https://zigbook.net

[noble hill]

This is an awesome resource and looks like it took a crap-ton of work, incredible job! One suggestion, you might also post this over at #1024381264213594242 as well. This channel is for those seeking help, so it might get passed over by some users.

Also, hope you don't mind but I made a post in the Zig Reddit about this book, I feel like this is one of those projects that need as much exposure as possible, and the Zig reddit is full of beginners and people seeking help. If you want to make an official post, I can delete mine.

[charred verge]

@desert lark I see you wrote "Human-written, no AI"

Does that mean that absolutely no AI was used during the drafting and writing of the book?
Or does it mean that all AI generated content was reviewed before adding to the book?

I am asking because (at least on your twitter account) you seem to be a big AI fan https://x.com/utxok

[robust tapir]

More learning resources are always appreciated, but this project is not in a state where you should be announcing it as though it is complete.
There is a lot of information, but it jumps back and forth from advanced and basic topics. It starts with a graph of entry point logic. It feels like a grab bag of examples, which is annoying since you explicitly stated it wasn't going to be.

This is not at all a resource i would recommend to beginners, at least in its current state.
Given the haphazard structure of the book, and various other details, I am very sceptical of the claim no AI was involved.

[strange skiff]

no ai was used-> Uses deepwiki for creation of the site
The credibility of this statement is very very low

I agree with Vei. Its very all over the place, and I would not recommend it either

Also, @desert lark this is #1019652020308824145
This is not a forum to promote your website
There is #1024381264213594242 for that

[hearty robin]

I am very sceptical of the claim no AI was involved
me too: https://ziggit.dev/t/https-zigbook-net/13072/38
EDIT: thread seems to have been deleted, posted what my comment said here

[hearty robin]

fwiw the author is doubling down, deleting issues from the github repo and has added a "helpful" label for AI allegations

[robust shale]

classy.

[slate python]

funnily enough, the ziggit post has been deleted, on the other hand something i dont see people mention is how chapter 61 is just bullet points that repeat themselves the entire page.
The entire The Program That Knows Itself part is the most bizarre thing i ever seen as well, it felt like reading satire

should also mention how all of his github comments are botted with emojis by zig-vm and zigglang

[hearty robin]

quine is a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quine_(computing)

but yeah there's likely stuff in every chapter that is nonsense

[slate python]

i did not know about it, but its a very weird thing to put on a "wrap up" that just repeats itself from above and bellow points

[hearty robin]

yeah it's definitely not a culmination of anything in the previous parts of the book

that whole chapter is transparently AI generated in terms of content/style, i really hope a human isn't capable of writing something like "This isn’t recursion for its own sake—it’s confidence. Zig trusts itself because it has earned that trust through transparency and verification at every layer."

[slate python]

its also the first repository i have seen with this tab, tho to be fair i dont rly look at AI projects that often 😅

[slate python]

This not only feels AI generated but its also nonsense, not something you would find in a serious book...
just feels like positive reinforcement thrown in there for the sake of being there

[thin mural]

tbf, people parrot similar things to this sometimes in #zig , mostly newcomers to the lang trying to fit in by glazing it

[uneven mesa]

he disliked this guy's comment with his alts and then locked it so no one else could react to the messages. he is trying to astroturf it

[dim mirage]

The R word label is not serious. This is not a serious person.

[slate python]

"Polished writing" got me

[buoyant steeple]

Same 3 accounts (zigglang, zig-vm, zigbook) are liking all of his responses and disliking all the comments that have some degree of criticism 😂

[lunar tree]

What's crazy to me is that the quine is using {f} with std.fmt.fmtString instead of just... {s}. Also the lack of quality control is insane

[radiant plinth]

Z I G B O O K

MENTIONED

[dim mirage]

They also copy paste some of their comments, but as much as imagined drama is engaing, can we please let this thread die? It's a help forum after all 🙏

[karmic beacon]

Did anybody actually read the book. Im on it and I would say its almost impossible that AI wrote the chapters and I haven’t seen any mistakes so

I agree though and I think that he wrote the Intro with AI,.

[thin mural]

yea, the mistakes are very slight, like llms do. For ex: https://www.zigbook.net/chapters/51__mem-and-meta-utilities#caveats-alternatives-edge-cases
hallucinates a std.mem.terminated

[karmic beacon]

He probably didn’t want to admit it : /

Interesting I didn’t make it so far..

Maybe he did give it the library and documentation to build it out and treated it like a coding project...

So is the consens that its AI generated ?

Where is this Github discussion on ? @thin mural

[thin mural]

discussion of what?

[karmic beacon]

this

[cloud prairie]

> "Don't forget to join the new Zig community!"
> "Visit https://forums.zigbook.net for more information"
> The only post on the forum is written by him

Join who?

[karmic beacon]

@hearty robin Thanks for your research. I was working through the book and I didn’t notice...

[hexed ravine]

https://github.com/zigcc/awesome-zig/pull/148

[thin mural]

that "evidence of fraud" link makes no sense - theres no fraud. Guy is just gassing himself up and removing criticism, and the poster of that gist didnt like that