#Standardize Bingo

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ionic jasper
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Or hard reset obviously

pale vale
devout onyx
ionic jasper
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I thought of it

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but its a low hanging fruit

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had to go for the bit one instead

devout onyx
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oh i am always low hanging fruit i dont do high brow

ionic jasper
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well thats why you're last and im first

carmine vigil
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That's the week 1 winner you're talking to

ionic jasper
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I never mentioned the context

pale vale
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So good news, unfortunate news, and bad news. Good news is that I have a way to keep the vanilla seed link around even after I update the generator for the Ilia stuff. The unfortunate news is that in this effort to not have to re-plando everything, the settings string will not be the same-ish (but if you don't care about that then cool). The bad-but-not-really-bad news is that the vanilla seed should work with future dev updates up until the point we add more checks which is fine because I was going to do the rupeesanity stuff last for 1.3 since it just takes time and gives the other features time to simmer and get tested. So woo

half escarp
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good morning it's 5pm time for botw Wicked

ionic jasper
ionic jasper
devout onyx
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yeah i think ill be skipping botw after seeing jeez and spicy, but i wanna do more normal bingos

quasi trench
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This sorta was what I said about the weekly thing

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People can post their times individually, since most often timezones can make it quite hard to plan

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Most people live a life aswell

devout onyx
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you dont need dcs to kill aphantom zant right

carmine vigil
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You only need single claw

devout onyx
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cool good

devout onyx
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great spin is final skill that requires hidden vilalge right

carmine yarrow
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yes

devout onyx
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fuck

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having great spin in the middle of my board is cancer

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and 10 hearts total next to two of my tears

pale vale
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Dev generator is updated. Let me know if any of the settings are wrong for the vanilla seed

ionic jasper
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Will do

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I'ma be updating it anyway for the quest line so

half escarp
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@ionic jasper do you already know how you’re gonna set the quest like for the vanillazer seed?

quasi trench
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Recently i had "Open door of time" saved it for the last(ish) thing for 3 full rows. Then found out it means the one in ToT, not the one outside

devout onyx
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Yeah outside one is open by default

quasi trench
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I shouldve looked morr at the imagine.. but my brain saw door of time, and just hardlocked on the idea it was the one in grove

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Yeah dumb mistake

pale vale
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#OpenDoTGang

quasi trench
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It did really suck

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I had like no items at all for ToT

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I gave up right that second

ionic jasper
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but I'll open the door and replace it with sky characters

ionic jasper
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also

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@pale vale your changes infact did break the bingo seed

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so I'll have to replando all of the items again

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you can still download the old one and it looks to be fine, but for a new one I'll have to redo it

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since this one doesn't have the illia stuff on it

pale vale
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What specifically broke?

ionic jasper
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entire thing i guess

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the one in the pin looks like you can still download it

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but the settings string itself cant be used

pale vale
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Well yeah

ionic jasper
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which has all the plandoed stuff

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so I guess im gonna replando all 100+ things again

pale vale
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Nah

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So, like I mentioned the settings string would look different but the item placements are still the same

ionic jasper
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yeah but I cant make changes to the plandoed placements

pale vale
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Which is why I asked you to validate the settings. If you have a log from the old seed, I can use that to update the settings.

ionic jasper
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is what im saying

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until I redo it

pale vale
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Ah I see. I assumed it was as good as it was going to get

ionic jasper
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was more just I wanted to replace some oranges

pale vale
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I see

ionic jasper
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cuz we dont need as many with them being on agitha

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makes sense to add some silvers

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cuz otherwise you're being forced to go to hyrule castle

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every single time

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And I also wanted to add 1 castle key

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so you dont have to fight king bulblin every time you need to enter castle

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cuz then it makes one of the goals redundant

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there's no reason to have 3 castle keys + kb3

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cuz those are the same goals

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essentially

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and if you need silvers, you're doing kb3 too

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Wanted to give the ability to just not do kb3 if you dont have to

ionic jasper
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ok I remade the thing again @pale vale

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and the pin is updated'

pale vale
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coo

carmine yarrow
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Cave of Ordeals

ionic jasper
carmine yarrow
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that is coo

ionic jasper
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no

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thats CoO

carmine yarrow
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WideMalo sorry I am stupid

ionic jasper
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coo is coo

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smh

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also I changed the settings for the bingo seed I sent

half escarp
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Birdge coo

ionic jasper
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most stuff is more vanilla now, so you'll need water bombs to enter lakebed

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3 swords to enter tot

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etc

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you dont need to wrestle the goron though

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cuz thats just annoying

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minor cutscenes are no longer skipped

carmine yarrow
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no minor cs skipped?

ionic jasper
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and you have to visit the province before you can use teleports

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there's also more silver rupees

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pins updated now

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it should say HelpfulPumpkin_6Ho

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will do 1 test run with the settings

carmine vigil
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I just realized I think I have avoided going to GM so far. Didn't know you still had to wrestle lol

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Why would minor cutscenes not be skipped? It says those are like dungeon entrance cutscenes, etc.

ionic jasper
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just wanted to see what it did

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omg

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minor cutscenes readds the post man

ionic jasper
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ok im gonna remove the minor cutscenes

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cuz they didn't do anything interesting outside of the post man thing

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but that guy apparently always comes to talk to you

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every single time

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in the same spot

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so thats not very fun

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seed is now done

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UsualMisha_LoB is what it should be

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outside of that the other stuff will remain for now

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I wanna do some testing with what I've got to see if it adds anything interesting

devout onyx
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let us know if you make any more changes

ionic jasper
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Won't be changed for now

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I just didn't like the cutscene thing

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I'd like people to play and give some feed back on it first

devout onyx
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ill give it a shot tomorrow after class

half escarp
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So big changes are ilia quest, no more regions unlocked and that's it?

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oh and dungeons restrictions (fighting goron, lakebed closed...)

carmine vigil
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fwiw the reason regions weren't closed in S1 is because all that really changes is you now have to ride Epona to the corners of Faron Field at the start of every seed

half escarp
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That locks desert and snowpeak though right?

carmine vigil
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Well Memo is free and Snowpeak is also free from the ZD portal. Those don't really change much other than taking 30s or a minute more to get to

half escarp
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Yeah makes sense, I was asked for this change guess I didnt even have to ask lmao

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at least we get a bit more time at the beggining to route now

ionic jasper
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you only start with the main ones you'd start with from s1 and the mirror chamber one

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This is becuase you need portals to unlock for all portals

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And the reason regions are locked is cuz of "visit all reigons"

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temple of time requires all 3 swords, and the rock is back infront of lakebed

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thats about it

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outside of that there's other changes like there's a silver rupee on shadow crystal

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that one might not stay though, cuz it trivializes routing a little too much probably

carmine vigil
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Yeah I wouldn't put a silver Rupee there

ionic jasper
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and there's a silver in the graveyard

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behind the puzzle

half escarp
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? HC graveyard?

ionic jasper
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hc graveyard

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yeah

half escarp
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that's supposed to be the map

ionic jasper
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no it isn't

half escarp
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the rang puzzle?

ionic jasper
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the rang puzzle isn't in the graveyard

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lol

half escarp
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oooh

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I see, the switch thing

carmine vigil
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What is the purpose of adding the silver Rupee there?

ionic jasper
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its the puzzle about the guys grave

ionic jasper
half escarp
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I think kak bell and HC left side was fine

carmine vigil
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Why not change it to simply be "2 silvers"

ionic jasper
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cuz the only 2 silvers in the game in chests in vanilla are the one behind double darknuts(not that bad), and then the one all the way in treasure room

ionic jasper
carmine vigil
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If any 2 silver Rupees work, then you can do Kak bell and the double darknut one

half escarp
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thats what I did last time yeah

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now ig it would be MS and kak bell until MS is moved

ionic jasper
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well, now you have the option to do double darknut or do the puzzle in the graveyard

carmine vigil
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So the graveyard puzzle then lol

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It basically eliminates ever having to do double darknuts I think

ionic jasper
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to be fair I don't think it makes sense to have to do them anyway

carmine vigil
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Why not?

ionic jasper
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do you enjoy fighting both darknuts?

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im gonna remove the silver on master sword right now either way

half escarp
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LuL I'm about to dl the thing, do I wait?

ionic jasper
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you should

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this discussion matters I think

carmine vigil
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I mean, I don't necessarily enjoy collecting 5 heart containers. Goals just have different levels of difficulty

ionic jasper
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I removed both of those silvers

carmine vigil
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If the goal itself is problematic, it seems to make more sense to get rid of the goal

ionic jasper
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its not problematic

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I mean Im the one that wants to add "collect X Sky owl statue checks"

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which would make you get both dominion rods

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before you can do the goal

half escarp
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lmk when I'm good to go

ionic jasper
ionic jasper
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should say NearbyGoron_ep9

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both the silvers I mentioned are gone

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so its just the 3 again

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if it randos an orange onto shadow crystal oh well

carmine vigil
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The rock is back in front of LBT?

ionic jasper
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yeah

carmine vigil
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Time for people to learn the ZA clip. I already know it

ionic jasper
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I don't think it makes much of a difference outside of talking to barnes slightly more and blowing the rock up

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and it promotes knowing more tricks

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if you dont do that

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I feel

carmine vigil
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The ZA clip is easy at least

ionic jasper
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the 3 swords thing for tot was just cuz I like the vanilla feel of it

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it doesn't really change anything

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Well, I guess it does if you planned to run in with no sword

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the only dungeon that has a difference atm is hyrule castle

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we start with 1 key now

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this way, you do not need to do king bulblin everytime you enter hc

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I think thats better overall for the HC goals

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cuz I think it makes KB 3 goal redundant otherwise

carmine vigil
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I don't think this matters if people aren't taking it super seriously, but I thought I saw you mention fast spinner is on. For serious races, its current lack of limitations to where you can use it changes how the game is played significantly (as in, Spinner as much as humanly possible pretty much). If this were to ever become something serious I think it should be disabled in that case

ionic jasper
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my only counter argument

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is that its spinner

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and its hard to get

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You either learn how to do arbiters backwards

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or you go forwards

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neither ways super easy or free

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you spend allot of time to get into desert now

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since you cant just tp there

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have to go get memo, then take cannon

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then you can start arbiters backwards

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I think the time invested makes it not super strong

carmine vigil
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It's not something you would go grab if you didn't have to, but once you get it you are playing a different game imo. Again, this is only if you are really tryharding, but if it is a serious race then I am tryharding lol

ionic jasper
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I feel like both players have the same playing field then no?

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it wouldn't be as if player A has fast spinner and B doesn;t

carmine vigil
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Both players have the same playing field if fast spinner is disabled as well

ionic jasper
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im a little confused on how that works

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cuz if thats the case, you shouldn't be allowed to do ebf either

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cuz thats causing massive disadvantage to people who cant do it

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both players can hold R on spinner

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what you choose to learn with that is up to you like any other trick

carmine vigil
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I just think it is dumb that you have to play the game on top of spinner as much as possible if you are trying to be optimal

ionic jasper
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that would make more sense I guess

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its just hard to judge

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cuz we haven't done anything very serious

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100% of the boards we've raced spinner wasn't much of a factor

carmine vigil
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For me at least, fast spinner and taking it seriously are mutually exclusive. That's just my opinion though

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Not that it necessarily needs to be intense racing. We already have that in other places

ionic jasper
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I think if there was randomly a competitive scene for bingo

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you'd make a different seed for it

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with different settings anyway

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so could always just make a new one with fast spinner turned off and put it in pins as "suggested competitive bingo seed"

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pings are updated with both seeds now

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1 with and 1 without fast spinner

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also I wont change the general one

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I'll just change the competitive one

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thats why its marked with tentative

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So if I wanna mess with changes I'll probably change that one first

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oh yeah skull kids not skipped

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I mayhaps have forgotten to mention that

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oh also yeah

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you have to beat skull kid to enter sacred grove now

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🤔

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I wonder if i should add the teleport and make skull kid optional

carmine vigil
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So you don't start with that portal I assume?

ionic jasper
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not that one

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you start with the ones you start by default with in rando

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and mirror chamber

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since sacred grove got removed from the starting pool of portals

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you dont have it

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though I think skull kid being required is fine

carmine vigil
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Oh I guess that is behind Bow

ionic jasper
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will need to do some bingos to see how it feels

carmine vigil
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Unless the bomb + rang stuff is easy

ionic jasper
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no idea

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but that makes master sword not free anymore

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which also means that silver rupee actually wasn't free

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5 heart containers isn't that hard to do I think, but I've been thinking of adding combo goals

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maybe remove heart container goals

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and instead do

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"Blizzeta and Diababa Heart Containers"

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Etc

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these would go over the boss goal slots

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So if they showed up individual bosses would not

carmine vigil
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The goal that I probably have the biggest problem with right now is getting to 10 hearts. I am fine with it if there are lower version as well and I am getting unlucky, but I swear I see that one a lot
Like if it also had a 6 heart and 8 heart version or something

ionic jasper
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there is a lower version of 10 hearts

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    { id: "hearts_5", text: "Have 5 Hearts Total", category: "stat_hearts", icon: "images/items/hearts.png", exclusionGroup: "hearts_total", displayCount: 5 },
    { id: "hearts_10", text: "Have 10 Hearts Total", category: "stat_hearts", icon: "images/items/hearts.png", exclusionGroup: "hearts_total", displayCount: 10 },
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😭

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its 50/50

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maybe we can have 5/6/7/8

carmine vigil
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Maybe 6/8/10 so it's only 33%?

ionic jasper
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instead of 10

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8 being max

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I do think asking for 10 hearts is really fucked lol

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you start running out of easy hp's

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I can try 6/8/10 too

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if we wanna keep the 10

carmine vigil
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Oh I am not attached to 10 lol

ionic jasper
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but its like how there's the 7 hidden skills goal

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    { id: "skill_1", text: "Learn a Hidden Skill", category: "skill", icon: "images/items/hidden_skill.png", exclusionGroup: "skill_count" },
    { id: "skill_2", text: "Learn 2 Hidden Skills", category: "skill", icon: "images/items/hidden_skill.png", exclusionGroup: "skill_count", displayCount: 2 },
    { id: "skill_4", text: "Learn 4 Hidden Skills", category: "skill", icon: "images/items/hidden_skill.png", exclusionGroup: "skill_count", displayCount: 4 },
    { id: "skill_7", text: "Learn All 7 Hidden Skills", category: "skill", icon: "images/items/hidden_skill.png", exclusionGroup: "skill_count", displayCount: 7 },
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there's 1, 2, 4, and 7

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but it always has all 7

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no matter what

carmine vigil
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That 7 hidden skill one will never see me unless it has a tear on it lol

ionic jasper
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I've seen other numbers obviously

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I know the system works

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but every time its all 7

carmine vigil
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I see "defeat an enemy with great spin" a lot, and I'm like "well, those lines are dead" lol

ionic jasper
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there's 1 for every hidden skill

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I think bingo just hates us

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what enemies suck to kill as wolf

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need more wolf goals

carmine vigil
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This might be too obscure, but I like "kill a keese using a bombling" lol

ionic jasper
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is that even possible

carmine vigil
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You need a shield I think

ionic jasper
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that sounds like cancer

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I'll add it in

ionic jasper
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I kinda actually like that skull kid blocks master sword

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since he sets the prescedent of bow being required to access grove, you dont have the need to rush the same shit every seed

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So you can think allot more about what you need and when you'd need it

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thats my opinion so far though

carmine vigil
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I need to look into it more, but I thought you could do it with bomb + rang.
My start is still going to be this:

  • Some stuff in Ordon (2 swords, probably fishing rod and IB)
  • Ride Epona and get EBF on Ordon Bridge
  • Get Lantern from Coro
  • Ride to corners of Faron Field
  • Get bombs
  • Get rang
  • Get clawshot
pale vale
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iirc skull kid specifically checks for "piercing" damage

ionic jasper
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If he does then I guess bows hard required

devout onyx
ionic jasper
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it isn't a silver anymore so it doesn't really matter

devout onyx
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okay so new changes since i last played are : region locks, water bombs req, mirror portal is open but desert isnt, mastersword is bow locked (?) which is fine, as why would you go into tot without bow ANYWAYS im not a sadist, fast spinner is still on (bless), aaaand uhh no wrestling? and EBF still ok coz like you can do it with ordon sword

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and new goals have owl statues/book pages?

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i think thats everything yeah

ionic jasper
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you have to wrestle bo

devout onyx
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wdym

ionic jasper
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the wrestling thing was about the goron

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not bo

devout onyx
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yeah i just thought someone mentioned wrestling the gorons

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always gotta wrestle the naked old man

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but that was about everything yeah?

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i just gotta check spoiler log for new orange locations

ionic jasper
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tot is 3 sword locked

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also there are no new orange rupee locations

devout onyx
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wdym

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not even as junk?

ionic jasper
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they're all in the same spots as it last genned

devout onyx
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like you removed them all together? other then agatha i assume

ionic jasper
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I hand placed them according to the spoiler log of the last seed

devout onyx
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OH BLESS YOU

ionic jasper
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So if they were randomly placed before then they're there now

devout onyx
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fuck yeah

ionic jasper
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toad poli one is vanilla

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pretty sure

devout onyx
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wait really? didnt know thaat

ionic jasper
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the gm one was randomly placed

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I believe

devout onyx
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yeah gm was randomly places

ionic jasper
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cuz usually thats a 20

devout onyx
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yeah orange wouldnt be in a small chest

ionic jasper
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but I dont give enough of a fuck to remove it cuz it doesn't matter

devout onyx
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okay so bow needed for ms, (again, fine for tot needing ms as you would just get it on the way) just means need to do begining areas with ordon sword, which is fine

ionic jasper
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basically you cant rush anything off rip outside of ordon stuff

devout onyx
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okay time to spend ten minutes fussing over the colors im going to be using for the next while then im gonna do another tears bingo me thinks

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I can still rush rang

ionic jasper
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most things require some amount of time commitement now

devout onyx
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really all thats changed for me is doing rang/lakebed with ordon sword

ionic jasper
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also you start with 1 HC key

devout onyx
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nice

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silvers still in kak and hc?

ionic jasper
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yes

devout onyx
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neat, still only need one claw for that then

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did you make first dom rod free w shad or what was going on w him

ionic jasper
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its the same as before

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you get to do all of tot to talk to impaz if you want both

devout onyx
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ok cool

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can you do impaz with epona oob or just the howl stone? ive obviously never done it so i wouldnt knwo

ionic jasper
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you have to beat ToT For impaz to be accessible

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you cant get around it with epona oob

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epona oob is more for the other stuff

devout onyx
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yeah, i still dont know how to do it regardless lmao

ionic jasper
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its easy, but you have to learn what the route is

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atleast that one is

devout onyx
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also needing to grab water bombs before lbt isnt a huge deal i noramlly get a bomb bag before there anywasy

ionic jasper
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you do map glitch

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and then you can just ride epona out of bounds towards kak

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Oh, if you didn't know, you dont have all portals anymore

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So you either need both fishing rods or learn map glitch to reach snowpeak ruins

devout onyx
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yeah i mentioned that, snowpeak is still available from zd and grove can get from ft

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oh reekfish scent is required? i thought you just didnt get the portal

ionic jasper
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its required

devout onyx
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gotcha

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good to know

ionic jasper
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im trying to keep things somewhat vanilla

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which is why I re-added stuff back in

devout onyx
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yeah understandable

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i have no complaints i just want the correct info

ionic jasper
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the only major thing you can do that you normally cant do

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is arbiters backwards

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thats a whole subset of tricks you'd literally never use unless its bingo or no logic

devout onyx
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oh poe one skip still alludes me

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but once i get PAST that i am fine

ionic jasper
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arbiters backwards isn't too bad to learn

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if isaac would post his setup

devout onyx
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Just need to get poe one skip down

ionic jasper
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otherwise you get to learn the bomb boost instead

devout onyx
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i am awful at it

ionic jasper
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arbiters backwards doesn't kill any poes

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you do arbiters from the boss door

devout onyx
ionic jasper
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you'd enter stallord from mirror chamber and then die in the boss fight

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which places you outside his door

devout onyx
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wait but when i enter the boss room from mirror it just tells me to save and spits me back out

ionic jasper
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have you tried entering as wolf

devout onyx
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... no i have not

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is that how it works?

ionic jasper
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I just do it

devout onyx
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man i dont know anything

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@carmine vigil whats arbiters backwards

ionic jasper
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its something thats normally impossible to do

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or not allowed to be done

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So its not super detailed

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the main thing is getting over the spinning wall

devout onyx
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well i am beholden to no god and theres no ruleset for fucking with a bingo board so the more i know the better

ionic jasper
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no ruleset outside of the goal completions

devout onyx
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well yeah

ionic jasper
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no more claw shotting back and forth for you nerd

devout onyx
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being a stickler for what constitutes as goal completion - yeah that

ionic jasper
devout onyx
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can i have one thing

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killing a beamos with bomb arrows should, technically count as killing it with a bomb

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i will take no alternatives

ionic jasper
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why wouldn't it

devout onyx
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thankyou

ionic jasper
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it just says "with bombs"

devout onyx
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killing it with ball and chain however, was a nightmare

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also i saw smth mentioned about 10 hearts but it was followed by a bunch of code so i zones out, i assume thats still around

ionic jasper
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na

devout onyx
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and yes, kill a keese with bomblings sounds AWFUL

ionic jasper
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    { id: "hearts_5", text: "Have 5 Hearts Total", category: "stat_hearts", icon: "images/items/hearts.png", exclusionGroup: "hearts_total", displayCount: 5 },
    { id: "hearts_6", text: "Have 6 Hearts Total", category: "stat_hearts", icon: "images/items/hearts.png", exclusionGroup: "hearts_total", displayCount: 6 },
    { id: "hearts_7", text: "Have 7 Hearts Total", category: "stat_hearts", icon: "images/items/hearts.png", exclusionGroup: "hearts_total", displayCount: 7 },
    { id: "hearts_8", text: "Have 8 Hearts Total", category: "stat_hearts", icon: "images/items/hearts.png", exclusionGroup: "hearts_total", displayCount: 8 },
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this update is not pushed atm

devout onyx
ionic jasper
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its pretty easy to read

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the text says "have x hearts" man

devout onyx
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i am allergic to code sorry i dont have that kind of reading comprehension

ionic jasper
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Reading comprehension?

devout onyx
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i see 5 6 7 8

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reading is a skill

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i dont have it tho

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sorry

ionic jasper
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there's lots of skills I dont have

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like being likable

devout onyx
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i like you well enough, i think this whole project is Neat TM and Enjoyable TM

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also yes i will get started eventually im still debating cosmetics for this seed

ionic jasper
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I mean

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the simplest solution is no cosmetics

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default only

devout onyx
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yeah but i wanna be PRETTY, Nozzly

ionic jasper
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you saying default is ugly?

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how could you

devout onyx
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im saying default is BORING and i wanna be FUN

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I like the bright fun colors i make my link

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and now we got more options for rang and boots and swords

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tbh i have the wooden sword for like, .2 seconds so i really dont need to change that

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alot of my last seed was purple so ima go more blue

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yes on normal one time seeds i just smash random until it looks decent and fix the tunic colors to all match

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but im gonna be running this seed more then once so i dont want to hate it

carmine vigil
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I'll look into my reverse AG setup and see if I can find an easier version

devout onyx
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ok @ionic jasper if im going to be PEDANTIC about it, one thing abt the website bothers me

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i dont like that these touch

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ionic jasper
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Suffer

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Until I get home

devout onyx
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okay so

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even tho we have the warps for the default places

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we cant use them until we visit that area???

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gfetting to ft to get ebf to get rang is

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very out of my way now

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gotta go get the stupid key

carmine vigil
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As soon as you hit Faron Woods from Ordon, do you not gain the ability to warp to outside FT?

devout onyx
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...

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yes

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i am

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not smart

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i just wasted alot of tijme

ionic jasper
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Warps are province based

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So once you touch the edge of lanayru field you can tp to anywhere in lanayru

devout onyx
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yeah im just a little silly

ionic jasper
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There are some warps you don't start with

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And those are the ones you have to get for all portals

devout onyx
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can you? i wasted time then running to zoras with bombs and down to gbh

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ill know for next time i just need to touch lanayru

ionic jasper
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Yeah

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It's one of the main things that makes that setting redundant for season 1

devout onyx
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theres gonna be alot of time loss this seed as i re-learn how to navigate

ionic jasper
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It only stops you from teleporting until you visit that province

devout onyx
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lbt compass is that in the main room? or is that map

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like im pretty sure its map?? but unsure

devout onyx
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seed: FTY9WOU7
normal bingo, 3 lines
1:08:56, easy baby seed

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i expect that yall could do this in like, 40 minutes

ionic jasper
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I think you over estimate most of us

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And underestimate yourself

pale vale
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BRB gonna go finish it in 6:45:00

ionic jasper
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I don't think it'll take that long Jesus

pale vale
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Game is hard

ionic jasper
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Even jeez is still learning how to play bingo well

carmine vigil
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I feel like I am personally only playing pretty well when I am really keeping up with it for competition. I get rusty pretty fast though lol. Mainly just have decent knowledge

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The gaming equivalant of sucking your stomach in lol

ionic jasper
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Only reason I'd have an advantage is just cuz I'm the one doing the research to make the goals and placing all the items

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So most the stuff is fresh in my mind on how to do it

devout onyx
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yeah, like i said if i had better navigational pathing id be able to cut down time

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and maybe doing ordon bridge bit instead of struggling with ft bit

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need to figure out how to do that

half escarp
devout onyx
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yeah same

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got too used to the other seed

devout onyx
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I have learned arbiters backwards

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and i have learned ordon bridge BIT

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I am taking this knowledge to the bingo board

quasi trench
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More possiblities for path deviation

devout onyx
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i bring water bombs now anyways in case i manage to fuck up my ebf

quasi trench
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Theres also free waterbombs right when entering lakebed, ofc you still need a bombbag + you might need to empty it

devout onyx
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yeah i just buy the bomb bag, sell the bombs, buy 10 water bombs

ionic jasper
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buy bomb bag, sell bomb bag

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pillar clip with ZA

quasi trench
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Oh yeah that makes sense lol

ionic jasper
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grab water bombs

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profity

devout onyx
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yeah but idk how to pillar clip yet

quasi trench
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Yea didnt think about buying them in the 1st place xd

ionic jasper
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if it wasn't sp easy

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I wouldn't do it

quasi trench
ionic jasper
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but like you get 120 just doing the boomerang starter route

devout onyx
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and if im doing pillar clip i may as well not have bombs

quasi trench
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Just try it a few times and youll get it in notime

devout onyx
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sometimes i have it sometimes i dont

quasi trench
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But you need bombs for the stalactites

devout onyx
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like ill usually have enough from grass i get the 10 from graveyard

devout onyx
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but if 10 usnt enough i grab the 50 from graveyard

quasi trench
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Rang ig works then

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So is yall grab rang quite often I imagine?

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Still haven't played much at all woops

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I really cant wait to find a moment to play

devout onyx
ionic jasper
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Due to the boomerangs utility, and the usefulness of ebf, there's almost no reason to not just do ebf and grab it, as it takes less than 5 minutes assuming you do it all optimal

quasi trench
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Can someone please repeat the new bingo seed? I've been scrolling through this chat but I just can't find it

half escarp
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pinned

quasi trench
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NearbyGoron?

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I saw it but i thought it mightve been outdated

half escarp
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that's the one I have yeah

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the other one doesnt have fast spinner I believe

quasi trench
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Oh Im even more confused which one is up-to-date lol

ionic jasper
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they're both the same

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one just has no fast spinner

quasi trench
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Okay much love thx yall

devout onyx
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I feel like everytime I look over here nozzly is a new anime girl

ionic jasper
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problem?

carmine vigil
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Just noticed we are up to 3551 messages in this thread now lol

ionic jasper
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should we maybe consider moving out of a thread

pale vale
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I can create a bingo channel if you guys would like

carmine vigil
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I think it might make sense at this point. Also would get new eyes that way

pale vale
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done