🤬│debate

[inland warren]

only way to win against her is to be faster than her

and her attack speed is pretty high

[vernal parcel]

Not to mention how she’s got like probably the best speed feats out of all hashiras

She could just pierce any human through the skull or neck and let them die

Also stated she has to best thrusting strength and she’s able to split boulders with her thrusts

[molten pebble]

Shinobu AP>Douma's Dura😭

[bronze vortex]

Ig bc he's a cool character most people like

[vestal sable]

camella0001 You’ve Reached Level 4

[whole field]

@edgy urchin @vestal sable

[vestal sable]

I’m not technically debating

All his claims was horrible

I read bleach and none of them were true 😭

[edgy urchin]

theres your issue

the feats are in the anim,e version

the added scenes

of them dodging Lille barros instant shots shaking 3 universes

[whole field]

Didn't you say you were going to sleep

[edgy urchin]

hop off my meat lil one

[whole field]

I'm not on it

[edgy urchin]

you bouncing on it rn

boutta do flips

[whole field]

Okay 💀

[molten pebble]

They can do that anyways

[dry heron]

The size is too small for the depth of all females

[bronze vortex]

[weary kayak]

[safe vault]

[safe vault]

Because he's rengoku

Rengoku glaze is justified

[bronze vortex]

Real

[safe vault]

Real

[swift ocean]

Glazed donut

No way

[light pagoda]

Flaming donut

[vestal sable]

where is it stated that she has the best thrusting strenght cause if gyomei picked up her weapon and started thrusting i think that he would have a better thrusting strenght than her but i do think that shinobu has better technique with her weapon

[vernal parcel]

Those author comments at the end of chapters

[vestal sable]

ohh

[vernal parcel]

Just search up Shinobus thrusting strength and go on images if you want more proof

Too lazy to find the actual chapter

[vestal sable]

i will do both

[molten pebble]

whatever

[formal mantle]

Bro gave up

Shinobu is underrated fr

[vestal sable]

yeah that is true most poeple will say that tengen beats her but thats just not true

[formal mantle]

I mean eventhough douma was being unserious, I doubt tengen can actually land a solid hit on him.

[vestal sable]

that may be true but douma stated himself that he couldnt block shinobu's attacks

hydromuffin You’ve Reached Level 1

[formal mantle]

She just too fast

https://tenor.com/view/shinobu-douma-douma-shinobu-gif-26137700

If you've seen this animation. It's actually fire

Also demonstrates what the fight may look like pretty well

[vestal sable]

i havent but it looks good from what im seeing

[formal mantle]

Ima try find the animator

He's on yt

NANLEB

Oh it's on the water mark too

[vestal sable]

yeah i found the video

[formal mantle]

Nice

[loud lava]

Hello. Do any of you know when will Hinokami be released?(i just now discover this game to me and i don't know can i play it or not)

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[formal mantle]

No release date yet

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[loud lava]

Thanks

[vestal sable]

Shinobu best waifu

[maiden pecan]

saitama solos

[vestal sable]

tktpas770 You’ve Reached Level 1

[silk pulsar]

True

[valid vortex]

When’s this damn game releasing

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[barren condor]

Dyno

@long ridge

[gray magnet]

It will release when its ready

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[formal mantle]

Probably near the end of this year or later somewhat

[thick reef]

Will there be one more breathing reset on dsrpg2? 🙏

[vestal sable]

kay_sacks You’ve Reached Level 1

[thick reef]

Will there be one more breathing reset on dsrpg2? 🙏

[cerulean sluice]

When hinokami 😐😉

[wet pumice]

What is the best breathing style

And what would u use in hinokami

I say thunder breathing

It has no weakness

[polar rapids]

Uh..

Mentality ruins thunder

[deft orbit]

Sun

You are as hot as a sun

Not even close

[formal mantle]

Has no defensive capabilities

Like wind breathing

The most balanced breathing style is Stone breathing

Great offensive moves and great defensive moves

I hope they do stone justice in this game.

[formal mantle]

Regarding this, I'll probs go slayer this time around. Might use either flame, Stone or wind.

Maybe thunder as well because it's thunder breathing.

[trail grail]

The best breathing is snake

[vestal sable]

icyk40 You’ve Reached Level 1

[wet pumice]

🥰

[wet pumice]

Thunder is meant to be and offensive breathing with the best reaction times

[wet pumice]

How

[tame rampart]

I'm deeply.offended by thunder

[formal mantle]

Yeah it's not the best

Best offensive breathing style is probably wind.

So yes it does have weaknesses

[formal mantle]

Nowhere near the best

All the 5 main breathing styles are better than serpent

[wet pumice]

No😭🙏

[formal mantle]

It is

This is excluding stone, moon and sun

Wind is built around offense

Reason why wind breathers like sanemi have so many scars (from non defensive combat and his blood)

Wind>>>>> thunder any day of the week. More forms and more destructive potential
Idk if you've read the manga, but if you did, you would know this.

This kid is telling me thunder is more offensive than this😭

[wet pumice]

Nah

Thunder is centered around speed and reaction time

I say thunder is better because it is way harder to fight against

Kaigaku was upper moon 6 at the time and he was giving numbers to zenitsu imagine if he had as much experience as akaza or douma he woulda ended uo being jus a bit weaker than kokushibo

So you’re telling me if zenitsu had the mastery of yorichii over his thunder breathing style he wouldn’t be stronger than sanemi if he also had yorichiis mastery of his breathing

[tame rampart]

All this waffle over a horrid series

[wet pumice]

It’s not horrid it’s just simple

[tame rampart]

None of it is real

Avatar did it better

[wet pumice]

Nah

[tame rampart]

Yah

[wet pumice]

Legend of korra is so mid

And korra aint even stronger than aang

[tame rampart]

Huh

Why you talking about korra

Sounds like a personal issue ngl

[formal mantle]

What are you talking about here?

[formal mantle]

How is it harder to fight against

You can literally type up wind breathing vs thunder breathing on Google.

You'll see the results and answers that others think too.

Thunder is designed to kill enemies in a short time period by using speed.

It is an offensive breathing style yes, but wind is much more offensive

[formal mantle]

Yeah kaigaku would've beat zenitsu with more time for sure.

But if sanemi went up against kaigaku that wouldn't be a challenge.

[formal mantle]

Don't answer just ignore and move on, some guys are begs.

Anyways if zenitsu with all forms went up against UM1, he would've died in a matter of minutes.

He wouldn't be able to keep up with UM1 like how Sanemi and Gyomei did.

[weary kayak]

[formal mantle]

Sun, moon, flame, stone, wind, thunder, water, mist, serpent, sound , flower, insect, beast

That's in my imo from what I've read from the manga, so don't take it as if I'm calling this the official list.

[bronze vortex]

I agree with this list

[bronze vortex]

That's true, but wind is more of an offensive breathing style. Every single move of wind is designed to rip and shread their opponents apart.

The 4th form of wind breathing is a clear demonstration on how good wind breathing is for taking down multiple opponents

Thunder can't take on multiple opponents, and it also is used for settling fights quickly via lighting-like speed. I doubt it'll be able to be as effective as wind in long fights

[formal mantle]

^

[formal mantle]

Where did you come in the 100m?

And relay?

[bronze vortex]

2nd 100m

My team came first in relay

[bronze vortex]

You're stupid for quitting the Athletics team, could've went far

[formal mantle]

Nice

[formal mantle]

That's true but I had exams and I wanted to focus on them instead.

You already know I'm not meeting the requirements for LSE

These mocks are my last chance 😭

[bronze vortex]

Fairs

[bronze vortex]

That's because you choose long and hard subjects

Don't matter anyways, as long as you can get 37 + you're set.

[formal mantle]

Tru

[formal mantle]

Move to #🌎│international

[fierce flicker]

computer warrior battle

[molten pebble]

who cares???

yall been having the same TIRED debate on Korra vs Aang for TWELVE YEARS 🙄

NOBODY EVEN BROUGHT HER UP 😭

[wet pumice]

But aang is stronger

[wet pumice]

Nah

More destructive≠better breathing style

They’re both really versatile breathings but i do agree wind is more destructive but that’s the only thing that it has over lightning

[formal mantle]

Wind is better than thunder

Read the manga

[wet pumice]

No fam

[wet pumice]

I have

[formal mantle]

It's fast so what?

Doesn't mean it's better

[wet pumice]

Not only

[formal mantle]

Relying only speed is a bad weakness

[wet pumice]

Thunder was never a weak breathing wth

[formal mantle]

What does thunder have over wind?

[wet pumice]

It’s still pretty destructive in the demon slayer verse

[formal mantle]

Only thing thunder has kver wind is speed.

Like that's it

That's like saying thunder is better than stone

[wet pumice]

Name everything that a breathing style has to have to be good

[formal mantle]

Alright

Lemme list a few

[wet pumice]

That’s actually a good debate

[wet pumice]

Alr

[wet pumice]

That’s cause it’s zenitsu

[formal mantle]

Destructive capabilities : wind
Power : wind
Speed : thunder
Versatility : wind (has defensive forms)
Forms : wind
Defense : wind
Maneuverability : thunder
Harder to fight against : wind = thunder (depends on skill level)
Better for killing hr demons : wind (could argue thunder)

There's probs more

Icba

[wet pumice]

Fairs i hear it

[formal mantle]

I meant don't answer guys, who say demon slayer is trash

[wet pumice]

Yhyh ik

Bro i live in south east ik what the slang terms are

[formal mantle]

They expect a 10/10 plot story that touches their lil hearts.
The fights are awesome.
Animation is peak
Villains could be better

[wet pumice]

Fr

[vestal sable]

Villains are shit

😪

[wet pumice]

Still better than one piece

[vestal sable]

Shit show overall no diff

[formal mantle]

Kind of yeah

[wet pumice]

Defense idk

[formal mantle]

Thunder has no defense

[wet pumice]

Cause speed could be used as defense as well

[formal mantle]

In what way?

I mean it could be used for dodging

[wet pumice]

Imagine UM1 is lounging at u

U oculd use one of the forms to dash out of the reach

[formal mantle]

That's not defense

That's running

Or dodging

[wet pumice]

Dodging is defense tho

Defense aint only tanking up attacks with ur forms

[formal mantle]

This is defense

Thunder breathers have never been shown to dodge or show defense in any way

[wet pumice]

True

[formal mantle]

Because thunder is meant for killing the opponent as quickly as possible

I like thunder breathing, but wind takes it overall

[wet pumice]

Infact

Let’s rank the breathings

[formal mantle]

.

[wet pumice]

Ur overrating flame

[vestal sable]

thorfinn_karlsfeni690 You’ve Reached Level 5

[formal mantle]

That's what I think

[formal mantle]

Nah nah hear me out

I think flame breathing is extremely strong

Only problem is

We didn't see rengoku use all of the forms of flame breathing

[wet pumice]

But we know what all the forms are right?

And with his strongest form he wasn’t able to beat a supressed upper moon

[formal mantle]

Plus when the characters pronounce the flame breathing forms it sounds like yorichi pronouncing sun breathing

Rising scorching sun

I see flame breathing as a lesser version of sun

We never saw it's full capabilities

[wet pumice]

U could say that for thunder aswell

[formal mantle]

U could say it for all of the 5 main breathing styles

But

Flame breathing may have the edge here

[wet pumice]

Idk

[formal mantle]

Stone solos

[wet pumice]

I feel like stone breathing is extremely overrated

[formal mantle]

Not even a debate

Lol

[wet pumice]

Gyomei is an absolute beast

[formal mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-hashira-training-arc-muzan-gyomei-himejima-gif-17244964572126882150

[full totem]

If you use water you automatically a pussy clart

[formal mantle]

Yeah true

I feel like gyomei brought out stone full capabilities

[wet pumice]

That’s why everything he does seems so strong

[wet pumice]

Exactly

[formal mantle]

I agree

[wet pumice]

My mains would be thunder flame and moon and mist

[full totem]

I always used snake one when I was a slayer

[wet pumice]

Gay

Battyman

[formal mantle]

Mine would probs be
Wind, stone or thunder

Not choosing moon

[full totem]

I only used it because it looked cold with my avatar in game

It was blue

[formal mantle]

Cuz I'm not learning allat forms

[wet pumice]

Why

[wet pumice]

Oh yh teue

But it’s worth it

If u master them ir automatically top 100

[full totem]

You guys should hop in game mode 🤤🤤🤤

[formal mantle]

Kokushibou blood demon art also enhanced his moon breathing

So we don't know how it was like when he used it as a human

[formal mantle]

I'm a demon

[wet pumice]

Probs a little weaker

[full totem]

Same

I’m the only demon here g star

[wet pumice]

Even tho i feel like if every breathing style was at its full capabilities water would be top 5

[full totem]

Because it’s piss easy

[wet pumice]

That’s cap

[full totem]

No
It’s not

[wet pumice]

Arguably the breathing that requires the most skill

[full totem]

Broski

Out of all the brethings n shit

With water I’d rarely lose in game mode

Even like 2v1

Because it’s piss easy

I’d say flame is harder 💀

[wet pumice]

No

Flame is easiest

Being broken with flame is easy

Being broken with water aint

[formal mantle]

What

It's stated in the anime that water is the most common breathing style in the corps

Because it's so simple and easy to master

Only people we've seen be goated with water is giyuu, tanjiro and sabito

[wet pumice]

Tanjiro is NOT goated w wate

What would be the hardest to master

[formal mantle]

And urokodaki

[formal mantle]

Stone

[wet pumice]

Apart from sun and moon

[formal mantle]

You saw his training

😭

You have to be physically gifted to even use stone

[wet pumice]

That’s physical training

[formal mantle]

Nah stone is the hardest

Even google agrees with me

[wet pumice]

Not skillwise

[wet pumice]

Maybe requirements wise

[formal mantle]

Skill wise it's probably stone or wind or thunder

It's defo not water

[wet pumice]

STOP GLAZING WIND

[formal mantle]

Wind is top 5

Hate me or love me

Idc

[wet pumice]

How is wind hard to master

[formal mantle]

I'll keep on glazing wind until all these wind haters go away

Top 5 breathing style

It's 9th form is one of the strongest forms in the entire series

Dnc

[formal mantle]

Go into google

Or read the demon slayer wiki

My info doesn't come from me liking Sanemi

It's comes from what we've seen thus far in the anime and manga

If anything water n wind are the same. We saw what happened during sanemi and giyuu sparring fight.

[wet pumice]

Sanemi also unlocked winds full potential

[formal mantle]

Giyuu did too

He even made an 11th form

Which was broken ash

[wet pumice]

Yh true

How do u even know what breathing style ur made for

Like u can’t jus say i wanna be flame

And u become a flame breather

[formal mantle]

Yeah it's true

[formal mantle]

I feel like the breathing styles are chosen based off the user's capabilities

For example with me

[steel sundial]

M

[formal mantle]

I'll probs say thunder will match me best

Or water

[steel sundial]

Stop

[wet pumice]

Why

[steel sundial]

Stop doing that guy

[formal mantle]

Explosive speed

I'm rapid ash

Water

[steel sundial]

Flame is too fast

[wet pumice]

Are u somali

[formal mantle]

OMDS

Why does everyone say this

[wet pumice]

😭😭😭

[wet pumice]

It’s the name bro

Osav

Such a mali name

[formal mantle]

Nah it's a nickname

My friends gave me

[wet pumice]

Oh fairs

Idk what breathing style would suit me

Cause im quick strong but not explosive

[formal mantle]

Wind

Fr

[wet pumice]

I was thinking that too

[formal mantle]

Acc no

Wait

I think flame

But the 9th form would be crazy work

[wet pumice]

Idk yk

Yh to be fair that is pretty accurate

My friends always say if i was a hashira i would be rengoku

[formal mantle]

I would like to be a wind or stone breather

But I don't got the physicality for stone

[wet pumice]

I do tbf but i don’t like stone

I would like to be mist

[formal mantle]

Nah that's cool

[wet pumice]

What requirements do u even have for mist

[formal mantle]

Mostly because it can be used for close, mid or long range combat

[formal mantle]

Just be disorienting and unpredictable

Idk tbh

[wet pumice]

Tbf i think ppl would come up with a lot more breathing styles

[formal mantle]

Real

Serpent sounds cool

But I'm not touching no snake

[wet pumice]

Word

Tbf i think it’s more based on personality more than anything

Think about it

Every hashira and it’s breathing style align in personality

Like look at gyomei firm beliefs solid like stone

Or like rengoku flaming heart

[formal mantle]

Yeah

I have nothing special about me, so probs water.

I'm chill like 95 % of the time

[wet pumice]

Yh i’m defo a flame breather then😭😭

[formal mantle]

[swift ocean]

That isn’t very healthy

[bronze vortex]

I'll probs use thunder

Or wind tbh

[ebon gulch]

quando lançará o hinokami?

[latent ore]

Po acho q desse ano n passa

Po acho q desse ano n passa

[vestal sable]

most strongest hashira?

[formal mantle]

Gyomei

That's obvious

[wet pumice]

Why

[swift ocean]

cause humans dont typically breathe in fire

[dry heron]

Ice spice is a good rapper

[night island]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[dry heron]

Bro

[dry heron]

React to my debate don't yap

[polar root]

Toronto hood man

[molten pebble]

Latto outsells

out does Ice Slop

Y2K wasnt even the fart

now go stream Sugar Honey Iced Tea

[tired rivet]

vanilla better or chocolate

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[formal mantle]

Good question

Depends

[vestal sable]

Smoothness vanilla
Overall flavor chocolate
Richness chocolate
Refreshing vanilla
Sweetness vanilla
Density chocolate

Both good

No comparison needed since both compliment each other plus other flavors combined

[civic fulcrum]

Chocolate

Pizza or sushi

[vestal sable]

Personally sushi

[civic fulcrum]

Same

[vestal sable]

Sure pizza good but its too greasy sometimes

Sushi doesnt and will not leave you with grease

Delicious and light

[formal mantle]

Pizza

Sushi is more healthy ig but idc

[tired rivet]

i just wokr uo but i agree

[dry heron]

I hate sushi so I'ma have to go w pizza

😔

[vestal sable]

Just never tried real japanese sushi

🤷‍♂️

[vestal sable]

🍣

[violet sequoia]

Ketchup or mayonnaise

[tame rampart]

Ketchup

[vestal sable]

Garlic sauce

[clear sun]

buss sauce

[formal mantle]

No people just don't like it

It's called preference kid

Ion like sushi no matter the type. Only one I eat is the salmon ones

[formal mantle]

If it's sour mayo, then go with that

Depends on what you're having it with tbh

[vestal sable]

😐

[formal mantle]

If it's with chips then sour mayo

[civic fulcrum]

ANIME OR MANGA

[tame rampart]

elaborate?

[violet sequoia]

Bro it depends so just say an anime name series and then we can answer it

[civic fulcrum]

Hell it cant

[vestal sable]

phonixa_good You’ve Reached Level 8

[civic fulcrum]

Anime or manga i mean anime action animations manga are writed

[violet sequoia]

Well I’d prefer anime if the animations were amazing , artstyle is good , and if its ten times better than the manga. But I’d prefer manga if it’s the opposite. So it depends really

[civic fulcrum]

Same

[cursive mauve]

Giyu vs rengoku
Who's gonna win

[swift ocean]

me

[dry heron]

RenGoku

[violet sequoia]

Goku

Idk who ren is

[cursive mauve]

Bruh why u're in this server then

[violet sequoia]

Goku wins bro

[cursive mauve]

🫡🫡🫡

[formal mantle]

Goku get's folded by SCP Scarlet King and Hajun

Cope

[swift ocean]

Goku solos 🗣️

[green kernel]

goku aint the strongest in his verse 😂

[stiff egret]

i am

[misty urchin]

giyu

[formal mantle]

If this is at the beginning of the series then Rengoku.
Manga it's giyuu

[clear sun]

[misty urchin]

series giyu manga giyu

[formal mantle]

Nope

[misty urchin]

se que acha

[formal mantle]

#🌎│international

[misty urchin]

??

[vestal sable]

mdl2.0 You’ve Reached Level 1

[misty urchin]

??

[formal mantle]

Wdym ??

U dumb or smth?

If u wanna speak another language go to international chat

[violet badge]

bruh

[misty urchin]

??

[molten pebble]

Rengoku>Base Giyuu

[formal mantle]

^

[violet sequoia]

Goku still solos, idk who ren is, stop stop attaching that to goku

[misty urchin]

fan boy

[formal mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/rengoku-kyojuro-rengoku-kyojuro-demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-gif-24187882

Embedded failure goes crazy

[misty urchin]

my bolls

[keen sleet]

ze glaze of the century

[severe hinge]

fr

[vale dew]

No

Giyu is almost as strong as sanemi

Which we know is the second strongest hashira

And his mastery over his water breathing is really good

He even made his own water breathing form

His mastery over his breathing is probably the best of all the hashira

And keep in mind that rengoku looked really strong wile fighting akaza because akaza wasn't giving his all

[cerulean falcon]

ok

[formal mantle]

That was at the final arc

He wasn't as strong as sanemi at the beginning of the series

[vale dew]

he was

[formal mantle]

He wasn't

[vale dew]

you can see that in the hashira training

[formal mantle]

Which is towards the final arc

You ok?

[vale dew]

yes but

how do you know he wasnt at his skill level?

[vestal sable]

44266478992 You’ve Reached Level 1

[formal mantle]

It's clearly obvious

[vale dew]

no it isnt

[formal mantle]

Yes it is

Re watch the anime

[vale dew]

you didnt see them fight till then

[formal mantle]

No

[vale dew]

so you had no way of proofing

[formal mantle]

We didn't seen them fight

But he did almost get killed by tanjiro

[vale dew]

._.

[formal mantle]

When he held nezuko captive

[vale dew]

plot armor

[formal mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

U can't compare giyuu back then to him in the hashira training arc

If it was the same giyuu, he would've killed tanjiro on the spot

He was sloppy and lost his cool. He's not like that now

There is clearly a difference, not hard to spot

[vale dew]

no tanjiro almost killed him to show us that tanjiro isnt normal

[vale dew]

and also

there was a two year gap

[formal mantle]

It also showed us the difference between giyuu then and giyuu now

Giyuu was never top 3 hashira.

That changed during the later arcs

It ain't rocket science

[molten pebble]

and what justifies Akaza trying in Giyuu's fight?? 💀

[molten pebble]

when he was offguard??

ur acting like Tanjiro shit on him

[molten pebble]

you were the one that started making this comparison 😭

[molten pebble]

Are YOU ok? You said he wasn't on par with Sanemi until the final arc. The guy said HTA showed they were on par with each other. You agreed that it was near the final arc...What point are you trying to make?? 😭

[molten pebble]

both of them had unquantifiable feats so like idk what the arg here

[molten pebble]

its true

no glaze

Base Giyuu=poopoo butt

[formal mantle]

Never said he did nor am I acting like it

Stop yapping out of your ass.

[formal mantle]

Name the feats they had

I'm listening

[formal mantle]

Wtf are you talking about here. His point is giyuu is on par with sanemi. My point is earlier in the series he was not on par with sanemi, that changed during the hashira arc and final arc.

[formal mantle]

Idk what you mean here. The point being made is that Giyuu currently is way much more stronger than how he was seen back in the beginning of the series

[formal mantle]

And yes Akaza was somewhat trying. May not be his 100% but he was way much more serious in comparison to when he fought rengoku.

I think you gotta re watch the anime and re read the manga, you seem lost and confused, getting your points mixed up too.

[molten pebble]

i just said both are their feats in the BOS are unquantifiable.

[molten pebble]

there is nothing to support this. This is an assumption. More evidence shows MTA Akaza>IC Akaza

[molten pebble]

then you just made a useless point ig

[vale dew]

i never said he was on par with him i said he almost was

[vale dew]

you have no way of proving that

the only way tanjiro "almost killed" him is by plot armor

and you walking like tanjiro beat giyu up

giyu kinda played him around

and nezuko also made him hesitate because she didnt kill tanjiro

[formal mantle]

Never said that

U said he was on par with him

[formal mantle]

Didn't make a useless point. It was more info. You said their feats are unquantifiable... so it's safe to assume giyuu was weaker than sanemi back then, as sanemi is already known to be the second strongest hashira and has more experience being a hashira. Since giyuu's feats are not known, it's safe to assume he was top 6, but not top 3 as gyomei, sanemi and iguro take those places with muichiro and rengoku being 4th and 5th. Thanks for reinforcing my point, smartass.

[formal mantle]

Is that your best excuse?

Plot armour, seriously?

[vale dew]

yes

[formal mantle]

Let me reiterate my point since I have two kids here who can't interpret or read. Judging by what I saw earlier. Giyuu seemed to be weaker than how be was during the hashira training arc.

[vale dew]

how is it not plot armor

[formal mantle]

Every hashira that participated in the hashira training arc got stronger

So obviously giyuu was weaker back then

That's the whole point of the arc

For every slayer to get stronger and prepare for the final fight

Wtf don't yall dumbasses understand

You say I have no evidence when the whole arc was dedicated to getting stronger

[formal mantle]

Never said it wasn't, learn to read and comprehend. I'm asking you a simple question, if that's all you got

I already know tanjiro is the most plot armoured character in the series

Plus it is stated they have equal swordsmanship skills. Not that there on par with each other.

Swordmanship skills is just one factor of a demon slayer, because swordmanship skills ≠ strength.

I would argue that obanai has better swordmanship skills than both of them. But he is not as strong as sanemi

Obviously towards the end of the arc giyuu has improved due to the hashira training and has similiar capabilities to sanemi

[formal mantle]

Wdym there is no support, what more do you want? A sentence directly written in the novel saying "Akaza was trying"? or the author himself saying "Yes, Akaza went all out"? Bro, all you need to use is simply your brain and eyes to know Akaza was definitely trying

He went from saying he's someone "who likes talking" to getting pissed off at tanjiro and going overkill

In fact if you read the manga he used chaotic silver blue afterglow, which is his strongest and most destructive attack. Why would he use also use kick forms in combination of his fist forms from his fighting style if he wasn't trying? This just shows you're unintelligent because you can't tell what's going on from a simple image.

Even after decapitation, he was still trying to kill them and finish them off despite him being surprised. He was 100% trying but may not have gone all out as I said earlier. There is already enough proof he was trying. Every braindead demon slayer fan knows that.

If MTA Akaza was stronger than IC Akaza, then why didn't he use all the moves he had in his inventory to kill rengoku. The only reason why he didn't speedblitz rengoku was because he genuinely liked him and wanted him to become a demon

Also, how can Akaza get weaker from the MTA when he clearly promised himself to annihilate tanjiro when they meet again... if anything he got stronger waiting for his rematch to fight him. It is impossible for demons to get weaker, they get stronger with the more humans they eat. Don't tell me you don't know how demons work too

[violet sequoia]

Moral of the story: don’t do anime debates on who’s stronger.

I’ll start a new debate

Uh

Should Cereal should be poured first into a bowl or should it be milk first?

[barren wolf]

The spoon first

[fallen whale]

Seconded

[formal mantle]

Thanks

[formal mantle]

There's no moral that's the point of this channel. To debate.

We ain't aruging

We are just trying to reinforce our views

And everyone knows Sanemi is stronger than Giyuu, not rocket science

[violet sequoia]

Thought you were arguing. My bad.

[vale dew]

Cerial cause then you know how much milk to put so it won't be too much

[vestal sable]

44266478992 You’ve Reached Level 2

[vale dew]

Never said he was

Just said giyu is closer to his power level more then other hashiras

[molten pebble]

and what feats does sanemi have to prove he was above Giyuu in the beginning of the series???? It's still a useless point you made as I am talking about Post HTA Giyuu. I said both sanemi and Giyuu's feats Pre-HTA are unquantifiable. 😭

[molten pebble]

For us to come to conclusion that Akaza was trying we can use Narrative evidence. Nothing suggests he was more serious against Giyuu than he was against Rengoku

[molten pebble]

He used it after Tanjiro unlocked STW+SS...He did not use it Giyuu individually
Literally he used one kick form on Giyuu and he got bitched by it??? ☠️

[molten pebble]

MTA Akaza>IC Akaza because Compass Needle was massively amping him. Akaza says that Rengoku's Battle spirit had reached the edge of perfection. The stronger the battle spirit, the stronger Compass needle detects

[molten pebble]

The techniques Akaza used on Rengoku is the same amount of techniques Akaza used on Giyuu individually

[formal mantle]

Um no it isn't ?

[formal mantle]

Nah it's not useless, because if u go to the official wiki we know sanemi took down former lm 1 by himself. We don't know what giyuu done. Giyuu wouldn't even be a hashira if not for Sabito.

[formal mantle]

This makes no sense. Yeah I get compass needle gets stronger based on fighting spirit, but that doesnt change any fact whether he was trying or not

[formal mantle]

But then he unlocked slayer mark right after?

[molten pebble]

and its still useless. I am talking about IC Giyuu

[molten pebble]

Werent you the one talking abt me needing to reread lol. He literally used the same amount of techniques on Giyuu as he did with Rengoku

Akaza on Giyuu: Choatic Type(Disorder), Leg Type Explosive Furry(gets bitched by it)
Akaza on Rengoku: Air Type, Disorder, Annihilation|

So in fact he used more on Rengoku

[molten pebble]

Prove Akaza wasnt trying

[vale dew]

he was trying to make rengoku a demon

not to kill him

he even said it

the whole fight

he is telling him to become a demon

and also

the same move doesnt need to hit as hard is he was trying to hurt less with it

aka he wasnt trying to kill rengoku so he wasnt using his full power in his attacks

[untold isle]

sailor moon solos the verse

[stiff iron]

Valid hashira ranking:

1. Gyomei
2. Sanemi
3. Giyu
4. Muichiro
5. Obanai
6. Rengoku
7. Mitsuri
8. Shinobu
9. Tengen

[formal mantle]

👍

[formal mantle]

Obanai is above mui

Imo

[stiff iron]

Oh alr

But I js think he has better feats imo

[vale dew]

no tengen is stronger then shinobu

1. Gyomei
2. Sanemi
3. Giyu
4. Muichiro
5. Obanai
6. Rengoku
7. Tengen
8. Mitsuri
9. Shinobu

[vale dew]

nah

nvm this more like it:

1. Gyomei
2. Sanemi
3. Giyu
4. Muichiro
5. Rengoku
6. Tengen
7. Obanai
8. Mitsuri
9. Shinobu

or wait nvm

maybe rengoku is stronger then muichiro

[formal mantle]

Idc what u think

U have ur list i have mine

I'm not gonna school you on why obanai is stronger than mui

[stiff iron]

This is a crazy list ngl

[normal elk]

debate if jesus is god?

jk jk

[vale dew]

tengen isnt that weak

[formal mantle]

This list is rubbish

One of the worst lists I've seen in my entire life

[vale dew]

then make your own

[vestal sable]

44266478992 You’ve Reached Level 3

[formal mantle]

Gyomei
Sanemi
Giyuu
Obanai
Muichiro
Rengoku
Mitsuri
Tengen
Shinobu

[vale dew]

obanai maybe is skilled but he is weak

[formal mantle]

This is the best list u can have

[vale dew]

nah tengen is stronger then mitsuri

[formal mantle]

Accurate to the manga

And anime

[formal mantle]

No he's ot

Not*

Maybe in physical strength yes but not as an overall hashira

[vale dew]

ofc cuz he doesnt have mark but like

[formal mantle]

But like nothing

He's not stronger than mitsuri...

Not debating this tbh

[vale dew]

he is💀

[formal mantle]

Everyone knows he's weaker than mitsuri

And eveyone knows obanai is above mui

Only a few kids who think otherwise.

And I'm not going to school em

[vale dew]

no

[formal mantle]

Yes acc

[vale dew]

just no

[formal mantle]

Ur just in the weird 2 % of people that think mui is above obanai

I see where you're coming from

But mui is not above obanai

[vale dew]

💀

[formal mantle]

Mui has the most potential out of all hashira yes

But as of right now he's still a kid and he got folded by kokushibou

[vale dew]

ye kinda...

[formal mantle]

Obanai was mvp of the muzan fight

Or if not one of the mvps

[formal mantle]

No not kinda it's a fact

Just read the manga if ur lost once again...

[vale dew]

what happend to "giyu was never the top 3 hashira"

💀

[formal mantle]

I never said he wasn't top 3 u dumbass

I said he's not on the same strength as sanemi

I swear ur illiterate

[vale dew]

.

[formal mantle]

....

U stupid or something?

Read mf, stop cherrypicking stuff I say

My list is based off of END OF SERIES

Not beginning of series

🤦

[molten pebble]

no he isnt

[molten pebble]

no lmao

[molten pebble]

Shinobu murders Mitsuri and Tengen

Muichiro>Obanai

shinobu>obanai

[formal mantle]

Don't care

Cope

[molten pebble]

🦆

[stiff iron]

I think its wayy close than you think ngl

[vestal sable]

fentseboy You’ve Reached Level 1

[formal mantle]

Yuh

They are close

[stiff iron]

So sum ppl might have mui above obanai

[worldly ember]

I'd definitely agree Muichiro isn't far off from Obanai in competing for being the Superior hashira. Though the only reason I'd give the edge to Obanai is simply due to his skill level, experience/knowledge, although given the time. Muichiro would surpass him.

[stiff iron]

Skill level I'm not so sure, because
Muichiro created his own breathe form and there are other factors which is why I'd give the win the muiciro like his endurance, defense, abilities, etc. But I could see why you say obanai is superior.

[formal mantle]

Obanai has better endurance

Obanai also created his own BREATHING STYLE

Not just a form

Abilities yeah can go to muichiro, because mist breathing has more forms than serpent breathing.

[split schooner]

mitsuri is a marked hashira

Uzui dont have mark

so mitsuri>>>

[worldly ember]

Skill level is definitely given to Obanai die to his well experience and knowledge, not to mention him keeping up while being blind with a weakened muzan. If that's not highly skilled then I don't know what is.

[wary fern]

Deku vs tanjiro 🧍‍♂️

[violet sequoia]

Deku obliterates the verse unfortunately

[limber nebula]

XD

[boreal plover]

Talk tuah podcast best podcast

[vale dew]

You can't assume power levels by marks

And if you say that it's because of the mark then ofc she would be stronger

Tengen is way faster then her

I think even with the mark he would be faster

[stiff iron]

Mui endured getting his arm getting cut off, getting stabbed by his own blade and loss A LOT of blood and he knew he was gonna die soon
Had literally all of his lower body cut off
Still held on to his sword despite that his other injuries too

BTW obanai creating his own breathing style is not as impressive as you think
Rengoku said in the movie that it isn't uncommon to make your own breathe style to fit your fighting style,
However muichiro got praised by uppermoon 1 for his 7th form technique

[stiff iron]

He wasn't completely blind as his snake gave him directions and serve as his guidance
Plus this was 3rd drug muzan so he was serverly weakened
He wasn't rlly keeping up with muzan
He just barely reacted to his attacks and was getting help from tanjiro and assisting him when needed

[vale dew]

he is still very skilled

but in terms of physical strength obanai is the second weakest after shinobu

so i think that can give muichiro the title of the 4th strongest hashira

but they are really close

[split schooner]

yes i can

marks give so much buff to the slayer

[split schooner]

Fuck that bro

mitsuri is 10x more stronger then him (strength)

[vale dew]

yes but then almost everyone would be stronger then tengen and rengoku💀

[split schooner]

1. Gyomei
2. Tomioka
3. Sanemi
4. Obanai
5. Tokito
6. MItsuri
7. Tengen
8. Rengoku
9. Shinobu

[vale dew]

no i think rengoku is stronger then tengen

[split schooner]

nah

[vale dew]

yuh

[split schooner]

rengoku dont ahve feats

he almost die to a lower moon

[vale dew]

rengoku was fighting upper 3 without a mark wile tengen was fighting upper 6 with the help of tanjiro AND nezuko's healing

[split schooner]

akaza was joking with rengoku

[vale dew]

nezuko saved tengen

[split schooner]

in the infinite castle arc akaza almost beat Tanjiro and tomioka

[vale dew]

not really in the end

[split schooner]

sure, cuz the sun was borning

[vestal sable]

realstraits You’ve Reached Level 1

[split schooner]

Hairo almost defeat rengoku

rengoku didn't help anything to defeat Muzan

[tame rampart]

Did you know that demon slayer manga was meant to be cancelled? It was so bad that they wanted to end it but it got saved by the anime fans who eat every piece of content regardless how bad it is

[vale dew]

yes but it was when rengoku only started

[vale dew]

yes cuz he was dead💀

[split schooner]

he died cuzzzz?

he's weak

[vale dew]

cuz upper 3 is stronger then upper 6💀

thats why

💀

[split schooner]

ik bro

akaza was playing with rengoku

[vale dew]

rengoku was close to unlocking his mark

[vestal sable]

44266478992 You’ve Reached Level 4

[split schooner]

he's prob using just 30% of him power

[split schooner]

nah

wtf

how?

[vale dew]

his*

yes

he got to his limit

[split schooner]

bro

u know the requirements to unlock a mark?

[vale dew]

he would have broken threw if it wasnt for the doughnut maker

[vale dew]

For one to awaken the Demon Slayer Mark, they must survive extremely life-threatening conditions, specifically a heart rate of over 200 beats per minute and a body temperature of over 39° Celsius (102.2° Fahrenheit), conditions which can prove to be fatal in most cases.

now

[split schooner]

yess

anddd

[vale dew]

do you know the requirement?

💀

[split schooner]

there is one more requirment

[vale dew]

no its just easier to unlock the mark with someone close to you unlocking it

💀

[split schooner]

Yes, Tanjiro had not awakened yet; I doubt that Rengoku would awaken

even shinobu unlock the mark

[vale dew]

In Demon Slayer, the best of the best sometimes manifest a special marking on their body, known as a Demon Slayer Mark. These mysterious marks bestow great power that comes at a price, and not every Demon Slayer can get one. They also vary from person-to-person, and don't manifest in the same way for everyone.

they ALSO

ALSO

[vale dew]

he would

"overcome your limits"

"set your heart ablaze"

he was gonna unlock it💀

[split schooner]

All your arguments are based on assumptions and guesses; you can't prove anything 😭 🙏

[vale dew]

can you prove anything?

i didnt see you prove anything

rengoku is stronger then tengen

tengen is the third or second weakest

personaly i think he is stronger then mitsuri

after all

he is the second strongest in physical strength

and also the fastest

[split schooner]

?

I made my top Hashiras based on their achievements. Rengoku is weak because he didn’t show much and didn’t awaken anything. Tengen is stronger than Rengoku because he has better physical abilities and greater achievements. You just need to read the work to find that out

[split schooner]

thats the true top

maybe obanai should be higher

but idk

[vale dew]

you never said you did, how could i know

[warm elbow]

Shinobu in last in the big 24 is wild work

[vale dew]

Shinobu is not strong

Her poison is

She is carried by it

[formal mantle]

That's plot

Not endurance

[formal mantle]

Only reason he got praised is bc he's young and has potential

He also praised sanemi and gyomei way much more

[worldly ember]

He was keeping up and also by that logic he wasn't completely blind, I could say I'm blind in real life and someone is helping me with directions, am I still blind or just being helped? He was blind..
A snake giving him directions doesn't make it so he's not blind, it's just to help as a guide.

[ripe musk]

Guys

If this channel never had a saitama vs goku debate someone tell me

[tame rampart]

It's had it 50000 times

[ripe musk]

It's a curse lol

I was finna start it again but no need

[molten pebble]

???

[molten pebble]

false news

[stiff iron]

yall gotta stop using plot as an excuse

[stiff iron]

and because of the swordsmanship he displayed

[stiff iron]

aight thats true but my other points still stand

[stiff iron]

rengoku is stronger than tengen and sanemi is above giyu

imo

[vale dew]

No💀

Tengen is the fastest hashira

That's not even a question

[vale dew]

Base rengoku is almost as strong as base giyu

[worldly ember]

Tengen is the faster travel speed but Shinobu has the fastest combat speed which has been stated as a truth.

[vale dew]

I agree with you on this one

Shinobu is also one of my fav characters

I personally think Shinobu is weak tho

And that she is carried by the poison

[worldly ember]

She is weak at least physically, but her combat speed makes her excel.

[vale dew]

Yes but I still think she would lose to most hashiras

[worldly ember]

Most definitely, but remember not everything is based on strength/power.

[vale dew]

Real

[worldly ember]

A winning factor is their battle intelligence.

[vale dew]

On my opinion the hashira power list should be based on the base form of a hashia and not by the mark

Cause then rengoku,tengen and Shinobu would be down

And rengoku for example is almost as strong as base giyu

[molten pebble]

In Travel speed I can NOT keep having the EXACT same CONVO

LIKE ITS 2024

OH MY GOD

[molten pebble]

Kills tengen, Obanai and Mitsuri

[molten pebble]

well everyone is stronger than tengen so

[molten pebble]

Rengoku murders Tengen

[vale dew]

no not obanai

[vale dew]

no

now when i think about it shinobu is maybe stronger then mitsuri

[vale dew]

he is still stronger then shinobu in almost every way💀

tengen is NOT the weakest

[stiff iron]

yeah

[stiff iron]

wouldnt she also beat rengoku?

[stiff iron]

he is 💀

[vale dew]

no

[vestal sable]

44266478992 You’ve Reached Level 5

[stiff iron]

he gets beat by every hashira

[vale dew]

he was fighting gyutaro WILE MISSING AN ARM

[stiff iron]

he had musical score on that time

[vale dew]

tengen is not the weakest

[stiff iron]

but pre-musical score he was getting beat up by gytaru badly

he cant even combat gytaru 1 on 1

[vale dew]

plus he was effected by poison

he is not the weakest

[stiff iron]

yea he got blizted

[vale dew]

💀

[stiff iron]

he got hit by gytaru while gytaru was coming out of daki's body

[long ridge]

There is currently no release date for Hinokami. #❓│faq

[stiff iron]

and got outsped

[vale dew]

then who is the second weakest after tengen?

[stiff iron]

shinobu

[vestal sable]

fentseboy You’ve Reached Level 3

[vale dew]

no

[stiff iron]

maybe not physically stronger but outclasses him

[vale dew]

shinobu cant cut a demon's head💀

she is NOT stronger then tengen

[stiff iron]

she has amazing thrusting power bro 💀

she pierced doma

upper moon 2

and can easily blitz tengen

[vale dew]

she also died to doma

💀

[stiff iron]

but outsped him and he called her the fastest hashira

tengen was gonna die to gytaru if nezuko wasnt there to heal him

[vale dew]

ok wait lets make a fight between them

ok?

she wont even see him💀

[stiff iron]

she is faster than him wdym?

[vale dew]

she would blow up without even moving

💀

tengen isnt only using swords

and her poison wouldnt effect him cause its for demons

[stiff iron]

she dodges and reacts to those

[stiff iron]

she doesnt need poison, she stabs tengen's head and he dies

[vale dew]

he can blow them mid air💀

(cutting them)

bro they said she is the weakest💀

[stiff iron]

even before he would do that, she would blitz and stab him

[stiff iron]

PHYSICALLY, not as an overall hashira 💀

[vale dew]

BRO YES PHYSICALLY

BUT DOES INOSUKE HAVE A BRAIN?

NAH

DID HE MOVE THE ROCK?

YEAH

DID TANJIRO NEED A MARK TO DO THAT?

ALSO YEAH

IN A FIGHT

IF SOMEONE HAS TWO SWORDS

IS 220 CM TALL

HAS BOMBS

AND YOU GOT A KATANA THAT CAN BE BROKEN BY A 3 YEAR OLD KID

WHO WOULD WIN?

[stiff iron]

wdym?

[vale dew]

do you understand a katana is not for stabbing

💀

[tame rampart]

blud, you been sitting here all day talking about demon slayer

take a break

[stiff iron]

its for thrusting / stabbing thats how she fights 💀

[tame rampart]

this is not healthy

i seen you talking when i got to work in the morning and still talking when im late back at home now 😭

[vale dew]

yes cuz people here say tengen is the weakest hashira

[vale dew]

🥶

[tame rampart]

brother, all the demon slayer characters are weak

dogshit series

[stiff iron]

shinobu would blitz tengen before he would even do anything about it 💀

[tame rampart]

minor

[stiff iron]

why ar u here then 😭

[vale dew]

real💀

[tame rampart]

shinobu gives him a sloppy doppy and he folds like an origami

[stiff iron]

LOL

[tame rampart]

because this is not demon slayer game studio

[stiff iron]

💀

[vale dew]

💀

[tame rampart]

been here for higos other games

[stiff iron]

yea yea

okay cool

but we're in the middle of smthin here

[vale dew]

real

[tame rampart]

my fault, try get a hotel room or something

[vale dew]

you can go back to working grandpa

[stiff iron]

okay ms. shinbou gives him a sloppy doppy and folds like an origami

[tame rampart]

peak

[stiff iron]

yea no.

[tame rampart]

nephew, im at home

relax

[tame rampart]

why not

https://tenor.com/view/shinobu-shinobu-kocho-demon-slayer-shinobu-demon-slayer-kny-gif-8969480131601588401

[vale dew]

you know damn well why not

[stiff iron]

bcuz no

[vale dew]

💀

[stiff iron]

real

[tame rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/kanae-kocho-demon-slayer-demon-slayer-characters-cosplay-cosplayer-gif-7806962049189118744

[vale dew]

bro came here to stop a debate in a debate channel💀

[stiff iron]

fr

[vale dew]

thats crazy

[stiff iron]

how does that even happen

[vale dew]

kinda worked

💀

[stiff iron]

yea somehow 💀

[tame rampart]

you're welcome

[stiff iron]

no thanks

[vale dew]

no?💀

[tame rampart]

what are your opinions on frieren ?

[stiff iron]

person

[vale dew]

what is your opinion on mcdonalds

[tame rampart]

mid

[vale dew]

real

the fries are wet half the time💀

[stiff iron]

for me the fries are the only good thing going for it

[tame rampart]

havent had that experience

[stiff iron]

the rest is just meh

[tame rampart]

the fries been alriught

kfc better tho

[stiff iron]

when you finally decide to speak facts:

[tame rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691038760816869397/742838483642482688/finger_lickin_good.mov?ex=66ebdd7f&is=66ea8bff&hm=d4e0176c583c3e2705f2da14065d803734b743e59fe506a75ca19bca4e7838f1&

[formal mantle]

Nah

Maccies would win

[molten pebble]

Obanai w/out the Mitsuri husband narrative: 💩

[molten pebble]

*is

[molten pebble]

Not true at all, get him past Base Mitsuri lmao

[molten pebble]

Im iffy on rengoku scaling now. but yeah sure

[molten pebble]

and the other pillars will one shot Gyu without losing body parts so now what

[devout sapphire]

bleach is the best anime ever, change my mind

[molten pebble]

and that's his fault from getting hit in the first place

[molten pebble]

*Mitsuri

[molten pebble]

ok? 😭 Mucihiro died to Kokushibo ig he loses to Tengen!

[molten pebble]

The same Tengen in question barely being able to block an attack from gyutaro who was sitting down

[molten pebble]

cope

Obanai was stated to not be physically strong

he was worse feats than Shinobu

why is he not getting downplayed like her and be second weakest

lmao

[formal mantle]

Blue lock is better than Bleach

[devout sapphire]

blue lock cgi says it all