dev-chat

[delicate trellis]

you need to explain more if you need help! c:

[covert prawn]

A Discord Bot

[verbal wraith]

!report

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[jade current]

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[jade current]

Lol

[whole nova]

ok

[delicate trellis]

you don't need a server to report, you have the option everywhere

[radiant mantle]

well my frnds use some bots to kinda quote me i tried on 1 bot it was possible to stop tht bot from quoting me but on the other one it doesnt have any settings kinda to do it if i block the bot its gonna create one anyways so i wanna know if its possible to do so

[whole nova]

yeah

[covert prawn]

With disco bot

[jade current]

You're not being specific at all. We're not gonna code it for you, if that's what you're saying

[covert prawn]

JavaScript

That's the language

[verbal wraith]

Cool language, indeed

[delicate trellis]

you can use google traduction, and write a text cause it's impossible to help you with few words

[covert prawn]

No Speak English I Speak Spanish

[dark moth]

impossible, if it can read the messages it can read them. you as user can't opt out of that on an api level

[delicate trellis]

google translator

[dark moth]

just like how you can't prevent other users from reading your messages

[covert prawn]

No I use mi English

[dark moth]

if they got access to the channel, they can read whats in it

[upbeat anchor]

where bot token

[dark moth]

this server is english only as per #rules

[upbeat anchor]

and intents

[delicate trellis]

i give up lmaooo

[verbal wraith]

intents.all()

[covert prawn]

Better forgotten

[jade current]

Configured as an environment variable, typically in the dotenv file

[ember oak]

wssp

[jade current]

Me not there yet ._.

[upbeat anchor]

i wonder how many people do this and then demand to get privileged intents for their bot

[ember oak]

discord.gg

[verbal wraith]

I saw it pretty often in python scripts

[ember oak]

oh i can send links here really?

[verbal wraith]

No

It will be deleted

[jade current]

Sadly, I know someone who thinks a bot "needs" all privileged intents

[ember oak]

hey guys i built a discord bot that have many features :))

[verbal wraith]

Kitchen sink bots ftw!

[upbeat anchor]

if there is another hackathon, imma make the best kitchen sink ever... itll make use of every single gateway event :)

[verbal wraith]

We need another !user and !server command for sure

[jade current]

What's hackathon

[upbeat anchor]

as pain as itll be to have msg commands, ill do it the the lolz

if you do the bit, you better fully commit right

[radiant mantle]

ohhh i c so unless the bot itself has command like tht i cant 😭

[upbeat anchor]

itll have a music module that will only ever play one song

||one that wont ever give you up||

[upbeat anchor]

So your lib runs dotenv automatically

[jade current]

Yuh

I guess I don't have to if the token key is available in os.environ

[gritty kayak]

@jagged fable
ايه ؟ ده كنت بعمل مقلب بس ولا حاجه + حسابي بلع ليمت مقدرش اتكلم خاص

[dark moth]

don't randomly ping people here

also for account issues contact support

[gritty kayak]

Okay, thank you for your help.

[quiet saddle]

Omg I think I broke Claude

[upbeat anchor]

gg

[quiet saddle]

It just gave me a thought process that is 55 paragraphs

[blissful dew]

Woa

[quiet saddle]

and then it just straight up stopped mid-thought and wrote: "I need to see the next thinking to rewrite it. You've provided the current rewritten thinking and instructions, but the "next thinking" that I should rewrite is missing from your message.
Could you please share the next thinking chunk that needs to be rewritten?"

[blissful dew]

Deepseek once hit the chat limit during the thinking process :p

[quiet saddle]

Like it was trying to communicate back to its control node or something and the control wasn't sending any more thoughts

[blissful dew]

64000 tokens :p

[blissful dew]

Woa

[fossil vector]

You completely drained it

[blissful dew]

Lmao

[fossil vector]

Woah

[quiet saddle]

Cuz like... it definitely wasn't talking to me there lmao

[blissful dew]

What if it was 👀

[quiet saddle]

this isn't even the whole thing

[jade current]

Holy text

[blissful dew]

Lmfaoo

[quiet saddle]

it got really excited here

[daring wasp]

i remember where in chatgpt if you asked it for a seahorse emoji it would keep indefinitely ranting

im pretty sure they fixed it now though

[quiet saddle]

This is what I said that elicited the response lol:

An interesting observation to note here is that removing a member blanks their direct path, and the blanked nodes are not repopulated until a leaf in their subtree adds a member or commits an update path. Therefore, every non-blank parent of a leaf node MUST have at least one non-blank child, and by extension, every non-blank node in the entire tree MUST have amongst its descendants at least one leaf node.

Since every update path results in a new secret for the root node, which is then used to initialize the next key schedule, all members MUST arrive at the same root secret, which requires that they apply all remove proposals in the commit. so we aren't relying on any sort of "trust me" from each client to remove a given member from the group; if they don't apply it, they quite literally will not be able to communicate with the group anymore. it's a cryptographic guarantee.

[rapid jolt]

I added welcoming system into my leveling bot now. But i dont know if i should add moderation commands to it as well

[jade current]

Let that kitchen sink in

[olive depot]

Add economy too

[daring wasp]

kitchen sink?

[lethal pier]

its an expression

[white zealot]

Let me in

[lethal pier]

means add everything

[daring wasp]

I know :p

[signal dome]

Which website do free 24/7 bot hosting?

[jade current]

💀

[jade current]

None

[lethal pier]

hahahahaha

[daring wasp]

free hosting aren't usually gonna be reliable but #1478860733365354687 has a lot about bot hosting

[signal dome]

Brahh

[lethal pier]

didn't know that existed

[neat olive]

oop

[daring wasp]

if a hosting is free then I'd be very wary

[signal dome]

Alr thanks

[neat olive]

at least I have java

[jade current]

Object-oriented programming?

[daring wasp]

because servers don't run free

[neat olive]

that's what I said

[jade current]

What's up with OOP

[rapid jolt]

Maybe we can make our own websites for the bots to work?

[daring wasp]

do you mean dashboards?

[jade current]

What

[daring wasp]

• bots don't need websites to work

[rapid jolt]

I am using railway but it costs money

[daring wasp]

that's a hosting website

[rapid jolt]

I know, i want my bot to stay online 24/7

[daring wasp]

then you should look for a vps or host for that
I don't know how railway works properly

[neat olive]

the trick to do that is money

[daring wasp]

#1478860733365354687

[olive depot]

Is bot private or public

[rapid jolt]

I check for free bot hosting websites and theyre mostly costing money

[neat olive]

it's a managed web host, pretty standard but fairly pricy

also iirc suffers from the whole shared ip thing

[rapid jolt]

Its a public bot i think? But nobody can use it because they have to code it through my github repository

[lethal pier]

apparently in python cogs are simply classes to seperate concerns

[daring wasp]

hosting websites need server -> server needs money -> so they need money

[olive depot]

Its private then, free hosts won't be that bad tbh

Wispbyte / orihost

[jade current]

No

[daring wasp]

<@&1050493473033289778>

it's 42°C and electricity went out 😔

[rapid jolt]

Is wispbyte safe or not

Did you check them out

[olive depot]

Safe in what terms

[dark moth]

finally got around to upgrading my ceph cluster so its healthy again and has working metrics 😄

[rapid jolt]

Like, keeping your data safe

I saw a website making people pay randomly

[olive depot]

It won't

Can cause downtime though

[rapid jolt]

Does it happen rarely or usually

[olive depot]

Better ask this in their server

[upbeat anchor]

Failed to send DM to user: DiscordAPIError[50007]: Cannot send messages to this user
now im sad... someone blocked my bot

from my testing if you have no mutual servers (or ones with a mutual that user allows dms), you get "Cannot send messages to this user due to having no mutual guilds"

only way i could get the base one is if they blocked it

[verbal wraith]

[verbal wraith]

What if scammers block it

[modest geyser]

read the automod message

[warm temple]

Guys

[tired obsidian]

Read the message

[peak halo]

Read the message

[warm temple]

Oh ok

[warm temple]

Guys discord is crazy damm

[warm temple]

Components v2

So sick

[modest geyser]

.....?

[verbal wraith]

Huh

[warm temple]

U real?

[verbal wraith]

We are real, only unreal is unreal

[warm temple]

I mean these

[modest geyser]

yes what about them?

[warm temple]

Guys see these components v2 so sick

[peak halo]

sure

[tired obsidian]

They've been out for a long time

[warm temple]

Components v2 i mean

[dark moth]

messing around with junie this week

[warm temple]

I know now

[dark moth]

took some coaching but a pretty good job

at least once i figured out the junie tab works but the "ai chat" one is bad

[warm temple]

Guys can u tell me some things like cool things for my bot that come in DISCORD like components v2 @dark moth @tired obsidian @modest geyser

[sinful cargo]

Yo you have so many badges

[warm temple]

It's nice server for devloper

[tired obsidian]

Read the docs: https://docs.discord.com/developers/components/overview

[warm temple]

Oki :<

[serene wind]

guys whats a reasonable maxSize value for cached messages

[wraith snow]

!support

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[serene wind]

?

[dark moth]

this 100% depends on what you use it for and why

also often not even a good thing to use cause it doesn't persist across reboots

[serene wind]

server logs, sending a txt file of the message bulk deleted

[serene wind]

yes its cache

[lyric escarp]

quite concerning..

[fallow ridge]

how? there are bots that do this

[rapid jolt]

Does anyone know vercel here?

I checked out some websites for free bot hosting and it said "vercel"

[olive depot]

Bad checking you did

[rapid jolt]

Well, is that bad?

[olive depot]

Yes

For bot hosting

[peak halo]

Not sure what those websites are since every single one I could think of mentions

Vercel provides developer tools, frameworks, and cloud infrastructure to build and maintain websites.

just ask your question

no you didn't

if you have a development question, ask it directly.

no

and if you're looking to recruit someone, you're in the wrong place

[olive depot]

Create a post in #1478857869960019968 and list all your questions that actually makes sense and are relevant

[peak halo]

this is for you to ask questions here about your stuff

[olive depot]

No

[peak halo]

asking people to DM you is weird

screams scam and weird behavior

[jade current]

Why can't you just ask it here though

[olive depot]

Act nice

[peak halo]

<@&1050493473033289778> there we go

[olive depot]

Or, nvm

[verbal wraith]

I'm always late to the party

[olive depot]

It was instant @neat olive

[elder marsh]

[dark moth]

finally got all my nodes on the netbird network 😄

[cunning plume]

You've been working on that for a hot minute, like over a month ye?

[dark moth]

more like it didn't work before the talos plugin shipped an old netbird binary that had a bug in loading the needed env vars to get its token

and i haven't gotten around to updating my cluster till now

next up is backups of the cluster and then i can focus a lot more on the bot aspect again

[cunning plume]

My latest creation was creating this message sync system with cross-server connectivity and permissions handling. It ended up working waaaay better than I thought it would. Now I'm considering adding pin sync and channel topic sync

[cunning plume]

I went through a major refactor of my darned analytics data, 40m+ records, had to learn how to properly get som cron jobs running on my database to flatten them daily. 50+ GB of data. I burned up my usage that month haha xD

Still not big enough to need anything like you have yet, but perhaps one day

[dark moth]

see that's why i selfhost most things

more admin work, but no montly usage limits to sweat about

[olive depot]

What's the use-case?

[dark moth]

sure i can use backblaze for backups, but that's trusting them with it. same with hetzner s3 (that seems to be extremely unstable). while i (for now) still have an old server lying around i might as well repurpose it for s3 backup storage

and later i can see if its worth the cost to keep or not. but at least it means for now it remains in my control and i can more easily check if my encryption and other security layers work fine before considering putting backups in the cloud

like i can backup my pc to it as well and not worry much about snooping eyes. and then see if i from the server can access stuff myself or not

[dark laurel]

What happened to my discord

[cunning plume]

The use-case that I'm using it for is for two things.

• Decentralized trading of in-game items across multiple communities
• Gaming event between two competing gaming communities, eg a shared, connected chat.

[dark laurel]

??

[dark moth]

click on the violation to appeal it, this isn't the right place for it at all

[cunning plume]

Yeh show us the reason xD, don't be shy

[dark laurel]

Check it

[cunning plume]

Well nothing we can do about it either way my guy.

[dark moth]

let's not encourage pointless off topic

[dark moth]

see that "made a mistake, let us know" link? click it

[olive depot]

Nicheeeddd

[balmy basin]

i middlewared everything

[unborn elk]

@fossil sigil

[misty cipher]

Are there discord developers here? Or the discord security service?

[fierce mountain]

mod exam is off ?

[dark moth]

no, for secuirty reports see https://discord.com/security

[dark moth]

has been for many years

[fierce mountain]

yea

[misty cipher]

where can I complain about discord participants only in support?

[dark moth]

!report

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[dark moth]

discord does not have any form of live chat support not reporting

[fierce mountain]

yap your right

[misty cipher]

@dark moth thanks

[steel mulch]

guys whats the easiest ways to get commissions as a discord developer

[olive depot]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-ping-off-no-ping-reply-ping-gif-7694799882666584177

[patent carbon]

Fiverr

[rare marten]

so uh

how to get commands in my bot

[olive depot]

not the easiest though

[patent carbon]

You code them... What language and library are you using to make your bot?

[rare marten]

Idk

[neat olive]

sounds like you need to learn a programming language

[olive depot]

just realised why messages showing full date

[rare marten]

how is it 18 may 😭

[neat olive]

windows moment

[patent carbon]

Then how does your bot work? Did you make it or did you use some kind of "bot builder" service?

Or, did you just make a bot account in the dev portal and think that's it

[rare marten]

i made the bot but idk how to put commands

[modest geyser]

Do you know a programming language

[rare marten]

i tried looking for a way to put commands

[rare marten]

i know python and Lua a little bit

[patent carbon]

The dev portal is only to make the account. That's not a bot. A bot is code

[winged swan]

Vector *
init_vector(Arena *arena);

Vector *
init_vector_with_count(Arena *arena, const size_t count);

bool
resize_vector_array(Arena *arena, Vector *vector, const size_t new_count);

bool
append_item(Arena *arena, Vector *vector, const GenericItem item);

bool
pop_item(Arena *arena, Vector *vector, GenericItem *ret);

bool
pop_item_at_index(Arena *arena, Vector *vector, const size_t index, bool keep_order, GenericItem *ret);

bool
insert_item(Arena *arena, Vector *vector, const size_t index, const GenericItem item);

GenericItem *
slice_vector(Arena *arena, Vector *vector, const size_t start, const size_t stop);

Vector *
reverse_vector_new(Arena *arena, const Vector *vector);
```Having to pass the arena for each function is so weird bro 😭

[dark moth]

cool garage is working, dinner time and then hooking up a ui and actual backups 😄

[winged swan]

i would use a global arena but that's bad practice

[neat olive]

how does a cool garage work

[winged swan]

i think

[patent carbon]

So you haven't made a bot yet. You only made the bot account. It itself cannot actually do anything until you run code to make it work

If you know Python, I would recommend looking into discord.py or pycord (the second one I heard is better)

[dark moth]

it stores stuff

[rare marten]

oh ok thanks!

[neat olive]

cold storage?

[modest geyser]

Fun fact! Thats how class member functions work in C++

[dark moth]

backups, so freeze cold storage

[modest geyser]

internally they are just

returntype meow(class *this);

[dark moth]

just stack em and hope you never need them

[winged swan]

oh

[neat olive]

there's also e.g. discord.http

[winged swan]

what if I just assign the arena to the struct

[modest geyser]

and every member access gets translated to this->member

[winged swan]

interesting

[rapid jolt]

Its really easy to code bots nowadays with ai

[rare marten]

do i need to download it and how does it know my discord bot

[rare marten]

so i can use AI?

[rapid jolt]

You need to tell it what exactly you want. It might help you

[patent carbon]

... How much python experience do you have? Have you ever worked with an api?

[winged swan]

wdyt?
https://mystbin.abstractumbra.dev/53641920bd8d8a7e21

[rare marten]

whats an api

[patent carbon]

...

[rapid jolt]

You should learn it from youtube. It really helps

[rare marten]

i want a simple bot like the others just combined

[rare marten]

some youtube guy said that i can have 150 commands without coding

[verbal wraith]

Kitchen sink bot mentioned? 🗣️🔥

[patent carbon]

Simple is subjective if you don't know what an API is

You're going to need to learn a little more programming before you will be able to succeed in this task

[near crescent]

and why do you want 150 commands?

[rapid jolt]

Well, thats either a bot that was coded already or he is lying

[patent carbon]

^

150 commands in a single bot means 70% of them will never get used. And the 30% that are, aren't going to be that good

[modest geyser]

Looks fine

[dark moth]

sure you can, but will any of them be useful?

[rapid jolt]

Did you guys invent a new word? What is wdyt

[quiet saddle]

just what everyone needs. 150 commands made by someone who doesn't know anything about coding.

[rare marten]

well i want a specific commands but idk how to code them

[winged swan]

yippie

[patent carbon]

What do you think

[dark moth]

that's like saying "i can have 150 different meals without cooking". sure you can order that many, but what's the point?

[rare marten]

well uh

[rapid jolt]

I only have a bot that has welcoming system and leveling system and it just takes other bot's job

[rare marten]

what if ask chatoogt

[rapid jolt]

I dont really need a bot anymore

[patent carbon]

It'll still take you a long time

Even longer because you can't debug on your own

[near crescent]

again - what is the purpose

[rare marten]

well im getting paid for making this so uh...

[verbal wraith]

XD

[near crescent]

why do you want random 150 commands

[rapid jolt]

Paid?

[patent carbon]

Lol whoever is paying you is getting scammed I guess

[rare marten]

they might come in handy someday

[quiet saddle]

chatGPTgeneratedKitchenSinkSlopBot#2616

[rare marten]

ye

robux

[rapid jolt]

Lol

[verbal wraith]

Hell nah

[patent carbon]

Hahaha

[rapid jolt]

What will robux get you?

[modest geyser]

Nothing

[rare marten]

idk i can cash it

[olive depot]

fruits lmao

[quiet saddle]

tell that to your bank

[rare marten]

k

[near crescent]

you have no idea what you even want and your big argument for it is "might come in handy"?
if that's your goal, you may as well not start to begin with

[rare marten]

hm rbuhh

[near crescent]

not everyone has to be a programmer

[rare marten]

but i do ig

[near crescent]

you clearly have no interest in it at all, so why even bother?

[rare marten]

wdym

i do have insteretes

[olive depot]

because he is getting paid

[patent carbon]

Do you even want to learn? You've shown no signs to actually wanting to learn at all and just want to have AI do it

[modest geyser]

So basically.. you accepted a programming commission without wanting to or knowing how to program

[rare marten]

i ask where to do it

[verbal wraith]

Money is money

I mean... robux

[olive depot]

i would tooo

[rare marten]

what was the coding website again

[quiet saddle]

give your customer a refund

[rare marten]

no 😠

[patent carbon]

https://www.python.org/about/gettingstarted/

[quiet saddle]

this is embarrassing

[frigid ferry]

-# whoever thought you were the right choice chose wrong lol
Pick a programming language and go from there.
You will need to learn how to write code that interacts with discord.com
The client you are using to send messages right now is doing that behind the scenes with your account. You need to write your own version for your bot account to interact with discord.com to send and recieve data

[olive depot]

pretty sure he didn't paid right?

[quiet saddle]

that makes this even simpler lmao

[modest geyser]

anyways with qt what do yall think if my widget has another widget which gets signal should i handle the signal in that widget which would have to use members from the parent or should i just handle that signal in the parent

[rare marten]

ok so python.org

[patent carbon]

Is just one of many places to learn python

[rare marten]

i already know python little bit, i took a course

[patent carbon]

You will need a lot more knowledge to make a bot

[rapid jolt]

Codex helps i think?

[rare marten]

i just need to know how to make it correlate with my bot

[modest geyser]

i dont really know qt best practices but i think the former would make more sense

[patent carbon]

Like what an API is. How to work with async data. How to handle large systems in an application. And much more

[olive depot]

how to get approved for intents

[patent carbon]

Do you know what a token is and how it works?

[quiet saddle]

no

[rare marten]

i know what token is

[verbal wraith]

Be lucky

[olive depot]

ball knower

[patent carbon]

That's how your bot talks to discord

[tribal solar]

hmm

[rare marten]

so i just write that

[olive depot]

what do your client want?

[quiet saddle]

this shouldn't even be a sentence that is said

[patent carbon]

Probably [massive bot 1] and [massive bot 2] but combined

[hollow narwhal]

anyone know why I get this when trying to make a new application? I've tried refreshing and making another account but it still gives me this error

[rapid jolt]

Is this good or should i add something in the middle of the picture?

[olive depot]

and what will that massive bots do?

talk with other massive bots? hmmmm

[peak halo]

It's kinda wasted space and floods the channel

[modest geyser]

I HATE OOP frameworks

[peak halo]

So I'd either remove or make the space used for something relevant

[modest geyser]

i hate oop in general

[modest geyser]

me when dynamic_cast<MainWindow*>(parent())->member

[rapid jolt]

Discord warned me for direct messaging multiple people at the same time. Its not even my fault

And the warning lasts until 2028

[olive depot]

it is your fault

[rare marten]

A bot that sends welcome, leave, applying for the server like gives a role wehn join and it gives option of applying, /say, purge, ban, kick, warn, mute, give different roles, /operation that gives a specific message in a channel and fill the form

[rapid jolt]

I just wanted to talk with some people lol

[rugged vector]

didnt u had the same thing too?

[olive depot]

tell your client to buy sapphire subscription lol

[rapid jolt]

Didnt think discord would warn me for that long

[olive depot]

yep, a'int bullying him though

[rare marten]

but i ned money

[patent carbon]

So you should offer your services for things you know how to do

I don't sell my services on automotive repair because I can't do that

[rugged vector]

u just said “ it’s ur fault “

[hollow narwhal]

can someone help please

[rare marten]

hes my friend icl

[olive depot]

so the best way possible is :
Spend a year learning python, create a discord bot, and sell him.

[olive depot]

is it bullying?

[blissful dew]

Try changing the name

[rugged vector]

kinda

[patent carbon]

That makes it worse

You're scamming your friend

[hollow narwhal]

I tried that also

[rapid jolt]

How long did you get warned before?

[rare marten]

no...

[blissful dew]

Then idk :v

[olive depot]

i didnt got warned

[patent carbon]

You got paid to do something you don't know how to do

That is called a scam

[rare marten]

def not

[patent carbon]

@normal moth <@&1050493473033289778>

[rugged vector]

woah, <@&1050493473033289778>

[olive depot]

again, where do the interaction info shows up?

[patent carbon]

Right click. View Interaction Info

[rare marten]

in the area

[rapid jolt]

I only sent a gif god damn

[rugged vector]

u have a button that View’s it

[olive depot]

it didnt for me ig, or i missed

[neat olive]

I assume it was a bot but if it wasn't

[modest geyser]

qt is stupid why do i have to add the headers to the files to be compiled

well i do know why thats still just stupid i get vtable errors if i dont

file(GLOB_RECURSE src "./src/*.cpp" "./include/*.h" "./ui/*.ui")

i hate qt

[rapid jolt]

I get ideas from other servers, i am not that creative lol

I would make a gif though

[olive depot]

other servers weren't creative too

[peak halo]

I'd remove it if it serves no purpose

[rapid jolt]

How do you know?

[peak halo]

As a member it's annoying and floods the channel for absolutely nothing

[olive depot]

^^

[rare marten]

how to download python.org

its not working

[blissful dew]

[rapid jolt]

Did you go to the website already or no?

[patent carbon]

Welcome messages like that just make the channel harder to read. Even if it's a welcome channel

Plus, it doesn't make people feel special to get an identical message with a colorful image on it. That just happens to have their name

The welcome message doesn't even point to common resources for the server. It's nothing other than a "hello" that takes up the entire screen on mobile

[verbal wraith]

And pings for no reason probably too

[patent carbon]

If you want the image. Make it much shorter. And add something to it to make it personalized to the person joining

And add some information to it to make it serve a purpose

[rare marten]

i still dont get how

[olive depot]

even worse people adds dm on join with mutliple bots

[neat olive]

me when I use a native feature

(they're blanked out because the guild doesn't have a system messages channel configured)

[verbal wraith]

Full of ads ik

[patent carbon]

Its not something you're going to finish today. Learning coding can take weeks/months/years

And making a bot (even with experience) can take days/weeks or more depending on the scale or purpose of the bot

[rapid jolt]

I made it so that it only sends a message in the server. Not in dms

[rare marten]

no how to download the thing

[verbal wraith]

But still the purpose of it is minimal

[cunning plume]

Nothing like some visual hints to suggest how to use it 😄

[rugged vector]

why do even someone want to make a bot, i still don’t know

[rapid jolt]

Its only 1 ping, what could go wrong lol?

[patent carbon]

Did you read the guide I sent you? It has links and guides on how to install Python and then use it

[verbal wraith]

Pointless ping

[cunning plume]

You like to code? That's how.

[rapid jolt]

I can remove the ping if you dont suggest it

[rugged vector]

i do like coding too but making a bot for money, useless ( purpose of it shouldnt be money at least )

[verbal wraith]

You do you, I know there are people that hate being pinged

[patent carbon]

Thx souji

[rapid jolt]

I hate getting pinged yeah. I get "everyone" ping from like 5 servers at the same time.

[cunning plume]

Uhhh... i've made plenty of money coding for discord bots xD. If you think it's useless you should re-evaluate your expectations. I'm not making millions, but at least something I enjoy is making me money xD

[modest geyser]

okay it actually works

[cunning plume]

A whole lot of people will say "Making discord bots doesn't make money." and for 90% of people, that's true, because they don't build for users, the other 10% are making some and the top of that are making a lot.

[rapid jolt]

But its not that important if its just a single ping. The bot doesnt ping anyone after that

[modest geyser]

void MainWindow::onConnectClick(){
  auto widget = qobject_cast<ListItemWidget*>(sender()->parent());
  std::println("button click from label {}", widget->ui.label->text().toStdString());
}

[patent carbon]

When I join a server and I get a welcome message ping. I reconsider being in that server. It just immediately tells me a lot about the server

[olive depot]

select winners?

[olive depot]

same when i see mee6

[daring wasp]

i am still not even done with the payloads for the message object 😭

[rugged vector]

well, it’s right but i didn’t said discord bots doesnt make money, i said the purpose of making a bot shouldnt be money in first place

[rare marten]

it was called pycharm

[patent carbon]

Ya. That's a popular python IDE

[cunning plume]

Why? You go to work to make money. If someone is inspired to build a bot to make money it's just another job to them. That's gatekeeping asf lol

[rapid jolt]

Alright i am removing the ping

[cunning plume]

Ehh well im integrating a ton of my bot actions into the message builder so people can construct realtime actions, as part of their messages. In this context it's a giveaway panel.

[rugged vector]

most of the bot developers who starts cause wants to earn money doesnt make good ones u know

[rapid jolt]

I make a bot for fun. I dont even get paid at all lol

[olive depot]

that looks complex as a user, like they are basically making a giveaway flow on their own, not getting it as existing module?

[patent carbon]

100% agree

Anyone who is making a discord bot for the money is in the wrong place. Maybe one day it becomes profitable but there's slim chances of that. Just make a bot because you enjoy it

[cunning plume]

Now that much is true. I'd agree with that whole heartedtly. I think if you want to make money building discord bots, you have to be inspired by it. Plainly doing it for the sake of money alone usually leads to worse outcomes. My entire bot is a passion project, and it shows. As a result people pay me for that passion, not necessarily the bot itself. They could get 50% of the functionality elsewhere, likely for cheaper or free.

I almost have 100% of containers covered. so so close lol

[olive depot]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

[low tundra]

lot of dedication for the passion
-# happy to see it

[slender slate]

No
Bot brings users
Users bring money

[patent carbon]

Ya. Not much money

[slender slate]

Alot

[patent carbon]

You'd made more money working at McDonald's 40h a week, statistically speaking

[slender slate]

Sponsorships,
Selling services
Etc

[glass vortex]

Always depends on what your bot does and the potential user base I guess

[olive depot]

selling server-sepcfic bots to server owners will be more profitable than creating a public bot with subscriptions

[slender slate]

yeah like 300k is enough

[versed creek]

Ok bro you are not from fsociety

[slender slate]

Or a quarter million

[patent carbon]

Lol

[glass vortex]

Users or dollars?

[slender slate]

No
All you need is users
Get them
Force them to join channel
And sponsor in channel or in bot
Daily 1 sponser = 100$

[olive depot]

lmao

[patent carbon]

Mfw "leave server" button

[rugged vector]

there is servers make more money with selling roles u know

[slender slate]

Wdym

[daring wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/a4c712-dashera4c-nonchalant-gamer-i'm-speechless-speechless-gif-13022095084831385298

[versed creek]

Bump bots earn more than this and have huge market capture in terms of ads they can sell out many spots for ads and stuff just make the best bump bot

[slender slate]

No
Just saying you can make money through discord bots

[rugged vector]

well, u can but not the way u think

[daring wasp]

You can make money, yes

[olive depot]

all you need is users
very easy
Force them
why would they listen you and join server for no reason
sponsor in channel
find sponsors first, and 100$? for discord ahh audience ? lmao

[slender slate]

If they did not
Don’t let them use bot

[versed creek]

Till discord lasts is till I last

[slender slate]

Yeah
Websites clicks
Other sponsorships etc

[olive depot]

they are not dying to use your bot lol

[slender slate]

Then why are they 300k

Like
Tiktok video downloader

[olive depot]

pov: me in toilet at 3am

[versed creek]

You arent seeing it like that discord users were at peak during covid

[slender slate]

That’s u

[versed creek]

There are bots in dead servers

[slender slate]

I’m just saying you can make money through discord bots

[olive depot]

good luck doing to so

[slender slate]

Ya’ll agreed
Let’s move on to something else

[versed creek]

You dont have smth diff and you are not even a early bird

[slender slate]

Also I have to take down E-corp

[versed creek]

😳with all this social anxiety you arent lasting bro just get your things and talk to shaila

[dawn plinth]

Hi, am I the only one who noticed voice channels no longer show a list of users leaving vc at the bottom?

[rapid jolt]

I see people selling discord role icons for more than 6 dollars😆

[slender slate]

I don’t have social anxiety

[rugged vector]

i wonder if those who have this Elliot profile really use morphine ( its impossible to have this mind without drugs )

[versed creek]

:3

[slender slate]

Introverts do have

[versed creek]

😭

[slender slate]

Without drugs

[rugged vector]

in the e-gangster servers they make hella money

[versed creek]

Are you a 1 or a 0

[rugged vector]

just selling them

[slender slate]

idk what’s 1 or 0

[versed creek]

Bro is going to be on ntts video

[versed creek]

Bro doesnt know the ref

[rugged vector]

u said it twice this week

i’m gonna hold ur hand while i say this

[slender slate]

I’m not gen z

[versed creek]

Are you spying on me

[versed creek]

The ref is from mr robot when he asks elliot is he a 1 or a 0 he is going to do it or not

[rugged vector]

u suck

[versed creek]

Ok bro

;3

[serene wind]

guys whats a reasonable maxSize value for cached messages

for a scalable bot

[slender slate]

I don’t watch my own movies

[neat olive]

depends entirely on what you're caching those messages for

[rugged vector]

not tuff g

[serene wind]

message and bulk message delete logs

[versed creek]

Logs?

[serene wind]

yes

im doing 200 which is alr for now but for scaling its not alr

[neat olive]

at what point do you not care about messages being deleted anymore?

[serene wind]

for moderation and evidences, what some malicious member sent ?

[neat olive]

as in time

[serene wind]

or some context of a issue that happened in chat

server mods need it as requested

[neat olive]

for this type of thing you'd keep a time based on time rather than message count

for what span of time do you need this info for?

[serene wind]

so infinite message getting replaced each 10 min ?

[neat olive]

if you only need them for 10 minutes, yes

[serene wind]

i said for scaling so we wanna work with every type of server

[neat olive]

you'd keep a rolling cache of however long you need them for

[neat olive]

which is why you'd want to keep these based on an amount of time rather than message count

[verbal wraith]

200 messages on big servers is not that much as on small servers

[serene wind]

200 messages is nothing, but its per channel, and if u multiply it by many servers

it gets to gigabytes of ram usage

[serene wind]

i think u have it, but having both would be the best
setting a max message count and a time based sweeping because some active servers can have thousands of messages easily

[neat olive]

if you set a message cap your bot quickly becomes useless on any active enough server

[weary bluff]

man, they designed dia so useful ngl

[neat olive]

i.e. unless the messages moderation cares about happen in a very quick span of time that they can react to, well, it's useless

[peak halo]

"some bug fixes"

sees the diff

[limpid mango]

what's better, vsc or xcode

[verbal wraith]

[peak halo]

different purposes

[daring wasp]

some

[weary bluff]

wellllll

[limpid mango]

what's the purpose of xcode, i'm not using os so i dont know

[peak halo]

Building apps for apple devices

[weary bluff]

it was some bug fixes at first, then I saw there is another bugs happening in that area so 😔

[peak halo]

[blissful sequoia]

its mainly for building apps for apple devices, since thats the only option to make them, but im pretty sure it can be used as a normal code editor too

[neat olive]

what kind of bug requires tens of thousands of changes to fix

[peak halo]

the only option to make them

It isn't

You can code in Dart with VSC or other editors as well

You need xcode components but no need to use xcode itself

[olive depot]

ai generated bugs

[blissful sequoia]

thats not making apps for ios then, thats making cross-platform apps, but im pretty sure you still have to compile with xcode

[peak halo]

Cross platform apps are for the platforms they're compiled for

An app being cross platform is an app for a platform as well, it's not because it's not made in Swift that it's not an app for iOS

Otherwise lots of apps wouldn't be for lots of platforms

[blissful sequoia]

well yes, this one included

-# although originally it did have two builds

[peak halo]

You can use Dart and make it fully for iOS only

It's for iOS, just like supporting it with cross compilation

[serene wind]

to put that in perspective 5,000 servers x 2channels x 50message per channel = 500,000 messages = 2.5GB at least for normal messages like hello, not if u count gif urls, long messages..

[modest geyser]

this looks ugly

[neat olive]

and that amounts to 20 minutes of chat history on this channel, and on a more active server we could be talking about tens of seconds of chat history

[neat olive]

on the other hand an hour of chat history on this discord as a whole amounts to 157 messages

(50 messages per channel on this guild would amount to up to 1050 messages with just public channels, and as mentioned that amounts to, at worst, 20 minutes of chat history)

[tardy plaza]

i am fully ditching windows today and moving to fedora

regrets it immediately

[neat olive]

also, the cache does not need to be in memory, and even if it is in memory... well, RAM isn't that expensive (and surely you can monetize)

[vestal fractal]

I mean this direct control of Enum's call, and wouldn't it also mean I'd have to subclass that instead of builtin (not a huge deal though)

[heavy arrow]

Should I lowkey switch my db from mongo to postgresql....

[dark moth]

progress! 😄

[patent carbon]

I mean. Relational DBs are typically better... But are you getting performance/storage problems?

[olive depot]

Postgres 🔛 🔝

[rancid drift]

Good job

[heavy arrow]

Oh well, I'm thinking of like redis set-up for cache and then using postgres

I mean technically we don't need to cache everything..

[heavy arrow]

Modern reactjs, nextjs frameworks are like.. much better than old school java frameworks

Might as well switch to something that's updated

[floral rapids]

would it be possible to know why you didn't go with minio

[dark moth]

a very long list of reasons

starting with it being archived and unsupported

[floral rapids]

as far as what i understood, minio's github repository is the only archived one, the free license currently is entreprise just some stuff (not really good features) being locked

[dark moth]

they removed a bunch of stuff right before, messed with lisencing and such

[untold iris]

What does partitions mean in this case? 😆

[dark moth]

there is no reason to think they won't make it even worse or properly support free users after all they have done

[floral rapids]

fair enough

[dark moth]

plus this is for backups, not public use

[floral rapids]

where do we request a copy :kekw

[heavy arrow]

Is this just the front end till now orrr

[dark moth]

firefox pls, this isn't on my pc

[heavy arrow]

Oh well

[dark moth]

the urls are not even accessible outside my vpn network 😛

also anyone can install garage, it's not that difficult

[heavy arrow]

-# It's not even public but okay

[dark moth]

my issue was more tying it together in a way that both my pc and the cluster can talk to it over the same urls, including http(s)

so that if i ever need to fall back on the backups for cluster disaster recovery, i don't need to first in panic mode figure out how the heck to get data out of the backup server without going through the cluster ingress

[floral rapids]

a bit of a off-topic question, is there a reason you decided to go with garage-api an not api.garage 🤔 i've been noticing this way too many times and it's been annoying me as to how i'm unable to understand this

[dark moth]

not having to setup a new cert

i have a wildcard setup for *.gear.industries

[modest geyser]

Dbus is horrible

[dark moth]

but for api.garage i would need to setup a new cert, i was just being lazy

[floral rapids]

i see

[dark moth]

especially since it wasn't working so i didn't wana setup a cert for something that doesn't even work yet and wasn't sure would work like i wanted to

[floral rapids]

aight fair enough

thank you

[dark moth]

test files received 😄

[quiet saddle]

The plot thickens

[cunning coyote]

gm

[patent carbon]

gm

[viscid steppe]

Grand master

[feral root]

gm

[dark moth]

ok so uploading backups isn't fast (at least not from my pc), but hey it works

[heavy arrow]

Even claude gave up

[dark moth]

and tbh who cares, its backups

if you are in trouble cause your backup takes a while, then your backup strategy is bad

[neat olive]

and if you're in trouble because your backup takes a while to restore something funny happened

[peak halo]

W using a localhost self signed cert for a public event

[cunning coyote]

but do you follow the 321 backup method

[neat olive]

I follow the 000 backup method

[dark moth]

yes, now i got an off site backup 😄

[cunning coyote]

🙌🏻

[dark moth]

old repurposed server

[cunning coyote]

this is the way

[dark moth]

cpu from like 2015 or so, 1333mz dd3 ram

[neat olive]

0 backups in 0 types of storage in 0 locations

[cunning coyote]

[neat olive]

testing in prod btw

[dark moth]

so it aint doing great in the benchmarks, but it runs

[neat olive]

(I don't know what testing means)

[quiet saddle]

RAID 0, 0 redundancies, 0 offsite backups

[dark moth]

and that's all i need out of a backup server

[neat olive]

oh that's good

[cunning coyote]

i have a storage server running unraid that i use for backups

[heavy arrow]

"000 backup method"

[dark moth]

server is raid6, cause mixed capacity drives

i have a small nas but its in the back room. so doesn't really help for anything other then "pc power supply exploded and took the drive with it"

[cunning coyote]

yeah

[dark moth]

but now i got this, where both my nas and the gear cluster can use use backup target

[quiet saddle]

a RAID0 setup with this would be peak

[dark moth]

lol

[pale rapids]

[red geyser]

hey guys, how to get the join button on server? does it have to be discoverable or

after pressing on guild tag

[dark moth]

got metrics sorted as well

gona leave cluster and nas backup for tomorrow though, getting a bit late

[dense finch]

I need help

[verbal wraith]

[vivid pebble]

yo guys, do you advise to make a public discord bot with js?

or use something like py

[patent carbon]

which do you know better?

use that one

[fiery fulcrum]

Guys I’m on a trip

[verbal wraith]

Good for you

[fiery fulcrum]

My legs are cramp as my grandpa and my mom is going places that doesn’t lead to the highway

And I’m getting McDonald’s

[blissful sequoia]

yes it has to be discoverable

[red geyser]

alr ty

[night tapir]

Is the @time on desktop ever coming to mobile? Idk if there is a plan or open discussion but I am curious because I have not seen anything about it.

[patent carbon]

they dont really give a heads up on things like that

so maybe? maybe not

[dark moth]

given how few featuers ever make it to mobile, unlikely

but even if it comes, it'll just show up one day. they don't announce those things

[winter sluice]

hey guys Anyone know what Discord usually wants for privileged intents approval? Mine got denied even though I explained my bot features and why I need them, so I’m trying to understand what they actually look for.

[patent carbon]

they want something unique and compelling... something they think is worth the risks to user privacy

[cosmic laurel]

Hey, My account recently got disabled and i managed to recover it but discord didnt recover my username, and now its unavailable and no one claimed it, What can i do to get it back?

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[cosmic laurel]

So i should open a ticket?

[patent carbon]

they have never and will never give a checklist for what they are looking for

[patent carbon]

no one here can help you with that... contact support

[cosmic laurel]

Alright

[winter sluice]

yea they said in the deny email "This is because we are only providing access to our privileged gateway intents to power unique, compelling, user-facing functionality" but i still cant understand like there a lot of bad bots and they still get verifed?

[dark moth]

verification and intentes are completely unrelated

[winter sluice]

ye sry i meant intenets

[dark moth]

also if you think bots abuse the system, report it. if nobody reports it then nothing will be done

and "worse person then me got it so i should get it" is a truely garbage argument tbh

[winter sluice]

no i dont mean abusing the system i mean they said in the eamil "power unique, compelling, user-facing functionality" and is that +18 bots are really power unique and user facing functionality

[winter sluice]

yea i see your point

[dark moth]

lol no that's not what this is about in the slightest

18+ in itself is completely irrelevant when it comes to intents

[patent carbon]

ya. i have no idea what being an 18+ bot has to do with intents

[dark moth]

the only thing that matters is that there is no alternative way to do it

text based commands are completely invalid cause there are interactions now

[winter sluice]

they said in the eamil power unique and user facing functionality😅 mb if i misunderstood

[dark moth]

presence intent to show online/offline in an info commmand? people can just click on the user to see it

it needs to provide value to the user, and be unique as in the client doesn't already do it

[winter sluice]

can i send what i said to them in short?

[arctic stream]

Guys

[winter sluice]

if you can read them🙏

[dark moth]

members intent won't be given just so you can count the members, discord shows it in multple places for example

sure

[arctic stream]

Can I emply dc devs here?

[patent carbon]

we cant give you an official answer about it, but we can say what we might have guessed is the reason it was denied

[patent carbon]

https://dis.gd/jobs

[dark moth]

or we might now some alternatives you can use

[arctic stream]

They pay u?

[winter sluice]

### Intent 1 Message Content Intent
* use 1 AI Conversation System Mira is an AI chatbot with over 90 different anime personalities. Users talk to her by mentioning @Mira or replying to her messages
* use 2 PvP Battle Challenge Typing Usernames In the battle system, users can challenge friends by typing their username instead of using @mention. After clicking the "Challenge" button, the bot asks "Mention them or type their username:". The user types a name like "CoolGuy123", the bot reads the message, then uses guild.get_member_named() to find that user in the server
* use 3 Text-Based Games The bot has several games where users must type their answers. The riddle game shows a puzzle and users type the solution. The flag game displays a flag emoji and users type the country name. The typing speed game shows a word and users must type it exactly. The math game shows an equation and users type the answer. All 
### Intent 2 Presence Intent
* use 1  Currently, when players queue for ranked battles, the matchmaker sometimes pairs them with opponents who are offline or away from keyboard. This lead to wasted time and frustrated players because the battle ends in an AFK timeout instead of an actual fight.
With the Presence Intent, my matchmaker can check if a player is actually online before sending them a challenge
### Intent 3 Members Intent
* use 1 PvP Battle System - Challenge Mode (/battle) When users type a username instead of using @mention, Mira searches the server using guild.get_member_named() to find that person
* use 2 Server Leaderboard  This shows ranking of all users by message count
* use 3 User Activity Analytics This command analyzes how active a specific user has been
* use 4 Server Activity Monitor (Boredom Messages) Monitors when servers go quiet for 12
* use 5 Marriage System (/marry, /divorce, /partner)```

[patent carbon]

if you work for discord? yes... but they're competative jobs...

[dark moth]

1. ai conversation: not needed at all. if the bot is mentioned it gets the content as well, also interactions are a thing
2. pvp doesn't need it in any way, it can be a command with user param
3. type answers: just use a button with a modal interaction

[patent carbon]

looks like none of that needs intents from my quick glance... you already get the message content from replying, and you can fetch member data by ID or it's supplied by a slash command payload

[arctic stream]

Bro idk these

What program dc bots use

Liek lua or python or html

[patent carbon]

any programming language

[dark moth]

for intents: you clearly don't even know what presence intent is. why are you mentioning message count or mariage here???

please read up on what intents are and what you can do with the api first

also "analyszes how active a user has been": massive red flag for user privacy

[winter sluice]

alr

ok tysm @dark moth and @patent carbon 🙏 i will try fix this

[jade current]

Technically it's just the same though. I only split IntEnum into int, Enum to actually get the base class for member values, if that's what you meant

__new__() nor __init__() wouldn't be used on this one 'cause they aren't called for lookups, if I remember

[dark moth]

oh hey benchmark is done, looks like my s3 maxes out at between 5-6MB/s

not amazing but meh

good enough for now

[neat olive]

well, technically yes but some languages are used more commonly than others

[patent carbon]

is that for write or read?

[dark moth]

write, seems like read is starting

[neat olive]

I wouldn't recommend using lua for example

[dark moth]

will take another bit to complete

[neat olive]

(and of course html isn't a programming language by itself, so it's right out)

[patent carbon]

read seems more important for actually using said backups

[dark moth]

not exactly sure where the bottleneck is as doesn't seem like anything maxed out but for my usecase i doubt its worth the effort of spending too much time trying to fix it

or well improve, cause it works

initial backup is gona take a while but it's not like i generate 100GB of data a day

so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

hmm, seems like my isp is the bottleneck atm

guess i need to rerun this tomorrow but from a vps

[winter sluice]

also quick question about the application. Is it important to include a video/demo of the bot when applying for Privileged Intents agaian, or is it fine if it’s not included?

[dark moth]

it can help a lot but the biggest things is to only show relevant things

if you start out by mentioning and showing 5 things that are invalid or irrelevant, they might not stick around till usecase 29 that is actually the first valid one

[winter sluice]

Got it, that makes sense. I’ll make sure to only include the most relevant use cases and keep the application focused so it’s easier to understand without unnecessary details. Thanks

[patent carbon]

it's not really about being hard to understand... but more the fact that if you explain things that aren't relevant to the intent, theyre just going to assume you don't understand what the intents are

but ya... good luck on your next request... maybe look into your bot and see what systems don't need it or rework them to not use them anymore

[winter sluice]

I understand. Thanks for clarifying that.

[winter sluice]

thanks . will do that

[sleek beacon]

Hello, I need help.

I am trying to verify my identity to complete the verification process for my Discord bot, but the system is not allowing me to continue even though I already completed all the required steps.

The request was submitted several days ago, and I still cannot properly complete the identity verification process.

Could someone please help me or tell me what I can do?

[lethal pier]

!support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[pale hull]

Has anyone ever made a mobile app? If so do you have any recommendations on how to get started? I am looking some stuff up online right now but someone else might have experience

[peak halo]

for flutter, the docs are amazing

for the barbone Java/Kotlin or Swift, never really made any

[pale hull]

The online says I should just make a web app

[peak halo]

Yeah that's the alternative, it really depends what the target audience is and for what

[untold bluff]

Hello guys i have bit of truble i have Discord bot for my friend and i have /clear command for messages and i have it seted up user need manage messages access and everyone have that role with that permision can use command but one user dont see that command even in command list idk what to do

[peak halo]

Some things are definitely better on web and other on a native app

[lethal pier]

have the specific user reload their discord client

[pale hull]

The target audience is me, the grocery store I work at does a pretty bad job and keep track of the stock of our premade salads. I thought it might be an interesting problem to solve. But I also would likely not suggest they actually use it.

[peak halo]

I'd probably make a web app if you're more confident doing one

The only main difference would be that you don't want to expose the web app to everyone if it's just for you

So there a mobile app sort of comes in handy

[patent carbon]

but you dont have to deal with building and signing executables

[peak halo]

You don't with mobile apps either

If you're not distributing it, as mentioned, you don't need to sign it

[warm cloud]

hi guys how long does intents verification takes

[patent carbon]

oh ya fair

[peak halo]

over a month, just wait

[warm cloud]

bru

i wait 1 month now hope it works soon i wanna release

[patent carbon]

just based on people who talk here, possibly 6+ weeks

[peak halo]

over* was important

[peak halo]

yah

[pale hull]

Ah this is true. I think for a simple project like this though it will be fine.

I guess I do have to host a web app separately tho

[warm cloud]

if i get denied i will cry

[patent carbon]

we can give you advise on your request to give our personal guess on if youd get approved or not... but obviously not an official answer

[pale hull]

Then hopefully you provided solid and valid reasons 😉

[warm cloud]

i write letters

😳

[dusty zinc]

were the reely sever for disc

[pale hull]

Well that's better then just numbers and symbols

[dusty zinc]

were the reely sever for disc

[patent carbon]

stop spamming

[dusty zinc]

am ask dont spam

[untold marten]

Omg why can’t i send messages

[patent carbon]

automod says why

[warm cloud]

look his bio it’s normal 🤨

[untold marten]

I’m saying “hi” it says it’s blocked🥀

[spring hollow]

automod says why it's blocked

[patent carbon]

yes. it is

[near crescent]

As stated in the automod message, please help us keep conversations meaningful and enjoyable. We've had issues with people just chaining "hi"'s for extended periods of time, which made chats spammy and diverge from the actual topic.

[untold marten]

Is there a channel where i can request help on some?

[patent carbon]

is it development related help?

[warm cloud]

hi souji

[untold marten]

Python for apps

[patent carbon]

then you can ask here or #1478857869960019968

[untold marten]

K i have created

[sacred oak]

why are you pinging randoms in the member list

[patent carbon]

<@&1050493473033289778> slur

[misty pulsar]

why cant i send anything here

[patent carbon]

read the automod message

[misty pulsar]

like not saying hello and stuff

[spring hollow]

#dev-chat message

[misty pulsar]

basically says not a social server

[patent carbon]

its not

[misty pulsar]

whats this server about

[patent carbon]

coding

[misty pulsar]

i get that point

cant we talk about coding

[pale hull]

Hmmm I'm conflicted. Even people in the java server recommend a web app from past questions.

[patent carbon]

we can... do you have a question or thing to talk about?

[misty pulsar]

i dont

[pale hull]

Maybe I should just make it a discord bot. Both native and web app requires frontend

[patent carbon]

Doesn't have to be a fancy frontend, just plan HTML would probably be fine

[near crescent]

i mean, depends on what your goal is

[hoary wasp]

Hey y'all I am new I still making a bot because I don't know too very much and how to make the bot 24h?

[tired obsidian]

Rent a VPS and host the bot there

[hoary wasp]

Uhh

[tired obsidian]

#1478860733365354687 message

[hoary wasp]

Sorry I didn't understand

[tired obsidian]

A VPS is a virtual private server. It's a computer in the cloud that you rent and run your bots on

[hoary wasp]

Ohh

Sad I don't have money -

Nevermind -

[patent carbon]

if you have a card of some kind, you can use something like Oracle Cloud or Google Cloud to get a free trial

[hoary wasp]

Omg me still new and confusing -

I did understand some parts but others-

[patent carbon]

What parts did you not understand?

[torpid kayak]

Hello everybody I’m developer Brazilian and I’m not speak English so mutch sorry

[median stratus]

S

[patent carbon]

welcome... don't worry about difficulties with english... we are used to communicating either with broken english or with a translator

[tired obsidian]

Many native English speakers (myself included) suck at English sometimes

[polar viper]

true, caught myself typing "mekes no sence" in an email to my instructor

[daring wasp]

buh i just woke up to no electricity and my phone at 8%

[polar viper]

how it feels to take a nap at 4PM

[modest geyser]

Damn im getting better at doing guis with qt

I still hate it

[patent carbon]

maukkis the frontend dev... i could never image the day

[modest geyser]

meowtooth can now pair devices

[pliant tartan]

i hate how unthemed every qt app looks

like it doesnt look like theres a theme at all

at least with gtk it looks... pretty

[modest geyser]

I mean qt apps theme is mainly decided by your systems theme

If i was on kde it would use breeze or breeze dark or whatever i selected

[pliant tartan]

qt apps only look semi-fine on KDE

anywhere else they look terrible

[modest geyser]

You have to configure qt

[pliant tartan]

yeah nobodys doing that

[modest geyser]

True

[hoary wasp]

Não te preocupes eu consigo te traduzir

[patent carbon]

they will have to translate for themselves... as this is an english only server
#rules

[hoary wasp]

Oh sorry😔

[marsh topaz]

how does one get there discored server on the community page

[polar viper]

needs to be discoverable (1k+ as well as all the other requirements)

[torpid kayak]

What

[torpid kayak]

Muito obrigado meu amigo

[hoary wasp]

Please use english refer to see the #rules

[torpid kayak]

What

Oh no o my god

[marsh topaz]

we have 969

[marsh topaz]

969

[polar viper]

okay

that's still under 1k, so

[trim geode]

I'm thinkin about getting the Yubikey 5 USB C version. I have the older Yubikey but like...nothing I have is USB A now...so i just don't use it except for very specific things...

Anyone use hardware keys and have recommendations?

feel the yearly itch to upgrade my security

[pale hull]

Can anyone give me a brief background on what the point of com.companyname.x.y.z is. I have mostly seen it in Java related projects

[patent carbon]

You asking why they do it backwards like that or what the point of naming it ext.company.x.y.z?

Cuz the former... Dunno really. There's probably a technical reason why they name them backwards for some JVM reason

The latter, it's just namespace naming convention to ensure to packages don't collide

[pale hull]

Ah ok, namespaceing

TBH I dont like that as much as python

[wicked ravine]

reverse dns naming is pretty common and essentially gets more granular the further you go, Tim Berners Lee has said he actually regrets enforcing the traditional dns naming convention in URLs instead of reverse.

forward dns is kinda the backwards one, as it goes (very specific api).(specific github).(general com)/(gradually more specific again v1/repo/pulls)

whereas reverse dns would use com.github.api/v1/repo/pulls

[patent carbon]

that..... makes a lot of sense

[pale hull]

The main thing that I dont like about it is that it is a web domain. Is it valid to not include the extension and just do team_name.x.y.z

My laptop is not enjoying building a flutter porject while also emulating a google pixel

[fresh lichen]

@safe elbow

[hollow crow]

Hey, I am wondering if the "manage members" permission exists. I'm working on permissions for my bot, and I see that "manage members" is an option for required permission, but I am not seeing this as a permission assignable to roles.

[patent carbon]

I believe it's this one

[hollow crow]

I just looked it up on google, and it seems they seperated it into mute, kick, ban, etc.

I guess the website I'm using is just outdated

[patent carbon]

oh ya... checking the docs... that permission does not exist anymore at all

[hollow crow]

And the other websites that do the same thing don't have the "manage members" permission

I just searched discord permission calculator on google

[patent carbon]

so ya, it's 2 separate permissions now

• KICK_MEMBERS [ 1 << 1 ]
• BAN_MEMBER [ 1 << 2 ]

Docs: https://docs.discord.com/developers/topics/permissions#permissions-bitwise-permission-flags

[hollow crow]

Ok, thanks

[sacred oak]

when did it?
i never remember it being 1 perm

[patent carbon]

i legitimately dont remember... i just remember the client and the api having mismatches between the 2 for that... just dont remember if the api changed or the client

[vital falcon]

👋🏻

[native pilot]

kick and ban perms never changed

[hushed stirrup]

I've spent the last week completely overhauling my event system & moving all some packages to new plugins 🙏🏻

Finally it is done

[sacred oak]

Thought so

I struggle to remember a time where it did

[patent carbon]

idk im just crazy

[pale hull]

Well, using dart does not seem that hard. A bit like JS which is not my favorite though

[patent carbon]

blasphemy... js is great

[pale hull]

Why have a typed language when you can just use type inferences all over

Related to dart, idk about js

[patent carbon]

exactly... happy you understand

[quiet saddle]

js doesn't even really have type inference though

[pale hull]

See message below

[cunning pecan]

-# Hi there! Help us keep conversations meaningful here by not sending single word messages. Contribute to the conversation or ask technical questions!

[pale hull]

The forbidden word 👀

[quiet saddle]

unreal is allowed to say it

best mod perk honestly

[cunning pecan]

When you see "See message below", man

[pale hull]

It has been many a month since I have seen it uttered here

[cunning pecan]

Gotta jump in

[patent carbon]

admin aboos using the illegal word

[pale hull]

I meant below the message madaline replied to

[cunning pecan]

[quiet saddle]

you should have said:

"See message below the message referenced by your message"

[cunning pecan]

But hey now that the hi is shoved up out of view by latest messages...

[quiet saddle]

LOL

[pale hull]

April fools day next year. No hi auto mod. Let there be chaos.

[cunning pecan]

Nah, gotta keep the automod real

[quiet saddle]

No, just reverse it. Only permit messages that start with hi, otherwise send the automod "hi response"

[pale hull]

Welp bedtime for me, work tomorrow morning then I should have some time to finish learning dart before I get into flutter. If not tomorrow I will the next day

[true terrace]

I hope April month is already passed away for this year 2026

[little berry]

Ello, how's everyone?

[jade current]

That's so unreal

[prisma sinew]

Goodnight.

[cinder sedge]

Devs

If here mc devs plz help me

[jade current]

Just ask

[patent carbon]

you might not get an answer, given this isnt a minecraft development server... but at least ask

[cinder sedge]

When I am joining my server there is showing

Disconnected error

But this isn't bcz of net and all

I tried all things

But it's isn't fixed

[cinder sedge]

I have asked

See in up

[patent carbon]

and i did say you might not get an answer... because we're not minecraft devs

[cinder sedge]

Hmm 😭

[patent carbon]

i have no idea how to help you... but you could try asking in the official minecraft server, the ftb server, or the forge server... there's so many minecraft discord servers, at least one of them can offer better assistance

but our original point was dont ask "is there any mc devs here" because that is not really a question... it's the preface to a question... just skip it and go straight to the question

https://dontasktoask.com explains that in better detail

[cinder sedge]

Ohh ok

[tranquil tulip]

How do i made my bot so he supports cv2

[tranquil tulip]

Sry my english is not straight
My english is 👬🏻

[flint epoch]

Using Message Components

[patent carbon]

this is the official docs about how to use components v2

[tranquil tulip]

👍🏻

[jade current]

Hi Opal Badger

[patent carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/badger-gif-25490247

[jade current]

Me starting to learn Python classes today

[solid wind]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[verbal wraith]

Real

[true terrace]

How are you'll

[jade current]

It's true </3

[true terrace]

Hey guys , I'm going to spent full day being active on here , kindly send me games or growth strategy

[quiet saddle]

[void notch]

yo yo yoooo

anyone here ?

[jade current]

I don't think so

[quiet saddle]

nope

[void notch]

fahh

[proper tiger]

nice

[void notch]

I am learning Python just started anyone help me in some things

[void notch]

what happend ?

[runic field]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[void notch]

ig we shuld not to go on any random links

go to *

fahhhh

[proper tiger]

nothing just see my role

s

[void notch]

nothing good in that

[runic field]

Reading the embed is more than enough to see the point of it.

[proper tiger]

yeah i know

[void notch]

LOL

[proper tiger]

sorry about that

[runic field]

The point is... just ask. You don't need to look for experts.

[void notch]

ok

i = 1
while i <= 5:
print(i)
# I think I'm missing something here to make it stop?

what is wrong in this 😉

[jade current]

You're not incrementing i

[pallid bloom]

w

[tropic sandal]

So, a big thing you'll learn is how to set through code line by line so you can figure out what's happening. Doing that here will make it pretty clear, so we're gonna do it together.

• You set the variable I equal to 1
• You start a while loop that runs as long as I is less than or equal to 5.
• i is currently 1, so we enter the loop
• Print i, which is one
• Restart the loop. Evaluate whether i is less that or equal to 5. It is, enter the loop.
• Print i, which is still one
• Repeat, forever.

So, we see why it will never stop, because i will never be greater than 5. In order to stop the loop, you have to do something inside of it to change i. The usual way to go about this would be to increment i each time the loop runs, by setting i equal to i plus 1, for example.

[verbal wraith]

[daring wasp]

i was going to add atleast payloads for components but I feel like I should just skip it and store as a normal dict :p

[warped pond]

Y'all mind if I ask a general question in here for a tech buy im considering I need opinions. Poll: Trying to decide between steam deck oled and ASUS ROG AllyX help me decide

[solid wind]

steam deck is less powerful but is pretty universally recommended over the ally from what ive seen