Black Sheepy is a bit confusing. I’m guessing that this means an attacking player can choose to attack Black Sheepy directly, without the defending player having a say, but it’s not super clear.
Is that how it works or am I misunderstanding?
#Black Sheepy
dull sage
prime flume
The way I read it is you can choose for one of your monsters to fight it.
eternal nebula
Correct
prime flume
Like you choose to attack the player, and black sheepy. I'm not sure if you can send multiple monsters at it though.
Like I send 2 at black sheepy and one at the player. I'm not sure if that's possible or how it would work.
dull sage
but isn't this a defenders choice game? when is this choice being made? i might need an example lol, im sure it's simple
prime flume
Not in the case of black sheepy, have you ever played a planeswalker in magic the gathering?
dull sage
ah ok i understand now
so like when you're choosing your attackers, you either choose to send to any sheepy or to the player, that makes sense
prime flume
I believe it would work just like that. I can target it for attack like I would a player.
dull sage
and if you choose sheepy, the defending player could still choose defenders (im assuming)
prime flume
I'm not sure if they can choose defenders. I think they would just fight.
dull sage
that makes sense. i think this could would benefit from some more text though. "it may be targeted in combat" could be interpreted in a few different ways, especially if you're new to card games
prime flume
The way I read it is you can choose for one of your monsters to fight it.
What I said here is what Mushbuh said was correct. If I take it literally then I assume 1 monster can be chosen to fight sheepy in combat.
eternal nebula
When you declare attackers, if you enemy has this card, you can force it to defend one of your attackers
prime flume
I think it would be good to specify only 1. Because when you target a player you can use as many as you have.
eternal nebula
Yea, that makes sense. Because the card will get exhausted from blocking so it can only block once anyway.
ember mango
black sheepy card 😮
soft vapor
can another stack be sacrificed to defend black sheepy?
for example, I'm targeting Black Sheepy with Pathetic Pandering, my opponent wants to defend with lil Chestnut so the stack won't be destroyed
can lil Chestnut (or a different stack/card) redirect?
eternal nebula
No
soft vapor
okay sweet, thank you!
eternal nebula
Ofc. Basically black sheepy just forces your opponent to choose to block with black sheepy when you declare your attackers, and to which stack
drowsy crystal
yea
thats the point of black sheepy, it can be targeted and you cant do anything about it
eternal nebula
prime flume
I think you could just say "if it is ready".
prime flume
I guess, but if ready is a state in the game's rules it goes without saying right? Would you do the same with exhausted? It's kind of like tapped or untapped in magic. I could say what is tapped.
Sorry to keep bringing it to magic but it's the closest comparison I can think of. See how this card doesn't say "tapped state". It's assumed that tapped is the state because that's what tapped refers to in the rules.
eternal nebula
yep. but this is a card game for casual players as well as magic experts
so if it says Ready, it should probably have quotes around it as a clue that it doesnt mean the same as just, ready
"If its ready? I guess its ready" etc
so i would rather say
If it's "Ready"
vs
If it's Ready
prime flume
I see what you mean. Basically just pointing out that the word has specific meaning.
eternal nebula
yepp. thats the same with the icons, and the little explanation
marmot and i played commanded earlier this year, and we had to keep googling phrases over and over and it was annoying
prime flume
That is a bit of an inevitability with these kinds of games, and I appreciate the effort to have less of it, but putting it in quotes doesn't solve that issue. It does draw attention to it which is good. It might be fun to have a little readied or exhausted symbol like for on play.
Even very casual board games have at least a few things you'll need to look up or be reminded of. I play an ass load of magic and other card games so it may be my bias, but things like that don't need over-explaining. When I introduced it to my friend who hasn't played much of any TCG she understood black sheepy with its original text quickly.
eternal nebula
thats good!
but i hope you understand im making descisions in mind with these three pillars
Quick to learn, and easy to teach
Quick to play, lets have a rematch
Interesting interactions arise from simple mechanics
so the less friction it is from reading a card to getting how it works, the better. Im not 100% against keywords but i do think its possible to have things make a lot more sense than other games. and thats something i really want to make happen
in this specific case, "Ready" is a bit confusing to read in that sentence, and me bringing it up was a bit of a tease
prime flume
haha I see what you mean. I can see it reducing the friction. I'll try and keep those pillars in mind when I comment. I wouldn't say this is a case of for or against keywords. It's just how much it needs explaining that this is a state the card is in. And I see your perspective.