dev-chat

[near crescent]

keep the shitposting out of here please, thanks.

[vestal fractal]

wait yeah i shouldve thought about it

[peak halo]

that's for what dedicated servers are

which obviously cost more

[vestal fractal]

well looks like shared hosting is "bad" enough to not be liked by discord according to you innit

[floral rapids]

probably
you never know if they are or not

fairly sure there was one more question

[verbal wraith]

Time to make a time machine and find out

Also claim some badges

[patent carbon]

Hey. Can you dm me to tell me to get some badges too?

Back in like 2018-19 ofc

[modest geyser]

Can you dm me just 67

[verbal wraith]

Without a context, you would probably think I'm crazy or something

[modest geyser]

Then say to send a message in this server at this date at this time to dm me 67

ouroboros

[floral rapids]

would it be possible for you to also dm me to learn typescript and rust sooner

[patent carbon]

Rust 🤮

[quiet saddle]

ew

[verbal wraith]

Man, I think I'm gonna take paid requests at this rate

Time machine would make me rich

[modest geyser]

This would be a casual loop paradox

[floral rapids]

dam, my request made requests go paid

[verbal wraith]

You are lucky, your was the last free one lol

[floral rapids]

sorry guys, I will make sure to include go as well next time if I had a chance

[floral rapids]

🥳

also about rust, I should really check out if there's a cargo that's only dedicated for ratchet tree / e2ee

[modest geyser]

openmls

[quiet saddle]

yep

[modest geyser]

https://github.com/openmls/openmls

[floral rapids]

oh it even has to wasm 👀 thank you

[modest geyser]

If you run in wasm just use mlspp

Its a more mature implementation

[quiet saddle]

what are you using e2ee for

[floral rapids]

I've been favoring everything to be in wasm

[floral rapids]

Gain knowledge

[cunning coyote]

Me when the Open<Thing> isn't open

-# this is a joke about opengl and openai

[modest geyser]

And you get to write a better language

[quiet saddle]

They don't support any 256-bit ciphersuites?

[modest geyser]

Nope!

[quiet saddle]

How...

[modest geyser]

Idk

[quiet saddle]

P-521 is trivially easy

[modest geyser]

Honestly https://github.com/cisco/mlspp is like the only mature impl

[modest geyser]

And they even use libraries for crypto soo

[quiet saddle]

smh

[neat olive]

crypto? is that like a bro?

[quiet saddle]

btw Luna I looked a little deeper into ts-mls out of curiosity

it's... pretty bad

[modest geyser]

Lol

[quiet saddle]

I noticed they said it focuses on immutability

and that they support ML-KEM

[upbeat anchor]

Time to make new github called openopen

[cunning coyote]

Lol I use tangled these days

[patent carbon]

Good movie

[cunning coyote]

[quiet saddle]

@modest geyser almost all of the lib is 67 files right in the root level of "src"

[modest geyser]

Lol

[patent carbon]

Good snack

[quiet saddle]

here's their focus on immutability

here's their support for Post Quantum algos (ML-KEM, X-Wing)

[sacred oak]

most of the code is the same...

seems like all they change is whats in the const {}, the return new, and the DependencyError text

I feel like theres a way to do this better

[quiet saddle]

there is

[olive depot]

Do message context commands gives message content when ran?

[modest geyser]

Yes

[olive depot]

thanks

[dusky patio]

Tangled enjoyers when they disover untangled

[cunning coyote]

untangled Enjoyers when they discover retangled

[dusky patio]

Dear God..

[cunning coyote]

Me when I wake up tbh

Hair always tangled

[dusky patio]

That's so real

My hair goes a bit down my back and every day I just sigh and grab the hairbrush after I wake up knowing it looks like crap

[lapis anchor]

Hello, I was planning to ask this question via private message because this is a new concept we are developing for the Turkish Discord community and we want to keep it confidential for now, but since staff private messages are closed, I decided to ask here instead. Could you help me?

[dusky patio]

Bro said everything but his question

[cunning coyote]

My hair is naturally wavy so it constantly gets tangled and knotted

[dusky patio]

Gambling bots exist in so many places, if it's not real money 99.5% chance Discord won't care

[trim geode]

This is probably a question better suited for a lawyer because none of us here are lawyers or discord legal

And while people here can give their interpretation of the policies in place they cannot give you any matter of fact statements

[dusky patio]

The extra .5 is because Discord makes every policy vague, for good reason, and can technically take action if they ever feel like it

[trim geode]

Well then you also have to account for the fact that depending on your region may impact if it's allowed or not even if it's no real money value.

[lapis anchor]

There will be absolutely no real money involved. I just couldn't quite figure out if setting up such a system would be legal after reading the Discord rules, so I wanted to ask here.

[trim geode]

For example Belgium and I believe Netherlands have much stricter laws even if it's not real money

So even if there's many other apps and bots that have the functionality you have to seek legal advice from an actual lawyer

[dusky patio]

Oh wait true, this guy said Turkish community and gambling is highly regulated in Turkey

[pale hull]

Are many video games just not sold in those regions? I feel like lots of video games have some amount of in game gambling.

[trim geode]

Yeah there's been a few games that come out recently if I remember correctly where people are wondering why it's not in Belgium for example. I believe there was actually a cozy game that is being developed by subsidiary of tencent where it's not allowed to be sold in Belgium and that's a good sign that it's going to have lootbox mechanics

[dusky patio]

Developers usually have to change how the games work, for example in Belgium Apex packs (Apex Legends version of loot boxes basically) can only give crafting material to redeem items instead of the randomized item lottery that usually exists

[pale hull]

But lootboxes are real money

[trim geode]

And this is a reason you shouldn't be giving advice on those legal matters, especially gambling ones. Because that 99.5% chance you just stated probably just dropped down to 95 if not less. Simply because you forgot about a region.

[lapis anchor]

Our goal is not to promote gambling. Our goal is to create a new entertainment-focused bot for our own community by making use of Discord’s newer features and systems.

[trim geode]

Intent and motivation don't matter. Seek the advice from a lawyer. They're the only ones who can tell you if it's okay or not

[dusky patio]

True

[trim geode]

If Discord deems it a violation of their terms of service they will get rid of it. Does not matter if your intents were good.

And of all potential risks gambling is definitely not one where even I would even give my interpretation of the policy because it's so dependent on so many factors.

[dusky patio]

BotGhost(?) is punching the air rn fr

[lapis anchor]

The main thing we are concerned about is whether this system could potentially violate Discord’s policies in any way. Since no real money or real-world value is involved, it should not be considered an issue under our country’s laws. However, we are still concerned about the possibility of receiving a violation or restriction from Discord’s side, and that is the part we want clarification on.

[dusky patio]

Like Matt said, nobody here can tell you 100%

[trim geode]

And if you reach out to support they will likely defer you to legal who will likely defer you to their policies which will lead you to getting your own lawyer.

[lapis anchor]

Additionally, Discord is currently subject to access restrictions in Turkey, 😂

[dusky patio]

We could give you our interpretation of whether it would be ok at best, but the only person who can 100% help you is a lawyer

[trim geode]

And we here will tell you to go to support

So instead of going the whole roundabout and wasting time, it's better just go ahead and get in a lawyer to look at it and give you some advice.

So all these messages you're sending here, collect them and send them to a lawyer and ask them.

[pale hull]

The thing is most people are not able to afford a lawyer.

[lapis anchor]

Discord is currently subject to access restrictions in Turkey, Therefore, we don't think this is a matter for lawyers.

[balmy basin]

I love my shards

[dusky patio]

Arguably I think that makes it even more of a matter for lawyers

[trim geode]

Turkey isn't the only country in the world that has gambling restrictions

[dusky patio]

No no, Discord itself is restricted in Turkey. There was a huge scandal a while back that lead to the government cracking down on it

[lapis anchor]

We're not running a gambling operation; we're considering an entertainment bot like OWO, and that's why I'd like to get information from the Discord staff.

[trim geode]

I get that. But if you're building an app where you're asking questions on if it genuinely will violate terms of service or not or have a risk of violation terms of service, you might just want to cough up the few hundred bucks to get an hour of an attorney's time and ask those questions.

[trim geode]

And I'm telling you that the discord staff which you would have to reach out to support will refer you to legal and the legal team will you refer you to their policies which you will need to get a lawyer to properly interpret

[dusky patio]

You probably don't even need like a really expensive lawyer for it tbh, could probably find one for like $100 that would suffice fr

[trim geode]

Or a law student

[lapis anchor]

Our main concern is whether there is any possibility that our community server could be removed, restricted, or that the bot itself could face limitations or enforcement actions from Discord because of this system.

Since Discord is currently under access restrictions in Turkey, it is difficult for us to get accurate legal guidance locally, and many lawyers here are not familiar with Discord’s platform policies or developer systems. Because of that, we felt it would be best to directly ask the appropriate Discord team for clarification.

[trim geode]

Again. You will have to reach out to support. No one here can help you. And they will refer you to legal, who will refer you to their policies.

[dusky patio]

The official Discord teams are likely not gonna help out besides telling you what Matt already is

[trim geode]

And if you are located in Turkey, which you're making it sound like you are, then you're not even allowed to be on the platform much less develop on it

[pale hull]

Discord has put no restrictions on users access.

[trim geode]

I'm talking about from the country side of things

[lapis anchor]

We own the largest Discord community in Turkey so this is impossible.

[dull sky]

Dude, wake up. You guys are making so much thinking. The World still going even if everything goes down

[trim geode]

Not from Discord itself. But I believe it's part of the developer policies you have to follow all local laws and regulations which I guess you could be in violation of because if the local laws regulations deem discord as an illegal service and you are breaking those laws and regulations than in theory you'd be in violation of discord developer policy

[dusky patio]

The country itself restricted Discord, not the other way around, cited CSAM concerns amongst other things

[trim geode]

You may not use the APIs and may not accept the Terms if you are barred from using or receiving the APIs under the applicable laws of the United States or other countries, including the country in which you are a resident or from which you use the APIs.

[quiet saddle]

we can only hope the rest of the world follows suit so we can finally be freed from this platform /hj

[tepid hedge]

?

[trim geode]

So yes technically by using the API in Turkey a country which has banned discord you are in violation of the Discord developer policy

[dusky patio]

Ban Discord so we can all go outside

[trim geode]

So technically doesn't even matter if you're developing an app or not because no matter what you do you're technically in violation of the developer policy

Because you are resident of Turkey and Turkey has deemed it illegal or whatever they have to use Discord

Not a lawyer so take what I say with a mass of grain of salt because that's just my interpretation of the policies

[lapis anchor]

Even though Discord is banned in Turkey, it hasn't stopped supporting Turkey. The servers are still accessible, and we still have Turkish support staff.

[trim geode]

Discord as a service is different than the Discord developer policy

They have different terms and different guidelines. What I quoted is directly from the Discord developer terms of service

[lapis anchor]

And regarding the access restriction, developments are currently underway on both sides to lift it.

[patent carbon]

Discord didn't ban Turkey... Turkey banned Discord

[dusky patio]

Don't you need a VPN to access Discord in Turkey?

[trim geode]

And as a discord developer terms of service state if you are in a country that has barred the use of the API in this case Discords API then you are not allowed to accept the terms of service and you may not use the API

[lapis anchor]

No I'm using DNS Setting

[dull sky]

How to overcome an ip ban from discord. Is it even possible?

[dusky patio]

Get them to unban you?

[trim geode]

So by even accepting the terms of service as a resident of Turkey you are in violation of the terms of service

[patent carbon]

we are not going to tell people how to bypass bans

[dusky patio]

Chat we can't help you ban evade

[trim geode]

Which means at any point they could shut down any of your apps

[dull sky]

No, I'm not banned. But I'm thinking the way ppl still using dc while ip banned

[quiet saddle]

Worth mentioning that what's stated in the terms, what's actually enforced, and what's actually wrong are three different things

[dusky patio]

Double Counter?

[dull sky]

Yes that's what I'm asking

Is it even possible to counter the ip ban your pv has from dc?

[neat olive]

I'd probably be more concerned about being actioned by the country than discord

[dusky patio]

Oh well that's because DoubleCounter sucks at alt detection, you can bypass DC with just incognito tabs

[quiet saddle]

Yeah absolutely

[dull sky]

Bcs all the devices got its own number written on it when done manufactured. The ip bann also trigger the number from the Device

[trim geode]

Agreed. I'm just stating that according to the explicit wording in the terms of service it is technically a violation. Now will they enforce it is a completely different issue. Which all leads back to the biggest issue which is they need to get a lawyer. Especially when they're already coming in with concerns about the risk of their application and gambling regulations and the policies on Discord around gambling even if it's for not real money. So if you tack on that risk on top of the fact that they're already technically violating by accepting terms of service in a country that has bar the use of discord, it's just not worth the risk in my opinion

But all this aside, you should be discussing this with a lawyer and not random people in a discord server.

Which is what we told you 20 minutes ago.

[quiet saddle]

Discord doesn't have access to your device's MAC address (which is what you're likely referring to - which is per network interface, not technically per device) - and they can't block it.

[dusky patio]

Yeaaaah, best course of action for him is lowk to send the code to someone else in a different country without a ban to host and have them contact a lawyer fr fr

Oh yeah I wanted to show off what I was making, that's why I came here, totally forgot that because of this whole Turkish gambling discussion lmao

[quiet saddle]

At most they can try to block you based on your inferred identity (a combination of IP and device information that they do get, such as your screen resolution, OS, browser, few other things)

[dull sky]

I thought Website etc. Had all the information abt the Devices. I thought like. They know all abt everything but they do Not play with ppl

[quiet saddle]

But I don't even think they do that

[quiet saddle]

A website can add a cookie to your browser to uniquely identify you, but you can just delete that - and then you're anonymous again from their perspective.

[sudden yoke]

[tropic sandal]

Well. Not really.

[dusky patio]

Making a cool little partnership forger system for my bot, is for a very specific niche community which is where certain terms such as Long-Terms or Formats come in so just don't mind those much, I think the UIs for it look pretty clean and everything functions pretty good so far (although I do still need to make the commands for managing ongoing partnerships/partnership requests)

[tropic sandal]

Browser fingerprinting is just getting better and better

[quiet saddle]

See my comments above regarding other tracking methods.

[trim geode]

Didn't Chrome recently come out with like a way to have a unique fingerprint or something

Or am I just completely talking out of my ass

[dull sky]

I was thinking of apps that are as well-designed as Facebook, WhatsApp, Discord, Instagram, TikTok.To be honest, I was afraid that people already know a lot about me when I don't really know them at all. But I'm simply inexperienced, and that's why I'm afraid to start something like my own business, because they're way ahead of the curve and older people have more knowledge.

[quiet saddle]

Lmao. Wouldn't surprise me, Chrome is basically spyware.

[trim geode]

I feel like I distinctly remember them releasing something that was designed for advertisers to get a unique user ID without having any risk of it being like removed like a cookie or something

Basically just spyware

[dusky patio]

Just another reason why Brave is superior

[dull sky]

Do you know where you can see how many cookies you have already accepted?

[trim geode]

Brave is built off of chromium

[dusky patio]

Yeah but it doesn't have ads

[trim geode]

It has the same underlying technology that Chrome has. If they choose to use it or not is on them. That doesn't mean it won't be used

[tropic sandal]

They did the whole cookiepocalypse thing to phase out third party cookies, which has been in flex for years now, and replaced it with some Advertiser ID thing iirc. I dunno, I don't touch digital marketing.

[quiet saddle]

F12 to open developer tools, then go to one of the tabs within it (typically called "storage") - you can see everything websites have stored on your computer including cookies

[tropic sandal]

There's a valid debate as to which is worse, third party cookies are also insidious on a massive scale.

[trim geode]

I feel like that's in the vein I was remembering. But yeah I don't I don't know. It's all crappy

[dusky patio]

I care less about whether it's used and more about if I have to see the effects of it being used, I've already conceded that big tech basically knows more about me than I know about myself atp

[trim geode]

Doesn't brave has its own advertising system underline everything so even though they used ad block as part of their system they still basically show ads or at least sell off your data?

[quiet saddle]

You might be thinking of: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Attribution_Reporting_API

[dull sky]

I understand. I really need to learn how computers and technologies are built. It feels like a library to me, and I get burned out when I see so much information that I don't understand at all, written only in code like little words. Then you open up the details and larger sources, which would take a lot of time to read them all.

[dusky patio]

Eh it's an opt-in program for like crypto rewards, so if you don't want to see those ads you can just ignore it. But yeah if you enable the system it'll show you some in return for some crypto currency I forget the name of

[unique depot]

Rip dev badge

[quiet saddle]

Basically an insidious attempt by Google et all to ad invasive tracking to the standard Web API.

It was soundly rejected.

[trim geode]

It was I think FLoC and topics? Based on my quick searching

https://privacysandbox.google.com/archive/floc

Which led to this https://privacysandbox.google.com/private-advertising/topics

[pale hull]

I just realized that I accidentally had adblock on :/
Apparently it was a sublist in ublock origins default list

[dusky patio]

With Brave they claim that ad targeting happens on your device, and that your browsing profile never leaves your browser, but whether that's true or not idk could just be legalese for all we're aware

[dull sky]

I use cloudflare called 1.1.1.1

[trim geode]

CF is solid. So is Google Public DNS. I think Quad9 or whatever its called is also really good

[tropic sandal]

That's just a dns resolver..

[dusky patio]

I love uBlock Origins sm

[dull sky]

It has two There are two options: one that keeps your identity and access to other browsers secret, and the other option would probably allow you to reach other websites that are blocked and not easily accessible.

[tropic sandal]

I primary 1.1.1.1 and secondary 8.8.8.8

[trim geode]

A good DNS resolver can hide and protect you a lot though

It's not a silver bullet, but it can help

[tropic sandal]

Eh, ish. Really only if you use DoH

[dusky patio]

DNS is fire, I used a custom DNS creator site for a while to block trackers on my phone

[pale hull]

I hope it works well. I cant really tell if it blocking most things or just some things.

[dull sky]

You mean it isn't that good at all? But I thought its the best

[dusky patio]

From my experience uBlock Origins works very well, but ad blockers and the likes are an ongoing arms race so it doesn't always block 100% of ads; it'll block almost all of them on a good majority of commonly used sites though

[cunning coyote]

Me when DoH or DoT + DNSSEC

[pale hull]

I only have cookie, tracker, and malware blocking on. I dont block ads. That is why it is hard for me to tell

[lapis anchor]

@cunning coyote

[tropic sandal]

Isn't DoT kinda dead? I thought everything was moving to DoH now

[quiet saddle]

I'm not a fan of Brave... don't like their monetization scheme, don't like their CEO

[dusky patio]

Ohhhh, idk about cookie or malware blocking but tracker blocking on uBlock ik works phenomenally honestly

[cunning coyote]

I'm not on duty until next week, sorry

[patent carbon]

lucky

[lapis anchor]

I'm wondering if my server will be deleted or not.

[patent carbon]

the moderators here dont have authority outside of this server

[quiet saddle]

that's not a question this server's staff can answer anyways

[dusky patio]

I don't like most CEOs, the Sam Altman vs. Elon Musk case is a case in which I wish both sides unilaterally lose

I'm ride or die for Ben and Jerry's though..

[lapis anchor]

My goal is simply to get information from someone knowledgeable.

Who can ı ask

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[tropic sandal]

A lawyer

[patent carbon]

or... as you were already told... a laywer

[tropic sandal]

Like you've been told

[dusky patio]

The persistence is admirable

[quiet saddle]

what do you use for it

[lapis anchor]

My question isn't about legal practice; lawyers in Turkish are unaware of Discord. I'm simply wondering if there's a possibility my server could be deleted.

[kind kindle]

[modern kestrel]

pump

[modern kestrel]

Clump

[dusky patio]

There is always a possibility of that, regardless

Discord can ban whatever they want lmao

[lapis anchor]

Yoruldum anlatırken ya

[trim geode]

I'm insulted. I have spent countless hours digging into the terms of service, policies and even third party terms of service to help people and had to learn them front and back.

[trim geode]

They should just give you guys an option to selectively remove the mod roles when you're off duty.

So it doesn't even show up with the badge at all

[dusky patio]

Track who is on duty the most for mod of the month awards

[cunning coyote]

We can remove the ping one but not the normal one

[trim geode]

They have set hours, so if they're not on duty then that's a bigger problem

[trim geode]

They should allow you guys to remove the normal one to selectively

[dull sky]

Has anyone here ever dealt with something like this?

[dusky patio]

Working basically a 2nd job in your free time is wild

[lapis anchor]

I want to minimize this possibility, so we will introduce the systems we have developed to the community accordingly.

[near crescent]

don't talk about things you don't understand or know, please

you have no idea how our agreement works, so don't act like you do, thanks

[lapis anchor]

I asked a question above, can you help me?

[dusky patio]

Dude, nobody here is gonna be able to answer your questions besides like a lawyer 😭 that's why like 5 different people have told you to get one if you really need the answer to this stuff

[trim geode]

So you don't have hours that you work as on duty like has been shared by multiple mods over time?

[patent carbon]

youve been answered several times

[near crescent]

i'm not discussing this, i'm asking you all to take a few steps back and not act like you know

[lapis anchor]

I would like to receive information from the moderators.

[pale hull]

Simplest answer would be to reinstall your operating system.

[quiet saddle]

ugh enough ddevs for me

[dusky patio]

I couldn't tell if he was talking to you or me low-key

[modest geyser]

Hey sooj did you see my question about scams i pinged you on

[wet condor]

Is this a place to ask if a game concept is against Discord ToS?

[patent carbon]

the moderators here are not discord staff... they have no more authority over discord as a platform than you or me

[dull sky]

What about the Mails, like gmail. Bcs thats my In my opinion, the most important information I have

[trim geode]

Im only referencing information that has been shared in this chat before within the last couple months plus my knowledge of other Discord official communities and how they run lol.

[near crescent]

no; To contact Discord staff about app/game/developer issues, please use https://dis.gd/developer-support

[dull sky]

Like should I just save in a Chip or smth

[trim geode]

Like we said to you the past hour. Talk to a lawyer

[lapis anchor]

I tried to access it from here but the "solved" button was skipped.

[near crescent]

how our agreements work is for us to know and you to not care about

it does matter no single bit to you

and for that fact it's way too often the topic here

[patent carbon]

tbf its a common topic in many big servers... especially ones for a company

[lapis anchor]

Let me explain: we manage the largest and most active community server in Turkey, and therefore we read the guidelines, but since it's a very open-to-interpretation topic, our aim was to seek support. Thank you anyway.

[dusky patio]

This feels like a very serious reaction towards the topic of Discord server moderation.. is there something I'm missing here? 😭

[dull sky]

Souji I have a question and I'm curious. It seems to me that he talked about something that people are reluctant to discuss. Why?

[trim geode]

No one is asking about the agreements??? Lol. All that was said is that mods have hours and can be on duty of off duty. Lolol.

[patent carbon]

our aim was to seek support
so try contacting support at https://dis.gd/contact

[trim geode]

Again talk to support or talk to a lawyer

[quiet saddle]

and you don't know that for a fact

[pale hull]

Im not sure what you mean by this.
But if you enable 2FA and dont have viruses your accounts should be as secure as you can make them. The downfall is that the company could still be hacked.

[dusky patio]

At what point does Matt give up on answer this guy

[quiet saddle]

can you all just drop the subject please my god

[modest geyser]

On a lighter topic everytime i roll to my other side my tail knocks everything off my nightstand its so annoying

[dusky patio]

Your.. tail?

[quiet saddle]

floofi tail problems

[near crescent]

as said, we cannot help you with questions regarding policy; try to contact dev support - specifically https://dis.gd/developer-support, not https://dis.gd/contact and see if they may be able to help you; nobody here can

[patent carbon]

get a shorter or taller nightstand so it's harder for that to happen

[lapis anchor]

Thanks

[modest geyser]

Sooj have you seen the 3 image crypto scams

[modest geyser]

True

[dusky patio]

So Matt tells you this for like an hour, but Souji says the same thing like twice and it suddenly makes sense?! Justice for Matt lowk

Matt robbed 💔

[lapis anchor]

I've stated 2390420398423 times that this isn't a legal matter, but no one seems to understand.

[polar bobcat]

😔

[trim geode]

Except it quite literally is...

[lapis anchor]

Our country's lawyers are people who don't know about social media.

[patent carbon]

Terms of Service are legal documents

you just dont understand that

[trim geode]

Because it's in reference to Terms of Service, which is a legally binding contract.

[lapis anchor]

Turkey is unique country.

[patent carbon]

and you have to follow US law because Discord is a US company

[dusky patio]

This is by definition a legal matter

[patent carbon]

and your own country's laws

[dusky patio]

Neither banning Discord nor regulating gambling is really that unique

[dull sky]

Speak up.

[lapis anchor]

Nobody knows anything about social media; I was being ironic about that. 😂

[dusky patio]

This is a text conversation, there's no audio level here smh

[dull sky]

You are very petty.

[near crescent]

you may want to explain what you mean by "speak up". it doesn't make much sense in context of a text chat

[patent carbon]

i think the right word is sarcastic... or punny

[pale hull]

I dont recall any security breaches of discords core platform.

[dull sky]

Relax it was just a figure of speech.

[dull sky]

Well samtino I don't know what you saw but he wasn't sarcastic in any way.

[patent carbon]

he was tho... you said "speak up" and he made a joke about speaking since this is a text chat

im assuming that joke was lost in translation however

[dull sky]

I think he was strict abt that, but if you think it's what he meant. Could be my I have misidentified something as a signal tone.

Since you've probably been active here longer than I have, you might be right.

[dull sky]

Man

[dusky patio]

Yeah I've heard that before lmao

[dull sky]

Why it typin like this

My phone is done for Real this time

[dull sky]

I only realized the joke later because I took it seriously. I hope we can still sit down together amicably.

[dusky patio]

Can we stand amicably instead

[dull sky]

Unfortunately, I find it difficult to distinguish between identical sentences expressed in different tones. -still improving englisj

[dull sky]

Sure

[dusky patio]

Hooray

[dusky patio]

It's all good homie, I'm terribly autistic so tone trips me up a bunch too, it happens

[bright arch]

@vapid mortar

[summer kestrel]

who can help me with PY?

[lyric escarp]

if you can go ahead and ask your question.

someone might answer it

[summer kestrel]

Who's that can help me send me DM pls

[lyric escarp]

no DM, right here.

#rules

[tawdry sedge]

It says no unsolicited invites, referral links and stuff

[runic field]

Mods have made it clear they don't like people dragging others into DMs randomly

[compact helm]

Does anyone know who owns this?

[runic field]

This what? Server? Discord.

[compact helm]

Yes

[tawdry sedge]

Makes sense

[patent carbon]

Discord owns it

[runic field]

Discord.

[compact helm]

Is this the general Discord server?

[patent carbon]

no

[runic field]

No, it is not.

[patent carbon]

discord.gg/discord-townhall is though

[versed vapor]

Hey there i am new here

Does everyone is developer here?

[patent carbon]

ideally... everyone here is a developer... why?

[trim geode]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-an-engineer-riri-williams-ironheart-my-profession-is-engineering-marvel-studios-gif-1054359785159282779

[patent carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-engineer-gaming-gif-19532009

[versed vapor]

I am just asking because i am a beginners and i want to learn many things from my senior

[versed vapor]

Oh nice software or website?

Ahh... I think its look weird but i just join this channel because i am junior and i dont have mentor that's why i join this to get experience from seniors

[patent carbon]

that's completely normal... we can help answer questions you have or point you to good resources depending on what you are learning / doing

[versed vapor]

@patent carbon Actually sir currently i am at very small level i am full stack website developer i know Lamp stack and learning mern stack
I am 19 year old and i want to learn many things but i don't know what is essential for me and which skill is demanded in market in future because everyone is saying why you choose development line you need to choose ai/ml or llm something but i am a 1st year student i want to learn about development that's why i choose that

[wispy swift]

what it this

node:internal/process/promises:394
    triggerUncaughtException(err, true /* fromPromise */);
    ^

Error: getaddrinfo EAI_AGAIN discord.com
    at GetAddrInfoReqWrap.onlookupall [as oncomplete] (node:dns:122:26) {
  errno: -3001,
  code: 'EAI_AGAIN',
  syscall: 'getaddrinfo',
  hostname: 'discord.com'
}

Node.js v24.15.0```

[sonic pine]

joe mama

[patent carbon]

It's an issue with your hosting provider. They're unable to resolve the discord.com hostname

[trim geode]

Yeah reach out to whoever your host is

I don't think I've ever encountered a DNS lookup error before ngl

DNS lookup timeout error*

[patent carbon]

EAI_AGAIN is a new one for me. I've not seen someone report that one before

[blissful sequoia]

might wanna nslookup lmao

[trim geode]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who has never ran into that at least that I'm aware. I also had to look at it myself because I was curious

Look it up myself

[patent carbon]

<@&1050493473033289778> bot

❤️

[quiet saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EabT_XE_cTo?feature=share

[keen glen]

Can someone give the link for the discord server for unbanning accounts

[blissful sequoia]

there is no discord server for that.. contact !support.

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[keen glen]

but if my account was terminated for a crazy reason how do i appeal?

[blissful sequoia]

you contact support using the link above

[keen glen]

Ty.

[blissful sequoia]

discord has no form of live chat support

[keen glen]

dang thats crazy

[pale hull]

Pretty common for any large platform

[patent carbon]

<@&1050493473033289778> anothera one

[rugged heath]

!support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[slow silo]

[wide pasture]

@lyric escarp Hey mate, you online?

[lyric halo]

ummm is there any issue with sharing contact no with client?

[patent carbon]

i dont really know what that means... can you clarify?

[verbal gyro]

Hello and good morning.

[bleak pond]

on your own risk

[rich horizon]

!support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[rich horizon]

Good morning how are u?

[placid token]

Good wbu

[wide pasture]

Anyone here who can help me fix an issue with ubuntu installation?

[lethal pier]

anyone know if there will be a buildathon this year?

[balmy basin]

What issue?

[quiet saddle]

should be later in the year

[lethal pier]

ok cool

[wide pasture]

For me?

[balmy basin]

Yes

[quiet saddle]

thinking of entering?

[balmy basin]

What issue are you experiencing installing Ubuntu

[lethal pier]

abselutley

[quiet saddle]

i think i will too

[balmy basin]

I'm not gonna participate tbh

[lethal pier]

how long do we get to build the bot?

[wide pasture]

OS is installed BUT my laptop doesn't detects the hard drive. Gives hard disk 3FO error.

[quiet saddle]

about 2 months

[lethal pier]

nice

[wide pasture]

I've confirmed that the hard disk is working fine, ubuntu is installed on it. But when i reboot, it gives an error.

i installed ubuntu and it installed perfectly.
Now the issue is when i reboot the laptop, it gives me an error "Hard disk 3Fo, Please install an OS on your system". I've confirmed that the ubuntu is installed in the drive but the laptop doesn't detects it on reboot. How to fix this issue?

I am using HP elitebook 8460p.

[quiet saddle]

have you tried asking in a linux or ubuntu server?

you've asked several times here, probably no one can help with this specific issue

[lethal pier]

reset the BIOS to defaults?

[valid ravine]

If I create a bot for my server, will I receive a badge?

[zealous gate]

no

[wide pasture]

Did 2 times.

[valid ravine]

If I create a bot for my server, will I receive a badge?

[modest geyser]

No

[quiet saddle]

asking twice won't get a different answer

[verbal wraith]

No

[wide pasture]

I tried but no one replied me till now, Researched on the whole internet but still couldn't fixed.

[valid ravine]

Okey

[lethal pier]

maybe you have a corrupted usb

I would create a new ubuntu usb and try again

[wide pasture]

The OS is installed fine, I am using live session to chat here rn but as soon as i reboot without usb, it gives the error

[modest geyser]

The problem is your computer doesnt find the bootloader

Just go ask in a linux server with support channels

[wide pasture]

Exactly

[lethal pier]

yeah bootloader mismatch I would assume

[wide pasture]

I did. Let's wait.

[wide pasture]

It doesn't shows the drive when i go into boot loader options

[modest geyser]

So then wait

We aren’t a tech support server

[wide pasture]

Still use linux though.

Might have experience,

[sullen cove]

Can someone help me?

[verbal wraith]

With?

[modest geyser]

Ask your question

[sullen cove]

Okay basically when I try to verify my app the verify me button doesn't work I will show you vid w8

[modest geyser]

Try in a different browser if that doesnt help !support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[sullen cove]

I tried contacting support but tbh the support is just trash af

[zealous gate]

did you disable popups on chrome

[sullen cove]

No

[lyric halo]

👀 what are the risks

[twilit prism]

when was bug hunter is unobtainable

[olive depot]

its been 3 months i reported a valid bug and they didn't replied back lmao

[last night]

Hell­o

[olive depot]

How did you even said hello

[lyric halo]

fr how

[last night]

I just copied an empty text lol

[quiet saddle]

0xAD

[lyric halo]

mine is blocked ahm

[last night]

Copy this text

­

[peak halo]

crazy, but what's even more crazy is that it's irrelevant for this server

[lyric halo]

damn bro found bypass to discord automod, now i have to upadte this in my bot

[olive depot]

Souji gonna sue you for bypassing automod

[lyric halo]

instead of using spaces he is using invisible character and as there are no spaces discord recognise it as one word and

[quiet saddle]

not quite true, the Discord client still recognizes and sends the full word including the hidden hyphen character

[heavy arrow]

discord client automatically realigns to left if you start a sentence with any spaces,so it does ignore spaces.

[quiet saddle]

­

[heavy arrow]

however there's something called invisible characters which is not actually treated as spaces.

[quiet saddle]

because they aren't spaces

[heavy arrow]

y e s
and thats the only "bypass" someone could do

[lyric escarp]

you can ask someone elese too you know

i wake up at like 3pm

[lethal pier]

@quiet saddle you got any ideas for what you might build for the buildathon?

[modest geyser]

theres no buildathon?

[lethal pier]

we were discussing the future build a thon

[quiet saddle]

hmm i'm not sure yet, i've had some thoughts around emoji management though

[lethal pier]

nice

[quiet saddle]

it's not well-known because it can only be done via API but you can actually restrict specific emoji to specific roles

[modest geyser]

madeline im gonna make cool graphs for MeowAtScam

[quiet saddle]

ooooh

[olive depot]

why would anyone do that

[quiet saddle]

lots of cool uses

[olive depot]

Like?

[quiet saddle]

let's say you have a big server. with all boost tiers unlocked, you get 250 emoji. that's a lot of emoji.

[neat olive]

[quiet saddle]

on a server I used to run people didn't like that there were so many emoji to scroll through

[neat olive]

is that in the docs?

[olive depot]

I meant, what does not letting anyone use server emoji yields

[quiet saddle]

not sure

[quiet saddle]

that's where my bot would come in. letting users customize which emoji sets they want to have, with the click of a few buttons.

[olive depot]

Is it even possible

[quiet saddle]

yes

[neat olive]

also how does that work with external use? can you require a specific role in server x to send emoji y belonging to x in server z?

[quiet saddle]

doesn't work for external use afaik - that's an all or nothing thing

but you could even have certain emoji sets be limited to exclusive roles

like "VIP Booster = special emoji"

[oak swift]

Hi guys, is there a way we can make avatar decorations etc and submit it for the team to review and publish if they like?

[quiet saddle]

servers would eat that up.

[neat olive]

probably not

[oak swift]

ohh.. is it just the devs making them?

Thanks for the info :)

[zealous gate]

yes

[lyric escarp]

me when dev for 8 hours straight

[raven scroll]

X K N T

[eternal hinge]

anyone knows ?

lmao

[eternal hinge]

what ?

[jaunty cliff]

[lyric escarp]

!support

[strong seal]

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[versed creek]

Wait I dont know the context but is this line possible

Would you just ban those emoji being used for normal people from automod and boosters bypass it

🤔

[quiet saddle]

it wouldn't even appear on the menu for people without the role

[last night]

H­i

[versed creek]

How

[versed creek]

Wait what did you say!!!dont say thattttt

How did he sayyyyy hiiiii 😨😨😨😨😨😨

[quiet saddle]

non-printing character

[versed creek]

Ok

Wait explain me the emoji thing you were telling

[last night]

Just copy this character lol

­

[quiet saddle]

#dev-chat message

[versed creek]

No I prefer "             　"

[zealous gate]

it's funny but pretty cool that even admins and the server owner can't see the emojis without the roles

[quiet saddle]

Yeah lol

[versed creek]

Arent we in the same channel

[zealous gate]

it's a message link

[quiet saddle]

Yes, did you read the message...

[summer kestrel]

I need help DM me pls

[versed creek]

How tho💔

[zealous gate]

ask your question directly

[last night]

Of what?

[quiet saddle]

idk if it's documented or not

[versed creek]

Caroline spill the beans

[zealous gate]

it is documented

the roles field on emoji objects

[versed creek]

Link pls

[flint epoch]

Emoji Resource - Emoji Object

[versed creek]

Bery bery useful

[summer kestrel]

PY

[near crescent]

@summer kestrel if you have a specific question ask it here or in #1478857869960019968; don't try to pull people into DMs please.
nobody can help you if you don't explain the issue you need help with

[visual rover]

Any paid hosting suggestions ?

[versed creek]

I remember I was in a server where i could change nick but some bot used to automod to stop me from having some words in my profile how does it work

By profile i mean nick

[near crescent]

what does "stop" mean? it just changed back?

[versed creek]

Just as a normal automod built in it used to stop me kinda at the per server profile page from having that in name

[lyric escarp]

also did the same yesterday #dev-chat message

[near crescent]

well, then it's exactly that, automod
so i'm not sure what you are asking?

[summer kestrel]

?

[versed creek]

I mean you can do this as a person can discord bot change things in automod for me

[near crescent]

https://docs.discord.com/developers/resources/auto-moderation#modify-auto-moderation-rule

[versed creek]

Ooooooooo

Thnxz

[modest geyser]

im doing stuff

[peak halo]

grafana my beloved

[summer kestrel]

can you help me ?https://canary.discord.com/channels/613425648685547541/1502248834565410846

[modest geyser]

true

now im gonna code the integration for MAS

[granite meadow]

Pls help me Discord support

[strong seal]

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[arctic gulch]

m

[glass silo]

<@&1050493473033289778>

[arctic gulch]

So, Hello everyone and I am new to this server and I wanted to know that how can I be a discord dev and how can I code for the discord bots and apps?

[glass silo]

Like work at Discord?

[arctic gulch]

Ya

[glass silo]

See https://discord.com/jobs

[arctic gulch]

Thx

[twilit prism]

when was u obtained bug hunter badge ?

[near crescent]

https://gist.github.com/almostSouji/2e9707739d1480062b7a314fc8c90cba

[arctic gulch]

The way you talk tells that english was not your first language (not meant to offend you fr)

[twilit prism]

fosho

[arctic gulch]

wdym bruh?

[twilit prism]

for sure

[arctic gulch]

Oh ok

[light flare]

Opa.

[bleak pond]

Who ping me just now

[limber lotus]

Mmm

[floral rapids]

I was also planning on using graphana but I'm severely lacking in storage for it

also maukkis, per chance, do you store the images that you consider as "scam", so in a way, to know if it was a fp or not

[balmy basin]

as i understood, maukkis stores hashes of images

[floral rapids]

I also do that, but it's not helping out when someone complains that they got falsely punished and I can't reach back to them to fix the issue

i'm thinking of a 7days store then delete for moderation purposes but skeptical at how the laws & discord will view it

[still spoke]

https://giphy.com/gifs/miku-i-dont-wanna-be-employed-NH9smHiQiHX9lIhttj

[atomic ice]

Who know where can buy the most cheap discord bot hosting (NodeJs)

[polar viper]

https://discord.com/channels/613425648685547541/1478860733365354687

[proven kettle]

does anyone know how to make a decent discord server?

[polar viper]

not the place

[proven kettle]

where do i find server builders?

[polar viper]

fiverr

[olive depot]

what's even complex in making a server

[polar viper]

no idea

[proven kettle]

i mean im just dumb, so i cant learn how to make a server

[jagged spruce]

try asking in Town Hall instead (link in #rules )

[polar viper]

you literally just create channels and configure permissions

[olive depot]

i mean im just dumb
then it make sense

[proven kettle]

well i need bots too

[proven kettle]

ok thank u

[olive depot]

explore app directory

[proven kettle]

wheres that?

[olive depot]

you are on desktop?

[polar viper]

you need someone to configure your bots apparently :omegalul:

[proven kettle]

yeah

[olive depot]

in bottom of server list

[polar viper]

all the way down

[proven kettle]

oh that, what do i search?

[olive depot]

🤦

[polar viper]

you can also go straight in your server under the main tab and hit App Directory

[olive depot]

exactly what you need

[polar viper]

wdym it's your server you should know what bots you need at least

[olive depot]

"i need bots that makes my server decent"

[proven kettle]

OHH sorry guy im actually slow in the head..

i see now

[versed creek]

Lets debate on the best way for tickets either threads or channels

[weary bluff]

$1.25 trillion company btw

[weary bluff]

Threads of course

[winged swan]

no debate

[weary bluff]

That's the one of the reason Discord created private threads

[versed creek]

Any more specific taste for what it should looks like

[neat olive]

I'd argue both have advantages

[weary bluff]

Thread is great 🤷‍♂️

[balmy basin]

yeah i love threading

[weary bluff]

with my app, it is even better

[quiet saddle]

i like single threading

[weary bluff]

it literally creates modmail system with thread which is peak level

[zealous gate]

twitter is nowhere near this valuation luckily

[versed creek]

I mean for when you press the button would it be smth like opens a form lets you type so when thread is created the staff already knows whats the query or like clicking it then bots has this msg there to tell them to keep there query described and pings mods

Or smth else

[balmy basin]

i preferred async on py because threading is not effective for net i/o there, so on go there is just goroutine for anything

[winged swan]

python: I must use single threading

[zealous gate]

using a modal is much better

[winged swan]

-# not really but also pretty much

[balmy basin]

sacul knows 👆

[zealous gate]

some people take forever to type their message so opening the channel before the issue is shown isn't good imo

[versed creek]

Do people like to type it beforehands tho

[quiet saddle]

idk what goroutines are

[modest geyser]

It actually works

[winged swan]

but (hopefully) it will soon be no longer true

[zealous gate]

why wouldn't they

[winged swan]

wat dat

[balmy basin]

lightweight threads

[vagrant roost]

Help

[modest geyser]

MeowAtScam grafana dashboard

[winged swan]

interesting

[zealous gate]

what is the second graph based on

[balmy basin]

honestly im going to stop hating python after that

[versed creek]

I have low attention span i dont find it cool

[winged swan]

python's got a quite exciting JIT too

[zealous gate]

is it based on all messages it saw with 4 images

[modest geyser]

Messages scanned that werent scams compared to ones that were

[weary bluff]

you mean this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US3RtQTANMU

[zealous gate]

the scam stats seem incredibly high

[winged swan]

https://doesjitgobrrr.com

[modest geyser]

The monitor interface is actually modular using dependency injection

[modest geyser]

Its only been running for like an hour

And there was a scam wave

[zealous gate]

what does attention span have to do with whether you type your issue in a modal or in a channel

[rancid crane]

alright

[balmy basin]

wait i thought graphana is cli tool

[weary bluff]

This is so old but the SS is the improved one, it was taking your description and was shortening it to a title of thread xd

[zealous gate]

maukkis was grafana hard to implement

[modest geyser]

Not really

I use influxdb to feed data

[balmy basin]

maukkis does it consume much ram?

[modest geyser]

https://git.girlsmell.xyz/luna/MeowAtScam/commit/88a42d3d650c4d0f321e3ccd153eeda9b233b99d

[zealous gate]

do you have to self host it to view the metrics and stuff

i've always wanted to use it but never really looked into it yet

[modest geyser]

You can host it on a vps or anything

[neat olive]

there's a cloud option for it but selfhosting it is pretty easy

[modest geyser]

Yea

[balmy basin]

i have devops to-do for my current project and after i release web api i will need to setup few things including grafana

[neat olive]

it supports more or less all data sources also

e.g. sql works fine too

[neat olive]

iirc there's a free tier on the cloud one also

[modest geyser]

I just use influxdb to feed data

[neat olive]

I should actually set up grafana again

I haven't reinstalled it after I migrared my dedi

I have all the metrics going on but no visualization

[past hatch]

I’m currently building a big project and I’m looking for people who have around 1–2 years of coding experience and are interested in helping build it, because I can’t realistically do everything alone.

The project is focused on web development, backend systems, automation tools, and Discord bots. I’m mainly looking for people interested in collaborating, helping with development, brainstorming ideas, finding a good domain/branding direction, and building the project into something serious over time.

Current stack includes:
Python, JavaScript, HTML/CSS, FastAPI, Node.js, and discord.py.

You don’t need to be an expert. Just be motivated willing to learn, and able to contribute consistently.

If interested, DM me.

[verbal wraith]

Wrong server

[versed creek]

This version is great for the previous ver did you let the user choose what happens after closing?also thread title area is great but how do you manage the ai credits

[versed creek]

Idk i just dont find it interesting sometimes maybe I show be adding stuff there neatly ig but what can you ask more than just query there can I do tags to able to be selected inside the modal

[zealous gate]

what do you mean interesting? you're literally typing text in a text box to ask your question when using that bot

unless you mean something else

[versed creek]

:c I am not feeling performative enough

[zealous gate]

huh

[versed creek]

The question and the eg in the writing area

And more things things to it

[zealous gate]

sorry i don't get what you're trying to say

[versed creek]

Wait let me explain

I will have people choose the category they want help in ie partnership/general/collab and let them write a gist of what they want to offer or need a help in below

Rather than doing the tags for the thread later

Would this be better??????????

[zealous gate]

yeah modals are better that's what i said

esp now that they support selects

[versed creek]

Again I feel smth is missing not cool enough for now I will get a panel and button to it for this modal what should I put in as button name or should I get a icon 🤔 and then it creates a private thread tells the user to wait and pings the roles for support staff

[eternal hinge]

K

[versed creek]

What I mean by being is cool is not being as similar as the big bots offer for now and have smth rather different I liked neo's idea and didnt like it at the same time

[sick fiber]

Hi guys how can I kick spam bot in server ?

Like this thing

[balmy basin]

!report it

[strong seal]

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[versed creek]

Also if i have one panel and buttons work for it and suddenly my bot restarts or smth then the buttons for that msg will no longer be intractable how is this done i dont get the logic do you keep the msg id and edit it in times like this

[soft yew]

why is there no replacement for the developer badge?

[near crescent]

long tap > view interaction info to access the author, ban the author with "delete message in the last <timespan>" to clean up the spam

[near crescent]

#faq states why it was discontinued and why there won't be a new version of it pretty clearly

[sick fiber]

I did thanks

[ember pollen]

It's friday, no more work life balance shi🙏🙏

[daring wasp]

no

you still recieve the interaction events

what library do you use they have ways on how you make it persist

[versed creek]

Js

[soft yew]

That's enough to reduce my enthusiasm for developing new bots

[quiet saddle]

didn't take much then

[daring wasp]

@versed creek ^

[versed creek]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-point-went-over-your-head-the-point-gif-8730078

[upbeat anchor]

honestly i dont get the appeal of colectors... making buttons stateless is so much more fun

[daring wasp]

I can't explain more than point you to an explanation because I don't use djs

[daring wasp]

well idk how collectors are structured in js

in py making buttons persist across restarts is easily possible but if I don't have to i don't tbh

[upbeat anchor]

its just keeping a callback in mem

[daring wasp]

yea

that's how you can do in py too

async def callback(interaction: discord.Interaction):
and then attach it to a button

that'll keep working as long as the bot is running but for across restarts you use dynamic items

[upbeat anchor]

ya

this is just asking for mem leaks tho

most things you can use as a stateless like slash command perfectly fine

[vestal fractal]

It's a bad choice overall

Not gonna work forever + additional cache

[versed creek]

just what should i finally use for my ticket system thennnnn

Did bro get sniped mid convo

[vestal fractal]

As in

Oh buttons

Idk how it works in djs but something that is dynamic

[versed creek]

Whats dynamic

[glass vortex]

Collectors are good for short-lived context only. If you have a process that involves several steps and need the full information of the full process at the end. For anything that's supposed to live longer than a few minutes collectors are the wrong choice

[glass vortex]

But this forwarded message already fully answered your question in the second paragraph

[versed creek]

The other guy said stateless buttons are more fun tho

[glass vortex]

Yes.
stateless = handle directly in interactionCreate event
No collectors

[versed creek]

Does fun imply with being more useful

[daring wasp]

yes

[cunning coyote]

[daring wasp]

collectors expire as stated so you can't use them for anything that needs to keep running

[modest geyser]

Hi hanna!

[daring wasp]

like you said you were using it for ticket create button

[daring wasp]

hi hanan

[glass vortex]

stateless also means they keep working after restarting. Because the state that is lost doesn't matter to them

[versed creek]

So I would do stateless and for things whose interaction should expire after some time I should use collectors for them?

[versed creek]

Do they put extra usage on ram?

[daring wasp]

no

[ebon oracle]

hello hello

[vestal fractal]

on the contrary

[daring wasp]

it'll be lower

[versed creek]

Imagine i have command whose interaction should expire after 1 min or so typically but I make them stateless and 100 of those commands are being ran and none of whose interaction has expired what would this hypothetically do

[cunning coyote]

hai luna and sora

[vestal fractal]

That's not how it works

Your button never expires

People can click it forever

[daring wasp]

think of manually handling interaction create like

when someone clicks a button discord receives it it sends it to your bot

[vestal fractal]

And their interactions are always "new"

[glass vortex]

Start a timeout to edit the message. No need for more state than that. If buttons disappear or get disabled they can't issue interactions anymore. Don't need a collector to do that

[daring wasp]

yep you can just re edit the message with interactive components being disabled

[vestal fractal]

Also in stateless you rely on the component's custom id to save data, at least by design it's this way

[glass vortex]

I myself never was a fan of storing internal data in user-facing custom_id

id for reference, data in DB referenced by id

[vestal fractal]

Well that's not always the use case

The custom id can make things much easier in many cases

[versed creek]

Active listener vs passive responder🤔

[olive depot]

if anyone wanna report.. i dont want to start dm first with modmail

[glass vortex]

"I don't want to report the proper way so I instead post a screenshot so you can report the proper way on my behalf"? 🤔

[olive depot]

exactlly

[glass vortex]

Might want to reconsider that stance

[copper panther]

agreed.

[plucky thunder]

am i the only one of like when i join a server that has a tag it keeps showing me this when i click the X it re-appears every times its so annoying and its been doing that for months now.

[verbal wraith]

Not really

[polar viper]

i just click edit profile then leave and it never shows again

[plucky thunder]

it would be nice if someone fix this.

[polar viper]

i don’t think any of us here are able to do that

[verbal wraith]

Then report it as a bug to discord

[vestal fractal]

Looks like a bug

[plucky thunder]

ofc it is.

no one at discord ever noticed that

its been months

[verbal wraith]

For you, not for most of the users

[polar viper]

and you didn’t think to report it back then when you personally noticed it for the first time

[vestal fractal]

The bug reporting system exists for a reason :p

[warm tapir]

Fffdffffĺ

[plucky thunder]

i got too excited ...

ofc its clyde 😭

[tardy plaza]

okay dont worry. i have fixed this

[polar viper]

whats wrong w clyde

[plucky thunder]

wdym???

[polar viper]

he’s john discord

[versed creek]

Clyde vs wump

[tardy plaza]

UwUmpus

[plucky thunder]

[versed creek]

,quote

[olive depot]

is it bot name in bottom right corner

[versed creek]

Obv

[spiral reef]

does someone know how to play at the new discrod game to get the badge?

I updated discord but it doesn't show it

[viscid steppe]

new? you mean the april fools game?

look at the calendar

[spiral reef]

it is still active

[viscid steppe]

what day is it, does it read april on the calendar

the game is closed like 3 weeks ago

[spiral reef]

well this is the answer I wanted

thanks

[trim geode]

How productive do we think I'll be today? 🥚

[ember pollen]

sleep

[trim geode]

bro I just have risen

[modest geyser]

Very!

Matt i made a grafana dashboard for MeowAtScam

[trim geode]

Maybe I'll get at least 10 lines of code written!

oh? heck yeah!

gotta drop the screenies

[versed creek]

Eat some cinnamon toast

[ember pollen]

what is that

[polar viper]

missing out

[trim geode]

h-e-double-hocket-sticks yeah

[wide pasture]

Running vs code on live ubuntu session 😭

[modest geyser]

True

I made the interface to send data modular with dependency injection

[trim geode]

Yesterday I finally got a dedicated server so I'm looking at finally shifting some things over to it. I might even ( ) deploy grafana

[modest geyser]

Awesome

[trim geode]

although I'm looking at doing a whole LGTM stack to replace my grafana cloud

[ember pollen]

guys what is the best way to control my server

[trim geode]

SSH

[ember pollen]

like which ssh client is the best

[ember pollen]

ik that

i tried PuTTy it isnt good enough

i need multiple sessions

[peak halo]

Termius is nice

[ember pollen]

link?

[trim geode]

terminal

[peak halo]

one google search

[trim geode]

even the new powershell cores are fully compatible

you don't need anything else

literally ssh user@ip and good to go

[ember pollen]

ye not good enough when you need alot and alot of things to run

its slow i think

[trim geode]

it's SSH...it's not slow

if anything using all those tools slow it down

[peak halo]

when you need alot and alot of things to run

Maybe you're doing something wrong

[trim geode]

very likely yeah

[ember pollen]

i might be idk

[peak halo]

If you have a lot and a lot of SSH connections on your server, you're definitely doing something wrong

[trim geode]

I haven't personally used a dedicated tool since like 2014/2015 and was on Windows only and using PuTTy for convinence only

[peak halo]

I use Termius to cleanly separate the servers and I don't need to have local hostnames for them

[ember pollen]

anyway thanks guys

[trim geode]

I just hit the up arrow till I find the IP I want lmao

[ember pollen]

i am doing smth wrong

[peak halo]

Becomes not handy when you manage quite a dozen :(

[trim geode]

that's my initial logins when I provision lmao

[versed creek]

This is what being performative means

[trim geode]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-5958854468941694453

[floral rapids]

as much as I'd like to see the video I'm on mobile data, however noticed something, have you not considered moving to tailscale only for being able to ssh into the server? So it's more than just the ssh keys required

[trim geode]

if you look at my most recent IPs you'll see 100. a lot

Tailscale previous pricing couldn't justify it

plus those were established servers for multiple years and had UFW rules in place for just my IP address.

but in my new dedi I just picked up I threw it in Tailscale to save me the headache.

however I had to rewrite parts of my ansible playbook to support tailscale and only allowing tailscale connections via SSH

[floral rapids]

thanks 👍

I kinda switched to only having access to my server using tailscale / headscale (or whatever the name was) was looking into people knowing tailscale and not using it, your answer gave me a perfect response to that

[olive depot]

MattTheGroq

[trim geode]

Probably could write this better tbh

[stone turtle]

algum br?

[versed creek]

I forgot commands i wanted to put in my bot cuz I didnt write it down

[glass silo]

Sounds like some boring commands

[versed creek]

I dont even remember them >:(

[glass silo]

Hence they being too boring

[olive depot]

i always forgot interesting stuff

[versed creek]

It was temp role channel lock and smth else i dont remember

[zinc vector]

there is any way to verify my discord bot in india

the stripe is banned and cannot even create an account from india

[peak halo]

then no

[zealous gate]

stripe is not banned in india

[olive depot]

You don't need stripe account for verification??

It just process info

Or maybe he's trying to say about monetization

[vestal fractal]

Or the type of ID

[grim cobalt]

[quiet saddle]

If you have a passport that should be fine

regardless of issuer afaik

[zinc vector]

ohh ok do i recive a mail after i sumbitted bot for verification to get personal info??

[vestal fractal]

No

It prompts you to scan your ID

[olive depot]

It's just instant

[zinc vector]

yeah i done it before 4 weeks its not got verified still now

[patent carbon]

You just need to do it again

It only takes a couple minutes. But it can fail for many reasons...or your documents were invalid for verification

[zinc vector]

ohh ok bro let me try again

[quiet saddle]

You should be doing something like this and then just following the steps after you click "Agree and Continue" - if not, then we're talking about something different

[trim geode]

This is not a recruiting server

[misty python]

Guys

[patent carbon]

Nor is it a Minecraft coding server...

[verbal wraith]

Yes?

[patent carbon]

And gals

[verbal wraith]

So, we are just gonna wait like that or...

[zinc vector]

ok thanks

[ember pollen]

just found this

[feral sand]

Sorry

[trim geode]

that sounds like hell

[ember pollen]

why

[opaque shell]

Guys i was learning dev

[verbal wraith]

"Indie hackers" lmao

[trim geode]

I don't think I've ever, once in my life, or know anyone once in their life who said "oh yeah lets live collaborate on designing the most important and sometimes difficult part of a system"

[opaque shell]

Can u tell me basic

[balmy basin]

yet another ai made website

[ember pollen]

i mean enterprises do it i think

[trim geode]

no...no they don't

[ember pollen]

lol ye

[patent carbon]

"most important and often immutable part of a system"

[quiet saddle]

immutability mentioned

[trim geode]

They will use flow charting tools to design an overarching idea of the system (I've seen TLDraw and Excalidraw a few times, even drawio) but the implementation is usually done in code and if absolutely needed visual diagrams are generated from the source of truth, the codebase

[patent carbon]

but javascript is supposed to be mutable

[trim geode]

or the source of truth being a DB migrated from the code migrations (if you use migrations)

[quiet saddle]

wdym

[patent carbon]

idk... dumb bad joke because js weird

[trim geode]

JS is always weird

[ember pollen]

i logged in it it actually just drawing and figma then they just generate a sql schema

[trim geode]

that makes it 10 times worse.

[quiet saddle]

me when all my interfaces look like this

[trim geode]

I would never trust a random vibe coded tool to generate my entire SQL schemas.

[trim geode]

Oh, that looks absolutely terrible.

That is literally a piss poor design.

[quiet saddle]

dear god what tool is that

[ember pollen]

lmao

[quiet saddle]

it's horrific

[ember pollen]

it sucks fr

lol

[sweet socket]

ohh

[trim geode]

And then they want you to expect that it will generate your migrations for you when they can't even build a UI that represents those models correctly.

[ember pollen]

i had a stroke trying to use it

[quiet saddle]

so much unnecessary visual noise... the ridiculous borders (all same color, too)... the scrollbars...

[ember pollen]

i mean as an idea it might be good but execution? hell na

[trim geode]

https://dbdiagram.io/home literally just use this if you need a diagram that bad lmao

[ember pollen]

lmao fr

[trim geode]

!support as it says

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[zinc vector]

ok

[fossil swift]

interesting.. i may check it out

[versed creek]

Where is ace and serverit

I need to know how do you get user badges and guild tag

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[versed creek]

No bro

I dont mean it that way

[daring wasp]

Do you mean like for the profile command they use?

[winged meadow]

Anyone know sereve where I could look for someone who could help me with coding my discord bot?

[versed creek]

Yessssssssssssssss

[stuck bronze]

#1478857869960019968

[versed creek]

I know I need to get all icons and put them in bot emoji list but how do you get to know what things they have

[trim geode]

wtf was done yesterday that had such high usage

[winged meadow]

But, I mean really help to write the code. Edit it and all. To be likely co-founder of it

[daring wasp]

inside the primary guild part

[patent carbon]

https://fiverr.com

[versed creek]

And what about the badges

[patent carbon]

Some you have to guess, others are visible as user flags

[versed creek]

Ooo and what about me getting all the badge icons and guild tag icons

[ember pollen]

WOAH

[patent carbon]

Badges, you have to download yourself. Guild tags icons are part of the primary_guild object. You fetch them from the CDN

The colors won't match however as the CDN only sends the base icon, not the color modified ones

[quiet saddle]

Diagram I made awhile ago

[trim geode]

I love it

[quiet saddle]

There are 0 overlapping connectors

[versed creek]

How would I match guild tag badge with with its string value or wtv that is

[patent carbon]

https://docs.discord.com/developers/reference#image-formatting

[warm badge]

i can login to my acc tomorrow or no? i didnt do anything to get ban

[hushed harness]

I don't know the password or email address for my old Discord account, I only know the name. Does anyone know how I can get it back?

[verbal wraith]

!support

[strong seal]

This server is for help with Discord APIs, SDK and other various integrations. For general support, please contact Discord at https://dis.gd/contact, or send us a message on Twitter at @discord_support

[verbal wraith]

For both of you pretty much

[wide pasture]

Guys i created a new command for the bot but it is giving an console error.

[patent carbon]

What's the error?

[wide pasture]

Let me send it.

[flint epoch]

To share long code snippets, use a service like gist, sourcebin, pastebin, or similar instead of posting them as large code blocks or files.

[pallid oriole]

yes, please use a pastebin or similar!

[wide pasture]

Got it.

Wait my pc lagged.

@patent carbon https://pastebin.com/c35MRHbQ

[granite meadow]

The Discord support team Write me not

[patent carbon]

Just wait. Response times depend on a lot of things

Some are faster than others