🤬│debate

[forest minnow]

and he is able to clash with millions of little slashes while moving extremly fast

[inland warren]

fastest running speed

fandom says shinobu has the fastest attack speed

but it depends on how you see it

personally i think it’d make more sense if shinobu has remarkable attack speed, considering her whole fighting style relies on it

[forest minnow]

muichiro got stabbed in a vital part of his abdomen and still fought and even did massive damage on koku

[inland warren]

that is fair

[forest minnow]

ok but like i said before she can really only poke forward

[inland warren]

but then again is shinobu only going to stab once

[forest minnow]

and its supper predictable

1 constant resounding slashes and her stabs are worthless

[inland warren]

constant resounding slashes would push back anyone

[forest minnow]

also uzui h the most dp out of the hashira so shinobu couldnt get close to him with all the explosions

she also has a very pinpoint accuracy reliant breathing style and uzuis breathing style is far bigger aoe than shinobu

she HAS to get in close to deal damage

and uzui wouldnt let that happen

[inland warren]

which i did point out

[inland warren]

i also pointed this out

[forest minnow]

she has no way to do that

so wheres your point?

[inland warren]

.

[forest minnow]

so why are you argueing that shinobu beats uzui....

[inland warren]

i’m not 💀

i never said i was ☠️

[forest minnow]

then what is this debate about

[inland warren]

whether or not a stab would be lethal to hashiras

[forest minnow]

oh

[inland warren]

and the practicality of shinobu’s fighting style

[forest minnow]

it would only be effective if she could land enough hits which is almost impossible since she is not as strong as other hashira therefore she dont have an effective fighting style

[inland warren]

her blade is small tho, other hashiras would have a harder time deflecting it

they’d either have to use the flat side of the katana to block it, or swing the katana and hit it away

the latter requires much more movement

by the time you might be prepared to block another stab, shinobu would probably already stab you

[molten pebble]

LMFAOOOOOO WHAT A TROLL

[molten pebble]

DOESN"T MATTER ONE THRUST IN THE NECK AND TENGEN IS GONE

[forest minnow]

if you think dying to douma is a feat

cant get near him

why are we so mad here?

[molten pebble]

no, i think if uppermoon 2 concedes and blatantly admits inferiority to ur speed is a feat

"douma wasn't trying!" doesn't lower his reaction speed

[forest minnow]

not saying that

[molten pebble]

she has feats anyways

[forest minnow]

name them

being fast

uh

gettign eaten

uhhh

killing some weak ass spider

getting played with by douma

yea

[molten pebble]

• Blitzed Douma 9 times
• Penetrated Douma's Neck, the hardest part of a Demon's Body

[forest minnow]

hardest part to sever,

tanjiro always is able to pierce the skin but its the whole kneck thats hard to cut

[molten pebble]

no, hardest part of a demon's body

[forest minnow]

ok ill just die

[molten pebble]

goon

tengen gets one shotted

[forest minnow]

feminist

how

?

[molten pebble]

base mui victim

[molten pebble]

gets blitzed

[forest minnow]

so idk if you know but he is the fastest hashira

[molten pebble]

lmfao

[molten pebble]

travel speed isn't the same as attack speed

it blatantly says running speed

[forest minnow]

its shown that he has fast attack speed because he can prescisly block millions of slashes by gyutaro

[molten pebble]

the slowest uppermoon

cool

[forest minnow]

i said his attacks

not him

[molten pebble]

uh huh

[forest minnow]

no way bro said uh huh

proof you are biased

[molten pebble]

so he has fast attack speeds because he blocks attacks from an upper 6 level speed demon

[forest minnow]

thats ends this debate

[molten pebble]

but shinobu blitzing and stabbing douma makes her the weakest pillar

right

and im the biased one

[forest minnow]

did no damage to him at all

[molten pebble]

stabbed his eye

[forest minnow]

like literally not even a scratch

he healed instantly

[molten pebble]

...

[forest minnow]

...

wow

[molten pebble]

literally

vomits blood on the ground

also saying tengen is surviving an attack right through his skull is silly

[forest minnow]

and heals instantly and continues to laugh at her weak ah

[molten pebble]

gets blitzed 8 times

[forest minnow]

get her past a regular demon without poison

[molten pebble]

corny

[forest minnow]

how is that corny?

[molten pebble]

get tengen past a non trying base mitsuri

unironically

one shots

[forest minnow]

ok she is stronger than him

i agree with that

hes one of the weakest hashira

[molten pebble]

obvious

[forest minnow]

get shinobu past any other hashira

[molten pebble]

Solos literally half of them

[forest minnow]

HAHAHA

NAHHHH

THATS CRAZY

I GOTTA SS THAT

YOU DELUSIONAL AF

[molten pebble]

Tengen, Rengoku, Mitsuri, Base Muichiro, Base Giyuu and Base Obanai

[forest minnow]

LOOLLL

[molten pebble]

all her victims

[forest minnow]

LEAST OBVIOUS SHINOBU GLAZER

[molten pebble]

run it then

[molten pebble]

im a gyomei glazer but ok

[forest minnow]

gyomei glazer?

tf?

if anything i glaze tengen but gyomei?

hes stated to be the strongest hashira by a mile

[molten pebble]

🌚

[molten pebble]

run shinobu vs any of these

[whole field]

You're both

[molten pebble]

im gonna kiss you

[vestal sable]

the.one.who.left.it.all_behind You’ve Reached Level 20

[inland warren]

shinobu’s style is ironically more effective against humans than demons

[inland warren]

tengen wins by range + running speed to maintain distance

Rengoku wins by pure skill and strength

Mitsuri wins by range + attack speed

Base muichiro might probably lose, but close battle

idk about the last two

[molten pebble]

Base Muichiro gets whooped

Instantly

Not close

Mitsuri attack speed is below Nakime’s

Gets blitzed also

Tengen doesn’t even have the fastest running speed the chart is unreliable when 6/9 of the pillars weren’t even FP

So also gets blitzed

Rengoku gets blitzed also got merked by Akaza who admits inferiority to Douma and obvious narratives

Base Giyuu is an embarrassment

[inland warren]

shinobu didn’t win to douma because of skill, she won because of suicide

if she didn’t lace herself with fentanyl douma would probably be alive and kicking until the end of the manga

so you can’t use the douma fight to judge shinobu’s strength

if i’m gonna be real shinobu would probably lose to even gyokko

[forest minnow]

shinobu cant even touch muichiro in base he has mist breathing which basicly creates after images everywhere and shinobus breathing is all reliant of prescision so she cant hit muichiro if she cant see him

[forest minnow]

douma was probably going at 5% of his power vs shinobu and akaza was going like 30%

douma was clearly toying with shinobu more

akaza used very strong attacks and was noticably trying somewhat

[inland warren]

would shinobu win against gyutaro?

[whole field]

The real question is, would I win against gyutaro

[inland warren]

no

[whole field]

Wrong answer

[inland warren]

how much does gyomei bench

[vestal sable]

This guy stomps the verse no diff 🙂

[junior herald]

Galacta Knight victim

[bold python]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-devil-may-cry5-devil-may-cry5-dante-dmc-dante-dmc5-gif-21425511

[nocturne gull]

ofc

dmc characters are broken asf

[hollow shadow]

dawg where is my obanai sword

[molten pebble]

Never said she beat Douma? I’m saying Douma admits inferiority to Shinobu’s speed on MULTIPLE Occasions, he quite literally says “he can’t block any of her attack”

[molten pebble]

You quite literally have to lmfao

[molten pebble]

Base Muichiro got bitched on by a non trying base Gyokko.

Please don’t even

That man is legit a SSVA Nezuko victim

[molten pebble]

Non trying Douma doesn’t exist, he shows no emotion and admits he can’t try period. Therefore Douma can never exert full power. The Douma we see in the manga is fp

[molten pebble]

lol

[inland warren]

ok fair enough ☠️

[forest minnow]

non trying and he died

[forest minnow]

hes at fp at the end of the fight with inosuke and kanao

when he uses the buddha

[muted arrow]

erm, actually, mitsuri is stronger than rengoku 🤓

[molten pebble]

uhm ok anyways

[molten pebble]

kanao litreally calls it sloppy it was NOT fp

[forest minnow]

you just proved yourself wrong

[whole field]

Just because he feels no emotions and can't try to feel them doesn't mean he can't use full power

Strength and emotions aren't then same thing so just because he doesn't feel emotions doesn't stop the fact that if he wanted to then he could use full

[nocturne gull]

hes not wrong

emotions dont correlate with him showing strength

[molten pebble]

he can't use full power because he doesn't feel the need too

that's why he can't regen his head, he lacks willpower

not like that nerfs his reaction speed anyways

[swift ocean]

How will this affect lebrons legacy

[glad walrus]

hi

i have water breathing

[inland warren]

hi

i have water breathing too

[glad walrus]

nice

same breathing we have

i will send a screen shot

i am playing it now

[inland warren]

nice

[vestal sable]

ibrosadventure078 You’ve Reached Level 1

[glad walrus]

back to admin

[inland warren]

burger

[vestal sable]

Fish and chips 😌

[undone bone]

I wanna beef with anyone

[inland warren]

ok

https://tenor.com/view/rare-rare-steak-steak-cutting-steak-gif-11709098

beef

[glad walrus]

ayo

[foggy forge]

Everything reminds me of her

[upbeat ravine]

It's practically alive still

[outer peak]

If two vegans are fighting, is it still considered beef?

[inland warren]

no it’s medium rare 💀

bro likes eating cardboard

[upbeat ravine]

you like eating raw meat

[inland warren]

honestly yes

but it’s better than eating sand

[vestal sable]

😧

[dire sigil]

eh

[glad walrus]

lol

[inland warren]

https://tenor.com/view/jogoat-gif-11996953865648686576

[peak chasm]

bro aint even that fat

      Caseoh

[inland warren]

my phone got heavier after i saw this message

[peak chasm]

lol

[muted arrow]

add it to the udon now!!!

[inland warren]

steak to udon wtf

no

[muted arrow]

yes.

yes

you aren't changing my mind

nvm ima put it in ramen instead

[inland warren]

bro

curry udon is good tho

[muted arrow]

🥴😘

[amber fable]

Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful.
Colossians 4:2

[molten pebble]

WHO IS THIS N WORD BRO 😭

[sharp siren]

amen

[vestal sable]

bomm1560 You’ve Reached Level 1

[molten pebble]

k

[amber fable]

John 8:12

When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

[inland warren]

yea but like why put it in the debate channel

are we supposed to debate on it?

[tame rampart]

Idk they probably moated ut in every channel

[vestal sable]

Bro Your account is majestic

[inland warren]

huh 😟

[molten pebble]

this is so sigma

spreading the gospel on a dead discord server ❤️

[vestal sable]

[polar root]

Christ???

Wtf i didn’t even realize that just replied to something from 1 years ago

[dim flare]

😱

[polar root]

[hard pawn]

🤫 🤔 🤫

[vestal sable]

thunderboltsea You’ve Reached Level 1

[inland warren]

bro’s mewing

[molten pebble]

erm actually

it was 6 months ago 🤓

[amber fable]

2 Peter 3:9

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

[molten pebble]

[deft rose]

Diederich is better than any anime character

[inland warren]

diederich should die

[solar dirge]

Fr

Shit anime

Literally any other anime is better

[deft rose]

🤬

[swift ocean]

That’s an anime?

I don’t even know who that person is

But they exist?

[tame rampart]

I guess so

[deft rose]

Diederich is not from an anime

is from a game

a furry game

[amber fable]

Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.
Colossians 3:12

[inland warren]

@pliant finch wtf 💀

[pliant finch]

Tf?

[inland warren]

bean popsicle ☠️

[upbeat ravine]

I'm mew

[junior herald]

Get out

[upbeat ravine]

nah

[faint pivot]

ola

[terse inlet]

God ussop is stronger than luffy

[vestal sable]

who?

[terse inlet]

..

i will not tell you.

[vestal sable]

?

idk 1 piece bro

mb

i got no time free to watch

[terse inlet]

damn that sad

you are missing something that for sure

[vestal sable]

nah

im not depressed

not even a fucking e boy

im not a otaku too

[terse inlet]

and? you dont need to be depressed to watch anime

[vestal sable]

ik

[terse inlet]

and dont get the wrong idea from the pfp.

[vestal sable]

i cant see

[terse inlet]

ah

[vestal sable]

what is it

[terse inlet]

a blue unicorn..

[vestal sable]

look like a bubasour

idk

the name

ah ok

[terse inlet]

a friend wanted to do a duo pfp i said to make her happy and i regret it

[vestal sable]

wtfmat You’ve Reached Level 1

[terse inlet]

shut it bot

anyways bye

[vestal sable]

bye

[vague field]

Hunter X Hunter is and will always be the best anime, you cannot change my mind

[nocturne gull]

ye its good

i prefer jjba tho

but ye good choice

[tame rampart]

Hard to change bad opinions

[nocturne gull]

bros a generational hater

[tame rampart]

Reality can be painful

But its ok to like trash

[vague field]

argh the pain

[tame rampart]

truly

this is why you will not get red colour

[molten pebble]

the letters on my keyboard "y, k s" looks really juicy and fitting for this

[vague field]

lmao

[vague field]

WHAT

[tame rampart]

[upbeat ravine]

but theyre not wrong 🥺🥺

[vale kayak]

fr

[vestal sable]

formforform You’ve Reached Level 3

[vague field]

ikr

[tame rampart]

They are wrong

[south lynx]

Definitely wrong

[nocturne gull]

definitely not the best tho

[inland warren]

best anime is food wars

[woven ibex]

Sung Jin woo can solo jjk and beat goku

[tame rampart]

Mid

[woven ibex]

No diff

[inland warren]

solo levelling?

[woven ibex]

Yes

[inland warren]

btw what do people mean when they say someone can solo something

[nocturne gull]

defeat them

alone

[molten pebble]

People see one planetary level feat and think he’s Goku level

[inland warren]

sung jinwoo definitely can’t beat gojo

[south lynx]

go*

[inland warren]

go jo*

[tame rampart]

Gayhoe

[hard hare]

Nate solos goku

Prove me otherwise

But until then I'm standin on bidness

[hard hare]

I need a role that just says Mr and it's neon purple

Let's debate this c'mon

[inland warren]

why don’t we debate your rights to free speech instead

[hard hare]

suck ya madda racist

[vague field]

duh bro nate is so based

[molten pebble]

My eyes has been open

To see JJK is a horribly written Manga

[tame rampart]

Good job

You finally made it

[upbeat ravine]

Why because gojo is apparently gonna be back

[molten pebble]

no, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many other reasons

the characters are just so horribly written

they are either

1. Undeveloped
2. Irrelvant
3. Lame

guess where megumi falls

all three

fuck Megumi

the characters are literally only used as plot devices

they are incredibly underdeveloped and gege kills them before he finishes the character arc just for shock factor, Nobara's death was completely unnecessary.

along with Yuki

Gege kills off a multitude of characters simply for shock factor and expects to feel bad about a character who lacks bonds with us as the audience and the other characters

[molten pebble]

Kashimo and Yuki is the biggest example of this

knowing Gege he probably killed off his Ghost writer for Hidden Inventory

i find it funny that Nobara who is loved by many had to be BEGGED by editors to be put in to the story because Gege didnt want her in at first

I have more fun watching Nezuko do her annoying as baby noises and play with her feet than watch that horribly ugly fatass bitch called MEGUMI speak

[tame rampart]

its insane to see someone who isnt mentally disabled here

[brazen solar]

real

[slate umbra]

Grey

[potent knot]

how

[brave wyvern]

??

NAH I K

[tame rampart]

Jjk is bad

Bro is spittin

[dapper badger]

am i black?

[molten pebble]

Rlly bad

[inland warren]

blackie chan is crazy ☠️☠️

[upbeat ravine]

oh boy I dont think I asked for all of that

[dark thicket]

No debates right...?

I need a debate

[dark thicket]

Higoshi is a jjk fan :))

[molten pebble]

do you watch ATLA/TLOK

[tame rampart]

And he knows its shit

But better, hes a frieren fan

Peak anime

[dark thicket]

Nope

[vestal sable]

akihiro4kun has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[junior herald]

What debate do you need

I have a hot take ready

I've been fiending to argue with someone cuz I think their opinion is goofy
Too peaceful nowadays

[dark thicket]

I'm listening

[junior herald]

Choose an anime

[dark thicket]

Um what animes have u watched?

[junior herald]

Go crazy you got one minute or I'm choosing

[dark thicket]

Well how abt hxh or ds?

Or death note or naruto or bleach or jjk

[junior herald]

Gotchu then

[junior herald]

I'm trying to think of something interesting but not goofy

Actually imma just go crazy.

Harribel>Ulquiorra

[vestal sable]

martim0263 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

martim0263 has been banned

Reason: Too many infractions

[vestal sable]

The #s don’t mean nothing she lost to toshiro ulquiorra walks her

[junior herald]

Aye here me out
Ulquiorra's segunda got no feats other than not instantly dying to Full Hollow Ichigo
And she just lost to plot
Yhwach pulled up with a whole army cuz he really wasn't ready to run no 1's🐧
So she is stronger by that matter.

You could make the argument that Ulquiorra has better feats, and reiatsu
But uhm..

Harribel has water✨

[molten pebble]

Meow

[tepid cairn]

Mha is pure plot armor

[vestal sable]

itsnotme328 You’ve Reached Level 3

[inland warren]

https://tenor.com/view/kareem-big-booty-gif-12706037962980912546

[molten pebble]

explain

99% of the time yall don't know what plot armor is

[jolly fossil]

debate right here right now

[vestal sable]

lattelo__o has been warned

Reason: bypassing filter

[upbeat ravine]

naruto

[dark thicket]

alr whats the debate abt?

[upbeat ravine]

Itachi edo vs nagato edo

[twin tundra]

Guys when dsrpg3 arrive

[molten pebble]

When I give birth

[inland warren]

betttt

[molten pebble]

uhmm, what the sigma? 🤓 uhmm, what the sigma? 😳 uhmm, what the sigma? 😡 uhmm, what the sigma? 👺

[inland warren]

what the sigma?

[jolly fossil]

or

[teal vault]

Itachi without a doubt

[upbeat ravine]

seriously

@tame rampart

[tame rampart]

already banned

[molten pebble]

the rot consumes

[upbeat ravine]

hey how'd you do that

/poll

.Poll

[echo jasper]

uh

just click + when your about to post an image.

Not sure How to explain..it

[molten pebble]

gives birth

[inland warren]

💀

[vestal sable]

gigaballs. You’ve Reached Level 1

[inland warren]

bros name is one letter off from being my favourite username💀💀

[molten pebble]

gigaballs

[molten meteor]

Higoshi hyping us up to much😭

[inland warren]

tabasco + mac and cheese goes hard

[vague field]

TRUE

[dark thicket]

Anything new in this channel?

[molten pebble]

gays

[upbeat ravine]

ain't a place to share your thoughts

[swift ocean]

That’s exactly what this is for

[inland warren]

that’s pretty deep

[molten pebble]

they faces killing me why nobody gaf

[upbeat ravine]

I gaf ho

[dark thicket]

No more debates...

My fav channel is now dead

[whole field]

Dang

[tame rampart]

Then make one

[dark thicket]

Too lazy

[tame rampart]

Lol

[upbeat ravine]

Let's debate naruto

[dark thicket]

I don't remember much abt it, it's my childhood anime that i havent returned to it up till now

Just dont bring unimportant characters like kimimarukaguya, jugo, suigetsu, etc...

[upbeat ravine]

er no

Edo nagato vs edo itachi

[dark thicket]

Shi-

But i forgot nagato's abilities

[upbeat ravine]

Basically

[upbeat ravine]

Rinnegan abilities

Summoning

Gravity control

360 vision

[dark thicket]

Oh

Right

As far as i remember nagato < pain

And pain > itachi

But itachi > nagato

[upbeat ravine]

Nope

Pain only wields 1 part of six paths but nagato has all 6

[dark thicket]

Pain destroyed konoha meanwhile nagato didnt destroy a village

[upbeat ravine]

Nagato technically controlled pain using HIS chakra

[dark thicket]

Uhm-

BYE!

[upbeat ravine]

No

Let's debate something else then

You pick

[dark thicket]

😊

What animes have u watched?

[upbeat ravine]

Demon slayer

Aot

Mha up to s4

Hxh

One piece

Naruto

Jojos

[dark thicket]

Hxh and demon slayer

And naruto is just forgotten in my mind

I didnt watch any of the others

[upbeat ravine]

Which one do u want to start

[dark thicket]

I read hxh manga and im fully aware of the new characters there and in kny as well

[upbeat ravine]

I've only watch hxh anime

And I read kny manga

[dark thicket]

Oh

Underrated hxh manga 😔

Then kny

[upbeat ravine]

I did start though

[upbeat ravine]

yeah

[dark thicket]

Lol

What do u wanna debate abt kny?

[upbeat ravine]

hm

inosuke vs akaza

[dark thicket]

R u being fr? 😭

Akaza

[upbeat ravine]

yes

[dark thicket]

Hmm

I wanna make it hard tho

The weak characters!

Enmu vs ubume

[upbeat ravine]

who is ubume?

[dark thicket]

A character that sanemi survived in such an incrediable way from how powerful her bda was

It creates illusions for ppl in their eyes and if ppl tried to face the illusion their duration of being blind increases by one hour

[upbeat ravine]

it's in a light novel right

I only read the giyuu and rengoku one

[dark thicket]

Yeah

Oh

Hmm..

Which character do u hate?

[upbeat ravine]

douma

[tame rampart]

Trash

[dark thicket]

Hxh manga?

[tame rampart]

All of hxh

Manga and anime

[dark thicket]

Douma vs murata 🤗

[dark thicket]

I wont bother to change ur mind

But why is that?

[tame rampart]

Bad writing

And God forbid the manga being an actual manga

[dark thicket]

Its wasted potential

[dark thicket]

And r u refering to the characters?

[tame rampart]

Everything

[dark thicket]

...

U arent giving me an answer

But forget

Im lazy

[tame rampart]

You said you don't want to talk about it

So I won't

[dark thicket]

I said i wont try to change ur mind on it

[tidal shoal]

Hi

Anyone want to debate about something?

[tame rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-kirisame-marisa-kirisame-marisa-smoke-gif-27518824

[tidal shoal]

😢 😂

[upbeat ravine]

Yes

[upbeat ravine]

shush goon

sit down and let togashi cook he's off hiatus

[tame rampart]

only thing hes cooking is a fire trash bin

[upbeat ravine]

believe it till u see it

[tidal shoal]

Ok

Bring something up

[upbeat ravine]

naruto

[tidal shoal]

🤔

I meant say something debatable

🍥

[upbeat ravine]

Like

edo itachi vs edo nagato

[tidal shoal]

I’d say Itachi

You?

I don’t know much about Nagato though 🤷‍♂️

[upbeat ravine]

Nagato

[upbeat ravine]

He

rinegan

[tidal shoal]

Yeah true.

Fair enough.

[vernal parcel]

Skibidi

[tidal shoal]

How strong is DKTv

[tropic summit]

yh gyokko isn’t allat

[vernal parcel]

He’s not super duper strong tbh

[tropic summit]

Erm

[vernal parcel]

He has amazing potential

[tidal shoal]

Frl?

Yeah true

[vernal parcel]

I don’t remember to much of the fight but I’ll reread

[tidal shoal]

No bother

I think he’s the strongest though

🤷‍♂️

[vernal parcel]

Gyutaro ain’t allat

[upbeat ravine]

oi

We not finished

[tidal shoal]

What up

[vernal parcel]

Full potential 100% but no

[tidal shoal]

Yoo chill

[tidal shoal]

What’s full potential to u

He has inf stamina

No blade works

Sun immunity

[vernal parcel]

Conscious,Trained with Exprience for like 1 year (kinda like what kaigaku potential would of been) trained with his BDA and he would of been OP

[tidal shoal]

But he can’t die, no?

He was simply converted

[vernal parcel]

True

@tropic summit cmon let’s debate gyokko vs gyutaro

Damn he writing alot

Big big message

[tropic summit]

gyokkos bda isn’t as strong as blood manipulation. Gyuatro without daki is stronger. He has more agility, flexibility, attack power, attack potential then gyokko.

gyatro is also more faster

[vernal parcel]

Bro he wouldn’t be stronger without Daki tho he’d be the same

[tropic summit]

nah, he worries if daki is fighting

afraid she gona get killed

If gyataro is fully focused on his opponent, without no worries, he stronger

[vernal parcel]

Gyokkos BDA is OP ash what are you on about

-Teleportation through pots
-Fish demon creation
-poison needles
-a water vase that not even Muichiro could escape
-One touch turns the enemy into a. Fish etc

And way more irrelevant powers

[vernal parcel]

He wouldn’t be tho cuz he’d only be worried if his head is in the process of being cut off

[tropic summit]

Its aight. blood manipulation stronger in a fight

[tropic summit]

If that’s the situation then yh. But gyatro is faster and stronger

Gyokko has more durability and prob more experience

[vernal parcel]

Gyokko is fast+Teleportation.one clean touch to gyutaros body means he’ll just turn into one gyokkos fish demons

He’s basically Mahito but fishy

[tropic summit]

Is pots can easily be destroyed teleportation isn’t even a problem

And his fish attack isn’t a problem for gyatro, blood manipulation wipes

[vernal parcel]

If one is destroyed he can place more easily it doesn’t rlly matter

[vernal parcel]

Gyokko is bound to touch gyutaro which in turn turns him into a fish

[tropic summit]

yh it can keep getting destroyed tho

[tropic summit]

gyokko doesn’t have many good feats going for him

[vernal parcel]

One shotting and trapping base Mui is one

And base Mui is arguably stronger then Tengen

[tropic summit]

Thats base mui

no he isn’t

base tengen is one the strongest unmarked characters

hashira

base mui is not

[vernal parcel]

Eh true

I’ll give you that

Still one shotting a Hashira with easy and the only damage you take is losing a small little baby arm is pretty good feat

And don’t forget about gyokkos arrogance which also played a part in his loss

Same thing with gyutaro

[tropic summit]

Was bouta say

but gyatro beat base tengen

[vernal parcel]

Yeah true

I still think gyokko is stronger

[tropic summit]

and gyataro has poison going for him

[vernal parcel]

More hax+Dura+Strength and arguably better Bda

[tropic summit]

and large aoe attacks

[molten pebble]

false and contradicted by everything in the manga

[vernal parcel]

Only wisteria posion effects other demons

[vernal parcel]

?

[molten pebble]

Gyuatro is stronger with Daki

Daki does not hold him back at all

[tropic summit]

muzan stated gyataro held daki back

[vestal sable]

hammersmit121_ You’ve Reached Level 6

[vernal parcel]

Not rlly

[tropic summit]

Uhh he did.

[vernal parcel]

Let me show you the manga+anime

Acc

He might of idk

He said “he would’ve won if he had been fighting alone”

[molten pebble]

and what makes you think muzan is right

And muzan never said this, he said if Gyuatro came out FIRST he would have been able to kill the group. WHich is correct

[vernal parcel]

True the manga and anime said slightly different things

[molten pebble]

Daki never nerfed Gyuatro, at what point in the battle did she make Gyuatro struggle, in fact she was a major help to him throughout the battle

[tropic summit]

Anime said different

[vernal parcel]

True she kept Zenistu and Inosuke busy soo her brother didn’t get overwhelmed or smth

[tropic summit]

wb the eye that popped out of dakis head. Gyatro was able to see from that eye to help aid daki. He did this while fighting tengen which was another good feat cuz he wasn’t fully focused on tengen

[vernal parcel]

Tbh gyokko still the goat and solos gyutaro

My glorious zesty fish king gyokko

[tropic summit]

Him and kaigaku deffo the most disappointing upm

by their performance

[vernal parcel]

Tbh true

The creator wasted them

[tropic summit]

ye

[vernal parcel]

Should of added another character to fight gyokko

[tropic summit]

Manga was rushed

[molten pebble]

the eye aided him, not nerfed him, The manga stated the reason they struggled so much was because Gyuatro had a full spatial view of the battle

And it's silly to say Gyutaro sees his strongest opponent so far, is clearly reacting and dodging his attacks and decides to NERF himself to keep up

[vernal parcel]

Made him look way weaker then he acc is

[tropic summit]

He was still doing allat while fighting tengen right

[molten pebble]

the reason gyokko looks weak is because he fought a stronger opponent than Gyuatro did

[tropic summit]

At base, tengen clears

[molten pebble]

and Gyokko shitted on Base Mui did he not

[tropic summit]

not straight away

Took a few minutes

and he did not kill him

he shoulda killed him

atl gyatro made tengen retire

[molten pebble]

he didnt expect Mui to get a mark, he was going to kill him by drowning, besides his main goalw as to destroy the village Muichiro was just in the way

[vernal parcel]

a chicken vs a chicken would be a good fight,a chicken vs a fox would not is a perfect representation of gyokko vs Muichiro compared to gyutaro vs Tengen

The fox being Marked mui and the chicken being gyokko

[tropic summit]

marked is a different story tbh. gyatro still has better feats

He fought one the strongest hashira at base and the main mc, tanjiro

in the same time

he woulda won if he just woulda ended it when tanjiro was on the floor instead of toying with him

[vernal parcel]

That was a weakened Tanjiro tho because his fight with Daki

[tropic summit]

daki didn’t really do much to him

few wounds, but made tanjiro enraged

[molten pebble]

he fought one of the weakest pillars at base

[vernal parcel]

Give me like 2-5 mins lemme rewatch the fight

[tropic summit]

Tengen one the strongest at base wym

[molten pebble]

not at all

[tropic summit]

mui one the weakest at base

[tropic summit]

yes he is…

[molten pebble]

ur reasoning for that is what

[tropic summit]

his feats with gyataro

[molten pebble]

he fought an upper 6 level threat while everyone fought stronger opponents and outperformed him

[tropic summit]

With a mark, yeah

rengoku did better tho

[molten pebble]

pillars still had feats without a mark

[vernal parcel]

He had Tanjiros help

[molten pebble]

tengen is like 8th strongest pillar in base

[tropic summit]

Not at all

Whats ur base ranking list

tengen probably top 5

imo

[vernal parcel]

What’s the best Bda in the show like for versatility+Fighting

[vestal sable]

yazy_ore You’ve Reached Level 7

[tropic summit]

id say wind

[vernal parcel]

Karakus?

[tropic summit]

cuz wind is very offencive

ohh bda

Didn’t read that mb

[vernal parcel]

It’s cool

I gotta say Hantengu’s or nakime

[tropic summit]

well for offence, blood, destructive death, ice, moon,infinity castle,zokatens bda

[vernal parcel]

Nakime is pure defense and has some offence in the form
Of throwing buildings but those are usually dodged easily

[tropic summit]

Ice is verstilie,

Moon is good but its more of a breathing style so doesn’t count

[vernal parcel]

Hantengu’s is good because 4 upper rank demons that will defend you and can be fused into another clone with Al of there stats+BDA and power

[vernal parcel]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

yh and wood is op

destructive death is also good

my personal favourite

it’s mostly offence

blood is purely offence too

I wouldn’t say gyokkos bda is offence

[molten pebble]

1. Gyomei
2. Sanemi
3. SHinobu
4. Rengoku
5. Giyuu
6. Obanai
7. Mitsuri
8. Tengen
9. Mui

[tropic summit]

Why is shinobu so high

All she got going for her is speed

maybe agility

And poison

She barely lasted against douma

Obanai, giyu, rengoku woulda put a better fight at base

Id put 9th mui, 8th mitsuri, 7th shinobu, 6th tengen,

shonoby and tengen interchanable

[tropic summit]

Worst durability too, bad defence,

[vernal parcel]

Very versatile,summons fish demons to do your bidding and a pocket space inside your pots that you essentially become the god of whatever’s in your vase+poison needles and a vase that whatever is trapped can’t breathe and dies of suffocation and it can’t be broken out of due to its texture,and whatever you touch turns into fish which is very OP

[tropic summit]

The fish are weak no matter how much there are. Any bda or breathing style can handle them easiky

[vernal parcel]

They took out fodder demon slayers so there alright tbh wouldn’t be surprised if they are LM3 and under lvl

And obviously they gonna lose to a hashira

[tropic summit]

no them fish aren’t even lower moon level

they swamp demon level

😂

[tropic summit]

genya clears any fish

[vernal parcel]

Alr whatever you say

[molten pebble]

douma feats

[tropic summit]

Aight fr tho, the strong ones are equivalent to spider daddy

[tropic summit]

Overated

Anyway

I gtg

[dark thicket]

Nakime is capable of sending any demon to sunlight, which makes her BDA the strongest. On the other hand, Ubume's BDA is also increadiably powerful, making it top 2 strongest BDA overall due to how much consequences her BDA can make if the opponents try to face her BDA.

[vernal parcel]

Who the fuck is ubume

Ohh

Former Lower moon 1

[vernal parcel]

You know the portal would like burn up in the sun

Cuz the sun drstroyes anything demon related

And the sunlight demon thing isn’t rlly useful I don’t see any use for that unless your on the demon slayer side

[dark thicket]

Nakime doesn't have to summon a gate. She can simply teleport the individuals into random places. We saw her doing this when she was sending Gyokko, Hantengu, and Douma into different dimensions.

[vernal parcel]

Still what use is that

Unless your on the demon slayer side

Her bda is very good defs in top 4

I just think Hantengu’s is more versatile and maybe gyokkos and Doumas

[dark thicket]

Since you were talking about strongest BDAs then the first thing that comes to my mind is to think of a battle to death between all the demons. Nakime can send demons to sunlight, since it's the easiest way to kill demons. Meanwhile, for demon hunters, she can send them to dangerous places or situations such as; volcano, falling from a mountain, deep inside the sea, etc...

[vernal parcel]

I mean like Versatility,Offence and a defence

The best in all those catergories

Nakime is arguably the best in defense and versatility

Since she has a dimension and the little eye demons she can spawn and portals to negate attacks

[dark thicket]

Hantengu's BDA is indeed like an endless maze. But Karaku, Sekido, Aizetsu, and Urogi are weak. They keep getting weaker everytime someone beheads them. If the clones transform into Zohakuten or into that unknown purple/white clone, his BDA would be in a whole different level. There are a lot of situations where Tanjiro and his friends where lucky. For example, where Tanjiro and Mitsuri were getting swallowed by one of the lizards.

[vernal parcel]

Huh

Lizards? Purple and white clone?

Urogi?

I mean urami

[dark thicket]

Zohakuten calls the wooden dragons "lizards".

[vernal parcel]

Ohh the wood dragons

[vernal parcel]

True

[dark thicket]

The winged demon, joy demon.

[vernal parcel]

Tbh the best thing about the bda is how the user doesn’t have to do much tbh

[dark thicket]

Urami is the little Hantengu with the rank eyes that was hiding all the time.

[vernal parcel]

He has a meat shield in the form as urami who also had the powers of all the clones like Zohakuten

Hantengu+Nakime would be a dangerous duo

Nakime keeps the main body in the dimension while the other 4 fight forever and eventually kill them

[dark thicket]

If Muzan was smart, he would've done that.

[tidal shoal]

That’s why Muscle mice neg

[dark thicket]

Murata scares them all

[tidal shoal]

TRUE

[upbeat ravine]

which anime

We didn't finish

[tidal shoal]

Bro

From Drmon slayer

[upbeat ravine]

ok

[tidal shoal]

Noob

I’m right

[upbeat ravine]

what

[upbeat ravine]

Shush

let's get started

[tidal shoal]

Hisoka is a peak character

[upbeat ravine]

k I'm not debating with you anymore

[tidal shoal]

LOL

[full shale]

monster kokushibo>longsword kokushibo >marked gyomei> stw muichiro > marked sanemi >base kokushibo = shinobu > base sanemi>(perception blitz above) douma > (stated akaza cant win against douma under any condition) akaza > marked muichiro

[tidal shoal]

you said "why not" when i said none of them are beating um1 in a 1v1

then now you're saying its true

[full shale]

OH

oh yae

[tidal shoal]

but icl maybe muichiro when he's older 🗣️

[full shale]

i thought u meant no one can kill top 3 uppermoons

[crisp marsh]

too bad hes dead

[tidal shoal]

ohhhh lmao

[tidal shoal]

type shit

[crisp marsh]

i wish douma wasnt a tard man

[full shale]

would easily scale above long sword kokushibo but idk abt monster kokushibo

[tidal shoal]

Same but then it'd be too easy

[crisp marsh]

too much glaze

[full shale]

douma wasnt a tard

hes literally INSANELY smart

[crisp marsh]

muichiro when hes like 22 shouldnt be able to beat someone with like 480+ years of experience

[tidal shoal]

If he evolved, then let's say the other characters did as well

[full shale]

people genuinely think suppressed emotions = always toying around or cant think normally

[tidal shoal]

aka headless akaza & koku

they'd be top tier

[full shale]

he at 14 scales above base kokushibo so yes very well he can

[tidal shoal]

akaza would be um2

[crisp marsh]

he grabbed inosuke’s mask and kanao’s sword then walked out of the room after summoning clones

[tidal shoal]

idk about douma atp

[tidal shoal]

woah wait a minute

when he fought koku

he lost

[crisp marsh]

https://gyazo.com/954592d32c388306bccd6b4e5dc9889d.gif

[full shale]

WEAKER VERSION

[tidal shoal]

he only got good because of the fight

that wouldnt happen

[full shale]

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT

[tidal shoal]

if it was a straight 1v1 lol

[full shale]

ok look at this

hear me out

and read what i type PROPERLY

[crisp marsh]

never let him cook bruh wtf

[tidal shoal]

so u want me to accept

something that depends on a future that wouldnt happen if they initially fought 😭

[crisp marsh]

stw muichiro > kokushibo in any state in a 1v1 💀💀💀

no bro

u didnt cook

bro glazes the 14 year old a little too much

[crisp marsh]

yeah he wouldnt even unlock stw he would just die after being impaled 😭😭

[tidal shoal]

yea

[vestal sable]

aeskoharu You’ve Reached Level 9

[tidal shoal]

but if he wants to say that

if muichiro somehow got that strong

without that happening

then fair enough

but long sword koku is base koku no ??????? like...

its not like he evolved

thats his power

[full shale]

base kokushibo perception blitzed a MARKED MUICHIRO

get that, JUST MARKED

stw muichiro is stronger than marked muichiro we know this because a stw muichiro can consistently react to LSK attacks, LSK is stronger than BASE KOKUSHIBO, get that, so stw muichiro is relative to stronger versions of kokushibo than his base

meaning HE SCALES ABOVE KOKUSHIBOS BASE

also im scaling STW MUICHIRO meaning the muichiro WHO ALREADY HAS STW UNLOCKED

so no he doesnt NEED TO UNLOCK IT

THATS HOW SCALING WORKS

@tidal shoal

[tidal shoal]

loool

[full shale]

do u understand now

[tidal shoal]

yeah fair enough

monster koku is better though

right

so technically

[full shale]

good

[tidal shoal]

1v1 wise

[full shale]

yea

[tidal shoal]

he wins?

yea aight

[full shale]

monster kokushibo is a perception blitz above LSK

LSK wins against stw muichiro in a 1v1 tho

[tidal shoal]

Perception blitzing himself??

[crisp marsh]

is it stated he gets an actual boost in LS form

[tidal shoal]

Yuh

[full shale]

marked gyomei is relative to LSK

monster koku

Perception blitzed

gyomei

[full shale]

yes

gyomei states higher speed

larger aoe

range

complex shapes making it harder to react

because the shapes are switching sides and angles

[crisp marsh]

isnt that just him using his arsernal lol

[full shale]

when did i say it isnt

thats still a stronger version of him

[crisp marsh]

muichiro after extreme diffing kokushibo (he used like 1 moon breathing form)

https://tenor.com/view/alien-mexico-bruh-lol-meme-gif-3644559616563625347

[tidal shoal]

LOL

[full shale]

Weaker muichiro btw

[molten pebble]

hi fattie

[tidal shoal]

@full shale

Where you placing Tanjiro on your list?

[full shale]

below giyuu

[molten pebble]

huh

[molten pebble]

13th form?

[full shale]

hes kinda weak

[tidal shoal]

reasoning?

[full shale]

on a featless muzan who perception blitzed featless hashira

[molten pebble]

who took over ur account

[tidal shoal]

Featless muzan lol

[molten pebble]

😭

[tidal shoal]

LOL

He cleared Akaza

In that one phase

Also DKT?

[full shale]

the muan tanjiro fought is featless

muzan*

dkt is weak

[molten pebble]

dkt murata victim

[full shale]

demons with their humanity left in them arent strong

[tidal shoal]

What can kill DKT

Lmk

[full shale]

wisteria

hes still a demon

another demon could also just absorb him

[molten pebble]

that's not true he blitzed 7 pillars ☠️

[full shale]

all featless

theyre all injured

massively

[tidal shoal]

None of them 1v1ing Muzan though

😂

Bro was also poisoned

[full shale]

whcih makes him above featless pillars???

[tidal shoal]

and old age

[molten pebble]

yes but how does that make Muzan featless?

[tidal shoal]

How’s Muzan featless

[tropic summit]

tanjiro and obanai did

[tidal shoal]

He’s better than his UMs so consider their feats as his

[full shale]

the drugged version??

[tropic summit]

i think obanai did anyway

[tidal shoal]

R u dumb

I mean to the death

Without help

[tropic summit]

chill i didn’t read above

[tidal shoal]

ur food

good

[molten pebble]

Obanai and Mitsuri weren't injured, they were at full stamina, Muzan clearly blitzed Mitsuri and Obanai both who received helped from the other pillars??

[full shale]

they had to constantly move around in the infinity castle for hours to not get killed

[tropic summit]

mitsuri barely did anything tbh

[full shale]

they were not at full stamina

at all

also mitsuri and obanai are upper 4 lvl

[tidal shoal]

Bro

[full shale]

both fodder and weak

[tidal shoal]

You’re dumb

If you think anyone is 1v1ing Muzan

😭

[full shale]

prime muzan**

[tropic summit]

Mitsuri is upm5 lvl

[full shale]

the muzan who fights tanjiro is heavily drugged

[full shale]

upper 4

[tropic summit]

not even

[full shale]

so u didnt see her going toe 2 toe with zohakuten in base

[molten pebble]

Pillars are known to have unnaturally high stamina, Obanai and Mitsuri never complained about getting tired, Mitsuri fought an Upper 4 level clone from night till sunrise, she will not tire that easily especially considering the fact she was barely hit?

[tidal shoal]

Yeah they’re not 1v1ing him bro

[molten pebble]

she's obviously Upper 4 level are you serious ☠️

[tropic summit]

she barely went toe to toe, she was gonna die even with her mark

[molten pebble]

you are joking.

[full shale]

remember she only fought him for afew hours

also im arguing with someone in another vc

i mean server

so ill be back here later

[tidal shoal]

she would have died if it was a 1v1

[molten pebble]

no she wouldn't.'

[tropic summit]

true

[tidal shoal]

there would be the other versions too

[tropic summit]

this ain’t mitsuri slayer idk what u watching bruh

[tidal shoal]

why u think it took tanjiro and her

[tropic summit]

She was gonna die

[molten pebble]

Zohakuten was carried by Hax, he would have died within minutes if not for his inf regen

[molten pebble]

please explain how she was barely keeping up?

[tidal shoal]

Ok and? You’re saying he’d win LOL

If you remove something from someone, then obviously

We’re not considering that though

[tropic summit]

she was keeping it for a lil while. She has trash stamina so she woulda died

[molten pebble]

If Zohakuten did not have inf regen, He would died from mitsuri

[tropic summit]

no

[tidal shoal]

I won’t argue cause I won’t bother with something extremely theoretical

[molten pebble]

How does she have trash stamina, She fought Zohakuten from NIGHT TO SUNRISE??

[tidal shoal]

So you agree she would lose @molten pebble

[tropic summit]

He a glazer bruh

[tidal shoal]

Cause of his infinite regeneration

But without it, he would lose

?

[molten pebble]

if zohakuten did not have inf regen no

if he did, yes she would lose

[tidal shoal]

Ok

You brought something up

that wasn’t considered at all

You silly bum

Of course any other situation is possible

[molten pebble]

you are making the claim mitusri isnt upper 4 level even though she CLEARLY is

[tidal shoal]

yet we aren’t talking about that

🤣

[tropic summit]

No she isnt

[vestal sable]

hammersmit121_ You’ve Reached Level 7

[tropic summit]

zohakuten wipes

[molten pebble]

you saw one scene off her crying because she was out of stamina forgetting the fact Zohakuten literally admits he cant get through her and has to tire her out to kill her 🤦

[tidal shoal]

To survive for a bit, yes.

[tropic summit]

mitsuri like high upm 5 level

[molten pebble]

Oh my god SHUT UP