🤬│debate

[bronze coyote]

we dont know how fast,strong,smart or any of the above

he was

[hallow surge]

gyomei abuses douma and makes him piss his pants

[bronze coyote]

judging by your profile im gonna assume this is pure ragebait

[hallow surge]

you agree shinobu outpaced douma right

do you agree Gyomei>Kanao who can react and adapt to douma's attacks

[hallow surge]

and you agree Gyomei is much stronger than Shinobu

[bronze coyote]

douma wasnt trying at all be so fr

you do not go from dodging to getting blitzed in 2 panels

also, put gyomei against 6 of doumas children + douma im pretty sure gyomei is getting oneshotted

[heady nacelle]

This can’t be real right?

[bronze coyote]

which one

[heady nacelle]

Did he fr say gyomei beats douma in a 1v1?

[bronze coyote]

just look at his acc

"the life of an eboy"

[heady nacelle]

The only homosexual approved and loved by god…?

I don’t discriminate but-

That’s kinda self glazing don’t you think?

[bronze coyote]

the life on eboy bro

[tough jungle]

i didnt read the manga

THIS IS HOW KOKU DIES?

😆

i did not expect that

bruh

also

[heady nacelle]

Too strong to lose fairly

[tough jungle]

mm - akaza too

[heady nacelle]

Kokushibo was a different breed

You’ll see

[tough jungle]

any idea when part 2 releases?

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[tough jungle]

i think thats what the next one is

inf castle part 2

or sm

[heady nacelle]

2026-7

Fuck

[tough jungle]

lol

mm thats not that long away

hol up ill be done with school by the time it comes out 😢

[dusky roost]

pineburgr You’ve Reached Level 6

[tough jungle]

does the series actually ever enlighten us fully abt yorriichi's past?

cuz there is so much idk

i dont understand why kokushibo would become a demon

if his borther was stronger than his said new master

oh wait

the uh immortality thing

mm

[bronze coyote]

kokushibo didnt want to die at the age of 25 bc of the mark and was also extremely jealous of yoriichi

[tough jungle]

hol up mark kills you early?

[bronze coyote]

its stated in the anime too..

only yoriichi didnt

[tough jungle]

darn bro. it mustve been somewhere were they were jst talking on and on

im pretty impatient so i skip parts a lot

to action

but uh

looks like ive missed out a lot

[bronze coyote]

it was in the hashira training arc i believe

[tough jungle]

he too goated

[tough jungle]

might have to rewatch that bit

does koku have a ds mark?

[bronze coyote]

yes

[heady nacelle]

It’s not..

[bronze coyote]

it is

[heady nacelle]

It’s said in the kokushibo fight

[bronze coyote]

i remember ubuyashikis wife saying it in the hashira meeting too

[heady nacelle]

They censored it with rain

[bronze coyote]

oh ok

[vestal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/oguri-cap-uma-musume-cinderella-gray-eat-eating-gif-6770234904401320070

[tame rampart]

i mean this is the easiest most obvious vote ever

[hallow surge]

A non trying Douma is still Upper 2 level.

Shinobu can outpace Douma on numerous occasions, there is absolutely zero reason to believe Gyomei who is stronger than her will not do the same and beat the shit out of him.

[bronze coyote]

Just an eboy life🌹🌹🌹

[hallow surge]

Are you going to make an argument or are you going to keep trying to ego me

?

[hallow surge]

Just a baseless claim

The dolls that were being reacted to by Kanao and Inosuke

-&/$/):??

[hallow surge]

Yes I did

[dusky roost]

sunflower.sequel You’ve Reached Level 1

[heady nacelle]

I’ll get back to you in a moment kk?

[hallow surge]

Okay

[tough jungle]

😭 🙏 Namu amida butsu 📿

[torpid sierra]

Just vote

[tough jungle]

ez case gng

[torpid sierra]

Just vote

[tough jungle]

dun

did

[torpid sierra]

K

[tough jungle]

ok

[tough jungle]

gng douma was playin with shinobu

[hallow surge]

Douma admits to himself and the audience he can’t read her attack and calls her too fast.

And Douma can’t hold back his reaction time

[tough jungle]

douma dmited she was fast but he didnt really car enough to try

knowing he could easily neutralise her poison

[hallow surge]

Then why did he bother to block her attack

?

[tough jungle]

idk mf was bored ig

[hallow surge]

So you don’t have an argument just baseless assumptions

The concept of demon who can’t feel anything being bored

[tough jungle]

hes emotionless bru

being bored is not an emotion

[tough jungle]

mf ur the one assuming that gyomei can solo douma

[hallow surge]

Douma still has the need to protect himself for life because he eats

[tough jungle]

douma and shinobu is kinda like akaza and rengoku

[hallow surge]

If Douma was not trying or didn’t care he would not have bothered to block Shinobu’s attack

[tough jungle]

from the beggining rengoku stood 0 chance'

[hallow surge]

No I have evidence for my claims

[tough jungle]

but he landed attacks on akaza

[hallow surge]

Ok

What’s ur point

[tough jungle]

mostly because akaza wanted them to hit

cuz he found it fun

[hallow surge]

Here u go

[tough jungle]

same case with doma

[hallow surge]

Why is this the same with Douma

[tough jungle]

he wanted shinbou to try hit him bro

[hallow surge]

If Douma wanted them to hit why did he bother blocking them

[tough jungle]

he literally asked her to go for it

[hallow surge]

Like do you even hear yourself

[hallow surge]

And proceeds to block and clash with her?😭

[glacial wren]

Douma was just toying with her

[tough jungle]

obviously the animators wanted to show us a fight gng

[glacial wren]

He literally was telling her to stop because it’s futile

[tough jungle]

we not sitting thru a match watching shinobu poke at someone without being able to kill them

[hallow surge]

At yet Douma still admits Shinobu is faster

[glacial wren]

ummm

[hallow surge]

You aren’t defeating any point

Or proving anything

[glacial wren]

about that

[tough jungle]

im telling u bruv douma is way faster

gng he waas playin

[hallow surge]

Why does he admit that Shinobu is faster on numerous occasions

[tough jungle]

he says shes fast not faster

[glacial wren]

We had this debate last night, they’re at similar speeds, like very close

[hallow surge]

You yourself say Douma is emotionless, he has absolutely zero reason to lie

[hallow surge]

Is that why he struggled to block her attacks and fails to hit Shinobu during Hundred legged zigzag

?

[tough jungle]

dawg it means he doesnt have any real sympathy. not some debate between being thruthful or not

[hallow surge]

Why would Douma lie to himself

He admits

In his own head

Shinobu was too fast

[dusky roost]

sunflower.sequel You’ve Reached Level 2

[tough jungle]

she is fast

[hallow surge]

And he could not predict her attack

[tough jungle]

like veyr fast

but not faster

[hallow surge]

“Too fast! I can’t predict her attack!”

Like what are you talking about

[tough jungle]

im intersted in hearing why gyomei is stronger though

[glacial wren]

he also states that she’s the fastest hashira he’s fought

[tough jungle]

shinobu is the fastest hashira

[hallow surge]

No she isn’t

[tough jungle]

followed by giyu i think

[hallow surge]

It’s Gyomei

[glacial wren]

yeah

[glacial wren]

yeah she is

[tough jungle]

mf what

[glacial wren]

She is the fastes hashira

[tough jungle]

this some A level gyomei glaze goin on

[hallow surge]

Do you agree Gyomei>Shinobu

[tough jungle]

yes

[glacial wren]

Tengen is the fastest hashira in running speed, but shinobu is the fastest overall

[tough jungle]

mm

giyu is also very fast

in attacks and stuff

[glacial wren]

true, but she is the fastest in swordskills and fighting

[tough jungle]

mm shes the fastest

[glacial wren]

Just waiting for sunflower to drop

🍿🍿🍿

[tough jungle]

she's extremely close to upper 3 and above speed

but not faster

[hallow surge]

Gyomei shows much better attack speed feats than Shinobu. Speed is the most important factor in battles in DS. Gyomei is narratively superior to all Pillars, Shinobu herself admits inferiority to Gyomei

[glacial wren]

no, douma can dodge akaza’s attacks

[tough jungle]

ik i meant all upper ranks 3 and above are faster than shinobu

[hallow surge]

If you believe Shinobu is faster than Gyomei, then you must agree that she could also clash with Base Kokushibo

[tough jungle]

gyomei is sooo obsiously stronger than shinobu

[glacial wren]

yeah, no sh!t sherlock. He’s the strongest hashira.

[tough jungle]

shinbou out there is the weakest hashira

[hallow surge]

So you agree

You agree Gyomei is faster

😭

[tough jungle]

YES I AGREE I NEVER SAID GYOMEI WAS NOT STRON

[glacial wren]

and yet she almost solo’d our boi douna where it took for DS for koku

[hallow surge]

^

[tough jungle]

MF STRENGTH VS SPEEEEDDDDDDDDDDD

SPEEEEEEDDDD

STREGNTHHHHH

[glacial wren]

no he’s not omfg. He’s the strongest but not the fastest

[tough jungle]

AHSABIKJCNK;ASJC;KSDHILBCJHSD

CHDSJKHCBSDJHLBCLJS

[hallow surge]

Speed is the most important factor in DS

[tough jungle]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[hallow surge]

^

[glacial wren]

Not all the time

[hallow surge]

Why would it not apply in this situation

[tough jungle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA gyomei is fast but not faster than shinbou how frickin hard is this to understand 😭

[hallow surge]

Again, If you believe Shinobu is faster than Gyomei, then you must agree that she could also clash with Base Kokushibo

[tough jungle]

MFS A WHOLE GODDAMN TANK

[glacial wren]

bruh kokushibo is faster then gyomei, and would be wayyy faster then shinobu. Neither of them beat him

[tough jungle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HELPPPP

[hallow surge]

Gyomei can react to attacks from Base Kokushibo and block them and clash with him

If you agree Shinobu>Gyomei in speed then she can do the same

LMAO

[glacial wren]

If you believe zenitsu is faster then akaza, then you must admit that murata is too

like what??

[hallow surge]

What is this logic

That is not my point

[glacial wren]

that doesn’t mean anything bruh

[tough jungle]

dawg kokushibo is way faster than both shinbou and gyomei

and shinbou has very less attack strength to clash with koku

[hallow surge]

Gyomei reacts and blocks to attacks with Base Kokushibo

[glacial wren]

yeah and it took 3 hashira and genya to kill him

[hallow surge]

Okay?😭 Gyomei still reacts and blocks attacks from Base Kokushibo

[glacial wren]

bruh all the upper ranks just toy with them instead of going all out, ofc he blocks 1’s attacks. He aint locked in

[glacial wren]

rengoku blocks akaza’s attacks at base form

[tough jungle]

none of the upper ranks start out locked in

[glacial wren]

still doesn’t win

[hallow surge]

Okay what’s ur point

I’m not saying Gyomei is faster than Kokushibo

I’m saying they have relative speed

?

[tough jungle]

from the beggining rengoku never even had a chance. the attacks he landed on akaza (not counting 9th form) were only bcos akaza wanted him to

[tough jungle]

not koku

maybe doma

but not koku

[hallow surge]

Yes they do

[glacial wren]

it’s the same thing. They can block all they want because the ranks aren’t trying.

[hallow surge]

Gyomei in base reacts to attacks from Kokushibo

[glacial wren]

exactly

[hallow surge]

Prove that Koku was not trying against Base Gyomei

[tough jungle]

only christ can save you now ✝️ 🙏

[glacial wren]

yeah he can react to his attacks at the time. And then koku gets faster and he can’t read it until gyomei unlocks the transparrent world

[hallow surge]

Yeah I don’t care this is irrelevant because I’m talking about specifically Base Gyomei against Kokushibo

[glacial wren]

then he still loses

[hallow surge]

He reacts and blocks to his attacks, and clashes with him. Kokushibo praises him for his skills, Base Gyomei is low relative to Base Kokushibo

[hallow surge]

Ok

😭?

[glacial wren]

mf what is your point then???

[hallow surge]

My point is Gyomei>Shinobu ~ Douma

[glacial wren]

it depends tho. Shinobu was heavily weakened from the very start

[hallow surge]

Gyomei shows much better overall combat speed feats than Shinobu

[hallow surge]

Whatever she was fast enough to outpace Douma on numerous occasions

[glacial wren]

exactly

[glacial wren]

bruh where you going

[hallow surge]

Gyomei, who Shinobu admits inferiority to and narrative obviously supports, further supported by his feats is faster than this Shinobu who outpaced Douma

[dusky roost]

sunflower.sequel You’ve Reached Level 3

[tough jungle]

all urs gng

[glacial wren]

lol u just watching?

[tough jungle]

i shall watch from the sidelines

[tough jungle]

i have given up

i have unlocked the transparent world

the selfless state

i have enlightened myself

[glacial wren]

so you’re just saying that becuase gyomei is better then shinobu, he could beat douma?

[tough jungle]

so i know im better than base kokushibo

[glacial wren]

is that your point?

[tough jungle]

and faster than shinobu

[glacial wren]

Real

also wild that a blind guy can see the TW

[tough jungle]

lowk tho, i reckon i could solo him

[tough jungle]

LOL

TRU ACTUALL

[glacial wren]

also i don’t believe gyomei could kill douma either. Imo all upper three ranks won’t die from just cutting off their heads as shown by akaza and kokushibo

[glacial wren]

bro just left

[glacial wren]

bro left and had enough

[heady nacelle]

What’s going on?

[glacial wren]

Read what’s been said

[heady nacelle]

I just came back

Too much reading simplify it pretty please

[glacial wren]

basically sunflower is saying gyomei beats douma

[heady nacelle]

Idk about that

What’s the argument

[glacial wren]

exactly

[heady nacelle]

What’s the argument they’re giving?

[glacial wren]

.

[heady nacelle]

She’s not though

[hallow surge]

I went to make dinner

[heady nacelle]

Welcome back what you eating

[glacial wren]

exactly

[hallow surge]

Duh

[glacial wren]

not even base gyomei is stonger the 1

[glacial wren]

yeah no that doesn’t work

[heady nacelle]

Hol up let’s all calm down

I’m here to figure this out

[hallow surge]

Shinobu outpaced Douma and he admits he would have beaten him with her speed

[heady nacelle]

Okay let’s clear things up

[hallow surge]

Here we go

[heady nacelle]

When you say outpaced you mean she literally was faster than him?

[hallow surge]

Yes

[glacial wren]

They’re about the same speed

[heady nacelle]

Okay there’s the issue, and it’s valid I can clear it up

Douma is way way faster than Shinobu

Ima tell you why

[hallow surge]

Wrong answer

But go on

[heady nacelle]

Simply the right answer give me some time dude ;-;

[glacial wren]

lol

[heady nacelle]

Douma showed superiority in speed multiple times in their fight, first was when she failed to save that girl, second was him managing to slash her right after she hit him with the dragonfly ability

Let me give you context

The only reason why Shinobu was able to even hit douma was her precision, and her catching him off guard multiple times and I can explain it in deep detail if you’d like

[glacial wren]

Valid points

[heady nacelle]

I have to go in like 7 minutes so i might come back after a minute

But ima hear them out

[glacial wren]

Yeah i had this debate last night. She might not have been faster then him but she was unpredictable. She was to fast to predict her attacks

[heady nacelle]

She’s unpredictable and very precise

[glacial wren]

yeah

[hallow surge]

That girl inhaled her BDA which is why she died. Douma’s BDA was stated by Shinobu it was cold enough to make one burst.

She was tagged by Douma only after being nerfed by his BDA and undergoing necrosis. This was the only time Douma could hit Shinobu

Douma comments on her speed thrice and admits with her speed her could have defeated him

[glacial wren]

bruh her lungs were filling up with blood. Also he broke her back

[hallow surge]

Okay

[heady nacelle]

I don’t recall the bda being able to split a person in 4s just by inhaling it

And to reply about the last comment

[hallow surge]

Well it happened there so

[glacial wren]

it didn’t….

[hallow surge]

It did, the girl struggled to breathe and there was no blood on Douma’s fans

[heady nacelle]

He said “only if she was a bit stronger, she’d be able to beat him” speed wasn’t mentioned unless I’m missing smth

[hallow surge]

Speed was mentioned

[glacial wren]

also he mentioned that she was weaker then her sister

[glacial wren]

show the panel

[heady nacelle]

I can show you the panel once I’m home, his bda doesn’t split people in parts

[heady nacelle]

Douma already showed superiority in speed multiple times I already told you ;-; the necrosis isn’t gonna slow her down

[glacial wren]

because it was freezing her lungs. She was going through necrosis

[hallow surge]

Douma states “If you’re that fast, you might have beaten me.”

[heady nacelle]

I’ll look at the manga panel later

[hallow surge]

The necrosis slowed her down, she was getting tired

[glacial wren]

necrosis did slow her down a bit actually

[heady nacelle]

That’s good cope but it’s just not what happened, douma is faster and I’ve yet to give you my reasons

[heady nacelle]

If that was actually the case she would’ve landed zero hits

[glacial wren]

her lungs were partially frozen. Dk how long but her lungs were going through necrosis, which means she couldn’t breath efficiently.

[hallow surge]

She landed hits before getting hit by his BDA, it started fully affecting her as she did Compoud eye Hexagon

She could not breathe properly that would obviously affect her reaction speed

[heady nacelle]

The only hit she landed was a hit that was precise, not faster

Alr I gotta brb

[glacial wren]

and even with all the hits she made, douma countered with his own attacks that landed

[heady nacelle]

I’ll talk about this in a min

[glacial wren]

no worries

[hallow surge]

Douma admits he could not block it with his hand and calls the strike fast. No matter how precise it is she needs the speed to tag him. If Douma was miles faster than Shinobu why did he not bifurcate her with first slash of Frozen Lotus which she dodged at point blank

[glacial wren]

again he was caught off guard. But that still adds to his point with being precise. She is the fastest hashira in terms of agility and combat speed, so yeah she can mae extrememly fast strikes, which is the only thing she did. And again he was toying with her, if he wanted to he would have just killed her on the spot. He basically let her give it her all and he commended her on that.

It’s the exact same with rengoku and akaza. He was matching rengoku’s speed and attacks because he wanted to see him give his all before he ended it. If he wanted to finish it he would have with a breeze

[hallow surge]

“If he wanted to” why does he not

Douma has zero reason not to

Douma has more reasons than not to instantly kill Shinobu instead of “toying” with her

[heady nacelle]

I feel as if you’re missing douma’s character

I’m back

[hallow surge]

He does not feel anything what does he gain from for toying with Shinobu

[heady nacelle]

Douma could careless if he loses

[heady nacelle]

You’re forgetting the fact that he fakes his emotions to fit in

But ima get something out of the way necrosis or not, douma is way faster than shinobu, only was hit because she’s so precise and got him off guard twice

Idk what’s so hard to understand

[hallow surge]

Precision still requires speed to hit him

[heady nacelle]

If she was outpacing him AT ALL, she would’ve saved that girl, hit him multiple times and won’t get hit once

That’s just how it is unfortunately

[hallow surge]

And no matter how hard Douma is holding back he can’t hold back his reaction speed

[glacial wren]

Omfg yes she is fast but not faster then douma. He wasn’t expecting the first strike

[hallow surge]

He attempts to block it and she was standing right in front of him

[heady nacelle]

The only ability that even mentions reaction speed is her final ability, and he wasn’t able to “predict” it

Because it’s unpredictable

[hallow surge]

Douma then gets hits 6 times offscreen and we see in the movie she bypasses his defenses

[hallow surge]

Douma needs reaction speed to block and react to attacks-&/$$//??

[heady nacelle]

Didn’t he quite literally say “I can’t wait, try more of your poison”?

[hallow surge]

What is u tammat

[glacial wren]

cool he caught her off guard. Then after that he countered every hit she did

[hallow surge]

He still tried to block and attacks her

[heady nacelle]

Because he’s toying her? ;-;

[hallow surge]

And he says out his on motivate that with her speed she would have beaten her

[bronze coyote]

Not really a baseless claim, douma said hes able to create 6 of his children who are as strong as him just a bit weaker, he can just spam bda and create them.
Gyomei is getting smoked stop the riding

[hallow surge]

Douma has zero reason to “toy” with Shinobu who is a pillar he wants to eat

[heady nacelle]

He has enough reaction speed to react to kokushibo’s perception blitz back in swordsmtih village arc in the manga what exactly is your point?

[hallow surge]

Gyomei is stronger than Douma and humiliated those clones so

[heady nacelle]

So you just don’t understand his character

[hallow surge]

He did not react to that

[bronze coyote]

Douma has 0 reason to smule or cry but he does it anyway surprise

[hallow surge]

How so

[heady nacelle]

Go check if you’d like

[hallow surge]

Why would he toy with someone when he gains no satisfaction from it

[bronze coyote]

Yes surely 6 clones doing bodhisattva will surely make gyomei become yoriichi

[hallow surge]

Douma is a very logical person

[heady nacelle]

The only friendly and psychopathic uppermoon (besides gyokko) has no reason to toy with someone he KNOWS is weaker than him?

[hallow surge]

The clones that were reacted to by Kanao and Inosuke

[heady nacelle]

I sense a douma hater…

[bronze coyote]

A single clone has been stated to be holding them back??

[hallow surge]

Douma is not psychopathic

Lmao

[heady nacelle]

Okay that’s where I leave

Yall can handle this

[hallow surge]

Define psychopathy

[glacial wren]

he is

[hallow surge]

Rn

[bronze coyote]

if he was being logical he wouldve oneshotted kanao and inosuke and went to help kokushibo

Instead of toy with them

For no reason

[glacial wren]

i got work, i’ll be back

[heady nacelle]

I clearly have no reason to be here after realizing what I’m talking to :(

[bronze coyote]

Bro the profile shouldve told you everything

I js debate bc i like to type

[heady nacelle]

I don’t judge people like that tho

[bronze coyote]

Ok but its pretty obvious his profile is pure ragebait

[hallow surge]

And regardless prove the clones would be the first thing Douma starts with

😭

He gets blitzed anyways

[bronze coyote]

If douma knew gyomei was "stronger" than him give me a reason he wouldnt? Since hes so logical that would be a pretty logical conclusion

[hallow surge]

Also if he is toying with her why does he bother blocking her attacks

[heady nacelle]

Are you serious or are you ragebaiting?

Genuine question

[bronze coyote]

This shouldnt be a question mate

[hallow surge]

You just claimed yourself Douma knew she was weaker

Why does he bother blocking and dodging attacks from her

If he knew she was weaker

?

[bronze coyote]

Ragebaiting

[hallow surge]

No answer?

Aww

[hallow surge]

They way zero people have answered this question anytime I ask

[dusky roost]

sunflower.sequel You’ve Reached Level 4

[hallow surge]

Why does Douma bother blocking attacks from someone he knows he’s weaker than

[bronze coyote]

Youre talking to yourself atp

[hallow surge]

So you have no argument

So you lose

Next

[heady nacelle]

Bro it’s not even about losing or winning here..

This is so sad

[hallow surge]

It’s a debate?

Let’s have a smart day today

[heady nacelle]

Not for me, I’m tryna help you understand smth but you have insane coping mechanisms

[bronze coyote]

We arent debating to "win" we are debating to make facts

And come to conclusions we undeniably have to agree

[heady nacelle]

“Why would douma toy”

[hallow surge]

Also do Douma is miles faster why does he say “With your speed you might have beaten me”

[hallow surge]

So are you going to answer question

[heady nacelle]

I already did but you’re so blinded by cope

[hallow surge]

No you did not

At all

[bronze coyote]

Right after blitzing her it was clearly ragebait bc he didnt even use his strong moves

[hallow surge]

After nerfing her with his BDA

Also Douma has zero reason to lie

😭

[bronze coyote]

He also has zero reason to live to smile to be angry or to fight at all

[heady nacelle]

Bro just stop replying they’re too stubborn

[hallow surge]

Ur point

[bronze coyote]

I have nothing to do

[hallow surge]

Douma has zero reason to lie to Shinobu

Because he gains nothing from it

And there is a statement from his own head to his own self he can’t keep up with Shinobu’s speed in hundred legged zigzag

[bronze coyote]

Shinobu 2 panels before getting told she might have won

[hallow surge]

After being nerfed by his BDA yeah

Hellooo

[heady nacelle]

Wait I lost the point of the main topic

[bronze coyote]

You should probably wake up

Necrosis to your lungs doesnt make your vision worse

Hiiii

[heady nacelle]

If his bda nerfs people then how’s gyomei unlocking mark and red blade against douma?

[bronze coyote]

True tho

[hallow surge]

Yes it fucking does it affects your reaction speed

[heady nacelle]

Since it nerfs people

[bronze coyote]

She didnt even see him how is she reacting in the first place

[hallow surge]

Gyomei isn’t getting hit by his BDA lol

[heady nacelle]

Istg if he comes up with more cope

Yeah it’s so over for bro

[hallow surge]

…because her reaction speed is lowered

What kind of circular argument is this

[heady nacelle]

He thinks you need to be hit by it to be nerfed :(

[bronze coyote]

Ah yes the reaction speed to an attack she couldnt even see

[hallow surge]

Circluar argument of doom holy shit

She didn’t react because her r.speed was lowered

😭

[hallow surge]

This is literally ur argument

[heady nacelle]

I thought you said her speed , now you’re saying reaction speed?

[hallow surge]

I said her reaction speed was lowered

Idk when I said that

[heady nacelle]

This is new

[hallow surge]

Hell in fact her overall speed was lowered

She was struggling to breathe do you not expect that to lower your reaction speed

[bronze coyote]

"She couldnt react anyway because she didnt see the attack coming at all" "YES BUT HER REACTION SPEED!"

[hallow surge]

?

This is not what I said

At all

I will hold your hand with a napkin

And explain it

Slowly

Shinobu

Did not

React

To Douma’s slash

Because

Her reaction speed

Was lowered

By his BDA

[heady nacelle]

And how’d she get hit?

Since you wanna be stubborn

How’d she get hit?

[hallow surge]

Because she inhaled his BDA

[bronze coyote]

Does doumas bda suddenly make your eyes also suffer so that your perception lowers or what

[heady nacelle]

Nah nah how’d she get hit?

[hallow surge]

She dodged the slash itself and inhaled the cold air

[heady nacelle]

In the beginning when she “blitzed him” how’d she not outpace it?

You’re not answering it bro

[hallow surge]

Yes it does because that’s what necrosis does

[hallow surge]

I did not say she blitzed him lol

[bronze coyote]

Necrosis to lungs suddenly connects to your eyes- got it..

[heady nacelle]

She wasn’t able to outpace the attack and get out of the range

[hallow surge]

I made sure to use my wording correctly I said she outpaced him

[heady nacelle]

Never said you did

[heady nacelle]

She outpaced him but got hit by his bda

??

[hallow surge]

She dodged the slash himself but inhaled the cold air because it’s a wide area of effect

[heady nacelle]

Is this real? @bronze coyote

[hallow surge]

^

[heady nacelle]

how did she get hit by his bda

Still can’t answer it correctly

[hallow surge]

I just explained it

[hallow surge]

^

[bronze coyote]

She inhaled his bda which counts as getting hit by it

[heady nacelle]

I’m not saying slash I’m saying bda read closely bub

Exactly

How’d she get hit by his bda?

[hallow surge]

The slash I’m referring to is Frozen Lotus technique

[bronze coyote]

Inhaling

[hallow surge]

?

[bronze coyote]

Exhaling

[heady nacelle]

And why was she hit? Because he’s faster

[hallow surge]

That was when she got affected

[heady nacelle]

Please end this talk

[hallow surge]

No she dodged the attack

LOL

And reacted to it

[heady nacelle]

Bro omg….

[hallow surge]

She only inhaled the cold air

[heady nacelle]

This dude has to be a bot

[hallow surge]

Because it’s a wide area of effect

[bronze coyote]

No shit but honestly inhaling frozen crystals isnt really a speed feat

[heady nacelle]

Nah because he believes she’s faster she would’ve been toying with douma

[hallow surge]

Lord

[heady nacelle]

I’m tryna find a reason behind their brain

[hallow surge]

Another napkin as I hold your hand

[bronze coyote]

Yes shinobu surely was toying with douma

[dusky roost]

umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 8

[heady nacelle]

Ikr?

[hallow surge]

She dodged Frozen Lotus slash

And inhaled the cold air

[heady nacelle]

Because she’s faster so she was toying with him

[hallow surge]

?

[bronze coyote]

We understand your reasons bro but whats your point

[heady nacelle]

His point is that she’s faster

Which is just out the window

[hallow surge]

My point is Shinobu is faster than Douma

[bronze coyote]

Shinobu no yaiba

[hallow surge]

Douma only tags her when she was nerfed

[heady nacelle]

💀

[hallow surge]

She inhaled his BDA because it was a wide area of effect

[heady nacelle]

Because he’s faster….

He tagged her because he’s faster..

[hallow surge]

^

[bronze coyote]

Shinobu literally my fav hashira and ill die saying she beats uzui but shes not faster than douma bro

[hallow surge]

She dodged Frozen Lotus

[vestal sable]

All this for mid

[heady nacelle]

She didn’t even realize she was hit until the slash was on her body..

[hallow surge]

She inhaled the frozen air

[vestal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/broken-heart-black-gif-8458895806284856626

[hallow surge]

I feel like I’m talking in circles

[heady nacelle]

Wait are you a girl

[hallow surge]

I’m talking about the SPECIFIC time when she inhaled his BDA

[bronze coyote]

You could always... stop!

[hallow surge]

Which was at the start of the battle

We literally see she dodged Frozen Lotus but inhaled the cold air

[heady nacelle]

Shinobu was tagged by douma because he’s faster + didn’t even realize she was hit until the slash was on her chest

End of discussion bro

[hallow surge]

Once again

Because she was nerfed by his BDA

Speaking of stubborn

[heady nacelle]

She couldn’t even save the girl before she was “nerfed”

All you bro

[hallow surge]

Again

The girl inhaled Douma’s BDA

[bronze coyote]

I feel like youre saying again alot

[heady nacelle]

Douma just superior in speed

[hallow surge]

There is no blood on Douma’s fans

[bronze coyote]

[heady nacelle]

It’s just that hard to accept when you’re watching Shinobu no yaiba

[hallow surge]

Why does he state That with Shinobu’s speed she would have won

[bronze coyote]

Then why didnt shinobu explode

What

[bronze coyote]

Mocking

[hallow surge]

Because she’s more durable than the woman and uses breathing styles

[heady nacelle]

Proceeds to say “oh! But you’re too weak anyway haha!” Right after

Just to lyk

[hallow surge]

Douma has zero reasons to mock or lie to Shinobu

[bronze coyote]

Breathing styles with decaying lungs must be very powerful

[hallow surge]

So you agree that Shinobu was nerfed by the BDA

LOL

[bronze coyote]

Douma also had 0 reasons to mock her while killing her and he still did

[hallow surge]

He did not mock her

[heady nacelle]

That’s like saying gyokko had zero reason to leave muichiro in the water bubble, but then did it anyway

[bronze coyote]

Do i really have to grab the manga panel are you this dense

[heady nacelle]

Like bro your claims have zero get backs

[hallow surge]

He had reason to leave Mui in the water bubble because he states himself he likes to watch the opponent die a slow death

[heady nacelle]

Again zero reason

[hallow surge]

Not the same because Douma gains nothing from mocking her

[bronze coyote]

Yes his bda literally oneshots everyone when he touches them- ironic

[hallow surge]

?

[heady nacelle]

Bro fr just said “he likes to watch slow death” but then says the only demon who mocks and rage baits has zero reason to do it 😭

I’m so done

[hallow surge]

Gyokko and Douma are not the same person

[bronze coyote]

No keep talking with this guy its funny

[hallow surge]

Douma is emotionless and gains nothing from lying

Or mocking

[bronze coyote]

Then why does he smile

[hallow surge]

This shitty ass argument

LMAO

[bronze coyote]

Why did he fake crying for akazas death??

[hallow surge]

Sanemi smiled when fighting Kokushibo

[heady nacelle]

Bro it’s so bad

[hallow surge]

😭😭😭

[heady nacelle]

You realize we’re both talking bout you right?

[hallow surge]

Rengoku smiled fighting Akaza

[bronze coyote]

Its your same argument just thrown back st u

[heady nacelle]

Bro did NOT smile fighting Akaza

[hallow surge]

Tanjiro smiled while fighting Hantengu clones

[bronze coyote]

At

[heady nacelle]

Until he knew he was bout to die

[hallow surge]

Yes he did he smiled when he used 9th form

Sanemi smiled against Kokushibo

[heady nacelle]

Exactly what I just said

[hallow surge]

Was he holding back

[glacial wren]

omg ya’ll are still going???

[heady nacelle]

Using your logic do they have any reason to smile while fighting?

[hallow surge]

Inosuke damn near smiles in every fight he is in

[bronze coyote]

The guy is ssying alot of agains and refuses to give up im having a great time

[heady nacelle]

“They enjoy fighting” is his answer

[glacial wren]

i can tell you poor thing

[hallow surge]

Not the same logic because they experience human emotions and Douma does not😂

[bronze coyote]

Bc inosuke literally has the IQ of a wild animal

[heady nacelle]

Mocking and ragebaiting takes emotion?!

[hallow surge]

Douma feels nothing so he gains no satisfaction from fighting. He only wants strength

[bronze coyote]

Stated where

[heady nacelle]

How many times do I say he fakes them…

omg finally on pc

holy shit

[hallow surge]

Rocks for brain

LOL

[heady nacelle]

you're one to talk brother

[hallow surge]

Douma eats women specifically because he gets stronger quickly

[bronze coyote]

Yes but he doesnt have any reason to! He has no emotionsssss

[hallow surge]

He does not fight for enjoyment he fights to get stronger. Shinobu stated that Douma would not hesistate to eat a woman especially one that is a Pillar

[dusky roost]

sunflower.sequel You’ve Reached Level 5

[heady nacelle]

where's your first claim stated?

[hallow surge]

You are misunderstanding my argument and making a circular point

[glacial wren]

he also does it because it pisses akaza off

[bronze coyote]

Are you actuslly realising how stupid you sound? Amazing

[heady nacelle]

he's quite literally I think the only demon who fights for enjoyment

what are we on about?

[vestal sable]

All this for mid 😔

[heady nacelle]

bro if you're a guy I'm kissing your cheek 😔

[glacial wren]

what even are his points anymore? I remeber him saying that gyomei beats akaza but idk what’s going on anymore

[hallow surge]

Douma does not feel joy so why would he fight for enjoyment

😭

[heady nacelle]

why would he feel the need to get stronger??

💀

you're the one going in circles

he doesn't feel anything, he became a demon because he's generally pyschopathic

[bronze coyote]

Going by this douma emotions argument douma literslly should have died as a child bc he had "no reason to" do anything

[heady nacelle]

he never felt anything when his parents died

he has zero empathy, he manipulates, and he always has a sense of himself

[hallow surge]

Because his character is that he believes he gains a true identity via strength

[heady nacelle]

say he's not a pyschopath

[glacial wren]

it’s also just jis demonic nature and survival instinct to get stronger too

[heady nacelle]

you're confusing him with akaza

[bronze coyote]

Stated where..

[hallow surge]

No im not

[heady nacelle]

he never wants to get stronger, that's akaza

[hallow surge]

By reading and analyzing his character LMAO

[glacial wren]

nonono wrong. He just doesn’t care. He doesn’t care abt anything, life and death are meaningless to him. Even his own

[vestal sable]

https://tenor.com/view/uoh-sob-emoji-crying-cry-gif-13917329750550678969

[hallow surge]

Yes he does that’s why he eats women?

[heady nacelle]

he only cares about literally himself, he has a whole cult that he later eats the women in

what are you on about

[heady nacelle]

no he eats women because he generally finds them more delicious

💀

[glacial wren]

it pisses akaza off he eats mainly women

[heady nacelle]

that's literally why his nature is so pyschopathic and why he's so hated

keep proving that point

[hallow surge]

Douma craves and wants to feel human emotions, he believes he will gain a true identity through strength

[heady nacelle]

stated and shown literally nowhere

[bronze coyote]

totally not mocking

[hallow surge]

No he states that Women have more nutritional value

[heady nacelle]

he talked about that to akaza, not randomly

[bronze coyote]

douma does indeed prefer women because he thinks theyre more nutritious

[heady nacelle]

he told akaza that HE should eat women because they're more nutritious

[hallow surge]

This is not mocking, Douma truly believes this is how he shows pity

[heady nacelle]

yes

I know

[hallow surge]

You are the one misunderstanding his character

[heady nacelle]

you're on something I just can't prove it

[bronze coyote]

this is literally mocking "that was great" while hes about to break her bones is not pity

[heady nacelle]

you literally said he wasn't a pyschopath and that he wants strength 🥹

[hallow surge]

Douma pities humans and that’s why he eats them, he believes he is saving them from eating them

[heady nacelle]

uh okay?

I don't see the argument here

you're tryna say douma wasn't mocking?

[bronze coyote]

him proving he was mocking

[hallow surge]

Yes

[heady nacelle]

when he mocked shinobu and ttried ragebaiting her multiple times

[heady nacelle]

even here admitted he was tryna taunt

[hallow surge]

This was against Kanao

[bronze coyote]

still mocking

doesnt matter

[heady nacelle]

but he has zero reason to taunt tho-!!!

[bronze coyote]

exactly!

[heady nacelle]

he has zero reason to toy with them!

[bronze coyote]

wasnt shinobu also playing with douma

[hallow surge]

He wants Kanao to fight him, that is his reasoning

[hallow surge]

When the hell did I say this

[heady nacelle]

bro you're cope is actually impressive

holy

[heady nacelle]

yeah she was because she's faster 😔

[bronze coyote]

he already knows kanao will fight him there is no reason to taunt her further

[hallow surge]

No you are just being ignorant lmao

[heady nacelle]

the point there was that he literally taunts and ragebaits

and I'm the ignorant one? 💀

[hallow surge]

? He is trying to make Kanao slip up to inhale his ice

[heady nacelle]

whatever helps you sleep at night bub

[glacial wren]

Bruh

[heady nacelle]

yeah this is genuinely a ragebait account I'm convinced

[hallow surge]

And regardless why does Douma admit in his own head Shinobu is too fast

[hallow surge]

No you’re just slow

Lmao

[glacial wren]

omg i cant make a link

[bronze coyote]

more mocking

[heady nacelle]

bro you got 3 people disagreeing with you right now, you have to be on something

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 11

[bronze coyote]

surely amazing to oneshot someone

[heady nacelle]

and taunting

[heady nacelle]

but apparently I'm the slow one bro

this is sad news 😔

[bronze coyote]

the life of an eboy 🌹

[heady nacelle]

I think we're talking to a shinobu glazer...

wait

is that a shinobu glazer?

i haven't met one yet

[bronze coyote]

not really

[heady nacelle]

uh oh

pineburger is typing

[bronze coyote]

turkey man

[dusty cloud]

What’s happening

[tough jungle]

mm, not sure it might be the case with doma. Aka just had sheer willpower to keep fighting because of his past. Doma without any strong emotions wouldnt have the willpower.

[heady nacelle]

YOOO

HOW ARE YOU BRO

[dusty cloud]

YOOO

IM GREAT HBU

[heady nacelle]

I'M GOOD MAN

[glacial wren]

read the fandom on douma. I’m trying to paste the link but it won’t work. It explains so much there bruh

[dusty cloud]

THATS WONDERFUL TO KNOW BRO

[bronze coyote]

"The Fate Of Sunflower" gets proven wrong while disagreeing with 3 people and then cries that we are all stupid and stubborn

[heady nacelle]

LISTEN I HAVEN'T MET YOU BEFORE BUT WE'RE MUTUALS WITH SOMEONE

[dusty cloud]

ITS BEEN AWHILE

😂

[heady nacelle]

ITS BEEN A WHILE FR

[dusty cloud]

😭❔

[glacial wren]

We’ll never know but it’s possible

[bronze coyote]

the wiki is not reliable for anything other than story

[heady nacelle]

bruh

[bronze coyote]

and some parts may be typed wrong too

[tough jungle]

bruh

[tough jungle]

ye

[glacial wren]

well that’s what i’m showing tho. His personality is explained in it.

but anyway. What even was his point tho??? Like what was his argument that lead to all this?

[glacial wren]

real

[bronze coyote]

that gyomei beats douma

[heady nacelle]

it was whether gyomei can beat douma, we moved on the shinobu being faster than douma

[bronze coyote]

bc shinobu is faster than douma and gyomei is stronger than her

[heady nacelle]

then it randomly drifted to whether douma mocks or not

[glacial wren]

oh no i don’t think he does

[heady nacelle]

yeah bro shinobu lowk toyed with douma

[glacial wren]

yeah wild.

[bronze coyote]

yes i agree

her getting absorbed was part of the playing

[tough jungle]

huh what. hol up wha?

[glacial wren]

but then he was also saying base gyomei blocks koku’s attacks. Trying to say that he was faster then shinobu. Like huh??

[heady nacelle]

lowk though props for shinobu for sacrificing

[heady nacelle]

just a joke lol

[tough jungle]

oh thank god

[glacial wren]

real tho.

[bronze coyote]

gyomei was faster than shinobu

[heady nacelle]

I'm too knowledged on demon slayer to say smth like that

[glacial wren]

in different sextions tho. She was the fastest in agility and sword skills

[bronze coyote]

btw even the fandom refers to him as a mocking monster with little to no respect for others feelings

it was in no way shape or form pity

it was pure mockery

disguised as pity

[glacial wren]

excatly, what i was trying to show

[dusky roost]

jamie_476 You’ve Reached Level 14

[bronze coyote]

she was agile bc of her small body but gyomei easily surpasses her in speed

[glacial wren]

omg 14

what kind if speed? Like attacking or running etc.?

[bronze coyote]

running speed hes faster (base)

attack speed hes also faster

bc he was able to react to kokushibos attack and react properly

excluding the fact kokushibo was cheating by enlarging his sword

[glacial wren]

true true.

[bronze coyote]

@hallow surge are you gathering evidence for your claims or are you crying in a corner bc nobody agrees with you

[glacial wren]

But she was the fastest in agility and her swordsman ship was just unparraelled too

[glacial wren]

lmao u tell him

[bronze coyote]

her swordsman ship is automatically higher bc gyomei doesnt have a sword.. lol

[glacial wren]

i also read that gyomeis fasest consecutively but shinbu is fasest with short bursts

[glacial wren]

well yeah but that’s not my point lol

[bronze coyote]

in technique with their weapons gyomei and mitsuri are top tier

[glacial wren]

anyway, i’m trying to find the data book online. Not to debate but just learn

but anyone else have any takes we could debate? I’m at work and bored

[bronze coyote]

i dont really have any crazy take

[glacial wren]

fair fair

[bronze coyote]

is there any hashira other than tengen who realistically isnt beating daki and gyutaro??

[glacial wren]

besides shinobu?

[bronze coyote]

shinobu blitzes both

[glacial wren]

really? How so

u reckon her poisens enough for both?

[bronze coyote]

if she doesnt act stupid like with douma yes

its gonna be spider sister type of fight

is it even in question shinobu blitzes gyutaro??

also imagine gyutaro getting stunned by one single kunai with like

5 mm of poison

shinobu has 10x that amount per hit

so i believe shes oneshotting them both

[glacial wren]

true but he broke down that poison very quickly. Granted it was a very small dose tho

[bronze coyote]

yes but if a poisoned kunai made him weak enough to not even stand but shinobus made douma cough up blood i believe her poison is 100% enough

[glacial wren]

but the condition is that they need to be beheaded at the same time (not exact ofc). It could just be a constant cylce of one is weak as and then regenerates while the other is being fought?

[tough jungle]

fr

[bronze coyote]

all demons have to be beheaded which is why shinobu made poison out of wisteria-
shes blitzing them the same way douma blitzed her

[tough jungle]

i swear gyutaro is way stronger than upper 5

like way way stronger

[bronze coyote]

based on what feats

[tough jungle]

hol on

[heady nacelle]

aw man :(

[bronze coyote]

before you say muzans statement im gonna stop you right htere

there*

less humanity doesnt make him stronger

just more deadly

bc hes not protecting daki

[glacial wren]

I mean i can def see it be possible, with daki she’s too carefree and can easily get hit. Even a hit to the obi belt would affect her. So i can def see her winning that. With gyutaro tho, it’d be interesting

[bronze coyote]

not really, both gyutaro and daki arent even seeing shinobu coming while getting stabbed

dont overestimate gyutaro and daki

theyre super weak

[glacial wren]

Idk, i’m up in the air about it. But it’s a really good point!

[bronze coyote]

upper moon 6 getting stopped by a kunai with barely any poison on it

kunai that doesnt even kill regular demons

only paralizes

[glacial wren]

I still stand tho that either the author or the animators need to make a spin off show or smth that puts peoples takes and they’ll decide what happesn so it’s concrete

that’d be awesome

[bronze coyote]

honestly most of them are either super accurate or super off

like a character having trash feats but getting put above someone who has greater ones

wouldnt really make sense

zenitsu over inosuke for example- lol

[tough jungle]

so uh muichiro ez soloed 5- tengen neded help to do gyutaro

[dusky roost]

pineburgr You’ve Reached Level 7

[glacial wren]

yeah exactly

[bronze coyote]

thats not

a feat..

also not soloed

[tough jungle]

cmon gyutaro op 😢

[glacial wren]

muichiro is stronger than tengen

[bronze coyote]

imo muichiro is the weakest marked hashira

[glacial wren]

really??

[bronze coyote]

his feats while marked just dont add up to the others

[glacial wren]

well actually no that could make sense

he’s the youngest and had the most potential

[bronze coyote]

i see alot of people putting him above mitsuri but mitsuri has shown greater feats than him

so for me it makes no sense

[glacial wren]

such as?

[bronze coyote]

base muichiro almost died to gyokko meanwhile mitsuri was about to no diff zohakuten

against kokushibo muichiro got oneshotted

[glacial wren]

well muichiro probably would have done more if he didn’t get trapped

[bronze coyote]

and then managed to land 1 hit later on while getting his whole body cut and split apart

[bronze coyote]

true but the reason he got trapped is that he was clearly weaker

[heady nacelle]

hey.

don't disrespect zohakuten

[bronze coyote]

zohakuten had the most potential and it was used horrbly

horribly

[heady nacelle]

sadly

[bronze coyote]

also its not disrespecting

mitsuri js built different

[glacial wren]

fr

[heady nacelle]

sigh..

where do ya'll rank

[bronze coyote]

base mitsuri btw

[heady nacelle]

mitsuri

[heady nacelle]

I bet in the movie they'll show her mark

[glacial wren]

we’ll see

[bronze coyote]

in previous panels she didnt have it

im not sure if they showed her neck properly

[heady nacelle]

ik

[bronze coyote]

right above mui

[heady nacelle]

oh....

[bronze coyote]

greater feats compare to muichiro but not enough to put her above anybody else

[glacial wren]

this movie gonna break the internet

[bronze coyote]

muzans fight was the most boring part of the entirety of demon slayer

[heady nacelle]

idk I've never thought her over muichiro

even though her feats

[glacial wren]

yeah, but sad that tokito died so young. Could have become the strongest

[glacial wren]

eh

[bronze coyote]

muzan was just oneshotting everybody while tanjiro was doing his circus dance

nothing epic

also bc circus dance tanjiro didnt even do proper damage

[bronze coyote]

well now u know better

we hope

[heady nacelle]

still not enough to change my mind for some reason

[glacial wren]

i am to tired and confused to keep debating

[heady nacelle]

I'll admit stubborness on this one

[glacial wren]

oh sad

[bronze coyote]

if she was a man you would be on it all night

[heady nacelle]

yup I'm fr s*xist (jk bro)

[glacial wren]

must have been the wind

[bronze coyote]

if she was a man she wouldnt be a woman

[glacial wren]

2025

[heady nacelle]

brv

brb

[glacial wren]

but anyway this was fun tho. The flower guy tho oml ima have dreams about him

[bronze coyote]

can you imagine that there are people who say this unironically

[dusky roost]

umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 9

[bronze coyote]

the life of an eboy

remember that

[glacial wren]

tru. I had another debate about shinobu and this guy was calling me sexist cuz i said shinobu is the weakest hashira. Said im a shinobu hater lol

[glacial wren]

wdym????

[bronze coyote]

his pronouns

were

"the life of an e-boy"

[glacial wren]

oh my bad

[bronze coyote]

his server tag is also

questionable

to be honest his whole profile besides the pfp is questionable

doesnt matter!

[glacial wren]

is that the pronoun section?

Like the top right?

[bronze coyote]

honestly altough not everyone does it there are people who genuinely would put shinobu above tengen or even rengoku if she was a man

bc more epic and sigma male energy

[bronze coyote]

yes

right besides

that word

[glacial wren]

Ahh ok

[bronze coyote]

come!

the famous word

come

[glacial wren]

lol

[bronze coyote]

😄

[glacial wren]

we love that word

[bronze coyote]

i almost got perma banned from a server bc my pronouns were backshot lord

[glacial wren]

yeah some people just delulu

[glacial wren]

omg

why do i f with that tho?

[bronze coyote]

bc its very sigma

[glacial wren]

lol

also i just realised i’ve been calling you girl and idek if you are. So sorry abt that

[bronze coyote]

i didnt really notice and i dont care

[glacial wren]

okie

[bronze coyote]

do yall think hantengus main body has a fighting spirit? his whole gimmick is being so much of a coward he has "other people" do his deeds for him

i dont think hed be willing to fight anybody

[glacial wren]

hmmm that’d be interesting.

I’d say he has one, just very little. Akaza stated that he hasn’t met a single peroson without one. Even babies have one

[bronze coyote]

well babies pull your hair n stuff

i mean ig yes

if a baby has it

wait

does

douma have it?

he cant feel anything

so why would he have hostile intentions

[glacial wren]

I’d say he does have it becusse he still has the intent to kill

[bronze coyote]

well tanjiro also had the intent to kill when he beheaded akaza didnt he?

[glacial wren]

and he does, he tried to kill kanao when she saidhe has no true feelings. He got pissed at that

[glacial wren]

no he didn’t. He had noting

[bronze coyote]

he definetely wasnt pissed

a few panels later

lol

douma

is a piece of shit

he doesnt and never will care

[glacial wren]

well he appeared enraged/angry when he was called out

[bronze coyote]

he also appears happy or pityful against shinobu

when he got beheaded he mentioned that he wasnt even annoyed he lost

because he genuinely couldnt

[glacial wren]

yeah i’m not denying that or debating it, he felt nothing

but i’m just saying that he seemd angry when he was called out and tried to kill kanao

[bronze coyote]

he was even hoping his "will" would make him regenerate like akaza or sum 😭

[bronze coyote]

douma just imitates which emotion would probably suit best the moment

im gonna go to sleep

goodnight!

[glacial wren]

yeah fair.

[glacial wren]

No worries goodnight! Sleep well!

[heady nacelle]

Im back guys!

[tough jungle]

mm so itsuri is much obviously the stronger from the 2

also sorry i keep havin to run for stuff

and uh