machine cde
but you cant speak it
WHY IS that word being blocked
But you can understand it
01110011, 01101000, 01110101, 01110100, 00100000, 01110101, 01110000
Im saying you could technically bypass all security shit online
its not a human language
You never said human language
and it was referring to human languages
All languages is all languages
Still a language
‘every language’
Who wouldve thunk
SPEAK
Languages
Speak = understand
If you speak it you can understand
Aint that the entire point
no
When u say u speak a language it means you understand it can type in it etc
not necessarily
I speak arabic but i dont understand a word ofit
(Only muslims would understand)
I can fluenty speak stuff in arabic
Like FLUENTLY
But i dont understand it
So ig the guys write
What do i even call you @tame rampart
like
Got a user name or smthin?
bet kech
Ji xinpi
kech like ketchup
😔
Then how do you speak it
0 sense
i just
Learned it by heart
ask any muslim same story 🙏
Ik it doesnt make sense
I dont know arabic
Like cant undersrand
I mean i can read it
I can speak it
I just understand
This is my language: بھائی
Ohh wait
This is arabic: أخ
Is it like a similar language
It is
I have a similar case with slavic languages
Completely similiar
I speak polish but I can understand bits from all other slavic languages like czech, Slovak, Ukrainian, Russian etc
I get it now
This is arabic: كيف حالك يا أخي؟
This is my language: کیسے ہو بھائی
Yeahh
Its trippy
But it happens
Okay I understand what you mean now
😭
It makes sense
It makes sense to those who experience it ig
Guys probably american
Yeah i wouldnt believe it either tbh
I mean i can
Since language groups exist
And languages in the same groups tend to have overlapping similarities
Languages from the romance language group tend to have overlapping similarities, maybe not fully the same but can understand stuff from each others languages
Ofc there are exceptions, some languages are simply in a group but are more different
Romance or roman?
The Romance languages, also known as the Latin or Neo-Latin languages, are the languages that directly descended from Vulgar Latin. They are the only extant subgroup of the Italic branch of the Indo-European language family.
The five most widely spoken Romance languages by number of native speakers are:
Spanish (489 million): official in Spain,...
Yeah arabic and urdu (my language) have similiar words
Its lowk cause my language was created from like 3-4 different ones
Uh
Ah*
Never knew
I like german and russian
Nice languages
I like the slavic accent though
Can't relate i dont have a slavic accent
Germans not that hard tbh
I know a few words
Like bitte
Brot
Danke
Ja
Nein
Auf widershen or something like that
Milch
I tried learning german but gave up
Yeah thats goodbye i think
Same 🙏
Ye
Couldnt be bothered
Fr
I mostly gave up cuz I tried learning it while I was back at school, but my school taught us Spanish
So I never had time to learn german on my own
And I hate spanish
So I learnt neither
:D
Id say a few other words but id get in trouble 🌚
Lmao
wild
😭
Im fluent in 2
And just barely understand 2 other
Same
Polish and english im native level
Tho my English is better than my Polish cuz i grew up in the uk
My spanish is pretty basic, I need it a bit for work since I work at a spanish firm
And im studying Japanese
Oh thats cool
My first language is English
Seconds urdu
Ive never been to the uk or us
I live in sahdi arabia
Iraq has arabic and kurdish
Its somewhere in the middle east
The middle east
Urdu reminds me of ancient babylonian cities
Or maybe that was just Ur
Ahhhhhgh
It was uruk
Thats why I was getting mixed up
Uruk, the archeological site known today as Warka, was an ancient city in the Near East or West Asia, located east of the current bed of the Euphrates River, on an ancient, now-dried channel of the river in Muthanna Governorate, Iraq. The site lies 93 kilometers (58 miles) northwest of ancient Ur, 108 kilometers (67 miles) southeast of ancient N...
Im not completely insane
lol
Euphrates river i know that one
Studied about it
Its history
Some battle took place
nws
I mean its like the birthplace of all civilisations
What Euphrates or Uruk?
Euphrates
the river was the heart of mesopotamia
which was the birthplace of the first civilisations
I mostly know it from the history of the caliphate
yea
??
Based on what
If u dont understand then you cant speak it if you understand you speak it
Like
If you say you speak a language then you can understand
Can you say milch
Why
can you say it?
Milch?
Do you know what milch is?
No?
Well its german for milk
Ok
So? That doesnt mean i speak german
Exactly
You can say it but you dont understand it
You can read it but you cant understand it
Thats the case with me and arabic
If you understand what youre saying you can say you speak it a little
Speaking isnt intended as in saying something
i dont understand arabic
I can just speak and read ut
it*
i can speak and read Arabic but i cant understand it
I can read french and I dont understand it
Also then you dont speak it as in know the language
I dont get ur point
Language is for sure the most useless but the coolest at same time
Its the most useful lol
Between the options it is not, you stay the same at every skill you have but you can speak every language on planet
All other options are able to change your life
I think music may be the most powerful
You can become a famous singer
Or actually
A new Slash
And you can become the best at any instrument
It has the biggest potential
And has the biggest options
You can just speak every option, all i can see to your future becoming an official translator to rich people
Or you can make videos on internet
Actor in any country dubber in any country singer in any language
You need to know how to sing right
Still an option
What if your voice is not good for singing, or your songs are not good
With the music option
Your songs will be good because you are good
But you would need help
Because you are good at instruments not singing
So you need someone good
Then do something else?
You can also become a writer
And since u know everything perfectly ur books will be flawless
Yes, you could teach everyone about languages
It is a powerfull weapon
But i dont think it reaches the same potential as the other one
Like becoming a new Slash
Or DaVinci
The potential is literally the biggest because it has so many options
Do you know what potential means
Becoming the best at drawing isnt potential youre just good at drawing thats your whole potential
Excluding your other skills
But theyre not perfect
Or whatever
But i have 100% sure i will become as good as Slash in one option and the other one my future is unknown
Okay? Then start thinking abt what u wanna do
Go to acting school
If u wanna be rich
Drawing has potential to learn different art styles
Anime / realistic / manga etc
Start a twitter draw god tier Japanese anime style illustrations
Not potential because you will already be able to draw them
And with enough time youll get hired to illustrate for a manga author or a light novel author
Theres levels to this
😭
And if your able to draw them then its awesome
Or you can sell expensive drawing to rich people
Hmm theres no need to do that when “modern art” exist
If you suddenly become able to draw perfectly then youll be able to do that too
You sprinkle paint and they say “its perfect”
Or the shadow of a banana being emotional
Exactly
It is an option, you can play with every option, as long as you are good, imagine being a pro at modern art and old art, being pro at every style possible, you can do whatever you want
Mostly i think youd get JP people to be happier when your able to draw for them
Thats also the thing about it
And with art its not just “drawing”
If it applies to everything then you can do a good sculpture
Since its still art after all
Everything in the world can be considered art
Exactly
Wait so you are saying that you are a pro in every art
Architects, designs, construction, interior designs
Going by this you could do literally anything and i dont think thats what the poll meant
You can do all this and be super versatile
As long as its considered art
Ronaldinho Gaúcho was a pro footballer, and people called him an artist in football, so it means i coud do the same as him?
No
Thats the thing, its art related not physical
You could dance because it IS art
^
Saying someone is an "artist" doesnt make the activity art
You can design a website because its art
You can design a car since its art
You can design a shoe because its art
Even a Tee or formal clothing
Wait, what about singing?
That doesnt really apply since its in the instrument column
Well the poll said pro level creativity so technically you cant do anything unless you learn it you just have alot of ideas
Hmm ok, i am trying to exploit the options
It means you have alot of creativity
Means you can also create everything efficiently since you have enough creativity
Like example lets say you ran out of paint, so you use everything you have in your arsenal
Hence why the brain guides us for it
To turn it into reality
If you dont know how paint is made the only thing you can do is hope your idea is right
That doesnt make it efficient
Thats if you really ran out of paint and ingredients
If you have for other colors then being creative you are you mix it and get the color yourself
If there isnt any options buy from the store lmao
Ideas dont equal knowledge either
Creativity will also help with that
How
I have experience with it like
I have a design but i dont have the knowledge for it
I try to find loopholes
And eventually you find your own method
And thats called creativity
And if you find the right way to do this said idea then now you have 2 method
This is the same thing for paint. You can have all the ingredients possible in one room and you still wouldnt know whats right and wrong
Communication
With what? An object?
Assuming your friends know what you need to do
They will know and even if they arent correct
You can get the idea
And hence know what to do
Knowing what to do also doesnt mean its right
If its not right it wont work

Thats not how the world works
This is not a deal where you can play with words
Its how humanity developed technology
I have done it and done it already
Ok? If you do it another way it will be different
Means you did not achieve your goal..
If you want paint but make it wrong you have something similar but still not paint
It does not because its not the same
And thats where trial and error comes in
Not everything has to be perfect no?
Art isnt perfect everything stems from imperfections
No but some stuff needs to be made a certain way at all costs
Creativity doesnt mean art
But that also means your stuck in that level
You cant find a way out of it
So your stuck having the same book knowledged method
Bc thats how something is made? If you want to make cement you do not experiment randomly and get a simar substance and call it cement
Bc its not cement
Similar*
Changing the shape of an object is different than creating something from scratch
That applies differently
And i dont mean drawings
Oh?
If not cement theres other alternatives
Another reason why concrete was also made
"If you want to make cement"
But the point is if you want to achieve something try to find something out of it
Which doesnt i make it efficient like you said
Are you implying that if i wanted to make cement but i didnt have the knowledge for it then id start experimenting randomly, it wont be cement?
Then id start experimenting
I never said that but thats most likely the case
Thats how scientists work
Over years
Either they make an alternative by accident or intentional
You would find another way
Alternative --> still not the desired result
Would still be the same