#Fix Buffed Rates

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naive tusk
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So, for those not in the know, these buffed rates are actually a huge nerf due to how pulls work.

Old Rates: 5% Character/0.5% Banner Character (10% Ratio)
New Rates: 7.5% Character/0.5% Banner Character (6.66% Ratio)

This not only makes it unnecessarily harder to get Banner Characters without Pity, defeating the whole point of buffing Banner Rates to begin with, but further discourages pulling without a guaranteed Pity, which takes months to get from 0 if, say, you know an Epic/Relic you may want is eventually going to be a thing and want to plan ahead, but there's also things going on in the current moment you want. It ends up making pulling for things you want for fun not ideal and as mentioned, discourages it due to nerfed ratios.

To keep the original 10% Ratio, fix the Character Rates to 0.75% Banner Character. I'm not asking for anything unreasonable like 1% or 1.5% but rather enough to keep the original feel of the rates intact and make the buffed rates feel like an actual buff.

static leaf
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I feel like most people do not care. The raw rate to receive a character is still the same and the change was made to get more characters who aren't the banner character to begin with so the luck system is easier to interact with. I understand the feeling of finally seeing a "doll" on your pull screen and hoping it's the rate up but this isn't truly an issue. What is an issue is that obtaining the banner card is noticeably harder thanks to these changes however at the end of the day I don't think many noticed. Because the raw rate % per pull remains the same.

naive tusk
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We have Paper Dolls for that. And vanilla Paper Dolls be EASY to come by

static leaf
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The average time it takes to max luck a single unit off just regular paper dolls (assuming gen/fes) is at least 3 weeks. On average 5.5.

naive tusk
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Or you could just, y'know, not care about Luck? Not like it's that important?

solar lynx
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Does luck even effect pulls?

static leaf
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Yes it does. At least according to the stream where luck was introduced. However luck is rather important to some people and very nice to have for your daily missions. The luck drops card is great and assuming we get more it'll be more important to have more luck

solar lynx
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Has there been any direct proof of it affecting pulls?

rigid hound
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my luck is garbage so I aim for the spark when pulling for units, if the banner char comes before that, great, if not, whatever

gentle sleet
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the change was made to make getting any specific gen or 5☆ card easier, as their overall rates dropped every time a new gen or 5☆ card was released into the gen pool.

dry blade
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Every time you pull, you have a 0.5% chance to get the focus character. This has not changed. The rate of getting off banner characters does not affect your rate of getting banner characters. This is in no way a nerf

naive tusk
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When a pull has a character, the game does a second calc for the Banner Character or an Off-Banner. God Crystals prior to the buffed rates simply ignored the first calc on the guaranteed slot(s). That calc just got harder due to the lower ratio. At that point, why advertise the rates as buffed if A, they're actually a nerf due to a worse ratio, or B, in best case it isn't doing anything at all?

covert nebula
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Where are you getting that GC pulls are affected by the different ratio? The banner rates are listed as 10% for the featured character on the GC character slot, same as always, and I, as a regular whale, have not noticed any significant change in the amount of GCs I need to get a given unit

worn hornet
# naive tusk So, for those not in the know, these buffed rates are actually a huge nerf due t...

The change of banner rates doesn’t affect the odds of receiving the featured unit at all.
Previous: 0.5%
Current: 0.5%
The only thing that changed is the increase in number of units and 5 star cards pulled overall.
Units: 5.0% -> 7.5%
5 star cards: 10.0% -> 15.0%
I think you are being tricked in thinking that the change in prayer rates results in a nerf, while it actually is a buff.