#🤬│debate
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Uh he meant to say willpower in op and Naruto are used to do different things . Though I didn't read the whole arguement
Both are mid
Batman better
They can be used to different things but the root source of each is willpower
If haki was required the show would have simply stated haki
We were shown a character WITHOUT HAKI withstanding haki with purely willpower
No reason why anyone else couldnt do the same
Uh I Searched and it said it needs haki
ThatGuy#2306 You’ve Reached Level 1
I'm not into scaling too
Mathematical complicated things I don't understand shit from
Like type 4 multiverse
This guy withstood it without haki.
Wherever you looked was kinda jus wrong
Good for you ig
Fr
Banned*
*banned
Tyler's rage couldn't put up a fight against this guys
He couldnt beat the unbriddled silly in me
I mean if he somehow bypassed the filter he'd still get banned by a admin or smth
Ahh well comparing 2 verses are gay
But uh naruto hasn't shown any feat of haki or smth did he ?
Im just gonna start telling everyone im gay for political power
HOL ON WAIT A MINUTE
IN SAGE MODE HE TECHNICALLY SHOWED BOOTLEG RYUO
Naruto solo one piece verse
(Hes a bit spec ed
Armament haki is a visual actually
Which naruto
Full power
In verse it isnt btw
Baryon
Nah not a form .
Since they have ryou
Baryon isnt beating op verse
He cant use any main techniques in baryon
Meaning sugar with the portal fruit negs
Btw how can they even beat logia users
Cellular deconstruction dosent require haki.
Bro negged isshiki that's quite enough evidence
Also luffy technically has access to water style
Yeah, because of circumstances
Its actual strength isnt anything special
EXACTLY
???
Shut up gay
Luffy is no where REMOTELY CLOSE to outer
This kinds of arguements are kinda boring
We can barely get him on planetary rn
I wouldn't be mad even if I lost lol
No no
Not yours bae
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Its jump force luffy
Its mostly because the op world is like substanially bigger than ours
Idk shit about jump force but
Naruto luffy and goku in jump force are all outer
I dont care enough about luffy to debate that
Can't put cartoon characters against anime to overpowered
Now if you said yhwach on the other hand then we got issues
Batman solos both anyway
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Aizen diffs the op verse with his eyes closed icl
Stick to ds debates
Nah yhwach
Hop on bleach fr fr
I'll kms if you win
Nah do aot vs ds
Demons kinda just outlast the rumbling and everyone else dosent matter
Collosal nuke could one shit the verse tho
Speed>
Wdym everyone else
They aint out speeding the nuke when armin has odm gear
Armin don't know where to nuke cus he can't even see them ☠️
Not giyuu
Ah man at this point you're downballing him
Akaza adapted quickly to marked giyuu
Stop the akaza downplay
Only gyomei beats him
All the other hashira don't have selfless state
Sanemi wins then
You dont need to know where to drop a nuke
You just nuke

What does ica and sca stand for
Ofc because he's the second strongest slayer in existence + and is upm 1
No way you are downplaying upm 1
Don't tell me you're gonna say giyuu reacting to a developing dkt
Demon slayer speed is mad stupid icl
How you getting blitzed by akaza and then go fight muzan
I said without regeneration
But still
Shhhh
Ah for example dude
Rengoku cut akazas body for 69th time
If dude didn't have regeneration
Renkaza would be born
(Makes no sense btw
I'm saying akaza adapted to his mark and got blitzed
This is why muichiro is stronger than giyuu
Didnt muichiro get neg diffed before sanemi gyomei and genya pulled up
Ok but atleast sanemi roofied him a bit
Sanemi build diff
Get sabito to react to rui
Didnt you say sabito was stronger than giyuu in the other channel tho
It's lower moon 5
"sabito fp > hashiras" 🤓
No I said if sabito was still alive he would be
Potential*
Bro sabito died to a final selection demon, yall wankin him to the max icl
What sword goes dull after less than like 20 cuts
Wtf
He gotta fight that swordsmith
There was 30 demons I think
The requirement for hashira is 50
At his level it's difficult to cut that many hard necks
There’s literally no way fs has 30
They just misunderstood what muzan said
Youre forgetting that demon slayer fans havent read demon slayer
Jus like dbz fans fr fr
It doesn't really say how many but I'm assuming there's 15
Yeah 15 seems about right
I read the demonfall wiki by accident
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And it said 30
Also how does bro have potential when he aint even have total concentration constant
L mans fr fr
He probably would of mastered it
Tengen after fighting gyutaro solo⚰️
Plot is one hell of a drug icl
He literally did better with more disabilities
Thats not how fighting works
Demon slayer ig
He prolly was💀
Daki prolly jus accidently gave him aids before the fight
You heard what i said
They're siblings
Muichiro?
She kind of did get in the way for some parts
Idk about amp, but that immortality shit is crazy
Inosuke clears
My favourite claim to make, i love demon slayer inconsistencies
Muzan 4th drug fighting 7 other hashiras
(This manga is so inconsistent LOL)
Still blitzed
Also inosuke still being able to one shot muzan tentacles
So inosuke>zenitsu?
I mean yeah we established that a while ago
Ok but Zenitsu slower than inosuke meaning that hes lost p much the only things he got
Blehh
Well yeah it's thunder breathing
Inosuke>
Hell no
Ong
Also in the fight vs muzan, inosuke was substantially more wounded than zenitsu
I mean, thats not completely true
You dont have to be blocking for a sword to break
With that logic she scales in reaction speed to top 3 hashira
I mean, kinda
Youre forgetting that this shows scaling sucks
People misunderstood the douma fight alot
Doma (post 56kg roofie):🦦
Should have been an inosuke solo fight ngl
Inosuke is very underrated aswell
Fr
Bro can shift Internal organs like sanemi and is immune to poison
Wait
If he shifted his heart before gyutaro stabbed it doesn't that mean he has higher reaction speed
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Spacial awareness negs
@vestal sable new inosuke feats👼
Yeah I meant that too
(Tanjiro is a liar)
Also better endurance and durability
Seriously how tf do you even inherit memories
Tanjiro tell the truth all the time
if man eating demons with abilities are possible then that's possible too
No it aint
Douma said that inosuke was so fast he disappeared
Wait did inosuke have frozen lungs while fighting muzan tho
That would be hilarious
Would his boar mask even let that happen
How does he even breath through that
Wait
He didn't even have his mask cus douma stole it
(Doma is a liar)
Luffy is omniversal
Throw it back
Blackbeard victim
Ok but then doma got diffed by sudden throwing strikes so who really took the W
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FR
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HOLD ON A SECOND
Nami solos naruto verse no diff
IF KANAO COULDNT CUT DOMAS HEAD OFF WITHOUT SUDDEN THROWING STRIKES
THEN COULDNT INOSUKE HAVE CUT OFF AKAZAS HEAD WITHOUT GIVING HIM A GOOD FIGHT
SO HE DIDNT SELF REZ
inosuke cookin
What are you guys talking about
That did not help
Douma neg gyomei extreme diff
That made 0 sense
Elaborate
Gyomei wins extreme diff*
Gyumei is the most over estimated but yet under estimated character in demon slayer
Akaza gets destroys cage boy
I have my reasons
?
I meant akaza gets destroyed
Srry bro it's 3am
I cant
HUH
...
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Bro is losing it
He's like me fr
Bread can't recover from that one 🤣
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Wdym
You are traumatised
Can you
Soops
Yes, but we know hes immune to the sun, and red blades, making nichirins useless. We also know, Muzan has instant regeneration, and a very powerful blood art. Therefore, DKT Has muzans BDA, Regen, IQ, Speed, Strength, and Tanjiros Sun breathing. We can also say that tanjiro is a fast and powerful character, and his strength speed and other stuff all get buffs+ muzans entire arsenal
Ok
Ye
Yorrichis swordsman ship and speed are useless if he has instant regen
But dkt tanjiro is a mindless child💀
Are you talking about this?
The yorrichi cutting 1500/1800 pieces?
Because he didn't expect it
Hm, but again, tanjiros immune to the literal sun, so that makes him immune to any and all red blades
CrimsonSecret#7309 You’ve Reached Level 1
Tanjiro was also a demon that was just reborn, mindless and unable to think straight. A beast. He was at a very liw point in power, and was even weaker because tanjiro was fighting it
But thats because of the sun, yes?
Im sayibg when DKT is at the peak
I didnt think about FP
Also the cell thing
I agrued against that
Not a single man made object can cut cells
He cut DOWN to the cellular level, but jot the cells
He cant, something thats made of cells would onky bump against the other cells
Where is the thing that says he can xut cells
Ive been looking
It would kake things interesting
Im not sure what you mean
He scarred muzan yes, but thats mentally
He made muzan severly afraid
Where?
OHHH
I SEE
he burned the cells?
Thats crazy
But thats the thing
He BURNED the cells
Thats with his red blade
If DKT is immune ti the red blade, he cant be burned
True, but if the cells are able to regen instantly, his attack is rendered useless
And yorrichis. The reason i say this is rhe red blade is strong because of its relation to the sun
Im pretty sure the show said it was sum but ill look it up
Sun
I love debating because it helps me learn new things about characters
Also
It represents flame/intensity
The passion of a person soul
Hence why rengokus blade was red and sanemis despite not being descendants
CrimsonSecret#7309 You’ve Reached Level 2
Crimson guy is gonna be soon scarred for life
I still think that tanjiro at peak could make yorrichi struggle, maybe even lose
Hm
Nah bro yorichhi is HIM
Pretty much lol
Mitsuri is stronger then shinobu?
Why did shinobu never get a mark?
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Marked shinobu would be crazy
Probably on giyu level
Or higher
Ye so head cutting shinobu??
Kartik_#0393 You’ve Reached Level 9
shitty ranking
-Sanemi > Giyu and Obanai
-Zenitsu > Kanao
-Mitsuri should be 9th
-Rengoku >> Shinobu
Bro said rengoku is stronger then shinobu
Wtf 😭
Bro was donutted by playful akaza
And shinobu blitzed doma
And bro is underestimating mitsuri so much
Still i can understsnd that but rengoku>shinobu is crazy
Shinobu is the fastest hashira 💀
rengoku still solos
You so dumb for that
Ong bro
Name one feat which will rank rengoku higher then shinobu
Tho its obvious rengoku stands no chance and is getting blitzed so fast
Like the zig zag technique and bro is 100% done for
She aint that weak dawg 😭
He fought playful akaza for a significant amount of time
Shinobu was almost down & out after one slash 😭
She literally blitzed him so bad that he was knocked out
Like read the panel
Like ong how are you even thinkinf rengoku>shinobh
One zig zag and rengoku is dons there is no feat supportinf that rengoku can win
And the fight lasted so long because waa trying to convince rengoku
Thats all
9th form >>>>>> "zig zag" technique
Sure bro a technique so fast that doma couldnt react to it
Bruh Rengoku>>>shinoew
Doma didnt even see Shinobu as a threat 😭
More or less struggle with her 💀
Shinobu is a Gyutaro victim 🤣
Let me.get the panels
He kinda just toyed with her tbh
Wait i cant even
Thats why i think Doma wouldve won that fight
Let me dm you them
if he was more serious
He would’ve won if he didn’t eat Shinobu
Exactly
If he wasnt playing too much he wouldve noticed the wisteria poison in Shinobu
What’s up with this server and rengoku vs Shinobu
idk
they not wrong ngl
I don’t care about who wins I just wish rengoku didn’t die
Idk why its even a debate that you think rengoku wins
Or someone else used flame breathing
which fight do you think he wouldve joined in the infinity castle?
it's simple Rengoku lost cause he had no help
He would probably get to fight akaza again
I mean ofc
Few hashiras can defeat upper moons alone
Giyu and Rengoku duo would be sick
no hashira can solo a Uppermoon exepct Daki
And because akaza moved his sword from hitting his neck in 9th form
No
Daki lower moon level also many hashira can
like bruh
even Akaza > Gyomei
Upper moon 3-1
Like wind gyomie giyu muichir
no
I dont thinka any hashira can solo the upper moon 3
name one hashira that soloed a uppermoon
which uppermoon?
Do you really think the stone pillar would struggle fighting daki and her brother
some what yes
BRO WHAT
He fought upper moon 1
No way you said some what yes
with help
Gyomei solos Gyutaro alone
It shouldnt even be a debate
He is obilierating upped moon 6 upper moon 5 ,4
No way yoi even said he needs help
Upper moon 1 still out scales ever other demon other than muzan by so much
Not even a debate
ok
SoundGodgod#8805 You’ve Reached Level 1
You prob havent read the manga
I dont think Shinbo can really contend against any upper moon
Daki cant be counted 💀
You really should debate with sunflower guy
Daki only got uppermoon cause her brother
If he was online..
The only way I could see the wind pillar losing to daki and her brother is if he tries to make Gyutaro hit him because of his blood
But even then
He would kill them after
He may die later on
Sanemi one-shots imo
Exactly
Depends on if he’s taking tengens place or not
But suppose he is cut
Do you guys remember when demons necks were harder to cut
Nowadays they cut through them like butter
Full potential dkt would have been cool to see
Full potential rengoku would be the 4th strongest
That’s how I feel about it
5th imo
5th to 4th
Also why did the creator of demon slayer say the effect weren’t real
Causs if they were it wpuld be weird
Rengoku blocked akaza air type with fire
Just for show
Cause they are humans
Just the way they move
Imitates an element
They cant just generate elements
Ye
It wouldn’t be weird if the creator wasn’t contradicting themself so much
One slash
i mean
Stone breathing doesnt really have any effects
One late slash and it blocked everything
its just axe and flail
the basic explanation is-
The way they fight imitates a certain element
The white thingy for beast
Yeah it's just gyomei throwing his balls and axe around
Balls of iron
like zenitsu moving at such high speeds
his balls??
Tanjiro killing the arrow demon with water
Yeah the spikey ball
It would’ve made more sense to put the arrows on the sword
Not the water
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I’ve been wondering what base means
Oh
Basically muichiro's base is start of season 3
But I still see people using it with demons like Doma
hardcore debaters hurt my head with some of these words
Gotta pull up my 4d 5d cards
If i were to rank the slayers at Full potential (my opinion)-
- Tanjiro
- Muichiro
- Gyomei
- Sanemi
- Rengoku
- Giyu
- Zenitsu
- Inosuke
- Obanai
- Kanao
- Mitsuri
- Tengen
- Shinobu
Tanjiro and Muichiro are debatable
Tanjiro doesn’t count since he’s the mc
Then muichiro
Why is muchiro on the 2nd
read manga
Shwef#1312 You’ve Reached Level 6
he has the most potential
I searched up and it said gyomei
Hell no
hello
man said 15 seconds 💀
marked tanjiro + marked giyu > gyomei
akaza > marked tanjiro + marked giyu
therefore
akaza > gyomei
bro he is the strongest hashira
im not saying he can defeat him
but he can hold him till dawn
nah marked gyomei definitely has
he had so much stamina that he fought Kokushibo + Muzan
Farhu#8243 You’ve Reached Level 1
u read the manga?
I would say gyomei has the most potential due to him mastering the hardest and strongest breathing (from the sun copies) BUT muichiro is like a decent of kokushibo
[This is a hot take.]
I think, in full honesty, kokushibou is stronger then muzan.
not in this game
But in the anime itself
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I have good points
Tell
Alright
Muzan may be able to attack people all at one
but kokushibou
can one shot
everyone
around him
easily
The hashira hardly won
in the end
He regenerated his head
legit became immortal
but chose to die
Muzan
acts as human
so he can be caught in the sun
um1?
hardly in public
so him dying to sun is nearly imposible
killing muzan might be harder
but not getting killed by um1
is harder then killing muzan
in otherwords
he might be weaker in defense
but he is stronger
Don't you think it was easier for kokushibo because he was in the infinity castle
Exactly
he refuses to fight in the open
So killing him with the sun is out of the question
and he kills you way faster
than you can even land a shot
he also has infinite stamina
and rigged regeneration
+, he can use those moon crescents to cut you into bits easily
So you're saying kokushibo would win in a 1v1 against muzan
Not my point
its not a fair fight
kokushiobu has so much muzan blood
muzan can one shot ANY demon
no matter their level
but um1
still
is deadlier in combat
cutting his head off will only let him regen
he chose to looose
if he chose to win
the infinity castle raid was over
demons win
Oh yes because he was a very strong slayer
I agree that if kokushibo stayed alive, demons would've won
mhm
he could have won had he not chosen death
Not only is this a hot take it's just straight up wrong like what
@white sentinel
Yes, you clearly didn't 😂
i said
he COULD
He CHOSE defeat as the pillars killed him, as he could regen his head
If you really think Kokushibo is stronger than Muzan then you have to re-read the manga
And he will not go out, so sun is away
Based
Yk why
sure
muzan can one shot kokushibou
CAUSE MUZAN IS THE DEMON KING
@vestal sable I JUST THOUGHT OF SUM
and what is koku?
Yes he can
A demon
So in a 1v1
the fight wont work fairly
so i resulted to killing and skills
Both can regen heads
BUT MUZAN
poses as a human
Yorrichi can burn at a cellular level, but because yorrichis blade cant affect the healing process, tanjiro has the ability to heal
Yoriichi is a human
Muzan can just destroy Kokushibos cells without fighting him lol
so sun is out of the question
Oh ok
Even then in a one on one Muzan wins
Every uppermoon can regen their head
daki/gyutaro didnt
Ok how about IF muzan and kokushibo fought in the infinity castle
I don't think he actually chose to though 💀
He did
It seemed like he was trying not to turn to ashes when he started dying
True, but muzan legit stated if daku wasnt their, uzui tanjiro zenitsu and inosuke would have lost
with one shot
Are you meaning biased?
Based means agree
What you arguing about?
thats them
not these 2
My time has come
I'm saying not in one on one, but in skills, UM1 is stronger then muzan
If he did that then the fight between koku gyomei sanemi genya and muichiro would've been over in no time
Cause they cant 1v1 fair, muzan can just one tap ANY demon
Hmm. Well thats true
simply cause their demon
But hear me out
I don’t look at this channel for like 4 minutes and there’s over 2’000 messages
Muzan is not to far off, as he was able to fight off all the hashiras
Heheheha
Whilst being very weakened yes
Koku is more skilled, but muzans ap is much better
Muzan kills all the upper moons needs no debate
Bro let him talk
There’s no need for a debate
I'm just interested
So can Muzan
Nah
Tanjiro doesn’t count he’s the Mc
Well, Agreed. but muzan is posing as human alot. So sometimes, like an idiot, he can just get hit by the sun.
Not tanjiro
UM1 is never outside.
Why do you think he is such a sweat.
Bro does not touch grass.
?????
Anyways.
No that's not true lol
He always was out at nighttime
They literally amped each other
Did u watch the anime
You havent watched the anime lmao
Yall heard myzan say gyutaro would have won righy?
are u guys not reading what i'm saying
I think this guy is joking
IN SKILL
Where did koko>muzan come from💀
Still not true
Yea i agree
OK IF YOURE SAYING SKILL THEN DONT SAY KOKU IS 'stronger'
Honestly in combat skill
Koku>Muzan skill, but Muzan>Koku in AP
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muzan does more damage
NOW your buggin
the others can win
I've read the manga and watched some of the anime sadly but people like you misunderstood what Muzan meant
Bro is joking around now
the clones have good intelligence
and fight good
thats my point
Muzan is just op
No upper moon can beat muzan not even all the upper moon together
UM1 fights better
How was Daki at all a disadvantage to Gyutaro in the fight?
BRO LISTEN TO WHAT I AM SAYING
No, i think i understood. Muzan is very clear when he states, without daki, he would have won
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NOT ONE ON ONE
Not urogi and karaku☠️
Ok bro so why are you saying they beat myzan
IN COMBAT SKILL, NOT RAW DAMAGE
Nope you didn't understand lol
How does daki put Gyutaro at a disadvantage without stating what Muzan said
STRONGER REFERS TO WHO IS BETTER IN COMBAT
You have some problem with wording things
You said hantengu beats muzan
Istg
Gyutaro should’ve just hidden daki somewhere
IN COMBAT SKILL
LISTEN TO MY WORDS
IN COMBAT
THEY MIGHT NOT DO AS MUCH DAMAGE
THEN ADD ON TO IT IDIOT
BUT THEY ARE MORE SKILLED
Exactly
PEOPLE WILL EASILY MISUNDERSTAND
YOUR NOT READING MY MESSAGES
Because daki needs to be beheaded for him to appear, and then gyutaro has to make sure his sister doesnt die. Hes distracted, atleast 50% of the time
Muzan just spams attacks tbh
yes but he beats koku and hantengu
But that wasn't the statement you made earlier
oml
You legit said Kokushibo was stronger than Muzan
Why do these need debates
THIS IS THE 7TH TIME I SAID THIS
I have no idea
That's not true bro?
Gyutaro came out because Daki asked for help
No more of that
I thought your shinobu arc was over
Nope
You definitely didn't watch the anime lol
@white sentinel next time word your words better
I dont see you making hot takes
WHy would he be worried about her dying when she only dies when they both get beheaded
I aint taking advice from someone who cant listen
You're just shit at wording stuff
yk what
Daki had HIS eye that HE gave to HER
No, he does
Gyutaro was inside daki🫦
Difference between hot take and just a straight up wrong take
But if he had his eye, without giving it away and having to wait for daki to activate it…
Yeah could've said that from the start
I FUCKING DID
BUT YOU CANT LISTEN
…
I'm just blocking everyone in this chat fr
I cant watch anime in school but ik that manga panel
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Imagine tanjiros dad if he didn’t get sick and became a demon slayer
Nobody gives a shit
Even when Gyutaro is forced to leave Daki's body to defend her, he still looks after her above all else.
Wdym
They literally have different powers
Yes but thats literally because she has his eye
CrimsonSecret#7309 You’ve Reached Level 3
Team combos
He would still have the amps without having to worry about daki, or waiting for the power up
No but if she died gyutaro would unlock his full power
Then why does muzan say he would have won without her💀
Wouldn’t he just stop anyone from putting her in the sun
He didn't say that
So you think Gyutaro against Tengen, Tanjiro, Zenitsu, Nezuko, and Inosuke alone would beat them?
Without daki, and being able to use his own powers, and if he wasnt so arrogant then yes
Nope
Can we talk about how bad the ranking system is in demon slayer
Uppermoon 6 is strong but not as strong as you think
Base muichiro fodder
Every other Hashira would've been able to beat him
Weakest hashira
Look at general rn💀
Tengen is meant for lowermoon demons not uppermoons clearly
My interpretation of what Muzan said is that, without Daki to take away resources from Gyutaro (like humans to be eaten), or his eye as in if he didn't prioritize her growth over his, he would've been strong enough by now to defeat the whole group on his own.
Skill issue
One punch man Vs goku
He would have won
Because he would have gotten the full blessing of all the humans eaten
You never were
And he wouldnt have to give his resources to daki
Worst scale I've ever seen
…
Daki was useful to muzan
Money is key
Nope
Yall really saying i misinterpeted what he said
Hes very clear
He legit says it
Now he may not be right but hes over 500 years old, i would think his knowledge is way better than iur own
They scale to base akaza
I wanna see a demon slayer timeline where the demons are actually able to kill people
I like how muzan could’ve kept akaza as the upper 2 and also made Doma a upper 2 but instead he made akaza the upper 3
It’s dumb since he can make all demons lower moon 1 level
Gyomeu<<<ey u14n.u.uuieach
Gyomei>marked shinobu
Surprised the shinobu meat rider agreed
When
Pls do
Muichiro isn't that strong
i mean he is 14 so what do you expect
Well he is 4th strongest
Out of hashiras?
In the entire show or out of Hashira
Shinobu >> rengoku and tengen
You should wake up
And stop being biased
Both have no way of dealing with her speed
And she has the ap to kill them in one shot to the head
Im not based lol i got the most unpopolar opinion muzan>yorichii lmao
Michael jackson on top
Only in strength and durability
Yorichii speed blitzes
Speed uhmm
Muzan has had so many years to train
Current?
Yes
Well he didn't train
after yorichii dead
It wasn't implied atleast
Yh sorta
If anything muzan didn't do anything but search for the blue spider lily
Because remember
Muzan never once trained
He lost stamina and had to kill the demon slayers in the infinity castle to regain it
That proves he didn't anything
Yh bc hes dumb asf he lost cuz of this fk flower
'-'
True
If he was smart he would have won without a problem
If muzan trained he'd easily surpass yorichii eventually

