dev-chat

[subtle oasis]

usually im working only with a terminal panel

and notepadd++

[modest geyser]

Have yall heard of AIX

[trim geode]

never

[modest geyser]

Would you want to?

[subtle oasis]

i know CLI

[trim geode]

no, I like my debian

[subtle oasis]

CSI*

[modest geyser]

Fair

[subtle oasis]

that's really good now

[modest geyser]

My server infra is debian and nixos with some AIX and illumos

[subtle oasis]

look at this panel

[trim geode]

I've basically shifted to debian completely on most of my stuff

[modest geyser]

I really need to update my debian stuff to trixie

They are still on bookworm..

[trim geode]

right now I'm fighting getting grafana tempo deployed because configs are annoying.

[modest geyser]

End of support in a month or so

[modest geyser]

Real

[trim geode]

great victoriametrics and victorialogs are erroring

[modest geyser]

I use influxdb for my data

Because it was the simplest

[subtle oasis]

okay i'll save this information

that's really useful i guess

[jade current]

Who to Blame

[subtle oasis]

that's a linux distributive created professional cybersecurity for professional cybersecurity

however some repositories are broken but it's stable version

[modest geyser]

Except influxdb made me hate nosql databases more

Got overwhelmed hit my desk then figured it out somewhat

My schema is probably scuffed but its finee

[subtle oasis]

❤️

[modest geyser]

It was mainly me not understand how the csv write data worked

I did get better though

[subtle oasis]

Can i sent a text how csv working ?

[modest geyser]

My schema is image amount is the field with the scam status as a tag as im heavily grouping by the scam status in all of the queries and they are actually indexed

So it should be pretty fast and efficient which it is atleast now

[trim geode]

so what does your telem setup like?

[subtle oasis]

can you consider my resume i wanna tag cat

[modest geyser]

Dont think i understand what you are asking for

[jade current]

Is DisCatSharp a lib

[modest geyser]

Yea lala’s C# lib

[subtle oasis]

I like writing a games in Unity

Unreal Engine V very good

also i'm supporting cats

[trim geode]

how does it compare to the other libs in that space?

[quiet saddle]

it's excellent

[subtle oasis]

i wanna use this lib so much

[quiet saddle]

actually i think ill match maukkis

[modest geyser]

Honestly no idea ive never used it

Ive read its source code a bit and it looks nice

[quiet saddle]

there

[subtle oasis]

usually i like discord.py , disnake.py

[modest geyser]

Yey awesome!!!

[subtle oasis]

that's really cool libs

nextcord lib

discord.js the best

[quiet saddle]

the code is really well organized. ik from talking to lala that some discord staff use it for testing and stuff so it must be good

[modest geyser]

Yea it was easy to find what i was looking for

[subtle oasis]

i'll check it later and send you a bugs

[quiet saddle]

i mean if you find any bugs you should open an issue on their github

[subtle oasis]

i dont use github ((

but for this case i'll send pushes

Did you see
A few days ago there was an attack on GitHub and GitHub was completely copied and it's very sad

[quiet saddle]

github was already copied by AI ages ago

[subtle oasis]

But user data was not damaged, and that's very encouraging

[subtle oasis]

There they did all sorts of mailings specifically through emails and Microsoft, I looked specifically at it recently

You can google

[viscid steppe]

github is just a git host

[subtle oasis]

I know

[modest geyser]

Git remote infact

[viscid steppe]

a server that we can ssh into

[modest geyser]

Madeline i wish qt wasnt so OOP runtime polymorphism i would have loved to mess with templates but its kinda pointless

[subtle oasis]

Claude Mythos found over 10,000 critical vulnerabilities across dozens of companies. Cloudflare and thousands of important open-source projects were particularly vulnerable.

Independent researchers confirmed that 90% of the discovered vulnerabilities are real. The developers are already asking Mythos testers to slow down, as they can't fix everything while the model is finding new bugs.

Anthropic is only just beginning to realize that releasing Mythos to the public is too dangerous. No one has yet figured out how to protect against it.

[modest geyser]

Because im using qt so i have to use runtime polymorphism too

[subtle oasis]

Did you see this one ? that's really insane

[quiet saddle]

i dont know much about qt honestly, what are you using it for?

[viscid steppe]

Mythos is probably overhyped

[modest geyser]

Meowtooth

[viscid steppe]

And it's also gatekeeping

[subtle oasis]

She is really very good

[modest geyser]

Friend of mine complained that theres no bluetooth guis in qt for linux

So im making one its pretty usable already

[subtle oasis]

It's scary that anyone can have such neural networks for dollars i don't know

[modest geyser]

Although the code is scuffed due to me hating qt’s data structure impls

[viscid steppe]

Ain't kde has a bluetooth gui app

[modest geyser]

Pretty sure thats integrated into the tray and not usable on other desktops

[viscid steppe]

Tho kde is kinda meh on non kde desktop

I'm using one rn, kinda bad tho

Sometimes it throws some generic error code

[modest geyser]

Yea

[subtle oasis]

Am I scary? @trim geode

[viscid steppe]

And just refuse to connect

[modest geyser]

I hate dbus

Dbus is the most horrible thing

[subtle oasis]

I can delete messages

[modest geyser]

One interface returns deeply nested types

The other returns xml and i cant decide which is worse

[subtle oasis]

I'm sending just an information

[viscid steppe]

The more I'm doing object oriented programming the more i appreciate functional programming

[modest geyser]

Truth

[modest geyser]

This was the type

  QList<QMap<QString, QList<QMap<QString, QDBusVariant>>>>;

[subtle oasis]

good construction

[quiet saddle]

Oh god

[quiet saddle]

Right??

[subtle oasis]

dont be scary hehe

[modest geyser]

Yea i have no idea if it was worse than xml

[subtle oasis]

machine learning languages like assembler really good

[modest geyser]

 QDBusReply<QString> meow = inter.call("Introspect");
  QDomDocument doc("meow");
  doc.setContent(meow.value());
  std::vector<QString> devices;
  auto elements = doc.elementsByTagName("node");
  for(const auto& element : elements){
    auto a = element.toElement().attributeNode("name");
    if(a.isNull()) continue;
    if(!a.value().startsWith("dev_")) continue;
    devices.emplace_back(a.value());
  }

[subtle oasis]

meow

[modest geyser]

atleast qt has literally everything

[trim geode]

I still can't get over the fact they call it "cute"

[modest geyser]

IKR

Itll always be Kyew Tee to me

[subtle oasis]

that's a really cute

[viscid steppe]

That's basically list[dict[str, list[dict[str, QDBusVariant]]]]?

[modest geyser]

Yes

[subtle oasis]

bro you can write in on line in python do you know about it ?

just use ;

[viscid steppe]

It's a single line already

[subtle oasis]

i can write a simple discord bot in python single line

that's normal?

[viscid steppe]

And i suggest use ;; instead of just one ; xD

[quiet saddle]

i wrote a discord bot in one line of js

[subtle oasis]

❤️

[modest geyser]

NyaBot().run(TOKEN);

[viscid steppe]

-# python when it sees ;; and refuses to run

[modest geyser]

Heyy sora

[subtle oasis]

no that's like import discord; from discord.ext import commands; bot=commands.Bot(command_prefix="!", intents=discord.Intents.default()); @bot.command(); async def ping(ctx): await ctx.send("pong"); bot.run("TOKEN")

[viscid steppe]

Too long

[daring wasp]

halooo

[subtle oasis]

bruh that';s a python

what i can do ?

[quiet saddle]

actually it's all in package.json

[modest geyser]

I forgot to read your code i apologize lol

[quiet saddle]

{"name":"badge","version":"1.0.0","scripts":{"dev":"node -e \"const{Client,REST,Collection,Routes}=require('discord.js');const a='YOUR_TOKEN';const b='YOUR_CLIENT_ID';const c=new Client({intents:[1]});(async()=>{const r=new REST({version:'10'}).setToken(a);const d={type:17,components:[{type:9,components:[{type:10,content:`Congratulations, you developed a Discord bot. It may take up to 24 hours for your badge to become available.`}],accessory:{type:2,label:'Claim',style:5,url:`https://discord.com/developers/active-developer`}}]};const e={d:{name:'badge',description:`Earn your Developer Badge.`},e:async(i)=>await i.reply({components:[d],flags:32768})};await r.put(Routes.applicationCommands(b),{body:[e.d]});c.commands=new Collection().set(e.d.name,e);c.on('clientReady',async(i)=>console.log(`Connected to Discord. Logged in as ${i.user.tag}`));c.on('interactionCreate',async(i)=>i.commandName===e.d.name?await e.e(i):{});c.login(a);})();\""},"type":"commonjs","dependencies":{"discord.js":"^14.24.0"}}

[modest geyser]

Ill set brisket to remind me

[daring wasp]

technically the bot is just
import discord; discord.Client(discord.Intents.default()).run("token")

[subtle oasis]

exec('import discord\\nfrom discord import app_commands\\nTOKEN="YOUR_TOKEN"\\nclass V(discord.ui.View):\\n def __init__(self):\\n  super().__init__(timeout=None);self.add_item(discord.ui.Button(label="Claim",style=discord.ButtonStyle.link,url="https://discord.com/developers/active-developer"))\\nclass B(discord.Client):\\n def __init__(self):\\n  super().__init__(intents=discord.Intents.default());self.tree=app_commands.CommandTree(self)\\n async def setup_hook(self):\\n  await self.tree.sync();print("synced")\\nbot=B()\\[e-mail]\\nasync def on_ready():print(f"Logged in as {bot.user}")\\[e-mail](name="badge",description="Earn your Developer Badge.")\\nasync def badge(i):await i.response.send_message("Congratulations, you developed a Discord bot. It may take up to 24 hours for your badge to become available.",view=V(),ephemeral=True)\\nbot.run(TOKEN)')```

[daring wasp]

buh okk

[daring wasp]

eh?

no .js file? 😭

[quiet saddle]

the whole code is just in the package.json

https://github.com/madeline-xs/wantbadge/tree/main

[subtle oasis]

oh that's really smart

i use apple watch for this task

[daring wasp]

damn

[subtle oasis]

oh that's a really cool repository i wrriten code like this before for myself

[viscid steppe]

Dev badge removal is half a year ago 👴

[quiet saddle]

it was basically a joke i made about how easy it was to get an active developer badge

[subtle oasis]

usually i can take hypesquad badges in console discord not removed this

[modest geyser]

I still remember the chaos

[quiet saddle]

it's out of date now that the badge is gone though

[orchid bolt]

why dev badge...

[modest geyser]

#faq

[subtle oasis]

i liked this badge((

that's only one badge what i had

[viscid steppe]

The badge that anyone can get after watching a 5 minutes youtube tutorial

[subtle oasis]

i don't know discord needed rework this badge and that's just it

why deleted

[orchid bolt]

by the way, if I want to do an authenticated server on my server, do I need to register a real Steam game?

[subtle oasis]

you can just set a rule for take this badge 5+ active bots or summary of members that's it

[viscid steppe]

No matter how, badge goblins find a way

[subtle oasis]

but if you set rule for a summary members that's impossible to take

[modest geyser]

@quiet saddle its weird how with qt it frees memory automatically and you have to heap allocate everything for lifetime and you aren’t allowed to use smart pointers it annoys me because im so used to

[orchid bolt]

Should I get five badges?

[modest geyser]

Using the new operator feels like a sin because i ban it in most of my codebases

[subtle oasis]

that's a really strange

[viscid steppe]

Legacy codebase?

[modest geyser]

Yea qt is old old

[viscid steppe]

They probably too lazy to refactor

[modest geyser]

Yea probably

[viscid steppe]

Code base that old probably better be rewrite lol

[quiet saddle]

ugh that's annoying

[subtle oasis]

Qt, using new isn’t really a sin if you pass a parent. Ownership is handled through the QObject parent tree, not unique_ptr

[modest geyser]

Even though the codebase nowadays is C++17 their architecture is still old

[subtle oasis]

In normal C++, new is a sin. In Qt, it’s a religion. Just give it a parent and pray

[orchid bolt]

Can you tell me how to do an authenticated server?

[subtle oasis]

automatization ?

yeah sure you can set a bot AI who can controll all your discord server.

[patent carbon]

what type of authentication server are you trying to make?

[modest geyser]

Yep

Anyways i reallyyy need to head to sleep its almost 5am

[patent carbon]

bean water > sleep

[subtle oasis]

im too

[modest geyser]

I got told no bean water before sleep :(

[subtle oasis]

i didn't sleep for more than 30 hours

[viscid steppe]

I am still amazed how

int i { 1 };

Is valid in C++ but not C

[patent carbon]

this is good advice... i just dont feel any effect from bean water... other than it tasting good

[subtle oasis]

so guys okey i really should go to sleep

[orchid bolt]

To apply for an authenticated server, they tell me to register the game, but I don't know that.

[modest geyser]

Initializer list initialization

[modest geyser]

True although caffeine helps me focus a lot

[subtle oasis]

thanks for chatting good night

[viscid steppe]

Saw someone doing that instead of just int i = 1; really threw me off

[modest geyser]

I do it in certain cases

Also if you do int i{} it always initializes to a default value of 0

[orchid bolt]

I still don't know how to stay online when making a discord bot.

[quiet saddle]

ugh this MLS Proposal List validation logic is crazy

[modest geyser]

True

[orchid bolt]

wow

[modest geyser]

Typewitch

[viscid steppe]

That's kinda neat for that

Do you approve Python brace style in C/C++

#include <print>

int main()                          {
    std::println("hello, world")    ;
    return 0                        ;}

[modest geyser]

……NO

[quiet saddle]

oooh i dont like that at ALL

[patent carbon]

Do you know how to run the code? All you do is just don't stop running it

[orchid bolt]

oh no...

[quiet saddle]

semicolons go at the end of the line

[patent carbon]

this means, either dont turn off your computer, or rent a computer in a datacenter to run it for you 24/7

[orchid bolt]

I'm finally going to apply for an authenticated server!

[quiet saddle]

...what is that

[patent carbon]

ya... i have no idea what an authenticated server is

[viscid steppe]

They probably meant verified server

[patent carbon]

oh... ya maybe

[viscid steppe]

They talked about approve a game something

[orchid bolt]

I don't know, it's just cool..Right?

[patent carbon]

do you have a steam game published?

[orchid bolt]

But I'm going to register the game on Steam
I don't have money..

[patent carbon]

The game has to already be published and playable to apply for Game Identity

[viscid steppe]

when you are too python pilled xdd

[orchid bolt]

If the game is playable even if I put it on another site, will it work?

[patent carbon]

And it has to have enough players for the game database Discord uses to recognize it as something that can be claimed

[patent carbon]

No... only Steam right now

[orchid bolt]

Why only steam?

[modest geyser]

Atp make a macro to bring python features to C++

[patent carbon]

Because the program is new and Steam is the most popular platform for PC game listings

[orchid bolt]

When certifying that it is a "registered game" on the Discord community or developer function, you don't have to stick to Steam alone. Discord often checks for developers even when officially playable links and builds are provided through Itch.io or its own web hosting (Vercel, GitHub, etc.), so we recommend using the above platforms first to save money!
Ai said.

[modest geyser]

imagine doing
def meow(arf):
print(arf)

[patent carbon]

AI is wrong

[modest geyser]

Pretty sure you could do that macros in C++ or C23

[orchid bolt]

is gemini

[civic void]

Maybe a stupid question, but the server dedicated to it sucks.
Im using kit onl (some random website) to make commands cuz i have no coding experience. If i were to post in #1478857869960019968 about it would i get help? I dont wanna post and then get banned or something

[orchid bolt]

gogo ai

[modest geyser]

No you wouldnt you have to ask in their support server

[patent carbon]

Prerequisites Before Applying

• Your game must be on Steam, and the Steam store page must link to your Discord server.
• Your game must be playable, meaning it’s available for download and play.

https://discord.com/blog/claim-your-game

[modest geyser]

We can only really help with interacting with the raw api or the popular api wrappers

[patent carbon]

i dont care what Gemini says... it's wrong

[orchid bolt]

I'm doomed..

I live in Korea, so I don't know English very well,

I should learn it, right?

[civic void]

Ah oki oki

[patent carbon]

I can't answer that for you

[jade current]

LMAO

[civic void]

The support server for it is so dead

[orchid bolt]

OK..

I guess I'll have to use my allowance to register.

But why are you insisting only on Steam?

[patent carbon]

I am not a Discord employee... I don't control why Game Identity is only for Steam games... I just know it to be the case, at least for now

It's unfortunate for me too... as the game I work on is not planning to release on Steam

[modest geyser]

Also pretty sure the game has to be fairly popular to be recognized even

[orchid bolt]

Hmm, I'll go to the Discord headquarters.

[patent carbon]

Don't do that

[orchid bolt]

It must be a way to make money with Steam, right?

[patent carbon]

They are aware that there is interest for compatibility with non-Steam games, I have personally asked about it twice now... the team that works on the Game Identity is aware

But there is no promises, nor ETA

[orchid bolt]

wo....

[rancid apex]

"url_apiHost": "" Does anyone know where I can get this for my bot?

[patent carbon]

Get what?

The API url?

[rancid apex]

yes

[flint epoch]

API Reference

[hardy mango]

Does anyone know a good way to make a per server config that auto deletes on guild leave? Like ik u can detect guild leaving but that assumes the bot is running

[trim geode]

Just store it in a DB

[patent carbon]

Yes, the Guild Create/Delete events emit when your bot joins/leaves a server... and unless your library handles it, you might need to do some deduping to not create extra entries as Guild Create also emits when a guild goes offline and comes back, same with Guild Delete

[rancid apex]

And because my bot and those authentication bots are running, I needed to capture that information.

[patent carbon]

I don't quite understand what you mean

Capture what information?

You just asked for the API address

[dusty hearth]

Hey guys I'm looking for some developers to help me make a discord server can anyone help me please

[rancid apex]

Like, when I click to verify on another server, this appears, and when I click authorize, it will give me the role in the DC, you understand? I need that for it to work.

[patent carbon]

This is not a recruitment server

Nor is it about making discord servers

[dusty hearth]

My bad I'm just looking for help

[patent carbon]

That is OAuth. It requires you to have a domain of your own running a web server

[dusty hearth]

Don't have to snap at me

[patent carbon]

Well, it says in the rules that we don't advertise services here. There's also no such thing as a "server developer"

This is a coding server. For developers to talk about coding and related topics

[patent carbon]

Like that application owns the domain mengazo.com

That's not a Discord provided domain. That's one they purchased and run a web server on outside of Discord.

[flint epoch]

OAuth2

[patent carbon]

You can read this to learn more about what it is and how to set it up

It's fairly simple if you have made a web server before

[rancid apex]

ok

My bot is hosted on Discloud, and I can get the domain from there.

[patent carbon]

Ok. Then you will need to set up a web listener to some route on that domain. Then when users click the authorize button, Discord will redirect them there

You can then extract the callback code and exchange it for a Bearer Token using your client secret

That Bearer Token will allow you to interact with the API as/for that user

[patent carbon]

do you need something?

[mint sage]

Guys

There we go, it’s not letting me to say hi

[patent carbon]

automod says why

[mint sage]

Yea

[naive heron]

Hi everyone! I wanted to ask if it's normal for Discord to take a long time to respond to privileged intent requests. My last request was on April 27th, and Discord hasn't responded at all yet... Can anyone help me with what I can do?

[daring wasp]

yes it is normal right now people have reported taking over a month for their intent requests to be reviewed

[river rapids]

Is there anywhere here within my hero section that i could improve upon?

[glacial pasture]

i applied for intents about 3 weeks ago and still there is no response. Should I create another ticket or wait?

[patent carbon]

Don't make another one

[trim geode]

Wait,

[patent carbon]

Keep waiting. It could definitely take several more weeks

[glacial pasture]

avg waiting time period?

[patent carbon]

4-8 weeks

[glacial pasture]

ughh

[jade current]

Why is there a comma in the heading title

[patent carbon]

At least according to people who respond here

[river rapids]

To put emphasis on the second section of the text

[jade current]

You already are doing that by colorizing it

[river rapids]

It provides emphasis when you read it whole, however i may change it later as the text isn't whats important to me right now

[jade current]

Are the horizontal and vertical lines supposed to be visible

[river rapids]

Yeah, its intentional

[trim geode]

There is no guaranteed wait time for intent approval. Other devs in here said they're waiting a month or two just to get an initial response. You just need to be patient. Do not submit another ticket. No one here can speed up the process either.

If it's an absolute blocker you can disable the intents you're waiting on temporarily so that the bot can join more servers and re-enable them once (and if) you get approved.

You should take this time to really determine if you need intents as there's been multiple instances of devs applying for intents and the reasons, as they state in here, are explicitly stated as not valid reasons (prefix commands, etc).

[odd jackal]

guys how manny day to view my Request approval for Privileged Intents

[patent carbon]

we cant give an accurate estimate... but many weeks... likely within 4-8 weeks but again, no promises

[trim geode]

#dev-chat message

[odd jackal]

gad dam

i cant even use my bot offline

[patent carbon]

then find ways to disable the intents so your bot can still function

[trim geode]

See the second section of that message.

[patent carbon]

^

[trim geode]

You can disable the intents. And the bot will still be active in all the servers It just won't be able to join more

[odd jackal]

i reas the msg all of it

[odd jackal]

downgrade

[patent carbon]

I mean... if deciding between no bot and a bot without the message content intent... the former is usually better

Unless the message content is fundamental to the operation of your bot and there is absolutely no way around that

[keen depot]

how to get hypesquadevent?

i want to be collector of badge

[patent carbon]

you dont
this isnt a badge hunting server

[keen depot]

ohh i see

[trim geode]

Yessir opal badge sire

Also yeah I like grafana's interface way better than signoz's

[verbal wraith]

[patent carbon]

this becoming the grafana appreciation server? feel like everyone is setting up a grafana server recently

[trim geode]

I've used grafana in the past a bunch. I just needed to setup a self hosted one for my bots

since I don't wanna pay for grafana cloud lmao

[patent carbon]

ya paying for grafana instance for a bot seems weird

[trim geode]

well also there will be a lot of traces and metrics

and it doesn't seem reasonable for me to pay for it

[sacred oak]

i join

[verbal wraith]

Opal badge sir is only one

[daring wasp]

opal badge guy the second (opal badge guy the first is better)

[sacred oak]

badges are lame

i shouldnt even have opal anyways, i wasnt old enough to be on discord when i first bought nitro, i just never let it expire for some reason

[daring wasp]

yes, that's why I don't have any, hence im cool :p

[sacred oak]

either way this is off topic asf

badges are boring

[jade current]

Sora be having different profile picture every day

[sacred oak]

they say ts about me too

[daring wasp]

every hour*

[patent carbon]

I'm a Sir now?

[quiet saddle]

true there can only be one

[daring wasp]

uh cat?

[quiet saddle]

yes Sir

[daring wasp]

opal badge cat

[patent carbon]

Sir Opal, of Badge

[sacred oak]

i forgot i wasn't in damn discord dictionary at that point

[jade current]

Sir Opal'a'lot

[patent carbon]

It's a small village

[sacred oak]

ts pmo

ngl

[jade current]

TypeScript pisses you off?

[quiet saddle]

i love typescript

[patent carbon]

Reading gen alpha messages is hard sometimes

[sacred oak]

gen alpha is scary

[patent carbon]

Am I old?

[sacred oak]

I'm 18 (about to be 19) and I'm concerned I'm old

[patent carbon]

I was excited about plates I bought at Costco

[sacred oak]

So was I at one point

[patent carbon]

You have no idea

[rugged vector]

so u used discord while u are 10?

[sacred oak]

even younger, i have a 2015 account.

[daring wasp]

gemini isn't that bad from my use of a few days (although I don't let it generate code of course idk how good is that)

anndddd i actually don't have to upload my files to give it context because it's cli works on termux !!

[sacred oak]

it was scary

[verbal wraith]

Mods!

[patent carbon]

I mean. Hey. They're old enough now. That rule doesn't matter once you're over the age limit

[rugged vector]

how the hell im older than u, something seems off

[gloomy hound]

Bom dia

[sacred oak]

Ngl someone from Skype sent me Discord

[daring wasp]

I think I joined a few months before becoming 13 on my oldest account, though I'm obviously far older than 13 now :p

[quiet saddle]

i joined in 2016

[sacred oak]

I'm still annoyed this is my main account out of all of them

2018 just bothers me every time I look at it.

[rugged vector]

my first account was in 2021 and i was 14-15 i guess

[cerulean prairie]

can anyone share notes on bug bounty vulnerabilities

[patent carbon]

What do you mean notes?

... That's not how reporting for bug bounties work

You just report them when you find them. "Sharing notes" means the report has likely already been submitted

[cerulean prairie]

explanations or resources about security vulnerabilities commonly found in the bug bounty

[patent carbon]

Security vulnerability are not commonly found

That's why Discord pays people for reporting them

-# at least if you can explain it and reproduce it

[cerulean prairie]

bruv i know i was just asking for educational resources

[patent carbon]

https://dis.gd/security explains what areas are out of scope for the program... But you're 100% on your own for finding them

[patent carbon]

Oh. Then you're in the wrong server. This is not a whitehat hacking server. Using exploitation tools like that is really beyond the scope of this server

[rugged vector]

yapping about bug bounty just ‘cause he want bug hunter badge or hackerone’s 5000$

[cerulean prairie]

its solely for educational purposes btw

[rugged vector]

[patent carbon]

Bug bounty programs are whitehat systems. They more or less are encouraging you to find the vulnerabilities.

But it can take years to learn all the ins and outs of using those tools and learning how to attack systems like Discord and other major services

[trim geode]

And even with all that there's no guarantee you'll even get a payout depending on the severity of it and with the use of AI they're maybe less available.

[patent carbon]

I mean, especially given how good AI tools are at finding those vunerabilities. Like that Linux vulnerability that was found a bit ago that's been there for many many years

[cerulean prairie]

ye fs 😭 im obv not expecting to instantly find anything major lol. I’m just trying to learn the basics and understand the common vulnerability classes and methodologies people study for bug bounty hunting

[patent carbon]

A full administrator permission bypass vulerability

[patent carbon]

#dev-chat message

And you're asking in the wrong place. This isn't a hacking server. You're unlikely to find many people with a lot of experience in that

[trim geode]

If you're trying to learn then trying to do a bug bounty program on a full corporate like system is not the path you want to go. You should probably start at the bare minimum resources that exist how to do ethical hacking.

[patent carbon]

The Kali Linux discord server might also have good resources for that. Just given what it is

[trim geode]

https://tryhackme.com/
https://www.hackthebox.com/

Those are the ones I know of

wait is it HTB? Imma have to look

[lofty quartz]

the fragile class problem can't be that bad... right?

[trim geode]

yeah it is

[cerulean prairie]

alr appreciate it

[sacred oak]

wtf do you have the details lmao

[formal linden]

It's been over a month since I applied for intents. No response yet

[trim geode]

There is no guaranteed wait time for intent approval. Other devs in here said they're waiting a month or two just to get an initial response. You just need to be patient. Do not submit another ticket. No one here can speed up the process either.

If it's an absolute blocker you can disable the intents you're waiting on temporarily so that the bot can join more servers and re-enable them once (and if) you get approved.

You should take this time to really determine if you need intents as there's been multiple instances of devs applying for intents and the reasons, as they state in here, are explicitly stated as not valid reasons (prefix commands, etc).

[formal linden]

Okay

[full hound]

htb is web for learning hacking

[distant monolith]

hm

[distant monolith]

oh hi tux

[solid hollow]

How is everyone doing

[full hound]

fine, u?

[bleak pond]

Not good

[sick pond]

I wanted to ask i'm making a command through which i can send update messages to people in my server via mass dm but my bot gets quarantined every time what delay in seconds would be ideal so that it doesn't get quarantined?

[trim geode]

I'd implore you to reread your message and then that's the answer to your problem

"Mass DM" in particular

[dark moth]

There is no guaranteed way, its an anti spam thing and discord will never give details on that

[sick pond]

Uh

[dark moth]

Best is to just use a news channel instead

Cause what you are doing (sending mass dms to lots of users at once, ir even with a delay) is very common spam/scam bot behavior

[sick pond]

umm thank you!

[trim geode]

On top of the behavior being the problem because it's common spam behavior. Consider the user experience. Most users, sorry to say, really don't give a crap about updates in general. So all it's going to do is encourage people to either block your bot or remove it.

In reality the people who are going to care the most or actually want to know the updates are going to join a server to get the updates via the aforementioned news channel

[dark moth]

Also a problem for discord to know if the user opted in, or tried to opt out or not

[upbeat anchor]

Even dm owner on join annoyes me (esp as with decent size server, the owner isnt the kne adding the bots)

[trim geode]

That's also true. Because just installing the bot doesn't mean consent to get essentially what boils down to just advertisement

[trim geode]

Tbh I sometimes wish they were more strict in DMs for stuff exactly like this

It's actually so annoying. If you open my Mee6 DMs it's just littered with those messages for years

[upbeat anchor]

I blocked that bot for telling me I reached achievements so often

And complained to every server that had it (that i was in)

[trim geode]

Please tell me it worked

[upbeat anchor]

Yeah

[trim geode]

To get it removed

Hell yeah.

[upbeat anchor]

They were like why do we still have it

[trim geode]

That's actually insane

And really shows how dangerous it is to have bots just floating around

[undone drum]

How to create servars

Activity

[floral rapids]

I have it blocked lol, same for any annoying bot that pings me in other channels that constantly annoys me.
The only thing I can't block is sapphire since it's moderation purposes and I do want to know when I receive a warn / timeout / ban

DMing users for moderation purposes should be ok vs updates, level ups, etc which of course, is not ok since user's by default can't output/doesn't know if they can output

[trim geode]

I don't really block bots unless they're random ones people just use in here lol.

[floral rapids]

oh I block, super annoying when you receive a random level up ping in another channel (I'm fine with same channel)

literally you never know when you get a request vs a random level up ping thanks to that

[zealous gate]

exception: mee6

also these devs really aren't afraid to get their bot quarantined

[trim geode]

Because they're on exceptions from Discord for sure. Lmao. If Discord banned Mee6 it would be chaos, sadly.

Like there's zero chance they aren't on some global whitelist

[zealous gate]

they're probably on some tos whitelist too considering the crap they pulled off and didn't get any action taken upon them

whereas any normal bot would get banned

they should have removed the verification a long time ago

[upbeat anchor]

yeah discord should just add native modmail and moderation reason so bot dming members can be abolished

[zealous gate]

i think there's valid reasons for a bot dming you

[floral rapids]

Highly likely it will be abused, not worth

[rancid apex]

Does anyone know what it could be?

[zealous gate]

what would be abused

[floral rapids]

native moderation reason

[zealous gate]

how?

telling you why you were banned is pretty common

[upbeat anchor]

like if timeout could show on the bit banner blocking you, and for kick/ban for the Inbox thing to show

not sure how thats more abuseful than bots

[zealous gate]

as long as it checks if you were a member before being banned

[upbeat anchor]

yeah

i know sapphire initially didn't have that check so people abused it to send ads lol

[floral rapids]

hm

well the way I was thinking of was different

[upbeat anchor]

also the join server page could show this message too

[zealous gate]

i think the "it can be abused" is not a valid reason to dismiss a feature entirely, they should take the abuse vectors into account, but to fight them such as by adding limits or making it look visually different in the app

[wispy wind]

That must've been depressing for them

[floral rapids]

let's say user is in server, gets timed out for "Spam"

user initially isn't in the server but another one's channel speaking normally

So only way to notify user would be through the native moderation reason, which would be akin to a "DM"

from the "SERVER" not the "BOT"

[zealous gate]

i mean, not really

[floral rapids]

in a way, to let the user know they were punished because they broke a rule, OTHERWISE the user will not be made aware of this, no?

[upbeat anchor]

it could be shown in this inbox thing and the timeout thing itself (ie where it shows that you have x time left)

[zealous gate]

discord can do things the way they want, if they want it to look like a new type of notification that doesn't look like a dm they can

[floral rapids]

they can make it look like a server ping

[zealous gate]

a timeout can also just be shown until you go to the server in question

[upbeat anchor]

yeah

[floral rapids]

and a channel called "Offenses" even

or whatever

[upbeat anchor]

discord can make it way smarter than just reimplementing a normal dm

[floral rapids]

How so

I'm trying to understand this part ^

[zealous gate]

you don't get any notification of getting timed out but when you go to the server you were timed out in, the banner that replaces the chat bar will include the reason

[upbeat anchor]

yeah^

[floral rapids]

But what if the time out was expired and I never went before the timeout expired

[upbeat anchor]

it could still show one off

[zealous gate]

then you don't know, just like currently

[pearl maple]

Hi, Can anyone tell me how to make own bot for own server

[zealous gate]

do you know programming

[pearl maple]

No

[upbeat anchor]

i think discord should be more clear that the "reason" is purely for audit log rn (that deletes after 90 days unless bot copies it)

[floral rapids]

currently you do receive, if dms are enabled, a notification from bots, if you don't, :shrug:

[zealous gate]

45 days

[upbeat anchor]

oh wow its that short

[zealous gate]

that depends on the server setup, native timeouts don't send any notification

and if you have dms closed you don't get any

[pearl maple]

Can I make without phyton, program

[zealous gate]

you need to know programming to make bots

at least a little bit of it

[pearl maple]

😢

[upbeat anchor]

i know some people here want to disable dms, but can't because modmail lol... so i wish that there was a someway to do it natievly haha

[floral rapids]

there's alot of options you have:

1. JavaScript
2. TypeScript
3. Java
4. Rust
5. Python
6. C#
   etc

[zealous gate]

disabling dms from here is much more worth it than the upsides of using modmail

[upbeat anchor]

a crime to put js above ts

[zealous gate]

rust before python

[pearl maple]

I'll learn soon bro☺️

[upbeat anchor]

i mean i haven't gotten too much spam here recently

[jade current]

Python after everything else :wilted_rose:

[jade current]

Hi Tanvish

[pearl maple]

Yp

[upbeat anchor]

why would anyone use microslop c#, why not C or C++

[wispy wind]

r u demo.py (it's a person here, sorry If I'm mistaken)

[dense cairn]

Hi guy's i am new in server

[floral rapids]

I just gave examples 😭

[jade current]

I've been contaminated. I'm no longer pure Python :broken_heart:

[verbal wraith]

[wispy wind]

Contaminated with C?

[verbal wraith]

Python arc was peak

[floral rapids]

ok that was intentional

[jade current]

Nope, Java

[upbeat anchor]

literally anything > python

[floral rapids]

python doesn't deserve the hype, AE supports me on having rust on top of python

[upbeat anchor]

scratch.mid.edu > python

[wispy wind]

I got an S grade in python so that's one and the only reason i support python

[upbeat anchor]

bro what is S grade

thats so far below E

[wispy wind]

(university thing(

[upbeat anchor]

not my unis

[wispy wind]

No no, S is top 2-3
Rest A, B, C..
(In my uni)

[floral rapids]

same, and I'm also one of those that want dms disabled, altho, I'm also "using" dms, to allow to notify when for example stuff happen (winning giveaway, message made it for giveaway participation, moderation purposes, etc)

so I'm also skeptical, as many of these were requested (in a way) to know things out properly (like "when exactly am I supposed to know that I made it to a giveaway")

[upbeat anchor]

idk pinging in the server is a fine way for giveaway imo

like its the server context, so why does it need to branch out into dms

[upbeat anchor]

this is weird

[wispy wind]

understandable

[upbeat anchor]

just have the distinction scale like most unis

[floral rapids]

I do ping for giveaways, it's when someone makes it that's different

[upbeat anchor]

i kinda want discord to make it a privlidged intent, but i know that will only make it worse as the abuseful bots will get it and now think they have permission

sidenote but i can see im not banning as many people anymore coz i havent gotten that error of opening dms too fast in a while

Error with InteractionCreate handler: HTTPError
but i do get other fun stuff

[floral rapids]

E.g: Your first valid message earned you a ticket for this giveaway: <link here to the giveaway>

[wispy wind]

We have relative grading. They use some class avg, standard deviation something something. Idk

also let's leave this ig. Kinda getting out of topic

[upbeat anchor]

Failed to send intro message: DiscordAPIError[50001]: Missing Access
i also dont know how i loose access to a channel i just made so fast

[upbeat anchor]

oh no

[floral rapids]

or when someone wins a giveaway too they do want to know that it happened, unfortunately I haven't find a way to do it properly ON SERVER yet without it messing around with my style

[floral rapids]

yea, if you look at what I do, a lot of things are just questionable, even I do say those myself, but I do want to keep the goal & style I've been working on

[narrow crypt]

Can someone help me get code to join a bot to voice chanell and disconnect bot of voice chanell?

[floral rapids]

I'm trying to improve them, slowly.. but surely

[narrow crypt]

An the coding app

Can someone get me coding app?

[upbeat anchor]

tbf i keep on debating removing dming from my bot (or making it optin) as uhhh, i dont wana be banned from discord lol

[narrow crypt]

@stiff turtle

Pls get me coding app

[floral rapids]

how exactly will you notify the soft banned user though that they got kicked from the server 🥀

[narrow crypt]

Thank

[upbeat anchor]

by not 😭

enough people disable it anyway lol

ok only 700/10k

[floral rapids]

some don't, managed to get the attention of some people by notifying them that their account had been compromised (through dm, they received a notification)

[upbeat anchor]

W

[floral rapids]

It's a big W for me to keep if it notifies them about it

[native pilot]

never heard of this

[upbeat anchor]

but yeah thats why im going to try and keep it

as i know how confusing it is to just not be able to see a server you thought you were apart of

and not be told "you" spammed everywhere

[floral rapids]

max you can just ask advaith to help you out with your bot and he ignores you because it's not his job 😎

[upbeat anchor]

oh woah, what do you guys use

[native pilot]

A B C D F

[upbeat anchor]

oh at school we used that

[native pilot]

pretty sure every university in america uses it too

[floral rapids]

can we stick to 0-20 or 100 if English and not letters 🥀

[upbeat anchor]

i dont like this distinction scale as it makes me sad when i see D (as i think i failed)

[upbeat anchor]

0-20 is criminal

[floral rapids]

French education, blame them

[upbeat anchor]

at least with 0-100 you can easily calculate da %

and if an assessment is 20% weighting, you knowwww how much its easily going to add

[upbeat anchor]

btw did you guys enjoy that canvas hacking

[floral rapids]

just x5 the amount you received and then do the % if you want (from 20)

[native pilot]

some of my hw got extended by a few days

[upbeat anchor]

W

also same - my uni was also nice and quickly changed the dns records to redirect to their own faq page

[upbeat anchor]

sounds like alota effort for something that could have just been cool to begin with :)

but yeah at least its not like out of 15.5 as that would be funny

[floral rapids]

uhh

I'll run then, I do remember doing a test which was out of 5.5

[upbeat anchor]

ahhh

[peak halo]

we can also do 0 to 15.625 - just x6.4

[bitter inlet]

omg my intents request got left on seen

good sign?

[peak halo]

maybe, maybe not

[bitter inlet]

😭 welp

[olive depot]

Wdym seen on left

[peak halo]

left and right

[olive depot]

How'd you know they saw it

[bitter inlet]

prolly if it shows "last activity" as 13 hours ago?

[upbeat anchor]

when did you submit it?

[olive depot]

Its showing in support tickets?

[bitter inlet]

8 days ago

[dark moth]

Last activity doesn't mean they did anything really

[olive depot]

Where did you submitted from? Dev portal or manually

[bitter inlet]

Yup

[peak halo]

yeah then it definitely ain't them reviewing it

people these days wait like over a month

[bitter inlet]

I did it on dev portal and then sent a request a day later because I thought it's like before

[dark moth]

Could be just someone looking at tickets to cleanup duplicates or ones with missing info

[bitter inlet]

sad 😔

[bitter inlet]

Saw that too

[dark moth]

The ticket you made manually doesn't help in any way

Its basically just spam

[bitter inlet]

Welp, i guess so

[dark moth]

The dev portal one will show up once they reply

The manual one will just be closed as duplicate at some point or get a generic "we'll reply when we get to it in the queue" response

[bitter inlet]

Makes sense I guess

Enough discord for me today

healthy lifestyle

cya

[dense cairn]

@dark moth hi bro how's the day 😌

[verbal wraith]

[glass silo]

What is it with devs and creeps/weird (some really creepy) people lmao

I guess devs really don't have social skills

[verbal wraith]

I can confirm

[zealous gate]

why are you exposing us like this

[fathom pilot]

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

[glass silo]

@upbeat anchor I assume honeypot bans twice to delete the messages?

Hmmm, it would be nice to have another option to "Softban but not delete any messages other than the one sent in the honeypot channel" or maybe not even ban but kick at that point as you only need to delete ~1 message?

[upbeat anchor]

im yet to know if the 10sec later one is helping

context is https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/issues/8360

[glass silo]

Ya saw that

[upbeat anchor]

whats the point of that

[glass silo]

But can't you check the messages using the search endpoint or something before deciding to ban

[upbeat anchor]

just setup automod to ignore every other channel and give timeout

[upbeat anchor]

thats at least a min delayed at best

[glass silo]

Accidental messages

[upbeat anchor]

• prob insaine ratelimits

[upbeat anchor]

generally from what ive seen is even if honeypot channel is first, its not a very high garentee that its actually the first hit

so feels weird if the messages still need o be manually cleaned up

and with my 100 events per sec rn, i dont want to deal with manually doing this cache (+ getting pain of actually deleting across many channels)

esp ones that i dont have access to see

[glass silo]

Fair

I just got one where it sent the message in 2 completely random and dead channels + the pot

Which means the author of that just randomised it ig

[upbeat anchor]

yeah

i do find it weird they aren't ordering by age or watching a few mins to see activity

[verbal wraith]

In this case unpredictability is probably better

[olive depot]

Why bots even send message if the channel literally says honeypot / do not send message here 🤔

dumb bots 🤦

[verbal wraith]

I don't think they log on what channel they send messages. They are probably not even aware of such channel existing

[floral rapids]

it depends

iirc small servers yes they don't care, on bigger servers found out they do ignore some people/channels

[upbeat anchor]

its proof we sont have agi yet

[olive depot]

i added emojis for a purpose

[glass silo]

Mine doesn't say that..

[civic heron]

How do I make my bot online?

[peak halo]

run the code

[civic heron]

how

I didn't do anything to the bot at all, I just created it from the developer portal.

[peak halo]

Then write the code

[glass silo]

Just connect to the gateway

[peak halo]

Either by using a library (discord API wrapper) or by making your own

[glass silo]

https://docs.discord.com/developers/events/gateway#connection-lifecycle graph

[civic heron]

How to create a private library

[peak halo]

read the docs, write the code

docs linked above

[glass silo]

You generally don't want that lol

[upbeat anchor]

uhmmm, that is something

[glass silo]

Libraries handle ratelimits and stuff for you as required

[glass silo]

[verbal wraith]

https://tenor.com/btwmH.gif

[modest geyser]

One server has their as pot talk

[upbeat anchor]

nice

[modest geyser]

And anothe one as general-chat

[upbeat anchor]

not nice

[glass silo]

Lmaooo

How many false bans did that get

[verbal wraith]

join server
see general chat
what a funny message, anyways hi guys
where is that server?

[modest minnow]

Am here

[verbal wraith]

Good

[modest minnow]

Sir can I ask questions

[verbal wraith]

Yes you can

[modest minnow]

Can you help me to communicate with highest here need to be somali helper

[dark moth]

that's not a thing, we don't have helpers on this server. if you mean working at discord then see their jobs page for open positions and requirements

[modest geyser]

Morning AE any interesting scams?

[dark moth]

not really, they do be boring

[modest minnow]

Ok sir but I have more somali company need help need to connect there and discord

[dark moth]

contact support i guess

but discord doesn't do live chat support

[modest geyser]

True

[modest minnow]

@dark moth where I applied the jops sir

[dark moth]

on the discord site

[modest minnow]

Can you shere me pls

[dark moth]

its the first result on google, and in every footer

[sinful storm]

Yooo I have a question like your Badges is there any badge from it you can still get today?

I really want some cool badges

[polar viper]

not the place

[olive depot]

Expected from a grown sheep

And why tf it's showing edited above the container

Or it always shows there?

[buoyant drift]

@buoyant drift

[lean yarrow]

is anyone here familiar with activities?

i need help

[olive depot]

just ask the question

[glad stratus]

@glad stratus

[olive depot]

Better in #activities-dev-chat

[lean yarrow]

do i just ask there then?

[olive depot]

yeah

[lean yarrow]

thanks

[verbal wraith]

Mobile shenanigans

It display below on pc but above on mobile

[olive depot]

Its not even showing edited for me

[verbal wraith]

[glass silo]

Maybe only if the container is edited?

[verbal wraith]

I mean, does it matter for the bots? It could not display edited and it would be just fine

<@&1050493473033289778>

[daring wasp]

hmm I'm keeping my cache customizable
what should I set the defaults for these values :p

[daring wasp]

these too :p

[verbal wraith]

Wrong server, go ask on polish servers instead

[fervent night]

BUT IT'S HARROWFUL ON YOUR SIDE IT'S NOT WORTH BEING IN YOUR COMMUNITY AS YOU ONLY THINK ABOUT COMPUTERS

[olive depot]

Wdym "only if", it literally edited

[dark moth]

that's what this community is about. we can't verify every charity that people wana post here is legit or not, and it doesn't even have any overlap with this server at all

[fervent night]

WHAT I GAVE IS LEGAL AND EVEN APPROVED BY THE PORTAL AND IS SHOWN ON EVERY POLISH TELEVISION AND EVEN ON SOME ABROAD

[glass silo]

Quit the caps lmao

[fervent night]

sorry

[dark moth]

no need to shout, and again: it doesn't belong here

this isn't a general server

[daring wasp]

prolly a better question for forums ig

[olive depot]

Sora can we help you decide your pfp

STOP changing it 🫤

[dark moth]

if they wana change it they absolutely can

[queen lake]

Happy afternoon!

[daring wasp]

nuh uh >:(

[upbeat anchor]

imagine thinking an image gen app will be static and not want to generate new art

[daring wasp]

im SoraAI fr

[native pilot]

sora shut down tho

[verbal wraith]

Not for us

We have our personal one

[upbeat anchor]

i think that was an excuse, the real thing is sora became sentient and left the computer realm and decided not to work for oai anymore and be a person

[verbal wraith]

And decided to make their own discord library

[upbeat anchor]

yeah

[verbal wraith]

This is exactly the kind of AI I didn't do anything for

[daring wasp]

wdym

[tardy fern]

<@&1050493473033289778>

Where to report a discord bug?

[dark moth]

not by pinging us, see https://dis.gd/bugs

[tardy fern]

okk thks

[orchid bolt]

Everyone, some bot suddenly logged in and broke my server..

[boreal coral]

is the discord employee flag no longer considered a public flag?

[orchid bolt]

How should I send this out?

[olive depot]

Define "broke"

[dark moth]

!report

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. To make a report to the Trust and Safety team, please use the in app reporting tool. For more information see this help article.

[dark moth]

never has been, they have been able to hide it from non employees for many years now

[boreal coral]

1 << 0 STAFF Discord Employee
i think im stupid then lolz, i could swear that this was a public flag

[dark moth]

its in the public flags sure

but they have a toggle that hides it from you

[shell heath]

I create a amazing bot like a automod

[verbal wraith]

Nice

[dark moth]

as such you only see it when they want you to

also trying to track employees generally is more creepy and stalking then actually for a good reason. so maybe don't do that

[boreal coral]

AH

[boreal coral]

its just bcs my /user shows badges 😭

[dark moth]

cause it's generally completely irrelevant if they are or not

[hardy peak]

New gaming pc lol

[olive depot]

they'll rarely run it for a staff

[boreal coral]

i kinda used it to show who advaith was bcs some1 was asking

[olive depot]

Damn who don't know advaith

Clearly his fault

[boreal coral]

lowkey

[verbal wraith]

smh my head

[pale hull]

Lil blob

[verbal wraith]

[hollow raft]

Let me in shonen unleashed

[tired obsidian]

I mean, if you don't know advaith do you even Discord, bro?

[warm cloud]

is it even possible to get message intents anymore

[pale hull]

Yeah

[tired obsidian]

Sure, if you have a valid use case

But "prefix" commands is not a valid use case

[pale hull]

Or are under 100 servers

[warm cloud]

i wrote a bibble

[olive depot]

you?

[warm cloud]

i need 100+

[tired obsidian]

What's your use case for the intent?

[pale hull]

The candy popcorn from iCarly or smth

[warm cloud]

i need to remove inactive servers every day

it’s annoying

[tired obsidian]

That doesn't need the message content intent

[warm cloud]

i need it

[olive depot]

For what

[tired obsidian]

The message content intent gives you the content of messages. You don't need the content. The bot still gets the MESSAGE_CREATE event

[pale hull]

What is a bibble

[viscid steppe]

you still receive neww message event, you just don't have the content

[hollow raft]

Can you guys unban me from shonen unleashed

[olive depot]

No

[warm cloud]

automod aureaponse afk

[tired obsidian]

No, that server has nothing to do with this one

[warm cloud]

all the stuff

[olive depot]

So why would you mention bible here 🤦

[hollow raft]

Can you tell the higher ups to unban me from the server

[olive depot]

Autoresponder seems valid usecase though

[tired obsidian]

Discord has built-in automod now, see if that works. I have no idea what "aureaponse" is, nor does "afk" have anything to do with message content

[warm cloud]

it is in context of writing a big text

[tired obsidian]

Again, that server has nothing to do with this one, so no

[olive depot]

Which doesn't require intent

[warm cloud]

bro in the application i write much

that what i mean

[tired obsidian]

It's not, though. If someone wants the bot to respond they should @-mention it. Bots get all content when mentioned

[pale hull]

Or just use slash commands

[tired obsidian]

Well, yeah. But apparently the userbase for this bot isn't smart enough for that :p

[warm cloud]

if sb write hey i need help the bit will say omg how can i help and this for much other stuff

[tired obsidian]

If someone writes, "I need help" the community can do the same thing

[warm cloud]

so it needs the mag

[olive depot]

"where's the avenue", bot replying auto is better than expecting user to randomly know he need to run a slash command or mention a specific bot

[tired obsidian]

You want the intent, but that's not a valid use case

[tardy fern]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[olive depot]

Stopp

[tardy fern]

i wanna report soething and report page not working

[dark moth]

?

!report

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[dark moth]

we don't deal with tns reports, we don't work for discord

[warm cloud]

if i need the content of a msg i need the intent

[tardy fern]

I wanna report bug

[tired obsidian]

Just b/c the functionality requires it doesn't make it a valid use case

[olive depot]

"you need" for a invalid usecase

[dark moth]

for bugs contact support

[tired obsidian]

Auto-response has been denied in the past so I doubt you'll get it

[warm cloud]

what should be a valid usecase

[tardy fern]

i cant sign in

[dark moth]

read the help article, you need to make an account

[tired obsidian]

That's not how it works. Intents aren't Pokémon: you don't actually need 'em all :p

There are work-arounds, use them

[warm cloud]

that’s bad lol

[tired obsidian]

That's not bad, that's good, actually

[olive depot]

Source? I mean i wanna know who did applied, when and what exactly he described

[warm cloud]

why

[tired obsidian]

The message content intent is a huge security risk

[tardy fern]

thnks

[tired obsidian]

Do a search for "auto reply" and see what comes up. I don't remember everything

[foggy fox]

Guys I want source code bot system for free

[tired obsidian]

Congrats. That's not what this server is for, however

[verbal wraith]

Check github

[pale hull]

There are plenty on github

[tired obsidian]

If you're gonna run someone else's code, why not just use their bot?

[verbal wraith]

I prefer my 99% uptime than someone's 98%

[olive depot]

Or Branding

[tired obsidian]

So you don't use Github then? 🤣

[verbal wraith]

Indeed

[foggy fox]

Can you send it to me privately?

[tired obsidian]

https://github.com

[foggy fox]

Tnx u ❤️ ❤️

[verbal wraith]

There was moment when my IP was constantly rate limited so I pretty much stopped using github at all

[warm cloud]

An IFTTT-style Automations engine with message_contains_any / all / none
msg log with deleted images
,snipe command ,editsnipe command
would this be reasons to get approved

[tired obsidian]

Probably not. Snipe commands sounds mean/bad

[verbal wraith]

Not for "snipe" commands for sure

[tired obsidian]

And IFTTT-style anything isn't a valid use case

If you want t he bot to know something, use a freakin' slash command. That's what they're for

[warm cloud]

it just shows the last deleted msg in the channel

[tired obsidian]

Have you considered that deleted messages are deleted for a reason? :p

[warm cloud]

IT NEEDS TO READ THE MSGS BEFORE THE COMMAND IS USED

[viscid steppe]

what if someone accidentally sent their credential?

someone can just snipe it

[verbal wraith]

Imagine someone leaked their private info, mod deleted message and someone use snipe command to get it anyways

[tired obsidian]

No it doesn't. Use a slash command and that gives the bot all the data it needs

[warm cloud]

the mods can use clearsnipe

[winged swan]

real

what if they are not there

[warm cloud]

everyone can use the command

[viscid steppe]

yeah let's create more problem for the moderators

[silk iris]

<@&1050493473033289778> Bro I need help

[dark moth]

???

what is it with everyone pinging us today without any info?

[winged swan]

🥀

[verbal wraith]

That has to be m-a pings record

[dark moth]

we are not mind readers, and please only ping us for matters related to the moderation of this server

[tired obsidian]

Server mods can change who can and can't use specific commands

[warm cloud]

only the server owner and whitelisted admins

[tired obsidian]

Correct. And the bot owner, of couse. You can ban anyone from using your bot if you wanted :p

Not sure why/how that's a problem, though

Administering a server is kinda what server admins are for, right?

[warm cloud]

every admin is afk

normally

and playing valoeanrant

[viscid steppe]

then as said who would do the clearsnipe

[warm cloud]

everyone can use it in my bot

[tired obsidian]

I still don't see what the problem is. The admins should be setting up bots when they're added to the server. Why would an admin add a random bot to their server and not set it up properly?

I'm very much confused as to what your bot does and why you don't want people to use it

[viscid steppe]

but you said mods can do before?

[warm cloud]

where i said it

[viscid steppe]

if everyone can just clearsnipe why would it exist in the first place

[warm cloud]

if it is allowed for everyone everyone can use if not not

[tired obsidian]

here ☝️

[viscid steppe]

to let people who are not familiar with the bot get their accidentally sent message be sniped?

[daring wasp]

not sure why even have snipe in the first place :p

[tired obsidian]

So what is it that the bot does? What's the target audience?

[verbal wraith]

For fun I guess

[warm cloud]

chill / community servers it’s like a all in one bot

[viscid steppe]

kitchen sink bot mentioned

[verbal wraith]

Kitchen sink bot detected!

[tired obsidian]

🍸

between this and the constant mod pings I'm halfway to filling my bingo card!

[floral prism]

Should I use WPF to make desktop applications using C++

[warm cloud]

trust me next bleed bot

[verbal wraith]

🤫

[viscid steppe]

"with .NET"

[floral prism]

What's the problem

[viscid steppe]

you are talking about C++ right?

.NET is a C# runtime

[tired obsidian]

🙊

[warm cloud]

@tired obsidian hope dc finally remove the slash commands

🙈

[hardy valve]

Hello to everyone i want to start a dev career but I don't know from mwhere to start , I can build apps with AI even website and automation from scratch to deploy live but I want to learn clear html CSS JavaScript react next.js python and more I don't know from where to start i find out the scimba what do you think is it worth it or no?

[tired obsidian]

Considering they are objectively better than the hack of "prefix" commands and are not a massive privacy issue…I doubt it

[warm cloud]

ok what’s about “spam bots” and every big server turned off slash commands

[hardy valve]

If there is and web dev or senior developer i will be happy to help me on what I need to learn and how to find my first job , thanks

[warm cloud]

bc of self apps

[tired obsidian]

Start with learning HTML and CSS. Make static sites. Then learn JS to add interactivity to them.

For backend choose one language. Then learn it. Read the docs. Write code. Don't use AI since it makes up stuff

[wide meteor]

@obsidian sentinel i needa talk to mod pld

[dark moth]

!report

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[tired obsidian]

OK, what about you stop pinging me for stupid stuff, yeah?

[warm cloud]

😳

[viscid steppe]

then just turn off the permission?

[dark moth]

this server is big, we don't have them off

[wide meteor]

!report

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[viscid steppe]

search "Use external apps" and turn it off if you don't want to deal with user apps

[warm cloud]

it’s not a community server

[wide meteor]

someone 18- is caught e-dating

[warm cloud]

ok how ppl will use my bot

[dark moth]

read the bot link on how to file a report

[wide meteor]

ok

[viscid steppe]

if your app is installed in the server that permission does nothing

[warm cloud]

i mean servers with vcs and chill servers

[warm cloud]

you don’t understand 😭

[verbal wraith]

We are chill

[dark moth]

many turned it off, others have it on. its just a matter of what moderation tools they got

[viscid steppe]

you don't make sense, to be able to read server messages the bot is installed in the server

that's what your bot current problem

and the permission is for external apps

[warm cloud]

on my (136k members) i fully turned it bc every day there are kids with “spam tools” so i can’t use bots with slash commands for my community

[dark moth]

you can have or make bots that deal with that, or your server mods

also user installed bots and guild installed bots are completely separate things

[frigid ferry]

Those are two separate permissions.
Use Application Commands is for bots your admins actually invited to the server. (The 'spam tools' are not affected by this permission)
Use External App is for bots that are not a member of your server.

[tired obsidian]

If you don't want user-installed bots used in your server then turn off their access to them. That doesn't mean you have to turn off all slash commands. That's like banning all automobiles because some people don't stop at stop signs

[warm cloud]

if you have a active server ppl want the games in vcs so it needs use external apps

[viscid steppe]

then this ^

[warm cloud]

name me one public trusted bot

didn’t find one

[viscid steppe]

"or make"

[warm cloud]

the msg are not detected by any anti spam or sth

[warm cloud]

how should i test it

if it works

[pale hull]

Then only allow user apps in those channels

[viscid steppe]

you are already facing the problem

tell me how you would test it

[pale hull]

I don't understand how this relates to slash commands at all tho

[viscid steppe]

the most "damage" external apps could do is flood the channel

[warm cloud]

the ppl use them in their menu

[warm cloud]

ppl get spam pinged its like a everyone ping

on 130k members

it is annoying

[pale hull]

Then turn them off. You can't have both sides.

[warm cloud]

i made a system only active user can use them but it shouldn’t be it

[viscid steppe]

you didn't copy the whole thing

[molten perch]

can someone help me?

[warm cloud]

in

[viscid steppe]

yeah usually server this large would have community on so people can't ping everyone
or just turn the whole permission off if you don't want community

[bronze pawn]

what do you need?

[molten perch]

dm

[warm cloud]

these are “spam tools” they ping every minute thousands of users

[pale hull]

Just ask in public channels

[dark moth]

don't try to pull people into dms

[molten perch]

ok

[verbal wraith]

Thanks fontawesome

[dark moth]

who needs styling?

[viscid steppe]

yeah, read the whole thing again

[verbal wraith]

Idk, I just clicked to find out

[frigid ferry]

If you want to allow certain things, you need to moderate it.
Whether that is everyone pings, role pings, slash commands from bots you added to the server, or allowing external apps.

At this juncture I am not particularly sure what your argument even is anymore.

Neither slash command permissions or message content intent would prevent the users from being pinged to begin with. The only way to prevent 130k users being pinged, is to not allow it in the first place by disabling the permission or using AutoMod.

[verbal wraith]

Guess it's not for me

[warm cloud]

if i can’t get message intents my server can’t use the bot

so that’s why i need

[bronze pawn]

sent

[pale hull]