🤬│debate

[molten pebble]

wasn't

that muzan legit just blitzed all pillars

unless u think akaza>gyomei

which is js wrong

and tanjiro legit states him fighting muzan would put him through hell and tanjiro is a blitz above akaza at this point

and gyomei could already follow LS kokushibo's atatcks, then gets blitzed by thigh whips muzan

i can also debunk him "reacting" to that blitz inosuke said

so uh

Tanjiro~Thigh Whips Muzan>>>>>STW Gyomei~LS Kokushibo

[nocturne gull]

He is not relative to muzan bro💀

[molten pebble]

he is????

I can even argue >~

[ornate galleon]

Weakened LS kokushibo

GENYA carried that fight so hard

[ornate galleon]

He literally was on par with a super weakened muzan

Also you can easily argue that the only reason tanjiro was on par was because muzans power level dropped below tanjiros

[split wren]

Tanjiro loses to LS kokushibo

And douma

When he's serious

[west topaz]

I would run Giyu vs anyone except Muzan and Yoriichi

[unreal knot]

what is LS

[nocturne gull]

Talking about the muzan which yoricchi fought

4th drug muzan is ofc on par with tanjiro

He was getting blitzed repeatedly

[molten pebble]

GOJO WHAT HAPPENED???

[molten pebble]

Weakened? when the fuck was Kokushibo weakened when fighting Gyomei 💀 Gyomei litreally was reacting to his attacks before Kokushibo got hit by Genya's BDA

[molten pebble]

*was on par with a muzan who just blitzed 7 pillar level chars

Tanjiro quite litreally says "He is weakening, but yet STILL so strong."

13th form Tanjiro>STW Tanjiro>>Akaza 😭

the muzan that Tanjiro fought is easily => LS Kokushibo or just plain above

it's scarred muzan that's doodoo trash

anyways, Gojo is a fraud!!!

[molten pebble]

i hate you

[ornate galleon]

All of those pillars where unquantifiable and don't scale anywhere since they were below base

[nocturne gull]

No gojo ded

😭

[nocturne gull]

Do not make me

whos the fraud between sukuna nd gojo

😭

[molten pebble]

all of those pillars were experienced amp, and marked and critical growth amped and were Death amped

waaaaaaay above there base

they weren't even poisoned they legit healed from it soooo....

saying they are weaker than their base selfs is silly

[molten pebble]

sukuna cut space

so any character that can cut through space>gojo

Langris>Gojo

Zenon>Gojo

Lucifero>Gojo

Yami>Gojo

[ornate galleon]

I don't count feats with death amps so basically all I'm hearing is all their feats are outliers

[molten pebble]

they got legit like 100 other amps in that muzan fight

can you also prove they were weaker than their base forms

cuz im gonna js dismiss through hitchens razor

and calling DA feats outliers is also really silly

and no way obanai would be weaker than his base self when he quite litreally gets amped 3 times mid fight ☠️

so my scale still stands: 13th form Tanjiro~Thigh Whips Muzan>>>>>>>>>>>>>STW Gyomei~LS Kokushibo

[nocturne gull]

Because of mahoraga

Also gojo is probably gonna be revived

[nocturne gull]

hence he is a fucking fraud

Fraudkuna fans bro

[molten pebble]

SUkuna's attacks cut into the soul lmfao he ain't reviving shit

[molten pebble]

"Sukuna used his own attack to beat someone he is a fraud"

[nocturne gull]

It is mentioned that there are like 2 choices

To go south and north

Like its just head cannon tho

A theory

[molten pebble]

🤷‍♂️

sukuna 4 life

[nocturne gull]

Bro he adapted because of mahoraga

He literally 3v1

😭

He stood no chance without 10 shadows bro

No chance

[molten pebble]

Gojo got the muichiro treatment

[nocturne gull]

This is so true

😭

[molten pebble]

that's his ability??? 😭

[nocturne gull]

BRO WAS KILLED OFF SCREEN TOO

😭😭😭😭

[molten pebble]

EMBARRASING

[nocturne gull]

It is

[nocturne gull]

His ability is nnot to steal other peoples technique

Its cleave and dismantle

Cleave and dismantle sukuna doesnt stand a chance against gojo

[molten pebble]

look at media

[nocturne gull]

And he was at full 20 fingerrpower because of eatinf his corpse

Whats media again?

[molten pebble]

the channel

[nocturne gull]

SHUT UP

😭😭😭😭

This is so embarassing bro

Sukuna still gonna die tho

By kashimo

Or gonna get absorbed by kenjaku

So

It doesnt matter

But gojo

😢

[molten pebble]

fly high sukuna victim

[split wren]

@molten pebble

Gilgamesh (archer) vs goku

[molten pebble]

probably a ben 10 victim

[split wren]

STOP

Anwser the question

[molten pebble]

idk Gilgamesh solos (I have no idea who that fodder is)

[split wren]

Gilgamesh has all manipulations

@vestal sable

[vestal sable]

Hi

[tame rampart]

ew

[split wren]

What

[vestal sable]

yall debating every day

[raven crater]

Yes we are

[molten pebble]

alien x victim

[nocturne gull]

Man i hope gojo gets rrvived somehow

It wont be good for plot but still

Anyways i want yuji to do something now

Bros not even a significant character anymore

[molten pebble]

no

he is half of a man that he used to be

[nocturne gull]

💀

There was a panel of lotuses in the leaks

Which signifies rebirth

There was the north south thing

Him saying goodbye to the dead when he should say hi

Just speculation tho

So ye

[molten pebble]

no

[nocturne gull]

It makes sense tho

[molten pebble]

no

im doing a debate on Shinobu+Tanjiro vs Akaza+Douma and this guy is legit not proving anything 😭

i wrote a whole paragraph and this monkey said "I'm not gonna debunk it akaza solos both mid diff" LMFAO

[vestal sable]

acid_petals You’ve Reached Level 16

[nocturne gull]

Gyomie vs tanjiro

(tanjiro wins)

(Low diff at that)

[molten pebble]

insane Kartik W

u are growing as a person

congrats

[nocturne gull]

💀

I mean this fights scaling is easy

[molten pebble]

very

Gyomei got dogshit on my thigh whips muzan(cry miggly)

tanjiro fought muzan and kept up with him and that muzan solos kokushibos(cry harder miggly)

so

tanjiro solos gyomei

and kokushibo

basically 3rd strongest in da verse
(dkt is trash )

[nocturne gull]

Bro the fucking strongest edits

Of jjk

Why is instagram bombarding me with them

😭

[molten pebble]

sukuna my king solo gojo

[nocturne gull]

Bro didnt solo

💀

Team effort type shit

[nocturne gull]

Is kagura bachi demon slayer

[whole field]

What even is kagura bachi

[nocturne gull]

New "best" manga

According to some people

And the funny part is

Only a single chapter has been released

And it seems mid

💀

The glazing is so insan

e

"best animanga"

These people must have only watched naruto or some

[whole field]

💀

[upbeat ravine]

Don't bring naruto into this 💀

[nocturne gull]

Just an example cause beginners mostly start anime with naruto

Naruto mid anyways

[west topaz]

Giyu>>>>

[nocturne gull]

No way you said that bro

Bros gonna get beyond neg diffed by 13th form tanjiro

[whole field]

Didn't Giyu hardly even win the fight against Akaza?

What's he gonna do to douma,kokushibo, dkt, or Muzan

[inland warren]

tanjiro and shinobu would lose

akaza would barely be affected by poison, and akaza can cover for douma if he’s crippled from eating shinobu

then it’d be tanjiro vs akaza + weak douma

and it’s also proven that a weakened douma is still really strong

basically this is what’s gonna happen:

Akaza and Douma are gonna start absolutely bodying Tanjiro and Shinobu. Douma will defeat and eat Shinobu, poisoning him, but Akaza will not really be affected because he doesn’t eat women. Then Tanjiro would have to fight Douma and Akaza

[west topaz]

Tanjiro destroys Akaza and Douma conbined

[vestal sable]

alerted You’ve Reached Level 5

[west topaz]

Giyu built better

[west topaz]

Speed blitz

[nocturne gull]

I am not gonna even waste time on you bro

💀

[nocturne gull]

Douma will not start snacking mid fight

[whole field]

All of them are faster than Giyu...

[nocturne gull]

Also tanjiroo can fight douma and akaza

💀

13th form tanjiro speed blitzed muzan dude

Like come on

[west topaz]

I’m miles better then pink vomit btw

[nocturne gull]

Dude you literally said giyu could speed blitz kokushibo

💀

[west topaz]

He didn’t?

[west topaz]

You can ask them

[nocturne gull]

Them is who

[vestal sable]

kartik_isbatukam You’ve Reached Level 13

[nocturne gull]

💀

[west topaz]

Pinkvomit

[nocturne gull]

bro you are the one who i am debating

What does he gotta do with this

💀

[west topaz]

Not what I meant

But anyway

[nocturne gull]

And he held up muzan for so much time when gyomie absolutely got shitted by him

[west topaz]

Tanjiro never blitzed Muzan unless you refer to like 3rd drug

I can’t send scans here

[nocturne gull]

Media

Also all the hashira together couldnt do shit

Tanjiro stated muzan has gotten weaker

But he is stil HIM

The scaling is so easy bro

[west topaz]

Tanjiro initially fought second drug and got kinda owned ngl
He was still reacting putting him above Gyomei

[nocturne gull]

He wasnt even 13th form then

And he stilll reacted lol

He hadnt even recieved the amp

My battery is on 2% so i may just leave mid way

[west topaz]

Mf Giyu~IC Muzan

[nocturne gull]

I am not good with shortforms

💀

He held up muzan for approximately 10 mins i think

Alone

Or was it 5mins

I dont remember it well

[ornate galleon]

Could easily argue he was holding back

Also do u believe in dkt feats?

[west topaz]

Isn’t really a defeater as him holding back would jus mean that holding back him>Koku

[west topaz]

No

[ornate galleon]

Ok

Most ppl saying that alot of slayers > gyomei cuz of dkt feats

Even tho the only reason gyomei died from muzan was because he's 27 yrs old

[west topaz]

Only Giyu and Tanjiro are above

[ornate galleon]

Giyuu isn't

Tanjiro idm that

But gyomei shits on giyuu

Gyomei was massively nerfed

The slayer mark was actively killing him

[west topaz]

Giyu scales to WHM
Gyomei doesn’t
Doesn’t matter if Gyomei was nerfed
Giyu’s above Koku who’s above healthy Gyomei

[ornate galleon]

No one scales to whm

Every hashira was on a death amp

• divided attention

And u can't say he was fighting multiple hashira at the same time meaning he's above all thoes hashira combined because thoes hashira were fatigued and massively injured

Especially sanemi, giyuu, tanjiro

Sanemi had to stitch up his organs while giyuu and tanjiro were flying through walls

And obanai and mitsuri had to constantly dodge for hours on end

Non stop

Cuz of nakime

Kanao and inosuke probs had frost bite + kanao perception was lowered due to her eye being injured + other injuries

And then zenitsus skin was being melted

And none of them have any narratives either

U can scale whm first drug above akaza

But the end game muzan was fodder

[fair leaf]

what does whm mean

[molten pebble]

No

They horrendously no diff them

STW Tanjiro is already a blitz above Akaza

Shinobu can just poison Akaza while he tries to regen his head

Douma then gets jumped

[molten pebble]

Shinobu can already stand her ground with Douma Tanjiro can just cut up Akaza before he breaks down the poison(not like you can prove Akaza can break it down)

[molten pebble]

They weren’t death amped after getting vaccinated by Chachamaru+ Death amp only happens when there is actually chance for you to live if mitsuri is fighting a fucking Nuclear bomb she won’t get death amped because she isn’t living period. 😭

[ornate galleon]

Ds high tiers can tank nukes

[molten pebble]

Is this why Hakim calls u a goon because u take Giyuu’s whm feats seriously 😭

[ornate galleon]

So weird comparison but I get what u mean

Also thats not how it works

It's not if there's a chance for you to live

[molten pebble]

💀

[ornate galleon]

A death amp is trying make a chance for you to live

[molten pebble]

Anyways mark amps your stamina and endurance and recovery time so🤕

Lemme check YT shorts I made a whole paragraph on why 7/9 of base pillars p.blitz Gyuatro

[vestal sable]

Shounen new 2024 ?

[whole field]

What?

[nocturne gull]

Muzan is not tanking the sun bro

What is he gonna do against a tsar bomb

😭

Whip it? 😭

[whole field]

Non of the ds characters can do anything against a bomb 💀

The elements their breathing aren't even actually there

[nocturne gull]

Ds verse can get america'd so easily bro

[nocturne gull]

Arent*

[whole field]

Oops typo

[whole field]

They probably cant survive the average school shooter

[fair leaf]

Even if Akaza tried to break down Shinobus poison, that takes time, with douma he was on the ground without being attacked and it still took him a bit of time to overcome it

What makes you think that Tanjiro couldn't cut his head off and then some

Vertically in half too

You guys remember what Tokito did you Gyokko after he cut his head off?

Shinobu and Akaza would clown on his pack

[molten pebble]

I giggled at this

[molten pebble]

You ate this up

[fair leaf]

I'm a straight male but yassss

I feel weird after typing that

Shoot me

Please @molten pebble

[molten pebble]

🤑

[fair leaf]

Me when Astolfo

Can't play wo a joystick

[ornate galleon]

8/9*

[molten pebble]

Base mui too?

[ornate galleon]

Blocked messages ate fr

[molten pebble]

Miggly I have something you would love

[ornate galleon]

Oh base

[ornate galleon]

Is it 10000000, robux

Cuz atp I'm not making it to 16

Life sucks

[molten pebble]

I have 57 robux 🤕

[ornate galleon]

The humans in the Verse have large city durability

And that's the mid tiers

[molten pebble]

🤑

[ornate galleon]

Yoriichi has large island durability low balling it

[molten pebble]

DKT boundless

[ornate galleon]

Yea

[molten pebble]

Miggly look in media

[ornate galleon]

Why did he say YEEOUCH LMFAOOO

[molten pebble]

“Nakime victim NGL”- Giyuu Tomioka 2023

[fair leaf]

Nuh uh

Giyuu flies in creative mode and kills Nakime

Don't question me nor quote me on that btw

[molten pebble]

Real shit

[fair leaf]

Me when Astolfo whips out the penis and maple syrup

Under the table footjobs for botha us

Don't quote this one either

[whole field]

Bro what 💀

This is what happens when you give 5th graders internet

[fair leaf]

Bro I'm not gay

I am not of the homosexualness

Don't quote what I said before

Was all harmless jokes

[whole field]

What does that have to do with what I said?

It's still weird that you said it

[fair leaf]

I was just stating the other parts

Nuh uh

Astolfo is better than any woman could be

Besides you

👍💀👍

This is satirical by the way

[ornate galleon]

I just saw the original by borasilino on tiktok

[molten pebble]

I found it for you😻

[ornate galleon]

Ty bae

[molten pebble]

Miggly you should follow me on insta 😍

Did he js dip wtf!!!

[whole field]

Bro admitted to being gay 😭

[ornate galleon]

I don't ever stay to read chat after I say smthing lol

[molten pebble]

Follow me insta we could be bffs!😻or lets play Roblox (this is me asking you on a date)

[ornate galleon]

Lmao I don't have insta

[vestal sable]

miggly_ You’ve Reached Level 28

[upbeat ravine]

No

[nocturne gull]

Mid is mid

😴

[upbeat ravine]

you just didn't understand it well

[molten pebble]

Let’s play Roblox together then

[ornate galleon]

I was just Abt to play fruit battlegrounds

Go dms

[molten pebble]

ok so

Tanjiro solos

cuz he scales higher

[royal briar]

Kokushibou can kill him solo

🔥🔥

[molten pebble]

why

[royal briar]

Cuz he stronger

[molten pebble]

can u prove that 🥰

[royal briar]

Alr

[molten pebble]

what feats

cuz tanjiro is stronger

[royal briar]

Kokushibou have 16 skills but tanjiro has 13 skills

Kokushibou has been alive since 500 years

[molten pebble]

13th form Tanjiro~Thigh Whips Muzan>>>>>STW Gyomei~LS Kokushibo

[molten pebble]

😭

[molten pebble]

Gyokko has been alive for like 400 years but got low diffed by Marked Mui

so experience isn't that good

[royal briar]

Cuz mui awaked his mark

[royal briar]

But I’m pretty sure kokushibou can kill tanjiro marked

[molten pebble]

nah tanjiro fought Thigh whips muzan who blitzed stw gyomei who could react and keep up with kokushibo

[inland warren]

y’all ever considered that maybe whoever made demon slayer wasn’t the best at power scaling?

[molten pebble]

cuz he put more effort in character writing than the plot

[inland warren]

fair enough

[tame rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/zom-100-zom-100-ending-gif-14920895958034286902

[inland warren]

it’s kinda funny that he made the upper moons 3 to 1 so strong he had to find some way to kill them

[molten pebble]

if you take a deep dive in the characters of ds you will notice some like Giyuu sanemi and shinobu and Douma and Kokushibo are very well written

then the plot is js all over

[tame rampart]

This channel gotta be the worst one on the server

[inland warren]

bad power scaling + bad writing + animations made the fight pretty boring

[tame rampart]

Shits more demon slayer related than the server itself

[inland warren]

i agree

it’s either demon slayer or controversial topics

[tame rampart]

I prefer the controversial

[inland warren]

oh really?

[molten pebble]

the power scaling got bad SSVA before the marks came it was waaaaay more consistent

[tame rampart]

Better than this shit above me

[inland warren]

is debate on controversial stuff allowed?

at least in this channel?

[molten pebble]

mitsuri vs zohakuten should have been better animated

[inland warren]

yep

[tame rampart]

Yes

As long as its not general chat

[molten pebble]

very missed chance to have given it the tengen vs gyuatro treatment since 90% of it was offscreen

[tame rampart]

Ideally make a thread here for controversial topics too

[inland warren]

should trans people be allowed to choose the gender used for official stuff (i.e. documents)?

[molten pebble]

yes

[inland warren]

no 💀

[molten pebble]

why

what's ur reason

[inland warren]

i don’t want an attack helicopter entering an airport

[molten pebble]

erm...

[inland warren]

unless it’s limited to male/female

then fine

[molten pebble]

well duh those are xenogenders

[inland warren]

yeah i don’t think they should be officially recognised

[tame rampart]

be a man or a woman idc but no made up shit

[molten pebble]

gender =/= sex

[tame rampart]

the most i can agree with is unidentified

you cant wake up and say i feel like a dog today

[molten pebble]

let's talk abt winx club

bloom is a fucking bitch

[tame rampart]

and tomorrow switch again

[inland warren]

that’s not an identification that’s a delusion

[tame rampart]

its just people who got too much free time and live too comfortable and require attention in their boring white people life

[molten pebble]

i know someone who had Huffle/Puff as their pornouns

[tame rampart]

lack any form of joy from normal shit so they make up bullshit to be different cuz they just a basic ass whitey

[inland warren]

should members of the lgbtq and climate change protesters who disrupt daily activies (like commuting) be stopped from doing so?

[tame rampart]

yes

distrub lives of politicians

not normal people

we got bills to pay

and people to look after

[inland warren]

tbh don’t disturb anyone

[molten pebble]

yes

[tame rampart]

if they dont disturb the people in the top, they will be ignored

but them disturbing normal people on their way to work

[inland warren]

should children be allowed to identify as a gender besides their biological sex?

[molten pebble]

yeah

[tame rampart]

not until a certain age

[inland warren]

NO

[tame rampart]

kids dont know shit

mfs cant even spell their name

[molten pebble]

yea what No Ne said

[inland warren]

at least 18

[molten pebble]

certain age

nah 15-16 is fine

[inland warren]

gender is a pretty responsible decision

[tame rampart]

16 minimum

no lower

[molten pebble]

15 or 16

[inland warren]

most 15 year olds don’t know jack shit about real life decisions

i love this channel now

[molten pebble]

mmm

[inland warren]

i can be completely unhinged

[inland warren]

im 15 i can confirm

[tame rampart]

cant vote, cant drink alc, cant join the army then you cant start changing documents

[inland warren]

i just don’t get why people wanna start creating extra genders

[tame rampart]

until the age of 18 you are legally under care of your parents or whoever may be looking after you

[tame rampart]

bored, attention seeking, mental delusions

[molten pebble]

"catgender" gtfo

[inland warren]

☠️

[molten pebble]

i blame them for homophobia

embarrassing us

[inland warren]

the only people who get to use their own chosen pronouns are people who really don’t have a choice

like people with dissociative identity disorder

or people born without a definitive gender

[molten pebble]

brb

[inland warren]

i won’t be here when you come back

[tame rampart]

lol

[molten pebble]

ok back

dam fr

[nocturne gull]

i identify as a walmart bag

Fuck you

🥰

[pliant thorn]

My Hashira list

Gyomei (was capable of blitzing LS kokushibo and muzan)
Sanemi (was capable of dodging and parrying all kokushibo and LS kokushibo and was also be able to blitz muzan)
Obanai (was capable of blitzing um4 and also was be able to parry and tank all muzan attacks while being blinded)
Shinobu (was capable of blitzing douma multiple times even while being cut but due to douma resisting poison she lost)
Giyu ( did tanked a kick from akaza in compass needle and was capable of keeping up with him until akaza became faster in his slayer mark)
Rengoku (was capable of blitzing akaza in compass needle and making him focus on defense)
Mitsuri (was capable of fighting um4 until morning but the help of tanjiro saved her from being blitzed
Muichiro (was capable of defeating um5 with slayer mark)
Tengen (incapable of defeating um6 but later on blitzed them)

[pliant thorn]

@molten pebble @ornate galleon

Review?

[ornate galleon]

Obanai never blitzes nakime, sanemi had to get saved by every hit after dodging one , not having muichiro top 5 after he out scales sanemi in the LS fight is weird

[tame rampart]

demon slayer, all wrong

all suck

0/10

[ornate galleon]

Shinobu is a muichiro victim

[tame rampart]

find a new hobby

[ornate galleon]

Obanai is a shinobu victim

[pliant thorn]

Bocchi the rock?

[ornate galleon]

And if u don't scale giyuu with whm feats then rengoku > marked giyuu

[tame rampart]

peak

[pliant thorn]

I will need to re read the manga

Then change some list

[pliant thorn]

Well I kinda would base them =

[pliant thorn]

Well keeping muichiro under mitsuri is better

In his slayer mark he still almost got hit by gyokko

In his awaken form

[ornate galleon]

Is it a base list?

Or FP everyone ?

[pliant thorn]

The ones that were able to use slayer mark

[nocturne gull]

Debate jjba br

Its better

😼

[ornate galleon]

Stw Marked muichiro> marked sanemi

Normally I'd say sanemi cuz he's more well rounded and his stats are not far off from.muichiro

But, in a human vs human it's just about who is faster

And muichiro is faster

[nocturne gull]

I love you

So much

Finally muichiro got his recognition

[pliant thorn]

Well I wouldn't really say that

[ornate galleon]

I would

Sanemi gets blitzed

[pliant thorn]

If unmarked sanemi blocking kokushibo attacks while marked muichiro is getting blitzed ftl

[ornate galleon]

I said stw marked muichiro

Did u only watch the first half of the fight ?

[pliant thorn]

What is stw

[upbeat ravine]

see through world

[fair leaf]

wait no

i didnt

trust me

[ornate galleon]

Btw I can scale Shinobu past Goku

[nocturne gull]

Pillar men vs hashira

(pillar men wins)

Without red stone of aja

[upbeat ravine]

yes ofc pilar men win

[molten pebble]

Muichiro should be waaaaay higher, If you are gonna use Muzan feats Shinobu would be way lower, Maybe 6 or 7. Top 3 is alright.

[molten pebble]

It would be =>

[pliant thorn]

Goku would win

What would be the point of debating that anyways

[molten pebble]

Troll scaling obviously 🙄

[whole field]

Pillar men solo

And the average vampire in jojo against the average demon with a bda will have a vampire win

Well it depends

Then again if it's just an average bda then probably a vampire wins since the average vampire can destroy a whole wall with strength alone

[ornate galleon]

Shinobu> Douma > kokushibo= gojo

Shinobu is boundless

[ornate galleon]

A demons bda starts to form when they near Lowermoon le El

Level*

And most jjba characters don't have good speed and strength they just have mad hacks

[whole field]

The swamp demon wasn't near lowermoon level

[ornate galleon]

When they near lower moon level

I would argue without nezuko the swamp demon would've been harder than kyogai

[whole field]

Most jjba characters use their stands for speed and strength so yeah

Most jjba characters are just regular people with normal strength

Also wasn't the demon that Tanjiro fought right before he meant Urokodaki have a bda?

Nvm

[ornate galleon]

I think the demon just had good shape shifting

Every demon gets shape shifting to a certain extent

[whole field]

Hm I guess so

Well the average vampire in jojo vs average demon (without bda) a vampire would win but in cases of bdas the demon would probably win

If it's a vampire like Esidisi, Kars, or Wamuu that's a different story

[nocturne gull]

Jotaros punches and reaction is light speed

Mftl*

Saying they dont have good speed is so dumb

[ornate galleon]

Most*

Learn to read

[nocturne gull]

Polnareff deflected sun rays

And sp is faster then polanareff

So

The stands which dont have good reaction speed are trash most of the times

All the main character stsnds mostly have light speed reaction time and speed

And hax is just a different story

And theres like wou who can even beat goku so

[fair leaf]

muichiro at 8 is crazyy

[ornate galleon]

Hot take: akaza, hatred, anger are the only smart demons in kny

Hatred and anger mainly

They were the only ones who did not fuck around and find out

Anger was on everyone's dick telling them to hurry the fuck up and kill tanjiro

And hatred was not even sparing a second as soon as he got the chance he was gonna kill mitsuri

[pliant thorn]

Muichiro is just pathetic

Lacks any feats

[molten pebble]

Techniques start to form when your lowermoon level abilities form when you are swamp demon level

[molten pebble]

He scales to LS Kokushibo Low end Relativity Bare Minimum

[pliant thorn]

Shinobu is not boundless

[molten pebble]

Not rlly tbh

[pliant thorn]

Who does

[molten pebble]

STW Mui

[pliant thorn]

Stw is useless

The dumbest technique ever

[molten pebble]

Nah you get a major speed amp and you get Akaza slayer speed

So not useless

Like MST

[pliant thorn]

Ass*

[molten pebble]

😹😹😹😹

[pliant thorn]

Speed that boosts from massively hypersonic to sub relativistic

[molten pebble]

Why the fuck is Roblox not opening

[molten pebble]

Erm scale???

[pliant thorn]

Speed scale

[molten pebble]

What speed scale

[pliant thorn]

Fuck you

Well all Hashira and uppermoons are massively hypersonic

[ornate galleon]

Most are ftl

[molten pebble]

Gay ass scale

[molten pebble]

MHS+ and Tanjiro, Muzan Yorrichi is relativistic

[ornate galleon]

Ftl

[molten pebble]

No

[inland warren]

smash or pass hantengu

[ornate galleon]

Yes

[nocturne gull]

Whats relativistic?

[ornate galleon]

You still haven't debunked the scale

[fair leaf]

Slayed a lower moon at 11-12 within 2 months of being a slayer

Then went and soloed upper 5 at 14 while protecting the swordsmiths

[nocturne gull]

So true

[nocturne gull]

Kokushibo was not toying around

I mean kind of at the end he could have trsnsformed and finished the fight but he didnt so

[whole field]

It was never specified how we became a hashira

You either kill 50 demons or a lowermoon or uppermoon

[pliant thorn]

None of them are ftl

[vestal sable]

teach5559 You’ve Reached Level 8

[pliant thorn]

Make me more impress

[inland warren]

he sort of was

he was kinda testing muichiro at the start

but he made sure he wouldn’t get overpowered by muichiro

[nocturne gull]

He was definetly not having fun

He was still serious

Unlike doma

[molten pebble]

Prove that he only killed 50 demons the only ones who were confirmed to have killed Lowers were Shinobu, Rengoku and Sanemi

[molten pebble]

Relative to the speed of light

75% the speed of light I think

And they aren’t FTL a kakushi was capable of perceiving the Muzan fight if they are FTL the kakushi will see nothing since no light is hitting them ☠️

[nocturne gull]

Oh yeah

Makes sense

[pliant thorn]

Sub relativistic

[molten pebble]

That’s the highest I’ll allow them tbh

[pliant thorn]

Do you think any demon slayer character can out speed speed o sonic

[molten pebble]

How fast is he again

[surreal snow]

like mach 5 apparently

[pliant thorn]

Massively hypersonic+

[nocturne gull]

Jotaro prime vs muzan

[molten pebble]

Oh

[nocturne gull]

🤴

[pliant thorn]

And sub relativistic if he is using 10 shadows burial

[molten pebble]

Base Mitsuri can casually move at MHS+

[pliant thorn]

Muzan is winning

[molten pebble]

Mmm then no

[nocturne gull]

Actually ye caise he cant really damsge him

Only way the fight is possible if the sun rises in an hour

[molten pebble]

🥰

[pliant thorn]

I don't think jotaro will last that long

[nocturne gull]

then muzan stsnds no chance

Jotaros reaction time is mftl

[pliant thorn]

Because of his stand

[nocturne gull]

And punching speed too

Ofc you will take his stand lol

[pliant thorn]

His punching speed is like hypersonic

[nocturne gull]

And his strength is way too much

[molten pebble]

Muzan is infallible therefore he is omniscient therefore he is omnipotent therefore is outversal

So Muzan solos

[nocturne gull]

Jotaro punches double light speed lol

[molten pebble]

Prove

That

[nocturne gull]

Realest

[pliant thorn]

Not exactly

[nocturne gull]

Wait

[pliant thorn]

The punches are very fast like its hypersonic+

[nocturne gull]

See so silver chariot

[pliant thorn]

Silver chariot with no armor

[molten pebble]

Let’s debate JJK vs MHA

[nocturne gull]

Can deflect sun rays and silver chariot with anubis buff is defeatqd by sp

Sp is said to br faster then sc

[molten pebble]

Star and Stripes>99% of the verse except Gojo because hax

[pliant thorn]

Both abilities are crazy but I'm gonna say mha is taking the lead

[molten pebble]

Actually nvm

Star and stripes wins

[nocturne gull]

And sc defeated hanged man who moves at speed of ligjt

[molten pebble]

Touches Gojo’s infinity and makes it not exist

[nocturne gull]

Muzan stands 0 chance

[molten pebble]

Then rapes him

[nocturne gull]

Wow

That took a turn

[molten pebble]

In a fight

Obviously

[nocturne gull]

Also sps strength is insane

[pliant thorn]

Yeah I would find that hard to believe

[nocturne gull]

And even the handbook states that sp moves at speed of light

Written by author

So

🥰

Let me get the panel

[molten pebble]

Too bad these are way big victims

Actually no

Gwen Tennyson victims

[pliant thorn]

Who's gwen

[nocturne gull]

Dude

Gwen

From ben 10

[pliant thorn]

Oh her

The one with powers

[nocturne gull]

Also you can scale sp from crazy diamond

[pliant thorn]

Crazy diamond is mftl

[nocturne gull]

The ghost guy from ben 10 was cool

And sp is faster then cd

[pliant thorn]

Bro is blocking bullets and explosives for a good 40 seconds

[nocturne gull]

He stopped a kq explosion point bloock

Blank*

And saved hayato

Anyways sp over heaven negs

🥰

[pliant thorn]

He's non canon

[molten pebble]

Ghost freak or Z’scar

[nocturne gull]

Ghost freak

[nocturne gull]

Just saying

[pliant thorn]

Ger over heaven?

Shit soft & wet over heaven

Wonder of u over heaven

Tusk act 4 over heaven

Killer queen over heaven

The requiem one

[nocturne gull]

What the fuck are those

💀

Atleast sp over heaven is in a game

Wrf is ger over heaven 😭

[pliant thorn]

I thought you was a jojo fan

[pliant thorn]

Golden experience requiem over heaven

[upbeat ravine]

you guys ain't seen za hando requiem? Bro controls space

[whole field]

Ger vs Mha and JJK

[molten pebble]

Gets one shotted by Star and Stripes

He has horrible AP

Star and Stripes one shots she can tank anything he does and Gojo has Infinity too

[whole field]

Sure star stripes does but Ger can counter gojos infinity I'm pretty sure

[molten pebble]

You can only counter Gojo’s infinity if you quite literally have infinite speed or some hax

Like Intangibility

Cuz only objects that have mass are affected

Or have a massive DC and just blow up everything around him and making him fall to his death

Or psychic abilites

[whole field]

Hm true

Emporio solos jjba verse+mha+jjk

[pliant thorn]

Explain how so

[molten pebble]

Who is Emporio

Why r u mentioning all these fodders

Deku can legit be scaled to Moon level☠️

[pliant thorn]

He doesn't even scale to a continent level

[pliant thorn]

Emporio is the guy who defeated pucci

The mih one

[molten pebble]

He can be scaled to country level

like bare minimum

VSBW has a hatred to MHA and Demon slayer it’s not even funny

[pliant thorn]

Yeah but his powers are carrying

[molten pebble]

Star and Stripes explosion was blatantly at least a country level feat and they lowballed her to large island level 💀💀💀

[pliant thorn]

Brb

[whole field]

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-enrico-pucci-stone-ocean-emporio-gif-27201686

This is Emporio

[molten pebble]

Looks like a fraud

[whole field]

I don't need to he just solos

[molten pebble]

Probably a ditto victim

[whole field]

Weather report was the one who technically beat pucci

[whole field]

Nah

He solos mha and jjk verse

And even goku

[molten pebble]

Uh Ben solos those fodder verses too without alien x

[whole field]

Oh yeah? Well Emporio solos Ben 10

I might even argue that Emporio beats every anime verse

[molten pebble]

Lame

I solo

[whole field]

Nuh uh I do

[fair leaf]

You really think he did that in 2 months

50 demons

If he did that makes it even better for his feats yk

It's way harder

[fair leaf]

If he beat 50 demons in 2 months that supports his feat even more

[whole field]

It's very much possible

[whole field]

Lol all it proves is that he was able to encounter a lot of demons

Muichiro base form is weak in terms of all the pillars

[pliant thorn]

Pucci would have won if he was smart enough

[pliant thorn]

Btw this statement is not real

Stand power can't defeat a god

[west topaz]

He’s still above Tengen

[fair leaf]

No he wouldn't have, and if he had nearly 0 rest days that's impressive as hell

By what we've seen with Tanjiro, Muichiro would have been encountering crazy powerful demons

And you have to be a kinoe to be promoted to hashira

So the fact that Muichiro wouldn't have even gotten scraped is crazy

And we think Tanjiro has good genetics

[fair leaf]

Base Muichiro dogs on base Tengen

[molten pebble]

Tengen has been one shotting demons since day 1😭

[fair leaf]

Dawg how do you know that

He even said he isn't naturally talented, before he was a hashira he probably did worse than Muichiro

If he's stronger than Tengen now what do you expect back then

Just because Tengens animation was cool and Muichiros is laid back and calm doesn't mean he's weak, probably just biased on your end

[nocturne gull]

Those are just random ass bullshit things a fan made

Atleast sp over heaven has a game bro

I am sure there exists a 20 tails naruto momoshiki fued

Fused*

😭

Bro said i thought you were a jjba fan

Weather report solos deku so hard

It would be funny lmao

[molten pebble]

It’s stated anyone hit by his sword has met survived

[ornate galleon]

So many blocked messages

[ornate galleon]

Gyutaro

Can u tag the person's who's blocked messages I keep seeing

[molten pebble]

Only Gyuatro cuz of his Dura

[ornate galleon]

And tengen being straight shit

[molten pebble]

Js unblock him???

[ornate galleon]

It won't let me

[molten pebble]

Real

[ornate galleon]

Just tag him so I can go on his profile and unblock

[molten pebble]

@fair leaf

[ornate galleon]

Ew his pfp is so fucking ugly

[molten pebble]

😭😭😭

[ornate galleon]

Mine is beautiful

Nightwings ass cheeks

[molten pebble]

I’m making Eggs and Bacon🥰

[molten pebble]

Gay

[ornate galleon]

Wana debate ds hax ranked

[molten pebble]

Ok

Wdym like slayer hax or bad

[ornate galleon]

Let's just do bdas first

[molten pebble]

Bda

Ok

[ornate galleon]

Every bda automatically is above any breathing style

[molten pebble]

Douma’s hax number 1

[ornate galleon]

Apart form nezukos bursting blood

[ornate galleon]

I'd do gyokko 1

[molten pebble]

Douma’s Hax then gyokko

[ornate galleon]

The thing with gyokko is he has insane hax but only in base form

[molten pebble]

Kokushibo 3rd then Akaza then Hantengu

[ornate galleon]

Because if he sheds then he trades all of his hax for higher speed strength durability and god hand ability to one tap everything

1. Fish
2. Ice
3. Emotion manifestation
4. Shockwave
5. Sickles
6. Moon breathing
7. Dark thunder
8. Infinity castle
9. Dream
10. Obi sash
11. String
12. Arrow
13. Swamp
14. Temari

That's my bda list

Biokenesis is hella mid

And a fully mastered dark thunder I would say is above sickles

@molten pebble

[molten pebble]

I wanna say Moon breathing should be above shockwave but it’s just moon slashes

[pliant thorn]

I agree with your statement

Awaken fish bda can one shot anyone

[ornate galleon]

Yea

And even without the one tap ability it's literally just a 10x more op version of sickles

[pliant thorn]

Also why is moon breathing in 6th place

[ornate galleon]

The list is based on solely abilities

Pros and cons

Moon breathing has nothing apart from attack

But the large AOE mixed with the fact it has 360 range is what makes it OP

[molten pebble]

And fast

[pliant thorn]

Unless your talking about the LS version

[molten pebble]

My pillar list(No Muzan feats🥰)

1. Gyomei
2. Sanemi
3. Muichiro
4. Shinobu
5. Rengoku
6. Giyuu
7. Iguro
8. Mitsuri
9. Tengen

[pliant thorn]

But muichiro and rengoku has no muzan feast though

[molten pebble]

With Muzan feats🥰

1. Gyomei
2. Sanemi
3. Iguro
4. Giyuu
5. Muichiro
6. Shinobu
7. Mitsuri
8. Rengoku
9. Tengen

[molten pebble]

It’s a list that doesn’t use Muzan feats

If u don’t think they are valid

[pliant thorn]

But they never had any

[molten pebble]

Yea so the pillars who are scaled higher with Muzan gets slammed by them

Rengoku>Marked Giyuu🥰

Cuz he performed better than that fraud

[pliant thorn]

Tanjiro could have helped

[nocturne gull]

Still wondering how did rengoku not get his mark

[pliant thorn]

My Hashira list (in speed)

Shinobu
Muichiro
Tengen
Giyu
Sanemi
Obanai
Gyomei
Rengoku
Mitsuri

@molten pebble am I correct

Or no

@ornate galleon

[nocturne gull]

Mitsuri is hypersonic dude

How is she at last

💀

[pliant thorn]

Does It take 4 episodes to get to tanjiro

[pliant thorn]

Everyone here is massively hypersonic

She is slightly slower than giyu obanai and sanemi

[fair leaf]

W list

Marry me pls

[fair leaf]

Where

[molten pebble]

Somewhere in Entertainment District

[molten pebble]

No Tengen should be dead last

[fair leaf]

Dawg place a timestamp

[molten pebble]

Gyomei should be number 1

Sanemi second and Shinobu 3rd

[fair leaf]

Yeah I think that's fair

[pliant thorn]

It's in speed

[fair leaf]

Wait was shinobu not confirmed to have the highest attack speed

Oh wait those confirmations were without mark

Nvm

And shinobu never got it

Cuz of

A certain blondie

[pliant thorn]

Its cause of the temperature

[fair leaf]

Oh

Wait

Oh shit

If Doumas ice BDA is actually low in temp that could make Shinobu JUST not make it to the mark requirements

Jeez

[pliant thorn]

Yeah 1 of them

[fair leaf]

Darn

Muichiro dogs on Tengen btw

He wouldn't even get to MST

[pliant thorn]

Your pfp looks ugly as fuck

[fair leaf]

This is a tiktok message @𖣘࿋𝓼𝓱𝓲𝔃𝓷𝓾𝓽𝔃࿋𖣘:i love u now let me breeed u

[pliant thorn]

Is he here

[fair leaf]

Hey

Why

Don't bully him

Lil bro

He has like 5 extra chromosomes

@pliant thorn look at the previews

[pliant thorn]

I did

Gold Rodger divine departure can solo demon slayer

Cause it waves a conquerors haki at them

[fair leaf]

Okay

Idrk but sure

[molten pebble]

Is it travel speed

[nocturne gull]

Shes still faster than rengoku

[nocturne gull]

I hope not

Also do you take episode pace as speed feats then stop scaling

💀

[pliant thorn]

No

I'm just saying

[pliant thorn]

Combat speed

[molten pebble]

Then Gyomei should be top

And Mitsuri should be higher than Tengen

[whole field]

💀

You definitely thought I was being serious at first

[molten pebble]

Hi daddy

[whole field]

Not today

[pliant thorn]

@nocturne gull the fist that surpassed time out matches a stand fist barrage

[nocturne gull]

What fist are you talking about

[pliant thorn]

Zues fist

[pliant thorn]

One arm barrage is somewhat as fast as sc with no armor

[ornate galleon]

Gyomei
Sanemi
Muichiro
Shinobu
Obanai
Giyuu
Mitsuri
Rengoku
Tengen

[ornate galleon]

Jjk fans are so out of touch

They think toji negs the verse with no dif

(ds verse)

Make tengens cleavers imbued with cursed energy and he negs the verse mid dif

• take away gojos infinity

[nocturne gull]

How tho

💀

[nocturne gull]

Record of ragnarok?

[ornate galleon]

Because the jjk verse doesn't get soloed solely cuz of gojos infinity

Without it the verse is complete fodder

[nocturne gull]

Ye

Right

[ornate galleon]

Tengen perception blitzes the verse

[nocturne gull]

Well jogo cant really percept him

Also mih vs gojo

Mih wins

Cause infinte speed

🥰

Mih is jst him

[pliant thorn]

What is this

[pliant thorn]

Yes

[ornate galleon]

Speed list

[pliant thorn]

Average Human, at most  FTL, likely  higher  reactions  normally, Varies via Time Acceleration (Can easily blitz  Jolyne, Jotaro, Anasui, and Ermes all at once and continuously  increases his speed), eventually  Infinite (It will eventually accelerate time into infinity  and  his speed stat is listed as Infinite to reflect that)

[nocturne gull]

Tru

I know

Give him time and he is pretty much unbeatable

[west topaz]

L Giyu should be first

Giyu above Gyomei above sanemi above Mui above Shinobu

[nocturne gull]

Giyu multiversal+

[muted arrow]

Gyomei, Sanemi, Giyuu, Obanai, Mui, Mitsuri, Rengoku, Shinobu and Tengen

that's the list.

[tame rampart]

Swear this is like a never ending demon slayer debate

[polar root]

I promise that the ending always stay the same

[swift ocean]

Just them saying the exact same things

But they still be going

Over some mid stuff

[silver sonnet]

who's mih

eh

made in heaven?

if you guys wanna settle this is pretty easy

this is a speed graph between the two

you basically have unstoppable force vs immovable object

theres really no use

it just evens out really, so it really depends on their other skills

[silver sonnet]

^

[molten pebble]

Why is rengoku above Shinobu

[molten pebble]

Nobody in demon slayer has the AP to damage them except Gyokko and Douma and people with Dura Neg hax

[ornate galleon]

What's their durability level?

[molten pebble]

Why do you take Giyuu’s Muzan feats seriously

[ornate galleon]

Cuz marked muichiro no stw has city level AP feats with minimum difficulty

[molten pebble]

Large Mountain bare minimum 💀

Debatably country level if you wanna use Yuki’s Black hole feat

[ornate galleon]

So everyone who can kill gyokko has enough durability

AP not durability

[molten pebble]

How does Gyokko have Large Mountain dura

[west topaz]

They are good

[molten pebble]

Ur literally a Hakim Victim

Smh

[west topaz]

Bro get past base Nate

[molten pebble]

Ur a Lionis victim

[west topaz]

Unprovable

[fair leaf]

Murata solos Giyuu bro

[pliant thorn]

Where was he the entire time in the show

[fair leaf]

Since Giyuu is 6 feet below and Murata isn't technically he would win

[ornate galleon]

Neck harder than diamonds

U need a city amount of pressure to be able to cut clean through diamonds with no difficulty

[molten pebble]

That’s not that good of a feat you can break a diamond with a hammer

[ornate galleon]

6.1gigatons or something idk I forgor the measurement

[ornate galleon]

A real diamond?

[molten pebble]

You can break a diamond with a hammer

[ornate galleon]

No

[molten pebble]

Yes

[nocturne gull]

That is why mih wins

How will gojo even react to mih lol

Couldnt even react to sukuna

And became chopped one

Even the admins agree that this channel is the worst in the server 😭

True tho that they repeat every thing again and again

[silver sonnet]

infinity is constantly active doe

theres no need to react

its p much a stalemate

LOL

[nocturne gull]

I mean its just a theory at that i suppose cause mih moves a infinitely fast

It can never be proved so

Yea a stalemate

[silver sonnet]

but the closer you get to Gojo the more your speed is divided

so its not subtraction

therefore stalemate

Gojo also pretty much uses Blue to make himself move faster too

[silver sonnet]

and idk if six eyes reacts to that or its just cursed energy

lol

prob not

[nocturne gull]

Six eyes only reacts to cursed energy

[silver sonnet]

its not sharingan