#"Stretching" an axis

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thorn lintel
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Hello there. First of all: great software, I ditched spad for it and it does exacEtely what I need it to do!
But I am faced with the following problem. My Brunner FFB pedals have a "too long" toe brake travel in comparison to the axis.
Which means there is travel left on the physical control when the brakes in the Sim are already depressed 100%.
Is there a way to, like "inflate" the axis and it's values to match the physical control travel?

Kind regards!

coral orchid
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Yes, you can use the hubhop tool to generate RPN that will scale based on the range of your axis.

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you need to enable axis logging in settings and then move your pedals the full range of motion and look in the log window to see the min and max value. then put those in the Joystick output range fields for the tool. for the input range it doesn't look like we have brakes in the list, so I guess pick user and see if the range of 0 to 16383 is what the sim expects

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It's tricky though, looks like the brake events in the sim are non-linear. @thorny skiff have you ever dealt with this?

thorny skiff
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You need to feed a value from -16383 (no braking) to +16383 (full braking)

thorny skiff
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What are the min and max readings Mobiflight gets from your pedals?

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If your pedals are detected by Windows as a HID joystick, then the value range is typically 0 to 65535.

thorn lintel
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Thanks for the answer.
I thought about something like that but couldn't find any settings regarding axis.
Not much of a manual guy 😬

thorn lintel
thorn lintel
thorn lintel
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OK, i got an output from HubHop which i fed into mobiflight @ 4.0002 / 0 max 16383 min (>K:AXIS_RIGHT_BRAKE_SET) but axis travel is still shorter than physical pedal travel.
i tried several max event input ranges but to no avail...
Device output range is 0 to 65535, input range now -16383 to 16383

Update: i found this thread on the brunner forums with me being the last one to ceomment on that. Someone else pointed that out already...

https://forum.brunner-innovation.ch/forums/topic/toe-brakes-sticks-msfs/#post-3999

thorny skiff
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Try this inatead
@ 2.0 / 16383 - -16383 max 16383 min (>K:AXIS_RIGHT_BRAKE_SET)

thorn lintel
thorny skiff
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Post the code you tested please

thorn lintel
# thorny skiff Post the code you tested please

i already deleted it, but the line you posted earlier doesn´t work either. Same reaction. The in sim brake is fully depressed when i have like an inch or so travel left on the physical pedal...😕

coral orchid
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Have you made sure there isn't an in sim mapping for the pedals that is conflicting?

thorn lintel
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yup, they´re not assigned in sim

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they also show the same behaviour when using windows calibration

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i think i found the problem, but i have yet to wrap my head around it

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The pedal angle can be adjusted with allen key but i found out that doing so also changes and shifts the whole axis... I just unscrewed and moved them into a steeper angle and now i have the OPPOSITE problem...
No they full stop position lines up with the sim pedals but now the FIRST inch of travel is dead...

thorn lintel
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i still dont get why i cant align the event input range with the physical output.

thorn lintel
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i tried to bind the right brake to the throttle slider on the TCA sidestick. Which works perfectly, utilizing the full range. so i guess i am looking at a hardware limitation here. Pretty sad given what i paid for this unit.
Big thanks anyways guys!

thorny skiff