Fist-Based Augments (accessory slots)

[wispy crow]

Brass Knuckles
Increases the damage of punch attacks.

Weighted Cuffs
Punches knock enemies back further.

Vital Points
Punches have a chance to slow the enemy.

Sleight of Hand
Punching an enemy may make them drop some of their loot early.

As much as i and others want a fist-based class, i think we need to accept that it just wouldn't work well without becoming not-really-that-fist-based. This is my suggestion for a different way to give some attention to bare-handed fighting! I personally don't care for most of the accessory slot augments, so to me these would be a very welcome alternative!

[hearty frost]

I sort of like this idea, giving the option for a fist build while not having a whole new class that might not offer much changes

[cedar mango]

Brass knuckles would pair concerningly well with Tearing Spikes on flail lol

But the crit build for sword already exists, so why not 🤷

[graceful fractal]

It would be cool if there was a relic for fists "that show a red glow. Once you hit the red glow it is considered as a crit and/or extra damage

[jovial elm]

ironstrike

[graceful fractal]

cough cough yes

[errant knoll]

I think it would be better if sleight of hand had a chance to drop extra loot so you'd have an incetive to punch enemies. Just getting it early wouldn't really do much cause as of rn punching an enemy would just be more risk for the same reward you'd get for playing it safe

obviously it'd be small, like a coin or two and sometimes a key, but just something to reward a risker fighting style

[wispy crow]

Hmm it's tricky because i feel like that could easily throw the balance heavily in that one augment's favour, everyone would prefer it over anything else.
I do get that Sleight of Hand on its own isn't super useful though, i myself always make sure to kill all enemies anyways but i figured maybe people with a different playstyle (those that run ahead and skip killing enemies) would appreciate it?

[errant knoll]

Idk how people who skip enemies could appreciate it if you're gonna waste time shaking down enemies for money

Most people who skip enemies do it to save time

[wispy crow]

They still hit them away on their way through

Could also be good for monkey mode but it would indeed be super risky with how the current player hitbox is 😬

I was considering something like more loot when i first wrote it up but i also wanted to be careful that the fist-based augments wouldn't be guaranteed better than all the existing accessory augments, i suppose maybe as a drawback it could lower your bare-handed damage a bit? Because when you "pickpocket" someone you aren't exactly being violent about it haha

[errant knoll]

I dont think it should have a downside if all it's gonna do is give you a coin an extra hit or two early

Like why punch something to death for the same reward as safely killing it from across the room?

Maybe it could JUST be extra coins on a spare chance

Like a real shakedown type situation

[wispy crow]

That's alot better than any of the other accessory augments in the game

[errant knoll]

A couple coins to reward a riskier play style isn't gonna break the game

[wispy crow]

If your bare-handed damage was weaker that might work more in your favour actually, keeps them alive longer for more hitting them, could be handy if you're desperate for a few more coins for shopping or something before leaving a floor

[errant knoll]

True....

I'd say that's a healthy medium