Beginners Chat

[ashen falcon]

and yeah that's p much what I do in terms of devotional activity

[meager knoll]

Well in that case, i backed brownies for Apollo lol

Baked*

[sick bison]

Hai, I am wondering where to start I've spent months researching and I can't find where to start

-# please ping

[ashen falcon]

so why exactly are you stuck with trying to start like what's stopping you from picking stuff up and just going for it?

also follow up question what exactly do you mean by research?

[sick bison]

I don't have a specific reason

[sick bison]

Research as in looking stuff up trying to find books ect

[ashen falcon]

okay but research on what specifically? /lh

like have you tried researching how to do spells or have you tried researching what witchcraft is etc

where is your current base for research and what do you all know rn

[sick bison]

Astral, gray, green

[sick bison]

Just what it is and what to do first

[ashen falcon]

gray?

[sick bison]

I know the basics for green

[ashen falcon]

okay then if you need help getting a concept of what to get started on:

• this is our beginner's guide https://witchinghour.info/guide
• this is our beginners channel #1114060085224808468
• this is our resources on protection which we as a server highly suggest that everybody know the basics of before they get into any specifics in magic because you need to know how to protect yourself before you start jumping into things #1114060224924491907
• this is our green channel #1114061394992705559
• this is our astral channel #1114763379773546546

and I don't know what you mean by gray but if you mean the middle ground between black magic and white magic we do not use those terms here because because they are rooted in racism

like I mentioned at the end of my last message we don't use those terms because they're rooted in racism

[sick bison]

Thamks

[sick bison]

Ohhhh

Sorry

[ashen falcon]

so you won't find "grey" magic here at all 🫡
if you need more information about that I would highly suggest reading through our beginners guide which explains it pretty well

[sick bison]

Okay

[agile urchin]

Hiii

[ashen falcon]

hello

[naive mesa]

Hello

[distant cape]

hello

[meager knoll]

Yellow

[rose estuary]

Hi! Does anyone have any experience with angel numbers? I checked the resources and there was a chart, but I would like to talk to someone and get their opinion on what I've been seeing lately.

[ashen falcon]

what kind of help are you hoping to get?

I can try to help!

[rose estuary]

So, I see a lot of 444, 555, and 111. Lately, I've been seeing 666, 777, and 888.

Oh, and 1212.

I don't know if that makes a lick of sense. lol

[ashen falcon]

okay so do you feel like these numbers mean something? and if so have you done readings on if they do?

I'm asking mainly because although I could tell you that yes these are absolutely numbers that you will see when God's reach out to you I can't make that kind of statements because I don't know your situation

a lot of times angel numbers are seen as messages from your spiritual team but it's not always something concrete and sometimes you just notice numbers

[rose estuary]

I haven't done a tarot reading for myself in a while, if that's what you mean.

The numbers started to appear more frequently when I started to get into spiritualism.

[ashen falcon]

I would start there then! it also doesn't have to be tarot it can be any form of divination but you kind of just want to ask if these numbers mean something for you spiritually

[rose estuary]

I'll give it a shot. Thank you!

[ashen falcon]

yup no problem!

[rose estuary]

I did a quick shuffle and asked my guides are trying to send me a sign.

[ashen falcon]

well reversed Devil is about like being self aware and breaking away from the things that held you in a space of poor habits

so if I were to interpret this I would personally say that your team are essentially saying "no it's not from us but it may just be that you're noticing them because you need those messages in your life! we aren't sending them though 🤷"

[rose estuary]

Well, it would make sense that I'm trying to look for anything as a sign of support.

[ashen falcon]

well yes but it's basically just saying that these aren't signs from your guides they're just you noticing numbers that you feel may help

[rose estuary]

Aside from what happened with my ex; I'm not really working (just side gigs) and I'm trying to go back to school for my BA. Life isn't rainbows right now.

[ashen falcon]

like not everything has to be a sign from something sometimes you just notice things and they become helpful for you

[rose estuary]

Should I try to ask for something specific as a sign, or leave it alone?

[ashen falcon]

I mean if what you want is a sign from your guides then sure

but if what you're wanting is answers for what these numbers mean I would suggest just looking into those and seeing if they fit your situation

if they don't, then they may not mean anything and you may just be noticing numbers for the sake of noticing numbers, which is fine it happens.

but ultimately if what you want is specific signs or something like that then yeah I would suggest asking for them but that's up to you

[rose estuary]

I appreciate your advice.

[meager knoll]

I've always felt "connected" to Aphrodite. I would wish Apollon and Artemis goodnight every day and then accidentally say Aphrodite's name. And back when I used to worship her or whatever I felt a lot more self love/confident than I do now. She's also appeared in my dream once, along with Poseidon & Apollon. Help??

[normal ginkgo]

It's not a bad thing to still feel connected with deity you no longer worship. Just like even after a friendship ends you may still think of the person fondly even if it's just in memory. You also don't have to worship in order to honor them. Like saying hello to someone walking by they may give you a smile and wave back- saying her name in passing and she may bless yours back, that's also an okay relationship to have with a deity

[meager knoll]

Cool! Thanks!

[shrewd island]

guys advice to connect with a deity more i want to get closer to lord odin but idk how

so far i’ve given offerings and yap too much but idk

[ashen falcon]

have you done like readings or asked for like what he would like from your working relationship?

[shrewd island]

i did some divination stuff with him but like part of me is still very much « ? Is this Really him im talking to »
also my brain keep comparing him to my previous experiences with the hellenic pantheon and its so unhelpful smh

[shrewd island]

I HAVEN’T. why havent i thought of this 😭 ty
im just a bit on the fence with using divination because im not confident in my own skill

[ashen falcon]

so you could use something that has more direct sorts of answers if you struggle with tarot!

maybe like yes/no answers and a pendulum

[shrewd island]

i use rune divination (lenormand in the past) tarot very complicated for me

unsure how to yes no with runes but will do more research

thankie

[rose estuary]

I made some sigils yesterday. 🙂

They're the destructible kind so I lit them on fire after I sat with them.

[ashen falcon]

they looks nice!

[weak flax]

hey y'all! i am pretty much a beginner but I'm in a bit of a pickle.

I've been getting into tarot and I'm very intuitive. I've mostly worshipped God, angels, saints, etc. However, recently I have been getting a lot of signs of Hecate and Lilith (I am currently going through a period of a lot of reflection and inner work)

I am a bit scared to go into working/worshipping with them because of whom I grew up worshipping, but I am not opposed to it. I like to think I'm more spiritual than religious.

Just looking for advice on how to go forward with this. Right now I am doing a lot of research on Hecate since I know very little, or only the most known things about her.

Years back i did a lot of research on protecting myself and vetting, etc. I remember a lot of it and put it into practice with my catholic/folk catholic beliefs. So honestly, just wanting to get advice and wanting to know if its okay to do this. (Again, I am new to this, being called upon and such) 👉🏽 👈🏽

[ashen falcon]

Hi are you jewish? im asking because lilith is not open to people who arent jewish and if you are not then its not gonna be her reaching out

[weak flax]

no i am not jewish. most of the signs are from hecate

[ashen falcon]

Yeah, so then any signs that you're attributing to lilith are probably not lilith but someone else or even just also hekate (they get lumped in together lot)

[weak flax]

ahhh okay!

[ashen falcon]

Um, I'm also a little bit confused on what exactly you're asking about?

Are you worried that you're not allowed to worship other gods because you work with and worship, god and angels?

/did so in the past?

[weak flax]

yes

im mostly just conflicted so i was looking for advice

[ashen falcon]

Can I ask why you would think that? i'm trying to be genuine like. What makes you think you can't worship those gods alongside G-d?

The reason I'm asking is that way I can get a better understanding of how to help you Advice wise

[weak flax]

mm most of my life ive been told that God is the only higher power. though later in my life, ive gotten to see that is not entirely true. its mostly confusion and emotional conflict on can i worship God while also working with Hekate

sorry, this feeling is very new so im a bit ashamed i sound ignorant

[ashen falcon]

Do you feel like you are open to having 2 kinds of gods in that way? Having both being divine beings in your life?

no you're totally okay!

[weak flax]

i am open to it

[ashen falcon]

This kind of stuff is very hard to unlearn. Especially if you're coming from a place of confusion please dont feel bad

Then I would say that so long as you are okay.With handling that kind of worship in both aspects of these gods, you can!

Religion in this way is a personal kind of thing so who you decide to bring into your practice entirely depends on you as a person.So long as you're not going for closed religions (hekate is open)

I'm recently somebody that converted to Judaism, meaning that I worship God in the Jewish way and deal w jewish entities.

however im still also pagan leaning and do still worship non-jewish beings. this doesn't make me any less Jewish, it just makes me jewish.In a different way

[weak flax]

I'm hispanic and my family is spiritual with a strong devotion of God. Though I believe in La Santa Muerte and santeria due to personal experiences within my family, so my practice so far is devotion of God, angels, saints with practices of santeria.

so i am open minded, i was just surprised by being called/seeing signs of hecate. and i do want to work with her due to where i am right now. i wanted a reassuring push because i am aware there are many beings/energies/etc. out there

i feel more reassured now, are there any links/info on hecate i can go to?

[ashen falcon]

yup yup #1114061252247945320 will have all the resources we have on her

[rose estuary]

Is practicing too much a thing?

Like say I practice my spellwork work everyday (candle spells, burning manifestations, sigils, etc).

I know when I first started candle spells last summer, it drained me so much that I had to take a nap afterwards.

Which I found odd because I didn't realize it could do that. I often wonder if it was just my mental state at the time (I was going through some stuff).

[woven cloud]

it depends on you, honestly. if you’re not properly grounded and nourished before a spell you definitely can feel tired or peckish afterwards. i believe that energy can be transactional so you’re giving energy in order to do your spells

i definitely do not recommend doing multiple spells back to back without any sort of break, especially beginners.

and doing too much spell work can cause burnout as well

[rose estuary]

I don't feel exhausted now but maybe it's because I've had practice.

[round kindle]

Question: I want to reach out to my ancestors and begin learning hoodoo but personally, I don't think my ancestors would like me very much since I'm queer and about to marry a woman. I'm just assuming that most people from back in the day were homophobic but idk. What do yall think? Would they really be interested in helping me?

[ashen falcon]

as a queer person that has frequent contact with their ancestors: queer people have existed for all of time. it is not at all a new concept and there are a lot of historical instances of queer joy and happiness in various places.

To assume that all elders are homophobic, then assumes that none of them could have been queer. You can also set boundaries with your ancestors, allowing those that do accept you into your practice.

In my experience ancestors (blood related or not) will want whats best for you and your spiritual happiness, and if they dont you dont need them!

Call on your queer ancestors if you find that your blood ones arent accepting. if you need the hoodoo aspect, i dont doubt that queer hoodoo folks have existed that you can call upon

[round kindle]

Thanks I hadn't even considered that. I just assumed that all my ancestors were straight lol

[ashen falcon]

and thats super fair! a lot of people talk about queerness like a brand new thing 😭 but its understandable

[round kindle]

Hey are there any cleansing tools that utilize smoke thats not sage or palo santo or anything from a closed practice? I know there are other ways to cleanse but I really do prefer smoke. Sorry if this is a silly question

[ashen falcon]

incense generally

you can use any flavor you like thats not closed

you can also use just straight up paper if you want

and legit any non-toxic herb thats not closed. Lavender, rosemary, thyme, basil, any other species of sage, etc

[round kindle]

Thanks!

So blue sage is appropriate?

[ashen falcon]

blue sage/pitcher sage is fine yes

[sharp cliff]

I normally use my vanilla or green tea incense for cleansing
occasionally my lavender one

[empty monolith]

I’m wanting to do a spiritual cleansing but I don’t have access to any herbs or crystals does anyone have any suggestions on what I could do instead?

[woven cloud]

a nice long, everything shower /srs
imagine all that spiritual gunk going down the drain. then you can use your shampoo scents (if any) as a boost. while you’re washing up say your intentions, and you can even meditate actively or passively for a few moments as the water cleanses you

[analog kite]

Do u have any bells or chimes ? That can help as well

[woven cloud]

yup, add some music or sounds to the mix. dim the lights. make it a whole ritual

[empty monolith]

Thank you so much!

[rich marlin]

I keep mixing up my sages
Which are closed practice and which are not? Is it just white sage?

(I tend to steer away from using sage in general, but id like to know anyway)

[pale loom]

It's just white sage that's closed

Technically also Dragon's blood sage, but that's because it's just white sage coated in dragons blood resin

[rich marlin]

ty

[jade canyon]

is it okay to start with protection spells? like drawing a protection rune outside my door and sprinkle black salt there to keep bad energy away? or do the protection spell where you write your name in a paper and put olive oil and salt in a circle around it and then burn the paper?

or what kind of spells would you recommend for a beginner

[long wedge]

those things you mentioned sound pretty simple to start with! also sigils and spell jars are very beginner friendly imo

if youd like more guidance we have a beginners guide to witchcraft and some spells classes if thats what you wanna look into

lemme go find the links

[long wedge]

beginners guide: #1114060085224808468 message , spell class: #1114061294820135032 message , some protection stuff since you seem interested: #1114060085224808468 message , #1114060224924491907 message

you can find more beginners resources in https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114060085224808468 and spellwork resources in https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114061294820135032

good luck, ask again if anything comes up !

[jade canyon]

thank you so much lovely !! 💗

[long wedge]

np!

[haughty hollow]

hello! I did not know where to ask this: I do not have anointing oil but I do have olive oil n herbs. I have a spell i need to do tomorrow so I cannot make anointing oil, is it okay if I rub the oil on the candle and dress it w herbs still?

[ashen falcon]

can I ask what the point of the anointing oil is in your spell?

because if I'm being completely honest anointing oil is pretty much just oil and herbs that are made together with intention. so as long as you are doing that and the oil correspondence matches your intention I don't see why that would be an issue!

[haughty hollow]

mostly banishment and protection

[manic hearth]

Hi everyone! I've just joined :)) - I'm currently jumping around and reading all the resources to get my bearings haha

Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules by chatting on here...

[ashen falcon]

nope youre okay to do so

[manic hearth]

Yippee!!

[ashen falcon]

if thats the case then i would try seeing what properties olive oil has and work from there! iirc it is banishing and protective but i might be wrong! like i mentioned any oil can be anionting if thats the intention you have for it!

[manic hearth]

omg you're like me! - i didn't have any anoiting oil for my protection spell either lol. I found making a petition super helpful! (just a recommendation - I'm super new so totally okay to ignore me haha)

[ashen falcon]

petitions are helpful if you work with gods but they are not really a 1 to 1 replacement for anointing oils since they are really different in terms of use

[haughty hollow]

thank u! I genuinely appreciate this since I am not new but moving from beginner to moderate

[ashen falcon]

if you want i can send my lesson on spell oil making in which i cover some solid basics on oil correspondences and which oils are safe for which tasks!

but of course! im glad i could help out

[haughty hollow]

yes please! i took a break from my craft due to mental health reasons n I'm ready to step back in so any information or even pointing me in the right direction is greatly appreciated!

[ashen falcon]

of course! let me grab that doc for you

[haughty hollow]

I will look into petitions for future use!

[ashen falcon]

Spell Oil doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Ms6kD_ZmvAwz3uGicJlmZxbUxkNEx2ZMSnUAxNmUjA/edit?usp=drive_link
carrier oils: #1114060280004087869 message
oils: #1114060280004087869 message

[haughty hollow]

I do have another question, if I do a banishment/protection spell tonight (i bought a black candle for this reason), should I hold off on making a protection spell jar/ward for a bit?

[ashen falcon]

i tend to follow banishment immediately with a ward

this is bc if your previous wards were broken into or you didnt have any to being with, you need new ones to make yourself safe, but you gotta get rid of the not great stuff first, so banishment then ward/protections

if you can handle that much spell work in a day go for it

[haughty hollow]

okay thank you!

[wraith sundial]

hey, so i want to kind of start practicing but i have no idea where to start because im just kind of so bombarded with lots of information. any suggestion of where to start?

[pale loom]

I would highly recommend looking through our #1114060085224808468 ! We have a some great jumping off points and vasic information in there

[wraith sundial]

ok thank you so much : )

[rose estuary]

Good morning!

It's been a minute since I've been on here.

[ashen falcon]

hi hello

[rose estuary]

I've been working on my sigils, and I would like to learn about the other types. Does anyone have a book they would recommend?

[ashen falcon]

not a book but we do have #1114763288568418304

[rose estuary]

Anything on manifesting?

[rose estuary]

Mainly, I would like to talk to more people about to get their take.

[ashen falcon]

we do also have a channel on manifesting but what specifically are you looking for

[rose estuary]

I've been practicing for a while and one manifestation has come true. I just want to make sure that I understand what I'm doing, because sometimes it feels like I'm brainwashing myself or giving myself false hope.

[rose estuary]

Basically, that.

[ashen falcon]

if you can explain can i ask why do you feel like that?

[rose estuary]

The best way I can explain it is when someone questions their own religion. I feel like the things that I'm asking for (better job, love, better mental health, etc) are too out of my reach, and/or no one is listening to me.

It could also be self-doubt, like I feel like I don't deserve those things.

[ashen falcon]

well that could be something that you need to unpack with someone with a lot more knowledge about the topic (therapist, councilor)

but i will say that everyone deserves those things, no one is above basic needs and that includes you

if you are manifesting, why is it impossible to think that you are drawing that in yourself over asking other beings to bring it to you?

feeling loved, having a decent job, having solid mental health arent things that are outlandish and otherworldly to want and have.

and as a living human being you deserve that.

i think some of these more underlying issues might be something worth unpacking with a therapist as i said as it seems these are more than just spiritual self doubt

[rose estuary]

You're probably right. I'll ask my new therapist about it.

[ashen falcon]

i think that if your having results and you are working both spiritually (through manifesting) and mundanely to Achieve your wants,, getting results isnt a bad thing and you arent "being brainwashed" into those results /gen

wishing the best of luck to you /gen

[meager knoll]

So evertime I've thought about/worshipped/thought about worshipping Lady Aphrodite, I'm always getting a confidence boost. Ususally I hate myself to the core but lately I've been feeling like "oh hello there, gorgeous" when I look into a mirror (though that can also happen because I recently got a haircut, but it also did happen a few months prior.) My confidence/self love was always linked to Aphrodite and I've felt uh, "connected" to her in the sense people always tell me I'm the embodiment of love. Coincidence?

Ah, and speaking of.. I've kind of uh, "fallen out" with my diety worship practice. I'd love to start again, but the "spark" isn't there. I don't know how to explain, it feels like the world is completely devoid of higher beings right when I feel the most in need of them. Mental health has been terrible but just when I need some type of reassurance, it feels like I'm calling out to a sky of nothingness. Does anyone have some insight to this? I feel very lost.

do ping if you do have a response, otherwise I wouldn't see it!

[ashen falcon]

if you want to worship Aphrodite you definitely can.

I think that feeling confident and then relating that mindset to Aphrodite is pretty common, if you genuinely feel like there is a connection between you and her then I would say go for it.

when it comes to the second part of your ask, it's very important to note that things like depression and mental health issues definitely can cloud your judgment and make it so that way you feel alone and lonely even when you're not.
and this includes things like ignoring signs that are shown to you in favor of putting yourself and your beliefs down.

unfortunately this isn't something that we as a server can really help with because this seems to be rooted in more of a mental health aspect and it should be handled with care through somebody that is qualified to do so.

the advice that I could give on that last part is God's don't just disappear and they don't just stop answering we just might not be in a space to take in their messages due to how we feel.

religion in its entirety shouldn't be something that you push all of your needs and hopes into, nothing should be. so it may be best to deal with the underlying issues that you have around your MH.

[meager knoll]

Thank you, I'll keep that in mind! 🩷

[robust prairie]

Question: Can you be a devotee but also worship other dieties?? Thought about this randomly last night but was too lazy and feel asleep on it lol

[long wedge]

i would say yes, having a main deity and being clear about it while also worshipping some other deities is pretty common

if you dont feel sure about it you can always communicate it with your deity but i feel like as long as you keep worshipping your main deity with the same faith then your "devotee" title shouldnt be harmed by sth like that

[robust prairie]

Question #2 🤯 : Can you make a spell jar without a particular ingredient, like in a situation where it isnt accessible or because you have allergies?

[ashen falcon]

so it kind of depends on why that thing is being used and whether or not you have the ability to substitute it!

[robust prairie]

Kk thanks!!! :3

[ashen falcon]

mainly because most aspects of a spell jar have particular uses and if you know the particular use you can more than likely substitute it!

ofc!

[robust prairie]

Horsie photo in return

[ashen falcon]

tyvm 🙏

[distant cape]

NAYYYYYY (horse sound)

[robust prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-horse-criminal-offensive-side-eye-gif-3843070909774483602

Horse of whatever the hell its doing 💯💯

[robust prairie]

question #3 (i should start a streak atp): are there any ways to cleanse an area when someone doesnt have access to supplies or are 'closeted'(couldnt find a better word sorry!!)

[pale loom]

There's tons of options! The ones best suited for closet witches tend to be sound cleansing (often via music or clapping) or air freshener!
However, other choices for closet witches may include: physical tidying of the space or object, lighting a white candle if that's an option, and energy cleansing (though this option may be a little tricky depending on the individuals experience and skillset)

[robust prairie]

This is extremely helpful tysm 😭😭 ive been looking for ways for so long but there has never been concrete answers where ive looked for some reason, thank yewww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Horsie photo in return

[pale loom]

No problem!

Horsie!

[robust prairie]

Paladin??? CRK MENTIONED 💯💯💯🗣️🗣️

[pale loom]

Crk?

[robust prairie]

Cookie run kingdom 💯

https://tenor.com/view/eye-of-rah-pure-vanilla-cookie-cookie-run-cookie-run-kingdom-crk-gif-18088234900022280716

[pale loom]

Ahh we've never played 😅 Our roommate does, though
We picked this cause it's our main dnd class and also cause Pidge is our host and he's used to being called Paladin

Also cause it's cool af lol

[robust prairie]

Dungeons nd dragons?

I FROTH AT THE MOUTH FOR CRK

Im like a baby seeing an ipad for the first time when it comes to it

[pale loom]

Yep!

[robust prairie]

Eating u alive as th e pterodactyl skeleton that eats cool people on April 22nd watch out

[pale loom]

What's April 22nd?

[robust prairie]

The day the evil pterodactyl skeleton that eats cool people mass eats rlly cool people

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-flames-burning-fire-gif-5342919

[pale loom]

Ah I see
Yeah I've been playing dnd for a while now! You can see my latest character sheet in #🌙ttrpg (I have 3 other versions of the same one lol)

[shrewd island]

guys i’m thinking of getting into celtic paganism right now so anyone have sources for the very very beginner…links or something

context: i felt called to it months ago but wasn’t a good time back then + very hard to get into so i dipped to norse paganism but right now i still feel that Urge so i want to just read some stuff over

[ashen falcon]

#1114061152515797072

[gusty plume]

Hi! I'm a beginner witch and i was wondering if you should do banishing and cleansing spells before baneful magic? And if you shouldn't then how long do i have to wait after doing banishing and cleansing spells before i can do baneful magic? xx

[waxen skiff]

waves

[ashen falcon]

hiya!

[sharp pike]

Hi! I’ve got a question on protections. Would adding salt and vinegar to my cleaning stuff and then do my normal scrubbing work?

Besides the normal cleany stuff

It’s already something I do, just wondering if it’d work for this

[ashen falcon]

I would just be very careful about adding things like vinegar to cleaning supplies because sometimes the chemicals will react and create toxic gases that you shouldn't be inhaling

[sharp pike]

Got it!

And absolutely, even mixing cleaning supplies together can go wrong😔

[ashen falcon]

one thing that you could possibly do is add things like Moon water or even herbs to things like your water to help make it more cleansing!

my ma adds holy water and a tea bag of herbs (sometimes) to the water/stuff we use to clean and it's perfectly fine to mix

[sharp pike]

Ooh that’s a good idea, I’ve got orange oil, and an orange spice tea I could use.

Plus it’d smell like orange and pine 😋

[tranquil wagon]

hiii I’m really new to witchcraft and stuff and I was wondering if anyone knew how to do or make a good protection spell because yk I wanna be protected an stufff

[ashen falcon]

hi can you please remove the font from your name to make it accessible for users with screen readers!

[tranquil wagon]

Oh I’m sorry about that

There!

[ashen falcon]

ty!

[ashen falcon]

as for protection we have a whole channel #1114060224924491907

[tranquil wagon]

Oh thank youuuuu

[ashen falcon]

[spare cove]

Hiii wow this chats so dead 😭

Is anybody alive

[woven cloud]

there’s definitely people around!

[storm river]

hello

[ashen falcon]

hi

[copper wadi]

hiya!

[outer wigeon]

Hiiyyass

[ashen falcon]

hihi!

[jaunty marlin]

Hi! I decided to take this sort of thing more seriously yesterday, but I've kind of wanted to practice for years. I've already started practicing, but I want to get some guidance.

What're some ways I can use the written word in my craft? The thing I want to worship really likes that. :3

[copper wadi]

poetry, short stories, journaling!

[sweet wren]

how do i start

i want to try money attraction spells and protection

dont know how

[distant cape]

welcome!! happy to help where we can! We have a beginner witch guide you can peek through here: https://witchinghour.info/guide

[abstract night]

yo do y’all have any tips for improving intuition?

[tropic gust]

Okay @ashen falcon I'm messaging in here so it doesn't get lost in the main chat also this is a cleaner space for discussion prolly.
I looked into it and I figured out what I want my guiding principles and style to be. Luciferian x Greek x Norse for the religious stuff for like rituals and ceremonies and prayer type shit
Then have stoicism x hermeticism x zen to be my like philosophy/lifestyle/guidance stuff for journaling and meditation and daily living
And now I just have to figure out what I want my craft to be. Ik eclectic but that's it lol
Feels pretty solid though and it blends/layers well

But now I'll know what to study specifically lol

[ashen falcon]

neat! and it's solid if it's what you feel works for you (and isn't appropriating which iirc none of these are (really))

[tropic gust]

Frfr I was trying to be careful with what I chose and if it fit my lifestyle and stuff which it does

[ashen falcon]

I'm glad you've at least figured out a start!

[tropic gust]

Same!

Oh I was wondering what to avoid doing so that I won't accidentally appropriate anything

[long wedge]

the way to avoid appropriation is to do proper objective research before doing sth, learn where it comes from, who normally practices, different views and methods etc

i clarify "objective" bc soemtimes when we search for information we really want to find we end up ignoring clues that could, for example in this case, tell you that the roots of what you want to practice are in a closed practice/culture

[ashen falcon]

there isn't an over arching list but mainly: if it's not something your familiar with research.

Some folks will also state that open religions are closed (this is usually rooted in Nazism and white supremacy)

[tropic gust]

True, okay yeah Im planning on doing as much research as I can before I start practicing anything

I want to make sure I'm doing things right and know what I'm talking about or doing or how I'm viewing things

[waxen skiff]

what is the best method of learning the tarot card meanings? i’m currently doing as follows

• writing the name, upside meaning, downside meaning, and number in a book
• drawing the card (cause i don’t have a deck lol)

is there anything else i should do to familiarize myself with tarot? what resources would you all recommend?

[desert kernel]

How I learned it is by symbolism and the 4 elements

But I mostly just read the pictures

[desert kernel]

Everyone has their own way of reading tarot cards

[waxen skiff]

ahhh alright tysm

[pale loom]

I learned by practicing- pulling cards, checking the meanings, and then interpreting
I also recommend people learn a couple of keywords to associate with each card (like 8 of pentacles and learning or practice). Oh also to make life easier on yourself by starting with just upright meanings. 78 cards is already a lot, but adding reversals literally doubles that which can make your progress feel slower

[waxen skiff]

that does sound a lot easier lol ty!

[pale loom]

No prob!

I did shit the hard way and then layer realized there was an easier way so I am always happy to lend a hand

[tropic gust]

When I first got into doing tarot I drew cards then looked up the meanings then tried to apply it to my life like think of what it could be referring to or warning me of or whatever. But then I found a guide (one of my passed fam) and now when I do tarot I ask them things. Even before that though, they always came true if there was a message I was looking for but yeah it takes a bit of practice. I am by no means an expert I still look up the meanings but I've gotten smoother at it

I need to get back into it tbh it's been a hot minute

[tropic gust]

How do I build a practice? There's a lot of aspects of what I want to do but idrk where to start 😭 I think I might be trying to jump in too fast or figure out too much at once, which I have a tendency to do w things.

[pale loom]

Yeah definitely start small- a couple things at a time. What you start with is up to you, but a great first step might be looking into what kind(s) of magic there are and what you're interested in trying so that you can focus your research a little more easily

We have a doc on the types in #1114060085224808468

[tropic gust]

Thank you i think I should definitely just start w the foundations and basic witch knowledge and go from there w my specific interests and goals

[pale loom]

Precisely!

[tropic gust]

Yeah thinking Abt everything at once is confusing and overwhelming so I just needa do baby steps lol

[pale loom]

Yep! You have time. So just go one step at a time- it's a marathon not a sprint so pace yourself

[tropic gust]

Okay thank you 🙂

[sharp pike]

So this might be a bit of a dumb question, but when researching different sources and plantain comes up uhhhh which one is usually meant?

[normal ginkgo]

What context?

[sharp pike]

I was going through different correspondence lists for a different thing and kept seeing “plantain”

I can send a photo of the ones I’m thinking of

If that helps

[ashen falcon]

if the list also contains "banana" it would mean the bitter one. I'd also suggest looking at who is the author and where they are from

plantain can also be used for banana in some countries so it's a matter of just figuring out which the person would be using.

this is where cross referencing for banana and non-banana plantian comes into play

[sharp pike]

Okay, thanks! Just to be sure by the bitter one you mean this one?

I really hope there’s not a third plantain to consider😭

[ashen falcon]

so I'm really sorry but 😭

[normal ginkgo]

😭

Top 10 anime betrayals

[sharp pike]

[ashen falcon]

this is the bitter plantain I mean

it's basically like a bitter more starchy banana

which is why people use the same term for them as bananas

[sharp pike]

Wait that was the other one I was thinking of!!

[ashen falcon]

there's more

so when it comes to which one they're talking about generally it's going to depend on a lot of different factors

one who's writing the piece

two if they're using taxonomical names that's going to be a little bit easier

and three if there's any context to the lists that you were reading through

generally though I would suggest specifically looking into the correspondences associated with their taxonomical names as that might be a little bit easier to understand?

[sharp pike]

I’m not gonna escape the plantain, they’re multiplying

[sharp pike]

I’m gonna do that😭

[tropic gust]

So I've figured out my core practice. Luciferianism, hermeticism, and then working w divination/psychic, deities, and elements.
Now I just need to study these things

[twilit thicket]

Hi everyone. How are you and what type of Witches you are?

I'm new so I'm still figuring things out, but I find the peace in nature and solitude and love reading Lenormand cards!

[ashen falcon]

So you decide what type of witch you are!

these are terms that you pick for yourself based on what you want to focus your craft in

[twilit thicket]

Oh, okay~
I really want to dvelve a bit into Greek Mythology, oracle readings and manifestation

[ashen falcon]

nice! we have info on pretty much all of that (except oracle readings since those are based on card deck and hard to make a single resource that covers them all)

[twilit thicket]

I'll make sure to check them out!
I'm not new to oracle readings, though!

[twilit thicket]

What are your fields of practice? @ashen falcon

[ashen falcon]

im a ||death|| witch but I also specialize in divination and spell work. im also jewish and pagan

[twilit thicket]

Oh..? I never heard of this before!! Is it related to ||necromancy|| or..?
Sorry if it's a stupid question!

[ashen falcon]

some people believe they are the same thing!

its basically spirit work and working closely with the ||dead||

[twilit thicket]

I understand! Can Iit be scary?

[ashen falcon]

I would say that it's less scary and more emotionally draining, because you're dealing with people and things that have passed and you have to deal with the concept of grief, a lot and understanding of that grief

[twilit thicket]

That makes sense.
So it's something in layman's terms like a TV show "The Ghost Whisperer"?🤔

[ashen falcon]

hm sorta? i cant see them like she does

[twilit thicket]

Yeah, of course!! But the rest I guess is there

For how long do you practice this type of witchcraft?

[ashen falcon]

||death|| magic specifically qbout 5 years
magic as a whole about 14

[pale loom]

Honestly, I think the show that depicted the experience the best (as far as I've seen) is a show called Medium

Ep 1 of Ghost whisperer always makes me cry tho

[twilit thicket]

Amazing!!

[robust prairie]

Since there is a specific way to pray (in Hellenism atleast, unsure for others), and i live in a strictly christian household, would it be ok if i prayed in the general prayer position instead (🙏) ? Im unsure if its disrespectful but its my only option.

[woven cloud]

in hellenism there’s not really a specific way to pray. you can pray however is comfortable for you, especially for safety reasons

i don’t actually pray and i’m hellenist

[robust prairie]

Ohh, i guess i was just misinformed! Thank you!

[hallow harbor]

I mean some people have a funky little structure and try to stick to formal prayers? I don’t, sometimes I do but what I do is palms up for Olympians, facing down for cthonics and together for anything else and usually in formal prayer I’ll say 3 of their epithets, leave an offering and that’s like it

Everything else I write in a little notepad lmao

[long wedge]

hi! this would go on #599790755208232960

[pliant ledge]

Hui

[tropic gust]

@ashen falcon HIII!!! I'm back lol ik I haven't been active lately cuz life is lifeing and I been busy. But I was looking into philosophy lifestyles and perspectives just out of curiosity, and remembered you're an animist. I know the basics of what it is, but I was wondering if you could tell me more Abt what that looks like on a daily basis or in practice or anything

Also sorry to hear you're Doritoless. That is so sad. My condolences XD

[ashen falcon]

So I don't particularly ascribe to any one core belief of animism.

There are a lot of different ways that you could go about utilizing animism

NO HES ALIVE

staff just keeps stealing him from me

[tropic gust]

OH I THOUGHT U MEANT THE CHIPS

LMAOOO

[ashen falcon]

OH 😭

dorito is my dog 😭 🫶

[tropic gust]

Ohhh omg that's an adorable name

[ashen falcon]

But like I was saying, there are a few different beliefs that revolve around animism from celtic animism to indigenous practices in the us

The way I personally view my animism, is that everything that we interact with has the capacity to have a soul.
And what that soul looks like will depend on the thing that you're interacting with. so, for example, my tools, I believe, have some sort of soul that they gain through continued use. (ie my tarot cards have personalities)

And this then extends itself towards other things like plants and animals and places where everything that you interact with has the potential to have spiritual sentience, and can interact with you on a spiritual basis based on that sentience

[tropic gust]

So like based on how you interact with an item or a place or smth in nature or an animal, it will react back or it's soul and sentience will be shaped by that? Like an aura or??

Wdym by personalities of the cards, like based on the card itself and what it represents or like?

[ashen falcon]

I mean, like for some of the cards that I own.If I asked them specific questions, they will answer me in a very ":/ bitch what?" tone

[tropic gust]

LMFAO okay that sounds fun ngl
Ig it's easier when ur we'll versed in tarot, I do it occasionally but haven't rly gotten the deeper connection with the cards. I usually use it to communicate with like passed relatives or a guide. I suppose I could use them more often for every day stuff but I keep forgetting lolll

[ashen falcon]

also for this kinda! i dont particularly see or interact with auras

But what I mean is like for places that have a lot of history to them, a lot of people say that the energy there feels different. like walking into an eighteenth century house, you're going to have a very different feel from something that was built like 2 years ago. and this is because, for some people, the concept of where you live holding onto your energy, creates a space that reflects that energy so from the 18th century, that's nearly a 150 years ago at this point. And with that you've had a 150 years of people living in that home and gathering energy. So the area feels different to something built newer

[tropic gust]

The cards do come true tho if I ask about future stuff so that's wild, and I love it, and I use it as a general guide for personal stuff when i ask the person, then I do the Celtic cross layout for the month what i should focus on for the month and how shit can turn out

[ashen falcon]

And this would be where that sentience comes into play, because that house could have soul of its own creating a house spirit through the concept of ut being around for so long

[tropic gust]

This I can understand. I'm very heavily receptive to vibes and energy and liminality and aesthetics. Cuz Ive got aesthetic/associative synesthesia
So basically I would just want to tune in to the energy of a place where I go, if possible? Or?
Is there a practice you have for it or?

[ashen falcon]

So again, this is all very much just how I personally view animism.
What i'm basically saying is that in my belief, structure, things can gain soul and sentience over time and through continued use.

You could definitely tune in to Energy. Where you go I would just highly suggest that if you're going to start looking into energy work that you be very mindful of how to protect your own energy beforehand because being constantly bombarded with energy from everywhere, through everything can be very overwhelming

[tropic gust]

My gret great aunt and uncle actually live on a farm that's been around since the 1800s. Antique furniture, original or slightly updated plumbing and stuff obviously, etc. it's a whole vibe.

Okay yeah I understand that, having a lot come at you at once can be a lot, like when ur brain is trying to focus on one thing but there's like 3-5 sounds coming thru all overlapping, or sum like that

[tropic gust]

@ashen falcon
I THINK I GOT ITTT

1. This blanket wants to comfort me and keep me warm

2. This notebook is here to provide it's service, and it feels pain when I rip a page out because not only am I physically hurting it but also saying it's service didn't serve me the right way or maybe it's sad bc I wasn't sure of it's page so I started over or smth

3. This desk has a solid, stable, grounded calm energy. It just vibes and exists and holds the weight of all the objects on it.perhaps it wishes for me to make it look nicer. Maybe it wants me to clean it up.

4. The chair in front of the desk is tired. I've had it for years and I rarely use it anymore, it feels sad or drained or worthless. Bc it's got a beach towel and some jeans draped over it, a service it can provide, but not what it was made for.

[ashen falcon]

yeah! you can then start relating this kind of mindset towards things that aren't inanimate so like plants that live and feel! rocks from the earth and thus hold its history, etc!

[tropic gust]

HEHEEHE THIS IS FUN

[ashen falcon]

if you need some further info we have an animism channel with a workshop rissy (a tutor here) made

[tropic gust]

Ooooo I'll check it out

So basically I just have to tune in and read the vibe like I did w those things and do it consciously enough that it becomes relatively automatic? Just feel things w intention

[ashen falcon]

sorta yeah!

[worthy stag]

hi it’s me again, i’m exploring things further. i got really overwhelmed so ive taken a step back. i know being a witch is personal and what you feel but im gonna list some of the things i do and i just need to be told that if it’s just mindfulness or witchy

• daily or nightly tarot readings for reflection, clarity, and emotional understanding

• occasional manifesting with a chosen card placed with crystals

• using a small set of crystals for grounding, protection, love, wellbeing and focus and holding them during reflection and charging them on the windowsill

• stirring intention into drinks

• emotional connection to water — feeling cleansed and safe

• a gentle spells: imaging a cloak of armour and chanting protection

• evening ritual with crystals, hot drink, fresh air (hopefully rain!!) tarot reflection soothing sounds (kalimba, rain ambience, etc.) ending with a soft protection spell before sleep

i hope this isn’t oversharing but i wanted some feedback honestly: does this make me someone who practices magic or someone who just uses witchcraft tools for mindfulness. i use candles and incense for making the house smell nice and feel good occasionally but im not really drawn to deities/using herbs/making offerings…. i hope this is all okay to ask im so curious and just love being part of a magical space but i wanted some guidance (ty for everyone’s guidance so far!!)

[hardy cedar]

In my personal opinion, when it comes to labels, it is okay to say it fits you if that’s what you earnestly resonate with
No one can or should take that away from you
Even if you don’t do grand huge rituals like an experienced witch who has been practicing the craft for longer, that doesn’t make you any less of one if that’s what you want to be!
Only you can say what you are or aren’t :)
(I am also a baby witch! You’ve even inspired me to try to implement some nice soothing evening times since what you do sounds very lovely!)

If you want my earnest opinion, yes, I’d consider that practicing magick! Even the “mundane” can still be magickal :)

[worthy stag]

thank you shadow the hedgehog hehe okay but seriously thank you, i just know how serious people take witchcraft and i would never want to undermine it by saying “i do magick! here is my silly little mindfulness” it does feel magick to me but it doesn’t feel like “proper magick” (again that’s my own insecurity and not reflective of actual magick, everyone is so valid) i just don’t want to overstep on someone’s community. i’m glad i could help you think of some nice things to do in the evening! it all helps so much as that is the main thing

[pale loom]

Every community has people who gatekeep, but witchcraft and the like is so personal that honestly sometimes we can't help but laugh at the ones who try

[elfin condor]

hey so im not techincally new to witchcraft however im new to the server and could use some beginner advice really!

my family are all into witchcraft but essentially banned me from it since i was young all because i opened my nans spell book to a necromancy page. however now i am older and have gotten my life in gear i want to explore my witchy side more and could use some advice as to how to get started

[pale loom]

#1114060085224808468 has some great stuff

[elfin condor]

thanks!

[normal sand]

Does anyone in here work with orishas or know how to? Please help

[ashen falcon]

orishas are a part of a closed practice and thats a practice, you need to be initiated into in order to be able to work with them

so unless your initated into the practice and have a teacher for it i dont know that anyone here can help beyond connecting you with a teacher

[normal sand]

Oh

Alright thanks anyway

[waxen skiff]

Is there anything I can try that doesn't require me to buy anything?

[ashen falcon]

yup there is soooooo much

[inland furnace]

Yeah, there’s plenty of options!

[ashen falcon]

#1114763288568418304 sigils and symbols, you can write these on pieces of paper & keep them around with you, paint them on your body or in pictures. Sew them into your clothes
#1114061062900293714
These are entirely energy based practices. They require you to have zero tools at all and are entirely based on your personal energy system, or that of outside influences like the sun or the moon
#1114061765630767104
This is entirely based on space.It's astrology, it's cosmic craft, it's just things that you do that are influenced by space the solar system and various aspects in that
#1114061344241627136
You more than likely have a kitchen or access two one and therefore, you more than likely have access to a lot of things in your kitchen to use magically. This includes literally your milk in your fridge. make magical cereal
#1114061394992705559
This is all about plants. If you have or know anything about plant life, you can definitely use any plants that you find inside outside around your home in your craft

A lot of people underestimate just how much is around you without having to spend a single dollar because you more than likely have enough in your space, already that you can use magically

id also highly rec #1114059754709450753 and #1356743110457299085
These are channels that are dedicated towards those that are either in the broom, closet or ways to make your craft more accessible. spoony is specifically for people that are disabled or have mental health issues but it's entirely possible to utilize them even if you aren't any of those things, because a lot of it's just making things quicker and easier to use.

[waxen skiff]

where should i start lowkey

[worthy stag]

whatever you feel drawn to !

[waxen skiff]

m u got example 4 me

[ashen falcon]

Think about things that you would like to pursue or understand more with your practice, start there

If that's not something that you can do right now. Maybe think about things that you would like to do and look into those more

What you feel drawn to is things that you want to do, because I could tell you: "Well, one thing that you could do is a ritual in the middle of the night while dancing under the full moon, wearing full regalia shouting to the god of the underworld"

Is that interesting to you? I have no idea this is a rhetorical example, but the point is that this is your practice, the stuff you should start with might be making a list of what interests you and working from there

[waxen skiff]

Wow you explained that perfect lmao

Apppresh it

[worthy stag]

for me i like the moon and the ocean so i try and do things related to that

[worthy stag]

maybe you like cooking so you might do that or maybe you like gardening so you might do something with that

[warm lion]

waves in beginner

[ashen falcon]

-# omg manon ily <3333
also hallo! welcome

[warm lion]

-# lyt!!!
tyyty

[hard gulch]

Hiii, I’m kinda looking for some protection stuff. Like spells, and jars and anything u guys know. It’s just that some dude has kinda been following my sister, and he hasn’t tried anything weird, and he isn’t really stalking her, he just shows wherever she’s working at (she does events) and legally there’s nothing we can do but she’s naturally spooked and I want to help her in anyway I can, even if it’s small stuff

[ashen falcon]

#1114060224924491907 could work or a binding spell to stop his actions but I wouldn't suggest the binding spell if you're a beginner

[ashen falcon]

please dont post the same message in multiple chats!

[gusty plume]

Sorry

[acoustic goblet]

hey is this the best chat to ask about spirit guide work or would it be better to ask in spirits and familiars?

[ashen falcon]

If your a beginner you can ask here or there tbh but you may find more specifc help there

[kind lotus]

Heyo Folks! New to my spiritual journey in the last 2 years and have been looking for more community to see and learn from / observe.

Small back story and the practice that I've been working on is more me...trying to make it into something that fits me, which I know is the basis for it.

This is going to be a bit spaghetti, but I wanted to see if my thoughts maybe lean towards specific paths or things I can read into and take pieces to add it in.

Backstory:

I have always had a thing for, what most people refer to as the "Edgy" things: always picking characters associated with Ravens, in DnD the Hexblade has been my favorite class since like 2014, Nightingale armor / mindset from Skyrim, and quite enjoying the moon as well as anything that is black and white contrat. I believe this stems from being a Capricorn / Year of the Ram / Earth bender (black and white mindset, stubborn) all that.

What it's lead me to is trying to take this and formulate it into something spiritual to connect to that is...not too "I made my ren faire persona into a spiritual practice"...but kinda?

-- Start of Brain Dump --

The overall concept of my practice is that, a Shadow is cast from the light and without light there is darkness. A shadow must protect the light both because it's reliant on it but also because it's worth protecting. I view myself as a shadow and my Altar is things like black and white images, a large Tarot poster for the Moon (which is a small light amongst the shadow in the sky) and candles that are white on the outside but have black wax on the inside so it spills out black over the white to show that symbiotic nature.

I spent some time looking into different theories of being like Taoism to see if I could draw from those, things like that.

My morning ritual is to stand in front of my altar with my hands placed like a shield, with my Myrhh and Incense candle burning and visualize armor pieces forming out of energy as I focus on breathing and concentrating on a word, finishing the exahle by "completing the piece and kind of solidfying that intention to my spirit for the day.

Overall, I've just referred to it as my Shadow Knight ethos, and have tried to study and look into different Pagan and Witchy style practices to imlement.

-- End my Brain Dump --

I was wondering if this just feels, I dunno, wrong? A bastardization? Cultural Appropriation?

And if not, if there are any leanings that you would recommend looking into, to for influence.

Thanks again for taking a look, I know this is quite scatter brained. 💜

Small Addendum

Also have been starting this while starting HRT a year and a half ago and also having a little one and wanting to have some more concrete things for her to grow up with ritual wise. For example: I have a sort of Altar above her book shelf and putting things related to the season there, out of reach for now, but visible and setting that practice with her.

So...lots of formulating things and finding ways to self regulate with a lot of changes happening in all aspects

[ashen falcon]

so i think overall it doesnt sound like appropriation, except for the Taoist thing. Unless your willing to like commit fully, id avoid picking and choosing aspects of a religion like that especially one thats mainly practiced by poc

it sorta feels like you are calling on a Gaming Archetype to act as your moral compass of sorts which could actually be a draw to pop culture paganism

[kind lotus]

Fair! I will avoid pulling from Taoism then, like I said, I'm trying to tread lightly and find things that work for me but in the most respectful way that I can. My personal things are not as important as respecting cultures and other folks in general, especially POC.

I will look into pop culture paganism a bit! Thank you for the suggestion. I'm sure what I described probably comes across as childish and I appreciate the constructive feedback.

I was raised with some really toxic and dangerous religion most of my life, and in the last 5 years or so (lots of therapy) have dealt with that, and wanted to come about it in a way that helped me be more open to it. I'm sure taking a path of least resistance towards some game tendencies I have had throughout the years lead here.

So again if any of y'all are like "yeah that's, diminutive, disrespectful to, not positive in x way" super open to that feedback.

[ashen falcon]

honestly it really doesnt! its not childish in the least tbh!

i think people tend to look down on pc paganism bc its "not historical" but every religion is made by people, so to make your spiritual philosophy from existing media (as long as it make sense and isnt hurting others) isnt that far off!

[kind lotus]

I have tried to read through some different texts and this is one that stood out to me a lot.
Talking about learning from the Appalachian peoples and being respectful of that but also learning from them as well as just the way of operating in her craft was inspiring.

[ashen falcon]

ah yeah! Appalachian folk magic would be closed unless you had a teacher to teach you.

[kind lotus]

Oh for sure, it's not for me, just was very interesting to read about and get a peak at.

I've been trying to survey different paths, have read about hedge, green, the Appalachian folk magic, lots of interesting backgrounds.

[ashen falcon]

🙂‍↕️ a lot of other folk craft tends to work similarly the specifcs are what changes tho

[kind lotus]

Kitchen witchery is something that resonates with me as well.

[kind lotus]

FOr sure! I just meant like, I'm not drawn to move to that region and study it the way that she talks about it in the book

[ashen falcon]

if it might help i can send a list of like "witchy paths" you can look through?

and it might help to know that you dont need to stick to one label, you can be a kitchen green witch

[kind lotus]

There is something so magical about a big pot of simmered stew with different herbs and veggies from your garden and serving it to other people.

[kind lotus]

That could be for sure! I'd be open to that!

Like I said, just trying to tread carefully. Not trying to take up any spaces that I shouldn't be, as a white person.

I also quite like runes, and have done abit of looking into that. Do you have any specific cultures to recommend to look into there? From what I have read, it's important to understand the language, pretty intimately, to know the meaning of the word/rune and its context to the cultural practice before ever really trying to utilize one.

[ashen falcon]

hm well depends on thr rune set your looking into.

bc most runes are made from dead languages that utilize one singluar letter. not everyone works with being able to understand the "cultural practice" fully before use and thats fine imo? since for some rune sets, they arent used like that historically so its a modern take on a runic set

also links:
types: #1114060085224808468 message
and this is a prompt list of self exploration for those feeling stuck in their craft: #1114060085224808468 message

[kind lotus]

I see! Is there a more popular set that folks gravitate towards? Just to have more resources and discussion on.

Thank you for the links!

[ashen falcon]

Norse runes are the most popular and have the most resources from what ive seen.

but i would suggest researching on your own the different types before just picking the one with the most popularity

[kind lotus]

That's valid too.

Even just glossing over the the paths, Lunar stands out to me the most. I have been using the MoonX app for the last 4 months and trying to integrate into those things. And the concepts of death and rebirth with waning and waxing resonate with me a lot.

I'll have to focus some learning on Lunar path specifically!

Thanks again for humoring my spaghetti brained explanation.

[ashen falcon]

no yeah! if your interested in lunar stuff any info on that will be in #1114061765630767104

[kind lotus]

Awesome!

[mellow prism]

Hey all! I'm not exactly new to paganism or witchcraft at this point (began practicing years ago), but I would certainly call myself a beginner when it comes to skill and knowledge level due to how on and off my practice has been.

My main struggle is figuring out which path to take. I want to feel a sense of belonging for whichever path I go down, but I just don't know which one interests me most.

I do work with Apollo and communicate through tarot with him.

I also have been interested in the more astral side of things as well.

I have also received many dreams where I see something happen that comes true later down the line.

I wish I had a sort of mentor in these things.

[ashen falcon]

you can ask for mentor services in #599790755208232960 if youd like, but i will note you can do all of that

[mellow prism]

Would it all belong to one path, or would I be following multiple types of witchcraft?

[ashen falcon]

it can belong to one path; yours.

the "types of witchcraft" markers are entirely made up by people that wish to differentiate their craft. as you learn and interact with folks you realize most people tend to mix all of these types pretty often

like astral and dream work often go hand and hand. divination can lead to dream work through dream meanings and divination

[pale loom]

(the labels are also handy for research purposes)

[mellow prism]

I see. So there isn't really a true belonging to a single path?

[ashen falcon]

you can but its more often than not something thats fairly hard to do. like green magic is something that may also extend into nearly every path that involves plant work

[mellow prism]

I see. That makes sense. That's very different from what I was taught when I first started a few years ago, but it makes a lot more sense.

I was taught that everyone chooses a path of witchcraft to go down, and it stressed me out a lot back then. I did want that sense of belonging to a path, but I have interest in so many things that I'm not sure I really could stick to one thing.

[ashen falcon]

imo labels are for research and community, but not for you to shove yourself into a little box over, you are 100% to flit through any open path you choose to and you experimenting with your own craft as someone just starting off is normal

[warm anchor]

Hello! I'm new and looking to learn more about myself. Intuition brought me here and hoping to make friends that could help me with this stuff. 🙂

Where would I go to talk and learn more about stuff I have questions about?

[ashen falcon]

you can check our practice channel directory https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1356749198527168654, our server directory #🐦‍⬛faq-and-directory or ask in #🕯️witchy

[warm anchor]

Oh, okay! It's gonna be tough since I don't know how to label my skills yet, haha but I'll ask in Witchy if i can

[ashen falcon]

yup you def can! that tends to be the "spirutual/witchcraft based general chat" where as these act like "off topic channels" of sorts

[warm anchor]

Okay! I'll try asking there.

[jovial vector]

I hear appalachian folk magic 👁️

It is closed but if you want to learn, I highly recommend Jake Richard's Backwoods Witchcraft for more melungeon/indigenous influenced craft versus Byron Ballard for more Itish/Scottish influence (but fyi she can get. Kinda gender binaried. A chunk of Appalachian folk magic does have a gender divide)

It probably is one of the easier practices to learn and be introduced into, and Especially so if you have Appalachian heritage. But I do consider it closed, especially for the need to protect it against Cultural Strip Mining

(You can always ping me about it though! My memaw taught me some basics, and I've been learning on my own too )

[kind lotus]

I appreciate it! It was more that I thought reading about someone learning about a practice respectfully while acknowledging that it's not for them.

[jovial vector]

Completely valid and welcome as well!

[kindred dirge]

I need help! Turns out what I thought was a bottle of green sage might be white sage?? And I heard that it's only for those with native heritage and it gives the boot to all energies not just bad ones- Which whilst my entire father's side is native, Ion feel comfortable using it. What do I do??/genq

(I also want the bottle it came in so I don't wanna just leave it in there forever,,)

[pale loom]

You could gift it to someone who's native or bury it to return it to the earth

[kindred dirge]

I was thinking about burying it!! I don't know anyone who's full native who's also a witch,, (Like I said, I'm tech native but I'm real pale and don't practice said culture so I'm not gonna use it)

[normal ginkgo]

Burying it is a good option then!

[kindred dirge]

Should I bury it in the garden I keep some of my ||skulls|| to return to the earth?/genq

[normal ginkgo]

I don't see why not

[kindred dirge]

Thank you!! (also Twice profile, peak)

[fervent goblet]

Twice fans?

[fervent goblet]

My friend has told me that too. And i agree with the burying being the best case here
But if someone on your fathers side practices maybe you could ask them or even your father who has ties with someone in the family who does practice if he does not either. Just to put in a second opinion on this.

-# Also my apologies for the long message.

[kindred dirge]

I don’t talk to my father at all, he left a long while ago,, He’s not a good person jshhsjshshs but if I still had ties to them I 100% would!!

[fervent goblet]

😭 ive technically tried to cut ties recently with my father.

No ways to contact? Mother figure(if there is im not making any assumptions), doesn't have any contacts after him leaving? If i'm allowed to say. If not I shall change it

Or if you prefer, since the topic is as it is, to drop this in total.
-# as i myself wouldn't want to go into much about my family's state.

[robust prairie]

So, ive been getting a very unusual amount of feathers recently, like, not just some every other day, i mean when i walk home from my bus stop every single time, and anytime im outside i find one, i constantly see feathers. Anyone know what this means?

[ashen falcon]

it might depend on what kind of feathers but a lot of people associate a lot of meanings with feathers. from winged creatures like angels and fallen ones, gods associated with birds, things associated with the element of air and more!

[robust prairie]

Well there's been alot, today there was a white one with a black tip, yesterday it was a cardinal/red feather, the day before it was 2 black ones and the day after that one it was a grey one, and then another grey one before that, and i keep finding them in the same very specific place nearly every single tome

[ashen falcon]

hmm do you have access to a form of divination?

[robust prairie]

Yes!

[ashen falcon]

you can use it to read and see if its a common thing that holds significance!

[robust prairie]

Im very new to it thi

[robust prairie]

Yes ill definitely try that out, thank you!!

[ashen falcon]

simple yes no questions would work for something like this! "is this something i need to look into spiritually" stuff like that

[robust prairie]

Alright!! Thank you so much! ^^

[uneven condor]

How would I strengthen my spiritual foundation? I’m connected to many things, mainly nature as a whole, but I also have my spirit team and 4 gods, plus the universe. I’m not sure how to go about building a space to freely explore and open up to them all, or a proper foundation to practicing with them? And I’m not sure how to safely open communications, I’ve been attacked by many malicious things I’m trying to do this as safely as possible 😅

[ashen falcon]

id genuinely start woth the basics!

if you need resources on any of the things listed we can also provide info on them

[waxen skiff]

I feel kinda dumb asking this idk why, how do tell what kind of witch I am?

[ashen falcon]

your not dumb! it's a fairly valid question to ask, but I think the answer is a little bit more confusing then it should be!

Pretty much you get to decide! the culmination of what you're interested in, where you want your practice to go and what specific things you want to look into or what makes your "witch type"

If you need some help in deciding on what kind of path do you feel best suits what you're trying what you're trying to do, we have this resource on the different types of witches that are commonly talked about!
#1114060085224808468 message

[waxen skiff]

Thank u so much, ur so helpful bro /gen 🙏🏻

[ashen falcon]

ofc glad i can help!

[uneven condor]

Where could I learn about protection that doesn’t involve smoke or fire? And about vetting too 🙂

[waxen skiff]

Can u be more than one?

Im torn between green witch and lunar

[normal ginkgo]

Yea you can be any mix of any of them, their only personal labels not defined roles

[waxen skiff]

Okie dokie

Thank u ^^

[bronze turret]

hello.. i don't know if this is stupid but is witchcraft associated with deities? (i personally don't believe in deitiesㅠㅠ)

im trying to find the best form of magik for me but im really new and aside from cartomancy i dknt really know what im doing

[ashen falcon]

So witchcraft is a practice, not a religion. Anybody from any religion or lack thereof can in fact practice witchcraft!

You're more likely going to be finding the type of witchcraft that you're looking for under something called secular witchcraft!

This could mean a focus on the more scientific or medicinal uses of things rather than metaphysical. Though, of course, you can always use metaphysical as well!

[bronze turret]

thank you! if i may ask, is it required for me to talk to spirits/deities?

I've been scrolling through most of the resources and it seems like most believe in gods and goddesses

i come from an intensely strict christian household and im still in the process of desensitizing

i just made peace with thinking "gods don't exist people do" but seeing people's vettings started to crumble that belief away

sorry for the rant

[ashen falcon]

nope but a lot of peoples practices are based in things like that.

like i said you 100% can be atheistic and a witch you can 100% never deal with entites.

but we are a space for all practices so if viewing and interacting with the way that other people practiced their own religions is distressing you or is causing you to feel distress in terms of your personal belief systems it's okay to hold off on interacting with religious spaces!

If it helps to and you're more focused on the secular parts of witchcraft, you can always mute channels that are directly talking about deity work/entity work/spirit work!

sticking to things like #1114060280004087869 #1114061294820135032 #1114061678963855410 and more (all of which do have some deity based stuff as this is a lot of resources) might be a solid way to start

[long wedge]

hi! just saw this walking past chats! i just wanted to say ive been practicing for like 5 years now, i did for a few months when i started go the following gods route but everything after that has been entity-less and i would say i have explored a wide variety of witchy practices and had a lot of fun!

on a very quick breakdown of my relationship with entities, i dont have heavy religious trauma or anything of the sort i just mostly dont fully connect to the concept of entities in general cause ut feels too far away from me

but like i said there is still a lot to do and many things to adapt! many witches do include gods in their practice because they are beliefs that tend to align but even if you dont i promise you can still connect with them and make friends 🫶

if you ever wanna ask sth about this my dms are open for it

[naive mesa]

I also do not follow/worship any gods. I celebrate spirits, which take the form of the energies and the like around me

[naive sandal]

SAME!

So late but it got to a point where I just made a witch circle for Dionysus and then put the rest on Persephone’s section of the altar

[bronze turret]

thank you! i've reflected on my past thoughts and realized i may have been insensitive towards religions in general. truth be told the concept of hell still really sends shivers to my spine, but i've made peace with the concept of reincarnation

[vocal wadi]

Hi I have started working with Goddess Brigid is working with her Open or Closed ?

[ashen falcon]

generally i would suggest figuring that out before working with them

but Celtic Paganism is not a closed practice so no she is not closed

[vocal wadi]

Awesome Thank you for your quick response @ashen falcon and once again sorry I double posted .

[ashen falcon]

[sick crest]

How can i start in like... witching.. like any beginner guide to deities or practices😭

[ashen falcon]

if you want some help on the beginner aspects we have: resources for beginners
staff made beginner guide ( this touches on researching, appropriation, tools, labels, and queer influences) :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PGiAVc8xU2azcIYm5PL0gqWb-AQlFgEcaJhfIt5mZTg/edit?tab=t.0
and Beginners Guide to Witchcraft by Ajax (this goes over more practice based stuff!):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbmXj48EdNIG55lnv1Br9Va9UlrE2g-EO4kNkVM3VqQ/edit

and #1114060085224808468

[sick crest]

Ohh okay thank you very much!!

[worthy stag]

had a little break whilst moving and i’ve stopped studying magick so i feel like a total beginner again ahh. i’ll have a scour in the server but is there any specific resources for witches who feel like they are a sea/water/moon/lunar witch im not sure what the actual name is because people use all of those haha. but now that i live near the sea i want to start doing magic related to the moon, water and tide. i live on a pebbley beach and honestly myself and my partner have found so much quartz! so happy

(very beginner, i do tarot readings for myself sometimes and have a lot of crystals to help me feel grounded but im yet to do anything in regard to spells or mediation as currently nothing is calling to me maybe because i feel very intimidated by the practice and just a worry but regardless i don’t want to force it so im just kinda a bit lost)

i am doing research, i don’t want anyone to feel like im just passive and wanting to be spoonfed info it’s just hard to know the right things to read and to search for,

[ashen falcon]

so we have elemental magic: https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1121860704467701890
and astrology/cosmic (space) craft: https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114061765630767104

[worthy stag]

thank you!

[ashen falcon]

[teal heath]

I have a question about spell work: what spells are recommended for beginners? How do I know if it’s working? How do I create my own spells without drawing in bad energy? (If that makes sense)

[plush igloo]

big question! I think that for beginners i would recommend doing spells that don't have really heavy implications, and starting off with smaller and more time-limited stuff. you might also want to start with practices like mindfulness and breathwork - which puts you into a light trance state - and visualisations to give you the 'tools' to help you with focusing intention and raising energy for a spell. you won't always know if it's working but if you keep your ask/outcome narrow, then that helps! drawing in bad energy, idk quite what you mean by that, but if your intentions are kind and you're not invoking anything or involving anyone else in the practice e.g. casting a spell 'on' someone i'm not really sure how it would get in! if you're worried maybe cast a circle/cleanse/do some protections to help you feel safer?

[ashen falcon]

• protection spells are usually a solid jumping off point. you dont want anything too complicated but things for tiny fulfillment (motivation, focus, glamours etc) are also solid!
• this varies on practitioner, for protection you dont know its not working until it fails ngl, but you can 100% use divination to check in on spell work if you arent seeing significant changes
• you dont inherently draw in bad energy from anything. the main goal of creating spells is intention, but if you want safety id suggest having protections to block out negativity before doing other spell work

we have #1114061294820135032 and a whole class on making your own spells in #📜transcripts

[teal heath]

Ahh, thank you! The reason im worried about “bad energy” or like giving spells bad intentions is because I have intrusive thoughts that can get quite violent so 😭

[teal heath]

Ohh that makes sense, thank you!

[ashen falcon]

intrusive thoughts wont inherently effect your work and if you are worried there are 100% ways to combat that!

[teal heath]

That’s good oh my god😭

[ashen falcon]

you can use writing what you want as the main focus of getting what you want verses what you are thinking into your works! use of sigils or papers with your goals can really help this long term!

[plush igloo]

intrusive thoughts are by definition ego-dystonic, so it's not that they would have intention behind them and therefore i wouldn't worry about that within a spell. helping get into a light trance state through mindfulness techniques where you're able to distance yourself from passing thoughts is helpful for your mental health anyway but it's extra helpful in any spellwork for focusing your intentions

[teal heath]

Thank you so much 😭

[ashen falcon]

i wouldnt auto rec "trance states" to beginners tbh! that can be really hard to master if you are dealing with harmful intrusive thoughts that could cause focus on them over the goals your hoping to reach. def could be something to work up to but would be a goal to reach not something to jump into as a start. as someone that also deals with them and adhd trance states are near impossible for me overall (yeehaw we love mental illness (/sarcasm))

[teal heath]

Yeah makes sense, later today I’ll look into the things you guys suggested and see if I can do those

[ashen falcon]

we may have something on like meditative states ? (which arent like "trance states" but) in #1114061062900293714! and we have #1114763288568418304 for sigil stuff. we do not have something on writing but,,, hm might write something on that soon!

[plush igloo]

i'll be really clear that I do mean a light trance state in the definition of the word, because genuinely just basic mindfulness and meditation is a light trance state, in the sense that your perception and experience is altered and your focus is changed. people often go into some form of light trance state multiple times a day. it's a word that i appreciate can carry some semantics with it but i don't tend to use the term meditative state unless i mean meditation specifically. we're probably coming at this with different definitions

[ashen falcon]

yes ik i didnt say meditative in the comment i said for that reason!

im not talking about meditation (aside from the comment about energy work which i clearly stated that difference)

im saying that doing trance work when you are dealing with very harmful thoughts already can make that even more harmful is all and i wouldnt suggest that for people starting out in magic as a whole

def free to disagree!

as i do deal with this stuff, from my experience, having a tangible ability to see what you want can be a lot more helpful than attempting to push yourself away from it through mental capacity alone, especially when you are adding things like spirituality into the mix

[echo trout]

Hey guys! I just did my 1st spell yesterday and my 2nd spell ever yesterday! My 1st spell ever was a protection spell (yesterday) first I washed a wine bottle! Put eggshells and salt in then rosemary then cinnamon!! I taped it closed and drew sigils on, then the 2nd spell i did today was a joy spell! I put salt rosemary cinnamon then orange peel and a bay leaf! I used plastic wrap and wax paper and tape it seal it! I hope im doing good !!

[ashen falcon]

AHH those sound great!

[worthy stag]

i had a bit of a salt spree as i’ve never used salt before and i got a shop bought jar of sea salt as i live by the sea and i feel so connected to the sea and the moon and i also got a jar of pink himalayan rock salt. now im a little muddled on what to do with these as 1) i’ve never used salt for witchcraft 2) im not sure the difference, ill look on the server for some bits but is there any salt guides?

i know its good for protection & cleansing but im finding it hard to know what salt i should use and when

i’m looking into collecting my own sea salt but i bought some to minimise stress,, i also bought some dried rosemary and dried lavender!! i know you don’t need material things to be a witch but it still makes me feel good!

[ashen falcon]

wow this is late but yes! we do

[autumn tinsel]

Hi, I’m new to discord as a whole . Still trying to learn and navigate.

I just started learning about chaos Magick. About to read condensed Chaos by Phil Hine , then read Psychonaut by Peter Carroll.
Just want to know if anyone has any pointers for me?

[copper wadi]

hiya! what are you looking for pointers for? we have tons of #1113290782007369859

[autumn tinsel]

Hi, thanks for responding.
Mainly testing sigils and daily practice. Do you have any pointers on building consistency or tracking results?

[craggy marten]

Hello fellow newbies

[ashen falcon]

you can do them whenever!
if youd like to use time based methods of boosting your goals though we have these on week day correspondences!
#1114060280004087869 message
#1114060280004087869 message

[gusty bear]

What daily rituals does everyone do?

[potent iron]

completely new but drawn to the practice as well as feel compelled to do certain things, is there anyone i could talk to in order to maybe point me in the right direction of who could be reaching out to me or how i can start practicing?

[ashen falcon]

oh here you go! starter stuff!
staff made beginner guide ( this touches on researching, appropriation, tools, labels, and queer influences) :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PGiAVc8xU2azcIYm5PL0gqWb-AQlFgEcaJhfIt5mZTg/edit?tab=t.0
and Beginners Guide to Witchcraft by Ajax (this goes over more practice based stuff!):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbmXj48EdNIG55lnv1Br9Va9UlrE2g-EO4kNkVM3VqQ/edit

and #1114060085224808468
also you can look at #1114059754709450753 if you dont want people to know

[potent iron]

I appreciate it

[potent iron]

is it better to follow guides like these exactly or is it better to work your own intuition for the most part? the things i feel compelled to do are often backed up by material i read about it after its already done, with no prior knowledge of any spellwork or ingredients or anything

[ashen falcon]

i think its probably best to do a bit of both.
you need to know what your doing to do it properly. there's noting wrong with being intuitive with your practice, but if you are just doing things without research you can end up hurting yourself or others with your spell work

thats why the first part of the first document is about researching

[potent iron]

[craggy marten]

Hey could anyone give a quick rundown on a coven?

[ashen falcon]

So a coven in its most basic terms is a group of witches or spiritual practitioners that decide to work together. Oftentimes, there is an initiation process. There is a doctrine that they follow. and they often do magical ceremonies and spells together.

in some cases it's less like people that are friends that happen to do magic at the same time and more like coworkers doing a job together

[craggy marten]

Thanks

[wicked willow]

Hey guys. New here. Imma just cut to the chase and say, I believe in tulpamacy and basically I'd like to summon my partners from the spirit realm. We've been a relationship for a year and a half. Any ideas on how I can see or summon them? I can see them.. but just their energy. They also puppet my physical partners body and we talk that way. Anyway, any books or spells to recommend or methods. I don't mind starting small if I have to.. we already have come so far as it is. It's just a slow process really.

[ashen falcon]

as i mentioned in general, tulpas and tulpamancy is an appropriated concept from Buddhism so no we dont have anything on that

[wicked willow]

All good. I suppose I got the term misunderstood.

This is what google had to say. Hence the confusion:
Tulpamancy is a modern, secular internet subculture practice where individuals use focused meditation and visualization to "force" or create an autonomous mental companion called a tulpa. The tulpa, or "thought-form," is considered a distinct, sentient entity within the creator's mind, with its own personality and agency, experienced as a lifelong friend or confidant. While the concept of a tulpa originates from Tibetan Buddhism, modern tulpamancy is a psychological practice popularized on online forums like 4chan and Reddit, though it is sometimes viewed with concern regarding potential links to mental illness.

So what I've gathered reading some of this information is to refrain from summoning any spirits until you have a correct understanding of spellwork and what you might be in for etc. Bad with words dude. But u get the point .. however I've already summoned spirits on countless occasions so should I still start from scratch or can I move onto something a bit more.. advanced..I am aware of protection circles and the importance for one's own protection

[ashen falcon]

Yeah, it's that link to the original practice that in and of itself is rooted in and stems from a very obnoxious misunderstanding of tibetan buddhist practices, that makes the term itself problematic

[wicked willow]

Hm.. yeah very confusing... this is why I hate Google.

[ashen falcon]

I would generally suggest that you not dabble in entity work (which includes summoning) until you have your basics down and your basics are going to be things like protection, grounding, vetting, banishing, and cleansing.

These are the most basic skills when it comes to doing any kind of entity communication. And if you don't have these downs, you have no way of protecting yourself, should something arise and you need to take action.

At the end of the day, we can't force you to do these things. But it's strongly recommended among the many in the practice who have been doing this for years

[wicked willow]

No I agree. I'm aware protection is particularly important and I will study further into this. Aswell as banishing...many people get stuck with unwanted entities.

I have being looking through the resources. I'm planning on buying an actual book that covers these topics. I'm sure some are mentioned but any ones u could suggest? I see that there are also false books and I don't want one of those lol

[ashen falcon]

Off the top of my head: not at the moment 🙏

one i could rec is By Rust of Nail and Prick of Thorn for protections.
Vetting isnt new but it's one of those unspoken rules that everybody pretty much understands that you have to keep check with the spirit you're talking with to make sure that it's actually them.

We have tons of resources tho and book recs as well in various channels #1114060224924491907 will hold most of the information but #1114061678963855410 and #1114061062900293714 are also topics that relate

[wicked willow]

Thank you. I've just added this into my notes. Oh I'm quite familiar with vetting. Although I didn't know this was the correct term... -_-

[gaunt elbow]

Hello everyone

[ashen falcon]

hi

[modern hawk]

Hey

[broken schooner]

Yo

[ashen falcon]

hi

[burnt frost]

hi!

[waxen skiff]

Hai

[worthy stag]

probably been asked loads but what are some good things for beginner witches to do with the blood full moon / lunar eclipse? want to take it slow, planning on taking some crystals to the beach and just being watching the moon but idk what else to do

[long wedge]

here are some info on them #🕯️witchy message , #🕯️witchy message this are some general resources on it!

my advice if you are like reallyyy new or just low in energy and cant seem to think of a way to adapt it, would be to take a look at the general meaning of the event and do easy things you already know how to do that matches (example: if it means new beginnings do sth about luck, closing cycles, cleansing, etc)

[worthy stag]

thank you!!! i think i’ll do some of that and just take it very slow x

[long wedge]

valid! good luck and have fun

[boreal knot]

hope this is the correct place, but… could there be symbolism behind groups of three crows AND groups of three ravens? At home for me, it’s crows, but I’m across the country & am seeing Raven’s everywhere, often in threes?

[ashen falcon]

hi so since crows and ravens are both corvids they tend to have similar meanings!

mundanely corvids are often "pack" units meaning they live in little groups! magically from this: #1114060280004087869 message it could mean that you are soon going to be met with a celebration of sorts or someone in your family may be having a child

[burnt frost]

ive been collecting my incense ash to make ink for sigils :3

[ashen falcon]

oooo thats so smart what!

[copper wadi]

that's so cool!

[tall plover]

I have a quick question and I am unsure if in here is the right place, ive oddly enough been gifted a bag of sheep wool and was wondering if anyone knew of any uses for it, my first thought was for in the compost/raised bed but then maybe there may be some rune/altar uses I am unaware of? Thanks yall ❤️

[boreal knot]

Are the books ‘the Spell Book for New Witches: Essential Spells To Change Your Life’ by Ambrosia Hawthorn & ‘The Shadow Work Journal: A Guide to Integrate and Transcend Your Shadows’ by Keila Shaheen valid resources? Or where can I look to check them out? Any help is massively appreciated, thank you in advance🙏

[ashen falcon]

1st book:
so based on some reviews, i believe she uses some hoodoo based magic and isnt initiated into the practice. she also doesnt give clear correspondences for any of her herbs used in her spells and instead just like tells you to throw things together. and lastly this is a very wiccan coded book with emphasis that you shouldnt do magic to mess with free will but then uses a hoodoo based spell that violates that. she also pushed the 3 fold law as universal

Id say if your getting it, highly rec you do cross referencing, and look into the author

2nd book:
as with all shadow work books i highly rec that shadow work be done in tandem with therapy as it can be harmful if you attempt to tackle concepts that are to harsh on your own. this author from what i remember doesnt include that safety measure in her book all while asking you to expand upon how shit or traumatizing your childhood was with no inherent follow up.

its not a book i would recommend but id suggest looking up other reviews to see if its something worth interest.

as for where to get both books most likely a bookstore like barnes and noble or something similar. you can see if your library has either of them, though i dont think they will have the shadow work one as that is an interactive journal you are meant to write in

[ashen falcon]

So these are some resources on the correspondences of sheep as well as ways to use fibers in your craft!

Sheep: Humble, peace, fertility, compassion, purity, innocence, courage, innocence, Longevity
Kitting/yarn spinning: #1303398020477354084 message
fiber craft correspondences: #1114060280004087869 message

[robust prairie]

Question, so if i were gifted something from a closed practice, would i dispose of it? Just leave it there?? I cant give it to anyone because i dont have any friends that are in closed practices let alone practice anything.

[ashen falcon]

Was the item that you were gifted given to you by a person from that closed practice? or is it like my mom bought me white sage because she doesn't know any better?

[robust prairie]

Its the second one, lol. But after that i would be curious to know the other answer, For future reference

[ashen falcon]

Well, if you are gifted, something by somebody that is within the practice that uses the item, that is them giving you permission to use it.

For your specifc situation it's very much going to depend on what exactly you were being gifted. Example: herbs can usually be returned to the earth (aka just bury them), given to native folks or tribes near you, or used as fertilizer. for non herbs: things like chakra books or other texts about closed practices could be gifted to those that are involved in the practice, either through selling them online or gifting them to a temple/religious site of that practice. things like crystals labeled as chakra helpers could be repurposed to not be chakra related (aka just use their color magic or existing crystal correspondences)

I hope this helped!

[robust prairie]

Thank you!!

[ashen falcon]

I LOVE THAT LIL FACE 🥺

[robust prairie]

I love deer 🥹

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-side-eye-deer-chile-anyways-deer-side-eyeing-gif-8719796056707128062

[shell garnet]

hii, okay i have a few questions that I think may be kind of weird to ask, but I feel so lost in my identity that idk I feel the need to get some advice from people who are professionals, I’m Muslim, I’m not religious tho like at all, sometimes a few prayers but that’s honestly all, and I feel like I am loyal to my god (no hate to any other religions ofc) but at the same time I feel so drawn to beings a witch it makes me feel like myself, I feel like both being a Muslim and a witch make me feel like myself which is contradictory, and I don’t know what to do bc being a witch goes against my religion, and I think in order to be a witch you kinda can’t worship a god of an entirely different religion no? I’m sorry if this is weird I’m confused myself..

[woven cloud]

totally valid feelings!

witchcraft isn’t a religion, it’s a practice. you can still believe in whatever religion you’d like! as for witchcraft being not allowed in your religion, it’s really up to you and your beliefs.

do you think it’s anti muslim? now i know there’s more nuance to it,, and I’m not muslim. but we do have other muslim practitioners here somewhere! if you feel drawn to the craft then you should try

[shell garnet]

I do feel drawn to it, but Islam completely forbids it and many Muslims make witchcraft out to be this scary and devilish thing that can only be used for evil but honestly I keep feeling that it isn’t, are we allowed to maybe ask any Muslim practitioners here?

[woven cloud]

i don’t know any off the top of my head, they come and go sorry! but witchcraft being labelled as bad and demonic isn’t new and will probably always be that way unfortunately. but it’s really not

we do have https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114761007550697502 with the resources to match, but it’s pretty inactive so not many people may see your question

[visual widget]

heyy! im boops you can call me delly if you like, im a new witch and im making a self love spell because i figured if its a spell about self love it’d probably be better if i made it cause i know everything I love

i was wondering about like where you should put your spell when creating it, likee i heard that putting it on the ground could be good cause of natural energy and stuff

but maybe putting it on a plate on the floor is better? cause the ground can be dirty

any thoughts? 0:

[ashen falcon]

hi this v much seems like a personal belief/idea! typically do candle spells in the bathroom for fire safe reasons

[visual widget]

okay! thanks

[ashen falcon]

If you feel connected to that personal anecdote, feel free to use it within your own practice!

[visual widget]

THANKS MONARCH

[ashen falcon]

[devout marlin]

Guys would it be wrong to call upon Asmodeus as a minor? I'm doing some research rn but im just curious

[ashen falcon]

I would say that unless you have a very good idea of what entity work looks like, demons should not be the first thing that you look into.

It's very much worth noting, that he is more than just the nsfw aspects *which i'm assuming, is what you're alluding to) that he is associated with and therefore isn't entirely only about that.

[devout marlin]

Yea ofc, I was just doing some research on magic in general and stumbled upon it, but im definitely not getting into demon stuff immediately, I don't know enough about the whole thing yet so that's not something ill be doing, and yes, the NSFW is the only thing I've seen about him and that's why I asked🫶

[ashen falcon]

we have this which is some stuff on him #1114061545916354560 message

[haughty horizon]

Hii uh so im currently writing my own spellbook does anyone have any good websites or advice for me?

[wise breach]

Hey everyone. I’m a super newbie and just kind of don’t know where to start. Any advice or suggestions?

[ashen falcon]

starter stuff!
staff made beginner guide ( this touches on researching, appropriation, tools, labels, and queer influences) :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PGiAVc8xU2azcIYm5PL0gqWb-AQlFgEcaJhfIt5mZTg/edit?tab=t.0
and Beginners Guide to Witchcraft by Ajax (this goes over more practice based stuff!):
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbmXj48EdNIG55lnv1Br9Va9UlrE2g-EO4kNkVM3VqQ/edit

and #1114060085224808468
also you can look at #1114059754709450753 if you dont want people to know

[ashen falcon]

id suggest #1263151241794682910

[wise breach]

@ashen falcon thank you!

[tropic junco]

Hii! Not sure this is the right chat but I had a question about constantly seeing spiders. Most search results came back as a sign for creativity and my mom says its a sign of good luck. But its been 4 spiders across 2-3 days, 2 of which fell on my face ;0;

[tropic junco]

Just as I wanted to come check back in, i realized I submitted almost all of my assignments at 4:44 pm today

[tranquil scroll]

everyone perceives things differently, if you think it is those things and saw an angel number it most likely is a sign of those things

if you are interested in any gods/goddesses (deities) you could also look up which are represented by spiders

[tropic junco]

Thank you!

[sinful grove]

ur not alone im also muslim

i dont do anything with witchfraft or other stuff cuz of my religion

[half wedge]

I have a question, I have yet to do any spells, I know you’re supposed to do a protection spell first, but I was wondering in the scenario I wanted to cleanse my space with a spell would that be okay to do before a protection spell since it’s sending away negative energy instead of accidentally inviting it or do I still risk that?

[ashen falcon]

Cleansing and protection kind of go hand in hand so doing those first as a category is okay! it's why we place cleansing under protection in the server #1114060224924491907

[half wedge]

Thank you, I was kinda wondering that but I wasn’t sure

[half wedge]

Do you have any cleansing spells you could suggest? I live with my parents rn and my mom tends to have negative or anxious energy, I want to cleanse my room and sort of get rid of that so I can have my own space that feels relaxing when I get home from work and feels nice and light, and honestly if it could keep it out that’d be great but i don’t mind having to do it like once a month 😭

[ashen falcon]

I could honestly suggest investing in doorbells!

Sound is a really common way that people cleanse, and if you were to hang, say a few bells on your door every time you go in and out of your space bells will send a cleansing energy!

[half wedge]

I unfortunately live in a small one story house so I feel like the noise could get annoying to my parents. I’m moving into an apartment at the beginning of the year and I do plan on putting bells on my front door but I just don’t think that’s an option yet, I’m also in the broom closet and that would definitely get them asking questions lol

[ashen falcon]

if you are closeted then #1114059754709450753 might have options!
Or of course, the mentioned protections channel, which has a bunch of cleansing stuff

[half wedge]

Okay thank you!

[raven helm]

Hello! I'm not ready to work with anyone butt I want to learn basic divinations. Is it possible?

[ashen falcon]

yup!

[lyric gust]

hello

is invisibility possible

[ashen falcon]

not like in movies

[lyric gust]

what is the definition of invisibility using magick then

parameters I mean

[ashen falcon]

you arent going to be a ghost like person like in movies but you can make your self less likely to be noticed or go unnoticed

[lyric gust]

like a spell?

can you manipulate?

[ashen falcon]

if you have to ask if we can do x and x is the plot of a movie answer is probably no

[lyric gust]

oh so we can't manipulate

well I haven't seen that in movies

and the only magick movie I watched was harry potter

[ashen falcon]

harry potter is not source worthy for pleanty of reasons

[lyric gust]

Yeah ik

btw oli have you seen any demons

what do they look like

[ashen falcon]

what do you mean by "manipulate" bc i can say im manipulating and mean like being a lying bitch that tricks people for fun

i do not "see" demons thats not in my skill set

[lyric gust]

no like

influence their decisions

with the use of magick

[lyric gust]

oh

so you just communicate?

[ashen falcon]

sure lots of people find it unethical but thats the basis of love magic

[lyric gust]

like ouija board stuff?

[lyric gust]

oh love magic...

[ashen falcon]

no ouija board, i use tarot and i can sense their presence but i cant visualise them beyond making head canons

[lyric gust]

oh

do you have your own tarot deck

[ashen falcon]

i have many

[lyric gust]

personalised?

[ashen falcon]

i mean i have bought like 20 decks

[lyric gust]

so if someone stole it , you could trace them?

[ashen falcon]

if someone stole one of my 20 decks, i would not care probably

[lyric gust]

what if they stole all 20

👀

how are we in 3 chats

at the same time

this is unreal

[ashen falcon]

i have adult money to buy more. i could potentially add symbols of ownership but i do let others use my decks so it feels weird to do that

[lyric gust]

oh ok

[upper aspen]

HELLO Beginner witch here.
I've been on and off with starting my journey since middle school due to the fact that I had little recourses and I live in a pretty..toxic? Christian household.

It's hard to really do ANYTHING when someone's in your ear threatening to kick you out for dealing with "evil spirits"??😭

I'm REALLY interested in polytheism and would love to create alters and practice divination? But I really don't know where to start or HOW to start considering the fact that I have to do it in secret.
PLEASE HELP

[ashen falcon]

would suggest this!

and #1114059754709450753

[upper aspen]

THANKYOUUUUU

[potent crypt]

Hey so idk if this would go here but when i do cartomancy is it okay to make my own meanings for the cards to make it easier for me to interept them (Im using playing cards) or should i use a generalized list of meanings that the cards usually mean (Like premade correspondences idk if im making any sense here)

[ashen falcon]

So you make perfect sense, I would say that if you are going to be using your own personalized correspondences, you have to be sure that you're able to separate your own personal biases from what it is that you're interpreting.

Some people find that through the use of their cards, they end up developing their own sentence of individualized meanings. but many don't start off with pure personal intentions because of that implicit bias that is there in their card work.

[potent crypt]

Ah okay. I'll make note of that thank you

[craggy marten]

Hey correct me if I'm wrong but it seems you're unfamiliar with what actual witchcraft is. Please take a look at the beginner resources

[craggy marten]

Closet witches sis 🫂

[feral matrix]

Hello beginner here.. where should i start? i am a bit overwhelm bc idk where to start. uh i am starting with crystals and learning how to cleanse and activate it but idk if im doing the right thing.

[ashen falcon]

hihi!

[ashen falcon]

So I would generally get started with these things! cleansing is definitely a solid way to start

I would also note though all these are a lot of links.You definitely don't have to get through all of them in a small time period, definitely take your time!

the craft is something that you can work on for your entire life and it doesn't need to be mastered in a few days

[feral matrix]

thank youu !!!

[upper aspen]

no because its hard

like i wanna be out of the broom closet so bad

[craggy marten]

Only one way to get the freedom is to move out

[tardy thistle]

Hello! I've read the beginner resources and want to start working on practicing/researching cleansing and warding first. These seem the most needed in my life right now and the things that will be the hardest for me to get the hang of.

I was curious how some people knew that they did something correctly or that something was their 'calling'. I have trouble picking up on hints or indirect communication.

[tardy nimbus]

hi i am new here i had this question. if i want a spell for a specific thing should i make it on my own ? if yes are there any rules (e.g- to add some words , etc) ??

[stiff coral]

Generally, people will agree that it's best to make your own spells, since the ingredients and intention are specific for you, but there're no rules about this kind of thing. You could even find prewritten spells and adjust them to fit your specific needs.

It's something I do all the time and something that helped me learn how to create my own spells when I didn't know how to. One thing I recommend is to research a list or chart of correspondences to help you come up with alternatives and substitutions

There are pretty typical associations and correspondences from a book called the Goodly Spellbook that I like to recommend. But like I said, these aren't set in stone and if something better works for you, then do that instead

[tardy nimbus]

Thank u so much 🙌🏻🪄💓🙏🏻

[fiery relic]

I've heard that Earth was associated with Autumn, and Water was associated with Winter? Is that not the case?

[ashen falcon]

These are not set in stone concepts. So if you believe that water is associated with winter and earth associated with autumn, that's entirely okay!

Some beliefs just have different understandings of correspondences

[stiff coral]

Oli is right, and I really wanted to stress that these are all from a single book and that no one should treat them like rules. I only suggest these because this is how I learned

[rich jacinth]

Im new to this stuff not sure where to begin

But hii

[stiff coral]

You're gonna hate this answer, but a butt ton of research and self reflection come before most of the magic you'll actually do

At least that's what most people here will tell you

[woven cloud]

yep^ we have a lotta resources in #1114060085224808468 !

[fierce dew]

I’m redoing my grimoire (I didn’t get very far last time) but this time I think I’m just gonna do it virtually because it’s so much more convenient and this way I’ll have access to it no matter where I go because I always have my phone and iPad with me

[ashen falcon]

yeah! we have digital tips in #1263151241794682910

[oblique wyvern]

It's funny how you say that because I was thinking of making my Book of Shadows digitally so I could have it on my phone and iPad too! I'm a beginner witch and I was wondering if that would be considered acceptable, but it sounds like it is, so great idea!

I was thinking of using the Goodnotes App to keep my Book of Shadows, that way I can bring it anywhere with me easily and conveniently.

[tulip raven]

hii im ABSOLUTELY new to witchcraft (i have not a single bit of knowledge about this) and im just really confused and overwhelmed, does someone have any idea on where i should begin?

like, what do i do? what do i research? do i have to have something? etc etc

[tulip raven]

ps: all i really have is knowledge about tarot cards and i dont really have faith in any religion

[ashen falcon]

here you go!

[tulip raven]

tysm!!!

[ashen falcon]

[fierce dew]

Such a late reply but goodnotes is what missing right now!!

[fading mountain]

I’ve been practicing off and on for around 4 years now but I still feel like a beginner, I have only made a few spell bottles, made some sigils, dabbled in crystals, and done basic tarot but I haven’t been consistent with my practice. I’ve tried to start making a routine but get overwhelmed every time or feel like things aren’t enough, any advice?

[ashen falcon]

I would instead of focusing on trying to create a consistent routine focus on doing things when you feel like you need them!

Magic and witchcraft isn't about creating something that you have to do every single day, it's about exploring what you need and want from your practice.

Should you choose to go down this path, you have your entire life to get to all of it! and if routine is something that you want, I would start with small things very small.

Focus on adding little elements of magic to your life that build up into something bigger. Soon, you'll find that you're looking at magic or for magic in all areas!

[fading mountain]

That makes a lot of sense, I guess I’m just influenced by the need to be doing all the time but that’s not really what witchcraft has to be about, thank you!

[ashen falcon]

of course! im glad i could help!

[glossy mortar]

not exactly a beginner but it feels like it sometimes since i’ve been on and off for the last five years and haven’t really gotten too far, i currently have a grimiore that i’ve been writing in but i seriously just need some advice for working on my craft. i also came to the conclusion that being spiritual isn’t really an act but more of a mindset on how one goes about their daily life but i really want to get into spell work and meditation

[ashen falcon]

hihi again
These are our resources on spell work and specifically are class on spell crafting: https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114061294820135032 #1114061294820135032 message

and #1114061062900293714 is where we will have information about meditation!

[dusty sparrow]

Ok beginner here can I not practice witchcraft and be spiritual only and play with crystals for my well-being

[ashen falcon]

well using crystals doesnt = witchcraft.

but witchcraft us not required for spirituality you just wouldnt do witch based practices

[dusty sparrow]

Right ty

[brave ridge]

I have protection bells by my door 🙂
I’ve been new to witchcraft.
I use essential oils.
I’ve got my reiki level 2
Been doing my egg cleanses ect
But still lots I need to learn 🙂

[ashen falcon]

are you latino or filipino?/genq

also can you switch your name to the regular discord font for accessibility?

[brave ridge]

Oh damn I thought and my name was cool haha
I am European

[ashen falcon]

then its important to inform that egg cleansings are closed to latin american traditions

[brave ridge]

I understand

I know a lot of things come from others cultures and I respect that

[ashen falcon]

you cant preform them if you arent properly taught by someone in the practice. and you name is cool but for users like me that use screen readers, we cant read it.

[brave ridge]

thank you for letting me know

Awh okay I shall change it

And I wasn’t aware of this so thank you for the knowledge !

I got a lot to learn

What things can I do as a beginner that can be done properly and respectfully

Hoping the font change is better now

[ashen falcon]

a bunch! we actually have a guide for beginners i can link that will be helpful and yes! that works

[brave ridge]

Thank you!! 🥰

[ashen falcon]

if any of the links say "unknown" the links will work, its just that the forums used are just in hiatus

[brave ridge]

Awh okay! Thank you for letting me know

[ashen falcon]

Any requests or offers for mentorship are going to be in #599790755208232960 as that is asking or requesting a service.

We do however have a lot of various #1113290782007369859 , including classes on specified subjects in #📜transcripts

I will note that if you have been doing spells and things of that nature magic does take time to perform.

As somebody that's been doing this for fifteen (ish) years, I have a set limit of three months before I've decided that my spell work isn't working.

It might also help to start very small. Instead of trying to jump into the deep end of doing absolutely everything all at once focus on one aspect and work on that until you can reach towards other aspects.

Grounding definitely isn't easy!

I would say that instead of trying to force yourself into a mold of how everybody else works look into alternatives!

As somebody that also can't focus, I go with active meditation as my form of grounding

This is a resource on that

Grounding at its base form is being present within the moment if there are ways that you can do that or do that already id focus on that.

Do it before your spell work

Like if you know that you're going to be doing a spell that day turn to active meditation, perform it and then go into your spell work.

What is grounding to you? /genq

Like what do you think that means?

So that's one way to go about thinking of it.

For me, grounding is making sure that i'm not overwhelmed.

i'll put on my go to playlist, chill with it for a little while, maybe do some cleaning up in my room and then go into my spell work.

As somebody with adhd, it doesn't have to be constant, and it's never going to be, because it's not how my brain works. i get myself into "the mood" / headspace of "hey we're doing the thing now" and making sure im not overwhelmed during that process.

That doesn't have to look like constantly being in a state of pure focus without letting my mind wander at all.

Because i'm unmedicated, and that's not going to work for me.

So I focus instead on not being overwhelmed by the process of what im doing.

Why do you feel like you're not improving? i'm not trying to be a therapist, but it's difficult to say that spells like that that don't come with a tangible effect "arent working" simply because you're not seeing results that you feel are adequate.

Like, what do you think self love and courage look like for you? and how would you go about boosting those things outside of performing magic?

These are all hypotheticals that you can ask and answer yourself in your own time if you feel like, that's too much here.

The answer isn't really going to be about how much you do or do not meditate, but going about looking at the problem through a mundane lens rather than a magical one.

Well, turning to magic, because your desperate isn't going to end up helping you long term.

If that's the only reason why you've turned to magic, then it might be suggested that you speak with someone specifically.

It seems like what you need is a very good support system and a chance to speak through this with somebody that is a professional, like a therapist or a mental health related doctor.

Because if it's not getting better, and it is instead getting worse there's something not meshing with you and the resources that you have used until now, which should probably be the first thing that you address.

And if you've taken those steps thats great, but it might be that you need less stress which witchcraft may not bring you

this whole thing is a very big learning process that can take a while and will result in failure sometimes which can be stressful and discouraging.

[austere brook]

hi! trying to read this candle wax, what could this mean? ive seen multiple different meanings

[ashen falcon]

sorry this is late but what are you seeing in the wax? theres a lot going on so having a guideline from you for to us to build off of is important

[austere brook]

i really cant interpret this

[ashen falcon]

like is ther anything that you feel needs to be interpreted?

[austere brook]

maybe a blockage

[ashen falcon]

well what was the spell for?

[austere brook]

it was a manifestation spell

on the full moon

[ashen falcon]

manifesting for what? or just like general?

[austere brook]

general

[ashen falcon]

so you werent manifesting for a specific outcome?
Im asking bc thats not really how manifesting works

[austere brook]

Oh

noo it was for beauty and attractiveness

like a

manifestation for that

[ashen falcon]

okay so then you manifested for something

[austere brook]

yes

[ashen falcon]

ive looked at the candle a few ways and the only real image im seeing is here (i need to circle it brb)

It looks like there is a little person hugging your candle as it burns away

Which could be that a entity is offering you help in this matter or it could signify that what you need to focus on is probably self love or self acceptance to reach your goals of beauty and attractiveness.

[austere brook]

ive recently prayed to lady aphrodite and im planning on setting up something for her so shes the only one that i could think of but the self acceptance and self love could mean something too

[ashen falcon]

well beauty is right up her wheel house

so it could def be both!

[austere brook]

yes! thank you

[austere brook]

hi! i have one question, can you add moon water to a protection jar with some herbs inside of it. And can I like put my name on a piece of paper with a personal sigil for protection inside of it too?

[ashen falcon]

yup! but when adding liquids to organic matter you run the risk of mold

[austere brook]

oh okay!

[dense cradle]

Does anyone know any herbs or things I can put in a money bowl well mine is a jar but it's pretty empty bc I don't have any herbs or oils it has cinnamon for abundance, $2 cuz im broke 🥀 some coins and sigils and runes

[ashen falcon]

Money (abundance, prosperity, road openers)
Allspice
Cinnamon
Plantain
Lemongrass
Rosemary
Basil
Thyme
Peppermint
Ginger
Orange peel
Cloves
Abre camino
Dill
Alfalfa
Fenugreek
Moringa
Star anise

[dense cradle]

Tyyyyyy

[waxen skiff]

Hi does anyone have any tips for manifesting and self love spell?

Btw I’ve never really done spells cause i sometimes struggling to read but I’d love to learn

[copper wadi]

I would start with protection before anything! we also have beginner resources I can forward you if you would like

[waxen skiff]

Yes please

[dense cradle]

GUYS I GOT LAVENDER AND MINT ESSENTIAL OILSSSSSSS (it's not that serious but I'm very happpyyy) THEY WERE $1 EACH

[ashen falcon]

nice!

[full raven]

Lucky! Hope you enjoy using them!

Hey, um... Does anyone know any beginner tarot spreads? Only, it feels wrong to just google it and use whatever comes up...

[warm lion]

anyone knows some very beginner friendly (maybe strong) love spells? before you ask, YES! i know what im going to face.

[warm lion]

like 100% workin

no borax no glue

[woven cloud]

we have some in #1114061678963855410 ! but i if you wanna poke around for something specific here’s some sites #1114061678963855410 message

[woven cloud]

I’m not gonna lie, not many people are going to help you. Love spells are not considered beginner friendly /lh

[warm lion]

i can go buy stuff whenever i have money,i just need help🥹

[warm lion]

i know what im going thru and even if its unhealthy,atleast it can try to be

i may be an horrible person,but if love doesnt catch me,im catching love

[full raven]

Thank you!

[ashen falcon]

your also a minor and it's not really recommended for minors to do that kind of love magic because it can be detrimental to the rest of your love life.

We don't promote non consensual love spells, so you're not gonna find much help here

[warm lion]

sigh i know

[ashen falcon]

If you want help, i'm sure that there are other spaces that are open to helping. But that's just not something that we really promote here

[full raven]

Maybe try a self-love spell in stead? Sorry if im overstepping, but it sounds like that might help you more
(I mean this in the most respectful way i swear)

[ashen falcon]

Good luck on finding it ig

[warm lion]

whats that wait a sec 🥹

[ashen falcon]

Self love is usually what we promote instead because it tends to be something along the lines of confidence. 🙂‍↕️

Though, for some people, it's literally because their boyfriend doesn't love them anymore .So they need magic to get them back

Self love is magic that helps you create a better relationship with yourself rather than forcing somebody else to love you.

[full raven]

Without the consent issues, as well as the knowledge that you chose to love yourself-
(Also more reliable, if im not much mistaken)
((could be wrong tho, i am just a beginner))

[ashen falcon]

no yeah thats pretty much it 🙂‍↕️

[warm lion]

ohhh i see i see

[dense cradle]

reminder that if blowing cinnamon out of your door is a part of ur practice in the beginning of the month ITS THE BEGINNING OF THE MONTHHHH

[wintry trout]

hihi, I'm a beginner so here I am

[ashen falcon]

hihi! we have a fun guide for beginners if youd like that

[wintry trout]

I found it already, it's really useful so far :D

[ashen falcon]

yeah! glad it helps!

[wintry trout]

I wasn't really sure where to start in this server lol

[ashen falcon]

What kind of things are you interested in?Maybe I can quench you to the right direction!

[wintry trout]

like I said in the other channel, I'm looking to be more involved and knowledgeable about practices outside of my own

someone recommended that I branch out and learn more, so hereee I am :D

I'm working on my digital grimoire, although its less of a grimoire and more of a resource dump/place to record my research

[ashen falcon]

valid! we have a bunchhhh of resources in #1113290782007369859 !

[wintry trout]

YIPPIE

[boreal isle]

Hi guys. Was doing yesterday mine first cut ritual and egg cleaning

Can someone help me interpret it

[ashen falcon]

Are you latin american?/genq

[boreal isle]

I can be even chinese for you. Energy same

[ashen falcon]

That's not why I was asking

Egg cleansings are a method of divination and spiritual cleansing that are closed to latin american people. So if you aren't learning from a latin american person, you shouldn't be doing them.

And if you are learning from a latin american person, you know that you have to learn how to read them from said person.

So we cannot help you interpret, because that's not how egg cleansings work.

[boreal isle]

Ah oki. No im not latin america person but thank you for answer

[valid mica]

Hey

[wintry trout]

hellooo

[austere brook]

hi so i came here with an important question, when u do baneful magic, i would always do a Protection spell before. But after the baneful magic like how do i know when to do a protection spell again cuz i dont want anything to backfire on me

[ashen falcon]

baneful magic is not recommended for beginners

If you're not well versed in the concept of magic and don't understand when you need protection, you should probably not be doing baneful magic

Because you need to know these things explicitly and well before you go into doing this kind of work. Otherwise you run the risk of harming yourself or those around you.

[hard oasis]

Before getting started on anything, a protection spell is essentially required. am I correct?

[ashen falcon]

yes

[austere brook]

yess ofc! Im just trying to understand this so like for example if i would like idk have a plant ward or any other ward for protection and then cast a hex and that hex backfires on me, would it hit the ward?

[ashen falcon]

potentially yes but with that its a reminder that backfire isnt always "the hex returns to you". its also just as likely to hit those you care about, or those you live with.

so warding is important in learning baneful magic but it is not the only thing you need to worry about

[austere brook]

oh yeah.. what else would i need to worry about?

[ashen falcon]

since you are a beginner i would recommend focusing on non-baneful magic /gen

[austere brook]

yes

[austere brook]

okayyy ty!!

[balmy notch]

Hey guys so I’m a beginner at this and I just got some loose sage (not white sage) and chamomile dried flowers so I was wondering is there anything I can do with it to manifest a beautiful self concept and luck? I also have cinnamon, honey, bay leafs, and also cloves (I want to have a better self concept first before manifesting my sp)

[ashen falcon]

I personally wouldn't recommend manifesting for specific people, especially when it comes to love related issues until you're past the beginner stage of your practice.

[balmy notch]

I should’ve explained more I guess I meant all within time and learning ofc but like I said I want to learn what practice I can use for luck and abundance

I’m all about myself first since I’ve already been working on my self concept and I’ve already been into spirituality since I can remember I just never got into spell work or anything

Just manifesting and dream work

[ashen falcon]

So i'm unsure if sage is something that would bring you luck

If i'm honest the other things that you have like cinnamon honey bay leaves and cloves are much more useful for luck and abundance than something like chamomile or sage

Sage is a protective herb in most cases and chamomile is one used for calming/sleep which actually could help you in the dream work aspect.

[balmy notch]

Yeah I made sage and chamomile tea the other night for clarity and peace before I gts but I wanted to learn how I can use that for protection since I also have egg shells but as for the luck and abundance yeah I was thinking those herbs (cloves, cinnamon, and such) I’m just not sure how I should put it into practice like do I set intentions and then burn it? Make a Sigil? Idk😭

[ashen falcon]

So you could potentially burn it. It would likely not work all that well ( shells are hard to burn )

Another thing you could do is layer them in a container and have that be a spell jar.

[balmy notch]

Ooo okay I’ll probably do the spell jar then and sorry last question do the moon phases affect it in any way? Or is a protection spell always good to use whenever?

Also thank you for taking the time to tell me all this I really appreciate it🫶🏼

[ashen falcon]

So this is going to entirely be based on your own personal preference when it comes to your craft.

Some witches are very, very deliberate about when they do and do not do specific types of magic based off of the moon phases.

i am one that does not do that, simply because I don't have the mental capacity to do so. i find that if you're doing a type of magic, so long as you feel like it's the correct time then, it likely is the correct time.

No problem this is why we're here!

[balmy notch]

I’ll definitely take that into note! I’ve been in more alignment lately so things have definitely been synchronizing so I’ll probably just continue to use that as my intuition on when I should follow through in my practice

Thank you!!!

[ashen falcon]

[hollow flame]

How can you do a discord one??

[ashen falcon]

You just make a private discord server.And assign different channels to different things

[hollow flame]

Ohhh

[ashen falcon]

Please also be sure that you are not responding to messages from over 2 years ago

[hollow flame]

Thanks for telling me

[shadow fern]

Kinda a random question, but as someone who uses runes and pulls more of my craft from Norse paganism would that interfere with the Greek and Egyptian gods I worship?

I'm still researching and everything, but I thought I'd ask someone who's more experience then I am

[ashen falcon]

so plenty of people practice with multiple pantheons!\

where you primarily pull from shouldnt really effect anything so long as you arent like treating the gods from other pantheons as though they come from norse mythology

[shadow fern]

Ah alright
Thank you!!

[twin flicker]

hello, is it normal to feel unfit to serve or be a devotee of a specific deity? or it is part of the shadow work one needs to learn? there had been multiple occasions where i had confirmation about Hecate reaching out to me but due to being a beginner in all areas/aspects of witchcraft and paganism, i kind of shrugged off any of the signs that might've been from her... im just sad i also might've been disrespectful towards her because of it

[ashen falcon]

Waiting to interact with duties until you're ready is not disrespectful by any means.

You are allowed to have boundaries when it comes to them just as they are allowed to have boundaries with you. As long as you're respectfully declining these kinds of interactions, it's perfectly okay that you do so.

I would also note that just because a deity is reaching out to you. It doesn't necessarily mean that they want you to serve them or to be devoted to them.

If you don't feel ready because of your lack of experience. I think that's a perfectly okay and valid reason to turn away deities.

i waited 5 years before answering any signs, I may have been seeing because I just knew I wasn't ready.

[twin flicker]

oh thank you! i just kept having random moments where i feel pressured by my own thoughts. i'll keep this in mind, i think this is also her way of telling me i should work on my boundaries too 😭

[ashen falcon]

That definitely could be the case! She is somebody that really takes the care to help you grow that part of yourself!

It's totally valid if you want to hold off until you're in a better position craftwise, and I think it's really mature for you to be able to even acknowledge that kind of thing in yourself!

Definitely go at the pace best suited for yourself and your practice

[twin flicker]

i will! i also just read that she's somehow connected to herbs and plants, and im a pharmacist! i think she's really been guiding me unbeknownst to my own accords. maybe someday i'll be able to properly give her thanks... for now, i'll just do my own thing first

also, thank u so much!! im really happy i went out of my comfort zone and join this server... its nice to have people on ur own community!!

[ashen falcon]

Of course i'm glad to be able to help and i hope you enjoy your time here

[twin flicker]

been lurking in the resources... so im very much having fun reading

[sullen pulsar]

I'd also suggest that shadow work is not required for all paths. It's helpful to know yourself well, yes, but in some cases it can do more harm than good.

/stares at the several years I spent in Shadow Work Hell because.....thats what I thought was expected of me

[twin flicker]

oh, i understand. thank you for that insight, i might've been confusing shadow work as something like a... fixing things mentally. wow! i think im becoming more comfortable to just being blissful with witchcraft.

[upper stone]

How can i find a trusted Grimoire

[naive sandal]

What do you mean by trusted grimoire? /gen

[upper stone]

I found a few on the internet but I don't know if the spells is correct

[ashen falcon]

If you mean grimoires at all, I would put an anecdote that every grimore is written by a person based off of their own personal experiences. so the spells included are spells that they use not like guidelines for how spell work as a whole is meant to work.

There is no accurate spell work in a grimore. Because it's based off of that person's individualized practice.

[naive sandal]

If you want a truly trusted grimoire trust in your own and start building it bit by bit!

[upper stone]

It's okay for me to try other people's, right?

[naive sandal]

I think spells with the knowledge that not everything is copy and paste but in terms of grimoires like Oli said they’re very individualised and based on a persons experience!

[ashen falcon]

^^ you can practice with other peoples spells but i would stress that you need to know why each part of a spell does what over blind following. if you cant discern that i would hold off until you can.

[upper stone]

Okey, How can i do my own spells

Sorry if im asking to much i want to learn

[naive sandal]

No you’re good! Getting a good grasp on your basics is a good start: protections, wards etc!

And we have a mini directory for that

[ashen falcon]

we also have this too: #1114061294820135032 message
my class on spell work (archived documents is where most of them are)

[upper stone]

Tyy

[dusky chasm]

Hi im new to this... the beginning of the year I had a spiritual awakening.
I use to go into abandon homes... well one of the houses i went into is very old and the only thing that was in the house was a wooden stand up mirror that was covered and a wooden dresser with a small mirror as well. I brought both of them back and put them in my house. Ever since then I have had an abundance of spiritual encounters. One being The Hat Man. I have actual footage of him next to me on my security camera.
I have lots of footage that shows my dog going crazy and you can see the many different spirits in the room with her.
I know I should probably just get rid of the mirror and dresser... but im nervous I will take them back and the spirits will be in my house or something. Please any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated

[slender flare]

Candle info for beginners!

[violet elk]

Hi I'm kinda new to practicing and I was just wondering does anyone know how to do tarot cards because I got some and I'm kinda confused

[slender flare]

There’s this great book on tarot that really helped me

https://share.google/5oPTt9MRawNKWlVV0

[violet elk]

Thx this is going to help me like a lot

[zealous pelican]

Basically, I just did the trick on a guy. He was laying in bed right now, I feel like. He was sleeping and then I did the trick. I imagined him in a room in space. Like it's just a block of the room and the door. And then I knock on the door and if the door opens, which it did, I enter in the room and I whisper in his ear in his bed, in his room, and then I leave and close the door. And then he texted me immediately, but I'm thinking right now, is it important to let the door open itself? what does it symbolize?

[late ravine]

Beginner here!

I’m honestly still trying to figure out exactly what I’m practicing..I have felt this pull for a very very long time and finally had enough life events to want to give in to that pull. Even though I don’t know what direction or what is pulling me to it.

Any tips on good ways to figure that out?

A close friend I’ve talked to off and on about it has tried to help. But all we come up with it’s from growing up in Appalachia and my roots are pulling me back and wanting me to finally accept it. But it’s still an accept what?

[zealous pelican]

did you know drinking sage tea makes you feel better due healing properties?

lavender and chamomile in a sleep pillow helps you relax and sleep better

a bath with raspberry leaves helps to keep current love relationship alive, though I never did that, I like for my relationships to go when needed

wash hands in a chamomile infusion before playing games of chance to increase success or keep chamomile with lottery tickets for good luck

sprinkle an infusion of linseed before doing divination (like tarot cards)- i gotta do a new infusion

garlic+rosemary+sea salt is used to banish evil

just start somewhere. it's fun.

i recommended really preparing and working towards doing witchcraft spells n stuff, start small, do spells only after a couple months like when ur prepared. buy crystals, tarots and pendulum.

[wintry trout]

You should do research on your roots! If your family’s from Appalachia you could look into Appalachian folk magic

[zealous pelican]

damn im russian, yk smth bout russian folk magic?

[wintry trout]

No, I only know about my own culture’s stuff, but I’m sure it exists if you go looking for it

[slender flare]

There are many different kinds of witchcraft, I’ll link an article about them down below. I would recommend figuring out which type of witchcraft calls to you and then buying a book about it or looking up some spells about it. But also, these aren’t the only types of witchcraft, just the main ones.
Overall there are many great books for beginners, I recommend checking them out
https://awesomeon20.com/types-of-witchcraft/

[raven helm]

Hello! Im a baby witch and I tried my first ever candle spell. I usually do just small charm bottles and protective thingy for my room. Im trying to do a protection spell for my health. What I used are tiger eye stone, clear quartz, citrine stone, candle, dried thyme, salt, sesame oil, and water. I did try sprinkling salt all over my place before I start and I also put an incense before I started. I just want to know your thoughts and If I did good. I am planning to use the four elements with this spell, but I don’t know about the wind. im trying to sing my chanting for this because that sounds what I do best. Can I hear yout thoughts about this? I just really want to protect my health, my soul, and my energy from anything else. Thank you in advance!

[long wedge]

hi! your intentions seem pretty clear, the correspondences of your materials all align and for the process whatever makes you feel more confident on it working is what works best!

i do want to point out, because health is a delicate matter, that as "protection" for your health it is a good addition but regardless you should take care of yourself besides witchcraft and go to a doctor if anything comes up

that aside id say its a great spell! maybe you could put some thought to the symbolism of the color of the candle or the type of incense you burn (but thats just me suggesting something you havent mentioned in case you wanted other ideas)

good luck, wish you the best!

[high jewel]

Hi, I hope everyone is doing well! I was just wondering if there were any resources for reading oracle cards? A witch friend of mine gave me Egyptian God oracle cards and I am interested in learning them!

[long wedge]

hi! #1114061678963855410 message thats the link to a divination workshop that may help! however for oracle cards your best friend is its guidebook since oracles are all different

you can use similar methods as tarot, use symbolism in the art, colors, the same spreads, etc, but the "card" meaning is best searched for in the guidebook

[high jewel]

Thank you!!!

[long wedge]

np! good luck and enjoy your cards

[shadow fern]

Hiya! I've got a quick question on how to ward an object? I would like to creative a protective ward with a plant of mine but I dunno how I would go about actually creating the ward.
I plan on attempting to communicate with Persephone tonight so I'd like to have have multiple forms of protection in case of anything negative attempts to fool or harm me. Any other tips (whether it's communication, protection, etc) are greatly appreciated too!

[wintry trout]

I usually make physical wards by drawing protective sigils on them, then using my own energy to cast a barrier around the space

I should put a barrier around the whole house soon

[shadow fern]

Ooooh alr, so by space you mean the room the ward is in right? I just wanna make sure lol

[wintry trout]

yes yes

[shadow fern]

Okie okie

[wintry trout]

Or wherever you’re doing the thing

I do stuff in my room, and my ward is a fake plant with a sigil drawn on the bottom of the pot, sitting on the highest shelf of my bookcase

You don’t have to put it in a high place, but I did

[shadow fern]

I keep all my plants high up because my cats will monch on them in I don't xD
But thank you so much!

I should actually make a crystal ward soon for my room too

[high goblet]

how do offerings work? if I offer a gem or fossil does it just like belong to the being I offered it to? do I just throw it outside? is it still mine?

[naive mesa]

If I make a physical offering of something that doesn't deteriorate (so not food, incense,etc) then I leave it where I offer it on my altar until my next spell work or ritual, then I move it to a spot on the altar where it will reside.

Items that deteriorate like food, I let sit for about 24 ish hours so the spirits can have their fill, and then I set outside or bury to become one with the earth again.

[wooden oracle]

hii

hiiiii

[naive mesa]

Hello

[long wedge]

id say thats rather personal but if it brings you peace of mind you can just ask for it to be used afterwards with divination

id say it makes perfect sense if it sth that can rot or anything but, like shadow who shared their method, you can find your own ways of going around offerings

there's not really an "offering protocol" that must be followed (unless your beliefs tell you so)

[jovial vector]

For me, I leave consumable offerings for a few hours up to a few days, then eat/dispose/use however I see fit. For offerings like gems and fossils, I leave them for as long as they feel Vibey. Afterwards I remove, cleanse, recharge, and place back in my own collections. Some offerings are permeant, like Anubis's tiger's eye or my feather on my ritual altar, but some are moved and reused

[raw bough]

I am new too paganism coming from Baptist teachings (Protestant Christian). I want to know what are some small practices I could add to my routine. A morning prayer, a prayer to bless food before eating, a prayer to end the day. I have bought some books about Hestia and have read a few hymns and wanted to see if there some hymns I could use in place of what I used to say for prayer.

[full raven]

Hi! Im a beginner and have seen several mentions of a 'spirit team' or 'higher self' and contacting them but i cant seem to figure out how. Could anyone let me know how i could contact my higher self?

[full raven]

Theres some stuff abt hestia in resources ➡️ hellenism resources that might help

[jovial vector]

I also love asking for small signs in prayer too, like cats, mud, mushrooms, etc. it's fun when I spot them. But simple prayers to open and close the day are good, as well as prayers just when you see something that reminds you of them. I come from a household of Baptists and Methodists and have been where you are :)

I also love using a deity's epithets (titles other than their name) when praying - it gives it a since of formality to me, even if I'm not following a specific format

[jovial vector]

Spirit teams can be contacted with most divination and clairsenses, if I recall correctly. I count deities as part of those teams so any way you'd contact a deity, you can contact the rest of your team (ancestors, guides, etc)

But to me, the higher self is a part of you, and doesn't need to be contacted as much as it needs to be listened to. It's a combo of your intuition, inner dialogue, and the best qualities of yourself. Almost the opposite of a shadow to me?
I would say meditation, journaling, and taking time to just sit in silence are good options for doing so, the same way you'd look at the shadow self

[full raven]

Thanks! this is really helpful!

[raw bough]

Thank you I’ll check them out

[raw bough]

I come from southern Baptist teachings so I have been trying to have that I could use in the place of those prayers

[stuck pasture]

As a beginner who only recently started practicing and learning both witchcraft and paganism could someone give me tips on food offerings also just a question but do you have to have an alter to make a food offering I’m still in process of making an alter so I was curious

[raw bough]

In the #1113290782007369859 there are threads about the different gods and practices showing what kinds of offers you can give depending on the god/goddess you are trying to address

[hollow thorn]

hey guys i dont know where to start from , if anyone can guide me pls dm me

[naive mesa]

This is a great place to start. It would be good to know what you practice/why. Who you want to worship. Because while we can give you advice to get started, everyone practices a bit differently.

[hollow thorn]

oh can yall share your experiences on how you started witchcraft??? really curious <@&1149488450794426439>

[wintry trout]

I was a Hoodoo practitioner first, then eventually branched out to witchcraft because I was curious :P

I didn't really have a reason outside of curiosity

[warm anchor]

For me, it all started when a friend of mine was doing some work with a pendulum and I doubted magic at the time. Out of irony, I started it myself to see if I can prove him wrong. Yet, when I started it; I was surprised of how natural I was with magic work. Since then, I've learnt how to hone my witchcraft abilities and use it to help others.

[naive mesa]

I was raised Catholic and was told to blindly follow a faith that didn't practice what it preached so I began researching witchcraft and what it entailed. It opened the world of unstructured/unorganized religion. My practice has shifted a lot from where I started to now being considered a agno-naturalist pagan. I personally do not believe in the gods but in spirits of the world around me and what has passed.

[wintry trout]

I just call myself a polytheistic practitioner

but my bio says "witch" because I ran out of space ->-

[shadow fern]

I've always been more connected to spirits and spirituality, seeing as I'm able to see them. So when I discovered witchcraft, I thought it would be great for enhancing my communication with the dead and use my love of plants to create wards and herbal remedies! I've only recently started deity work and worshipping and it's been amazing so far

[wintry trout]

learning about other practices and pantheons has been very interesting

[shadow fern]

Agreed agreed

[distant cape]

honestly i got started on pinterest lol i loved the idea of having a generic spirituality (i was raised catholic) using the earths elements and your own energy to believe in :)

[weary lodge]

i grew up in the catholic church and then gradually started exploring folk catholicism and brujeria. i felt a strong connection to folk saints and venerated/canonized saints i'm still very much in the broom closet when it comes to my practice, but whats cool is that i can still disguise it in a way lol

[potent crypt]

I was a foster kid who at the young age of 13 found out what witchcraft was- ofc I didn’t fully understand it and how it works (yes I did a spell to become a fairy lol) and I didn’t really start getting into it until I was in my sophomore year of high school. Been on and off practicing since then

[pale loom]

We and a friend poked around with Wicca stuff back in middle school and while we're not friends with them anymore and our practice has changed a ton since then

[merry sierra]

Xèn’s black salt recipe:
( @merry sierra )

-What is black salt?
Black salt or the witches salt is basically marine salt whose esoteric proprieties (absorbing energy) are amplified by the other ingredients.

-How can I make my own black salt?
You will need
2 parts of table/marine salt
1 part of fine ashes
1/2 to 1 part of black pepper
Cloves, yes the herb (optional)
Mortar
Some sort of jar to save the black salt

Of course you need to cleanse all your ingredients and tools before doing this recipe in order to make it last longer.

You will add all the ingredients and mix clockwise in order to get as much protection as we can. If you add cloves I would recommend you to grind them first of all and then add the other ingredients.

-What can I use black salt for?
-Draw a line in your front door and windows to protect our home from negative energies
-Save under your pillow or bed to keep away nightmares
-Add to your bath water when you are feeling depressed, negative or angry
-To cast a salt circle to extra protection
-Sprinkle outside your front door saying that person’s name to keep them away
-Add to your cleansing water
-Keep some with you when you know you will be on a energetically hostile environment.
-Use in banishing or hex/course breaking spells

Disclaimer
It’s important to keep in mind that black salt absorbs negative energy so it’s important to purify it or change it periodically.

[ashen falcon]

would you like to submit this to #1113290782007369859 ?/genq

[merry sierra]

Yeah, sure

[ashen falcon]

if you ever want to submit we have a channel #📜submissions that you can just throw stuff in and staff will post to the resource channels after review! ill post in spellwork resources!

[merry sierra]

Thanks! Didn’t know that

[latent snow]

Has anyone heard of the online witch con event? Heard about from a podcast and they gushed about it, but wanted to hear from others about it too. Looks like the next convention is late February.

[ashen falcon]

i have not! i didnt even know their was one. id likely research it quite a bit more if you plan to go!

[latent snow]

Looks like they have prior years open too. That I might look into. Don't think I'm ready for live events for a whole weekend.

[wintry trout]

ONLINE???

THATS PERFECT

[latent snow]

Right!? Apparently it started in 2021.

[wintry trout]

Holloonnn WE need to look into this

[latent snow]

Website says it is has presenters from around the globe.

Do you need the website link? Can I even put links in chat?