#What are the Pros and Cons of Zig over Hare and Vice Versa?

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languid sand
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Zig has a LLVM backend that makes it have the same performance as any LLVM based lang, zig comptime is a good replacement for macros, in zig we have from u0 to u65535 (tho note they are not working well yet in things that are bigger than 512 in some machines and/or 128 in most), Zig has integrated Vector builtin, and well, as said before, compile time execution and ease of just talking to any C lang library

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this is what I can think of in atm

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when I am not as sleep I will probably do a better write up

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but a stubborn one, I can see him not linking zig

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like not all zig

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zig still has shortcommings and things people do not like

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the most common and annoying for me to hear complaints from is people not liking the fact you cannot discard values

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Or the fact that there are no warnings, just errors

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Stuff like that

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in zig _ = is the discard this value indeed

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_ = someFunctionWithReturnThatIsNotAnErrorUnionToDiscard();

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and with errors is:
_ = try someFunctionWithReturn();
or
_ = someFunctionWithReturn() catch returnValueDefault;

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Also, zig uses async (With async/await keywords and resume/pause) for cooperative concurrency

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instead of some other method that X programmer will like

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It's simple in semantics I'd say

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And ofc, is small too

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already kinda done

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Zig is not dependent of LLVM

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but it's still kinda dependent of llvm lel

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ZIg itself has the concepts of backends since self hosted arrived

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x86 and wasm are the closest to be fone

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ofc, outside the LLVM one

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But there is also the C backend there

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which still needs some work too

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So in theory, you could compile zig with the capacity of just using native backends and no llvm

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tho it's not plan afaik to have the backends being optimizing anything

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except for llvm

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(or if anyone adds a new backend that also optimizes)

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Now, we depend on clang still for the translate-c @cImport feautres

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until arocc becomes the compiler for that

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no problem lel

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just that andre do be a name lel

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as in?

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like v8?

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because ofc there is the js runtime, but it uses JSCore

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ye

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yeah, not a bad project

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No idea, don't think so

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but if it's fun, all the lucks there

tropic otter
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i find this to be a funny point

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it's like saying that you like a book on the merit that it costs seven dollars

languid sand
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Good books under 7 dollars

tropic otter
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sure

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but those books are good books

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buying books purely because they're seven dollars or less without regard for quality of even what the book is about would be quite odd

languid sand
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Bought all books under 2 usd

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that I could get lmao

tropic otter
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not sure that's a good criterion for a good time but you do you rimu :P

languid sand
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a hare

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we offer iguanas

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also the answer here is more biased towards zig

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sooooo probably you can ask around in a hare centric place to get a hare centric one and compare

crisp bobcat
crisp bobcat
languid sand
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zig fmt and all that

languid sand
crisp bobcat
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oh. i rarely ever need to do it

hazy elbow
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Is zig fmt not auto enough?? thonk

crisp bobcat
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zigfmt does it after it passes which is where the error happens

hazy elbow
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Oh automatic discards? But that defeats the point by hiding which variables you unintentionally didn't use

languid sand
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most languages do not format if there are errors

crisp bobcat
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yeah, but the fact that a= 3 errors and doesn't format is annoying

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but that rarely occurs

hazy elbow
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I don't understand, if the syntax fails to parse, how could it format it properly

crisp bobcat
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no i understand that. i'm saying it's annoying that the auto format doesn't work as a byproduct of syntax errors