dev-chat

[trim geode]

[modest geyser]

Ikr!

[tired obsidian]

doesn't want to brag
brags anyway

[daring wasp]

no way, my chicken in a kitchen sink is the best
-# /j

[trim geode]

inb4 join his server to test his AI mod bot amiright

[daring wasp]

the chicken is also named hornet

[tired obsidian]

I think you are, Matt

[daring wasp]

what does your application even do

[tired obsidian]

And? We build apps our way, not your way

[trim geode]

I find people who have to come in and claim their bots are the best without it standing on its own merit tend to have the worst functioning products in existence.

[tired obsidian]

Probably brags, Sora :p

[tired obsidian]

inb4 no actual bot :p

[patent carbon]

I'll have you know my bot is actively used in 1 server. No one can beat me

[trim geode]

inb4 rule #21 violation

[quiet saddle]

Lmao

[patent carbon]

Does it mow my taxes and file my lawn?

[daring wasp]

my bot isn't even in a server!

[tired obsidian]

Not gonna lie, thought you asked if it meowed at your taxes…

[quiet saddle]

files every blade of grass down to a razor fine point

[daring wasp]

MeowAtTaxes

[quiet saddle]

MowAtLawn

[modest geyser]

Im kinda like a llm you give me a prompt and some coffee and i spit out questionable code

[tired obsidian]

Same

[modest geyser]

Beck did you see the javascript crossword

[patent carbon]

I do that myself

[trim geode]

I lowkey could do a tax bot...my mom is a tax preparer....

[tired obsidian]

I saw it earlier, yeah. But didn't check it out

[trim geode]

Could actually do something

[tired obsidian]

Not a crossword fan

[viscid steppe]

what is with some new members being rude, it's happened last night too, is this just the same person

[tired obsidian]

If you have nothing to contribute please refrain from random off-topic image spam

[trim geode]

Very likely yeah

[daring wasp]

best coder

[trim geode]

ngl...gRPC with buf.build isn't too bad

[patent carbon]

Don't say that. You'll summon Risky

[quiet saddle]

yeah exactly

[trim geode]

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

[quiet saddle]

[patent carbon]

[quiet saddle]

shut

[trim geode]

[modest geyser]

I dislike bun

[trim geode]

I like bun

[quiet saddle]

I mean you dislike JavaScript as a whole lol

[modest geyser]

True

Ts is fine because the type system is funny

[quiet saddle]

and because it's my favorite right

[tired obsidian]

Apparently you're not sorry…

I asked you not to do what you just did and you said, "sorry". Then you go and do it again

It was related to the conversation

[jovial bough]

How

[stone osprey]

Hello guys I'm new here I just started my journey 😁 you can call me Luffy.

[jade current]

Peak

[jovial bough]

Luffy Fluffy

[trim geode]

I'm also not sending random images of random video games to the developer chat attempting to derail the conversation multiple times.

[lean cedar]

hi buddy

[granite yarrow]

Wow it’s work in here

[stone osprey]

😁

[tired obsidian]

@granite yarrow please test your bots elsewhere

[jovial bough]

Join my server through the tag

[stone osprey]

Ok

[jovial bough]

Can I also add my bot here?

[lyric escarp]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[tired obsidian]

<@&1050493473033289778> be sure to check #1508525591215734825 message also

[stone osprey]

Can't see your tag

[tired obsidian]

Don't join, it's probably a scam

[jovial bough]

💀

[stone osprey]

Umm

[jovial bough]

Lying

[granite yarrow]

You should ban him then

[trim geode]

MLMAOO

anddd gone

[lyric escarp]

gone

[tired obsidian]

I'm just a user here, I don't have the power

[stone osprey]

Same

[granite yarrow]

Maybe

[stone osprey]

Soo this guy just got banned?

[tired obsidian]

He broke several server rules, so yes

[quiet saddle]

let's get back on topic

[stone osprey]

Oh ok

[tired obsidian]

So, TS is great, amirite

[quiet saddle]

[stone osprey]

Yupp

[patent carbon]

You use TS? I thought you were vanilla only?

[torn loom]

how to make money

[lyric escarp]

Turns out I have to use ?vh= to specify which version it gives me

[quiet saddle]

beck has been learning!

[viscid steppe]

This isn't google.com

[jade current]

Get a j*b

[tired obsidian]

I currently am vJS only, yeah. But madeline is ~~ indoctrinating ~~ teaching me

[granite yarrow]

Get a job

[quiet saddle]

it's been going very well

[torn loom]

okay i go to google try 😭

[lyric escarp]

madeline what do you think of effect.ts

[patent carbon]

this is not even a joke... if you actually want to make money... a job is the best way...

[stone osprey]

💔

[stone osprey]

Basically yeah

[torn loom]

best way?

[quiet saddle]

sounds dangerous

[stone osprey]

I mean you can start trading?

[patent carbon]

TS is good... I think the setup process is a nightmare sometimes, especially when you start adding plugins... but once you get good at doing it, or make a template, it's fine

[granite yarrow]

Or you can go roblox pls donate

[jade current]

No lmao

[lyric escarp]

I don't mean file name I mean like.. a framework

[trim geode]

Just use bun, unironically.

bun actually makes TS experience like...really nice

[quiet saddle]

sounds like dangerous framework

[granite yarrow]

Why we only got 50boost when we have 280000members

[patent carbon]

Bun / biome... I know

[quiet saddle]

wdym? what setup?

[daring wasp]

very smol class name fr :3

[trim geode]

Bun + Biome + Rolldown (for libs) or Bun build (apps) is actually goated

[patent carbon]

ok it's mainly linters... they're my problem...

[viscid steppe]

A bunch of features? Hahahahahah

[lyric escarp]

I have actually been switching to oxc

[granite yarrow]

Ok so is 3am for me, I can’t even sleep…

[jaunty anchor]

BIMBIMBAMBAM

[daring wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-fish-spongebob-fishes-spongebob-staring-spongebob-crowd-gif-21857280

[granite yarrow]

Can someone teach me how to sleep

👀

[lyric escarp]

Keep it on topic please

[quiet saddle]

how so

[patent carbon]

are you going to send that randomly once every couple days?

[trim geode]

rolldown uses oxc under the hood

[jaunty anchor]

I'm sorry, I'm learning English, and I can't really follow the conversation.

[patent carbon]

that the standard for linters is still ESLint/Prettier... but then you have to get plugins for them to work together... oh and then you add typescript so you need plugins for that... and then you add React so you need typescript / react plugins... oh and your build tools have their own plugins... and so on

[quiet saddle]

If you have nothing of value to say, don't say anything

[patent carbon]

that's a more JavaScript ecosystem as a whole problem... not typescript... but TS can make it worse

yes I know modern tools replace this as they have better out of the box compatibility such as Bun and Biome

[trim geode]

Biome > all

[jaunty anchor]

Okay, let's lower the motorcycle a little.

It's difficult to make local jokes in English

[patent carbon]

no excuse for this... this is just spam

[tired obsidian]

Then don't make jokes. And stay on-topic, per #rules

[jaunty anchor]

sorry

I sincerely apologize

[lyric escarp]

Biome insults me every characters 🥀

[modest geyser]

What if i make coffee but use coffee instead of water for the coffee

[trim geode]

then just write better characters

[modest geyser]

Coffee^2

[quiet saddle]

[jaunty anchor]

Does anyone know how I can create a save game in Godot?

[lyric escarp]

And I'm starting to miss biome cause oxc had been so kind to me lmao

[tired obsidian]

<@&1050493473033289778> dude's name is…bad on so many levels

[lyric escarp]

Biome did not leave a single room for bug at all

especially react

[quiet saddle]

it's the other way around. every line of your code insulted Biome

[lyric escarp]

but it's been bad for svelte, because the parser is terrible

[jaunty anchor]

What's wrong with my name?

[trim geode]

Oh yeah, no Biome is lagging behind on front end frameworks

[lyric escarp]

💀 true

[tired obsidian]

Everything

[trim geode]

I still use ESLint/Prettier for Vue and such

[jaunty anchor]

but?

[lyric escarp]

none

[trim geode]

I've been tempted to try oxlint for it but meh

[cunning coyote]

i use biome

[lyric escarp]

hanna approved

I'm migrating back to biome

[tired obsidian]

What is biome? I'm so outta the loop

[trim geode]

I default to biome, except for frontend projects

[lyric escarp]

a formatter and linter

[quiet saddle]

linter, formatter

[cunning coyote]

linter + formatter in one package

one config instead of 2

[trim geode]

linter and formatter with reasonable defaults

I felt left out so I wanted to add on

[tired obsidian]

Reasonable defaults, you say?

I do like reasonable

[jade current]

Too small

[trim geode]

I'd say pretty reasonable

[lyric escarp]

every projects I just do
cp ~/Scripts/myanotherwebsite/biome.json . immediately

[cunning coyote]

ive wanted to try oxlint but im too lazy to migrate

[quiet saddle]

and everything is configurable ofc

[cunning coyote]

(and oxfmt)

[lyric escarp]

I still keep separate vscode profile for biome too

[trim geode]

https://github.com/ShadyDonkey/torkin-bot/blob/main/biome.json

This is pretty close to what I normally use...and most of that is default init

[viscid steppe]

-# so like ruff in python

[jade current]

Jason

[lyric escarp]

We love Jason

[viscid steppe]

This chat is sponsored by Big Jason

[lyric escarp]

The undeniable savior of every single platforms

It's just so easy to parse

[trim geode]

toml better

[lyric escarp]

not for API purpose?

[trim geode]

Just return toml

everything toml

[viscid steppe]

Plain text >

[trim geode]

Input? Toml
Output? Toml

[lyric escarp]

I use going to use binaries to send info from 1 ESP32 to another, but then I realized JSON is more reusable

[trim geode]

Config? Toml

[lyric escarp]

And I wrote a parser in like 10 mins

[quiet saddle]

esp32?

[lyric escarp]

yeah? I work a lot with robotics

[quiet saddle]

okay I didn't know what that was lol

[lyric escarp]

It's a microcontroller with wifi/bluetooth antenna basically

I had to send information from one side of the school to another, back and forth

and so I chose jason

[quiet saddle]

ahhh

TLS Presentation Language my beloved

[lyric escarp]

there was a terrible accident and the server node went dead, I'm considering raft consensus to make it assign a new master node automatically

but it seems complicated

(same thing used in docker swarm)

[quiet saddle]

i think you should give the nodes autonomy to mutinize against the master node if they feel it isn't performing its duties

[lyric escarp]

But then multiple nodes could promote itself at the same time unknowingly

[trim geode]

React in Rust

[lyric escarp]

RSX?

What if you translate react code to RSX

[patent carbon]

so THAT's why programmers are often single

[jade current]

:dogeKek:

[patent carbon]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[deep wren]

@jayden

[jade current]

For some reason, I can't remember what I was gonna do :thinking:

[echo hornet]

Help me

[daring wasp]

with what

[echo hornet]

I am new I am starting now

[jade current]

Do you know of a programming language? Do you have prior knowledge about programming?

[echo hornet]

Yuppppp

[jade current]

What programming languages do you know? And what exactly do you need help with?

[echo hornet]

Yessss

@void haven

[patent carbon]

That was not a yes or no question...

[agile cave]

The yessss programming language

[echo hornet]

Programing language is a formal set of rules instructions used by humans to communicate with computer

[patent carbon]

uhhh....

[daring wasp]

like do you know python, javascript, java something like that?

not the definition of programming language

[echo hornet]

No

[patent carbon]

At least it wasn't the English programming language

[jade current]

Then you should learn one

[echo hornet]

Ook help meee

[patent carbon]

What programming lanugage do you want to learn? We can point you to beginner's guides and learning resources

[balmy basin]

Huh I know yes programming language well

[echo hornet]

Discord Moderator

[patent carbon]

... nevermind

[balmy basin]

Nice language

Is it compiled or so

[jade current]

I mean, saying "no" would defeat the purpose of the language

[jade current]

Jokes aside, at least try to be serious here...?

[patent carbon]

and if youre not joking... then you misunderstand the purpose of this server

[echo hornet]

Joking

[quiet saddle]

@patent carbon im running biome for the first time

[patent carbon]

ok... then dont do that

[patent carbon]

lol ive done that on one of my projects just to see what it did... the limiter was a little too low

[trim geode]

--fix --unsafe moment

[echo hornet]

I want to make DISCORD developer

[quiet saddle]

yeah I had to increase the max count from the default, i set it to 2000... still going so far

oh it's done!

[patent carbon]

show the stats!

[patent carbon]

not bad for 205 files on a first scan

[trim geode]

yeah its really not

[quiet saddle]

yeah lemme do a line count rq

[trim geode]

I wonder how many can be auto fixed

[cunning pecan]

yes

[patent carbon]

look at you with the 90 line file average... keeping your code organized

[jade current]

No 3-digit infos

[quiet saddle]

[jade current]

Jason language

[daring wasp]

what's the name of this tool again

[quiet saddle]

i use scc but you can also use cloc or sloc or something

[cunning pecan]

Json Derulo

[patent carbon]

HAHAHAHA

i like that one

[jade current]

{
  "print": "Hello, World!"
}

[daring wasp]

dpy :p

[quiet saddle]

can i get it to show me the error/warning counts by file or by error type or something?

[patent carbon]

i thought you're the biome expert

[quiet saddle]

honestly never used it except on other people's repos

i've never used a linter before i always just maintained my code

omg why is the default indentStyle "tab"

[patent carbon]

idk

that annoys me too

[surreal sorrel]

What is .gg/discord?

[patent carbon]

huh... i thought this one would be bigger given it's age

[cunning pecan]

oh no, not another tabs vs spaces debate

[patent carbon]

there's always a right answer... mine /j

[trim geode]

spaces > tabs

[quiet saddle]

what project is that? also holy complexity score

[jade current]

Newline>

[cunning pecan]

right answer? i mean they both indent to the right

[patent carbon]

my backend server

[cunning pecan]

hehe

[patent carbon]

ha ha... backend... the funny word

[jade current]

Me when ‏ unicode

[surreal sorrel]

Wha'ts Buildathon?

[patent carbon]

but yes, it's kinda a nightmare to work with sometimes...... this is after like 2 massive refactors as well

[trim geode]

What are you using to get those stats?

[quiet saddle]

okay im running this again with the dumb tab thing turned off

[patent carbon]

scc

i dont remember the name of the tool

[quiet saddle]

thats what it's called

just scc

[patent carbon]

oh... ya it is https://github.com/boyter/scc

it's an acronym... that makes sense

[quiet saddle]

written in go for some reason

[patent carbon]

youre just a hater

[cunning pecan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbstcxnC7Fg

[surreal sorrel]

Thanks!

[quiet saddle]

the formatter doesn't tell me what rules i broke lol it just says "we would have written it like: ..."

and then rewrites the whole file

OHHHHHH

it doesn't like my carriage returns

goddamn windows

[patent carbon]

if only there was a better option /j

[quiet saddle]

[patent carbon]

hey! i use windows too

[trim geode]

I ran it in my novus directory...so the entire novus project thus far

[patent carbon]

the estimated values at the bottom are dumb... but i like the counts

[quiet saddle]

yeah

[trim geode]

nooo let me bask in the glory of my 466k value

I don't even know where this JSON is

[quiet saddle]

what on earth

[patent carbon]

oh a million.... wait

[trim geode]

WAIT. MY CRYPTO SCAM COLLECTION

[cunning pecan]

bruh

[trim geode]

yup...that was it

[patent carbon]

22.5m lines of json?

[quiet saddle]

[trim geode]

yeah it's autogenerated stats and such

[patent carbon]

still tho

[trim geode]

there's like 10 GB of crypto scams

and its all hashes, phrases, stats, etc

and there's probably a lot of junk too

[quiet saddle]

matt why are you working for discord for free

[trim geode]

they owe me $1b

[quiet saddle]

should probably let someone know before the IPO

[trim geode]

true

[patent carbon]

ya dont want to deflate your stocks

[viscid steppe]

Didnt know that matt is a billionaire

[trim geode]

I'm doing the work of..... 470 people

[viscid steppe]

470x dev

[trim geode]

I am the true 100x dev

[quiet saddle]

mystos

[trim geode]

I ran it on my entire "Developer" folder lmaooo

of my near $1.2bn valuation as a 500x dev, just over $1bn is for Discord. Come on Discord, pay up 👏

[quiet saddle]

okay i wanna know WHAT this file is and why it is in my development folder

[trim geode]

LOLOLOL

[patent carbon]

unreal... you should pass it up the chain

[trim geode]

yeah, pass it up the 1 billion dollar chain

[patent carbon]

ew, i have a lua file

[trim geode]

I have a "Jinja" file

[quiet saddle]

i have one too wtf

OH WAIT

[trim geode]

ive never used this

[quiet saddle]

it's from IfElseIsEven or whatever we call it

[patent carbon]

huh

[patent carbon]

lol the cursed repo has ruined your scc and made you have rust files

[quiet saddle]

yes omg

interestingly, i have no GO files

[patent carbon]

thats unfortunate

[quiet saddle]

im GOing to keep it that way

[patent carbon]

ill just make a pr to iselseiseven

[quiet saddle]

ill reject it

[patent carbon]

HOW DARE

[quiet saddle]

"language does not meet repo standards"

[cunning pecan]

rejected, used tabs

[patent carbon]

not everything needs to be minified

[quiet saddle]

lol remember when someone submitted a PR and tried to make a bunch of changes to "optimize" sacul's python version

[patent carbon]

i do not but i would love to see the PR... like several thousand lines of changes with just formatting changes?

[trim geode]

????

[patent carbon]

omg its even better

[quiet saddle]

https://github.com/Sacul0457/if-else-is-even/pull/3

[trim geode]

A story in 2 photos

[patent carbon]

bigger question is... why would someone try and optimize that repo?

[patent carbon]

[quiet saddle]

that was after he addressed my concerns though

[patent carbon]

wait there already is a golang.go version

even though go.go would have been funnier

[quiet saddle]

oh yeah i think @balmy basin made it

[devout needle]

Hello, im new here!

[jade current]

Hi new here

[jade current]

Makes me remember of the outmaneuver guy

[hollow pagoda]

Hi, I want to create a Discord bot since I’m learning Python and thought it would be fun to give it a try. I’m wondering if it’s easy or hard to do.😅

[balmy basin]

Yeah

[jade current]

Difficulty is subjective

github.com/outmaneuver lol

[pale hull]

Who's profile is that?

[jade current]

https://github.com/leymbda/Modkit-old/pull/38#issuecomment-2456111265
- Fin

[hollow pagoda]

Yes, indeed, I currently want to strengthen my Python skills, that's it😁

[patent carbon]

depending on your already existing skills... it might not be worth it yet

but once you get comfortable working with async programming, a bot is a good first "big project"

[daring wasp]

from pycord, but the same can be said for other python libs too

[jade current]

A professional vibe coder who once peaked on 2024

[quiet saddle]

[jade current]

They have more rejected/closed PRs than merged ones

[patent carbon]

oop

[trim geode]

I wanna see these PRs...i might go looking

[hollow pagoda]

thanks for your thoughts....😄

[jade current]

DDevs victims so far was just Fin and the discmoji dev (forgot their actual name)

[pale hull]

Did you use to be active here then took a break? I only remember you for about the last 1-2 months

[jade current]

Ah, so you don't know me yet

[trim geode]

demo.py

[pale hull]

😮

[blissful sequoia]

of course its demo

[quiet saddle]

I knew it the day he showed up

[blissful sequoia]

i assumed it was

mannerisms are too similar

[pale hull]

I associate people so strongly with there pfp

[cunning pecan]

idk what is real anymore

[trim geode]

my annoyance with this bug...that's what real

[blissful sequoia]

technically speaking, theyre the same

[glass silo]

Oh so it's actually demo

[quiet saddle]

I'm shocked that anyone didn't know, lol

[glass silo]

The emojis were a sign

[pale hull]

The lack of pithon did not help

[quiet saddle]

but even when he was using regular emojis briefly I knew

[cunning pecan]

if I ever go in with an alt account im cooked lmao

[quiet saddle]

I'd spot you

[glass silo]

Will the alt be called "real"

[undone plover]

is there a support server??

[quiet saddle]

no

[undone plover]

well that sucks

my main account got disabled for being flagged but i cant relog into the account so i was hoping there was a support server

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[bronze stirrup]

Does anyone have lavalink or source for public lavalink

[sullen pumice]

Which of us is real

[trim geode]

Which of us is fake

-# ignore the roles ofc

Eventually I'll move all my dev stuff to that work account...eventually

[carmine seal]

......

[glass silo]

https://lavalink-list.darrennathanael.com one google away

[wicked shuttle]

Sup nerds

[pale hull]

Is lava link for discord?

[trim geode]

yes

[wicked shuttle]

I’m the real one actually

[trim geode]

erm actually I have the proof that I'm a 410x developer so I'm the real one

[pale hull]

Duckduckgo has an email service?

[wicked shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[wicked shuttle]

yes

[cunning pecan]

the email forwarding service

[wicked shuttle]

It’s a forwarding service that sifts out scams and spam

So I use it for my public email, so I don’t have to put up with trash mail

[wispy wind]

y soo many buildathon champions in chat lol

[trim geode]

but...if you have a set forwarding email...doesn't that just defeat the purpose?

[pale hull]

There were 9 I think

[wicked shuttle]

potentially.

[trim geode]

like I use forwarding services for temp mail ill trash like immediately after

ezpz lemon squeezy

[wicked shuttle]

I also use it for stuff I don’t care about, (random stock photo websites that I’ll never use again) when I make like uis n such

[pale hull]

Idk why but ddg has always made me feel a bit uneasy in the sense that it is not all it says it is

[wicked shuttle]

I mean that’s fair, I personally don’t care that much… my private info is already out man… every website wants your personal info these days…

Even Roblox wants my ID and face biometrics just to play some dang games

[bronze stirrup]

Not working

[bleak pond]

hello soraai

[jade current]

Fake AI

[trim geode]

yeahhh, ive never been a fan of it. it's still setting data and showing ads...its just...not as bad as google. if I was actually gonna switch id go to like kagi and pay for it so i know exactly what im getting

[daring wasp]

im real

[bleak pond]

prove it

[jade current]

Hi real

[daring wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-plink-glasses-side-eye-smart-gif-11422187893182432522

[bleak pond]

is that your alt demo

[daring wasp]

I generated this cat video

[jade current]

What alt

[daring wasp]

demo's gone

[wicked shuttle]

Well everyone is gonna be flocking to DDG and other browsers tmr

[bleak pond]

sad

[wicked shuttle]

Google is speedrunning how to destroy their own brand

[trim geode]

No one is "flocking" to other browsers lmao

[daring wasp]

maybe he's gonna come with a new account soon

[bleak pond]

ye

[wicked shuttle]

Google is rolling out a complete ai model

[daring wasp]

-# starting with k-

[wicked shuttle]

and sunsetting traditional browsing

[pale hull]

I switched to Firefox because chrome kept bugging out

[jade current]

My main is still infested with brainrot. I'm letting it simmer under the sun for a while

[daring wasp]

oh right android 17 is gonna have a ton of ai :p

the ai generatable widgets seem cool though

[pale hull]

Android is going to be majorly downgraded :/

[wicked shuttle]

Gonna be genuinely so TRASH

[trim geode]

even if they released some crazy bad things chrome owns so much of the market it would mean almost everyone would have to change...including normies...and that could take years if not near decade to fully migrate.
and web devs won't fully switch because they need to test on the major browsers to ensure compatibility....

gonna be
uses AI result
scared of AI in chrome

You're literally using AI to justify avoidance of AI

[wicked shuttle]

nobody wants this — like everybody hates ai… nobody wants this, why change the literal roots of Google and what made them such a successful company to begin with.

[jade current]

What's wrong with a browser eating 90% of your RAM:(

[pale hull]

https://keepandroidopen.org/

[daring wasp]

and theyre also making sideloading a hidden developer settings feature

[bleak pond]

delete it then

[jade current]

The RAM? Sure

[pale hull]

It will get fat

[cunning pecan]

wait

[jade current]

Waiting

[trim geode]

Also crazy that we're equating search changes to chrome changes. AFAIK the search changes have zero relation to chrome and that experience will be the same no matter your browser

[daring wasp]

True

might have to switch search engine

[jade current]

Could've been me

[quiet saddle]

i ran biome lint and it looks like there's only 8 errors - most of which seem to be on the file i'm actively working on

[trim geode]

[jade current]

Dunno what a GitHub Organization is, but I made one for fun :D

[wispy wind]

now make a open source discord clone

[jade current]

Peak

Front-end and back-end is Python

https://github.com/demoutrei-py

[lyric escarp]

206 warnings

[lyric escarp]

you're who?

🤨

[wispy wind]

make frontend in markdown

[quiet saddle]

first time running it on 20K loc

[lyric escarp]

what about... linter extension? :pensive:

[quiet saddle]

idk, never used a linter before

most of these warnings are just things i'm going to have to explicitly ignore anyways

or setup rules for

[jade current]

I'm not

[lyric escarp]

yes you are

you're the pensive guy

[wispy wind]

demo

[jade current]

Why not HTMLish

[lyric escarp]

all these time demo was here

[wispy wind]

actually, make it soo open that, put the db url on client side

[jade current]

I'm gonna push my dotenv file

[quiet saddle]

duh

[lyric escarp]

.env my beloved

[wispy wind]

demo is just busy working, he'll come back

i ran python demo.py

[kind minnow]

Anyone here going to twitch con rotterdam?

[jade current]

Script is blocking

[round canopy]

The ticket now says "open," does that mean it's over or about to end?

[lyric escarp]

the ticket open means still waiting

[peak halo]

it means you've opened it and should wait

[lyric escarp]

it's gonna take a long time

[queen lake]

Morning! Don't just have a great day—make it a great day. You have the power to do it.

[warm ember]

Why is discord intents approval taking so long?? Almost 4 days now

[verbal wraith]

People reported even month+

[bleak pond]

even more

[warm ember]

Idk whyyyy usually they did it like in 24h

I got a lot of big servers waiting to use my bot

And they cant

[verbal wraith]

You can only wait and pray pretty much

[olive depot]

"usually" when was that usually

[olive depot]

Or make the bot leave from inactive servers

[warm ember]

Like months ago

[olive depot]

I doubt

[warm ember]

I have been thinking about it but it will look bad

[olive depot]

Why?

[warm ember]

It looks like im putting small servers bellow big ones

Not equal and ppl will complain

[olive depot]

Inactive = totally inactive
Not small servers

[warm ember]

How i will know?

[bleak pond]

back when there were not that many bots back then

[olive depot]

You can check server members count

[glad quartz]

Anyone have douwan subscription??

[bleak pond]

no

[trim geode]

#JustVibeCodeIt

[jade current]

What intents are you applying for?

[bleak pond]

for lazy ppl

[warm ember]

Server Members Intent and Message Content Intent. Becouse my bot got welcomes/goodbyes, analitycs, logs

[trim geode]

You do realize you don't need either intent like any of those right?

[warm ember]

I got more functions

https://cosmosbot.net

[verbal wraith]

K...

[modest geyser]

Replace 5 bots with one that does everything subpar

[trim geode]

And besides that...just disable the modules that require the intents temporarily...

and like...a lot of these Im looking at don't need it either...or could be automod rules...

[modest geyser]

You could even do autoresponders as an automod rule

[trim geode]

• anti ping: automod, not protected
• ghost ping: not protected by intent
• event logging: just ignore ones that require intents for now
• welcomer: hate those, but beside personal preference just disable the guild members intent temporarily
• attachment only: just disable it temporarily
• Ones that don't need intents:
  • levels/xp
  • giveaways
  • server metrics
  • boost rewards
  • server website
  • embed builder
  • role prefixes
  • any economy system

So of the however many things...only 2 very specific functions are impacted from what I'm reading

[blissful sequoia]

looking at your grid

• anti-ping protection can be done via automoderation
• levels & xp dont need msg content
• N/A
• N/A
• N/A
• N/A (why a dashboard? the less you have to leave the app the better)
• not protected by intent
• N/A
• N/A

[trim geode]

wait we did the same thing lmaoo

[blissful sequoia]

interconnected minds

[trim geode]

the DDevs braincell at work

[blissful sequoia]

the hivemind

[daring wasp]

singular braincell of grafana appreciators discord server

[trim geode]

but its funny we basically came to the same conclussion

[blissful sequoia]

also the automoderation one would likely be easier since you dont really have to do anything your-side to save the data lol

[jade current]

Sharing one brain cell

The Epic Cake is a lie

[jade current]

AutoMod command mentioned

[verbal wraith]

🗣️🔥

[trim geode]

okay jetbrains

[jade current]

pyfmt

[verbal wraith]

pyftw*

[jade current]

Real

[hollow comet]

Hey, how do you remove a bot from a team?

[jade current]

Can't

[upbeat anchor]

who at google thought using million bytes as a term is a good idea

[glass silo]

Very useful

[trim geode]

the one thing I hate about jetbrains products

[quiet saddle]

oh god i would hate that

[trim geode]

without inlay hints btw

[glass silo]

Why are they so obnoxiously big

[trim geode]

RIGHT

AND INLINE. LIKE WHYYYYY

not even goland has that...

[tall thunder]

cant you make them smaller? like their font size/max width before ...

[trim geode]

let me check

nope...

[tall thunder]

ouch

would kinda expect it at their price

[trim geode]

Or at least change the behavior to be above the line

[tall thunder]

you could make a feature request for it

[trim geode]

or I could just disable it and not worry about it becuase they don't provide me any value anyway because if I needed it I can just hover

[tall thunder]

yeah ig xD

[floral rapids]

seems fine to me

rust analyzer does this so i'm used to it

[trim geode]

but that's IN EDITOR

not just a tool.

[tall thunder]

but tbf they are, if not too long, kinda nice

[trim geode]

they absolutely could be

[tall thunder]

these are more useless xD

the little clickable in front of the url

[trim geode]

for context.

[daring wasp]

how do you record like that :p

[trim geode]

I knew it would be asked lmao. hold on

I kept seeing screenstudio, but didn't wanna pay the price and stumbled on this: https://www.screenkite.com/

I haven't used it much and just tinkering every now and again.

[tall thunder]

dont need it on windows :p

but looks greeat

[trim geode]

I don't think windows has a tool like that

unless im misremembering

[tall thunder]

windows shift s has built in screeen recording

[trim geode]

Oh yeah, so does mac

ScreenKite just does all the background things, auto zoom, showing the key strokes, and blah blah blah

Which I don't think windows has natively either

[tall thunder]

nope
you can decide the frame size thats it :p

[trim geode]

pretty much the same for macos

[hollow comet]

wow

[tall thunder]

?

[hollow comet]

I do everything with an AI XDD teach me

[modest geyser]

People like that exists????

[tall thunder]

log out of them, delete their desktop apps and any extensions and just code xD

[modest geyser]

Or are they ai themselves? :think:

[tall thunder]

if you dont know something there is something called google thats really helpful but disable ai reponses there too if you also want to get better at research

[trim geode]

[modest geyser]

Honestly i dont understand the point in non programmers using ai to program entirely wouldnt that actually be more expensive than hiring someone to do it?

And you actually get working stuff usually

[tall thunder]

probably not if they already have like chatgpt pro etc

[floral rapids]

uh oh

[modest geyser]

I do not know anyone that doesn’t program and has some llm premium plan let alone use llm’s

[modest geyser]

Clangd does the same thing!

Especially when opening a template heavy file

[tall thunder]

oh i know too many

[modest geyser]

Interesting.

[tall thunder]

like you got the programmers, non programmer it people, some finance and excel people

i mean it's definitly helpful for debugging/configurating server stuff

[modest geyser]

Yea ai is good for debugging in a way you try to debug something with it and it starts hallucinating and you get so mad you just do it yourself in 5 mins

[tall thunder]

no like actually xD
i dont mean programming debugging but server cli service debugging

[upbeat anchor]

AI: i think i see the problem now after breaking the file from its tests

[timber sparrow]

Whats platform manipulation?

[trim geode]

I'm rewatching Silicon Valley and I swear every time I rewatch it I pick up on more and more subtle things...like this time they're indirectly referencing clean room engineering

[timber sparrow]

2 of my new servers got limited due to that reason even my account. We didnt do anything

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[timber sparrow]

I thought this was for server developemnt

[near crescent]

oh as in building discord servers? no

[timber sparrow]

i have contacted them throu email but no response. So is there any server where i could make ticket and solve issues

[trim geode]

It's not that kinda server development

[near crescent]

there is not, no; the ticket system is the way to go

[trim geode]

And no, Discord does not have any form of live support

[timber sparrow]

ah man

they keep limiting my servers and accounts

[trim geode]

Any individual on the discord platform who's trying to say they are support is not actually support and actively trying to scam you.

[timber sparrow]

even thou when i didnt do anything

[trim geode]

We can't help you with that.

[near crescent]

unfortunate, but complaining about here won't do anything

[timber sparrow]

ah shi. But i js messaged their twitter privately. Will i recieve response from there?

[trim geode]

[timber sparrow]

😭

[trim geode]

Doesn't speed up the process even if they do

[timber sparrow]

Uh

[trim geode]

and creating multiple accounts just to evade platform level punishments doesn't help your case either.

[trim geode]

Like in episode 2 hooli creates a team for nucleus who's sole job is to reverse engineer the pied piper algorithm and make their own version as close as they can without getting sued. It's actually so interesting how it references what actually happens with things like clean room engineering

and I never picked up on it till now

Or how like they use like the proper terms for start up orgs needing a SS-4 for requesting an EIN so they can open a bank account under an Inc.

[timber sparrow]

I cant message in that acc. So i js made a new one

[midnight hare]

Hello my friends How are you?

[jade current]

I doubt their Twitter account are for account/server issues; more like general questions in that sense. You're better off in the Support portal instead

[near crescent]

@tiny pendant please use this channel or #1403147433369800888 for showcasing your projects
#social-sdk-dev-chat and #activities-dev-chat and categories are specifically for those topics

[fossil igloo]

It a mod in chat

[fossil igloo]

Do you add back

[trim geode]

😮‍💨

[near crescent]

?

[sinful ibex]

[verbal wraith]

[fossil igloo]

Are you

[quiet saddle]

is he what

[jade current]

He's cool

[fossil igloo]

Adding back

[quiet saddle]

why would he do that

[trim geode]

people use the friend system?

[fossil igloo]

So no

[fossil igloo]

Question

[quiet saddle]

I do, but I wouldn't send a friend request to someone who doesn't even know me

[blissful dew]

[verbal wraith]

I have only my brother and my alt in friends

[near crescent]

adding back what?

[fossil igloo]

As a friend

[floral rapids]

you know i'm about to lose it if i get another error on a npx prisma migrate dev after a npx prisma migrate reset

[near crescent]

i'm not a pokemon, stop trying to collect me like one, thank you

[trim geode]

[verbal wraith]

I'm tho

[trim geode]

[verbal wraith]

Send me all of friend requests

[modest geyser]

throws a pokeball at you

[trim geode]

https://tenor.com/view/wooper-pokemon-pokeball-bonk-bounce-gif-9446917560543061478

[quiet saddle]

we're friends, though

[floral rapids]

only reason i did one of the projects in prisma and not drizzle is because i want others to understand, this backfired real quick

[trim geode]

yesmam we are

[verbal wraith]

Throw a masterball, 100% chance

[near crescent]

the question is what the chance is for

[jade current]

Of throwing

[verbal wraith]

Of catching (unless you are catfish)

-# pokemon lore

[quiet saddle]

the chance to be sooji's friend

[trim geode]

it's 4am :( i need to sleep but i wanna keep working

[quiet saddle]

sleep is for quitters

jk you should probably get some rest

[trim geode]

I didn't sleep yesterday and crashed in a chair for liek 5 hours lmao

[jade current]

W*rk D:

[trim geode]

ill probably finish this and then go to bed

[jade current]

Cursive mono

[trim geode]

😮‍💨

[hollow cedar]

There are advertisements via DM. Who should I report it to?

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. To make a report to the Trust and Safety team, please use the in app reporting tool. For more information see this help article.

[verbal wraith]

If you mean by someone on this server, probably @willow gulch

[hollow cedar]

Thanks

[near crescent]

you will have to look for that somwhere else

[thorny dune]

Where

@near crescent

[near crescent]

i don't know

[verbal wraith]

"Do I look like this kind of person"

[trim geode]

got the interactions system to work lets gooo

not anything special but what's really interesting is that behind the scenes the interaction is running via HTTP interactions using React/JSX and calling the bot process via gRPC to update the guild configuration in real time which will take immediate effect.

Technology is cool af

[quiet saddle]

Wooo that's awesome!

[trim geode]

and it's using mTLS under the hood for authentication on gRPC side

[quiet saddle]

[trim geode]

now at this point I think I just have to like...build the release CI and the dockerfiles and I think the system is ready.

Will also have to load the near 20GB of images and start populating the DB... but that's a whole different thing.

[solid wind]

images stored in the db? 😭

[trim geode]

no lol

Images themselves are stored in an S3 bucket

I compute the hashes and store those bits in the DB

and those I load into memory

[solemn drift]

@fossil sigil

[bleak pond]

dont ping ppl here

[neat olive]

I see little value in storing those images at all tbh

[vestal fractal]

What's the alternative?

[neat olive]

just storing the phashes is the alternative

those are what's actually used for detection anyways

[vestal fractal]

Ah wat so then the images aren't needed at all

[neat olive]

yeah

[vestal fractal]

Ram x10

[neat olive]

the only instances where the images become necessary are if you change your phash implementation or for some reason need to e.g. figure out if an image is causing false positives (and for what reason)

but that's a lot of what amounts to ephemeral spam being stored for very limited purposes

also you might run into tos/legal issues since you're now storing message content in what might be perpetuity

[vestal fractal]

The bigger concern is probably resources

[trim geode]

Well I have to store them somewhere so I can you know...hash them lmao.

The only ones I actually store are the attachments attached to active messages before the retention period ends

Once everything's imported it's immediately deleted

[neat olive]

why not just calculate the hash when you get them

[vestal fractal]

aight bro

<@&1050493473033289778>

[flint basalt]

[trim geode]

Because depending on the language you're using in the image decoder you're using will potentially change how hash looks. Which is a fun experience of setting tolerance. So like a C++,.Python, and Go image decoders will change underlying bytes just a bit differently which will change the output haha.

So that's why my current collection stores the images raw because I thought about this months ago and knew I would need to rehash them with the final hashing implementation.
It's a 1 time import and once a file is imported and the hashes are saved, it's deleted. Tbh I could probably run it locally on my machine and dump it to the production server but I haven't decided on the approach yet.

As for the images flagged as they're sent I do store all messages for 7 days and anything that's slightly like known hashes gets sent to manual review and those hashes are stored if I approve it. After seven days, the DB row is dropped and the attachments are deleted from the bucket.

[balmy basin]

go mentioned

i cant learn sync lib

[near crescent]

that should not be the case

[balmy basin]

?

[trim geode]

Also exactly why I built in a retention period from the very very beginning

[near crescent]

the decoder should not change bytes

[solemn drift]

@fossil sigil

[balmy basin]

yeah for sure

[vestal fractal]

Is it not possible to "average" the hashes to compare them to a base hash? Instead of relying on 100% matches

[quiet saddle]

he isn't relying on 100% matches, that's the purpose of using phashes

[near crescent]

you may want to look at what p-hashing is again

[trim geode]

I may be misspeaking on the bytes specific but I do know each image decoder depending on its underlying implementation does change the output simply because of the language.

[trim geode]

#1403147433369800888 message

[near crescent]

it really shouldn't. using the same algorithm should produce the exact same phash regardless of implementation lang

[vestal fractal]

Yet you need to potentially track changes?

[trim geode]

I actually saw evidence of this in metas own repos as they had to have tolerances when testing their algorithm in different languages because their baseline came from C++

[trim geode]

I track changes if it's not an exact match so I can keep up to date with the evolving system.

[quiet saddle]

that would be a product of library differences if they're performing some kind of compression or other manipulation on the image data... the raw bytes themselves (or any encoded or hashed form of the raw bytes using a standardized algorithm) will be the same regardless

[trim geode]

Which is probably what's happening. Tbh I didn't look too far.

I just basically ported the code from C++

[vestal fractal]

I'd check if images are similar enough with a tolerance, don't see how you'd need to keep both raw image and its hash

[trim geode]

I don't keep the raw image...

[vestal fractal]

Then I think I misunderstand this

[trim geode]

Yeah. I have to store all message attachments somewhere

Lolol. I'm not gonna waste computational resources on attachments if they're not even valid crypto scams

[vestal fractal]

Because the hashes are prone to change?

[trim geode]

No. Because I log messages

It's how I track them.

[vestal fractal]

But that's temporary no?

[trim geode]

Yes. With a default 7 day retention.

[vestal fractal]

What's the benefit/point of keeping them for 7 days..

[quiet saddle]

...

[vestal fractal]

[trim geode]

Because there's more pipelines running than just crypto scams lol

Crypto scams is just one module

[vestal fractal]

[trim geode]

And plus if attachments trigger manual review being able to trace it back is really beneficial.

[vestal fractal]

Ok yes that makes sense

[trim geode]

So I just remembered why the bits can differ. Because PDQ requires JPEG and JPEG across languages can use different libs.

I just was seeing that with Go I was getting a couple bits off usually, which is within tolerance.

Why it all is different is beyond me tbh. I didn't dig that deep. I just googled, got that answer, adjusted accordingly and confirmed the behavior based on the Python tests, adapted, moved on hahaha.

Basically something something DCT and quantinization in the context of PDQ and blah blah.

[solid wind]

storing source material when its 20gb is totally reasonable idk why people are suggesting not

[celest roost]

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[verbal wraith]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[cunning coyote]

[verbal wraith]

[trim geode]

I mean that's just sitting on my PC at the moment but yeah. I mean like...it's really not that much. And I'm using Back blaze so unless I'm hitting over like 1TB of storage a month and 3TB of bandwidth a month...I'm actually not even paying a cent.

Storage is incredibly cheap. it's actually the cheapest part of the process

[glass silo]

what do yall use for hosting stuff?

[trim geode]

Hetzner usually. But my dedi is on ReliabeSite now

OVH is a good option too but meh. Dedis were too pricey for me

[glass silo]

ahh

basically everyone i ask says either hetzner or ovh

but both's cheapest options are unavailable rn

[vestal fractal]

If I needed a VPS, I don't know honestly, I think I'd choose Hetzner, though I considered AWS in the past

[glass silo]

this looks nice https://www.time4vps.com/linux-vps/ https://images.soheab.com/qq-ff-vv-ww.png

[native pilot]

I have a cheap galaxygate vps

[glass silo]

gg looks very expensive

cheapest is $3 for 1gb ram

https://galaxygate.net/hosting/vps/

[trim geode]

I would not consider them cheap by any means haha

[verbal wraith]

Datalix 99% of times

[frank trout]

Anyone Roblox Dev

[jade current]

Given the server name, doubt so

[glass silo]

https://images.soheab.com/cc.yy.ee.mm.png https://www.netcup.com/en/server/vps not bad either i think

[vestal fractal]

Is that the usual max RAM you get with 12 usd? (not that it's suuper unreasonable)

[frank trout]

It is

[vestal fractal]

I'll stick to self hosting

[glass silo]

i wish i had the space for that

[vestal fractal]

It doesn't need to be anything huge

[solid wind]

people often seriously overestimate how much ram you need for a vps

so used to seeing 16/32/64 in PCs and just assume thats necessary but nope

[vestal fractal]

It really depends on your projects...

I never said 16+ should be some sort of a standard

I just dunno the usual pricing for each thing

[solid wind]

ive had a djs bot running on a 0.5gb ram one previously 😂

[vestal fractal]

I have 2 laptops that have some nice specs for hosting but I don't like using laptops for that

Where am I even gonna put them

My RPI sits on a glass shelf along with the router

[verbal wraith]

In the freezer, obviously

[vestal fractal]

There's plenty of room outside too

[wanton parrot]

HELLO Is there a disboard server I entered something with no offense nothing against rules on my server description it keeps rejecting my disboard message

[verbal wraith]

Does it look like a disboard server?

There is one somewhere, you have to find it yourself

[trim geode]

I have 128GB on my dedi....

[quiet saddle]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[verbal wraith]

[trim geode]

Beat me to it

[wanton parrot]

fokin ball

[vestal fractal]

How much of it do you use lol

[trim geode]

🎱

[trim geode]

None because it's brand new lmao. I havent moved my projects overs

[vestal fractal]

How much will it probably be then xD

Because 128 is a lot

[glass silo]

same, until I needed more than 4gb

[trim geode]

I have about 28GB between all my VPS so unlikely to ever really hit the 128GB, but it was a solid price for everything and fit all my requirements otherwise. Plus I know with a lot of what I'm doing now imma be leaning into LRU memory caching which I've avoided in the past because speed didn't matter. Now that speed does matter.

And in theory I'll still never come close to that max but it gives me room

[verbal wraith]

Plenty of room for a memory leak(s)

[vestal fractal]

If laptop RAM was reusable (practically) then I could get to 48/64

Sucks

My PC has decent specs but I won't sacrifice it

[trim geode]

I have 64GB just laying around cause I havent been bothered to put it back in the PCs lmao.

[vestal fractal]

Wish my RPI had a better gpu

[trim geode]

32GB DDR4, 32GB DDR5

I really should put them back in their systems at some point

[vestal fractal]

Or sell

[vestal fractal]

Same goes for their GPUs

Any laptop part basically

[half barn]

ok here's a question i'm sure people will be annoyed at: functions or arrow functions for react components. reasoning is mandatory

[trim geode]

Do whatever you want.

[half barn]

this answer is not in the spirit of the conversation, be angry at each other please

[quiet saddle]

lol

i personally use arrow functions because it's sort of typescript convention i think? but i don't feel too strongly about it

[tired obsidian]

Arrow functions just feel better. But then again, I never use the function keyword in my code so I'm biased

[half barn]

I use arrow functions too because it lets you skip the return statement typescript const Doohickey = (): ReactElement => ( <> ... </> )

[trim geode]

There is no real functional difference for most people unless you're going for specific things with binding or hoisting. It's literally just preference

[quiet saddle]

yeah in my code in general i use implicit return very often

[tired obsidian]

Implicit return is the bomb, yo

[vestal fractal]

I almost never use lambdas

[half barn]

I would argue that using arrow functions implies that you're intending to pass a function around

imo it improves clarity when you create a distinction by doing so

[quiet saddle]

in fact the function i just wrote uses implicit return

[trim geode]

Some people prefer function definitions because it separates the visual of variables vs functions.

It's just preference

[half barn]

also jesus christ this is unreadable

[quiet saddle]

well it has to do something kinda complicated

[trim geode]

Ehhh. It's readable enough.

[tired obsidian]

Is this for ratcheting?

[half barn]

6 indentations is excessive

[quiet saddle]

yes

[tired obsidian]

I KNOW THINGS!

[half barn]

it could have been made more digestable if it wasn't forced to be this way by implicit return

[tired obsidian]

🎉

[native pilot]

I used to always use arrow functions, now I tend to use function

idk why

[trim geode]

Without implicit it would be like 7 or 8 indentations.

[half barn]

i don't think it would be?

[trim geode]

I find myself changing depending on the language I'm primarily working in. So if I move from Go to JS I tend to naturally favor function rather than if I go from Python to JS or just stay in JS land for a while

[tired obsidian]

I found myself overwriting prior function names using the function keyword. So I switched to const myFn = () = { }. Can't remap a const function expression

[quiet saddle]

yeah that's a nice benefit of using const to define functions

[tired obsidian]

Heck, if I ever need to use this for some reason, I do const myFn = function() { } :p

[quiet saddle]

also to be fair, most of my functions are not this deeply nested or this long... this just happens to be one of the particularly complex steps where it makes more sense to do everything all in one pass vs. breaking it up

[half barn]

4 and it can be condensed further

[quiet saddle]

that's fair yeah

[half barn]

ig this one is better for clarity, first was auto formatted

[olive depot]

@weary bluff is there any specific reason you're using local language on online platform where you speak English?

[daring wasp]

I am very much tired but now I have 5 days of rest!

[trim geode]

Many cultures speak multiple languages.

[weary bluff]

my customers are also from TR so, I do take screenshots to tell them what to do

[trim geode]

English may not be their primary

[olive depot]

me too, 5 days rest for eid ul adha

[weary bluff]

yep, It is not

[half barn]

also isn't that last async redundant

[olive depot]

that's the main reason or the local language is easier for you?

[half barn]

you're just creating a promise which awaits the result of a different async function

[daring wasp]

local language can be easier for most

[trim geode]

Some people also learn languages by immersion so could be also someone trying to learn.

[weary bluff]

I do understand both of them, local language is my primary lang

[daring wasp]

though I prefer english more than my own local language for everything

[weary bluff]

as I said

[quiet saddle]

no, it's recursive

[olive depot]

yep i know, just investigating why people choose local over English when they can even speak better English and English in most of cases fit better

[quiet saddle]

tail recursive to be precise

[cunning gorge]

yeah generally for online stuff, english has all of the right words compared to german where UI would be "Benutzeroberfläche" ew

[jade current]

en-GB

[weary bluff]

server rules :d

[trim geode]

Unless you've spoken to them in the primary language...how would you know...

And English isn't the only language in the world..

[verbal wraith]

[half barn]

but aren't these functionally equivalent anyway typescript async (childTreeSecret) => await toLeaf(...) (childTreeSecret) => toLeaf(...)

the former just flattens itself anyway

[quiet saddle]

toLeaf is an async function

[trim geode]

In terms of native speakers it's Chinese, then Spanish, then English.

[half barn]

yes but it's a Promise<Promise<Whatever>> where the outer promise does nothing but wait for the inner one. it just flattens into a Promise<Whatever>

[weary bluff]

It all depends to server's primary language lol

[trim geode]

Yeah exactly lol

[jovial solar]

Naon

[trim geode]

And a lot of places teach English as it's just a common second language that's globally recognized but it's definitely not the like most popular

[olive depot]

Though the screenshot he sent ? lol

[trim geode]

But you're claiming they can speak English better or that English fits better...when you don't know that because they're restricted to English in this specific setting due to the rules

[weary bluff]

it's Turkish, but bot details are English because people mainly understand English in this platform

[vestal fractal]

I just like English more for stuff like this, definitely better for UI than my RTL language

[weary bluff]

That's why banner and app bio is English

[olive depot]

I assumed, and didn't specifically mentioned him in the message where i claimed that

"people" not "neo"

[weary bluff]

Neo mentioned

https://tenor.com/view/keanu-reeves-the-matrix-neo-gif-9474730815536901824

[trim geode]

RTL support seems annoying to do lol. I feel like every time I've encountered it it just fully messess.up lmao

[weary bluff]

Well, my bot is seem like English but it is actually supporting your local lang

🤷‍♂️

[craggy osprey]

It normal..?

[near crescent]

what is?

[craggy osprey]

This account was created today and no have pfp

[tired obsidian]

That's usually how it goes until you upload one, yes

[verbal wraith]

It was made 7 days ago no?

[craggy osprey]

Yes

I see him online and tag but no response

[vestal fractal]

Yeah for example making an RTL interface for Discord wouldn't be easy
But in some places it's easy to implement (on the html level lol)

[verbal wraith]

He's just shy

[jade current]

OG default(?) PFPs were peaker

[weary bluff]

the game I am rebooting is having the current meme asset 10 years back then, damn

[craggy osprey]

Hmm ok

[quiet saddle]

without the inner async keyword, typescript can't infer the return type correctly with recursive async functions

[trim geode]

[dreamy spoke]

How to add sound to a mobile discord stream

[warped sentinel]

How we doin guys

[thick sonnet]

hmm

[stone osprey]

M

[jade current]

Hm, familiar PFP

[polar wolf]

guys i gifted a decoration to someone however it didnt get recieve by them what should i dothe payment was cut

[verbal wraith]

Contact support

[near crescent]

For billing and refund concerns, please reach out to Discord at https://dis.gd/billing.

[thorny cosmos]

dev chat

[thorny cosmos]

hi souji

[verbal wraith]

Indeed, dev chat

[jade current]

No recruitment

[dusky fox]

Not allowed? Here?

[jade current]

Yeah

[dusky fox]

Ok thanks

[jade current]

We can, however, help with any errors/inquiry (dev-related) you have

[dusky fox]

Ok

[misty hemlock]

Guys

[verbal wraith]

Yes?

[misty hemlock]

I made broadcast bot but bot got limited how I can do that without limited?

[vestal fractal]

What kind of limit

Did it DM many users

[misty hemlock]

Yep

[vestal fractal]

Yeah don't do that

Avoid mass DMing, Discord will quarantine your bot

[misty hemlock]

Yep

The bot got it 😞

[rotund spruce]

How to fix?

[misty hemlock]

But i dont know how another servers do it 😞

[amber moth]

Guys how to fix this issue

It is stucked here

[misty hemlock]

fix what

[vestal fractal]

End task and reopen it

[daring wasp]

offtopic but you're probably below 18 attempting to join an age restricted server