#Enough is Enough

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dim marlin
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Wolfgod

hardy mist
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No not really that like

timber lichen
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I’m just copying/pasting what I said 3 days ago in the aftermath of the video showing zeky/orca planes in perfect synchronization

dim marlin
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So you saying all goth are cheaters because they coordinate on discord voice?

timber lichen
dim marlin
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You keep bringing it up so

timber lichen
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I’m going back to work if you’re just going to try to draw false equivalencies and enable cheaters

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Have a good day guys

dim marlin
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You dont see our voice channels so don't just spew thing in the world

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Stop account sharing yourselves then we can talk about false equivalents

hardy mist
# timber lichen I’m just copying/pasting what I said 3 days ago in the aftermath of the video sh...

Yes because he did like this:

Step 1:
Get Phone 1 Get Phone 2

Step 2:
Login to Warpath

Step 3:
Change to 3 FPā€˜s formation

Step 4:
Message in City Chat that you gonna make the enemy cry

Step 5:
Attention has been added and people are standby to record

Step 6:

Left hand with fingers choose a spot to fly with the 3 planes of Player no. 1

Right hand with fingers choose the same spot to fly with the 3 planes of Player no. 2

Step 7:
Enemy alliance active people who been called to record, just follow the tags that has been set with ā€žRECORDā€œ ā€žRECORDā€œ

Step 8:
Send Video and mass report to Lilith Support/Warpath Support

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Thats all what zeky did, not like me before having instances on bluestacks back in S21.

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I am repeating again, I am no longer playing this or using any emulators, all what we do is having the B52 group and others joining VC in our Discord Server

dim marlin
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Like I said before goth has a amazing co-ordination aswell. And that all because they are on voice chat with each other

dim marlin
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F2p same thing. All of them use voice chat to coordinate. That's not cheating.

tropic grail
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Cause the planes aren’t moving a few tiles back and forth. You’re not gonna tell me on 2 phones you can scroll click a title at the same exact time all while looking to see where the opponents are to actually get kills

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Atleast f key was funny

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But the excuses and lies are actually sad

errant atlas
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i can make video for u

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i already had one on nomoneys

tropic grail
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Not watch a literal user of exploits complain that exploits are used.

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He can enjoy gold

tropic grail
errant atlas
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okay

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i already have look

tropic grail
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This should be great

errant atlas
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naahh i just did on nomoneys

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back then

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just have the video

tropic grail
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šŸ‘ gotcha

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So you don’t

errant atlas
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no need to defend myself i personally dont care what u think

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i dont see script

tropic grail
# errant atlas

Lmfaoooo, yeah now show it moving like you did in this video

errant atlas
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moving the same

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i drag screen on both and click same tile same time

uncut locust
errant atlas
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gggs though buck

errant atlas
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clearly can see i scroll both devices to spot and click same

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ur cuties though

tropic grail
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I would like to see it done like this. Moving over mountains, scrolling all over the place. Scanning for planes while doing your slow ass explanation video

errant atlas
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okay

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same thing

halcyon mirage
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that's why accountsharing rule must be enforced too, simple as

errant atlas
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ur still just scrolling

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literally the same

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click tile over mountain

tropic grail
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Do this one 2 phones same time

errant atlas
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just actually going against people

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the other time was just test example

hardy mist
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no he wants to see the 2 devices and the fingers

tropic grail
hardy mist
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not the display

tropic grail
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Cause it’s not possible

uncut locust
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but offial its not your acc so its against the rule

errant atlas
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it definitely is

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did u see how long the planes sat behind goth base at start?

tropic grail
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Glad Lilith didn’t buy the bs

errant atlas
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because i scrolled both devices and fly over

tropic grail
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Mkay

errant atlas
tropic grail
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For someone who doesn’t care your defending a lot

errant atlas
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u asked me too

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šŸ˜‚

tropic grail
errant atlas
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no defense im just stating what i was doing

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like i said i couldnt care less what you think

tropic grail
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Okay f key have a good day

errant atlas
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at the end of the day i know im simply just better than you

tropic grail
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Won’t see me on a ban list bud

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šŸ˜šŸ˜˜

errant atlas
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u dont even have your own account bud

tropic grail
errant atlas
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still have my own account bb

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my bad i play other accounts just like you

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im smelling hypocrisy

tropic grail
tropic grail
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Devs know I play on sing, that’s how they speak to him.

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But try to get them to ban me for it 🤣

hardy mist
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not zeky

tropic grail
errant atlas
naive wren
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Most certainly not the the issue killing the game for us. Sharing accounts with my team would be a great help if we could. Especially to combat the lvl80 collectors coming to g3 from epic and absolutely destroying the game for the lower players. Not sure how many players we have to lose before lillith fixes the matchmaking? Still haven't used the navy yet, spent both navy events in the sz or on land cause of these epic players and coiners in g3 with maxed boats and officers. Do we really need to break up our teams and spread out in silver now to play the game? It's getting worse each event, not to mention dropping the units to lvl160 in g3, as if the bases weren't hard enough to kill before. Never before seen players clock up 500m-900m in FM in g3 from completely dominating so badly. Great work lillith, now we have some of our biggest players terminating accounts šŸ¤£šŸ‘

dim marlin
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Maybe he should play his own account and stfuLmao cepha_kekw

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Always funny someone trash talking others yet they cheat aswell beeing the driver of one of the most powerful accounts in warpath Dogsmile

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But when 300 does it it's "excepted " it's still cheating so @tropic grail STOP cheating

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And a IP bann won't change nothing. You dumb ? Never hear of VPNs or dynamic IP addresses

grizzled idol
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You can ip ban and device ban no?

somber musk
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To be fair multi boxing and account sharing got to a point where if you dont do it yourself you’re just shooting yourself in the foot. I miss the days when it was not pretty much the norm to have everyone share their account.

I Hope it would be adressed seriously one day…
Like either delete it from the ToS or apply said ToS šŸ˜…

Too many alliances abuse account sharing and I personally know alot of players who do it just like everyone here. It’s not healthy for the game stability and like Alex said compĆ©titive wise it’s just getting worst. Warpath is at the core a mobile game, not a full time job or a god dam Rust server with 600 pops where you have to have alarms when you get raided to wake up and defend 18/7

dim marlin
# grizzled idol You can ip ban and device ban no?

As stated IP addresses are easily changed. Device banns work on the mac adres with can be changed easily aswell. Only punishment that work work is 3 times and bann of the account 4th time perma bann

dim marlin
tropic grail
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Support literally says that

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90% of the game shares 🤣

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It’s about having 1 account per device

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That’s within the rules.

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1 device with 15 accounts is not

dim marlin
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Show me where support says that. Means the people who don't can get a full refund aw

tropic grail
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You know how to do a support ticket?

dim marlin
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It's litterly in the ToC you moron

tropic grail
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TOS and support

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Aren’t saying the same thing

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TOS - says it’s not allowed

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Support - says it does

dim marlin
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Well they say drunk driving is ok aswell

tropic grail
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That’s why I said they both need to match

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Or this issue will happen

tropic grail
dim marlin
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With all due respect support are just bots. In the toc it clearly says its not allowed

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That they condone it is just because of money spend

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If you spend enough you can do whatever you want lilith doesn't care

naive wren
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If its cheating, then lillith should stop making it faster and easier to swap between 🤣

tropic grail
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Just like a government with lupolls

dim marlin
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Like I said pay enough and you can break rules how ever you want

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That's the core issue here

tropic grail
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But the major issue is they want 1 account 1 device

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Not 15 accounts 1 device

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You cant have multiple devices on 1 account

dim marlin
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O I agree 1 account 1 device no switching

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If a whale wants a driver fine but they can't play themselves then

tropic grail
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Sing for instance plays maybe 5-10 minutes a day if that

dim marlin
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That still cheating

tropic grail
dim marlin
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2 persons 1 account

tropic grail
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He cannot login while I am in

dim marlin
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It's not because singsong payed alot of money

tropic grail
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It’s still 1:1

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1 player 1 device

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If he logs in I’m booted off

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But you can use a computer and run 15 - 20 bases with needing only 1 human

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That’s the issue

dim marlin
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A whale account active 24/7 hurts the fair play of a game period

tropic grail
dim marlin
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Bluestacks is already banned

tropic grail
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That’s the point

tropic grail
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It’s an emulator

dim marlin
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No the point is whale accounts beeing shared

tropic grail
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JD whatever the hell it is, is also an emulator

dim marlin
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When someone multi box 300m accounts nobody cares

tropic grail
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The suggestion DW has said for years is to ban Emulators

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Solves everything

dim marlin
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Whale accounts change the game

tropic grail
somber musk
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But, ToS is what dictate what you can or cant do in a game no ? If support says yes but ToS says no than aint Lilith in an issue legally speaking ? O.o

tropic grail
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Stop using a lower variable to try to suit your s40 must defend cheating narrative

dim marlin
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So how is it different ignm and what your doing

tropic grail
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Zeky. 5 bases 1 human on it

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Is basic math hard?

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If there were 5 sing songs and I was controlling it

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Yes that’s cheating

dim marlin
tropic grail
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But 1 human to 1 account at a time

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Is not cheating

tropic grail
somber musk
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Lilith also does ban for account sharing btw

tropic grail
dim marlin
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What 5 accounts is he multiboxing in s40 then?

somber musk
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If you go tell support that you want to unlink someone who is sharing your account they will ban you xD

tropic grail
dim marlin
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Ignm accounts 100% agreed we reported that multiple times

tropic grail
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It’s still not 1:1

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Which is what Lilith is fighting against

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1 human, 1 device

dim marlin
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It does matter. It's the same like I'm says 500 people play singsong account

tropic grail
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That is still 1:1

dim marlin
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You says its only 1 at a time still the account is active around the clock which is cheating

tropic grail
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That’s the point Lilith is making

naive wren
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If its such an issue, and if lillith is truly against is, they'd remove the swap account button

somber musk
tropic grail
dim marlin
somber musk
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I aint making roles on the same account, when I want to play on an account I run on pc and if I had stuff to do on my other server I use the phone at the sametime xD

tropic grail
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I’ve fallen asleep before and the clients been on. Will that mean I get banned for keeping it online?

somber musk
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So when I wanna swap back to the other account on pc, I want to be able to swap 🄲

dim marlin
tropic grail
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I just always find it comical it’s only S40 people defending cheating

dim marlin
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He showed them proof it was just his device and got unbanned

tropic grail
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Maybe do what your buddy buggex said and change your names, cheat with 300 players names on it and trash talk us šŸ¤•šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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Maybe then you’ll feel better about cheating

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Clown ass server 🤣

dim marlin
tropic grail
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šŸ‘

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Please do

dim marlin
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Support says otherwise but ToC clearly states different

somber musk
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They could, if they wanted to loose money

tropic grail
naive wren
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They make too much money to ban it completely šŸ˜…

tropic grail
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Account sharing is still 1:1

dim marlin
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So 300 just defending the right to cheat its comical

tropic grail
dim marlin
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Yes I eat crayons and lick windows

tropic grail
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Explains why you can’t find a 300 base in the ban list

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We’re so for cheating right

somber musk
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Multi boxing is clearly something that needs to stop but account sharing is something Lilith will never openly go against (Unless youre a gum gum like a certain someone who got 2 accounts banned for telling support he was sharing brilliant) since alot of whales would literally stop playing mid way or spending as much.

dim marlin
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100%

tropic grail
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Does that mean he claims I’m the owner? Then what

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I have a loader?

somber musk
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In alot of whales cases, pilots are the reasons said whales spend that much.

tropic grail
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Too many lupolls

dim marlin
somber musk
tropic grail
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And the owner will not go against a trusted driver

somber musk
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But lets be fair in a case where youre trying to kick someone from the account good luck getting him to say youre the owner xD

tropic grail
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That’s why I don’t get the beef with sing 🤣

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Sing could buy the town I live in and nuke it

somber musk
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Good pilots are rare these days xD

tropic grail
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You think I’m stealing from this mf?

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🤣

somber musk
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Ammount of accounts peps sent me screens asking to fix stuff is just insane, like what are pilots doing 🄲

dim marlin
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Well you live in a crack house everyone can buy itšŸ˜‚ 🤣 šŸ˜‚ 🤣

tropic grail
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When the developers speak to me to speak to sing, because Derek knows, sing declined to speak to them and opted for me to speak to them for him

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That’s why I don’t get why people think it’s a big scandal

somber musk
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Arguing about it wont change anything anyway, we all know Lilith won't put a complete stop on account sharing. Banning multi-boxing is a massive improuvement tho.

tropic grail
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Like homie trying to get personal because he can’t regurgitate the same nonsense his S40 overlords asked him to say

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Sorry not sorry

dim marlin
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Aslong as lilith breaks their own ToC all this is a waste of time. Same was with Boa and the ignm accounts

tropic grail
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Multiboxing is the ruin to the game. Not a megawhale playing epic

dim marlin
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Like you calling me a idiot? Not personal? Hypocrite?

tropic grail
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Go yell at the mega whales in gold with 3-4 drivers

dim marlin
tropic grail
somber musk
tropic grail
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Educated guess

tropic grail
naive wren
dim marlin
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It's so funny you accusing me for what your doing yourself šŸ˜‚ 🤣 šŸ˜‚ 🤣

tropic grail
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Collector level should be a disqualification in gold

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If your collector level is over this limit

somber musk
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Yeah thats a fact

tropic grail
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You have to play epic

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That stops sandbagging

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Fixes gold

dim marlin
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Kills the game

somber musk
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Collector cap is a most, make whales go compete higher if they want to abuse it

tropic grail
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And makes epic higher competition

dim marlin
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Plenty dont want to play epic because of the account sharing of whales

naive wren
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Epic guys came to gold 3 in Vancouver. ShĆØt on the map šŸ˜…

tropic grail
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Not the multiboxing that your alliance used to benefit from?

dim marlin
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It's the truth

tropic grail
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Give me a break

dim marlin
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Multiboxing is wrong period

tropic grail
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People play epic because they’re competitors

somber musk
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Did someone mention F2P recent exposure in this post ? xD

tropic grail
dim marlin
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And I agree accounts that multibox should get banned

tropic grail
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S40 the most recently caught with the pants down

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If they were clean eyes would be on F2P more

dim marlin
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There's not even a argument about that. Same goes for accounts beeing share by multiple people

somber musk
naive wren
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F2p the alliance? Or free 2 play?

dim marlin
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You keep saying s40 but it was just 1 player

tropic grail
somber musk
tropic grail
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And what deems account sharing. Going from my work to my home is two different IPs

naive wren
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@somber musk too funny, we had thus alliamce in gold 3 with players who claimed to be from epic

tropic grail
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That would be account sharing

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That’s the point you’re making

somber musk
dim marlin
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Now your defending your cheating

tropic grail
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Sing travels from China to Europe probably ever 2 days

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Does that mean that’s account sharing ?

tropic grail
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Now debate the point

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How do you stop that

dim marlin
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No your not

somber musk
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I think where Than want to get at is that you can't know if someone is account sharing based on IP's

dim marlin
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You say 1 person 1 account. You playing his account is cheating and sharing

tropic grail
tropic grail
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Nord VPN and I’m in China

dim marlin
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You can try and twist it how you want but it's against the toc

naive wren
tropic grail
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These are things Lilith already ask and have work around for

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Your problem is you want it so badly because 40 can’t multi box so that way no one can account share

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Okay go tell Neto he’s now banned

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Go ask Mau when he quit who used his account

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Like what you’re saying literally goes for 90% of the game

dim marlin
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Do you read what I said? Banned multiple boxing and account sharing simple

tropic grail
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So I want you to start Demanding s40’whales don’t account share

dim marlin
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No matter what alliance

tropic grail
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I demand 300 players don’t multi box

somber musk
tropic grail
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So don’t be a hypocrite bb

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😘

dim marlin
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Your just trying to make s40 look bad that's your whole goal here. You don't care about fairness

tropic grail
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Or were all banned by the mighty shanker

somber musk
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s40 can't really say anything about account sharing no ? Did mag44 not get caught live and his reaction was so priceless it was funny xD

dim marlin
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It's like when 1 person on a country does something everyone is bad

tropic grail
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Oh wait, you won’t cause that hurts S40

dim marlin
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Atleast is play my own account and don't benefit of my sugga daddy Lmao

naive wren
tropic grail
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I tell birdz I don’t want cheating at all for my Allie’s

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Can you say 40 does the same?

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No because they cheat 🤣

dim marlin
tropic grail
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Thank you judge, I rest my case

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Shanker lick my rump

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Time to account share Lmao Lmao Lmao Lmao

dim marlin
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Oooo should I be offended now

somber musk
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Pardon me but what is a rump ? French weirdo overhere

tropic grail
naive wren
dim marlin
tropic grail
naive wren
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Rump steak?

tropic grail
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I said it cause it’s not insulting to say lick my rump. I have a rump in my freezer

dim marlin
tropic grail
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Very good quality meat

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I just wanna share with shanker

naive ledge
somber musk
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Learned the word Grit the other day, 2nd word in 3 days. Progress !

tropic grail
naive wren
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You'd be surprised what some would see as offensive. I was muted for saying purple kush and white rhino 🤣

naive ledge
tropic grail
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Will I be banned for using another persons base if they are offline

somber musk
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M1ddyy new name shall be : Sir.M1ddyy The Great

naive ledge
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Technically u should kinda, but Lilith doesnt care about sharing Shruge

dim marlin
tropic grail
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Cause then the issue lies with who is the owner.

naive wren
tropic grail
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And Lilith doesn’t have the time to play lawyer 24/7

somber musk
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Like lets be fair tho, Lilith is still there to make money. Can't expect them to start banning 90% of the playerbase and loose said financial income. ^^'

dim marlin
tropic grail
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You never see people in epic complaining

naive ledge
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The owner is the one who made the account with its email and u should be able to confirm it via first payment in the game Shruge

tropic grail
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Until they got rid of the precious multibox

somber musk
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I'll still complain for collector levels cap, I can deal with account sharing xD

naive ledge
dim marlin
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Also the end of the game because lilith doesn't hold up their own ToC

tropic grail
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Either your collector level gets nerfed to play gold

naive wren
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Who exactly do you complain to? Cause support doesn't seem to understand a word we say

dim marlin
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Why you think 130 members is max now. Because of the massive amount of players that quit

tropic grail
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I just spam Derek and then he tells me go away

naive ledge
tropic grail
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Major battles with 255 were stand still

naive ledge
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Support isn't native language, they use translator most of the time

tropic grail
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Villages taking hours to complete

somber musk
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Thats the highest 82 got and I sometimes feels like facing that with Gold 3 restricted units is rough often. So can't even imagine a god dam lvl 80 collector playing low league to bully.

naive ledge
somber musk
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Even more with lvl 160 units...

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I hate that lvl 160 ^^'

tropic grail
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Go attack the 200m bases shanker

naive ledge
tropic grail
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I want you to stop being a hypocrite cause sing isn’t on your side

somber musk
tropic grail
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Cause Neto sure as hell doesn’t sure as hell doesn’t mind account sharing

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Nor does mau

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Or orca.

naive ledge
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Gaugau Peepowhatthat

tropic grail
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But you point at sing because 40 got caught cheating

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You know what name you’ll never see on a ban list

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Sings

dim marlin
tropic grail
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You have lag at 130?

dim marlin
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The laggs are unreal this lvl4

naive ledge
tropic grail
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I get lag on the pc client cause it’s optimized by Hellen Keller

dim marlin
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The second you login it goes to lite mide

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Mode

tropic grail
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I Never have issues on phone tbh

dim marlin
naive wren
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I can't even watch those epic battles when the coords are shared, the lag is crazy

tropic grail
dim marlin
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I never had issues on phone either until 2 lvls4 ago

tropic grail
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Lilith keeps making larger maps and more animated base skins

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We’ll never see 255

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Without a dedicated server

dim marlin
naive ledge
dim marlin
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We spend alot of money here and they use temu servers

tropic grail
somber musk
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Ngl I do have frame drops when I watch high leagues, my pc is a 6 years old spec so it’s starting to show 🤣

tropic grail
naive wren
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I unlocked the gold skin for my truck on the 2nd day of Vancouver 🤣

tropic grail
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Bam I now claim I am singsong

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Legally I’m no longer an account sharer

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We are the same person

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Beep boop beep boop

errant atlas
tropic grail
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But when you control 5 to 1 touch

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That is

errant atlas
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nobody does 5 to touch 1

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you only saw 2 accounts doing it because i dont have 3 hands

tropic grail
errant atlas
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ur basing it off nyle doing it in pc2

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i never touched bluestacks

tropic grail
tropic grail
errant atlas
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where did you witness me doing it exactly?

tropic grail
errant atlas
tropic grail
errant atlas
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oh really

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when

tropic grail
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The exact date is on the video provided to the courts

errant atlas
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why are we in a court

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just having normal conversation

tropic grail
errant atlas
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about when you saw me using bluestacks

tropic grail
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So playing it up for the fun

errant atlas
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im not trying to argue though

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just genuine question

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out of curiosity

tropic grail
errant atlas
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ive seen alot of videos when i fly 6 planes

tropic grail
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That’s up Lilith to determine what they see

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I ain’t in your bedroom

errant atlas
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yeah i know

tropic grail
errant atlas
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please sneak in the window

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i need some alone time with you

tropic grail
errant atlas
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why ?

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im not upset with you

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your entitled to your own opinion

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you think i cheat its fine

tropic grail
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It’s more that you tread that extremely fine line

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So when you aren’t you’re like mfs im not cheating

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But when you do you also say you aren’t

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There is no truth with you

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So how would anyone know

errant atlas
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i mean whos ever cheating if i literally only play on ipads or iphone

tropic grail
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You’re not blatant enough to were people nyle you

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But at the same time the Ihnm stuff is why your name was so poorly viewed

errant atlas
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never touched pc warpath unfortunately

tropic grail
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Is it fair people group you and nyle together?

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No but guilty by association is a literal crime

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Soooooo

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Like

errant atlas
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yeah its cool

tropic grail
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That’s why people go straight to you cheating

errant atlas
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i stand ten toes behind nyle

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its good if hes a cheater im a cheater

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if hes gay im gay

tropic grail
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🤣

errant atlas
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you feel me

tropic grail
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Outside of that I don’t have issues with you

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But as for cheating

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I don’t like it

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So when you tread it so often

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I’m like Breh

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Gets tiring

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But that doesn’t mean I’m okay with anyone doing it. If F2P cheats screw em. If goth cheats screw em.

errant atlas
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i tread it because i get a reaction out of wp community

tropic grail
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But 300 just doesn’t.

errant atlas
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its funny

tropic grail
errant atlas
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i did it for 10 mins

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and look all that occurred after

tropic grail
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This is why i did this

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I’m taking claim to virtual property which indeed is claiming that I am singsong. Sing will not dispute to get his own account banned

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Because im bored

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And it’s funny to me

errant atlas
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you see the domino effect

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of me flying planes for 10 mins

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if anything i helped

tropic grail
errant atlas
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now lilith

tropic grail
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I’ll give you that

errant atlas
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is standing on business

tropic grail
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They should’ve been on business 4 years ago

errant atlas
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and im not worried because like i said nothing to hide

tropic grail
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But here we are lol

errant atlas
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anyways

dim marlin
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Yes zeky gey got 3 leggs🤣

errant atlas
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thats only for s40

dim marlin
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But you always say you can touch it if you say no hom.o before it's not gey

timber lichen
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Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a rhetorical tactic where someone deflects an accusation or criticism by responding with a counter-accusation, often focusing on someone else's purported hypocrisy or wrongdoing instead of addressing the original point. It's a way of changing the subject and avoiding accountability.

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This is also considered specious reasoning as a sub type of ad hominem attacks which are formal fallacies in logic. So again I’ll say you are making a bad faith argument

hardy mist
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what the

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@timber lichen I need that in dumb version

timber lichen
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Quit deflecting

dim marlin
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Right back at yeah

timber lichen
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Ooof

dim marlin
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@errant atlas all your fault can you take it to private with them so the whole community doesn't have to read all this sh.itDazed

timber lichen
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Finally some accountability on display. We all agree this is all Zeky’s fault. @spice slate you can close the thread.

dim marlin
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Wasn't even the question he even post the screenshots that it was him🤣

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And the hey 300 record this on lvl4 chat was a give away aswell no?šŸ˜‚

timber lichen
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I’m not going to speculate on someone’s motivation for announcing they are about to cheat. Perhaps it’s similar to streaming yourself cheating on your alliance discord.

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Some sort of deep rooted need for attention and for reinforcing in-group favoritism

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Something you could explore in your alliance with wet cousin since that person is so fond of making psychological diagnoses

dim marlin
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I think its a joke gone bad. But yeah nyle did when he was in s21. But he hasn't in 40 as far as I know anyway. The zeky thing well he got his punishment for that bad joke.

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But there's 98 others on that list not related to s40 dont see anyone complaining and targeting them

errant atlas
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okay

hardy mist
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S40 did really great this season or has anyone something else to say?

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But letā€˜s stop this topic and focus what is should be talked about the current topic

tropic grail
hardy mist
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?

tropic grail
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Something tells me we will see the actual S40 in Aegean Sea. So we shall see

errant atlas
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you guys are funny

tropic grail
errant atlas
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14-34 always been the most shit talking alliance when have dirt under there own finger nails

tropic grail
errant atlas
tropic grail
errant atlas
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its good

hardy mist
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See you guys in 2 weeks

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Have a good rest and recover

tropic grail
silent rune
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Sadly they don’t care. I’ve sent so many videos showing proof of blue stacks and auto train scripts. Always the same response. ā€œThis isn’t enough evidence to take action against these playersā€

vital lily
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All these slap on the wrist bans will do is allow players to strategically multibox on important days. Catch the ban for the 15 hours and go back to normal

steel hollow
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@sick surge