#Changes to duchy treasury bills

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cedar mango
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Probably I don't want to go into details why it's one of the weirdest and most harmful mechanics in the entire game, probably the administration know this better than me. I wonder why noone mentioned it yet. It should be removed entirely or maybe some drastic limits should be applied. Current limit in fact does not really adress the common sense of how much a duchy could take a loan and what for.

This time no work for designing, planning and developing, just a removal / tweaking, so maybe someone could take a look into this subject.

coral hollow
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Primary, cities were also able to create treasury bills. But the option has been disabled.

celest river
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I don't know why this behaviour about treasury bills. Perhaps Celsius Online fears Provinces could go in a deep bankroupt if they decide to delete the limits about it.

coral hollow
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And also she took those 30k

celest river
coral hollow
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Nope

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County has 20k

celest river
coral hollow
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Currentlly they hiding money in grants and treasury has minus

celest river
cedar mango
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generally generating debt is needed when you have unpredicted and urgent need for money (like war) and empty treasure, so limiting debt to the sum of already owned money is silly... please also have in mind that:

  • council's terms are 2 months
  • bills are repaid after 1 month
  • you can generate so much debt that the repayment will take months or even years
  • there is no information on who is using the bills to get refund and you cannot avoid repayment in any way

so there are three major problems:
a) bills are not the problem of the council that is issuing them, but the next and maybe many more upcoming councils
b) bills can be used for harassment, when the previous council is meanly creating them to keep the treasury empty and you cannot avoid repayment (you don't even know who is using the "fake" bills to put one in jail)
c) bills can be used as a weapon, when an enemy captures a castle, produces bills and even after loosing can successfuly ruin the duchy economy

in fact, there is no real need for debt more then, let's say, upkeep of an army for a month, and that's dozens of thousands, not hundreds... in my opinion the limit should be like, for example, 50% of weekly average income of county * 24 weeks (3 next councils will have to deal with 50% of income, so it's still a high limit!), there is hardly ever a real need to go beyond that