#Crusader's Ardament, the support class

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thick lintel
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This is just a rough draft as it was a random thought that spiraled out of control, but if any of these ideas can be used in the future I'd love to see it.
I can type out all I wrote if anyone has trouble reading my handwriting. Just let me know if I should.

soft surge
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  1. Support is hell to balance.
  2. Healing is op in pre ng, and useless in 3 and onwards.
  3. Multiplayer isn’t the main mode, single player is.
spare kettle
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Basically just rehashed what box co. Said but I'm going to ignore that because I'm evil

thick lintel
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bright zinc
# spare kettle Supports, and by extension classes that heal anybody including themselves, are n...

I believe Kemi mentioned that the combo could also heal the user during solo runs and he made it balanced to where it takes up some sort of mana and time to heal someone or themsleves.

The combo is also focused on close range through punches rather than strikes like the sword or mace. Though it does feature long range for obvious reasons.

I'll work on polishing the idea but I do think its fairly balanced and possible in game

spare kettle
indigo charm
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No combo should have easy access to self healing imo. It undermines the difficulty of the game as a roguelike

spare kettle
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what the fart guy said

slender ibex
spare kettle
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i would he's a chill guy

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i wouldn't be where i was without him

bright zinc
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there is plenty of drawbacks?
You become helpless when healing self or others
you must charge the healing mana through killing enemies
and you use more mana upon healing self
not to mention that the bar would be empty at the beginning of a delve

indigo charm
bright zinc
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i believe a support class would be fun and useful

spare kettle
indigo charm
# indigo charm

If you dont wanna listen to me, a dev literally said it themself

thick lintel
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I can still balance the weapon myself, this is good feedback but please don't devole into just fighting in my replies-

spare kettle
thick lintel
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Noooo ;-;

slender ibex
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What an unfunny joke

spare kettle
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I'm the target audience of all of my jokes and I think it was pretty funny

spare kettle
thick lintel
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I would still love to have some sort of weapon that isn't exclusively to help oneself, multiplayer is becoming more and more apparent as the game goes on. The weapon can even work differently if used in solos vs multiplayer! This was a idea made in like literally 15 minutes. I will continue to work on it when I'm not swamped with college work

thick lintel
indigo charm
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Theres definitely a way to create some form of compromise

spare kettle
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or ig force feeding food to people

indigo charm
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Freezing Winds for Tome and Wand is a great example of a “support” strategy

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Even though it mostly benefits the user

spare kettle
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remember, you can ALWAYS support the team by killing everything, they can't hurt you if they're dead! slime

thick lintel
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Yeah, we'll see what can be done as the game develops. I can rework the weapon to two versions. One for a healer class if it ever becomes an option in game, and one that acts like the rest as a resource management burst damage weapon.

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I do think having a mana bar that allows for heavy burst damage could be cool to work with

spare kettle
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mana is cool yeah

indigo charm
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Again, the devs dont plan on adding support classes

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Weapon combos are about playstyles, not team roles

thick lintel
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I'll just keep it for myself then

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I like making things

slender ibex
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Do don't, keep putting your suggestions on here

bright zinc
indigo charm
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??

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Its just the support aspect I’m talking about

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Its not something that the game needs

slender ibex
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Negative nancysss

spare kettle
spare kettle
thick lintel
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I was honestly considering that

spare kettle
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being a hater comes with the occupation here

bright zinc
thick lintel
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slender ibex
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So immature

bright zinc
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You're not being funny

spare kettle
thick lintel
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Dang I'm blind

spare kettle
spare kettle
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have fun

bright zinc
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There's a difference between being mean in a channel meant to be mean and being mean to someone who doesn't deserve it💔

spare kettle
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regardless of being evil or not I still don't agree with the suggestion

bright zinc
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Okay then leave💔
You already shared your opinion, that's enough

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I'm not entertaining this further

spare kettle
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I'm not done sharing!
I'm feeling generous

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disregarding the healing I think a mana system would be pretty cool

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but I feel like it was kind of already done with the uh

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book and wand yeah

thick lintel
spare kettle
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also does it have a means of ranged attack without the mana? Sorry if any of these are redundant the lighting on the image is kind of sketchy

thick lintel
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It doesn't.

spare kettle
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doesn't require mana? if that's the case, good

thick lintel
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The normal pulse attack/orb is gonna be reworked to not use mana. Or Faith as I'd like to call it. But the charging of the pulse, AOE, and any other attacks that will cause the burst dmg play style I was going for will

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Faith can also maybe be restored faster by killing enemies or dealing damage with punches

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Maybe

spare kettle
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ooooh what if the gauntlets let you control rocks and you could punch them at enemies or swing around pillars of stone

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kinda like uhhh
what was it called

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quake

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(the vr game)

thick lintel
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Hmmmmm, that could maybe be the third attack!

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I think that'd take the most Faith out of the bar

spare kettle
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eh, mixing all of them together would kind of lose any coherence

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like why is the holy puncher class throwing rocks like an aggravated chimpanzee

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just doesn't fit too well together (which is rich considering the most recent weapon combo but shhhhh)

thick lintel
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What about a holy sword? Kinda like the ghosts make

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Could be a good crowd control move

spare kettle
thick lintel
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I'll workshop it

spare kettle
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🎉

soft surge
spare kettle
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gang.

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are you fr.

soft surge
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Mb :<

spare kettle
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sure they got a little defensive but trying to drag them back into this is not warranted 😭

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if beniac is actually after you he's got a reason