🤬│debate

[tawny orbit]

if u had to scale Gyomei with cursed energy in jjk where would he be

[heady nacelle]

gyomei is just different

[heady nacelle]

this is kinda dif- because he'll need a cursed techinque, a domain, blah blah

anyone who's not yorichi, muzan or kokushibo, idk how to scale them in jjk

😭

[tawny orbit]

ehhhh

IMAGINE HIS DOMAIN IS JUST A MONK MOUNTAIN

nah it would be like

rocks

and deepslates

[heady nacelle]

Waterfall of the Ancient Monks

or smth

[tawny orbit]

and sharp stuff

wait what would yoriichi’s domain be?

[heady nacelle]

shi

idk

[tawny orbit]

palace of the fire god?

bc like

hinokami kagura = dance of the fire god

okay

different topic

minecraft STEVE vs roblox BUILDERMAN

most intense battle

as silence falls…i wonder…how did i forget what loneliness felt like…?

(every emo boy’s thoughts)

[heady nacelle]

LOL

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 6

[tawny orbit]

holdon wait

BOY do i got a SURPRISE FOR YOUUU

[heady nacelle]

wsg

[tawny orbit]

Ok

hardest debate ever

Murata vs Demon Yoriichi full potential + Muzan full Prime

@heady nacelle

[heady nacelle]

murata> \

[tawny orbit]

YES

SIRRRR

Mewtwo vs rayquaza

[dusky roost]

tama8705 You’ve Reached Level 5

[tawny orbit]

Mewtwo vs RAY QUA ZAAAAA

[heady nacelle]

I've yet to miss on my takes huh

[tawny orbit]

alr sum has been bothering me

@heady nacelle

[heady nacelle]

what

[tawny orbit]

and trust me its confusing

13th form tanjiro vs showdown arc yuji

[heady nacelle]

I got no idea

im not into the jjk manga like that

[tawny orbit]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[heady nacelle]

a healthy 13th form tanjiro is above everyone in demon slayer EXCEPT kokushibo and above

[white hare]

how to get stuff

i mean sun

like fr guys

[heady nacelle]

in the game?

Im not sure I don't really play anymore

[white hare]

i saw one guy jumping me with SUN

like fr

[unborn drum]

it's !swordidle1 it was in the #❓│faq

[dusky roost]

goat_cenat You’ve Reached Level 3

[unborn drum]

bro it's not that deep he's playing dw and u will NOT get a revenge

cuz u can't sadely

[white hare]

WHY I CAN"T USE BREATHING RESETER NPC

RAAAAAAAH

[tawny orbit]

i think you stole my mind why do our power scaling seem the same exact thinking

[heady nacelle]

Once you see my list you’ll think differently

[tawny orbit]

alr

its been too long

time for a debate

Gojo

versus

Yoriichi (with CE for fair fight.)

[tawny orbit]

WHO WINS!?

[heady nacelle]

Bro…

[tawny orbit]

Lol

okay ykw

ignore that one

show me your list

[tawny orbit]

i wanna see if ur list rlly makes me think different

[heady nacelle]

Alr once I’m up I’ll send it

[tawny orbit]

still waiting btw

[clear coral]

I can't use demon art reseter npc

Its bug

[white hare]

Just use those !AugustDemonArtReset

[unborn drum]

So u're victime of this type of scam links poor soul

[tame rampart]

Yes he is

[sleek heath]

poor guy, end his suffering

[dusky roost]

kiseli_paradajz0 You’ve Reached Level 2

[mossy idol]

13th form Tanjiro > all upper ranks and hashira

[dusky roost]

l.jxsph You’ve Reached Level 3

[mossy idol]

Except koku

[glacial wren]

uhhh no

when you say all hashira. Do you mean ALL hashira or just the current ones?

[mossy idol]

Every hashira except sengoku

Period

Na acc js yorichi

Michikatsu has no feats

[rain cradle]

dont cope

he isnt even making it past giyuu

😭

realistically

[mossy idol]

🥀

Bros watching giyuu slayer

Tanjiro beheaded Akaza and went toe to toe w Muzan

Giyuu coudknt even do damage to Akaza

Marked btw

[heady nacelle]

all the upper ranks besides kokushibo and we got a deal

[heady nacelle]

yes thank you

[heady nacelle]

how come?

[rain cradle]

LMAOO? SNEAKED AKAZA AND STILL WAS DYING

GIYUU has more overall experience than tanjiro

overpowered = always winning

he isnt making it past giyuu's 11th

and even if he does

he isnt beating sanemi

fought against kokushibu

and won

[inland warren]

sanemi really got his stomach cut open, but still fought against the two strongest demons in existence and lived to tell the tale

[mossy idol]

With the help of Gyomei Genya and Tokito

[rain cradle]

And? My point still stands? Did he or did he not beat the strongest um1?

Tanjiro is a fraud carried by plot and power of friendship

[heady nacelle]

He didn’t sneak akaza, he cut his head right in front of him. Even literally said “Akaza I’m going to behead you!”

Tanjiro out preformed every hashira during the Muzan fight, plot and “power of friendship” never took place until he already outperformed them, then got saved by obanai

I really don’t get where you’re going with this

[heady nacelle]

Experience doesn’t equal “better and stronger”

Tengen is the most experienced hashira does that make him the strongest?

[heady nacelle]

Tanjiro already dodged an attack that completely annihilated giyuu’s 11th (arguably the best defense ever)

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 7

[heady nacelle]

Please make some fair points next time and do more research

[heady nacelle]

Sanemi didn’t even last a 1v1 against a base kokushibo before he had to get carried by gyomei

A base kokushibo who was barely putting effort in the fight won against Sanemi

Kokushibo could realistically wipe the entire hashira so don’t even use him as an anchor

[tawny orbit]

bro silenced everyone 😭

[glacial wren]

yeah because akaza could no longer see tanjiro

[glacial wren]

Facts. Pretty sure the only reason they one was because Kokushibo gave up after his flashbacks. Could have easily won but he was cocky

[long adder]

didnt akaza end himself

[heady nacelle]

yes

[heady nacelle]

thank you

[heady nacelle]

it's that simple 😭

[glacial wren]

All they need to do is read the manga, it’s legit all explained there.

[heady nacelle]

don't worry I did them the favor of explaining

[glacial wren]

Fr. It’s really not that hard.

And with the whole scaling saying tanjiro is the strongest is just bs 😭

[heady nacelle]

which one

[glacial wren]

the earlier debates u were having

[heady nacelle]

I dont recall a tanjiro one

[glacial wren]

this one. U didn’t debate it but yeah

[heady nacelle]

oh i mean

I did kinda agree on it besides kokushibo

and maybe possibly gyomei

just possibly

[glacial wren]

I’d say that yes he could beat most upper ranks but not douma and above. I’d also say that he can’t defeat all Hashira’s

[dusky roost]

jamie_476 You’ve Reached Level 8

[heady nacelle]

I'd say he has a high chance against douma

especially because of his sun breathing and 13th form is way too unpredictable

to a calibar of muzan's level reaction speed (even if weakened)

[glacial wren]

It’s be interesting to see cuz he was struggling against akaza until the see through world. And akaza struggled against douma for placements

[heady nacelle]

yeah I mean we talking an end of story healthy tanjiro

one that already unlocked everything

[glacial wren]

That is true. It’svery effective against demons regen speed

[glacial wren]

Yeah

[heady nacelle]

exactly

which hashiras do you believe he'll lose against

[glacial wren]

shanezigawa, gyomei, possibly rengoku (although to some he’d be considered one of the weakest hashira), close diff to tokito, obanai.

[heady nacelle]

insane claims

[glacial wren]

I’d say he’d win against shinobu, mitsuri, giyuu and tengen

[heady nacelle]

I'll need to think about this

[glacial wren]

that’s based off my knowledge, i haven’t done insane research into it. Read the manga a couple years ago but i remember most things

[heady nacelle]

oh ighh

I'll double

[glacial wren]

?

Also with some people I’ve spoken to, they say that rengoku is one of the weaker hashira’s compared to others, which i can and can’t see.

[glacial wren]

With tokito, while trainjng he did very well against him, but that wasn’t tokito going all out and that was tanjiro jinda going out, but i have lenience cuz he was learning on the go.

[glacial wren]

Gyomei and shanezigawa i feel are self explanitory. Sorta same with obanai (especially if he talks to mitsuri haha) but idk abt rengoku. I reckon that’d be a diff fight

[heady nacelle]

I believe that gyomei is the only one tanjiro will have trouble with… I have my reasons I just need to get back to my pc

alr im here

[glacial wren]

No ur all good. Can’t wait to be wrong and see ur reasoning 😊

[heady nacelle]

whatt bro don't think that 😭

I'm not that smart at debating

@tawny orbit right??

[glacial wren]

Aight, let him cook

[heady nacelle]

okay

ima talk very late manga

muzan fight

a very weakened muzan was fighting the hashira and 3 of the kamaboko squad

[glacial wren]

understandable. Everone’s at their strongest

[heady nacelle]

5 hashira to be exact

zenitsu, kanao and inosuke

they were all defeated with one singular blow

[glacial wren]

Mhmm

[heady nacelle]

chapter 191 to be exact

but then tanjiro showed up, with a missing eye, poisoned to near death. clearly died then came back to life

he starts to fight and keep up with muzan, no support, no help

alone

his 13th form was used the total of 3 times

before stumbling on the 4th because he was out of energy and exhausted

obviously more injured than the rest

that alone shows a lot

[glacial wren]

Yep that’s true. The obanai helped i believe

[heady nacelle]

obanai helped after he stumbled yeah

that was after his preformance against muzan

his preformance alone out preformed everyone in that entire fight

[glacial wren]

Yeah, great feat

[heady nacelle]

i say that

[glacial wren]

Yeah i can’t ignore that. I can only imagine him at full strength

[heady nacelle]

because he was able to keep up with the same muzan who just destroyed the hashira with one blow

then I start to use common sense and put two and two together

[glacial wren]

Also helped he had see through world so he could see muzan’s movements

[heady nacelle]

"if tanjiro did this, no one else ever did, means he's better'

[heady nacelle]

exactly

he had sun breathing mastered forms, red blade, see through world and the mark

• selfless state which stops muzan from sensing his next attack

[glacial wren]

Ok no that’s a fair argument then.

Yeah against the other hashira he played exceptionally

[heady nacelle]

though the hashira were already worn out from the uppermoon fights

he was exactly near death

his heart even stopped beating at some point

then came back missing an eye

to outpreform the hashiras that muzan just dealt with

and that is a "near death" tanjiro

you can only imagine a full power tanjiro

[glacial wren]

yep. And then obv demon king tanjiro just ablitorates everyone

[heady nacelle]

there's a small problem with dkt

I do agree he's the second strongest in the verse but it comes with some limitations

because it's true that he can't die at all

literally doesn't die

but he has zero experience

none

[glacial wren]

so no yeah i can def see that fulk strength tanjiro with all thos moves would have a easy time fighting hashira

[heady nacelle]

he was sloppy and couldn't even kill anyone

[heady nacelle]

now we're not saying all at once, 1v9

we're talking 1v1

[glacial wren]

Yep, also he was still fighting so he hadn’t given into the form

[heady nacelle]

if it's 1v9, tanjiro would probably lose

[glacial wren]

yeah

Good debate thanks!
It’s fun learning all this

[heady nacelle]

igu

[glacial wren]

Honestly they need to make a spin off show with full strength Tanjiro fighting all the demons he’s ever fought 1 by 1 and seeing the outcome and how quick it’d be

plus all the upper moons. That’d really shut everyone’s mouth about powerscaling lol

[glacial wren]

thx

[mossy idol]

@heady nacelle Ty

[heady nacelle]

No worries

[dusky roost]

vl7_1732 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[dusky roost]

madarauchiha9433 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[drifting iron]

Zenitsu DESTROYS kanao

[heady nacelle]

Good job bro, good job 😭

[waxen cave]

Listen

Air hakuda or speed

[surreal cove]

doma

[trail sapphire]

Messi better than Ronaldo

[dusky roost]

jah6218 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[heady nacelle]

what's this mean I didn't really understand

[heady nacelle]

messi = better player
ronaldo = better human

[rain cradle]

Type soul

[heady nacelle]

Thank you

I like your profile wth

[rain cradle]

Ty twin

[heady nacelle]

Onb

[heady nacelle]

Hey change it back 😡

[rain cradle]

smh smh

trust

kaneki tuff too

yk

[heady nacelle]

Igh

[pulsar notch]

muzan used a different attack to hit all hashiras together

they were all caught off guard since they were previously reacting to muzan attacks

and even then

it was said by inosuke that giyuu and gyomei saved them from the attacks thus losing their limbs in the process

so giyuu and gyomei at least were able to react to it

which would kinda make sense since giyuu is a defense player, he'd react to it and gyomei is gyomei

though it still a very impressive feat that tanjiro was able to keep up with a muzan that though they were all super exhausted, the hashiras were barely keeping up with

and the longer tanjiro fought the longer muzan was also getting weakened

[pulsar notch]

demon king tanjiro is featless

he does have THE most potential in the show

like to become stronger than anyone else

but the little amount of time he was

he was probably at the level of a regular demon

since even human nezuko was able to react to him

[vestal sable]

Tomoe solos

[tame rampart]

Oh my god.

Bro spoke truth

That no one could see

Forbidden names were released

[glacial wren]

you literally just repeated what we’ve already discussed 🗿

[glacial wren]

Still shows how skilled tanjiro was, even in his weakened state, to keep up with muzan.

[glacial wren]

bruh ☝🏻

[heady nacelle]

I got stuff to do in my life I can't keep responding to these people 😭

[pulsar notch]

Not really no

[pulsar notch]

Yea

[green kernel]

Rengoku > giyu both base if rengoku had mark he would also win

[dusky roost]

zeni6546 You’ve Reached Level 13

[smoky heath]

Why?

[heady nacelle]

wowzers

@tawny orbit I think ima retire from this

[glacial wren]

Yes but actually you have. We legit discussed how dkt was the strongest in the series but because he was so knew and still not fully taken by muzan, he was eratic and bad at his skills.

[glacial wren]

Rengoku was a powerful hasira but against the others he was quite weak (except for shinobu and mayybbeee tengen). He held is own against akaza quite well but then again akaza was holding back majorly and just toying with rengoku. Giyuu on the other hand was fighting with akaza who was not holding back and toying. Fair enough he had tanjiro to help him but even so, he managed to hold his own.

[green kernel]

In the movie akaza said after mopping the floor with giyuu that “even so re Goku was completely something else”

[clever scroll]

shinobu outscales badly

rengoku outscales tengen badly

[heady nacelle]

what are you talkin about bro 😭

[heady nacelle]

never been said, what was actually said "He most likely wouldn't have been able to get stronger than when I saw him then"

quit tryna make things up :(

[tame rampart]

<@&641761758549114897> please ban these

[pastel flax]

Mb couldnt react in time

[glacial wren]

Your saying that shinobu wins against rengoku?

[glacial wren]

i’m watching the movie in three days. We’ll soon see 😊

[glacial wren]

That doesn’t disprove my point tho. Compared to the other hashira, rengoku was one of the weakest in terms of skill and experience, besides shinobu and maybe tengen.

[clever scroll]

yes

and rengoku dog shits

on tengen

[clever scroll]

fax

[heady nacelle]

bro I just met you and you're already giving me headaches

[clever scroll]

its fax though

[dusky roost]

b.ryc.e You’ve Reached Level 7

[clever scroll]

Tengen > Rengoku > Shinobu > Mitsuri = Muichiro > Obanai > Giyuu > Sanemi > Gyomei

[heady nacelle]

what a list you have bro

[clever scroll]

this is

actually

the correct list

shinobu and rengoku are debatable

so are muichiro and mitsuri

and possibly obanai and giyuu..

[heady nacelle]

I think 70% of the demon slayer comm agrees shinobu is the weakest

[vestal sable]

I can spoil the terrible show for you

[clever scroll]

that 70% is sexist as fuck trust me

if u actually compared by feats w no bias

[heady nacelle]

bro come on

[clever scroll]

u would see shinobu is without a doubt stronger than tengen

[heady nacelle]

I have no time for this rn 😭

[clever scroll]

and arguably stronger than rengoku

[heady nacelle]

wait why are we mutual with someone

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 8

[clever scroll]

i was gonna say that

[heady nacelle]

dm me rq

[glacial wren]

bruh she is the weakest hashira in terms of strength. Legit all of them would beat her. The only thing that makes her a decent hashira is her poison. She can’t even decapitate a demon

[glacial wren]

It’d be a close fight. Tengen being a shinobi is great at the stealth during the fight, and he’s also stronger than rengoku. Tengen can also read rengoku’s abilities like music once he learns them. How ever rengoku is a skilled swordsman so with his skills it’d be a tough battle

[glacial wren]

that is a wild list. That aint accurate at all

[glacial wren]

bruh it’s not. It’s based off skill and strength etc. she can’t even decapitate a demon.

Just google it and every answer you find will be in favour of rengoku bro

[glacial wren]

i’ve read the manga so u aint spoiling much

[clever scroll]

that makes no sense

shes automatically the weakest cuz she lacks in physical strength 💀

with that logic obanai is the second weakest

[clever scroll]

tengen got no diffed by the weakest upper meanwhile a tired Rengoku was fighting Akaza until sunrise

you literally cannot compare the two without being biased as shit

[clever scroll]

again, with that logic obanai is the second weakest

she almost killed upper 2

majority of the hashira are not doing that

[clever scroll]

yes it is 💀

must i provide reasoning for each one

HASHIRA RANKING

9.Tengen: Barely kept up with the weakest uppermoon though he was given help from the kamaboko squad. Lost an arm and eye and was heavily poisoned. Was able to slow down the poison circulation and was able to go on parr with Upper 6 for a period of time after unlocking MST. Was able to behead Gyutaro with the help of marked Tanjiro.

8.Shinobu: Showed great relativity to Doma in terms of speed, even scaling higher. Was able to consistently land attacks regardless of the air slowing down her breathing. Was later hit once with a fatal blow but got up and started moving faster than he could read before pinning him to the ceiling. Interchangeable with Rengoku.

7.Rengoku: Was able to fight and keep up with an untrying Akaza after protecting a bunch if passengers from Lower 1. Was complimented by Akaza multiple times in terms of strength. Was able to hold a serious Akaza in place for long enough for the sun to almost reach him. Interchangeable with Shinobu

6.Mitsuri: Relative to Hantengu’s strongest form. Was almost able to behead him in base and held him off long enough for Tanjiro to defeat the main body. Was able to rip Muzan’s arms off with her bare hands and dodged several attacks.

5.Muichiro: Got one tapped by Gyokko in base form but was able to effortlessly behead him with mark. Swordsmanship was acknowledged by Kokushibo with only a few years of training. Had the most potential amongst the hashira.

4.Obanai: Was able to 1v1 Muzan for a short period. Unlocked red blade and was able to slice of Muzan’s arms and keep his tendrils at bay while protecting Tanjiro and Mitsuri. Was able to pin Muzan down by his neck and unlocked slayer mark in the process. Interchangeable with Giyuu.

3.Giyuu: Showed relativity to Akaza, was able to react to his attacks and land some on his own. Was one of the only hashira to consistently jump back into battle with Muzan with little time to rest. Fought Muzan keeping him at bay, and unlocked red blade and mark. Was still able to fight and hold back DKT. Interchangeable with Obanai.

2.Sanemi: Was able to 2v1 Kokushibo. Unlocked red blade and mark in the process fighting alongside Gyomei. Was able to show some relativity to Muzan with the other hashira.

1.Gyomei: No explanation needed.

[glacial wren]

where do you get your information from?????? Thats not even close

[clever scroll]

since you wanna downplay shinobu to the weakest since she lacks in physical strength why doesnt that apply to obanai

if hes the second weakest hashira why wouldnt he be 8th

and clearly physical strength doesn’t matter when a heavily fatigued Shinobu nearly killed upper 2 😭

[glacial wren]

that is a fair argument to make but even then, rengoku wasn’t poisoned. If neither of them were poisoned they’d perform amazingly, which rengoku did.

[clever scroll]

why was tengen poisoned in the first place

because he was blitzed and hit the first encounter

him being poisoned is not a feat

rengoku alone lasted longer against akaza than tengen lasted alone against gyutaro

[glacial wren]

both obanai and sanemi fought and were holding each others own. Obanai is an extremely powerful hashira and not the weakest whatsoever

[clever scroll]

thats not my point

hes physically the second weakest

therefore with your logic hes the second weakest

since shinobu is automatically the weakest due to lacking physical strength (we dont include any other stats since its shinobu)

[glacial wren]

the only thing going with shinobu is her speed and poison. If i put your logic to gyomei, he should be the weakest cuz he is blind and everyone else can see. It’s the same logic but it doesn’t work

[clever scroll]

how at all

is that the same logic

[glacial wren]

cuz they were fighting upper one

[glacial wren]

it’s the same dude

[clever scroll]

you’re saying someone is the weakest because of ONE stat

gyomei is the strongest for several reasons

with MY logic hes has plenty other stats to look at

im not basing it off of the fact hes blind

[glacial wren]

it’s a range of things but majorly it’s because she can’t even kill a demon without poison

[clever scroll]

in fact thats what you’re doing with physical strength lmao

what does that even mean

thats her main weapon

why are we downplaying her for having an alternative way of killing demons

its just as effective

[glacial wren]

because you have to take it into account dude

[dusky roost]

jamie_476 You’ve Reached Level 10

[glacial wren]

otherwise it’s biased

[clever scroll]

ok so

shinobu is the weakest PHYSICALLY so instead uses poison

since she kills demons in another way shes automatically the weakest

thats what im hearing you say unless im missing something

[glacial wren]

that’s not what i’m saying at all. Compared to the other hasira, she is one of the weakest

[clever scroll]

and i agree…

tengen existing

she isnt

she beats him in a 1v1 and outscales him BAY

BADLY

rengoku is debatable

so yea shes one of the weakest but thats common sense isnt it

[glacial wren]

I’d say tengen beats her easily. He’s faster then shinobu

[glacial wren]

how does she outscale him?

[clever scroll]

shinobu easily scales to doma without a win con

tengen was only ever relative to upper 6

after using mst

and he was relative for like

half a minute

[glacial wren]

doma wasn’t even trying at all

[clever scroll]

yea thats

the average shinobu downplayer argument

except her feats from that fight is outpacing him and him being serious or not is not relevant whatsoever

and still

an untrying doma > gyutaro

so my point still stands lol

[glacial wren]

it really is. You can’t compare other hashiras feast when either the demon was or wasn’t trying.

[clever scroll]

hey so

[glacial wren]

and then you can still argue the same with tengen and rengoku

[clever scroll]

show me a panel where doma ever is trying

his whole character is being unserious

so ill wait for you to give me an example of doma being serious

[glacial wren]

i said the opposite. He wasn’t trying

[clever scroll]

prove it

him internally monologuing that shes too fast to predict pretty much debunks your whole argument

[glacial wren]

above this message i said it

[clever scroll]

^

[glacial wren]

same can be said about tengen and even tanjiro

[clever scroll]

??

[glacial wren]

out of all the hashira, she is the weakest

that’s just it

End of

[clever scroll]

exactly

no argument

[glacial wren]

so why are u arguing the opposite?

[clever scroll]

thank you for proving to me shinobu downplayers have yet to get their facts in check

[clever scroll]

because im not sexist and i can look at a character without being biased

[glacial wren]

tf u mean? She is the weakest, that’s it

[clever scroll]

no argument

i debunked you and you gave up

thats that

[glacial wren]

it’s got nothing to do with sex bro. If that was the case i’d say mitsuri is aslo the weakest but she aint

[glacial wren]

dude you’re losing me. You never debunked me

[clever scroll]

prove to me tengen > shinobu without using false narratives and arbitrary lists

[glacial wren]

tengen is considered the 2nd strongest hashiras in terms of strength and shinobu is the weakest. Given tengen is a shinobi, his expereince is crucial when fighting shinobu. If they fought, tengen would win outright due to his destructive breathing (second to moon breathing’s destructiveness) and strength and speed. If shinobu was able to land a few pokes on tengen they would havevill effect due to the poisonbnot working on humans

[clever scroll]

dawg

again

you are literally

SCALING shinobu as the weakest

because of physical strength

the downplay never ends

and stop using ai

p;lease

[clever scroll]

also STILL HOLY DOWNPLAY\

its common sense if you have a sword you can kill a human

tengen isnt tanking a blitz through the skull

[glacial wren]

that wasn’t ai 🤦🏻‍♂️

[clever scroll]

explain to me

how shinobus

SWORD

isnt killing tengen

that makes no sense

at all

[glacial wren]

It can’t slice anyone the way a katana can. Have u seen her weapon??

[clever scroll]

yes?

the same one

that stabbed through upper 2's skull?

[glacial wren]

yeah stab not slice

[clever scroll]

ok sooooooo

your point

if i stabbed you through the skull with a sword would you die

[glacial wren]

also she stabbed him through the eye, not the skull

[clever scroll]

her sword

came out

the other end

ok so that checks out

you havent analyzed her fight against doma well enough

that explains alot

[glacial wren]

It didn’t

[clever scroll]

IT DID

do you need

the panel?

[glacial wren]

Find it sure

[clever scroll]

check dms

ok so now

tell me that didnt go through his skull

"tengen still beats shinobu"

you cant say that without implying

tengen is faster than doma

[glacial wren]

for anyone reading, i was wrong about ti going throught the skull

[clever scroll]

if shinobu was able to blitz doma through the skull

why isnt she doing the same

to a slower opponent

[glacial wren]

because there’s no need to go all out like that

waste of energy

[clever scroll]

wtf does that

even mean???

[glacial wren]

Does rengoku need to use his 9th form and a non kizuki?

[clever scroll]

if both are bloodlusted and are fighting to the death why wouldnt she be able to replicate what she did to doma

[glacial wren]

No he doesn’t, theres no need

[clever scroll]

this is a 1v1

both have a killing intent

shinobu is killing tengen

thats literally the argument

if they are trying to kill each other

why wouldnt she do that

yea.

[glacial wren]

whoops

didn’t mean to delete

yeah gtg, more important stuff has just happened 😔

[clever scroll]

well if anyone else has something to say abt this u can

[smoky heath]

I guess what he was trying to say is the reason why shinobu was able to go all out is because her opponent makes her very emotional or whatever

[dusky roost]

metalogics You’ve Reached Level 1

[clever scroll]

but im comparing both at their peak

so shinobu is still rage amped and tengen still has mst

[smoky heath]

Sure, but I don’t think you made that clear to him

[smoky heath]

That’s a silly claim btw

Like the predicates “…is faster than…” and “…beats…” obviously don’t have the same extension

[clever scroll]

speed is the most important stat in demon slayer

if tengen can behead

you are implying he could beat doma

if tengen is faster than shinobu

[smoky heath]

This does not address what I’ve just said

You do understand what I mean when I say that these two predicates don’t have the same extension, right?

The predicates “…beats…” and “…is faster than…”

[clever scroll]

what is your opinion

on this debate

[smoky heath]

That’s even worst than your previous reasoning btw

[smoky heath]

???

[smoky heath]

@clever scroll answer this question

[clever scroll]

im so confused

dont use big words on me pretty please

[smoky heath]

Which word do you not understand?

[clever scroll]

dumb it down a bit then i can answer

[clever scroll]

predicate

extension

[smoky heath]

Ok so ig the answer to my question was “no”. In that case, dont just answer something random: do try to understand what I’m saying first

Otherwise we won’t get anywhere

[smoky heath]

You don’t know what predicates are? Sure, but how old are you? Is English your first language? Do you know what verbs are for example?

[clever scroll]

can we just use

everyday words

can you dumb the question down a bit

im assuming youre saying

saying someone is faster than another person doesnt go to the extent of them being stronger than them because of that

and automatically being able to beat them

[smoky heath]

That’s just completely vague. “Predicate” is a common word, and it’s surprising that you don’t know it

[smoky heath]

@clever scroll do you know what a verb is?

A noun?

Do you know what nouns are?

[clever scroll]

of course

i know what verbs are

and nouns

[smoky heath]

Sure, in a sentence like “Bryce is cool”, “is cool” there is the predicate of that sentence

Is that clear to you?

[clever scroll]

so by removing the noun it becomes a predicate

[dusky roost]

b.ryc.e You’ve Reached Level 8

[smoky heath]

Well, typically removing nouns (and the words surround the noun like a determinant or an adjective) of a declarative sentence will give you a predicate

“A cool girl is walking down the street”, “is walking down the street” there is the predicate

Anyways that’s it for basic English

[clever scroll]

wait so how am i using that

[smoky heath]

Now, the extension of a predicate is the set of things that satisfy that predicate

[smoky heath]

??? 😭

[dusky roost]

metalogics You’ve Reached Level 2

[clever scroll]

you are killing my brain cells

[smoky heath]

[smoky heath]

Ugh, it’s not the case that x beats y implies that x is faster than y and vice-versa

[clever scroll]

in demon slayer

that is most definitely the case

[smoky heath]

It’s just not, ur confused

Let me give you a very simple counter example

Take some random guy in the Demon Slayer verse who is a very good runner, but who has never touched a sword for example. He will obviously get beaten by someone who’s bad at running but who has experience with wielding a sword

So that’s a simple counterexample to your silly claim

[smoky heath]

The only way to get out of this is to modify this claim

[clever scroll]

that isnt

the case

im not talking about everyone in demon slayer

im talking about high tier characters

uppermoons and hashiras

who all

know how to use their shit

it definitely comes down to speed if thats the case

[smoky heath]

Btw, even if we grant your silly claim (I.e. that beating someone implies being faster than them and vice-versa), it doesn’t imply that if Tengen beats shinobu, then Tengen beats Doma. “Beats” isn’t even an order relation

Like there’s intel needed to kill Doma, poison in this specific case

[clever scroll]

that wasnt my argument

i was arguing if shinobu could outpace doma and hit him she could do the same to tengen and kill him

tengen < doma

[smoky heath]

All you said was “in demon slayer”. As predicted you’re just changing your claim

You’re doing this dishonest move where you make a claim, then slightly tweak the claim after being refuted

[smoky heath]

As I predicted right there

Ur predictable

[clever scroll]

i thought it was obvious who i was talking about

why would i be talking about random lesser demons and slayers when the argument is between two hashira

the thought of them not knowing how to use swords

didnt come to me

[smoky heath]

Yeah that’s not even the case under the silly claim, as I just explained to you. Are you tracking?

[clever scroll]

no

i still stand with my claim

if two hashira have good swordsmanship and know how to use their abilities

what does it come down to

whos landing the first hit

[smoky heath]

All you were saying is that, in demon slayer, beating someone implies being faster than them. That’s what you were saying word for word. Now you want to dwindle your claim to just a few people

Not to mention that you never provided an argument for that claim

You just made the claim and never elaborated (and only received a beatdown by me)

[clever scroll]

that is literally the case with the hashira and uppermoons

[smoky heath]

You cant just ignore the argument I provide and say “no I still accept my claim” looool

Me: provides a well thought out refutation to his silly claim
Him: no, I still accept my claim (no elaboration)

[smoky heath]

Ur just repeating the claim, but this time for a lesser domain

Literally as I predicted

[clever scroll]

literally no

[smoky heath]

Anyways let’s see you make an argument for that claim

[clever scroll]

im talking about hashira and uppermoons

im sorry if my mind wasnt thinking about

[smoky heath]

Now you are

[clever scroll]

irelevant slayers

who dont know how to use swords

[smoky heath]

Nope u were talking about “in demon slayer”

You said it yourself

[clever scroll]

yes because every relevant character knows how to use a sword?

[smoky heath]

Just quit coping and make an argument for your claim @clever scroll

I already know there’s no point on me taking the strong stance here, since you’ll just change your claim again and again

So let’s see you defend the claim

[smoky heath]

That’s not even true

Lmao

The cope is insane

[clever scroll]

name a relevant character

who doesnt know how to use a sword

[smoky heath]

Does Tanjiro’s sister know how to wield a sword in your view?

[clever scroll]

tanjiros sister is a demon?

name a slayer?

[smoky heath]

😂

[clever scroll]

im waiting

[smoky heath]

Bro went from “relevant character” to “relevant slayer”

Look I can tell ur one of those

[clever scroll]

its common sense

it is LITERALLY common sense

[smoky heath]

Ur one of those ppl who change their claims every time they’re refuted

[clever scroll]

no demons use swords except for a few exceptions

if u cant understand that from the get go

you need to get your facts in check

name a relevant character who doesnt know how to use a sword

[smoky heath]

You were the one who couldn’t understand this, since you said “every relevant character knows how to wield a sword”

[dusky roost]

metalogics You’ve Reached Level 3

[smoky heath]

Literally changing your claims, ur blatant

[clever scroll]

oh my god u are a literal wall

watch demon slayer then come back to me

[smoky heath]

I just stop ppl from trying to wiggle like you

I know you probably do this often

Like you say some blatantly false things, get refuted and then try to wiggle out of it

[clever scroll]

im sorry i cant elaborate it to the point someone who hasnt watched demon slayer would understand

but seriously

watch it first

then get back to me

[smoky heath]

I’m not letting you wiggle anywhere. I’m taking you accountable for your claims

[smoky heath]

I did watch demon slayer

Now ur just lying lol

Anyways come back to me when you’re done wiggling (you tried to do it twice btw)

I destroyed these two claims of yours:

1. beating someone implies being faster than them
2. Every relevant demon slayer character knows how to wield a sword

Ur finished @clever scroll

I think ur the one who should go watch demon slayer if u don’t know that not every relevant character knows how to wield a sword

[clever scroll]

actual dumbass im afraid

[smoky heath]

Indeed you are

[clever scroll]

sorry common sense isnt so common with you

but my point still stands

name a relevant character who doesnt know how to use a sword

and dont be a smart ass

[smoky heath]

How much of a dumbass do you have to be to claim “every relevant demon slayer character knows how to wield a sword”

[clever scroll]

and name a character who isnt using a sword in the first place

[smoky heath]

Like either ur profoundly stupid or u just haven’t watched the anime

[clever scroll]

how much of a dumbass do you need to be to not understand im talking about characters who use them in the first place…

no shit im not talking about demons who dont use a sword

[smoky heath]

😂 😂

[clever scroll]

its surface knowledge they wouldnt know how

but anyway

ill wait for you to answer

[smoky heath]

Now @clever scroll ‘s claim is “every demon slayer character that knows how to wield a sword knows how to wield a sword”

So now, either you’re a profound moron who just says obvious and irrelevant things, or you’re lying and that’s not what you meant

The latter option is probably the correct one

[proper marten]

WTH is happening here

[smoky heath]

Just giving this moron a beatdown

[proper marten]

I can see

Never wanna have an beef with you

[smoky heath]

😭

[proper marten]

Ur scary

[clever scroll]

hes just

annoying

if you dont elaborate to his common sense level he’ll call you out and be a smart ass

its common sense i was talking about characters who use a sword in the first place

im sorry i didnt elaborate so you could understand

but thats not my problem

[proper marten]

Do you know how some people play the game and don’t even have tester or sum because I see clips on exploit

[long ridge]

@proper marten Tester is unobtainable. #❓│faq

[smoky heath]

No one is going to buy this btw. Everyone knows that this isn’t what you meant:

every demon slayer character that knows how to wield a sword knows how to wield a sword

And even if it is what you meant, it’s both obvious and irrelevant

[clever scroll]

obvious yet you couldnt understand it

yikes

SERIOUS mental issues

but now since you know what im talking about

answer my questions

[smoky heath]

Oh yeah right, I totally can’t understand the claim “every demon slayer character that knows how to wield a sword knows how to wield a sword”

[clever scroll]

you know what i meant

you just decided to be a smart ass

[smoky heath]

Like come on dude, you really think people will buy this performance of yours?

[clever scroll]

so answer it now

[smoky heath]

Answer what? 😭

[clever scroll]

name a relevant character who doesnt know how to use a sword in demon slayer (characters being the ones who use swords in the first place cuz no shit)

[smoky heath]

As I said, if your claim is just:

every demon slayer character that knows how to wield a sword knows how to wield a sword

Then it’s just a tautology and completely irrelevant to what I told you so far

[clever scroll]

^

ill wait

[smoky heath]

Like I get it, you’re drooling on a wheelchair

[clever scroll]

^

[smoky heath]

I already did that

[clever scroll]

you said nezuko

does she use a sword?

nope

so try again

[smoky heath]

I named a relevant character that doesn’t know how to wield a sword

Just like you asked

[clever scroll]

^ill wair

[smoky heath]

Poor thing

[clever scroll]

ill wait

[smoky heath]

Do you know what “relevant character” means?

[clever scroll]

why are you dodging

just answer it

[smoky heath]

Ur the only one dodging

I did answer it

[clever scroll]

ill wait

[smoky heath]

For the second ti

[clever scroll]

answer it

does nezuko use a sword? no

so try again

[smoky heath]

Sorry you lack the social awareness to see that I answered it

[clever scroll]

cmon ill wait

[smoky heath]

Is nezuko a relevant character?

[clever scroll]

stop dodging and answer

[smoky heath]

Is nezuko a relevant character? You

[clever scroll]

^

i dumbed it down to your level

[smoky heath]

^

[clever scroll]

so now answer

ill wait

[smoky heath]

Dumbed it down to your level

I’m waiting

Is nezuko a relevant character?

[green kernel]

Rengoku > giyuu

Base

[smoky heath]

Is nezuko a relevant character?

Running

It’s ok Bryce, everyone sees you lost

[clever scroll]

oh fuck naw trust me the new movie proves otherwise

[proper marten]

Yo

[clever scroll]

im waiting

[dusky roost]

zzyx15 You’ve Reached Level 1

[green kernel]

Akaza in movie stated that kyojuro (re Goku )was stronger than akaza also rengoku was heavily nerfed during fighting akaza

[clever scroll]

dont dodge now

[smoky heath]

Is nezuko a relevant character?

[green kernel]

Lol

[clever scroll]

does she use a sword? didnt think so

next

ill wait

[smoky heath]

Ignore him he’s very mentally ill

[green kernel]

Actually the opposite

I have the same screen shot

[clever scroll]

have u seen the movie

[green kernel]

No one wanna debate me

[clever scroll]

he was popping off

[smoky heath]

Oh but Is nezuko a relevant character?

[clever scroll]

oh but does she use a sword

didnt think so

[green kernel]

Number 1 akaza stated rengoku was stronger

[smoky heath]

Oh but Is nezuko a relevant character?

[clever scroll]

mmm ill wait

[smoky heath]

Do think so

[clever scroll]

you keep dodging

why is that?

you cant answer my question?

[smoky heath]

And you keep getting fried

[green kernel]

And rengoku was already tired from the saving people in the carage

[clever scroll]

yetttt you cant answer my question

jeez you are hopeless

[clever scroll]

trust me he was not

[smoky heath]

Ironic, ur unable to comprehend that nezuko is a relevant character

[clever scroll]

hashiras dont get tired from slashing at flesh

[green kernel]

And akaza compass makes akaza stronger the better fighting spirit the slayer has

This was stated

[clever scroll]

cry harder

[green kernel]

By akaza

[green kernel]

Himself

[clever scroll]

cope you cant answer my question

😭😭😭😭

[clever scroll]

have you seen the movie

srs question

[green kernel]

Also akaza strength was stronger than akaza even with the compass

[green kernel]

Have you read my statements

I have a screenshot

[clever scroll]

im not saying youre wrong im just asking

[green kernel]

Of akaza saying rengoku stronger

[green kernel]

I haven’t yet I read manga only

[smoky heath]

“Every relevant character knows how to wield a sword” is false, because:

1. Nezuko is a relevant character
   And
2. Nezuko can’t wield a sword.

This is elementary level logic. But tbf, you didn’t even know what predicates were cuz ur a moron, so not surprising that u can’t understand basic logic.

Anyways that’s all I have to say

Get absolutely dogged on

[clever scroll]

they exaggerate everything in the movie

[clever scroll]

not reading allat

ill wait for u to answer my question little boy

[smoky heath]

Cry harder

[clever scroll]

seems like youre the one crying

[green kernel]

Still rengoku outsped akaza in some moments

[smoky heath]

All I hear is cope

[green kernel]

And even praised him

[clever scroll]

so was giyuu trust me the movie did wayyyy too fucking much

[proper marten]

I think muichiro full potential would absolutely slam upper moon 1

[green kernel]

You don’t wanna give statements your just talking about the movie

[clever scroll]

im not

saying youre wrong

im telling you the movie

[green kernel]

That’s like saying rengoku with marksolos muzan

You can’t just say random shit

[clever scroll]

overexxagerated everything so him vs akaza in thr manga may not be as rleevant

[green kernel]

Then what about the manga

[clever scroll]

i havent analyzed that much about the manga but from what i remember giyuu was low diffed by akaza right

[green kernel]

Yes

[clever scroll]

giyuu is below akaza in a base hashira ranking anyways

NOT AKAZA

rnegoku

hes below rengoku in a base ranking

[green kernel]

Idk but base wise rengoku stronger i could argue about mark tho

[proper marten]

No he had the most potential from all of the hashira

[clever scroll]

base rengoku is stronger than giyuu

wait

i hav emy list

[green kernel]

Listen you can’t say shit about potential

[proper marten]

I can but if you say so

[green kernel]

It’s like saying saitama with his inf potential solos anime

[green kernel]

Okay since saitama has inf potential he solos anime

[proper marten]

It’s not?

[smoky heath]

Not every relevant ds character knows how to wield a sword, cuz nezuko is a relevant ds character and doesn’t know how to wield a sword

[green kernel]

Are you deadass slow or are you rage baiting

[clever scroll]

9.Muichiro 8.Tengen 7.Mitsuri 6.Obanai 5.Giyuu 4.Rengoku 3.Shinobu 2.Sanemi 1.Gyomei

@green kernel

[proper marten]

If you say so

[clever scroll]

thats my base ranking

[smoky heath]

Calm down?

Why does this guy think anybody will care ab his garbage list btw?

[green kernel]

🫠

[clever scroll]

it kind of is

[proper marten]

💷⛏️

[clever scroll]

you cant scale someone based on potential

[smoky heath]

Imaging scaling based on speed only

[dusky roost]

metalogics You’ve Reached Level 4

[smoky heath]

Literally bottom level retardedness

[proper marten]

So you wanna tell me an 20-30 years old muichiro is like an 14 year old muichiro?

[clever scroll]

awww

still mad?

its ok

[smoky heath]

Who pinged me?

[clever scroll]

maybe get a breath of fresh air to help cool down

[proper marten]

Based on strength and everything

[smoky heath]

Yeah defo not

Ur right

[proper marten]

Yeah

And muichiro still hold a bit up against upper moon 1

[smoky heath]

Some ppl just can’t see that far, but yeah if we want a fair rating, we’d need same age comparaisons or whatever

[proper marten]

At 14 years old

[smoky heath]

😭

Literally insane

[smoky heath]

That’s one of the reasons why power scaling in general is kinda just a fruitless endeavour

There are too many unknowns and factors that need to be compared

Some of which are not even quantifiable

Typically you’ll need to simply ignore those factors if you want to do any power scaling at all

[proper marten]

And he was an reincarnation of yoriichi like the series said

[dusky roost]

zzyx15 You’ve Reached Level 2

[smoky heath]

Yeah well he’s a descendant or whatever

[proper marten]

Yeah

Sum like that

[smoky heath]

@proper marten btw thoughts on this

You seem more honest and open minded than that other moron

Who was trying to power scale solely based on speed

[proper marten]

Thank you I mean no 14 years old demon slayer kid would find his own breathing style accept yoriichi

[smoky heath]

True

Probs idk

[proper marten]

Yess

😼

[smoky heath]

But this @proper marten

Me rambling about why power scaling is a silly endeavour

[proper marten]

Yeah

Well I think

You won

[glacial wren]

bruh that debate with bryce was stupid as. I was trying to say that tengeb beats shinobu but he was twisting it to match his view 🗿😭

thank you for shutting him up

[glacial wren]

bryce was trying to say that shinobu is one of the strongest hasira and i debated saying she wasn’t. His argument was basically she diffed doma. I argued that tengen would beat shinobu from these factors and he was saying that im an average sexist shinobu hater cuz i’m poiting out her strength is crap and can’t behead a demon.

i was giving points about how tengen would won based off other factors but he wouldn’t here it and basically did what you saw

[heady nacelle]

what the hell did I miss

[heady nacelle]

yo what happened

[smoky heath]

He’s just clueless lol, leave him be

He literally said at some point that “every relevant demon slayer character knows how to wield a sword”

Literally brain damage behaviour

[glacial wren]

Literally just had the debate with my friend earlier and he’s like “tengen would easily beat shinobu”

[glacial wren]

omg read the chat bro

it was mental

[tame rampart]

<@&641761758549114897> ban these

[foggy forge]

👍

[tame rampart]

ty

[tame rampart]

@glacial wren its scams

so good thing you cant see them

[glacial wren]

Ahhhhh i see. Those stupid mr beast gave me $$$ by doing these steps thing?

[tame rampart]

yeah

or a different variation of it

[glacial wren]

thxxxx 😍

[heady nacelle]

Hey so like, I like your pfp

[tame rampart]

thanks

[proper marten]

Rizz?

I Show u rizz

[proper marten]

I like ur teeth

[heady nacelle]

So um,

What brand’s your microwave?

[proper marten]

Um I Like ur toe

[dusky roost]

zzyx15 You’ve Reached Level 3

[proper marten]

Ur a femboy?

☺️

[heady nacelle]

No I do

[proper marten]

NO ME😡

[heady nacelle]

Nope

[proper marten]

Yes

Woah

[heady nacelle]

YO

I SAW THAT

[proper marten]

WHO Said that

NAW THATS CRAZY

[tame rampart]

i dont own a microwave

[proper marten]

TZAhaha

[tame rampart]

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[heady nacelle]

What if I like, gift you one?

[proper marten]

Normal question

[heady nacelle]

Alr bro-

[proper marten]

You got an Washing Maschine if not

I could give you one

[proper marten]

Wow

U Said that

[proper marten]

I know ur a femboy but I can’t Proof it

💷⛏️

[heady nacelle]

I’m into femboys anyways

[proper marten]

Dexter killed ur small ass

[proper marten]

Yeah

[heady nacelle]

No his plan was evil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236429983312904273/1405052033962217493/attachment.gif

[proper marten]

I love femboy Foots Can you Show me Ur foot

[proper marten]

Nuh uh

[heady nacelle]

Wait no don’t ping

[proper marten]

U KILLED BATISTA

[heady nacelle]

You gotta wait patiently

[proper marten]

[proper marten]

For a Perfect Woman (femboy) I would do anything 😼

[heady nacelle]

Eh

[proper marten]

Huh

My plan is evil

More than anything else

[tame rampart]

i dont need one

i have one i can use

[proper marten]

Sooo back to my question

Yes or Yes

?

Wow

Kylie Jenner

Sorry that in Talking to you am I even allowed to speak to you

I thought were together 😔

🫠

🤯

Genjutsu of that Level won’t work on me

Huh

[tame rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-cope-seethe-mald-gif-24939392

[proper marten]

..

You think UR BETTER THAN ME

[long adder]

yes

[glacial wren]

damn, all this talk of femboys?
Y’all gonna love me then lol

[heady nacelle]

yo what if I lowk have a crush on you

[proper marten]

WAIT UR A FEMBOY

[proper marten]

She’s my Girl

👻

[heady nacelle]

Mine

[proper marten]

No

[glacial wren]

Maybe. 🤫😋
I def got the legs haha

[proper marten]

Huh

Proof

[tame rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-james-doakes-dexter-jamss-doaxes-staring-when-you-know-gif-10152841660313287334

[heady nacelle]

so like

how many toes do you have

okay sorry

[glacial wren]

$$??

[hollow storm]

roblox good college bad

[heady nacelle]

agreed, no debate there

[heady nacelle]

yo can I take you out?

[tame rampart]

where

[heady nacelle]

umm, out

[hard hare]

Heard talk of femboys

Where dey at

[glacial wren]

I was summoned?

[hard hare]

Are you the prophecy fortold

?

[glacial wren]

depends on the prophecy

[hard hare]

The prophecy only spoke of someone of gold. and I've come searching

[glacial wren]

Ah, i thought you were refering to the one of femboys. Oh well wrong treasure x

[hard hare]

Maybe I was looking for the femboy prophecy all along. Guess I just struck gold twice.