#Deities
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"i lost my necklace..."
looks at my charger
Loki, the one who made me lose my necklace (i blame them for everything /lh): đ
btw random fact that's /upg but archangel michael likes blueberries... he likes anything that has a bit of blue in it
oooo neato
i've asked him "what do you like" and he was like "blue" very aggressively
LMAO
i believe in his angels list it has blue so thats good đŤĄ
my blankets are blue and i have the ikea shark so he likes to sit on my bed or hover over it đ
what all angels are closed to work with btw? i dont think ill work with any but i dont wanna like. accidentally try to work with one thats closed or anything
Jewish ones are closed
gabriel, uriel, and michael are the (main) open ones
okay!! thank you :3
yeah, it does have a list of angels and which religions they come from
i'll look at it later :D i dont think ill work with any because of personal past religious stuff that intimidates me but idk :3
i think its in the big angel doc me and an old friend made (from my old and deleted account)
does anyone here worship or work with Thor 
OMG ME
HE VISITED ME LIKE A WEEK AGO
well i'm sort of trying to make a connection w him
I WAS LIKE "ok....... i sense that someones here"
Damn
and he was just. watching.
Loki was like "yeah he does that đ don't be intimidated teehee (i totally brought him here!!)" and continued hitting me w my necklace
so i kind of wanna worship Thor but idk how to start that đ§
like what he likes
a deity is 100% here geez i can feel their presence so strongly LMAO
i think i know who it is
oooooooo
i'd look at it if you do!!!
I have no idea how you guys put up with gods that are continually messing with you
Loki makes me smile bc they know i dont get angry over literally anything
^ yeah, deities respect boundaries if you set them. i did it with readings so deities wouldnt mess with my readings with other deities
i told them if i was already doing a reading with a deity to wait until i get to them instead of throwing out ||Death|| in the middle of a chill reading
Also another question: can you light any type of candle and assign it to one god or that gotta be a specific type too?
LMAO
nah you can do any kind even the led ones
but i would maybe ask what they prefer
Ok thank you
theyre usually fine with any offering or gift as long as you have good intentions, though some of them do have preferences
Loki accepted rice, a yoohoo, and a video game as offerings before (i dont think he liked the yoohoo but he accepted it anyway)
i tried to do a different offering instead of a yoohoo for them but they went "no, i love it!" while tears streamed down their face as their smile shook and they contemplated life /j
I love how you can just do ever life stuff and just say âthis for you (your god)! >:)" and they take it
I tried greek food in Apollo's name and it was the BOMB
ooooo
they love pretty much anything as long as you mean well đ they also do like random or silly offerings
i heard someone who worked with Hermes printed out memes and offered them to him (he liked it)
i wanna learn Greek for my Greek deities so bad
bea !! i submitted stuff for thor :3
i thought it said "go eat ranch" and i did a double take
PFFT
i'm getting an approving nod
i love ranch
I have no idea how you guys can easily sense them, I only sensed them a few times and the other times I can't even tell whos who
thor is known to have a big appetite, so he finds anything goes
he reminds me a little of Athena /pos
in deites ty for your contribution đŤĄ
practice and time !!
a lot of it comes from being around them for long enough i only can really sense hades and lucifer bc theyve been around me the longest
and aphrodite a bit
Probably when I start doing actual deity worship
other than that i just ask "this u"
a demon i started working with has a big presence & im always like "oh thats him"
i usually shut out my clairs because a lot of entities like being around me đ
a lot of my deities i cant tell their presence because i hit a big blockage mentally & with creativity etc and i think it affected me with energy sensing LMAO as well as me taking a LONG break from deity work
adding on, dont be afraid to take breaks bc of this!!
I tried using a tarot card deck I have but it never answers my questions
is it mixed answers or not making sense etc?
Like when I ask who this is I get a money card
hmm
do you work with Greek deities? i only know like one that i work with thats associated with money
I suggest cleansing it
i think hes associated with money idk
hades is a money guy
cleansing &/or resetting can help
Btw this is the deck I use to use (it was a birthday gift)
ok so i know two deities then
god of riches 
i was thinking Hermes but also yeah Hades makes sense too
I associate Zeus with money as well, since he likes the color gold
ooooo true
is hermes associated with wealth??
i think he is??
Honestly one of the decks is cursed
so that could corrolate to wealth??
thats so funny LMAO
LMAOOO
there is also Lord Plutus (A son of Demeter by Iasion)
idk hes always in tarot readings used money associated cards too
when i asked who it was, so it might be
i imagine after stealing a ton he'd be rich LMAOSNSJ
when i worshipped Hermes, i always used to make stealing jokes and he'd go "you WOULDNT" and it was a back n forth from that lol
LMAO
I asked who are you and now its saying debt and fraud?! WHAT?! đ
i stole a monster high bracelet from my friend in 1st grade & i like to imagine Hermes was watching like with a smirk on his face
Six of pentactles reversed
uhhh
i sent that message and discord crashed, geez i wonder who lagged my laptop behind, its not like there's a god of technology here or smthn /LH
I ASKED WHOS THERE
i associate self care with Aphrodite, Hermes, Lucifer, and a few others
i meant he's a god of money/finance btw
Im gonna get an actual tarot card set and see if its better
i assocaite self care with all the deities ngl
personally i recommend doing spreads for deity identifications
HELP
tbf ive used uno cards and it worked? you might need a cleanse or reset
^
YES
pinterest has good spreads for that ..
pentales are are associated with gaia demeter and freyer
pinterest has everything
i personally use playing cards with names of all the tarot (major/minor arcana, cups, pentacles etcetc) on them since im in the broom closet
tbh i just dont read reversals when it comes to identitfication bc that makes it harder imo
yeah a regular set of cards works wonderfully
it calls me out in a regular basis
i use reversals but i also look at the tarot card image itself to see if theres any animals, horns, etc,. and if the reversal of one card lines up with the other cards
I am probably going to use the pendulum first, but honestly I probably wouldn't believe it since I don't how to keep a dangling thing steady for them to answer T-T
for me i just feel like they already have to choose from 78 cards choosing from that 2x bc reversals may be harder
OH
you can brace your arm!
true!!
like on a table or somthin
I DID A UHMM spread today for communication and got temperence (icant spell), is that associated with Lady Hestia??
i think so
im not entirely sure
UHHHHH lemme check
Good point
yes, she is i think
artimis isis nepthys iris maat apollo (from a list i have)
another*
ahh thanks leon :>
that is a lot /pos lh
yeah it was artemis or apollo i was thinking of! but im p sure hestia is too
i know hebe is assocaited with it
ok wow hestia is visiting me too now đ
WOOOO
LMAO
Lady Hestia take over â¨
my room is getting crowded i feel so many energies
Is it weird that my heart squeezes when I mention Zeus??
i think a deity's here to say happy birthday but I DONT HAVE MY NECKLACE OR TAROT IN HERE RN đ im at my grandpas so i havent had the chance to do a reading here yet
im p sure she was here today like tryin her best to help me up?? from my bad day but i was jus not ready /lh
I don't know thats a love or hate thing
or its two.
i would check to make sure its not like a medical thing /lh
like if its a pain or something
pls go to doctor
actually i have the same thing and i thought it was spiritual and it ended up being phantom pains đ
No it only happens I just say Zeus, even in my head this never happened before
Its more like a grasp (light squeeze)
i would still check it out tbh
i mean i get anxious when i say a deity's name, could it be anxiety or worry??
yeah it could definitely be something mundane
personally if you dont want to thats up to you but plz take safety into account
i have a headache and theres a pressure on my chest so im wondering if
A: it's a deity
B: i need to eat & drink water
C: it's both
(i'm gonna eat food and drink water LMAO hydration reminder for everyone!!!!!!!!)
both /lh, esp since winter is starting, people tend to get dehydrated, lightheaded and get migraines
my med school knowledge is coming in handy đŞ
ooooo
I mean both deities I worship are related to Zeus, and I have never had my heart squeeze in any other way sooo, I think its a sign of hatred for him??
im dizzy so. im gonna. eat. also i think i have anemia so that might be part of it idk
i mean. Zeus is just very intimidating to a lot of people. things that seem hateful from him may just be him and not hateful
I haven't read enough to actually know if Apollo or Calliope actually like zeus
btw love the convo on the dieties very wholesome 
though does anybody have any info or experience on Lady Death (Santa Muerte)?
i got a cool pendant in mexico and recently have been thinking of spirit work as I'm doing ancestor work at the moment and apparently my mom and her family get followed by ghosts often
I always loved the idea of Lady Death since i was young so i want to start now that im an adult and can practice more freely :>
i'd suggest that you ask your deities or Zeus!! ^^
Got it đ
i have some basic info on santa muerte! just like offerings and stuff if you're interested
Zeus is usually intimidating but not hateful most of the time for me personally & i work with Zeus as well as Apollo at the same time & never had any problems, but idk about Calliope & Zeus. it could be mundane, & you only notice it when you mention Zeus because you already think it's magical & not mundane if that makes sense?
đ very interested! /lh
please don't ping me but ofc ! i'll make a list to send to this channel rn
ah sorry but of course! thank you :]
also on the topic of Zeus i havent given him offerings in a while so im wondering what you guys suggest for him? im gonna look at resources for it too but i like looking at /upg & /spg offerings or devotional acts too because my deities usually like those most of the time
(ngl most of our lists are upg/spg heavy tbh đ )
LMAO FAIR
ushhshs let me see
no, but theres the hellenic cheat sheet and vetting for him
i thought there was whoops
nah thats all good i just couldnt remember if we had one or not đ
so there are various petitions that can be made, specifically with candles if i remember correctly.
- white : gratitude, purity, cleansing
- red : love and passion, emotional stability
- gold : economic prosperity, success, prosperity
- dark yellow : health
- green : justice, unity with loved ones
- black : baneful magic (or the cleansing of it)
- blue : wisdom, health
and there are offerings
- general : flowers, perfume, florida water, money, incense
- food : apples, bread, candy
I have only sensed two gods or at least found them but I have a funny feeling that im being watched by multiple gods, and im like a game show to them. Its probably not even true but it would make a good story
hmmm i might add that somewhere if i can figure out where
deities prob
leon your the deities resources star apparently
thank you leon!!

Would be funny if they find us entertaining lol, like a tv show
RAHAHAHAH
thank you 
yuh thats posted somewhere
for zeus, i like offering him fizzy fruit drinks, and likes gummies sometimes. but the ones that don't stick to your teeth. he likes popsicles too. i'm pretty sure he's a fan of caramel from what he tells me, and golden / yellow apples. honey is also similar to ambrosia, which he enjoys. i find he also likes regular pebbles and rocks
for devotional acts, cleaning up the community and doing things like studying (especially when it comes to the law and grecoroman history).
i think in the old hellenic channel
OOOOO thank you
Offerings Zeus:
â˘Statues of him
â˘Gold/golden items
â˘Oak or pine branches, pinecones
â˘Wine
â˘Statues/depictions of white bulls, lambs, rams, eagles, horses
â˘Olives
â˘Depictions/art/symbols of lightning or thunderbolts
â˘Rainwater
â˘Crowns
â˘plants, herbs, and/or flowers like carnations, mint, dandelions, clover, sage
â˘Milk
â˘Crystals/gemstones like lapis lazuli, blue or yellow sapphires
â˘White or yellow diamonds
â˘Honey
â˘Naturally shed eagle feathers
found that too
apples feel weird on my teeth when i bite them & i wouldnt wanna waste them by them not being consumed, so would like apple pies and stuff work? if not thats fine ill just ask him later :3
hehehehehehe thank you :3
i find that he likes pies, yes.
i'm asking him right now and he's like "yeah i like pies"
he likes meat pies too
ooooooo
thank you!! :3 i might offer him pie sometime
i wonder hed lime caramel apples or if he prefers them separate
like*
omg he loves caramel apples
no worries !
im omnist, so im interesting in learning about more deities so if you work with or worship any deities, angels, demons, etc,. you guys can drop the name & i'll add them to my notes app to research later :3 i'll research but not work with or worship any that are closed though!!
i wish to expand my knowledge >:3
or like any facts or anything you like about a certain deity
Hey guys have you ever tried talking to multiple gods in one pendulum, and if so are you allowed to bounce and forth or end a conversation with one god and ask for the next?
I use the same pendulum for almost all my deities. I usually try to cleanse said item in between each if I'm talking to them one after the other but that is bc I like them being able to have a clean slate to work with
We uses to use one pendulum for 2 entities and what we did for them was separate what their yeses and nos looked like so we could tell them apart
We generally couldn't bounce back and forth, but we could end the conversation with one and then continue on to the other. They have similar domains and energy so we're usually ok with not cleansing it with them. Others, however, we do try to cleanse in some way between each entity
Does anyone happen to know what deity might send pink bubblegum smells as their way of saying âhowdyâ? I know thatâs probably such a broad area, and I plan on pulling cards, but Iâd be curious to know if anyone has a similar experience with a deity reaching out + that bubblegum smell.
First instinct is Aphrodite, but that could just be our brain associating her with the color
^ would agree but also Deities that are associated with maybe youth?;
I was gonna say maybe Eros
I think cat is someone that works with the Norse pantheon
but it might be Greek đ
Freyja
Iðunn
Nanna
Bladur??
idk im not great in norse mythology i was jus searchin them up and seeing if they hve similar
attachments?
idk the word
yeah Idunn would be most associated with youth in the norse pantheon
hebe is the greek goddess of youth
oh yeah!!
personally with the pink bubblegum spell, i think is aphrodite, eros, eos
i'm sort of getting eos vibes from this for some reason too lol
thank yâall, Iâm going to look into these leads and will let yâall know! 
To the witches who work/worship Lucifer ...whats he like?
Hes great!

can i pray to hestia only infront of the candle and only to things her domain controls?
no, you can pray to her wherever, and about anything
thanks leon!
Oh ok I was wondering if he was chill or stuff other people picture when they hear satan
Well like Satan and Lucifer are different beings so they aren't really the same 
To me he's really nice and helps me a lot
Really? I thought they were the same guy with multiple names
Nah Satan is the King of Hell while Lucifer is a fallen angel that became the prince of hell.
Satan was always in Hell while Lucifer was sent there.
#1114061112816717865 message this explains it better
My experience + other people working with Antinous: He is a difficult God to worship as he won't show any signs if he isn't interested in working with you, it doesn't even feel like he is there, that is what some other users are also mentioning as well.
Overall a very versatile God, you can worship him as Bacchus Antinous, Beleus Antinous, Apollon Antinous, Hermes Antinous, Osiris Antinous, and much more!
would hecate be mad bc if i leave my door open my dogs eat her offeringsđ
I don't think so!
yayyy
hecate's associated with dogs so that could even be part of the offering tbh??
LMAO Mara once jokingly said that Hekate sends dorito to steal Hades' altar stuff bc they have (/j) beef
LMAOO
YEA in lots of animist societies animals eating the offerings is a way of moving it into the other world and the gods claiming them!!! esspecially if itâs an associated animal
you guys had your gods talk to you in your head right?
And if so does it usually happen when you start contacting them?
usually i would have to work on my clair senses yeah, but if you have then i dont see why not
Yeah if you have your clairsenses developed that's similar to how it goes- it varies from person to person. Like we usually have to "tune in" in order to hear it, but sometimes I also just get little one off things
Also another question: how do I do a protection spell that keeps me away from tricksters that doesnât require buying/getting anything or do I have to do that?
I mean a lot of the herbs and spices in your kitchen cupboard are good for protection, but I also like to point out that trickster spirits are almost entirely a creation of witchtok so you can just choose not to believe in them and then not have that problem /gen
^^
What-
yeah, trickster spirits are smthn you can choose to believe in, it orginally gained fame cuz of witchtok
Yep! The tricksters that pretend to be deities and whatnot have little to no historical backing so a lot of witches just kinda choose to not believe in them, myself included
The closest approximation would be trickster archetype deities like Loki or Hermes
Or just generally malevolent spirits
plus i personally don't believe any spirits can imitate a deity since the entire interaction would be completely off and i dont believe that they can encompass the way deities just are (/spg)
Deities are really hard to properly imitate which is also why most anything pretending to be a specific can be found out through vetting- the practice of asking the entity questions about their mythology (and sometimes past interactions with you) to see if they get everything correct
its also why we vett a deity before worshipping/working, since thats very important to many people/practices
This. I have had several interactions by voices popping into my head, and I just know who it is. That feeling. Usually happens in the showerđ¤Ł
im thinking of reaching out to odin tonight. how would you guys go about it? he's very different from any god ive worked with previously and im not sure if a simple hello would get his attention
I would start showing interest (if you arenât already) in the arts, knowledge, etc. I spent time learning about different things since heâs the god of wisdom. Maybe you can offer a piece of poetry or literature or something along those lines, and kind of just speak to him. His energy was a little bit intimidating when I first started working with him but the energy has turned into an older stern (but caring) authority figure if that makes sense, so naturally I tried to keep myself âprofessionalâ I guess until I felt the need not to?
I know not everyone works with or sees Ăðinn in the way I do but thatâs just my personal experience. As Iâve worked with him Iâve become less informal but obviously still respectful if that makes sense
But youâre right, I didnât do a simple âhelloâ when we first started working but rather kept it a bit more formal than I normally act with other entities.
this is very helpful, thank you đ i did reach out to him through tarot and was basically told that he's willing to work with me if i put in more research and lifestyle effort first, which makes a lot of sense being that it's him. what's unusual is that i found a stick in my tarot box before the reading, so i googled deities associated with sticks, and it said odin? but i couldn't find why?
OH im so sorry for the ping!!! i didnt check beforehand, my apologies
This is all upg but I know that he really enjoys when I learn other types of divination â sticks / bone divination too!! so that also could be a pointer for you as well if youâre trying to figure out what to research next. maybe different divination methods deriving from Norse culture? 
itâs okay!! 
i wonder if that possible reference to other divination methods + his instructions to research more could be him hinting at learning runes? since odin seems to really like that LMAO
i dont own any but i'll def start my research haskjhej
what other experiences/upgs do you have with odin if i may ask? im pretty new to him but very interested
hmmmm lemme rattle off some things,
- idk why but he smells like the sea and pages of a loved book
- appreciates knowledge and arts in any forms, not just witchy or Norse related. anything thatâll make you more knowledgeable than you were the day before
- he likes it when I have his altar close to thorâs
- the color blue
- runes, bone tossing, or oracle cards: bonus points if you have anything that resembles ravens on any divination tools
- spending time outside and letting your mind wander is another I encountered a lot when I first began working with him
hmmmmm
OH I read books as devotional offerings for him!! 
thank you!!!
of course idk if thatâll help but thatâs just me rattling things off, Iâm sure Iâll be more helpful whenever Iâm more awake 
its very helpful 
if you have any specific questions pls feel free to ping me or DM me 
may i friend you so i can find you in my list?
totally fine if not /gen /pos
oh ik it's not a heathen practice but there is Celtic runes which are based on tree types that might be interesting? #1114061678963855410 message
i'll take a look when i can!


How do you work on your Clair senses? Is it from mediating or something else?
meditating while focusing on them should help? like mediating while focusing on being able to smell / asking a deity to give you a scent, would be a good way to get your clairaliance (the smelling one idk how to spell)
Ok great!
LOL just saw this but yes!!
Heyyy another question from little confused me, can you try to reach gods for favors by giving them offerings? Has anyone done that before?
yup ! i've done that before :)
yeah sometimes iâll do a quick lil prayer if i have nothing to offer, then later ill give an offering in thanks
Hi hi, Iâve been feeling called to do the Deity Dossier in the Divination Resources and I got these. Any idea who it could be? I was thinking either Iris or Aphrodite?
Or maybe Eros(?)
hm so the spades suit is actually linked to the swords suit which doesn't fit with the signification card imo? Since that's about like miscommunication/trouble in relationships ect.
can I ask where you get your card meanings from?/genq
Cardarium?
hmm Ive never heard of that site but lemme see
ah okay
so the "change of plans" thing is based on the Conservative British cartomancy readings, where as most other places relate it to the rider waite pip meanings (where swords would equal spades)
the 3 of spades is also a water related card (based on Classical American cartomancy)
these are all the different meanings for the same card
I think my issue (not really an issue) but more like something I would try to do in the future is try to match up which meanings you are going to be using for your whole spread if that makes sense?
So like if you are going with the rider waite meanings stick with those, if your using the British meanings stick with those simply bc that would probably make your readings come out a bit more coherent since you aren't pulling meanings from a bunch of sources
(I hope that makes sense!!)
bc if you look at the origin of the Queen of Diamonds card the "jealous woman" thing comes from French cartomancy where as your first one (the 3 of spades) comes from British cartomancy
Ah alr! I usually use the main one that pops up in the beginning
Ohhhhh that makes sense now! Thanks /gen
yeah! so if we are sticking with British cartomancy Queen of diamonds means brillant gifted woman!
which if you take the first card (I'm pulling from the water thing of the American meaning) might be Aphrodite? but that's mixing with meanings
(also that site is really interesting)
I was gonna redo the spread but Iâm kinda worried get different results leading to another deity
hmmm đ¤
well I think if you go with just one meaning set you could just like translate the cards meanings into the new one
so say you go classic American:
1 something with water
2 time; within a week
3 talkative woman
etc
that way you aren't repulling and the cards still relate to the deity
Trueeeeee ty /gen
Itâs (ig the word im looking for is interesting??) because I was talking about the Greek Pantheon with a friend yesterday and they mention that theyâre an Aphrodite devotee
Hey whatâs the best deity you can ask for revenge?
in heathenry it would be Vidarr, in hellenism I think Nemesis is the goddess of vengeance & revenge
ye! theres also Eris (greek) who is the goddess/daimona of like contention/strife? who could help
Poena (greek) is the personification of vengeance and retribution
Alastor (greek) is the spirit of family blood feuds
there are a bunch of other deities, such as adrasetia, arae, erinyes, glaistig, prxidice, petbe, and vali who are all associated with revenge or vengence (i'm pretty sure all of these are all either grecorman, scottish, egyptian or norse)
np!
Hey does it usually take a while for gods to talk to you? Like I haven't heard any from my gods, and the other communication is from a pendulum so my mind is starting to drop to the "i've lost my mind" mindset (again, this happens often)
I mean I've sort of sensed them from time to time, like for example body tingles, and felt like someone was behind/beside me but I always have doubt in my mind that I am imagining all of it 
my senses arent very good so typically i never hear my gods around unless i initiate some form of communication, usually tarot, so that's totally normal and doesn't mean they've disappeared đ¤ˇââď¸
For us, not really, but we're also usually the one initiating conversation unless they have something to say
An offering I did the other day I really liked
pretty 
i want deity altars so bad 
i'm a closet witch so i can't do anything like altars n stuff
closest thing i have is like. a shelf type thing with dolls that the entities in this house seem to like đ
i'd love to make ones for Aphrodite & Loki & Persephone & Apollo bshakssm
You could do something digital like pinterest or a private discord
Hestia is giving me sm family time and im so happy she is :D
Another for hecate.. I really don't give her enought attention đ
Does anyone else feel conflicted when they think about reaching out to a deity outside of their usual pantheon? (I usually only work with Heathen deities but was thinking of expanding to maybe Aphrodite) I feel a weird feeling in my gut, but I'm also used to being monotheist because of my upbringing so working with dieties outside of that already feels weird
I've also been thinking about reaching out to Cernunos (spelling?)
oooh nice! I feel like if you come from a "one god is the only god" sorta place moving from one pantheon to adding more can def feel weird.
I think you could maybe think of the fact that the gods you worship won't mind you adding another if that helps?
Thanks for the advice đ
yeah of course
Is there different methods for reaching out to deities of different pantheons or can I just use my usual divination methods?
hm I use my usual, but there may be cultural divination methods!
I'll try my usual first then đ
Thinking....
I might just start working with only aphrodite
But I feel guilty
Idk I just don't feel as connected with my other gods as I do with her
that's fair! you could always come back to them later or worship the pantheon as a whole while focusing mainly on her
Idk I feel so bad đ
that's fair! it's definitely not an easy thing to decide on /gen
Maybe I'll just their altars in storage for now đ
you could also pick some pieces out to keep on a combined altar if youd still like to view them 
Same here
Whenever I see two or more deities I want to work with/worship I feel like I have to choose only one

I made a lil area for my divination stuff and it's all pink and cute.. I dedicated that area to her and I'm hoping to use divination to communicate with her more
This is it so far
That looks wonderful! So cute and pretty!
cuteeee
What exactly is Aphrodite's domain?
love, beauty, femininity, wrath & war mostly. the list goes on though
Shes also known as a sea goddess as she was born from seafoam
Thanks for the info y'all. I'm thinking of reaching out to her but wanted to make sure I understood the full domain.
U can always ask me about worshipping her I'm happy to help
Thank you so much!
You got this đ
So, got new information about my gods that have been answered from my pendulum
Ooh /interested
Turns out I am being watched by two gods, Apollo and Calliope. And even, they take turns watching me. (It's Calliope's day I've been informed)
Who would have known đ¤ˇ
OOO neat!
Who is Calliope? /genuine
a muse I believe
Hello there
Does anyone here work with Eris ?
It's kinda hard to find more information about her.
Any help whould be appreciated đ
What is a muse? (My only context is Disney's Hercules)
|| took me way to long to write that ngl ||
we have a whole eris association list!
Really??!!
Where?
( I can't navigate discord at all đđ)
essentially muses are like: (in Greek and Roman mythology) each of nine goddesses, the daughters of Zeus and Mnemosyne, who preside over the arts and sciences.
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Thanks for explaining that! I'm learning so much today and I'm very grateful â¤ď¸ (platonic appreciation heart)
of course glad we could help!! 
and I believe calliope is the one for eloquence and epic poetry
Ooh that sounds cool!
Calliope is the muse of epic poetry, she is also the oldest of the sisters, also heard she's also a god of song and dance of what I looked up
I believe all the muses are the goddesses of song/dance/the arts but each as a specified domain so Calliope's would be poetry (an art)
Oooh yeah good point
I have a question
I made a tiktok on aphrodite for beginners and some of the devotional acts and offerings are a bit NSFW but I like censored them is it still ok to post it here if I put a disclaimer that some of its for 18+ only
hmm so we don't allow sharing of nsfw content in there server
It's not like explicitly NSFW just has a couple NSFW words.. I could edit them out maybe
you could send through ModMail and the staff could review it and see if it's okay
Oki
Sorry for replying late
But thank you so very much đ
I'm gonna reach out to Aphrodite for the first time!
WOOO that's amazing

Good for u! I hope it goes well (I don't see how not đ ) /gen
It went well and now I have an altar set up
Amazing
WOO!
My other deities shared their pendulum with her bc my other pendulums are missing, so that was nice of Odin
I'm gonna make a upg Aphrodite playlist
As seen on Season 1 Episode 4 of CWâs Containment - âWith Silence And Tearsâ 2016
Now Available on Spotify
âBattlefieldâ - Alt. Version Now Available
iTunes â https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/lover.-fighter.-ep/id1077655971
Spotify - https://play.spotify.com/album/0GjVtfp3cfeH90Yn9CJOEZ?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=op...
that song is 100% on the playlist
On the topic of aphrodite I'm giving her tea again tonight đ she's gonna get so sick of tea but I don't have anything else to offer and it's the best I got lol
NGL I don't like drinks in my room so they just keep getting water đđ
Ya think she'd like hot coco?
oooo yeah
She loves chocolate
Nice!
- you could always ask her
Very good point
I want to give her an apple sometimes but idk if my MIL would be happy about me "wasting" an apple đ
you could eat it in her honor instead of leaving it out
yeah!
I always do food offerings as consuming it in the honour of whomever
I give Lucifer dehydrated apples (apple chips) I made myself! that way I can snack on the rest and it doesn't go bad as quickly!
I love apple chips
The tea I'm offering tonight is strawberry, back tea, cocoa nibs, damiana, rose and honey
Ooh that sounds fancy
It's a blend meant for eros but I think she'll like it alot too
I think deities appreciate whatever offerings they get because people have limited resources and time and energy so they appreciate the aspects given to them
Ye I was always told it's a good offering if it's from ur heart no matter what it is
agree
wait if u put food out for ur dieties wouldnt the food
go bad
and would u have to throw it?
you donât have to leave it out that long, if you want to leave it for them. honestly anywhere from 10 minutes, an hour, overnight. depending on the food it would go bad at different rates. so some people will compost the food, bury it somewhere, or just toss it. itâs really up to the individual
like a piece of chocolate is gonna be different than an apple slice
if i eat it. would they be mad đ
also can deities influence ur behaviours to change??
like how do you mean?
after i started worshipping hestia im more
kind? or caring i guess?? but i never meant to change like that?? idk how to explain it
it could just mean that you've opened yourself to that kind of energy so now you are more comfortable being that way but she's not influencing you more than just being around? if that makes sense
could it be that im just mimic-ing the way the acts around me?
That's possible! But a deity isn't likely to actively change your personality- let alone without your consent /gen
I also have noticed that a lot of people (not all, but a lot) that step into witchcraft often become a lot kinder and more understanding than they may have been beforehand
Ouranic deities don't mind it but chthonic deities don't really like it and it's recommended u burn or bury it for them
That's with hellenic deities at least im not sure about other pantheons
it may be this ngl! thank you for clearing my doubts oli and griffin!
oo thank you kiwi!!
I'm gonna make aphrodite some shitty candles :3
I say shitty cos they'll probs look like turds again
i would also just say that you can ask said deity, since all my chthonic deities are fine with it
cute!! candles are so funky to make
I like making them sm.. it's my favourite devotional project
We haven't made candles in years, but we do currently have the materials to do red beeswax rolled candles
Tbh I don't have much supplies just tealights for wax and a tin on top of a seal wax burner thing lol
Idk if I posted these already but these are others I've made
oh the shell one is so pretty
I might make a tiktok of my aphrodite tea
ooo nice!
Once when I was talking to my goddesses, this was awhile ago when I still worked with hecate.. but I walked away and I heard a loud bang coming from my altar and I looked and nothing was out of place đ
I think they didn't want to stop taking đ
Anything about Celtic deities or even just witchcraft traditions in France and in Bretagne specifically ? Itâs hard to find online đ My fatherâs family is from there
we have https://discord.com/channels/599776551306788874/1114061152515797072 celticism channel (not sure how much is french related sorry)
Yea thereâs not much but thx
Hey has anyone here worked with Lucifer and Jesus? Do they get along? I imagine its a older brother + younger brother dynamic
okay so im abt to go to school, but can i pray to lady hestia in my head rather than out loud
yeah!
thanks!
Bought this dish to do my spells with aphrodite in
I'm gonna fill it with pink salt :3
THATS SO PRETTY
Whooooa
That looks soo cool
It looks lovely
I did another spell with aphrodite :3
So aesthetic!
Salt I made for working with her
Oooo đđđđđ
I love it

I feel bad cos I've left the tea offering on aphrodites altar for a few days
I'm gonna change it and put a new one
I mainly feel bad cos I asked her if she wants it gone and she said yes đ
Just a simple candle offering today
Also I have a question.. can I get messages from aphrodite through pendulum and the alphabet?
I dont see why it wouldnt work, using pendulums to have them spell things out is p common
I tried tarot cos I was told she had a message for me
The message is interesting
I pulled two of wands reversed then asked her to elaborate and then pulled queen of wands
If I'm understanding correctly she's saying I don't love myself enough or I need more attention in my relationship
I'm not sure
She could also be saying Im isolating myself and have no purpose rn
I'm kinda giddy over the queen of wands tho feels nice to hear by itself lol đ
it could also be a bit of all of it?
like bc your not paying yourself enough attention your isolating yourself? and that leads to issues in relationships?
Perhaps
I do struggle with loving myself even tho I do a lot of self love work and I work with aphrodite alot.. it just seems I can't get over it and idk why
it's not always easy that's for sure
^^
I think a lot of it could also be who you tend to surround yourself with and also how you speak about yourself to yourself. I've said this before (in class) but like negative self-talk can affect you mentally by making yourself believe that you are the negative things you're saying about yourself right?
so instead of saying things like oh I'm stupid instead replace that with a more positive kind of connotation as in instead of it being stupid you are just uninformed or you were just learning!
like that is such like a small little thing to think about but I've noticed even in my own personal life that the minute I stopped putting myself down every few seconds with like negative self-talk I would instead try to compliment myself you know.
it also made it a bit easier to get to a confident state of mind
this of course is obviously like a really hard subject to get into though since not all issues stem from places that are nice or even comfortable to think about so like don't do more than youre comfortable with without a professional/gen
RAAA sorry for walls of text đđ
oli essay is always a pleasure
I love learning from oli's essays
/gen
I feel like I annoy people with them đđ
u don't we love them
Big mood oli
Tysm 𼺠I appreciate it
I was looking through my grimoires (I can never finish one and theyâre all in notebooks) and I found one about entities but I stopped before writing about the Goetic Pantheon(??)
Should I? /gen
Iâm not sure if theyâd be considered deities or entities
Deities typically refer to a kind of entity that has their own religion. The goetia is technically based on Christianity so entities fits better imo
I also like to use Deities* to help differentiate between like deities, angels, demons and like spirits or other entities
ye we don't have an entitĂŠs channel tho so like where you would find info would depend on the type
I found the Ars Goetia on a pdf file online
I canât read the handwriting that well
ah yeah it's a pretty old book
Nvm I found it again and itâs written in Times New Roman
I just donât know what it says in the beginning đ
I love how in kids books/movies the fae are seen as cutesy jolly friendly things, and in their actually folklore theyâre ASSHOLES
The only way I've seen faes lore accurate is the labyrinth
Another pretty decent representation of them in media would be Spiderwick. This is because it was literally written by a fae folklorist
The actor that played the twins in the movie went on to play Shaun in The Good Doctor
OH wow my brain never put that together đ
Yeah! He was in a ton of stuff
I'm very tempted to work with Loki but I'm unsure if I could work with multiple deities again
Loki's amazing to work with, but you do what you're comfortable with! you could try worshipping him first then asking to work with them after you get comfortable with it? 
Ive always been very drawn to him but I'm unsure
Idk where to look for info
It would also be my first time worshipping a god outside of the hellenic pantheon
oooooo he was also one of the two first ones i worked with outside of the hellenic pantheon (him & someone else reached out at the same time)
I really don't know what to do đ
the server has offerings & devotional acts & associations
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i can try looking for another yood source for him
good*
Tysmm
I think one thing that you also could do is try to go at it slowly basically learn more about them rather than jumping straight into worship so you can get used to the idea of her being there!
for me, he's usually chill & likes listening /upg(?) & pretty much takes any offering you give him if you mean well. he respects my boundaries in my work (some others have said that they've asked them to stop sending spiders as signs because they have a phobia of them & stuff & he's listened) & he likes a good (or bad đ) joke. that's just all what i've personally seen in my work with him & everyone's deity work is different but :3
oh yeah true!!
some people personally don't feel like worshipping or working with them because of a few different things (chaos deity, mischief deity, etc,.) but for me, they're really kind, understanding, & they make me smile a lot
they also have forbidden me from saying "sorry" or "i feel bad/guilty" when i shouldn't đ not sure if others have had that happen to them with Loki or not though
I've always been drawn to them.. they used to be one of my favourite gods, I even named my dog after him lol
I think that's also a part of just like how you work with them they could be helping you with like confidence as well as like understanding your boundaries
yeah, i've always had a problem setting boundaries but then Loki came in & was like "nuh uh!"
it's like how Aphrodite helps some with their love life but with others she may help with confidence & not letting people walk on you
deities are js different for everyone :3
Lil doodle :3
Nice doodle
i think so!
Totally!
thank you both!! -7
I lit a candle to see if aphrodite was here and the candle was mostly still đ it sometimes got bigger then smaller but it was mostly still đ
well steady can also be a good thing?
I'm not sure
I mean it might just mean that she's not there at the moment
it's not necessarily a bad thing
I mean gods appreciate everything you can do for them!
there's no requirement on how much you get done
I'm still unsure of how to talk to her
I used to talk to her alot when I first started but recently idk what to say
you could just talk to her about your day, tell about the things you are learning any issues you are having things like that!
Sometimes I talk to her when I'm giving here an offering if I'm alone in the room
Like I'll tell her what it is and thank her
one thing that you could do is maybe start like a journal or like a diary for her so that way you can speak to her through that?
you could also view it as like a devotional kind of thing
That's a good idea
I was going to get a journal for prayers n stuff so I might do that
yeah

Does anybody have any good articles or videos on Aphrodite?
would check out theoi.com
plus we have a bunch of stuff on her in #1114061636744007720
I can help if u need anything :3
Ty Oli
Ty for your offer of help, much appreciated
Iâm terribly sorry if this offends anyone in any way
But I feel like
Ok
How do I say this
I grew up Christian and whenever I called upon an angel or studied Goetic Demons it felt more⌠familiar?
Like
I grew up with it so itâs stronger for me?
Idk how to explain it
maybe you just connect with those beings more than you did with g-d
True
Loki & Apollo are now my patroness and patron!! :3
I just made salt for Eris đ
wait Loki's a girl?
some people view loki as genderfluid/agender
i use all pronouns for them
I did not know that, neat
ohhh, the only information I know of Loki is from marvel and from their followers which they keep messing with for pure entertainment
Loki hasn't messed with me, at least not that I've noticed
ah yeah well even in marvel canon loki is canonically gender fluid (Lady Loki)
Cool!
but i believe she also is in Norse canon? or at least kind of implied to be (the whole birthing a horse thing)
Yep!
myths are so fun
OMG wait would the creation story of Athena via forehead also imply Zeus is genderfluid? (mans turned into a damn BIRD so its not like hes not used to it)
It's weird cause Athena kinda came out of his head
But let's also not forget the time he turned into a goose
thats the bird i was referring to (tbf tho i thought it was a swan)
(both terrifying so i think im valid)
white bird with scary demon tendancies? could be either
Also, fun little thing I've noticed: that technically witchcraft (or witchcraft to a normal person's eye) practically proves the existence of gods (if you don't doubt that you're going insane) And I mean all gods, but then you have to realize that there are a LOAD of religions, which some gods being the same god of certain elements. So, then I thought.... the gods have cliques. Like for the example, the sun gods are probably all roommates in the middle of the sun (or the sun realm) probably playing poker (someone draw that)
It was a swan, pretty sure swans are his charming technique.
oh neat! personally with my view of religions and such that gods stick to pantheons and dont interact much outside of it. similar to how the different afterlifes co-exist
There's actually a joke that's been around for a while of the sun gods arguing over who gets to drive the sun chariot each day
good point, good point, could be that too
coin toss for the day
rock paper scissors could also be an option if they don't stop bickering
"Mom said it was my turn with the sun chariot"
"Nuh-uh!"
yea!! in one story he becomes a female horse to distract a stallion from helping to build the walls of asgard which the gods made a sleazy deal on.
in another he transforms into Thorâs (disguised as Freyja) handmaiden. while the text continues to use male honorifics & titles for Thor, it uses female ones for the shapeshifted Loki ^^
OH neat!! i just thought they were like "shes maam coded bc horse birth" not bc of a change in honorifics! thats super cool!
ah ping sorry
Thanks for sharing this knowledge đ
I think... I wanna start to full on worship Persephone 
yeah! i already give her offerings in honor of hades so i want to make her a space!
I have worked a new system with Apollo! I suck at school tests, so I asked Apollo to lead my hand to the answer and it works! I don't get everything right, but hey It's better than getting an F ⨠DREAM TEAM TM⨠đ đ đ
Nice!
So i was talking to someone about loki and i went on a rant but i thought it would be nice to put here and hear yalls imput on what loki has done for you "many people think of loki as a bad guy- someone who dosnt deserve devotees but- thats wrong- loki is a kind god- he teaches you to care for yourself to know how to laugh at your self in a good way- he makes you want to be better for yourself- the chaos he does inflict in your life creates healing "
Weird question but u think Mary would like Ethel Cain ? đ
I want to play music for her and that's the first music that came to mind đ
you could always ask her
Like would I play it then ask her?
I want to make a playlist for her but idk what she likes music wise but maybe I'll just go down the path of music that reminds me of her ?
yeah that could work
I played family tree for her and she seemed to really like it.. I got a pretty strong yes on the pendulum when I asked lol
Makes sense.. it's a song that reminds me a lot of her
thats great!
I'm going through songs that I think she would like and asking her and then adding them to a playlist
oooh that sounds like a great bonding method!
That's good to hear 𼺠I'm trying to bond with her more and build a connection
yeah!
I asked if she liked can't catch me now by olivia Rodrigo and she really wasn't sure đ
LMAO
Im going to make an offering and I asked if she wanted bread.. she said no so I asked if she wanted it with marmalade and it was a yes đ
JAM
Also gave her some grapes :3
Does anyone know any good Apollo offerings (I have no orange juice or oranges and my dad just went to the store and forgot them. Also Iâm in the broom closet)
anything yellow colored! you could also just play him your favorite song on like your phone or something
Oh thanks Oli!!
#1114061252247945320 message this also has a link to an Apollo cheat sheet
which has offerings
also ofc
As a Hyborean Apollon worshipper, I would recommend poems and songs for Apollon, he really likes those stuff.
so I um :)
it's a website that you can make minifigures on
so i did one for aphrodite
(wait this goes in media right)
(mb)
Oh I love hero forge! Also because it's still related to deity stuff, it's fine here
ah alr then
oh so pretty
i also made nyx, persephone and iris(i think)
Nice!!
Heck yeah!
Apollo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
those are so cool!
I feel so bad bc
Iâm focusing on worshipping/working with Aphrodite
But Iâm not focusing on Nyx that much and it feels like Iâm betraying her 
maybe you can have a Convo with her about how you want to branch out to others but you aren't going to be leaving her alone
i am starting off working w/aphrodite and ive done a lot of research but i think shes mad at me because i havent left her offerings in a while and when i did a reading for her i got all reversed đ
them all being in reversed doesn't mean she's mad at you
tbh gods are pretty understanding when it comes to time management and stuff like that
reversed cards don't necessarily mean "bad"
ok haha i mean i just got a lot of neagtive cards and stuff but yeah i tried talking to her and i think shes gernerally mad bevcause i havent heard from her in a while since then
like usually she responds by sending signs but shes been really quiet
well if she feels like you might be busy she may not want to like interrupt you or distract you
gods don't typically get upset for things outside of your control like being busy and stuff
ok ty that makes me feel a lot better
yeah no problem
and if you feel as though the cards are negative you could always cleanse your deck and try again and if they are negative ask her how you can fix the issue
communication is just as important with your deities as it is with people
Apollo told me that we have a father son connection and i was wondering if anyone had any input on that just because iâm curious-
I mean I wouldn't personally label any of my relationships with my deities very parental like simply because of how I have a relationship with my parents
but if you're okay with that kind of label then that's pretty much up to you
I mean it could be a thing of like him seeing you as a son
A lot of people see their deities as parental figures, but that's mostly up to personal taste
well ive always felt really close to him and seeing as that he sees us like that it makes sense
also sorry for the late response i was doing something
also i just have to get this out there just because itâs been no stop iâm my mind but Apollo was trying to warn me about one of the other gods/goddesses i was planning on trying to make some sort of connection with but he was scared to tell me in fear that something might happen to him if someone heard.
well he wasnât telling me donât talk to them just something that if i were to be weary of
i should have worded that better my bad
It's always good to be cautious when interacting with entities at least until vetted so he's not wrong but I'd say it's p uncommon to have something dangerous happen
also i keep feeling like itâs Demeter that heâs possibly trying to warn me about. but thatâs just a guess because when i think about it my head goes back to her
Not me thinking that Aphrodite was watching over me today
It's my parent's anniversary
Maybe a trickster spirit trying to play Demeter?
possibly there is a trickster spirit that likes to mess with me a lot
true
Oh same, Apollo is also sort of my parental figure
Dear Loki followers, I need to write about Norse mythology for school, so I decided to pick Loki. And since you guys know them best I thought I hear from you.
So: what appeals to you about this god?
And what is one interesting fact about Loki
(i'm not a loki follower but i remember something about him turning into a horse at some point)
Husband primarily works with Loki and something that appeals to him about Loki is that when it really matters, Loki's been the nicest deity he's ever interacted with. He can be an ass, of course, but he was there when Husband was struggling and was willing to help
His favorite interesting fact about him is that one of the myths of his birth is that lightning struck a tree and out popped Loki
The drag wedding is a close second
drag wedding?
Yeah! He helped put Thor in drag and acted as his maid of honor in order to help him get his hammer back
omg nice
well i found out who it was. it was ares. apparently apollo and ares have beef đĽŠ
Oop
I need to know the tea
i use text to speech for this whole thing is it all the guards are going to be misspelled and thereâs a couple of grammar issues probably so forgive me on that
sorry yâall i feel asleep HARD. so I was originally talking with a apollo and weâre talking and stuff and I had this list of deities I want nature work with and so I asked him if there was anybody on that list, he would possibly warn me about and he said yes but he was scared to tell me who in fear that he would get backlash for it so I originally thought it was Demeter because whenever I think of question, and what Apollo said, my eyes were just go back to her name on the paper and this was all on Sunday and while I was going down the list of deities for some reason, Aries wasnât on there, so when I realized he wasnât, oh no, I went to go ask him if he was willing to communicate with me and possibly work with me he said yes, really quickly, which was kind of surprising but you know I wasnât going to tell him no so fast forwarding until today when I am trying to go talk with a apollo again, but he said he was busy so I was like oh OK I can go talk to Aries because I wasnât able to talk to him on Sunday because he said he was busy that day so I start talking to him and what not and long story short I find out he was the one that Apollos was going to warn me about because apparently the two I have a conflict because Aries is Aphroditeâs brother and Apollo is in love with Aphrodite and Ares is jealous that Apollo was taking Aphroditeâs attention away from him
hi guys! i was wondering if yall could tell me how you guys got past the âwhat if?â stage of your worship/beliefs. i used to be REALLY dedicated to hellenism but i fell out because i got too caught up in the âwhat if this isnt realâ mentality and want to try again but i struggle really bad to push myself past that point, you know? have you guys had any similar experiences with this or did you all know how you felt from the get go?
I've def had moments lol. My belief has always been "if i think hard enough it is then it is"
Oops i hit enter too early damn
hm well ive always grown up with religion. i was a catholic for a while and then i made the transition.
ive grown up with the idea that even if its not G-d capital G that is there then thats fine but there is something. wither that be the universe, other gods, or etc.
for me even if there ARE no gods, i dont really use my practice for them its for me
I've gone through that question some times during spiritual journey, rn I don't worship gods but I do have my beliefs which require some faith, either way, back when I worshipped and now, my way to answer to that was thinking that even if it may not be real, what I practice/believe is always focused on making me a better person and collaborating to the world around me so even if it wasn't real it still is useful, doesn't hurt anybody and nothing is being lost since I'm not sacrificing anything just improving
- "if i think hard enough it is then thats how it is" which is both good and bad. I'm accepting all religious beliefs because we can't prove the existence or non-existence of any "higher being". So in someway i'd like to think they all exist in their own right- which is also how popculture/media religons can be worshipped
I have grown up and been raised in a lot of different faiths and religions though so thats def had an impact. And it's perfectly okay to question what exactly you believe. Or stay centered on your own ideas as long as you understand just cause its true for you doesnt mean its true for everyone.
this really has opened my eyes so much more you guys thank you for real. i think i used to want to believe that they were real SO BAD that i focused on that more than i did on improving myself, i wanted to believe that something existed so bad that i forgot to believe in myself. really tho guys thank you so much for your answers
I hope you find your spiritual peace 
of course im glad i was able to help in some ways!
its okay to not have it all figured out! Finding your place and enjoying the time is the most important
yall are all the sweetest people ever thank you all
Mary said I needed to wash away some sort of sin and I asked for a clarification
Idk if I'm understanding completely but I do understand cos of pendulum that she wants me to pray more and talk to her but also connect with God
Could it mean anything else ?
Idk if she meant literal sin or just something I'm not doing
it might mean something your not doing?
Ye
you can always pull a clarifier
I get the feeling shes urging me to veil as I've been considering it
Aswell as the other stuff I mentioned
ooo thats super cool! i love veiling
veiling 
I did buy a veil so maybe shes asking me to actually wear it n stuff
lys was summoned
But I'm a bit nervous
why nervous?
I'm worried what others will think
depending on how you start feeling you could pass it off is just wanting to try out a new hairstyle
I know veiling for some people just involves like wearing a bandana
The one I have is like this and I wanted to wear it like that đĽ˛
It's the same but burgundy
that one is super cute!!
try wearing it at home, then on small errands, then work up to wearing it like in the âpublic eyeâ
people are gonna think what they think, but you dont need to care about others
do what makes you comfy
ok so question, does veiling work as just over your forehead like a bandana? i heard some places that itâs fine but others say you must cover the crown of your head for protection.
it kinda comes down to your personal beliefs. for me i need something on my head to feel protected. my go-tos are bandanas or headbands, but i have veiled with earrings before and it worked. i also have some pretty veils that i hardly wear anymore
but yes any method you prefer will work if the intent is there!
alright thatâs great to hear. thank you !
Hats and beanies are also options
ah ok. i probably wonât use those because i low key hate hats
That's fair! I just like to put them out as options in case someone does prefer hats or has more access to them
for someone that doesnât like hats that much i sure do have a lot of them đ
I had my moments like that too but I saw statues and other decorations of Greek Gods and I saw Goetic Demons mentioned in the Bible so I thought âHey if G-d is real then this must be real tooâ
thats what ive been telling myself today since i asked that question!!! đ
after asking that i decided to do a nine spread tarot reading i found in one of these channels to see if anyone was reaching out for me and i think it was aphrodite but im not sure, so im just gonna keep working at it and telling myself that exact thing
Then again I feel like I donât know who my main/matron deity is
Itâs between Nyx, Aphrodite and Iris
Or maybe someone
Else
That takes time!
Idk
oh man i have no idea either
ive always felt a connection to apollo like an IN MY BONES type beat connection but this spread i did was like hammer on the nail sounding like aphrodite
The title of matron/patron is usually given to the deity that you intend to work with for a very long time (often dedicating much of your pracrice to them)
yeah coming from an atheist into religion was kinda hard. cause i wasnât fully atheistic i still believed in the supernatural and such i just wasnât a worshiper. but what i tell myself (and others sometimes) that is hard to deny something that humans have been doing since the beginning of time in every culture everywhere. also why im a polytheistic because since the beginning of time people have always worshiped multiple gods. now no one take a offense because this is my personal belief and i respect all religions. i think the start of monotheism was started because people got lazy. because being honest worshiping multiple is a whole task itself and not all people can handle that so i understand not wanting to worship multiple gods but at least pick and choose not start a whole other religion just because. again just my opinion that i am sharing
It can take a lot of time to get to that place with an entity so I wouldn't stress too much about it if you're just getting into deity work or your practice in general
Also it's hard to say how monotheism started. There's a lot of cultures that have one Deity, but lots of smaller entities or spirits. Not every culture started with a pantheon and then whittled it down over time
well i wasnât stating that as fact because religion is such a complex concept and there is no way to dwindle it down to one word such as lazy but i just meant i think thatâs what went through some minds when either creating a monotheistic religion or joining it
Like
I can be pulled to follow Iris one moment
But pulled towards Aphrodite the next
Idk
how i feel with apollo and also hermes
I work with 6 entities, but there's 2 that make up most of my practice and everyone else has their specific things that they help me with
more so apollo for me though because the pull to him is really strong
Technically 7 if you count G-d
for me i know i am definitely NO WHERE near the working with stage AT ALL but i want to begin to focus on a few to begin worship with them so thats why i did the spread and came to the aphrodite conclusion
It's a Jewish thing! We see the name as holy so we put a dash through it to avoid taking it in vain
but def always had a pull towards apollo too
Other versions you might see are Gd or G'd
hmm interesting. do yâall believe in his (in my case) real name?
We do, but we don't ever use it except educational purposes because of how holy it it. Instead, we have dozens of other names for him
ah ok. thats really fun to know. i love learning about religions especially modern day ones
wait that bring up another question
G-d is actually one that I go back and forth on putting the line in since it's not really part of the Hebrew language. It comes from German for "good"
doesnât the holy book say do not worship anyone but me about him and you said you work with 6 others? gq
my relationship with G-d as an ex-catholic and now a Jewish person is a little bit complicated
I know that like I'm not supposed to idolize anybody in the same way but I also don't tend to put too much worth into a book 
like I guess that might be a little bit shitty of me to say but my entire religion isn't based around what is or isn't said in a book and my relationship with him isn't as blindly stated as one would expect
that's like my personal take nobody else has to agree with me and that's the wonderful thing about religion is that you don't have to agree with the next person, since how you understand and deal with beings in that religion are personal to you
yet we still have wars over religion đ
yeah we have wars over a lot of stuff
getting pulled towards Iris at a moderate pace
There's also lots of polytheistic Jews. It generally comes down to personal preference especially since there's also atheist Jews because it's an ethnoreligion.
The way I see it is that every pantheon exists and my primary worship and work goes to the Jewish angels in my practice, but I have other work I do with other deities outside of my religion, but still as part of my practice
Idk if that makes sense
that makes sense
Basically some of the entities are part of my religion while others are part of my practice since, for me, the two are not mutually exclusive
OHHHH yeah that does make sense like how iâm a hellenist but also i still work with lucifer the light bearer
It's hard to explain lol
my stuff is a bit more complicated since I'm a theistic Satanist is well as being Jewish but I also have like other beings that I worship and work with so it's a little bit complicated
it's hard to make words word when you can barely describe it to yourself
like I just do my practice and I haven't run into issues yet so
and iâm also later on want to look into norse gods/goddess
idk havenât fully decided on that yet
Religiously, I am a Jew and therefor work with Jewish entities (which includes the Jewish version of Satan lol). However, I am also part of a bunch of other cultures that I honor through their deities in my practice. I keep my faith and my practice separate (partially because it's easier for my brain and also because then I'm not really breaking the law since it's not religious, but rather cultural)
This conversation has definitely helped me figure out how to word those thoughts and feelings, though, so thank you
thank you for answering my questions i had
Of course! I love answering questions
I feel like Iris would be connected to pigeons
(Hear me out)
They were used as message carries and they have iridescent feathers :)
i can see it
I also feel Hermes for the message stuff 
meh he already gets the hawk, he canât have two birds /j
he's HOARDING the birds/j
you know whatâŚ. hermes fs is a bird guy /headcannon like he goes birding and knows all the bird calls
do u think he can do the bird calls
I feel like he's one of those guys that like carries the bird book around or will be like oh do you hear that that's a so and so kind of bird
YEAH FS
So I don't worship saint Micheal like I don't have an altar for him but is it still ok for me to call on him for help with protection and spells
in my opinion yeah
imo yeah you don't have to worship to work with
that's personally why I view them separately
I've been considering worshipping him but I really don't have the space đ
i mean thereâs some gods that i donât actively worship but in my religion is still perfectly ok to call on someone else for something
you can also make a "general offering" plate that you pull out to give offerings to those you don't worship
I was asking cos I know when it comes to protection n stuff he doesn't mess around đ
Ye that's what I was thinking đ¤
i personally just do a devotional act for them if i ask them for something
Perhaps when I get my new shelves I'll try and make a small altar
What is associated with saint Micheal
Like crystals, herbs, plants, animals etc
Even items
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wait like st micheal the archangel?
bc lowkey thats all that shows up đ
if its the archangel: #1114061595040022528 message
Ye the archangel đ
bet that is a link to a whole list we have on him
Tysmm
yeah np!
When it says toys what type of toys does it mean
Anything or ones that resemble stuff associated with him?
hmmm not sure? i didnt write the list but maybe both?
I asked the holy Trinity for help with charging and cleansing my divination tools
pretty!!
lol nice meme
Me begging Tyche for some wealth vibes: 
Dionysus freely giving me chaotic energy: 
Me placing a cup of water and a piece of chocolate on Mary's altar: 
"God is a woman" is officially on my Aphrodite playlist
yeahhhh
Omg them! /pos
which gods would yall consider ones to ask for protection at protests?
for hellenism i think of ares, zeus, and hermes
Athena! she's the goddess of war and strategy!
was thinking of her too!! possibly like nemesis??
It would depend on the protest I think. The first one that came to my mind was Loki for any lgbtqia+ related marches.
ooo super true!
YEAH! Eris is also a good one! Goddess of discord and strife!
I am just now listing off all the goddesses I've done lists for đ
noted!! am gonna do an offering and protection spell tomorrow so more the merrier
also I guess if I'm doing like angels Michael (đ/j)(this is my one sided beef w Micheal appearing)
and then I guess for like demonic beings probablyyyyy Satan? As like the Leader of Rebellionâ˘ď¸
Ooooo Satan's a really good one for sure
ye
yeah!!!
I was wondering, is Aphroditus a epithet of Aphrdoite or her child? I've read different opinions on the subject.
Aphroditus is another name for Hermaphroditus iirc who is a child of Hermes and Aphrodite
So tbh im scared of getting into working with dieties bc i feel like ive done so much things wrong that could be judged or smth by them. Every time i think of starting with one i get scared like idk what to do đ
the def won't judge you.
a lot of deities are pretty understanding especially when it comes to people that are beginners they understand that you're going to be making mistakes because that's pretty much the only way you can learn.
you can also just like talk it out with them and explain your side to them!
Yeah but my intrusive thoughts i feel are way too intrusive, i feel like it would be weird đ
MY BRAIN SHOULDNT GO BRRRR
Like i js feel scared to but i want to
well intrusive thoughts are thoughts that you don't act upon in any sort of capacity that's why they're called intrusive
I do think though that if you explain your situation to them and you let them know that your thoughts are only thoughts not things that you're going to act upon they're going to be understanding
I also think that if you grew up in a predominantly Catholic household it's kind of hard to separate yourself from the fear of G-d kind of mindset that a lot of people end up growing up with
not all gods act in the way that we are taught the Christian G-d does
Im not catholic, my stepdad was raised one but he never preached any of that to me or my sisters because he himself was a delinquent kid
I mean even without being raised Christian, it can be really easy to develop that mindset since it's all over the place
I think even still though it's pretty ingrained in a lot of Christian ideology that you need to be afraid of the beings that you worship
which slips into never being able to make a mistake bc "they will smite you"
I had went to church in fourth grade for a while and read the bible with a teacher and other students, but ive never had any thoughts about being judged too much by god. Every now and then im like 'im going to hell' though đ
well I mean you can't go to hell if you don't believe in it
not all pantheons work the same way
She doesnt visit much
please be sfw
I'm also of the mindset that every religion exists.
and with those religions what you believe in is where you end up going in your afterlife
so like the people that believe in heaven and hell they go to heaven and hell
I believe in everything, my one sis believes in mothing and my other sister isnt around much so idk what she believes in
I also believe everything exists, but because Hell isn't part of my religion, I know I canât go
Im also trying to think of a good deity to even start with
I would say find something that you're interested in and go from there
I started off with Hades cuz I was a major Percy Jackson fan
We have some lessons how how to interact with entities and also different types here
#1114061502744371290 message
(even tho I was a Posideon Kidâ˘ď¸)
Lol
(YEAAAA shameless Griffin promo)
The new show is good on disney + but IM SO MAD SINCE ITS JUST STARTING THERES ONLY 5 EPS
We started with Hades and Apollo and I, specifically, still work with them even though the system as a whole no longer does
We currently work with some angels and also some deities
I still work with Hades. I now have a patron with Lucifer, and a HUGH list of beings I worship/work with
huge* đ
Azrael is my patron, but I also work with Samael, Lugh, and pop culture entity, Thanatos, and Macaria
I feel like starting with aphrodite, but idk
pop culture deities đŤśđŤśđŤś
I was also reached out to by another angel, but I have to see what it was that one wanted
Aphrodite is a great option!
Aphrodite is really lovely she also has like a bunch of Epithets !!
I love working w her
Like idk why but she js feels like a good option
That's fair! We have tons of information on her as well so you'll have lots of ideas available
go w your gut! if it doesn't work out you at least tried 
Mhm
yeah... so much on her
like at LEAST 3 lists đ
I think that was the Aphrodite workshop that bee did???
personally I would probably start off with worshiping then building up to a working relationship I know that Griffin goes over that in their entities workshops so I would check those out!
Ok thanks
they linked to them here
Has anyone ever had a crush on their deities? Just curious because I cringingly had, with a pyschopomp and a personification.
Well Godspousing is a thing (you are in a relationship w your deities) so it's not like unique
How to know if you are in a relationship?

