#🤬│debate
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lmao
I have like a huge crush on kechio
Awww cute. Ask them out lol
I did she never responded
awww well i’m sure if you respfectfulky ask agin it coukd happen
Ahem.. okay.
@tame rampart erm.. hey~ >~<, I have a crush on you, would you like to get to know each o-other..? blushing intensely while looking away
You think my confession will work?
If you know what Gohan is saying in the gif. Then that's my answer
bro im rusty
🗿
So you’re one of those
🍿
@tame rampart I’m really sorry
If you really think about it you never seen a wild horse
Most of the horse's you've ever seen if not all of em, we're tamed
I’m not I tried being funny but she ignored it :(
Ehh how do I put this gang
Don't be cheesy, not all women like that shit.. take it slow and be yourself because trying too hard to impress is weird work
Talk to her a bit get to know each other then you start taking it up a bit
Gang got hacked
If any of you click the image you're fucked so be careful It can and will get you hacked as well
It*
i just checked hinokami store on the experience and there is so much gamepass already, and i hope they change that cause like in exemple for robux u can get the thunder sword
, but it would be so much better that you have to craft the swords ingame, and not with some gamepass like demon slayer rpg2...
They did add more stuff I’m just now seeing it

like wdym 3rd hair slot 200 robux? its deadass stupid
wdym glowing eyes 300 robux
that’s a well known fact
that is way below the funny belt. You might as well have just blown your chances 10x
It’s hust cringe and gross
Cosmetics will be the main source of income for the game
i just find em a lil expensive for some stuff
Theres no pay to win
You arent forced to get them
Tbh bro I’m not here to look for a girl online it’s an obvious joke that was meant to be cringe dude 💀 I’m here to debate people on their wrong opinions and prove their deniability
If you got opinions you’d like to share, write em out
Real lol.
Not an opinion that’s wrong but before the movie i thought zenitsu was strong enough to beat a skilled upper rank by himself
phew- that's insane but I see i guess
yeah when i read the manga i thought zenitsu was like easily gonna beat an upper moon. But then yeah watching the movie i was disaapointed he cant
mhmm
My pet ant > Goku
I agree
So tuff
what's the best breathing for pve?
anything
Hello, I want to become an oni hunter in demon slayer rpg 2, how do I do it?
U a new player i’m assuming?
<@&641761758549114897>
kokushibo would beat muzan, tell me i’m wrong
um
I 50/50 agree on this but eh
a white haired, 4 drugged muzan, eos when he's completely nerfed WITH no blood curse. Kokushibo would win
if it's a black haired, prime before the drug was injected
kokushibo has no chance
Then he’d die right after
What who?
I legit said this because no one was debating anything.
hear me out
nezuko did jack shit besides slightly ragebaiting muzan
and maybe playing football at the start of the series
zenitsu soloing an uppermoon doesnt make him hashira level
PEAK
PEAK
PEAK
Absolutely
Wish this wouldve happened
My ball hair has better story than this
I bet my toes has a better story
I mean it kinda does? But at the same time the main cast is shown to us that they’re a hashira level as in “tanjiro, zenitsu, kanao, inosuke and genya” during the infinity castle
To be a hashira you have to kill a twelve kizuki alone or kill 50 demons
I agree
Hey you
Heyy youu 😘
NOOOOO
Eh, that’s debatable
I mean she did save tanjiro multiple times in the story
because of mc plot armor
kaigaku was at least lower moon level, and soloing a lower moon basically qualifies you as a hashira
..
trashtama is also overated
Bro just hates saitama wow
Yeah fuck saitama
This gen is so fried
saitama the GOAT
If I bought a game pass sword, will I still have it if I become a demon?
galaxy fodder
Galaxy fodder
cant use swords as a demon
Bro you have gojo as a pfp I don’t wanna hear it from you 😭
galaxy fodder
Poor guy
Cut in half
Krillin victim
You seeing this too?
i dont even care about goku
Neither for trashtama
good thing you cant say anything about it since he never loses
hes the goat
while mr trapped in a box and cut into two pieces did lose
LOL
tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 9
I’m curious about people with your mindset genuinely
Either this is terrible rage bait or delusion 😭
both
I need the Game:(
lowk gotta pressure em devs to release the damn game
they makin money of the release hype
syfm
Ah yes pressure to release an unfinished product
So thst you can say this shit is ass unplayable unfinished
yes exactly
love unfinished and unpkayable projects
alr in all seriousness though
waht im saying is releasing a beta version of the game with a finite end and cap
obviously we see that the game is currently playable
from the sneaks and shit
im just sayin
they could pull a deepwoken if they played their cards right
theres a lot of stuff missing still
better wait and get content
and pressure to get no content
deepwoken is horrible, idk what people see in that shit. Unemployment does crazy things in our brain mechanism after all.
deepwoken WAS great even if i was not a great player in pvp i loved pve raids with friends and guilds and little pvp with mine was good too so overall it was fun for me what did u disliked about it voidwalkers cheese builds wipe for no reason ?
so uh, nice main banner
<@&641761758549114897>
which one

Alr did
ack
Main banner
theres a lot of ppl saying slurs or wha 😭
no, scam pics
Ik it’s peak
yessir
Damn
she looks like you onb
yeah im an old hag like marine
I mean she looks cute
I really missed that goal didn't I
holy bro deepwoekn s=one of the best games out there cmon man
pineburgr You’ve Reached Level 1
it has to be the best game on roblox ryt now
im hoping hinokami / yaiba / rell seas can beat it
<@&641761758549114897>
@tame rampart
why are there so much bots?
cuz people are dumb
and fall for these scams
they steal peoples accounts
and post the scam from their accounts
its an endless cycle
and even if i tell people "hey look out for all these bots"
people get annoyed about it and others still fall for them
so no matter what we do people are just too stupid
so we can only just delete and ban the hacked accounts
bruh
bruh
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bruh
bruh
someone gotta ban this guy ryt now
mm
pineburgr You’ve Reached Level 3
bruh
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Bruh
G
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shinobus death was deserved
What makes you say that?
why deserved?
bruh
Bro just dipped after saying that
bruh
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this chat is so dead
im trying my best to respond to any debates
bruh
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Earned 700 candys last event and there gone waste of my time
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No
No
the problem is that nobody has some insane opinions to debate 😭
but demon slayer is cool 👍
pineburgr You’ve Reached Level 4
okay hbt this
someone lemme use some polls and I SHALL MAKE #🤬│debate GREAT AGAIN
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🦅
its not really about that, this server has 0 debaters
The server is dead
i can tell
Wait till hinokami releases and every channel will be on cooldown
I could enable polls here tbf
hinokami probably release when my granchildren are already out of school
polls could open some good stuff here
thats too optimistic 😔
youre right maybe when my granchildren will have grandchildren it will happen
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 1
Polls can now be created here, but you need to have newbie role
Yes
iirc yes
You need to be newbie
yes
Which is level 10
I dont wanna give people permissions to anything if they arent a bit active
this server and active are 2 different things
first step: catch someone talking in THIS server
hola
i haveth the talketh
hi
how are you good sir
i have replied
or good mam
me neither
i have to do work so i dont get deported by my parents
nice
so uh
what do you dislike about me
this is debate after all
your pfp
no
why so tho
some people are just mean
i js dont like it
you dont like turkeys?
no
it kinda makes you look old to me
im finna be old when ts finally releases
so it might ba an appropriate pfp
we all know it
well you can make yourself look younger with a dumb blox fruits pfp or something
Bruh i’m the same
nonononononononononono
no no no
nononononononono
anything but that game
damn i’m level 12
took years of my life
dayum unc
Shush
👍
Lol
i personally didnt farm a single day in bloxfruits
good
i applaud thee
i was still max level
🤔
i will crack it though
- You borrowd someone elses account (highly likely)
- You paid someone else to grind it for you (not likely at all)
- You exploited (50/50)
- u jst goated or sm idk
i was on my main and im goated
why cant you send pictures in a debate channel.
how does this make sense
👍
how are you supposed to prove what youre saying is true
yes
there are more of us
because hacked accounts would be able to post scams
than there are mods
it ruins the purpose of debate though
you dont need pictures to debate
a debate is a verbal discussion
not a childrens picture book
words 🧠
💡
demon slayer debaters always ask for proof
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 2
pic perms are level 35
tell them mfs to search it up
media access is level 10
i will reach level 35 after the game releases
hell nah
hell yes
aint nobody hoppin on this server till game releases 😭
the moment hino releses everyone is gonna have pic perms
nobody types in this server besides 3 people
game release
it was at 15 before rpg 2 released
increase
😢
debate ruiner 🙄
what debate were you having
pic perms lvl reduction
i wasnt having any rn but it doesnt make sense that to debate properly you need to type in here for hours
really?
yes... boosters get pic perms for boosting
what if i dont want to spend money
cmon just lower it a teeny bit until 60yrs later (when it might release) and then just increase it
Get some money 😎
:/
hah!
u right tho. i didnt think abt that
i cant
I gotchu man, not many people realise that
Then get some 😁
thanks bro. my whole perspective on life just changed
why bother living
🤔
if im just gunna die anyways
Fr, it’s just pointless
why bother with image perms
Need help?
if im just gunnaa die anyways
why bother helping others
if im just gunnaa die anyways
why bother wait for game
if im just gunnaa die anyways
it helps
ok
u can buy things to end wuicker
reach level 35 then
you are unreasonable
bruh can u not add images to the channel?
no
pineburgr You’ve Reached Level 5
no bc apperantely scammers will enter a dead server and send scams
if i was a scammer
i wouldnt pick a dead server out of all places
huh lol
get level 35
to advertise a scam
😭
lvl 35 to send pics is unreasonable and you have no good reason to make it this way
its botted
they dont care
u not selling ts very well 💔
really???
yes...
a bot will send texts and it wont matter if they can send pics or not bro
bruh i got 23 levels left
yes... so why would i want it to be embded
Oh well, the next grind starts
hol up what benefits do u get from extremely active?
make it low lvl so people can actually send pics
nothing
no
literally makes no sense bruh
get to level 35
when the game releases ill still be below that
fr
and thats assuming i pass down my account to my descendants
ay i got no special family hairlooms or shi
might just pass down my acc or sm ngl
that would be cool asf
in 2050 this gunna be an active acc from 2023
anyone here spent a few hours on mr?
theres nothing unreasable with it lmao
how is lvl 35 because of "scammers" not unreasonable
Unemployment stats
it is kinda bro
fr
explain
I’m glad we’re all debating in the debates channel 🤓
elaborate your statement
it surely wouldnt be very hard at all to eliminate a couple scammers in a dead channel.
Also idk any scammer who would persever over lvl 10 to get pic perms and then post stupid shi just to get banned.
so idk just reduce it a bit. WHen game releases in the distant forseeable future just increase it
🙏
theres nothing to elaborate or explain
there clearly is if 2 people disagree with you
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 3
3*
3 people*
if you keep saying that its not unreasonable that you have to type in a server for several hours just to send pictures but then bring no proper argument as to why its that why then its not our problem but yours because you fail to justify your actions
it has been set as level 35 since 2023
and it will remain as that
if anything id consider putting it up
and ofc you would disagree
you want something
because theres no good reason to do this??
hello?
the scammer argument is null and void
cuz lvl 10+ is clearly above any scammers patience limits
if its too easy
people will abuse it
you can get media access at level 10
abuse it how? lvl 15 was perfect and made sense
lvl 35 doesnt
for general chat to become a picture fest ?
not one bit
nope
there are no current people to abuse it
you are looking from the perspective of "im a member who wants to post a picture"
hbt lvl 20 then
and not from the perspective "i need to deal with 500000 kids spamming pictures"
put cooldowns in general chat so people cant spam and i doubt people with pic perms would spam it randomly, idk what servers youve been in but this NEVER happens
35 has worked perfectly fine
theres barely 10 people typing be so fr
you guys are mad only cuz you want pic perms
i do have pic perms
thats why you're mad
and i still disagree
mostly fine because almost no one can get it. it might also be a reason why so many chats are dead
saying were mad because youre failing to properly argue your decision is certainly something
then use ts
get to level 35
put it somewhere reasonable enoguh to make ppl do smth for it
it wouldnt but the people who actually type here would enjoy it more whats your point??
nobodys malding bro
unless you're able to give a valid reason as to why it would be beneficial for staff to lower pic perm requirements, i dont see any reason to do so
more people talking gng
that wont change anything
more community
that doesnt make sense
oh yes it will
it wont
no, unless YOURE able to give a proper reason as to why someone would type here 5000 hours for pic perms then your decision is irrational and made purely to annoy others lol
more poeple = higher chance of server boosters
ok
obviously
but if pic perms are low requirement, people dont need to boost
is this your first time moderating a server?
higher chance of suporters
therefore invalid argument
level 15-20 isnt a low reequirement
blah balh balkh im mad i want pic perms blah blahj
im not mad and i do have pic perms this is just the first time you moderate a server with actual humans bro 😭
idk offer like gif perms or shi for boosters
they can
make them 2 diff stuff
want it for free then grind for it
this is the reason why blox fruits ultimately faced its inevitable death
they set shi too high for the players
how long have you been in the server before you became a moderator
but they had some logic in them
about a year
enough to give back a bit to the players
which year was it
2019
do u make money off this?
when you were not a moderator did you genuinely feel like that lvl 15 or whatever it was
is actually too low for pics? or did you enjoy being able to talk without typing for endless hours
also btw did yall see opm s3 yet?
the ONLY reason you believe lvl 35 is not crazy as a requirement is because you dont actually know how much time it takes to actually reach it
did it come out?
mm
🍿🍿🍿
it was fine
just talk and level up
have you ever actually experienced how much time it takes to reach lvl 35?
i dont think so
other than the hinokami announcements and dsrpg2 updates this server isnt really built very good
the pic spamming children could simply be put at bay by setting a cooldown on general chat
the scammers genuinely dont care if they can send pics or not
I’m on the grind to 💪🏻
yes
people managed it within 2 weeks of joining
some channels like debate should have pic perms even for someone who just joine
nahhhh
do you know how much time is 2 weeks? are you hearing yourself
im not changing anything
POV: unemployed
nobody cares how long it has been since it became the norm
its not reasonable at all
and youre failing to provide reasons as to why it makes sense
lol
🍿🍿🍿
its not that you have to but the fact you cant give a reason to then mock others by saying "keep malding, blahh blahh im mad and i want pics11!1!1!"
is just childish and stupid
continue proving my point
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 4
Damn, got you there
proved my point too
Idek what’s going on anymore
moderator fails to moderate properly and is actively mocking the server members for calling them out
I see..
and the part where i give a rats? I can’t find it lol
And just like that, something unlocked inside me that i never knew before
same bro
ay keep posting more beloved mod
isnt this augusta without her crown


Damn…
Might i perchance, have a viewing of them?
viewing of what
Monkey brain be like
I feel like it’s abvious lol
what does this even mean
zenitsu cosplayer
More like denji
same thing
Brain empty
its
lmfao shush
absolute its?
no i meant
Good, i aint wanna be part of the brain rot
you already are
NOOOO
So obv ur level 25+
i have a friend that believes kanao blitzes akaza
nope
boosting which im gonna remove as soon as I can probably
ahh makes sense
i know she doesnt blitz him but do you think she can give a good fight to him? because against doma she was performing pretty good
until he stole her sword
obviously..
yeah she did welk and then with inosuke joined it was epic
and yeah they’d fight well, but in the end he’d win outright.
he usually toys with them to see them give their all before he kills them. His way of respect
my friend also thinks that kanao got her sword stolen because she wasnt breathing for too much time
which doesnt really make sense..
because she still had oxygen
he did
like with akaza, kanoe has a strong fighting spirirt and the stronger it is the better akaza is at fighting because his compass needle detects it better. Only reason he lost was cuz tanjiro didn’t have a spirit
the only reason they say this happened is because kanao apperantely "didnt have her breathing buffs"
which is
stupid
breathing techniques in demon slayer buff them
giving them strenght similar to demons
yeah ik
akaza lost bc he gave up but we dont really know kanaos fighting spirit
doesnt really matter
bc akaza no compass probably obliterates her
Well sorry yeah but still if he didn’t start to regenerate, he lost then and there. He even addmitted it was over from being beheaded. He can’t fight someone with no fighting spirirt
other than the fighting spirit thing he mentioned that tanjiro surpassed his speed out of nowhere
which is also why he lost
When was that? When he got the tw and cut his arm off saving giyu?
yeah we know.
also - i havent rlly bothered reading the manga. what actually makes doma stronger than akaza. i understand kokushibo. but doma?
Ahh thx
is doma actually stronger?
yes
than who? tanjiro? probably
oh wait i forgot the woman eating thing
akaza
Akaza can only do so much at close range. Douma has ranged attacks
in terms of phsyical combat obviousl
douma is upper 2 while akaza is upper 3
i get the whole upper 3 to 2 thing
for a reason
Akaza would win in physical combat. But douma is stronger tho
like u know how rui is obviously physically stronger than enmu (lower 5 - lower 1)
akaza mastered martial arts obviously his skills are better in terms of precision and technique but douma would still win because hes alot stronger in strenght
and speed
never mentioned
Douma’s ice is to versatile compared to akaza’s punches
its said that rui had the power of lower 2 or 1 but they never mentioned actual strenght points from rui to enmu
aw cmon man - enmu doesnt go anywhere withing range of the slayers attacks.
enmu doesnt need to
puts them to sleep
why would enmu ever go for physical combat
you cant know that
rui would probably win with his strings. Very hard to see
rui would most likely lose to enmu because enmu received way too much blood for lower 1
after muzan basically wiped out the entirety of the lower moons he gave a shit ton of blood to enmu
we also dont really know enmus physical strenght because he never had to use it
yeah, it’s all just speculation
yesterday i had someone trying to tell me that gyomei is as strong as base kokushibo
for me its 10 am 
lol, it’s 7pm for me
ok so we talking base gyomei vs base koku?
no they said marked stw gyomei is base kokushibo level
nah koku would still win
jamie_476 You’ve Reached Level 13
yay 13
i know but the guy literally claims gyomei no diffs douma 🥀
With a 1v1 between koku and gyomei, even with his mark and tw, kokushibo just beats him. He’s the brother of yorichii an a former hashirs himself. Already thats smth. But with his regenerative abilites and speed, he just wins no diff.
It took 3 hashira + genya to beat him and teo of them died. Other teo were severely wounded.
the fact hes yoriichis brother isnt relevant you scale people based on their feats not their heritage
the point was that theres isnt a single feat from gyomei that puts him above base kokushibo
Nope. Basically the upper 3 moons can’t be killed outright without external forces at play. Akaza: his memories and his will to not want to go on. Douma: shinobu’s poison. Kokushibi: his memories and his will to continue
i meant more about his strength, he’s the brother of the strongest slayer in history. So already he’s strong just on his own but yeah as he got older and became a demon, he was just too op
honestly i dont know why people say kokushibo gave up when its straight up not true, he disintegrated while trying to regen
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 5
also side note, never realised akaza was over 700 years old
he isnt
kokushibo is about 500
its impossible that akaza is 700
He saw his reflection in final form in sanemi’s sword and saw what he became. Yes he was defeated but also at the sam time he was so caught up in his head and memories he couldn’t fight
thats right but he didnt want to die like akaza he was still trying to regenerate
he wouldnt be so suprised hes disintegrating if he genuinely gave up
i wonder why kokushibo doesnt have permanent scars like muzan from yoriichi
why would he have them?
muzan who is 100 times stronger than him has them so why wouldnt he?
he got cut by yoriichi
too
hmm, i’ll have to see the movie again. I’m sure akaza said “in more then 7 centuries…”
true but he wasn’t in his prime. Also idk if he was using the red blade. And also muzan was over 9000 years old to show his scars
yoriichi never left his prime and i believe yoriichis blade was permanently a red one bc of his talent but perhaps its the same thing as muzan
yeah his blade was red.
alo prrtty sure muzan’s scars were becuase yoriichi’s attack damaged him on a cellular level
wild, im sure akaza said different in the movie. I need to watch it for a 4th time now
where did he mention that
him being older than kokushibo would also make no sense
during his like flashbacks. Somewhere around there
I’m sorry i could be wrong. So yeah
i found this explanation which might partially be untrue but the thing abt tatoos is kind of enough
i mean it kinda could.
they both had a blood fight to change ranks but kokushibo spared akaza
but anyway yeah. Back to the main point. Gyomei does not beat kokushivo outright. Tell your deluded friend haha
no no that was some random tiktok guy
my friend isnt that crazy
other than believing kanao "blitzes" akaza
ohhh my bad then sorry
still then, she doesn’t
whats your craziest take on demon slayer
uhhh, wdym?
a hot take
Hmm
Everything happened prefectly, you change one thing and it changes the whole story
well for hot take i meant in terms of characters strenght
idkkk girlll
shes very fast but she probably wouldnt be able to do effective damage
a small cut doenst really give her an advantage
doesnt*
true but then again she could just spear her sword through rengoku’s head like she did to douma
i believe rengoku would be able to deflect it
shes fast but shes not god
she also has no mark
well let me say this then. Shinobu was faster then douma, he couldn’t read her attacks. Plus she was wounded badly where here lings were ruptured so she couldn’t breath properlly which affected her skills. Plus douma’s ice was in her lungs causing necrosis. Yet she was capalabke of that speed and skill
It’s all said that douna can dodge akaza’s punches. So that also shows a speed difference.
but it also depends who hits who first. Like onv rentoku is a lot stronger so if he was able to land a hit or more then that could be enough to finish. But with her speed, if she manages to land a fatsl blow or multiple strikes to weaken him she could win. It just depends
you fail to realize how much the mental amp genuinely buffed her she was not faster than douma she was outpacing him not blitzing him she wasnt faster otherwise she wouldnt have died in the first place. + rengoku was handling akaza ALOT better than shinobu handling douma this is not something really debatable, as much as I love shinobu (shes my fav hashira) shes incredibly weak and only surpasses tengen bc of how weak tengen is but shes definetely losing to rengoku
before the mental amp she was barely doing anything and literally got blitzed 2 minutes into the fight
honestly what i really want shounen to do is make a spin off from the series and just take peoples debates and animate them to make a definitive answer. Like such and such would win against such and such. Also i’d love to watch tanjiro fight every demon he beat when he’s at his peak. Inclusing tw, mark and 13th sun breathing form
Douma said he couldn’t read her attacks, he couldn’t predict her. She was too fast for him
predictability isnt speed related
he did say she was fast but if she was THAT fast she wouldnt have died in 2 chapters
She was wounded from douma’s first attack tho, her lungs were freezin so she was weakened staright up. Douma states that she’s too fast when she’s doing the 100 legged move.
she got blitzed even before suffering from doumas bda
and then after that, her lungs were filling with blood
wdym?
Yeah she didn’t see it, but she was still faster at the end. He couldn’t see her movements
she was unpredictable not faster, she was outpacing him.
would you say kanao is faster than douma because she was reacting so well to his attacks?
you wouldnt
because theres a scene where kanao gets blitzed in every way
which just says douma was holding back
same for shinobu how can she get blitzed but suddenly be faster than him?
it makes no sense
He was holding back since the begining
we all know that
I’d say it’s both. You can be unpredictable but slow
yes you can but when youre fast enough even if youre slower you can outpace your opponent
kanao with her perception was barely dodging doumas attacks
and shinobu with her zigzag pattern was confusing douma to the point he couldnt react
different fight but what about zenitsu and daki? She was faster then him and blitzing him, then he comes out with godlike speed
he hit her but she clearly saw it considering she split her neck with her obi
to make it more durable
also without inosuke daki wouldve killed zenitsu
I don’t think she did. I think that’s just her natural line of defense where her obi is attached to her head. Tengen was fast enough to slice it with no trouble
tengen was infinite times faster than zenitsu
true ik but that wasn’t my point
ik that
also no, even if its how she defends herself its not automatic
he’s a shinobi
im trying to find the chapter where zenitsu uses godspeed wait
all good
All in all, my opinion is that shinobu is faster then douma. Not by a huge amount but still faster. Also need to take into account that, like i said, she was severely wounded when she did the zigzag, and still was faster then douma
she was not faster otherwise she wouldve blitzed him without a second thought
but she did tho? He speared through his head faster then he could react
she was never going to win against douma, period. But still she blitzed him a few times, as he did with her
explain this then..?
she never blitzed him
he saw it coming
just didnt react as fast
thats outpacing
not blitzing
i just read what blitzing means. Yeah no she was never going to do serious damage aginst him
but still tho at times she was faster then douma, you have to admit that
by this logic kanao is faster than douma
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 6
She wasn’t
i know
yay level 6!
shinobu also wasnt
kanao was holding douma alot better
than shinobu
yet she was still slower
btw about daki i believe that godlike speed is something like vermillion eye that gives a huge boost in stats but doesnt last long
she even stated that she already knew all his techniques and knew how fast they were
so probably godlike speed is a buffed version that can be used once max twice
she also saw the hit considering she said "he almost cut me" meaning she manually made her neck like that
i’m not fully aware, but did she breath in his attacks? If not well that’s probably a huge reason, shinobu breathed his bda in which made her significantly weaker
kanao did not breath in doumas bda
main reason why she was keeping up
barely
but she was
I’d say yes and no. Yes it gives him a huge burst of speed but i don’t believe it increases other stats
ok well that’s a reason then.
it increases his speed in exchange for his lega
legs
vermillion eye increases perception
yeah that’s fair then
by slowing down movements
honestly if daki was fighting completely on her own she wouldve died much sooner
well if we really wanna talk about speed with zenitsu and daki. How tf did inosuke catch them middair?? Haha
plot
oh yeah, she was weak
lol we love plot breathing
just like tanjiro managing to outspeed gyutaro for one panel to then go back to getting his ass beaten
btw i’m enjoying this debate, no hate at all x
i believe the reason inosuke catched them is that the anime was kind of misleanding zenitsu wasnt really moving from the original spot
hes standing still
maybe, not sure.
I should read the manga again only up to the movie. I don’t wanna remember what happens for the other movies
i mean i assume you remember the main plot
i do remembr all of it, but i don’t wanna remember so i can experince the movies with basically a blank mind
during infinity castle, i was watching the manga in my head as well as the movie and i was like. Omg this part is coming up, damnit now ik wht’s gonna happen, it’s spoiled for me.
just the exprience of seeing it for the first time yk?
for me as long as i saw it once i will always remember it while watching
so it doesnt really work for me
yeah exactly, so i do my best not to think but just experience
But anyway good debate, happy to do it another time. We’ll not always have the same view on smth
also, side rant. How does gyomei have the tw if he’s blind? Like what?
maybe it gave him vision
hmm
i read the kokushibo part but i dont really understand how it works for him
cause he says "i have a clear image"
but how do you possibly have a clear image if youre blind??
from what i understand his senses act as vision for him
which probably (for plot obviously) dont make him much different from people with eyes
so the see through world is just like obanai having vision even if hes blind thanks to yushiro
i was abt to say, i just looked it up and a lot of sources say that cuz of his mark his sene are heightened more then before, so it was creating a mental image from his other senses
also it was never stated that to see the tw u needed vision soooo idk
yeah
i mean logically if you have to "see" the transparent world you also need to not be blind yk..
in your opinion, woukd peak tanjiro (mark, tw and 13th form) beat all the hashira one by one?
yeah ik but yeah anyway
he stops at gyomei
for me
tanjiro 13th form doesnt have much feats to scale him past gyomei
he was getting whooped by muzan and wasnt dying only bc muzan aged 3 billion years
crippled old man muzan isnt reliable for scaling
unless you do something insane like mizuri ripping his arm off with her bare arms
mitsuri*
yeah i’d say gyomei too. He’d have a difficult time with like sanemi and obanai, but i think he still wins
nah he'd probably high diff sanemi and mid diff obanai
not really a difficult time
thxx
one last thing is that the reason im saying shinobu didnt blitz douma is because here in this panel you can clearly see he saw her very clearly but its not really a blitz just outpacing
since literally like 6 panels before that she got tapped
and it looked VERY different
it was fun indeed
bruh
bro I missed a big debate I was asleep, what was it about?
Honestly it wasnt anything insanr
We just cleared some questions and facts
what were they?
It was smth abt shinobus speed we talked abt daki and plot in characters we talked abt why shinobu wouldnt beat rengoku
Thats pretty much it
The things before that were obvious ragebait takes made by a friend of mine but we didnt really debate on those
Above uzui but below rengoku
above uzui?
ig that's one of the hotter takes
Uzuis feats arent really that good
True because he fought against an upper 6 but I've always thought of it like this
U can do this
I got this trust
Strength > Tengen
Running speed > Tengen
Attack speed > Shinobu
Reaction Speed > (Kinda varies because shinobu reacting to upper 2, but then tengen has musical score)
Durability > Tengen
Stamina > Tengen
Endurance > Tengen
IQ > Shinobu
Battle IQ > Tengen
AP (Attack Potency) > Shinobu
DC (Destructive Capability) > Tengen
Hax > Tengen
Agility > Shinobu
Experience > Tengen
Offense > Tengen
Defense > Tengen
Flexability > Shinobu
lmk if you'd change anything
What do you mean by attack potency
The amount of destruction in a single attack
Isnt that just the one below
and then destructive capability is overall destruction they can do in total
or wit
wait*
not destruction, I meant damage
the amount of damage they can do in a singular attack
Oh okay then
Overall that seems a good list on their stats
Only thing is that reaction speed goes to shinobu bc altough tengen has his musical score he still has feats against upper 6 meanwhile shinobu against upper 2
something kinda fishy about the upper 2 attacks because douma was moving way differently against kanao and inosuke
And musical score from what I understood is more about pattern recognition rather than reaction speed
Otherwise he wouldve activated it at the start
Kanao and inosuke were overall better in all besides IQ and speed
I agree
you could say that but she was holding her own pretty good before inosuke showed up
onb
Yes but at the same time it was pretty obvious that douma wasnt really trying
he always takes his opponent lightly when he knows he's stronger
do you think douma would've tried harder against gyomei?
Probably but gyomei still loses
yeah
Im also not sure gyomei wouldve been able to explode doumas head
Bc he didnt manage to do it against kokushibo
their neck is too hard, only reason he did it to muzan was because he was held and it was coming at insane speed
Anyway, back to the main point which was shinobu above tengen
My opinion on shinobu is that against demons shes most likely the weakest because she cant behead them but in a 1v1 against hashiras she beats most of them
Against demons from what was shown and analyzed from the novelization it says she almost killed douma with her zigzag attack so its very likely that if she blitzes gyutaro and injects multiple poisons in his neck he can die
idk I've always had mixed feelings about it ever since she was toyed with and stated that she's the weakest
tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 10
The only argument against her is her inability to behead demons
probably but I could've sworn that douma said she's weaker than her sister
To put her below uzui
that's exactly why I put her below uzui
Im gonna check wait
my bad, in the movie he said weaker, in the manga he said "less talented"
i just re read the manga part of shinobu vs douma he doesnt really mention kanae at all
umidekk. You’ve Reached Level 7
he said "your sister"
I'm talkin about the very end where he's hugging her
and he's crying
oh something else
a lot of people just give up when it comes to scaling "featless" characters
i mean how do you scale a featless character
but if you dig deep enough, there's actually enough information to scale them somewhere
kanae for example
I use that panel a lot
and michikatsu sometimes
he's very featless but there's a few statements out there that scale him somewhere
yes but its not a very consistent scaling
it's not, but it works for me
you can approximately put him somewhere but theres not really a strong argument as to why hes put there
just like tengen being able to behead demons isnt a very strong argument to put him above shinobu like others think
only arguement that's valid is in the flashback, it all depends on how you scale the very old era hashira
back in yorichi's days
stated that him and yorichi were above everyone as in "no one could rival our strength"
clearly he's weaker to yorichi, but claimed that no one is at HIS level either
true but theres not any feat of human koku to put him anywhere in between the current hashiras
