dev-chat

[jade current]

Ah, then why not t-string it

[daring wasp]

whats that

[jade current]

Template string

[daring wasp]

3.14 feature :p

[jade current]

Yuh

[daring wasp]

i cant use 3.14

yet*

termux no support properly

[jade current]

Fair

[spice tinsel]

Hey guys, someone confessed to me that they accidentally sent me a ticket on Discord, and that it wasn't me, and they don't know how to send another one to clarify that it wasn't me.

[tired obsidian]

It's a scam

See #safety

[onyx ingot]

How do you even make bots that let you play like applications..

[ashen zinc]

Uh oh

[ashen zinc]

Marco

[onyx ingot]

Polo

[tired obsidian]

https://docs.discord.com/developers/activities/overview

[onyx ingot]

[lone anvil]

whoops

(was using beta changes of an api so i didnt commit it to prod and this happened)

[solemn epoch]

I need a suggestion on whether I should use prefix commands for a ModMail bot or a hybrid prefix + slash.

[lone anvil]

i'd go slash

i mean
i'd go slash for any command tbh

it is after all the officially supported thing

[solemn epoch]

Could you elaborate on the reason behind it? The majority of the ModMail bots I've seen so far use prefix commands, which makes me wonder which one I should use.

[lone anvil]

but i think using a prefix is fine as well
the problem with prefixes is that a lot of bots use it and if you have the same command name as others you gotta make them assign a unique prefix...

[winged swan]

static inline char **
split_by_spacing(Arena *arena, char *string, size_t *count)
{
    if (!string) {
        return NULL;
    }

    size_t length;
    size_t slots;
    if (!count_length_and_spaces(string, &length, &slots)) {
        return NULL;
    }
    
    char **split = arena_malloc(arena, slots * sizeof(char *));
    if (split == NULL) {
        return NULL;
    }

    char *curr_string = NULL;
    size_t splitted = 0;
    for (size_t i = 0, j = 0; i < length + 1; i++) {
        if (string[i] == ' ' || string[i] == '\0') {
            size_t curr_str_len = i - j;
            curr_string = arena_malloc(arena, curr_str_len + 1);
            if (curr_string == NULL) {
                goto error;
            }
            memcpy(curr_string, string + j, curr_str_len);
            if (string[i] != '\0') {
                curr_string[curr_str_len] = '\0';
            }
            split[splitted] = curr_string;
            splitted++;
            j = i + 1;
        }
    }

    *count = slots;
    return split;

error:
    return NULL;
}
```spent way to long debuggin ts

oops that's a bit long

[tired obsidian]

Niether. Just use slash commands. There is almost no benefit to prefix commands

[lone anvil]

jumpscare

[solemn epoch]

For reply as well?

[daring wasp]

what lang is rhis

[winged swan]

C

[deft birch]

who's the best

it's me

[jade current]

Prefix commands aren't valid use-cases for the message content intent

[solemn epoch]

Even ModMail in this server seems to use prefix commands only!😆

[tired obsidian]

Yes, for all. There are very few and far-between legit reasons to use prefix commands

[winged swan]

i malloced the number of spaces, not the number of slots needed 🤦‍♂️

[deft birch]

prefix commands are the best

[winged swan]

so I ended up having UB

[tired obsidian]

Prefix commands are bad

[plucky pendant]

What's the limit of components in a componentsv2 message?

[tired obsidian]

That's not how it works. To "use" modmail you DM it

[daring wasp]

there is no reason why they are better than slash

[solemn epoch]

That's kind of true, particularly sync command should be a prefix.

[winged swan]

40

[jade current]

No

[lone anvil]

why?

[lone anvil]

no

[solemn epoch]

Yeah, we do. But to set it up, either we hardcode things or use commands to set up it up.

[tired obsidian]

Sync commands should be a server-specific slash command 😉

[deft birch]

there is a reason not every server allows the normal users to use slash commands

[jade current]

What

[tired obsidian]

Uhh…what?

[daring wasp]

thats just server owners preferring prefix over slash

[lone anvil]

because they're too lazy to set which ones should be allowed and which ones are not or prefix preferrers

[daring wasp]

cuz theyve never used them

[jade current]

This is gonna be one of those convo again

[solemn epoch]

I tried that as well, but a lot of time slash commands don't sync, which then synced with the help of a prefix command.

[tired obsidian]

It's one person (or one team) imposing bad practice on their entire server b/c they fear change 🤷

[tired obsidian]

Slash commands sync almost instantly. It's been that way for years. Heck, even in the beginning server-specific commands synced instantly

[daring wasp]

and that propogates so most users never end up using slash either

[tired obsidian]

Exactly. Bad people preferring bad practices encouraging others to not know better options exist. Sadge

[deft birch]

yeah and then they kick our bot from their servers just cause of that reason

[tired obsidian]

If they don't want to use slash commands I don't want them using my bot 🤷

[jade current]

2% (random number, but makes it look cool) of servers don't use slash commands. prefix commands must be better D:

[tired obsidian]

It's not on you to encourage bad practices

[deft birch]

too much work for the users

[daring wasp]

yes, but as i said that doesnt make slash commands better, its just that server owners are too lazy

[tired obsidian]

If properly securing a server is too much work they shouldn't be running one 🤷

[solemn epoch]

Thanks for the suggestion, chat. I feel like I'll be going with the hybrid approach for now.

[daring wasp]

prefix commands are not supported by discord and after 100 servers you have to verify if your bot uses message intent only for prefix commands then itll never be verified unless you have another valid reason

[tired obsidian]

Be sure that if you do that your "prefix" is the bot's @-mention. You won't get the message content intent to use prefix commands

[lone anvil]

🤔 It's a one-time setup unless you decide to wipe settings for that server
That is within a server owner's job in my opinion

[deft birch]

i don't want my users to work harder

[solemn epoch]

Tysm!

[tired obsidian]

☝️

[deft birch]

well I already have that

[tired obsidian]

Sure thing! Best of luck 👍

[jade current]

That's an odd reasoning (and awful evidence even) to state that "slash commands are bad"

[tired obsidian]

At least with interactions the server moderators/admins can decide who can use what command. text commands don't have that option

[deft birch]

slash commands aren't bad but u see most of the popular bots still use prefix commands

[jade current]

That still don't even justify it

[tired obsidian]

That's b/c most of the "popular" bots are older than slash commands. So they've been using prefix commands b/c that was all there was

[patent carbon]

Most old bots. Because they have them for legacy reasons

[tired obsidian]

But "other people are using bad practices" isn't a good reason for you to do the same 🤷

[jade current]

They weren't verified like yesterday lmao

[patent carbon]

Slash commands are the new, and objectively better way

[deft birch]

well my bot is kinda old too

2021

but not that popular

[patent carbon]

And that's a decent reason to have prefix commands imo

Anything made after 2022-23 should be using Slash commands pretty much exclusively

[tired obsidian]

That's still newer than slash commands

[lone anvil]

not a reason to support slash commands and slowly start dropping prefix commands

[tired obsidian]

Slash commands have been here since December, 15 2020

[deft birch]

still I prefer prefix commands

easier than slash

[glass vortex]

My bot still has prefix commands. But most features also work as slashcommand by now. Those that don't are so niche that I'd probably scratch the feature instead

[tired obsidian]

Slash commands are better. That's the only reason you should need to support them. Prefix commands are bad. That's the only reason you should need to not use them

[glass vortex]

Easier in what way?

[tired obsidian]

That's a personal opinion and not a reason to avoid the objectively better UX/DX of slash commands

[deft birch]

for the people

[tired obsidian]

Easier for the dev to remember all the params and the correct order

[tired obsidian]

🤣

[lone anvil]

for the people of the republic of Discord ?
I think your people are ready to use slash commands

[glass vortex]

What people? What is easier about them? Native documentation? Option type validation? Native select menus for user/channel values?

[jade current]

Can your prefix commands have autocomplete/choices

[tired obsidian]

Slash commands tell you what params they have, what data type the expect, and which are required or optional. Prefix commands…yell at you for getting it wrong?

[deft birch]

do u own a bot?

[tired obsidian]

Several, yes

More than a couple, fewer than a lot

[jade current]

How a lot is a lot

[deft birch]

is your bot popular?

[tired obsidian]

Look at my dice rolling bot! It tells you what you need to give it to work

[tired obsidian]

Popular in the right spaces, yes

[glass vortex]

How can your account be newer than the bot you own 🤔

[upbeat anchor]

i want a d100k

[lone anvil]

prefix commands:
$command
reply: you're missing param 1 param 2 param 3
(or $help i guess)
$command param 1 param 2 param 3
reply ✅

Slash commands:
/command (shows which params you need so you can put param 1 param 2 param 3 on first run)
reply ✅

[jade current]

Can I have a d0

[tired obsidian]

I find it funny that people think popular is the same as good 🙄

[deft birch]

i have multiple accounts

search ofira on google u will see

[jade current]

Nah

[tired obsidian]

Sorry, D6 Games bot is only for rolling D6s, since that's the only dice the D6 Second Edition TTRPG uses

[upbeat anchor]

change the rules of da game then

[tired obsidian]

I don't own the license, so I can't

Also, the game is called D6…why would it not use d6s?

[jade current]

Now that I think about it, I read "three-sided pyramid(? polygon?)" somewhere

[tired obsidian]

Pyramids are 3d shapes with 4 points

https://tenor.com/btoyy.gif

[jade current]

What if you use 2 d3s

[tired obsidian]

Ignore the weird face. That's a d4

[lone anvil]

wait what does a d3 look like

[tired obsidian]

Usually it's a d6 with 1, 2, and 3 twice

[tired obsidian]

2d3 has a completely different distribution to 1d6

[deft birch]

can we talk to our bot in vc?

[deft birch]

like if we tell the bot to play a song then it will start playing a song

[tired obsidian]

You won't find much help with music bots here, as almost all of them break the law (which is against Discord ToS, too :p)

[visual sphinx]

Hey y’all I am making a dashboard and I am wondering how I should make the pages layout, should I have a page for each feature, or put a bunch of features in one pages for that specific category with collapsible folders for each feature?

[deft birch]

oh that's sad

[jade current]

Makes sense. Also what're those ( #.## / #.## ) on the right side

[deft birch]

dedicated page for each feature

[visual sphinx]

I mean I could do hybrid, people seem to have different opinions

[lone anvil]

i think you could do that (use whisper or whatever) but you do need rights to use those tracks

[vernal merlin]

Unless you create your own media server… “own media”

[tired obsidian]

That doesn't change anything at all

Creating a media server still needs music. And most people can't afford the license to play popular music

[glass vortex]

Unless you create your own media server

[tired obsidian]

The first number is the average result. The second is the standard deviation

[visual sphinx]

Most popular music bots have a license

[lone anvil]

👈

[verbal wraith]

What is wrong with this text. Why is it so stretched

[visual sphinx]

Style

[verbal wraith]

That looks weird. Also the fact that lower cards are not aligned with the upper cards on the right side also looks weird imo

[visual sphinx]

Yeah, I’ll fix those, I was thinking of that.

[vernal merlin]

Correct, but never said it was regarding using external media…

[tired obsidian]

I said most bots break the law. You said, "unless you create your own media server…". Which is false. Unless it's your media

[verbal wraith]

Entire nexa forge veritas active part on the sidebar can also be removed imo. It gives no purpose and removing it will give more space on the sidebar for future tabs/buttons

[vernal merlin]

”Your own media”

[visual sphinx]

Yeah, I can do that, I already have it on the top anyways

[tired obsidian]

Yes, if it's your own media that you made. But your words were "your own media server" which I read as "a media server you own" not "a media server with media you made"

One of the many issues with fully text-based interaction platforms

[spice tinsel]

Hey guys, how are you? I hope you're all doing well. Someone from Discord support contacted me, but with an account that didn't have a motherboard or anything, which seemed suspicious.

[tired obsidian]

It's a scam, see #safety

Discord will never contact you in-app

[ashen zinc]

Random people?

[tired obsidian]

Not so random, no. Scammers

[ashen zinc]

Uh yea probably

[tired obsidian]

No "probably" about. 100% scammers

Again, see #safety for more info

[spice tinsel]

I had sent him a request because of the problem he caused. The strange thing is that he asked for my information, which I didn't provide, then he deleted me.

[tired obsidian]

Again, that is a scammer. Report the message and block the user

Discord will never contact you in-app

[verbal wraith]

Ah yes, talking with the codeblocks

[mild goblet]

The user doesn't have the discord staff badge hence scammer as well.

[tired obsidian]

The user is trying to contact them in-app. Hence scammer

Even if there were a staff badge it'd still be a scammer

[jade current]

The user is scamming, hence scammer

[verbal wraith]

[upbeat anchor]

im yet to understand the logic here

like do people think "woah ive never seen this before, must be legit"?

also "formally discord" is funny

[verbal wraith]

Probably, maybe my 13 yo brother would fall for that

[winged swan]

probably those new to discord

[ashen zinc]

Uh oh is scammer, look at the join date bro

[bleak pond]

i feel like there is a problem in it

[ashen zinc]

Lol fr

[spice tinsel]

I literally 100 percent brought this case here so that we can all report the account to see if it gets banned, and I'll report it to support.

[ashen zinc]

My friend fall for mr beast scam 😭

[verbal wraith]

The problem is AI generated ahh look

[verbal wraith]

That's not how it works

You can only report via in app reporting tool

Only you have access to reporting their message

[ashen zinc]

Oh im also got someone send friend rq too (in this server)

I thought is gonna be normal person but i checked thier all msg been send in this server but i couldn't found one so i blocked them

[verbal wraith]

Normal stuff here, that's why most of active people here have disabled dms/blocked friends requests

[ashen zinc]

That so annoying

Is just like bot auto add random ppl

[rugged vector]

why they sent tho?

[frosty remnant]

ı have one question

[ashen zinc]

Okay

[frosty remnant]

Is it sensible to be a computer engineer or game developer in 2026?

[verbal wraith]

Some are scammers probably, some want to advertise something, other want to ask a question but they can't (you have to wait 10 minutes before you can send message here afaik)

[ashen zinc]

That always happens bruh and trying to let me click to the strange link

bro i wouldn't never fall for that

[ashen zinc]

yes

[rugged vector]

most stupid ones that i saw send server links via bots

[ashen zinc]

Some even send me a fake via free nitro gift lol

[fair sluice]

Lol

[rugged vector]

i hate scammers more than ever nowadays cause someone stole my 200$ 😭

[fair sluice]

Life is pretty hard

[ashen zinc]

that very annoying

[fair sluice]

fr

It's alr, if no.

I'm just asking!

[frosty remnant]

how?

[rugged vector]

u should not advertise

[runic field]

This is not a place to sell stuff.

#rules

[fair sluice]

i know, greatly apologised.

[rugged vector]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[runic field]

Then delete your message...

[ashen zinc]

You want to be computer engineer or game developer in 2026?

[dark moth]

I get your in a tough situation, but breaking the server rules isn't gona help you

[fair sluice]

I sincerely apologise

[dark moth]

So please stop and move on

[fair sluice]

sry, was just finding a guy.

[frosty remnant]

computer engineer

[fair sluice]

sry, once again..

[frosty remnant]

Actually, they both lead to the same destination. AI is about to acquire both of them.

[fair sluice]

can you do me a favour, I would greatly appreciate that.

[dark moth]

No

[fair sluice]

okay!

Sry for wasting your time, bye!

[runic field]

AI is going to acquire none of them lol.

[rugged vector]

atleast in 10 years

[frosty remnant]

Given how much artificial intelligence has developed in such a short time, how much do you think it will develop in the future?

[ashen zinc]

So you search someone in discord developer server for just finding someone buy your channel

[neat olive]

What do you mean by a short time here?

[viscid steppe]

How many years has it been in the 6 months period

[neat olive]

[rugged vector]

probably 5 years or so

[weary bluff]

AI models need LoRA’s (coding models)

[fair sluice]

nope, I'm here from may 18 time, finding any guy who can buy.

[random root]

damn 😭

[fair sluice]

Didn't chated since joined, cuz busy with irl.

[ashen zinc]

Then you gotta just wait?

[ashen zinc]

Uh alright

[lone anvil]

🤔

am i supposed to report this person

[rugged vector]

scam

[dark moth]

!report

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. To make a report to the Trust and Safety team, please use the in app reporting tool. For more information see this help article.

[rugged vector]

yeah

[ashen zinc]

Yes

[lone anvil]

what would have happened if id said yes

[rugged vector]

idk, but i think u dont need to know

[runic field]

AI has been here for ages, its just generative LLMs that have gone trending and thus companies investing on them. It either sticks or goes down, but AI does not replace people but tends to shift talent from humans to other tasks.

[weary bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/future-city-scifi-gif-8981694204001806108

[lone anvil]

damn

shouldve said i have a problem with current technology then

[weary bluff]

Just report

[dark moth]

Scam trying to get your crypto if you have any

[lone anvil]

did that

[ashen zinc]

You will lost what you have right now

[weary bluff]

Okay, now say yes since you reported (!) xD

I lowkey want to see what they say tbh

[rugged vector]

ragebaiting scammers is best friday activity

[lone anvil]

yea me too

[ashen zinc]

Bruh i haven't seen crypto help center in discord in my entire life bro

And they just randomly add then ask for your valuable stuff

Sometimes i got idian scam call lol

[humble mortar]

Hi guys, people can sugggest me about should use embed or text for commands hunt item

[lone anvil]

commands what

but i prefer embeds ngl

[lost grove]

Sry to ping you but you are got bro +_+

[verbal wraith]

Game of Thrones?

[steel stirrup]

So nice of you bro thanks

[steel stirrup]

I think embed would look better for hunt item commands because it’s cleaner, easier to read, and you can organize item info nicely with colors, emojis, rarity, drops, etc.
Text is faster and simpler, but embeds give a more professional feel for game bots.

[steel stirrup]

You should

[versed creek]

most unrandom thing

[humble mortar]

"For Discord newbies who are unfamiliar with bots, there is often a preference for minimalism. Features like embeds can feel alienating and overly complex since they are relatively new to many users; therefore, basic commands should stick to plain text instead of embeds. This is just my personal opinion."

[verbal wraith]

Embeds are new for users?

That's new to me

[modest geyser]

no #rules

[valid jungle]

sry

[humble mortar]

No, it is only new to those who have never used Discord bots before.

[valid jungle]

sryyyy

[versed creek]

i prefer container with no accent

:3

[daring wasp]

embeds are literally the ones considered old now :p

containers are the new

anyways byee now :p

[humble mortar]

Containers?

I don't know that

[lone anvil]

help what do i say
i know almost nothing abt crypto ngl

[flint epoch]

documentation suggestion for @humble mortar:
Component Reference - Container

[patent carbon]

This is a container

[zealous gate]

tbf i'd say new devs tend to fill their embeds with random stuff, there's definitely no general preference for minimalism

[patent carbon]

And think everything needs to be in an embed/container

[humble mortar]

That is container, just is embed but dont have color?

look so good

[neat olive]

components v2 ≠ containers

[neat olive]

containers and embeds support different features

[patent carbon]

No. They're very very different

They're much more flexible than embeds

[neat olive]

components v2 supports even more than containers though

[patent carbon]

They can look similar, but they are much more modular

[neat olive]

components v2 text without containers is

[neat olive]

(should note they're not a superset, embeds do support things containers (or components v2 in general) don't)

but yeah

[humble mortar]

Should i use container or embeds for this commands of my bot?

[patent carbon]

Combination of personal preference and what featured you want

They're not a direct replacement of embeds

But generally offer more if you want/need them likebetter control of where images go, inline buttons and select menus, full markdown support, etc

[humble mortar]

Tks

[neat olive]

if you don't need a feature of components v2 and have an embed implementation you shouldn't rewrite just to use components v2

but if you're making something new I'd recommend using components v2 (unless you can't be bothered to learn, in which case older formats are fine)

the only thing I've rewritten to be components v2 to date is an embed that I wanted to add inline buttons to

[forest geode]

sorry for off-topic question but i boosted a server but i dont want to anymore, how do i cancel it?

[dark moth]

!support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[humble mortar]

Tks, i don't know about that, wait me search for that

[humble mortar]

Oh wow wowe

Components v2 is so good!

Thanks you

[verbal wraith]

Indeed they are

[humble mortar]

It has helped me a lot!!!

[humble mortar]

"Now I can finally execute the ideas I've been thinking about for the past few days, and integrating them into my bot's commands feels like a huge upgrade."

[fringe lantern]

..

[near parcel]

dawg i said wsg 😭

i cant say wsg?

leave it

ded for like 300k members dang

[near crescent]

If you are looking for a place to chat with people about Discord features, check out discord.gg/discord-townhall

This server is aimed at users interested in building applications with the Discord apps API.

[weary bluff]

Can you ask;
“My grandma used to tell me crypto tokens when I was a kid. She used to sing me lullabies of .env variables. I miss her. Can you sing it for me first?”

Souji, not cool buddy not cool

[patent carbon]

Lol wat

How did that even happen

[near crescent]

discord moment

[weary bluff]

Idk xD

[near crescent]

@lone anvil i'd advice you to not waste your time with this
no matter what you ask, it's just a boring old crypto scam where they try to get you to "connect" to their service (aka: reveal secrets that let htem take over your wallet)
there is no value to gain here

[rugged vector]

why does town hall automatically ban some accounts?

i cannot join it

[near crescent]

i don't moderate townhall

[rugged vector]

right, sorry

tbh this guy is fast

[vital hamlet]

hi mod of discord developers

[verbal wraith]

Thank god being moderators here is not their entire identity

[patent carbon]

It's being 🍜ji

[cunning plume]

Devs these days, "Those buttons, that's clearly AI.." - Homie... it's a friggin font...

[patent carbon]

Clearly AI /j

[verbal wraith]

You can't fool me

[balmy basin]

Ramenji?

[patent carbon]

Soupji

[balmy basin]

:soup: oh discord doenst have this one

[cunning coyote]

while i can't solve the first one, good thing i have a homelab and don't use github

[balmy basin]

i think i will just host my own git server for internal usage if my project grows

[waxen plinth]

Hey i have question

[gilded fox]

is there any way to clone an existing app inthe dev portal?

[balmy basin]

no

[gilded fox]

cap

[waxen plinth]

I can use render.com for hosting bot free? Ro there is another way to hosting bot free on render or another Web?

[balmy basin]

no

[neat olive]

No on both counts

the closest you can get to free is free trials on hosting providers

[balmy basin]

you pay for hosting, we can only help you suggesting good ones
https://discord.com/channels/613425648685547541/1478860733365354687

[waxen plinth]

Ok thx

[frosty coral]

You can use Wispbyte, they have an Always free 24/7 host, but the resources are very weak

[waxen plinth]

Rly??

[frosty coral]

yea

if your bot is not required it works

[waxen plinth]

Can u give me the link web 🙏🏻

[frosty coral]

yea wait

[waxen plinth]

Thx uu

[frosty coral]

https://wispbyte.com

[waxen plinth]

Thx uu! So much

[frosty coral]

np

[waxen plinth]

Can u pls help me for this Web? But soon not now can?

[frosty coral]

yea

[waxen plinth]

Add me pls on DMs

Thx u so much

[trim geode]

Or you can just go serverless and not pay a dime for a while... (or ever)

because if it's just commands there's really no need to run a 24/7 bot

[frosty coral]

yes that is one of the options

[trim geode]

I'd personally recommend that over any free host

[patent carbon]

ya, unless you need to react to events in the server (other than direct user interaction), you can run an HTTP baed bot using "serverless" and you can use major providers for 0 cost

[verbal wraith]

But then I can't use prefix commands

[trim geode]

Because it's sometimes better to re-architect and have much better performance then using a low spec, underpowered, free host

[verbal wraith]

Thanks?

[patent carbon]

^

different, or possibly fewer features is better than features breaking unexpectedly

[trim geode]

🥚 actly

[spring hollow]

lovely response (ai)

[frosty coral]

yes, free hosting has very poor specifications, except for Oracle Cloud

[patent carbon]

ya Oracle Cloud's free tier is pretty amazing... if you can both get access and know how to set it up

[neat olive]

average criminal:

(ai slop)

<@&1050493473033289778> seems like some kind of bot, responding to months old messages with ai slop

[spiral haven]

Does anyone know how to set a bot name style like this on my own bot?

[dark moth]

it is, there just isn't an ui for it

you got to use the api to patch the user object directly

[rugged vector]

oh, sorry for misinformation

[crystal gust]

I need help making a bo5 anybody

[trim geode]

I also enjoy best of 5 format

[crystal gust]

Bot

My bad

[patent carbon]

ask said in api chat... can you be more specific on what youre actually trying to do? and you will need to explain in more detail than you said in the other channel as no one had any idea what you were talking about

[crystal gust]

I'm trying to take another person's bot down from xbox

I'm trying to make a bot

[patent carbon]

we cant help with that

[dark moth]

no my mission is enforcing the server rules and kicking trolls out. wana see who can get theirs complete first?

[dark moth]

then contact xbox/microsoft about it

looks like i win

[patent carbon]

did you click the fun button?

[trim geode]

awe, I didn't get time to respond :(

[patent carbon]

no, im the cat. youre the matt

[dark moth]

they had their chance

[trim geode]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-o-face-thomas-character-series-1-season-1-gif-2440712615620458128

[keen gorge]

how r u guys

[trim geode]

"taking another person's insertthinghere down" in general means unethical or illegal...neither of which is welcome here

[long vigil]

Are there any active discord staff in here.

[tired obsidian]

!support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[long vigil]

2 months waiting on a response on a ticket. Discord staff are special.

[tired obsidian]

Complaining about it here is not welcome. They’ll get to your ticket when they get to it

[long vigil]

cool

[patent carbon]

or they wont... but complaining here still wont change anything

[long vigil]

ik

[patent carbon]

so dont

[long vigil]

lets leave it at that

[patent carbon]

we dont wanna hear about it

[long vigil]

i dont want to see you typing.

[dark moth]

let's move on, this is not productive

[long vigil]

ok

[spiral haven]

I found that the client patches /users/@me with display_name_font_id, display_name_effect_id, and display_name_colors. Can bot users update these fields as well, or are they currently limited to user accounts?

[dark moth]

given you've shown at least one bot with some of those set, i assume atleast the name stuff can be set by bots

[modest geyser]

Only in guild

[patent carbon]

Ya, it's Modify Current Member, not user

[modest geyser]

You cant set it globally so you have to use modify current member

[weary bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-catch-snatch-take-hand-gif-10602062925591572565

[versed creek]

💀

[night shadow]

[late needle]

I've been waiting months on a doxxing ticket you dont see me crying

[patent carbon]

they left already

[late needle]

Ah lmfao

What a gimp lol

[modest geyser]

I have a floofi tail

[lethal pier]

do you have floofi ears to match?

[modest geyser]

Yes

[charred sluice]

Looking for a travel buddy

[spring hollow]

you seem to be in the wrong place for that type of request

[patent carbon]

he left immediately

[spring hollow]

[modest geyser]

Whats going on with this server today

[glass silo]

Just today?

[gray totem]

electropool Kick Ban Mute Timeout Him

[stone garnet]

Gn

[gray totem]

He is a bad person and a bad human

[limber oracle]

hi, ive a question, is there any way i can get back my slides of discord recap please? I dont find them 💔

[patent carbon]

checkpoint has been unavailable for a while

[dark moth]

next ai tool to try: opencode
so far not doing so hot

[jade current]

Umaaa

[dark moth]

all i did was ask it to review some changes i have locally

[trim geode]

what model are you using? I def haven't had that happen before

although when using Gemini models it's been...interesting and had some weird behavior.

[dark moth]

gemma4

[trim geode]

Oh, ngl I just use OpenCode Zen models lol

when using Ollama or OpenRouter I have issues with tooling at random points

More openrouter than anything.

[dark moth]

well gemma seems to be new kid on the block so i figured it should at least try it once to see what all the fuss is about

so far the biggest fuss i see it is sputtering out like that

[trim geode]

I wonder if that's a gemma issue or an opencode one

[dark moth]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[trim geode]

now I wanna try gemma4

[dark moth]

it runs pretty well locally i must say

slow to get started but once it's going, damn does it go

[trim geode]

What are you using to run locally?

It's on my todo list to run locally but I'm not sure if my specs are worth it lol

[dark moth]

i'm just using it for some review stuff atm, will prob try actual coding later

though it found some optimalizations, i told it to apply them and well

not sure who's at fault exactly, but these 2 don't seem to like each other

[granite yarrow]

See I checked the audit log, but I don’t know why my “server log” channel got deleted

[patent carbon]

certain audit log events arent emitted by bots iirc

[dark moth]

who deleted it is gona be in there. as for why: we aren't magicians. we can't know either

[modest geyser]

My wizard orb is sadly out of commission for today

[dark moth]

already?

[modest geyser]

Yea it magically breaks on the 22nd always

It needs regular breaks you know?

[dark moth]

have you tried glueing it together with stronger code?

[modest geyser]

I have

[weary bluff]

blehh

from this server btw

[trim geode]

from a distance it reminds me of charlie from supernatural

I was thinking arrow, but I mean supernatural lmao

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-bradbury-supernatural-supernatural-season7-spn-season7-redhead-gif-27382352

[ashen beacon]

Hello everyone How you alls is ?

[modest geyser]

Hating qt

[lethal pier]

cutie

[modest geyser]

No its Kyew Tee!!!

[lethal pier]

que-tee

[polar viper]

queue tee

[heavy totem]

just a general question my phone is locked

and i need to address this within legal boundaries

or try to fix it

[covert python]

guys I need help my discord is not working whenever I try to open it, it doesn't open I tried reinstaling it and still not working

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[covert python]

helppp

[spring hollow]

@covert python

[trim geode]

woot woot. built the importer tool and built the worker system...gotta finalize it but it's gonna be funnnnn

now I can import the 11. freaking. gb. of. crypto. images.

[torn loom]

why so bad the new version of discord, the ui design...

[patent carbon]

https://dis.gd/feedback

[vestal oracle]

Hi. I am founder of taskdriver ai and currently looking for junior developer based in Europe.

[trim geode]

not a recruitment server

go to fiverr

[cloud nexus]

ok so saying hi is banned

[jade current]

Did you read the automod message at least

[cloud nexus]

yea, i never said the reason was bad i just pointed out it is banned

[lyric escarp]

we all probably already seen it once

the formatter config that hurts my braincells

[patent carbon]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[jade current]

Birb

[tawdry bone]

Please be respectful to other people, please. @cloud nexus

[patent carbon]

I haven't looked at tabsize 2 in a while. Looks weird

[jade current]

The terminal to the side would be cool but me laptop hab no wide screen :wilted_rose:

[patent carbon]

External monitor

[lyric escarp]

ive always used tabsize 2, tabsize 4 is just too big for me writing structured JSX

[lyric escarp]

this is the only special occasion I have it there because I wanted to see the upload result while not having it eat half my code height

[jade current]

My Activity(?) panel (or one that got le File Explorer) is already on the right side. Not sure how my terminal would look placed at the left

[patent carbon]

That is fair. I have an ultrawide monitor so JSX is fine

But like 5 tab depth in C++?

[lyric escarp]

my eyes can only recognize tabsize 2 at this point so i stick to it

[jade current]

Me when tab size 1

[lyric escarp]

confusing with spaces

this is how it'd look with tabsize 4

also older codes I used to work with something like arduino(I had to write arduino-compatible code for sake of sharing the code with my teammates), and I really don't like having multiple files in Arduino so I used to do everything in 1 file and big indents makes it... look worse somehow

[fathom schooner]

Hey guys, this may sound dumb. I use ai and I started it and now addicted to ai for coding. Is there a way to convince my brain to like stop using those ai platforms and code something from scratch? If so please dm me. Thanks so much!

[spring hollow]

you can actually learn how to code instead of relying on ai

[lyric escarp]

The real thing.

[trim geode]

It's simple...just stop paying for the services. Uninstall the platforms. Delete your accounts.

on top of the fact that once you know how to code, you'll realize how bad AI can actually be at it without strict oversight

[lyric escarp]

vibecoded self-written pid function vs a library

[cloud nexus]

i like ur badges

[jade current]

Holy, too much whitespace wasted

[lyric escarp]

right

[lyric escarp]

this is so cursed but the formatter's python style wants this lmao

[jade current]

Don't you have to floor it? Also, why not put line(); inline with do

[lyric escarp]

it's int, I don't need to?

integer rounds down(aka truncate) by design because it can't store decimals

[lyric escarp]

I can't get it closer because of the formatter

oh wait i can just inline it

there we go

[jade current]

One-liner moment

[hollow crow]

Is there a way to make the dev portal dark mode?

Nevermind, I found it

[hoary tusk]

does anyone know how youtube, X, tik tok, and others embed custom player in discord?

googling about it didn't helped much

[cloud nexus]

ask chatgpt

[hoary tusk]

i did asked AI, and it said they have internal ties with discord, but didn't mentioned any source when i asked for it. So just wanted to confirm if that was the case

[cloud nexus]

ask*

[jaunty anchor]

BIMBIMBAMBAM

[patent carbon]

it doesnt have a source for it because it's just not something available to the public / has documentation for... discord has some internal whitelist for what is available for some partnered sources vs what is available to developers as a whole

and embedding an iframe into the app from a link from any source, is not available to everyone

it's just something that is known... that youtube (and other major 3rd party platforms) can do certain things that everyone else cant

discord has direct account representatives for internal communications with companies like Google or other partnered services... and that's how implementations of things like that are done

[trim geode]

And I'm glad it's limited to who can do it because can you imagine the security risk of letting anyone do anything like that?

[little berry]

I'm building an AI Discord bot that auto-generates server setups (channels, roles, categories). Also made moderation/ticket bots. What bot features are actually useful or missing?

[frigid harbor]

good morning guys

[little berry]

its 11 at night here lol, but goodmorning for you.

[frigid harbor]

Lol here its's 7 in the morning

[little berry]

thats crazy,

[frigid harbor]

yea

I'm from Azerbaijan bro

[little berry]

lol

[ashen zinc]

Morning

[hoary tusk]

ok thanks for conforming

[trim geode]

ughhh...I have so many pending crypto scam images...this is on top of the like 8GB already existing in the repo. I've literally run out of space on the repo

[hoary tusk]

is there any other way we can embed a custom iframe in discord?

[trim geode]

You can make an activity

[hoary tusk]

ohh ok i'll look into it

[trim geode]

but it's not a "custom iframe"

it would be an app specifically designed to run inside a Discord iframe sandbox

[flint epoch]

Overview of Activities

[trim geode]

#1478860733365354687 message

[worn belfry]

Thanks

[worn belfry]

How do I know what I need for my bot if I’m constantly adding things

And which should I pick how do I choose

[patent carbon]

the hardware requiremets for a bot dont change much for a majority of changes you can make... unless youre adding a significant amount of extra data processing or caching

you can always upgrade/downgrade your tier on a provider... so see what you use now, and add a little more, and scale it with your bot

[worn belfry]

I mean it’s currently just a mod bot with a few other things but I’m planning on making it into a full game and everything

[patent carbon]

ya.... that doesnt really give much helpful information about the hardware requirements of the bot

[worn belfry]

Wdym

[hoary tusk]

the pinned msg in the thread links to the wrong msg ig, it should link to first message not the second

[patent carbon]

"mod bot" and "a full game" doesnt mean anything for the hardware requirements

[worn belfry]

Ah, well how do I choose which one to pick for startup then more later if needed

[patent carbon]

That's a question only you can answer

[humble mortar]

Who can show me about container use Components v2

[flint epoch]

Component Reference - Container

[upbeat anchor]

This is why man invented hashing

[trim geode]

yeah but then I'd need to...host them

[lyric escarp]

im glad i did my upgrade

[glass silo]

Wrong server?

[drifting river]

!

[daring wasp]

yay now my lib cleanly handles gatewayerrors and (hopefully reconnecting and resuming too but i don't know how id test that)

[jade current]

Why are your errors under objects module

[daring wasp]

I think I moved it along when moving things into types but yeah shouldn't be in objects :p

[jade current]

You sent a disallowed intent for a Gateway Intent
This feels a bit redundant

Also:

[...] that you have not enabled[ in the Developer Portal] or are not approved for

[peak halo]

everything in python is an object, nove your whole lib in there

[jade current]

Even your mistakes

Insert that one JIF by maukkis

[daring wasp]

I just copied all the error descriptions from the discord docs

I'll change them up too before commitign

but I feel like the description is fine (?) but a bit too long maybe?

[peak halo]

A link to the portal is always a plus to be fair

The first sentence can be removed in my opinion

The "You sent a disallowed...."

[late needle]

Morning ☕

[upbeat anchor]

i do now (finally)

[trim geode]

Lol link?

[patent carbon]

-# The bot that shouldn't need to exist

Nice touch

[upbeat anchor]

i dont wana promo too much, but its on my site

[upbeat anchor]

that and "the bot chat catches bots" is too funny

i also spent way too long to have fun live stats lol

[patent carbon]

You should add daily unique messages as well. Just to make your life harder

And to see how often the same message is used in different servers

[upbeat anchor]

technically they are all 100% similar as we have no msg intent 😔

but honestly if i get it, then i can hash it and compare

[patent carbon]

Oh right

[trim geode]

I don't think it's really promo when I'm literally asking for it but to each their own lolol. Respect. I'll have to check it out layer

[upbeat anchor]

ah honestly fair

[trim geode]

love it already :P

being so pedantic but the glow suddenly cutting off

fumadocs?

[upbeat anchor]

i thought i fixed that 😔

[upbeat anchor]

nah, i wanted to have as much custom fun as i could

[daring wasp]

i literally cant charge my phone without it burning in this temp 😭

[trim geode]

ngl I've been debating between having my bot have any sort of commands or if it's all dashboard config. still haven't landed on a decision tbh. I think beta I'll have a super simply config command

[upbeat anchor]

@trim geode i think its a browser annoying bug as if you zoom into it more, then it doesn't crop

[upbeat anchor]

yeah, tbh i just did this to make it easy for people to see the stats

not any actual useful dashboard

[fleet yoke]

Hello, is there any bot that can provide buttons below an embeded message by a trigger action?

[trim geode]

You can make one

[trim geode]

funny charts. love them

[fleet yoke]

Yeah, however I am rookie. And it might take me more time

[wintry dome]

same here

[upbeat anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-bow-gif-8282063926931356986

[fleet yoke]

,,🤝

[trim geode]

everyone starts somewhere!

[patent carbon]

Well this is a server for developers to talk. So if you need help finding learning resources or debugging, we can try and help

[fleet yoke]

I see, thank you and I will try to do something

[late needle]

I have a genuine question who in this server is actually the developers?

[upbeat anchor]

oh also i wonder how many people im going to annoy with the glow actually having a slow pulse animation

animate-pulse duration-10000

[patent carbon]

Ideally, everyone. As it's a server for developers

If you're not a developer (or interested in becoming one), I don't really know why you're here

[trim geode]

most people here are developers in one way or another.

[trim geode]

[upbeat anchor]

a good amount of moderators are devs (well why else would they enable that button in settings)

[late needle]

I was invited by someone here cant remember who lol

[trim geode]

ngl, I really hate writing telemetry stuff...im just letting claude do it for me.

well technically claude wrote the in depth prompt, qwen 3.6 plus planned it, kimi k2.6 built it

still gotta actually read and test it though

[upbeat anchor]

lol nice

[rugged haven]

Guys, how can I solve this problem?

[patent carbon]

https://dis.gd/phone-errors

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[trim geode]

eff it, we ball

in all fairness though....like 1/5 of it is just documentation

[patent carbon]

What's the worst that can happen? It's just telemetry

[trim geode]

I'm actively running it at the moment

[upbeat anchor]

ahhhh why is chrome so much worse than firefox

[trim geode]

so it's actively working and logs are shipping

[upbeat anchor]

W

[upbeat anchor]

lawsuit of sharing ppi

[trim geode]

OH NOOOO...it got worse :(

[patent carbon]

Huh. That's a little bit of latency

[trim geode]

only 1/10th of a second

[versed creek]

[trim geode]

but it is actively calling a DB table too

[jade current]

A fraction of a second

[trim geode]

and it's a hot swap system with an atomic pointer

[proven shore]

hi.I have a problem on divi.. can someone help me?

[trim geode]

???

[patent carbon]

No idea what divi is... Is it development related?

[proven shore]

wordpress builder

[trim geode]

Ask in their support system

[patent carbon]

Huh... Now is WordPress development related... No? Yes? Sorta?

But ya, probably best to ask elsewhere. I doubt many people/anyone here can offer helpful advice

[proven shore]

ok, don't worry

thanks for try to help

[verbal wraith]

[chilly finch]

📝

[late needle]

You know that link hasn't worked for quite a long time right?

[dark moth]

The link works fine

[late needle]

Doesn't for me, I try to login and it doesn't work

[verbal wraith]

I hope you are not using your discord account credentials

Because support portal is separate from discord accounts

[lethal pier]

bro is scrambling right now

[full cobalt]

can I put video inside a embed ?

[native pilot]

no, but you can put videos in components v2

[cunning coyote]

leeet

[trim geode]

I hate you

but also that's funny lol

[cunning coyote]

[grizzled plaza]

Guys wanna join my discord server only people which are 5 to 20 can join

[trim geode]

5 to 20 is wild

[grizzled plaza]

Yea

Kinda to me

[trim geode]

It's quite literally a violation of terms of service to be under the age of 13 and on Discord

[grizzled plaza]

Guys

My mom caught me

AT 3 AM

[full cobalt]

doing whta

[grizzled plaza]

ITS 3 AM FOR ME

[trim geode]

Whatever it is, it's off topic

[grizzled plaza]

Bye

[trim geode]

anywho....opencode go brr

[proven shore]

what is your problem?

[trim geode]

A lot

but that's irrelevant

and only my therapist can help with that.

[neat olive]

one of my projects just crossed the one-hour mark earlier (aka it earned more than I earn in an hour at my normal job)

(and yes, I've spent way more than an hour on it )

[trim geode]

sooon you're be in the black on it's income

we believe

[neat olive]

also, that's revenue, not profit

the profit line is still in the red

[trim geode]

imma see how OpenCode + Qwen 3.6 Plus do with a discordgo -> disgo migration goes

this is gonna be interesting indeed

im also curious how much it will cost

[dark moth]

So far opencode is very hit or miss atm

At least for me

[trim geode]

I've been using it for a while personally

I just recently actually layered it with openchamber too

but I also only use the OpenCode Zen models which are tailored to the tool...so maybe my experience is biased?

[dark moth]

That might make a difference yeah. Might need to give some of those free ones a try

[trim geode]

Because I only remember two distinct issues, and one was with Gemini models, specifically the Pro models, and it outputting weird random gibberish and failing to call tools correctly which seemed to be fixed, and then a GLM issue where it was outputting everything on a single line per character during its thinking process.

[trim geode]

Honestly, if I were you, I'd just throw $20 at it and then just try out some other actual models because they don't really have any good free models at the moment. They used to have a lot of free models but it seems like they've been rotated out recently. And my general model usage is pretty low unless I'm using it really heavily like I am tonight.

And even despite probably the close to 10,000 lines of code it wrote, half of which are for JSON files for a dashboard which are not functional so take that with a grain of salt, it still probably only cost me about $2-3 in total.

My general usage is:

• Qwen 3.6 Plus for plan
• Kimi K2.6 for complex coding
• Minimax M2.7 for more simple stuff in

[quiet saddle]

opus 4.6 for everything

[trim geode]

side note...seems like it's actually breaking it out well...

[trim geode]

we're not made of money

[quiet saddle]

only $20 a month

[trim geode]

Thats the cost of a single banana.

[daring wasp]

new Madeline pfp

[quiet saddle]

this was my old one, I just switched back

[daring wasp]

one of my claude accounts (that I haven't used for like weeks) got suspended :p

[quiet saddle]

my usage resets on monday and i've only used 2%

i need to have it do some more stuff

[daring wasp]

what kind of a banana costs 20$ 😭

[trim geode]

the sarcastic kind

[daring wasp]

oh :p

[verbal wraith]

Give it to some vibe coder. It will be out of usage in day or two

[trim geode]

half a day

[quiet saddle]

idk how people use so much honestly lmao

[verbal wraith]

They are just vibing

[quiet saddle]

i suppose i rarely have it actually producing code, lol

[trim geode]

it's only on phase 1....I think this is gonna be expensive...

[daring wasp]

ok i just found out my isp giving free 1 year and half gemini pro

don't mind if I do :p

[trim geode]

resets in like 30 hours, sometimes I get it to like 80% but that's usually on heavvvyyyyy "research" spurts with a lot of the adaptive mode turned on

[quiet saddle]

i'm confused though... why is there a cost if you haven't gone over your limit?

[trim geode]

oh those are 2 different programs :P

[quiet saddle]

ahh

[trim geode]

I'm not using claude code

[daring wasp]

Should I have gemini pro review my lib

[trim geode]

I'm using OpenCode and it's using that credits

I don't use Claude for any "coding"

[quiet saddle]

right, it's 2026, who uses only one AI now

[mild geyser]

Btw what is the best ai for help in coding?

[daring wasp]

there's too many ai tools

[quiet saddle]

i just use claude for everything

[trim geode]

It's depends on skill level because frankly if you're brand new you shouldn't be using AI for coding at all IMO

[quiet saddle]

never even tried anything else tbh

[daring wasp]

i use claude for actual use and chatgpt for random questions

[trim geode]

finally we're editing code lmao

[daring wasp]

neither for coding though

just for planning/helping with code

[trim geode]

I think it started editing it around $0.75 lol

[torpid osprey]

For coding: Claude and GitHub Copilot

[daring wasp]

what's this for

[trim geode]

TIL that some people hate gif responses so much that despite them never interacting with you ever they block you for simply responding with a gif
-# which makes me wanna respond with gifs even more because it's a gif...it's not that deep lmao

[trim geode]

I'm having it migrate an entire project from DiscordGo to DisGo

[jade current]

None

[mild geyser]

I don’t mean coding like writing scripts for you

[trim geode]

copilot just piggybacks onto everything else and frankly it sucks compared to like every other tool

[mild geyser]

I mean that more like help in planing or sth like that

[daring wasp]

i tried copilot free once and it's terrible compared to other models free versions (although I can't speak for paid versions)

[daring wasp]

Claude is nice for that

[trim geode]

im gettin' kinda nervous lmao

[jade current]

Me when coding without a single use of AI

[verbal wraith]

Unc

[jade current]

Work :wilted_rose:

[verbal wraith]

We are living in big 2026 and you are not using AI

[trim geode]

okay demo

[verbal wraith]

Jumpscare

[trim geode]

ClickUp is, they're a 100x company
-# lmaoo

[jade current]

Makes me remember of that one guy saying:

If you are not using AI then you are d*mb

[jade current]

Nuh-uh

[modest geyser]

If you are not using ai you are not using ai

[trim geode]

sorry... "100x organization"

[modest geyser]

:think:

[jade current]

:thinking:

[modest geyser]

Matt for your anti scam boat you need a grafana dashboard too

[trim geode]

I'm building a SigNoz dashboard

speaking of, @modest geyser did you see the showcase? I'm pretty proud of it tbh

[daring wasp]

im 1000x dev!!!
-# (1000x bugs)

[trim geode]

it's small AF and looks like it's like...nothing...but there's so much happening it's kinda cool IMO

[daring wasp]

huh. i never knew this was only introduced in 3.12

[modest geyser]

I did its pretty cool

[jade current]

Holy font :wilted_rose:

[trim geode]

I wanna do a full like...showcase...but that requires me actually posting the images.

so I'll wait till it's fully out before I do that so I don't have to post it a lot

[daring wasp]

looks cool to me (if you're talking about the monospace one)

[quiet saddle]

def dont post the images

[trim geode]

I'd do it in my own private server :P

[modest geyser]

Also just spoiler them

[trim geode]

Well I'll modify the actual scam content

to blur it out...but just leave the structure

[modest geyser]

Anyways they are really only using 4 images now

[trim geode]

ohhhh I see what it's doing...it's not selectively modifying it's overwriting

that's a different behavior. interesting

[jade current]

Dunno about you, but PEP0498

[modest geyser]

Also matt i have no idea how but my library can handle pretty large event amounts per second lol

[torpid osprey]

But I like GitHub Copilot (in vs code)

[trim geode]

I'd really encourage you to branch out and try other tools outside of VSC

if you're wanting to actually use AI as a tool

because genuinely as a sidekick there's SO many great tools out there

[jade current]

I don't like the curly braces though

[trim geode]

geez, what are you up to on average/peak?

[daring wasp]

i kind of like that

[daring wasp]

I just didn't know it :p

[modest geyser]

I think my peak was like 1000 events a sec but those were discords bulk message deletes for message creates i think the peak was 40-50 messages a second

[torpid osprey]

I don't use AI much. I only use it to find and fix bugs and errors if I can't solve them on my own.

[modest geyser]

Average is about 1-4 messages a second

[trim geode]

ngl, that's prob the worst time to use AI because then it becomes a cognitive crutch

[jade current]

Well it's quite True though, that is in the part of nested literal strings inside f-strings

[neat olive]

I typically can't be bothered to use llms tbh

[trim geode]

Because you train yourself to lean on AI for anything complex instead of using your own critical thinking skills

[daring wasp]

I would recommend you to not go like "fix this bug for me" or rely on it too much and giving up too early

[neat olive]

I actually like doing the tasks it could maybe do for me

[daring wasp]

first seriously try solving it on your own search around, ask around

[neat olive]

and I don't like the tasks I'd have to do more of if I did use it

[jade current]

StackOverflow > AI

[torpid osprey]

I always code on my own and try to fix errors myself. I only turn to AI for help if I get completely stuck.

[daring wasp]

is it even still active?

I've never used the website

[jade current]

That was when I started coding lol, but I doubt so today

[modest geyser]

If i get completely stuck on a problem ai couldnt even help because the problems i get stuck on are stupid and hard to debug

[jade current]

StackOverflow helped me more back then

[trim geode]

niceeee. funny enough you just prompted a new idea because I just realized...certain pipelines will run on events they don't need...so oof. that's something I should probably handle lmao

[daring wasp]

Yeah I started about a year ago when ai was already there

[inland cave]

The problem is people expect productivity and sometimes AI makes things more productive, but the results and comprehensive of them are abysmal

[daring wasp]

Ai makes things feel more productive most of the time

[modest geyser]

Yea i just have it on message create

[neat olive]

not as active as it used to be, and visitor traffic has fallen off by quite a bit iirc

[inland cave]

In my work many rely on it to meet unrealistic goals unfortunately

[jade current]

I started late 2020 :3

[inland cave]

I also am not saying I haven't done it, but it indeed is a cognitive errosion device while coding

[daring wasp]

wowie

[neat olive]

it's one of the many sites that were heavily used for ai training purposes, and no value is being returned to it by the models that stole from it

[daring wasp]

that's the same with a lot of fields, animators, artists etc

[inland cave]

I would argue the entire AI industry is illegal (at least the llms that scraped the Internet) due to copyright infringement

[trim geode]

Let's be honest it was dying way before that because in reality Stack Overflow was always an elitist group of people for the longest time that inevitably led to the slow demise and death of the platform.

[neat olive]

The notable difference with these two is that the websites are still being heavily scraped by ai which creates a lot of direct cost, but no value as the traffic isn't from real users

[jade current]

I should pro'lly start sketching the prototype, but meh :thinking~1:

[inland cave]

Personally I've never had that experience, and I'm definitely not a power user

[neat olive]

i.e. it faces a scenario where it's paying to be trained on by ai models while losing real users

[trim geode]

And at some point people just started to turn to discord communities and things like that because they were more welcoming and you could find the answers you needed directly in the systems and libraries you used.

[neat olive]

i.e. it's not just a loss of clients/users, it'a an active increase in costs at the same time

[trim geode]

It got better but if you were to ask anything pre like 2018 you'd probably get a lot of elitist people who would say that essentially if you're not writing a thesis as a question it's not a real question and would vote to essentially get you banned.

[inland cave]

I just don't understand why we're wasting all these computational resources on AI when it could just be a simple algorithm

[torpid osprey]

Do any of you think that AI will replace programmers???

[neat olive]

there are simple algorithms

[trim geode]

no

[neat olive]

but LLMs can't be simple

[inland cave]

The boilerplate writers maybe

[modest geyser]

No

[torpid osprey]

True

[neat olive]

you need a ridiculous amount of information and compute to make an LLM work, and there is no simple alternative that can do the same (in terms of computation)

if we had human-level computing efficiency maybe it'd be easier

[inland cave]

Any catalyst of change?

[daring wasp]

not anytime soon

[jade current]

No lmao

[near crescent]

programmers? potentially, software engineers? nah

[daring wasp]

ai companies will probably close up due to the immense loss they take

[daring wasp]

whats the main difference in those two terms ?

[near crescent]

code monkey vs. planning

[daring wasp]

oh yeah then

[inland cave]

People have been saying "AI is doomed" for years but it seems to keep happening. When will this craze just die out?

[neat olive]

but that's an increase in compute efficiency, not a reduction in complexity

[near crescent]

when subsidies end and investors are sick of seeing losses

[torpid osprey]

All the news channels are saying, 'AI will enter all fields and take millions of jobs......'

[daring wasp]

when the higher ups finally realise that it is doing nothing but add more burden on the staff (except the ones that they fired thinking ai would replace them) and investors realising the ai is not making them money

[daring wasp]

all hype and nothing more

it will take jobs

but not as exaggerated

[near crescent]

well, a lot of executives are pushing it and they're the decision makers, so it's not that unlikely that it will take a large amount of jobs

[torpid osprey]

But not all

[torpid osprey]

Like the news channels are saying

[near crescent]

we've arrived the point where "why is our token usage so low? use more AI for your work" is a common narrative in big companies

[inland cave]

They're delusional.

[daring wasp]

probably not all in my opinion

[trim geode]

huh.

[daring wasp]

it's like
Person A in a field A thinks that AI can easily replace Person B in field B because they don't realise the complexity of field B

[near crescent]

do not underestimate the influence dumb execs can have on hiring

[misty smelt]

I want to ask how to get the bot badge using Automod

[daring wasp]

and vice versa

[daring wasp]

what did it cook 😭

[inland cave]

Get the AI to run random prompts to meet your quota lol

[trim geode]

A lot.

[daring wasp]

did it burn or cook properly

[jade current]

Have 100 active automod rules

[trim geode]

looks like it went really well...I gotta test it obvs

[near crescent]

https://github.com/dtnewman/burn-baby-burn

[daring wasp]

good luck

[trim geode]

but from first glance, it looks good

[misty smelt]

okay, thanks

[inland cave]

Of course this exists...

[daring wasp]

😭😭

[glass silo]

Genius

[jade current]

Burn calories :x:
Burn tokens :white_check_mark:

[near crescent]

https://github.com/dtnewman/burn-baby-burn/blob/main/bin/burn#L153-L164

[daring wasp]

of course it is

[daring wasp]

gotta burn the tokens

[quiet saddle]

AI has access to a vast store of information - more than any of us could absorb in our lifetimes - but humans (at least, some humans) have a massive advantage in our ability to not just pattern-match, but accurately contextualize enormous sets of data almost instantaneously. AI is nowhere near this point.

[daring wasp]

it's sheer quantity of data over quality rn :p

[upbeat anchor]

honestly it would be cool if AI generated code was forced to be MIT

[near crescent]

something something critical thinking

[quiet saddle]

that's what it comes down to, really. AI doesn't think.

[near crescent]

(which a lot of programmers/SEs are loosing rn by over-relying on AI, yay)

[trim geode]

not bad

[daring wasp]

😔

I try not to rely a lot on ai but I relied a lot on it when I first started instead of properly learning

[upbeat anchor]

my fav usecase for ai: i imagine what i want, but too lazy to do it (ie forumetic refactor and just continueing what ive done)

[daring wasp]

when I started I only generated code :p
now I don't really use it now that much

[jade current]

I am the vibe coder warrior 🐼📜

[daring wasp]

damn

[trim geode]

heh, this registers as a "low quality" image in the PDQ calculations lmao

[lone sable]

Wasap

[trim geode]

kinda proud of this create to catch and delete timing...especially considering it's local and

although I could probably improve the decode timing....but I'll see if that becomes an issue because it could just be something on my laptop that's higher

I burned almost $7 in tokens today lmaoo

[modest geyser]

I should make some coffee with using coffee instead of water coffee^coffee

[upbeat anchor]

Failed to double softban user (probably not an issue): DiscordAPIError[50013]: Missing Permissions
huh? how did it work 10s ago but not now :p

[peak halo]

10s you had the permissions 🫡

[upbeat anchor]

😭

[modest geyser]

Risky mrbeast is giving me free crypto in DMs

[upbeat anchor]

congrats!!! you must feel so excited

[modest geyser]

Im gonna be honest i have no slightest clue who mrbeast is apart from the crypto scams

[quiet saddle]

me neither

[modest geyser]

Oh seemingly a youtuber making slop

[upbeat anchor]

yeah basically

but (idk if anymore does) is known for giving away seeminly large quantities of money to people

for either doing nothing or challanges

[modest geyser]

Yall should watch some proper content https://youtu.be/mUwJk81YatA

[upbeat anchor]

nothing of useful substance

[upbeat anchor]

when uninstalling ibm

[modest geyser]

Never

[warm temple]

1501549115740524544

[floral rapids]

He still does

[modest geyser]

Theres also videos of networking and AIX

[proven shore]

hi, anybody knows divi?

[jade current]

That's a cool ID

[modest geyser]

And other cool retro hardware

[floral rapids]

Man I absolutely hate my internet to the point I'm planning on begging feedbacks to allow discord bots to be able to stream videos in vc / stage, so I can do a movie night (for the record, this is my internet: 4mbps download 0.72mbps upload, unmetered bandwidth, 25/mo) external site doesn't seem feasible or a good option to do

[verbal wraith]

They won't add this function. It was doable at some point but they patched it

[floral rapids]

dam, that's unfortunate:(

the only option i got would be getting a VM install Linux with GUI, login to my discord account and start streaming the movie ig

[peak halo]

math is spot on

10/10 new model, LLMs will soon get our jobs

[bleak pond]

How

[bleak pond]

Nice joke

[trim geode]

The copyright infringement nightmare.

I don't foresee them ever implementing something like that.

-# technically by streaming it at all you're violating DMCA in the US and other copyright laws depending on your country

[daring wasp]

oh hey gemini cli works on termux !

not that I'll be using it that much but nice to know an ai cli actually works 😭

[floral rapids]

true, I do wonder what the copyright laws would say in my country

[daring wasp]

not sure about the antigravity cli

[soft saddle]

Anyone here?

[trim geode]

many are

[jade current]

I don't think so

[soft saddle]

Yh lol