🤬│debate

[inland warren]

• omg he’s about to get stabbed
• teammate joins 2v1

[vestal sable]

OOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[tame rampart]

Lmao

[tame rampart]

Wow how did you get wuwa tag

[vestal sable]

I just clieked smthing

[sudden token]

el servidor de los demons cual es dx?

[hallow surge]

It's 2025

People still think Akaza is faster than Gyomei

[tame rampart]

So true, lei mei solos

[torn grotto]

Ay si un español

#👀│factions-and-ingame-ranking

[torn grotto]

Ahí lo encuentras, tendrás que esperar unas horas o menos para que te acepten

[hollow vault]

What feats does Gyomei have. Btw fyi you complaining abt it being late for that, but you were a bit late for the debate buddy

[tame rampart]

None, lei mei solos

[storm plank]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vestal sable]

yeray9910 You’ve Reached Level 2

[torn grotto]

Ya 😔
Oye tú juegas volei?

[vestal sable]

vitriatis You’ve Reached Level 4

[storm plank]

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[torn grotto]

Yo también

[storm plank]

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[torn grotto]

España

[storm plank]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[torn grotto]

Soy y vivo

Y tú?

[storm plank]

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[storm plank]

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[torn grotto]

Que guay

[vestal sable]

@tame rampart Nooooooooooo la politzia noooooooooo

[tame rampart]

Nooooo

[pearl urchin]

strong

[muted meadow]

.

[vestal sable]

Mobile

mobile controls

[lime lily]

lilly you so chopped

[inland warren]

💀🙏

[foggy forge]

Preach

[heady cloud]

Germany is the best country

Es lebe Deutschland

[tame rampart]

Why

[heady cloud]

Because it is

[tame rampart]

It's not a real country

[heady cloud]

Then im just not real?

[tame rampart]

Nope

[heady cloud]

thats like me saying my german shep doesnt exsist because it wasnt concived in germany

[dusky roost]

marine.ptsd You’ve Reached Level 4

[heady cloud]

thats idiotic

[tame rampart]

Germany doesn't exist

[heady cloud]

americans dont exsist

[tame rampart]

Indeed

[heady cloud]

…..

you dont exsist no more

[tame rampart]

I'm not American

[heady cloud]

your organs dont exsist anymore

enjoy life without skin

[tame rampart]

So do I not have organs or skin ?

[heady cloud]

Skin is an organ

and the largest organ on the body

also one of the best healing organs

[tame rampart]

Yeah but you said organs

And then split skin apart from the rest

[heady cloud]

because life without skin sucks

[tame rampart]

Logically If I dont have organs, I lost much more than just skin

[heady cloud]

IM GONNA EAT YOUR HEART FR

[tame rampart]

I think if I'm missing organs I'm missing my heart

So you can't

[heady cloud]

maybe then someone will love me 😭

[tame rampart]

You cant cuz I'm missing organs

[heady cloud]

fuuuuuuuuu good point

I award you the smarter then willow award and nominate you for the 2025 june ice bucket challange

[lunar storm]

STUPID

[pearl turtle]

Wow

What a silly little conversation guys

[formal mantle]

Decent country

[formal mantle]

I agree

One of the most pointless conversations I've seen in this server

[heady cloud]

We are better

Built on beer

[quiet fossil]

lithuania better

built on VODKA

[heady cloud]

That's Russia

Find something new

[tame rampart]

The whole of Eastern Europe is

[quiet fossil]

vodka was made in lithuania <3

so shush

[quiet fossil]

doesnt take away my original point

[tame rampart]

I never said it didn't, im just saying the whole region is

Lithuania js indeed part of Eastern Europe

[tame rampart]

Crazy statement when Poland and Russia exist

[quiet fossil]

what

i remember reading that

that vodka originates from a lithuanian city thats now polish or something

it doesnt matter vodka is great

[vestal sable]

Alcohol shit

Alcohol bad

Alcohol nono

Alcohol nasty

[tame rampart]

What lmao

What city

Cuz none of the land that poland owns now were ever under Lithuania

[quiet fossil]

i dont know it was like years ago

but yes a good chunk of it was

good chunk is over stating

it wasnt a lot but it was a city im pretty sure

okay i retract my previous statements

it is infact polish

[tame rampart]

Mmmm not really

[tame rampart]

Fair enough

But don't worry

Polish Lithuanian brotherhood is strong

Two nations united as one

[formal mantle]

Agreed

[tame rampart]

Glory to the commonwealth

[heady cloud]

But it's more known as a Russian drink

[tame rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-lithuania-polish-lithuanian-commonwealth-gif-7973168713823096981

[quiet fossil]

its an eastern european drink

i would know i have a bottle right next to me

[heady cloud]

I have a bottle of beer next to me :D

Prost!

[tame rampart]

Nasty

Imagine drinking

I have a bottle of vitamin and mineral water

We arent the same

[quiet fossil]

its okay im troubled

[tame rampart]

Buy an oshee

[quiet fossil]

what is

what

[tame rampart]

Much better thwn alcohol

[quiet fossil]

mm dk bout that chief

[tame rampart]

I do

[quiet fossil]

do u drink

alcohol

obv

[tame rampart]

I have drank a fair share in the past

And im much happier without it

[quiet fossil]

why do u insist on that

[tame rampart]

Much healthier

[quiet fossil]

u make it seem like ur just faking being german

no not u

the willow person

[tame rampart]

Oh

Thought it was to me

[quiet fossil]

theres more to being german than beer and erika

like bratwurst

[tame rampart]

Bmw

Audi

[quiet fossil]

volkswagen

[tame rampart]

Opel

[vestal sable]

Mercedes

[quiet fossil]

i thought mercedes was french

[tame rampart]

It's German no?

[quiet fossil]

german

[tame rampart]

France has citroen and Peugeot

[quiet fossil]

jesus im horrible with my countries

[tame rampart]

Do you know neighbours of Lithuania?

[quiet fossil]

yes i know the globe and maps ofc

but like countries that own stuff apparently not

to answer u

[tame rampart]

Good enough then

[quiet fossil]

latvia kalingrad poland

and belarus

forgot that one

[tame rampart]

I mean

Kaliningrad isn't a country

But I get the idea

[quiet fossil]

well i didnt wanna say russia and get noted down for it

but i dont think it mattered 😭

[tame rampart]

Lmao

Russia would be correct since they own kaliningrad

But I get the idea

[vestal sable]

Maybe prussia

[quiet fossil]

they shouldnt lithuania should have it muahahahaha

[tame rampart]

Tutonic order at that

[tame rampart]

I say we split 50/50

[quiet fossil]

as an ambassador of lithuania we say that its OURS

dibs

[quiet fossil]

wdym we

[tame rampart]

Theoretically it's rightfully polish

[quiet fossil]

ur polish???

[tame rampart]

Yea

[quiet fossil]

cool

but no its mine cuz i said so

dominicland

[heady cloud]

DEUTSCHLAND RAAAAAHHHH

[quiet fossil]

ge tout

shoo

[heady cloud]

Nein

I will murder u

[tame rampart]

We split fr

[heady cloud]

I'm gonna invade Poland and Lithuania in a war sim if I lose I'll give you both nitro

[quiet fossil]

try me mf

u WILL lose

loud and proud

[heady cloud]

Hmmm bet~

[quiet fossil]

fuck off

holy shit

[heady cloud]

Oh you ment in a fight? No thanks

[quiet fossil]

meant*

[heady cloud]

I'm good

[heady cloud]

I'm German idk the fucking difference between a hole bunch of words

[quiet fossil]

whole

im too tired

all of my stress from exams is done

im gonna eat my burtger

[heady cloud]

Fuck u Grammer police

[heady cloud]

I WANT BURGERS BUT IM STUCK GOING TO FUCKING OLIVE GARDEN

[quiet fossil]

u keep feeding this shit to me bro

grammar*

[heady cloud]

I'm gonna invade you

[quiet fossil]

try it

u will fail

i am awesome

[long adder]

https://tenor.com/view/stfu-shut-up-stop-shut-your-mouth-shut-it-down-gif-20324546

[inland warren]

https://tenor.com/view/sybau-ts-pmo-gif-2102579015947246168

[digital zinc]

Crazy

[tame knoll]

Are we gonna have sun breathing in HinoKami

[chilly walrus]

This game dauert so long bro

[opaque coral]

Damn u got bad reviews

[tame rampart]

Bad ideas with bad reviews

[opaque coral]

Frfr

Lol

[inland warren]

yes ☺️

[storm osprey]

Pls add breath training in mobile

[blazing briar]

When's hinokami coming out?

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[river crescent]

Wat

2020 was so cooked

[vestal sable]

manjiro > urama

Strongest mid slayer fans vs the weakest ubel armpit lovers

[frigid tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384218127809904712/1385203255948218428/image.png?ex=68553690&is=6853e510&hm=7286b0232a82fe7c64c32e5f53798f46e2ed96a512ad7e4c65acbac6e2bdbb15&
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[pastel mason]

Mugen or Hinokami and this saturday Mugen comes out and alone when You See a fight in MUGEN it feels like you are watching an Anime fight I Thinge Mugen is better than Hinokami and I think hinokami will Never be released

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[dusky roost]

reyrey0459 You’ve Reached Level 1

[pastel mason]

You See there it will be no Date where ist comes out because it will never come out this game will be in Progress forever

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[tame rampart]

Okay

[dusky roost]

mikey_nea has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[polar root]

🦤 vs 🫏

[pale acorn]

Muzan beats kokushibo MID DIFFICULTY

[quiet fossil]

isnt that

obvious

i remember arguing wit someone that thought goku couldnt beat muzan

[tame rampart]

Goku solos

[quiet fossil]

goku solos the whole verse

literally

that bro could just blow everything up

boom boom pow

[shrewd hamlet]

Let's be real Muzan gets high diffed by deku just because of plot armour

[drifting iron]

Is dkt NOT immortal😭

[quiet fossil]

who

[dusky roost]

1a2a3a_4 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[wary fern]

Mid slayer

[drifting iron]

Demon king tanjiro

[tame rampart]

Yes

[wary fern]

Have u sleep well?

Idk why I'm asking dumb questions but anyways

[tame rampart]

Fantastically

[queen gazelle]

Is there any way that I can get moon breathing still? I mean if I had it I honestly would play the game again even if I had the weakest version of it

[dark sphinx]

weakest version is 1 move on biwa :D

[mental basalt]

U cant get moon breathing

[glacial wren]

Only certain players can get moon and sun breathing. Pretty sure they're like devs or high ranking people in the game and community. Don't quote me tho

[fleet zephyr]

What's the top 4 best breathings?

[digital zinc]

creeper breathing 💀

[digital zinc]

1. creeper breathing 2. wolf breathing 3. scary bug breathing 4. walter breathing 5. mod breathing

[fleet zephyr]

Wait there's a breathing named after me?

[digital zinc]

ye trust

[fleet zephyr]

Creepers explode and a breathing called sound breathing uses explosions do you mean that?

[digital zinc]

how did yoi know 🤯

[fleet zephyr]

bazinga

[fervent jolt]

Hi guys

@tame rampart Hi, umm how long I wait for my approval joining in demon group?

[tame rampart]

Eventually

[fervent jolt]

Good morning ma'am/sir I get ban for no reason I playing last night and I know what i did I just helping new player in demon slayer rpg 2 and being friendly into other player as a demon and now I get ban😢😢

I remember yesterday Im good to other player and playing lonely I did not do anything I just playing respectful and helping please fix this i buy my robux to your game pass please fix it🥹🥹

"Foxmanhh"

I'm playing this game since im 14☹️☹️

[feral plover]

chat

is lebron not better then kd?

and can bronny not beat catlin clark 1v1?

[vestal sable]

Wally west victims

[feral plover]

lol

nih

[tame rampart]

Diddy solos

[feral plover]

ni

[tame rampart]

Nice

[dusky roost]

milesmorales3602 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[drifting iron]

Ruffles clears lays any day 🤣🤣✌️✌️

[tame rampart]

Waffles better

[long adder]

Waffles... Haven't had in years but..

[quiet fossil]

i've never had waffles

[tame rampart]

Try some when you can

[quiet fossil]

we dont really have them in the UK

[tame rampart]

That's a lie

I've had waffles in the UK

[quiet fossil]

well where did you go

if you say london then thats obvious

london is tourist destination no1

go out to bumfuck nowhere surrounded by old people in a village i honestly havent seen waffles anywhere

[tame rampart]

You can buy a packet of premade waffles at a local Tesco bro

😭

But I also saw them at a dessert shop in the west midlands

Where I used to live

[quiet fossil]

ngl i havent been to a tesco in a while

like a month or two ago

i didnt even think they'd sell waffles

arent waffles like kinda sweet

[tame rampart]

It's like a pancake

[quiet fossil]

i had a pancake when i was like 5 and i dont remember what it was like

[tame rampart]

Oh lol

That's a crazy time with no pancakes

[dark sphinx]

now ask him if he has had an empanada

[vestal sable]

Magnus Carlsen vs Hikaru Nakamura. Who's winning in a game of blitz chess (Magnus is blindfolded to make it fairer)

[magic fossil]

Just got one today 🙂

[patent marten]

Naruto full power Baryon mode>one piece verse

[summer radish]

Kid Himawari > Naruto (Baryon Mode)

[quiet fossil]

mmm sorry pal no

[patent marten]

Im sorry one piece fandoms power scaling is horrible

[dusky roost]

godz0774 You’ve Reached Level 1

[quiet fossil]

naruto is not allat

[tame rampart]

Power scaling sucks

[patent marten]

Yea narutos not allat he's just better

Stronger

Faster

Smarter

He is better

[summer radish]

tbh i think GNW4 Naruto beats G5 Luffy

[vestal sable]

on a scale of Chuck Norris power ratings nothing in the universe even scales to a singular atom of that man

[unreal sonnet]

There is

[unreal sonnet]

EVERYONES BETTER

[dusky roost]

cauasousa. has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[dusky roost]

jxtday has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[north elbow]

shinobu wouldve been top 5 if she had more physical strength 🌚

[tame rampart]

Shinobu is top 1

[worthy inlet]

🫩

[trim field]

Ya I am 😏

[tame rampart]

Who are you

[trim field]

..

[trim field]

I am saying on the behalf of shinobu 🥀

[long adder]

i don't like shinobu 💔

[vestal sable]

why !haori on doesn't work anymore... like bro 100K for nothing

[swift ocean]

Was never a command

Go click it again

[vestal sable]

ty

[winged raptor]

Erm

[red vigil]

Gurren Lagann is one of the least hated animes

[tame rampart]

i hate it

[red vigil]

Sure you do pal

Whatever you say

[tame rampart]

Yeah I hate it

Honestly most mid waste of time

Applies to all mecha anime

[red vigil]

That makes you the first Gurren Lagann hater I've ever run into

[long adder]

idek what it is

[tame rampart]

huuuuuuuuuge

[red vigil]

Congratulations on missing out on cinema

To each their own of course

[tame rampart]

i aint missing out on anything

im living a blast

[red vigil]

Okay

[dusky roost]

butternumber1 You’ve Reached Level 1

[late hare]

I hate it

[red vigil]

Well

I can't tell you anything other than you're missing out

But I'm not here to persuade the minds of sheep

[late hare]

I ain't a sheep

[tame rampart]

Woah, relax there Mr no one hates this show

The sheep are on your side

[dusky roost]

ptit_soleil has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[dusky roost]

ryokio_ktz has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[fervent beacon]

Itachi cant beat pain

[brave herald]

gyomei slams akaza and douma

[torpid sierra]

No

[brave herald]

Yes

[heady nacelle]

whats your reasoning

[brave herald]

Gyomei was going 1v1 w koku for a good amount of time at full power and koku would speed blitz doma and Akaza

And W mark red blade and transparent world he easily wins

[heady nacelle]

Okay let's get this out of the way, kokushibo was testing both sanemi and gyomei during their entire fight until the long sword. That gave gyomei and the others time to level up and adapt to the fight. If kokushibo wanted to kill gyomei, he would've from the start. Second, if we're going off of "speed", douma was able to react to kokushibos perception blitz (chapter 99). And akaza isn't very far off from speed to douma. (though obv douma is faster). In order for gyomei to "kill" akaza, he'll need to bypass his compass needle. transparent world DOESN'T bypass this, the selfless state does (which is only obtained by sun breathing users from what we know) Akaza has better amps with this, it's stated his attacks are "aimed towards vital points like magnets" (chapter 149) and can sense any attack as long as the opponent has a fighting spirit and presence. The stronger the opponent's battle spirit is, the stronger his compass detects (chapter 152). EVEN IF gyomei beheads akaza, he can regenerate his head and continue fighting, Unless HE decides he wants to give up. This is only for akaza, you could only imagine for how much trouble he'll have against douma. If you want me to get into that, I could. This is all for fun and games. 😄

[brave herald]

Nah bro, Gyomei still takes Akaza. He’s canonically the strongest Hashira physically, which means more speed, power, and durability than most combined. His chain-and-flail keeps Akaza out of his comfort zone so he can’t just spam Compass Needle up close. And yeah, Compass Needle’s crazy, but it’s not perfect — Gyomei’s monk training lets him control his killing intent to create blind spots.

Akaza can regen his head, sure, but that’s not sustainable forever — Gyomei can smash him over and over until regen slows him down. And remember, Gyomei kept up with Kokushibo, who’s faster, has more range, and more techniques than Akaza. If he can adapt to Upper Moon 1 mid-fight, Akaza’s simpler style won’t stop him. Constant pressure + range advantage = Gyomei eventually lands the decisive blow.

[dusky roost]

qbvxs You’ve Reached Level 4

[heady nacelle]

did you use chatgpt?

[brave herald]

No why

[heady nacelle]

that was a very quick and ready response don't you think?

[brave herald]

I’m very educated on this subject

I’ve been a Gyomei fan for years

And I’m a fast typer

[heady nacelle]

I'm pretty sure no one uses "--" for typing 😭

[brave herald]

It’s basic grammar😭

Help

[heady nacelle]

I'm not gonna hold that against you if you used chatgpt but I'll still respond give me a moment

[brave herald]

Okkkk

[heady nacelle]

Okay, here's what I've learnt. Gyomei's "monk training" does NOT help you control killing intent and create blind spots. It helps you mentally calm during intense situation. This isn't exactly killing intent and help making blind spots. Akaza is known for his compass needle working on all of his opponents with the exception of tanjiro (because he has the selfless state, no other character was able to obtain this besides sun users). Akaza will overwhelm gyomei overtime before he's able to behead him even once. Gyomei is said to be the strongest hashira yes, but that doesn't mean he isn't human. Demons have near infinite stamina and will overall take it. But now lets get into "gyomei vs kokushibo". I already talked about this before in my previous paragraph, kokushibo was testing their strength the entire fight until he pulled out the long sword. He was only able to adapt to the Upper 1 fight because of kokushibo taking his time and for the plot to continue. Akaza's compass needle is literally perfect, only thing that's able to bypass this is the selfess state which no one could ever obtain (exception of sun users).

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 1

[brave herald]

Nah that’s not completely right. Gyomei’s monk training isn’t just staying calm, Gotouge confirmed he’s got enhanced sensory perception from fighting blind for years. He fights using sound, vibrations, and air displacement, which the manga shows in ch 170 and 171. Akaza’s Compass Needle works on killing intent, yes, but it’s still based on reading physical tells and intent. Gyomei doesn’t rely on standard visual cues at all, so his attack rhythm is already harder to read than any other Hashira’s.

Saying Akaza’s Compass Needle is literally perfect ignores what we see in the manga. Tanjiro in ch 151 and 152 bypasses it entirely with the selfless state, but even before that he was tagging Akaza without it activating every single time, showing Akaza can be pressured into slipping.

On stamina, sure demons have more, but Gyomei fought Upper Moon 1 while injured and protecting allies for an extended time in ch 166 through 170. Kokushibo wasn’t just holding back for plot, he literally compliments Gyomei’s combat sense and strength, saying his skill is near the realm of the transparent world before Gyomei even activated it. That’s not something you say to someone you’re toying with.

Bottom line, Gyomei’s range, strength, unconventional sensing, and ability to adapt in real time mean Akaza can’t just overwhelm him. The fight goes long enough for Gyomei to find a way in, and unlike Rengoku, Gyomei has the weapon reach and raw force to keep Akaza from ever fully taking control.

[heady nacelle]

Very good, but there's still some points missing. Gyomei's training was shown in both manga and anime that it's for staying calm in intense moments but it also does increase resilience (I completely forgot mentioning that the first time) I never disagreed with gyomei needing to use his surroundings and vibrations, though the compass needle is stated to be based on Fighting spirit, the only way he was able to "avoid kokushibo's field of view is because kokushibo doesn't have a permanent active compass telling him where every attack is coming from. Though he has Transparent world, it isn't exactly enough to counter the transparent world back.

You are right on Akaza slipping up a couple of times against tanjiro's fight by getting cut and damaged, but the compass's goal isn't to completely dodge every single attack thrown at you. It's meant to read vital spots and weak points on the opponents, and to dodge any fatal blow leading to decapitation. ONLY UNTIL tanjiro activated the selfless state, akaza wasn't able to detect anything at all (due to no killing intent and no fighting spirit).

For the stamina part, gyomei did carry most of the kokushibo fight and saved most of everyone, but he had the least amount of injuries (due to being so broken 😭). I did NOT say that kokushibo held back for the plot, I said that he was only able to ADAPT to the fight because of how long kokushibo took with them. Him adapting to the kokushibo fight was needed for the plot to continue on, otherwise they would've just lost. And again kokushibo never stated that gyomei was near the skill of transparent world before he even activated it, you must've misunderstood. He complimented gyomei because there hasn't been a hashira on the same strength of him in 300 years.

Back to akaza, I'm pretty sure I already explained everything in the first paragraph but I'll say it again. Even if gyomei does behead akaza (High-Extreme diff at max), he will regen his head and continue fighting.

[brave herald]

Infinite castle yeah Akaza can’t die unless cell destruction but if it were Gyomei vs Akaza till sunrise Gyomei is winning

[heady nacelle]

yeah i agree, if it's til sunrise gyomei has a 99% chance of winning if akaza doesn't escape

[brave herald]

Yeah

[heady nacelle]

you have good knowledge dude i wasn't expecting that 😭

[brave herald]

Thanks lol I read the manga like so many times

[heady nacelle]

bro samee demon slayer is peak

[brave herald]

Ong

Wait go to general

[heady nacelle]

ight

[vestal sable]

Fucking mid

[tame rampart]

Blocks of text just to describe mid is crazy indeed

[vestal sable]

The show is so mid the show doesnt explain its own power system and lets the fans do its own theories and confirmation

[tame rampart]

😭

[dusky roost]

waytohz has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[drifting iron]

Zenitsu destroys kanou

[heady nacelle]

I appreciate your opinion

[heady nacelle]

How so?

[drifting iron]

His seventh form destroys her

[heady nacelle]

is that your reasoning?

[drifting iron]

U got anything she can use to counter his seventh form, her vermilion eye risks blindness every time she uses it, and it’s not like it slows the attack down too much to the point where it’s completely in slow motion

[heady nacelle]

you do make some good points but you're missing a few

[drifting iron]

Such as

[heady nacelle]

you're right as in her vermilion eye does risk blindness everytime she uses it but it's not a constant need. I'm pretty sure you've noticed on how the kamboko squad has their own sense right?

tanjiro = smell
inosuke = touch
zenitsu = hearing

etc

kanao's special sense is her eyes, her eyes are able to keep up with upper 2 douma's attack speed, even dodging his fatal blows multiple times. She only really needed to use her vermilion eye against douma when he used his trump card the bodhisattva

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 2

[heady nacelle]

now lets move on to zenitsu rq

zenitsu has arguably the fastest attacks in demon slayer 😭

I won't disagree on that

but they're barely enough to take out kaigaku, the new and unexperienced upper 6

he wasn't really able to dodge his attacks and he was getting damaged left and right

though the moment he used his 7th form he got kaigaku

kaigaku wasn't able to see it at all

now I can't really assume that the 7th form "isn't precise"

but I can think of a few reasons on how it is. The only person we really saw him use that attack on was Kaigaku and a very weakened muzan

both their senses and reaction speed were extremely low due to kaigaku still being unexperienced, and muzan being weakened by 4 drugs at the same time

Now zenitsu was having trouble to defeat kaigaku, until that 7th form. but kanao was keeping up with douma's movements most of the fight, until her sword was taken.

She doesn't exactly need vermilion eye against zenitsu because her eyes are already special on their own

I feel as if her vermilion eye is her trump card because it does risk blindness

though zenitsu takes attack speed, and movement speed

but she for sure definitely takes reaction speed

Unless zenitsu gets extremely lucky by landing it the first time, I don't believe he'll be able to defeat kanao, because we know he can't use them more than once before his legs will get worn out

[heady nacelle]

I was kinda confused on this what does this mean

[vestal sable]

No proper power scaling and the author is too lasy to even point it out

Example: Gyomei > kokushibo > akaza > gyomei

And the author never confirmed the scaling so all of this is just fans making up theories and confirmations with the current info they have

In other animes take for example overlord, YGGDRASIL possess simple rules: Holy > Undead, Higher tier level > Lower tier level. Humans > Heteromorphic Creatures, Heteromorphic creatures > Humans. And all are equal but the opposing player has to use tactics to win and no counters unless the player’s build is meant to counter a specific build

Humans are the strongest there, however heteromorphic race have more versatility and have more access to racial class. And racial classes can be stacked depending on its abilities, however you have to be smart to stack these. As one wrong move could lead you to messing up your end-game and being restricted to max level cause of that one mistake.

And you have to handpick job classes with a certain amount of balance between versatility attack and adaptability

Example job class called cleric which means as a caster you have the ability to wield a weapon, if your job class is full magic caster your character wont allow you to swing a sword or use a weapon outside of your class

And if you build is pure warrior you’re limited to few magic spells, unless your job class is world champion which is obtained by YGGDRASIL’s official tournament WHICH is decided by wits, strength, strategy and so on.

All are equal but all can be countered, however there are some skills that are also meant to counter the counter. Which means it all depends on the mastery and strategy of the player

And the power scaling is simple yet vast, example the strongest weapons are called “world-items” and this can give the players the edge, HOWEVER can still BE defeated IF the player possesses a higher knowledge and has counters, is more versatile and clever.

And depending on the world items you cant just spam it, its meant for different purposes and such. And another world-item can shatter another world-item.

All are balanced and yet are not and these are sources from the overlord and the light novel itself.

Its not just me blabbering and its all confirmed by the author compared to demon slayer

Is this good enough?

I can give another example for frieren, in there mana control and manipulation are very important. Example: lugner vs fern, fern has less mana and less power, yet she has more control and has the ability to cast magic very quickly, and lugner who has very high mana and magic power, and has more experience compared to fern. However fern wins due to her being able to last longer on the fight despite lugner having a big advantage.

And the magic system in frieren is;

If you can visualize and believe it will happen you can cast it no matter how dumb. Because of this, Magic tends to be unique to the caster due to differences in what can/can’t visualize due to our perceptions.

Elven Magic tends to follow formulaic rules of logic. The advantage is that it's easier to reason yourself into certain spells that would normally be much harder to cast. Such as understanding how to make water boil because of the scientific principle. The downside is that you give up the power of raw instinct/delusion for precision. It's also easy to trap yourself in mental/magical locks if you're too logical that prevents you from advancing until you recognize them or reason your way out them.

Modern human magic is based off of elven Magic.
Old school human magic relied entirely on instinct, emotion, and faith. There was no logic. Just the belief that you could do something making it real.
Which is referred to as unstructured Magic and
"The wisdom of humans" by Seria.

Demon Magic isn't unique, but they do use a combination of formulaic and unstructual red magic via specialization. They basically focus on understating a single subject to such an extent that eventually your belief in that subject allows you act on pure instinct in unstructured ways, such as Macht's Golden transmutation or their ability to fly. Why can they fly? Why wouldn't they be able to fly? Why wouldn't you be able to walk?

And all are depicted on how hard or how versatile or how much power the spell has, take example frieren’s clone vs frieren and fern, frieren is considered one of THE strongest in the verse, and yet can still be killed by spamming zoltraak, a simple offensive skill?

And dont take my word these are all official statements

Wheres the official demon slayer sources?

I hope you can understand

[heady nacelle]

damn bro I don't need that explanation just tell me why you think so 😭, let me take a moment to read this

[vestal sable]

My bad

[heady nacelle]

you good

I'm not a demon slayer glazer I just enjoy the show

[vestal sable]

Good good

I take back my words

Good job

🙏

My deepest condolences as i thought you were a demon slayer glazer

[heady nacelle]

nah i just like the show and powerscale because I find it fun 😭

[dusky roost]

tjay_1717 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[heady nacelle]

I reread everything you said, and for this part I just use on what's given to us in the manga and common sense. unfortunately not everyone uses that

so many people are so wrong with tierscaling and powerscaling ;-;

[vestal sable]

Nods

Some Demon slayer glazers use whatever they can pull up their asses which are not confirmed by the author or the show

Its fine to enjoy but never claim the show is good, like if the author never really put any effort or the show being rushed or even authors hating its own show like JJK

A great show is based on its story progress, character developments, never leaving cracks on its characters / lore, never making random loop holes or the same slop with minimal effort and less explanation

👍

[tame rampart]

i agree

[tame rampart]

bro spittin

[heady nacelle]

Yeah I only use actual information used in the manga and anime, quotes and claims only stated by a panel. Then I use common sense like this. "If This character did this (A manga panel showing he did something strong), and this other character is stated to be stronger. Then you can only imagine."

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 3

[heady nacelle]

because demon slayer is very simple with it's characters and powerscaling

[heady nacelle]

if you want to go look at my previous conversations to see how I handle those kinds of powerscaling it's all up here^^

[vestal sable]

Its fine i Wouldnt need it as i already know the power systems of demon slayer efc

[heady nacelle]

that makes things a lot easier

[vestal sable]

I know all of it just to hate it

And to show i hate the show

I give information lmao

[tame rampart]

same

i hate demon slayer

[heady nacelle]

damn ya'll hate it that much 😭

[tame rampart]

a big mistake of a stroy

[heady nacelle]

I liked the show it's fun and simple

not a masterpiece of work that has a complex story behind it like these big shows aot and one piece

and Fieren

but its fun

and has some hype moments tbh

[long adder]

i liked it but thas all

[heady nacelle]

yup pretty much

it's simple

[tawny orbit]

to be honest

Giyuu 3rd strongest hashira

no debate

its literally obvious

[heady nacelle]

yup agreed

pretty obvious right there

any other claims?

[tawny orbit]

that Akaza was just playing around with rengoku at the train arc?

[heady nacelle]

until the end?

[tawny orbit]

i mean

he didnt rlly use

his most strongest

technique

[heady nacelle]

until the end of the fight where the sunrise was coming, he wasn't really playing he was panicking to escape

but besides that

he was testing rengoku's strength so yeah

you could say he was playing with him

[tawny orbit]

ANYways

[dusky roost]

tama8705 You’ve Reached Level 1

[tawny orbit]

next obe

one

which is unpopular

[heady nacelle]

can't wait

[tawny orbit]

Zenitsu is high hashira level

want me to explain?

..

hello-?

[heady nacelle]

I'm thinking about it

[tawny orbit]

alr ima just speak

[heady nacelle]

go ahead

[tawny orbit]

i think Zenitsu should be high hashira because like, when he fought kaigaku, kaigaku was no regular upper moon

kaigaku remembers his human side

and remembers zenitsu’s attacks and weaknesses

yet Zenitsu still won against Kaigaku

THEN

at sunrise arc

Zenitsu went from fighting the weakest uppermoon

to the demon king

and literally gave muzan the sweats

no mark, no red blade, no transparent world

yet did 2nd best of the kamaboko squad performance

if he had mark, red blade, and transparent world, how cooked would kaigaku be?

BURNT

anyways :D

[heady nacelle]

okay there's a lot of claims here I'd like to go over

[tawny orbit]

ok

[heady nacelle]

it's okay to disagree but I still want to go over them and everything that's been said

[tawny orbit]

no its fine

everyone had their reasons

[heady nacelle]

This one

[tawny orbit]

well-?

i mean have u seen the movie?

[heady nacelle]

mhm

[tawny orbit]

if u did you saw kaigaku’s abilities

[heady nacelle]

I even read the manga multiple times so I have a clear idea of what I'm going to be talking about

[tawny orbit]

they are mixed with blood demon art and deadly poison yet Zenitsu kinda kept up with kaigaku and made his own Form not even a week after the letter

and when i said zenitsu should be high hashira

i mean it

because

we saw Zenitsu speed blitz muzan many times

take hits for tanjiro

and saved inosuke twice

and gave tanjiro

a whole ass motivational speech

while deflecting attacks

kinda ridiculous

[heady nacelle]

can I state my points? .-.

[tawny orbit]

…you werent speaking.

go ahead

[heady nacelle]

kaigaku was the second weakest uppermoon, above daki. he was unexperienced and barely had any training, always remember that.

I had it copy pasted while you were typing 😭

second

[tawny orbit]

bru-

[heady nacelle]

kaigaku doesn't exactly know how to use his abilities and attacks, said and stated by yushiro right after the fight

[tawny orbit]

but wait

when u said “barely any training” do u mean his training when he was demon?

[heady nacelle]

if kaigaku lived a year longer to train, then zenitsu would've lost easily stated in chapter 146

[heady nacelle]

mhm

[heady nacelle]

^

[tawny orbit]

but kaigaku only used his thunder breathing though, they are the same exact movements as the human version

the only difference is the blood demon art combined and the poison

making it dark thunder

[dusky roost]

tama8705 You’ve Reached Level 2

[tawny orbit]

electrokinesis

[heady nacelle]

well if you want you could go see it yourself, I cited the chapter here ^

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 4

[tawny orbit]

ehh no need tho i read the manga

I MENA LIKE

I KNOW YUSHIRO SAID THAT

[heady nacelle]

he said his techniques were still unrefined and had no idea how to use them and abilities

[tawny orbit]

but i meant

how kaigaku fought

[heady nacelle]

how kaigaku fought was the same as before

though still didn't know how to use his techniques and abilities

second

zenitsu fighting muzan isn't a good example

because muzan was drugged 4 times and was extremely weakened

and he continued to get weaker and weaker overtime

[tawny orbit]

would drugged muzan lose against uppermoon 5-4?

[heady nacelle]

so the muzan that fought the hashiras was slightly stronger than the one who fought zenitsu

[heady nacelle]

wym?

[tawny orbit]

lets say

if muzan didnt use his curse on demons

and fought uppermoon 5 or uppermoon 4

[heady nacelle]

due to zenitsu showing up way later in the fight

[tawny orbit]

while drugged

would he win?

[heady nacelle]

sure?

what's that to do with the topic though

[tawny orbit]

oh your telling me zenitsu FOUGHT drugged muzan who is STRONGER than uppermoon 4?

[heady nacelle]

he fought a drugged muzan who's stronger yet still lost. He was keeping up and dodging some attacks yet still wasn't able to win

I see your point but that isn't a good way of putting it

zenitsu barely won against an uppermoon who was still unexperienced

[tawny orbit]

so was 13th form tanjiro and he didnt do rlly well he lost his whole arm

[tawny orbit]

and then again

u missed something

Zenitsu had no mark and no transparent world or red blade

like i stated earlier

IF ZENITSU had thise

those

how would he perform?

[heady nacelle]

well then now we're using what ifs, if he was strong enough to even unlock them then he'd unlock them

though he wasn't able to, everyone else besides the kamboko squad (excluding tanjiro) unlocked them

not all of them, but mark, redblade, and transparent world

IF HE did unlock them he'd be troublesome

[tawny orbit]

everyone in the kamaboko squad unlocked mark?

[heady nacelle]

but he didn't

you see what I mean?

[heady nacelle]

I said everyone else besides the kamboko squad unlocked mark

excluding tanjiro

[tawny orbit]

oh mb

[heady nacelle]

yeah

[tawny orbit]

i read it wrong

[heady nacelle]

you're good

[tawny orbit]

wait

[heady nacelle]

in my opinion

[tawny orbit]

would they get red blade?

[heady nacelle]

zenitsu is at best a mid tier uppermoon level, I like scaling them by uppermoon level because it makes it easier

[tawny orbit]

sure

[heady nacelle]

so definitely over upper 5 and just slightly over the clones of upper 4

maybe not zohakuten, but the rest of the clones easily

[tawny orbit]

WAIT THATS JUST MY SCALE

I LITERALLY SCALE HIM THERE

[heady nacelle]

then that's perfect my guy

[tawny orbit]

alr end of debate

[heady nacelle]

lol

[tawny orbit]

i’d say hes like between gyutaro and nakime

BETWEEN

[heady nacelle]

gyutaro?

[tawny orbit]

yeah

[heady nacelle]

wait how far do you scale gyutaro?

[tawny orbit]

in what terms

like

[heady nacelle]

hashira terms

better yet, what's your hashira ranking

it'll help

[tawny orbit]

marked mitsuri-marked muichiro

[tawny orbit]

bet

1: gyomei

2: sanemi

3: giyuu

4: obanai

5: muichiro

6: mitsuri

7: rengoku

8: tengen

9: shinobu

[heady nacelle]

okay I semi agree with that, yeah

[tawny orbit]

if rengoku had mark he would be above muichiro

[heady nacelle]

the only change I'd do is a base rengoku over marked mitsuri

[tawny orbit]

i mean they are not far from eachother

they close to equal

[heady nacelle]

they really aren't

[tawny orbit]

doesnt make much changes

[heady nacelle]

i usually place him above her

but anyways

[tawny orbit]

it ihhh what it ihhh

WAIT

yoriichi vs muzan + kokushibou full form

who wins

[heady nacelle]

Even though yorichi did feel "chills up his spine" while fighting muzan, I still believe yorichi is taking this one

[tawny orbit]

bruh

no gifs

[heady nacelle]

dap up

I saw it lol

[tawny orbit]

DAP ME UP-

[heady nacelle]

the goat

[tawny orbit]

lol

ok wait

QUESTION

[heady nacelle]

yorichi's narrative alone is he's the strongest

[tawny orbit]

AND WHEN I ANSWER MY OWN QUESTION YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE HOW I SCALE YORIICHI BUT ITS HOW I THINK

[heady nacelle]

alright go ahead

[tawny orbit]

where would you put Yoriichi in Jujutsu kaisen IF yoriichi had Full potential cursed energy

[heady nacelle]

ooh

okay this is a tough one because you might not even like where I scale yorichi WITHOUT cursed energy

I've done a lot of research on this

[tawny orbit]

yeah bc yoriichi without cursed energy cant do shit

well he could

but

[heady nacelle]

let's just say sukuna could take damage from yorichi because of his "sun blade"

[tawny orbit]

little damage

[tawny orbit]

with cursed energy?

or normal?

[heady nacelle]

normal

redblade and sun breathing

[tawny orbit]

low damage or high damage?

[heady nacelle]

is a small substitute for cursed energy

I've always thought sukuna is winning this high difficulty

if he uses binding vows and that bull

[tawny orbit]

honestly for me, normal yoriichi vs 19 fingers sukuna

sukuna would win mid-high diff

[heady nacelle]

exactly

because yorichi is insanely fast

way too fast

[tawny orbit]

if yoriichi had Cursed energy and At its full potential

sukuna would have a tough time

yk who yoriichi would feel like

Yoriichi would feel like more of a serious And more scary version of Gojo Satoru

basically the next gojo

[heady nacelle]

he's winning against anyone except gojo due to his infinity, in my opinion

[tawny orbit]

but sadly sukuna wins

[dusky roost]

tama8705 You’ve Reached Level 3

[tawny orbit]

high-extreme diff

to sukuna

BROO WAIT

IMAGINE THEY FOUGHT IN SENGOKU ERA

[heady nacelle]

that'd be crazy

[tawny orbit]

“strongest ancient sorcerer, vs the strongest sorcerer in history.”

that’d be hard af

[heady nacelle]

hol up

[tawny orbit]

i edited it

made it better

[heady nacelle]

something has been bothering me ever since the gyutaro part 😭

[tawny orbit]

wut-

[heady nacelle]

where do you scale gyutaro if ranking wasn't a thing in uppermoons?

[tawny orbit]

i would scale him to gyokko or nakime bc his poison literally carries him including his speed

[heady nacelle]

ah there it is-

[tawny orbit]

WHAATTTTTT

[heady nacelle]

I have an initial thought about this

[tawny orbit]

yeah?

[heady nacelle]

and why people think that gyutaro is stronger than he's shown

[tawny orbit]

???

[heady nacelle]

muzan did say that gyutaro would've won if he fought alone in the start

but ALOT of people made their own headcanon about it for some reason, saying that gyutaro is upper 4 level

[tawny orbit]

well thats-

i’d say gyutaro is at upper 5 rlly

not close to 4

HES NOT STRONGER THAN UPPER 5

[heady nacelle]

I've debated about gyokko and gyutaro for a long time

[heady nacelle]

thank god

[tawny orbit]

BUT EQUAL, IF NOT WEAKER

i just said where i scale him bruv

[heady nacelle]

alot of people underrestimate gyokko because of how dirty he was done

[tawny orbit]

yeah muichiro’s a menace

imagine if muichiro was 20

everyone is cooked

[heady nacelle]

stronger than every hashira but a little under gyomei

[tawny orbit]

by age 20 i mean IN MENTALITY

[heady nacelle]

oh

[tawny orbit]

THIS MAN MUICHIRO WOULD ROAST HARDER

[heady nacelle]

LOL

yeah

[tawny orbit]

but yes i do scale him stronger than sanemi

[heady nacelle]

I hate gyokko but he's insanely strong for no reason

gyutaro was more difficult to kill because of daki and him being in the same body

[tawny orbit]

you cant really blame him, i mean he can turn people into fish if his fishes touches the victim

[heady nacelle]

but gyokko is a lot more dangerous due to his demon art, not the poison but his demon art

[heady nacelle]

EXACTLY

thank you

[tawny orbit]

yet i saw

someone say

“kaigaku blitzes gyokko”

MY MAN

WHAT

[heady nacelle]

there's some unintelligent people out there

[tawny orbit]

especially obanai fans

they kept saying obanai solos muzan

[heady nacelle]

because after the 1v1

[tawny orbit]

like what universe are we in man

[tawny orbit]

a 1v1 that lasted a few minutes 😭

[heady nacelle]

I do have a demon slayer list, it's outdated but I worked on it for months

[tawny orbit]

show it

wait months?

it wouldnt take that long would it???

[heady nacelle]

depending on the amount of reading and researching you do

[dusky roost]

tooru_1. You’ve Reached Level 5

[heady nacelle]

I did the most I could

[tawny orbit]

i meannnn

its not really that hard…

kinda obvious-

[heady nacelle]

I had a headache for days- believe me it's harder than you think...

e

[tawny orbit]

okay give the kamaboko squad a list

[heady nacelle]

especially when you start scaling shinobu, rengoku and characters that had little to no feats

[tawny orbit]

weakest to strongest

[heady nacelle]

AND KAMABOKO SQUAD

I HATED THAT

[tawny orbit]

yeah but they are the confusing ones

[heady nacelle]

I did the most

[tawny orbit]

BECAUSE SHINOBU USES POISON

SO LIKE

HOW DO I

SCALE HER NORMALLY

[heady nacelle]

like zenitsu's grandpa, he had ZERO feats but I scaled him on what he accomplished and what was shown

[tawny orbit]

BECAUSE HER BODY IS WEAK SO SHE USES POISON

[tawny orbit]

just scale him when he was in his 20s

[heady nacelle]

that's the thing.. there's no feats..

[tawny orbit]

uncle grandpa was prolly like…

tbh

if one character has no feats

i just give them a guess due to their experience

sorry maine

[heady nacelle]

alr i'll list kamaboko

[tawny orbit]

alr

[heady nacelle]

including nezuko right?

[tawny orbit]

yeah

[heady nacelle]

alr I can already sense the debates incoming

[tawny orbit]

lol

get ready for my awesome annoying voice

[heady nacelle]

1. Tanjiro
2. Kanao
3. Inosuke
4. Zenitsu
5. Genya
6. Nezuko

can't wait

[tawny orbit]

Inhale

what am i looking at

[heady nacelle]

LOL

[tawny orbit]

exhale

[heady nacelle]

lmk what you disagree on

[tawny orbit]

okay

i know kanao fought douma

but like

cmon man

douma was on 30kg poison

he was getting weak without realizing

then it got to his skin

like

bro 😭

i mean

im not saying kanao is weak

shes tough as fuck

[heady nacelle]

I've explained this so much to so many people before 😭

but ima tell you anyway

[tawny orbit]

ok

[heady nacelle]

I only ranked kanao that hard because she has a special abiltity called vermilion eyes, it can slow everything down by so much, everything is practically in slow motion.

THOUGH

[tawny orbit]

it would blind her

one or two eyes

thats the only weakness

[heady nacelle]

it does risk blindness, it's an insane ability and she was able to cut up douma's bodhisattva

but even so

yk how the kamaboko squad are the 5 senses?

[tawny orbit]

yeah

[heady nacelle]

kanao is sight, and her eyes are special on their own, she was able to keep up with douma for a while until inosuke showed up

[tawny orbit]

i knew that tho

[heady nacelle]

and the reason why I ranked her so high

[tawny orbit]

also my favourite line in the entire intinity castle arc was inosuke saying “then ill make hell for you!”

[heady nacelle]

she did the best preformance out of everyone in the kamaboko squad besides tanjiro (IN the infinity castle)

[heady nacelle]

inosuke was on demon time

[tawny orbit]

he rlly was

douma packed his Ma up

lemme show u my list

and before you kill me

[heady nacelle]

kamabokio?

[tawny orbit]

2nd, 3rd, and 4th are all equal in strength

[heady nacelle]

go for it

[tawny orbit]

1: tanjiro
2: zenitsu
3: inosuke
4: kanao
5: genya
6: nezuko

why am i getting wrased

[heady nacelle]

are you a zenitsu fan-?

[tawny orbit]

erased

is it that bad

[dusky roost]

tama8705 You’ve Reached Level 4

[tawny orbit]

i js said they equal-

i meannn

zenitsu was awake

[heady nacelle]

eh it's not so different then

[tawny orbit]

this is sleeping Zenirsu

dont worry

zenitsu*

[heady nacelle]

the awake zenitsu did better preformance .-.

[tawny orbit]

bc of the hashira training .-.

[heady nacelle]

pretty much

[tawny orbit]

and bc of zenitsu’s rage .-.

ASIDE THAT

thats my list

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only switch needed is zenitsu and kanao but we already talked about zenitsu and his feats

so it's alright

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i mean they are almost the same so i wouldnt have a problem changing it

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alright here's the big question

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gimme see it

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I had this talk yesterday

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lemme lick the question

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and it was insane

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alr bet

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I had a whole talk up there if you wanna check

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yelling incoming

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gyomei vs akaza

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OOOOH

okay

this is

the hardest one

on god

[heady nacelle]

you can LOOK UP THERE

let me reply to it

one sec

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ok

[heady nacelle]

^^ started here

but what's your opinion

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gyomei has no chance since akaza regenerated his head and when he did kokushibo and douma noticed his MASSIVE jump in power that could equal to Kokushibo, but sadly Akaza died so we couldn’t see his feats

but if an uppermoon 3 cant die

i cant see gyomei winning

[heady nacelle]

🤝

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yessirrrrr

im trying to think of a question thats why its silent

OHHHH MY GOD

sanemi and obanai vs akaza

both marked

yeah nvm

bro went offline infront of my face

[heady nacelle]

im still here

rereading something rq

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it says ur offline

bros an ai

ggs

[heady nacelle]

LOL one sec

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les get ittttt

[heady nacelle]

alr so

if sanemi and obanai 2v1 him with mark

they're definitely unlocking the redblade

the mark and redblade are like a 2 in 1 bundle 😭

if you haven't realized

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yeah due to their killing intent and sanemi’s insane offense and destructive capabilities

we are praying for the surrounding areas

[heady nacelle]

I think if it's a 2v1

akaza only really lost against tanjiro and giyuu because he felt like it

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like he wanted to lose fairly

he became my fav uppermoon after that

like

he is just that giat

goat

GOAT

[heady nacelle]

part of me wants to say that akaza would win because they have no wincons

but..

I really do think sanemi and obanai would win with marks, because they'll eventually unlock red blade

and it'll be an issue

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i mean akaza only fought those stronger than him (douma and kokushibo)

[heady nacelle]

yea

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to be honest

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akaza is beating any hashira 1v1

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i think it would be a tie

[heady nacelle]

but if it's a 2v1, the top 2 and 4

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I think he's losing, but killing obanai

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bc of the hashiras high killing intent Akaza’s awareness would be buffed alot, but to Sanemi and Obanai, with kaburamaru as assistant to predicting attacks

would be kinda hard

so

idk who would win

[heady nacelle]

eh I believe in his loss but he's killing obanai

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yeah obanai got no sauce in durability except with muzan

bc it was literally the end

he couldnt just up and leave with the loss

[heady nacelle]

sanemi could literally stop bleedings with his breathing

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yeah sanemi has more chances

but

if sanemi’s breathing style was more defensive aswell

he would be the tankiest human

[heady nacelle]

sanemi is really focused on offense

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yeah

and thats the only problem

his breathing style is kinda reckless and never focuses on defense

sanemi’s blood is whats really saving him

GIYUU on the other hand

focuses on support and Defense

like he had no red blade and blocked muzan’s attacks with a broken weapon

[heady nacelle]

just realized the sanemi vs giyuu fight was greatest offense vs greatest defense

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aggressiveness vs depression

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to be honest

if offense and defense we’re people

and they fought

who would win

basically what is better, offense or defense

that first question was stupid

ignore it

offense or defense which is better

[heady nacelle]

if it's perfect defense and perfect offense, they're both tying

giyu vs sanemi showed it

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is gyomei a mix of both?

bc like

stone skin.

his 3rd form

in s4 episode 8

deflecting everything

thats defense

and in the manga

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pretty much

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he showed insane offense

…

yeah we might have found an ultimate being

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he's right under sanemi in offense, right under giyuu in defense