#📨・meta-help
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kinda is on ice, all attackers are bad at ss0, barely usable at ss3, good at sss0
(All attacker technically)
🔫 
Dang skip then, I'll just go for date a live collab
3s6 is where she's at
k whel
All attackers has never been f2p friendly
Meta-wise ofc
Unless ure someone crazy
Playing SS0 Bonca with 5* sig wp


Wait, Is Liv limpidity not f2p friendly either?
that's u innit
Yep, same stuff
Liv limp now looks good bcs Feral is outdated af
And Nanami is abit old
new light amp pls
Lao what if someone play sigless Lilith
qte reset on Liv would be fun to see
didn't some ppl say ss0 kamui > ss0 liv in lightning
Scores close, not more
use lilick 
darn almost one more victim of kamui

This granny so horni
maybe can score more with more reso invest on kamui than liv?
Also do consider
Kamui uses Lilith
Liv uses Feral
Both uses Nanami
Feral is the bottleneck
I'm too lazy to test but it's about the same
200k 400k diff same invest and reso
oh so 223 kamui/nana/lilith still isn't beating 222 liv/nana/feral?
well, i guess that's to be xpected with the type adv
If u like SS0 R0 refer to Yoshiko
If u like SS0 R3 SS cub refer to Nuke
Oh, that means i can use him on my light

warabout ss0 r1 s cub
Randall where's ur channel
Meanwhile me with r3 vera/Lilith/kamui/ish:
oh ok so kamui does win at "regular low invest"
No more Liv sp delay shiet
Im a nobody

Ban the Pilots 
What pilots
wut
That's all mine 
Well granted I'm shi at doing Liv, put favor on kekmui 
use ray fr
it worked
How much SP delay u done
Watafak
Still hasn't learn shi for light
Idk what to do
does ss0 need sp delay? 🤮
Yeah
A MUST
Cuz shes slow as heck
Pack it up bro
gross, how abot ss3
Just wantap
Still do, just less painful
Not much needed
But preferably still sp delay
Nuke has gib some tips for ez hack sp delay
what does ss3 liv gib
rights
Basically put the ult UI button on top of the blue 3 ping
Then just button mash it
Need less blue ping
SS0 is 2x3 blue
SS3 is 1x3 blue
and super qte ofc
Oh ye the 15 sec super qte can kill a wave at SS3
At SS0 it just tickles
It doesn't even do shi
oh right the super is part of base kit, its the 10x at ss3 that makes it viable
Btw it may helps
https://youtu.be/k_T3N48hy3Q?si=n3QYxtYgnn0c2p5k
tyty
God
Why she has to move away when using hold ba
Like bro
Like girl
Shawty
You're missing the enemies entirely
When new wave spawned
Like half of first hold ba dmg wasted
Liffu need correction💢
what IB boss rn?
karen boss
plasma and fire rn?

Heyya, does the rotation for honse change when she reaches ss3
yes
F is there any tutorial for that:D
maybe but idh
i see tyy
do u have hanless sig vid?
hmm
Hi! I'm a returning player (stopped around Liv's latest banner) and just recently pulled for Rosetta Arete and Kamui Aeternion. Currently I am missing Teddy Spectre and Nirvatia and PPC skulls are very low. Should I try in pulling Teddy Spectre on the special banner or just save for Alpha's new frame?
no
you can get them for free
just grind
ye
It's a slow grind yes? I think I have had 2-3 weeks worth of service weekly quests and I can only buy 37 inver-shards atm
yeah very slow
boy I cant wait to get dlt on kamui
damn it's sad to see darkflow ending up like this
can't imagine even dark going up against the top 2 elements

Invest?
2.333 222
This invest can 34s on powered, so on mooncake it can be higher like maybe 30/31 
yea



Anyone have sugestion for alpha Crimson weave team comp ?
By bench her 
Feral and any tank u have
Until u get any better light units
Or just off ele with kamui or arete when u get them
Does Liv lux work
How to get crimson weave 6k bp?
Do you have her cub ?
need 6k bp to get it for free
do you have her memories resonated?
memory reso can be random, dont need to overinvest on cw
Lvl 45 her weapon and memory
Max lvl her skill
And put some no matter mem reso
ty
Should i keep going to sss+ or wait for her new frame
congrats u bricked your acc 
shes usedless nowadays
Sure about that
cw is 4 yo if not at sss+ with min nana she might as well be a brick
does plasma kamui outdps s+ alpha I wonder
Think twice
She s+
Not only actual useage
Somewhere at the shop
u dont need to get those, with the ammount of coins u can get from simulation battle its not worth wasting your vouchers
i thought it would be better
Also u whelling?
nope
they are same thing but let u choose instantly, but gamba is 100x cheaper
Noppe
u would rather save up vouchers for character shards
whats it like buying a copy of your memory to random reso?
nah u dont need to do that either nowadays
it lets u gamba with the coins directly
ow wait
click on the memory, train, resonence
and ill let u resonate with the coins directly
you should said that early
fk why not make this artifact system and just upgrade skill why there alot hahahahhaha
cude resonance skill leap skill
weapon resonance
Finally i mannage to understand this sht
oh no
because nobody wana gamba for substats
flat stats are always better
used the red usbs on cw
daren's not ded even when her new frame comes out
Welp
Anybody knows when alpha new frame release ?

2nd june
aka next week

Time to back off from those other banner
I hope the new frame is as good as the Crimson weave when it first released

It seems to me im missing some info
is this a ragebait😭 ✌️
Which is not veri gud
Have you hypertune it
?

Hold on a minute
Which one is better, cottie or tifa
Well i'll be damned


hows alpha inverse at the end of her beta?
Brokes no rights
I've seen this a dozen times 
K whel
ss0 = similar to bianca

There goes my dream of replacing my current team
Unless
Does luna oblivion still relevant rn ?
not really

Now im screwed big time
she is

So which one
For nihil team yes
void team wise she is, she's good still
Well
Im outta ideas
Back to alpha it is

nothing
I stopped playing after dmc Collab, I'm very close to pity should i get kamui aeternion? I can't save enough for 60 pulls in a couple of days for advancement
Alpha skin sfx looks good no clown face on ult
Nuke when u gonna upload ur slash run

yes get kamui
Yea looks really good
Myvowner better buy that

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Did post on bhili can see that too
i need to know how bad alpha inverse is at SS0 during her beta
crappy rotation and crappy damage?
@slow cobalt is it fine even tho no advancements?
like a 2m increase over sss lilick
not even on burn
wdym?
Returnee? HG01BFD605 <-- use code in homeward bound for free pulls if you're a returning player. Works on all servers.
Don't steal my pasta you hag
Unit rank ups, got used to the term advancement
u can get those once u do endgame stuff
Phantom Pain Cage to be exact
I cant use it

sasuga potential woman
But phantom cage only gives like 30 shards that's only enough for SS, everyone says SS2 is min investment
You're not a returnee 
Thanks I'll use the code


which character are you referring to
Kamui aeternion
if breaker then ss0 is fine
kamui ss0 is already good enough
ss3 is a very good point for breakers if u can aford
Oh ok then, thanks
Kamui SS3 is nice but is def not the minimum investment needed
His SS0 is just fine
@rotund fox idk y but I'm unable to enter anything in the code section, i just downloaded the game 2 days back
Did the game not count you as a returnee or something
youre new not returnee
whats your story progress
*wait for CN riot

222?
What full memo
Are you doing yellow full 2nd rot or red taps or blue
No
All of them 3 tap reds and hold ba
I prep until 1 red and full bar for blue
I interchange it when hanying is near
Don't have 3s echo?
Also wut your honse rots 3 rot all?
2 and prep then 3
Alternate 3 then?
This is the rot for horse
Sometimes i get to full prep before swapping out
I malded on 3sec hanying rot as opener then honse
what current score
After much consideration,
I shall pull alpha IC
Just for the nostalgia of pulling alpha Crimson Abyss
Which is an absolute pain in any area
I mean, she's still an upgrade in ice
But not for the enemy
just dont expect her to excel like kamui
also expect alpha to maybe receive the same treatment as bianca
expect more s-ranks from hereon out which speeds up powercreep (which means bye bye alpha sooner than it was back then)

2m increase 
Is it true that they nerfed alpha 2 times in both cbt?
with back to back s ranks all new units will have a shorter lifespan now
seems like daren record will be unmatched
Anything but lightning amp
if she's not replaced by leia idk
*burn buff

How about light amp
All in 17 black for lightning/glacio amp

After alpha
Is the breaker class basically the better version of tank class?
these are mine
Is there like a difference on what it does?
they can hold the glorious afterglow weapon reso
I think karen will be a phys breaker, cause that element is dying
nah adelyde will be
in the faq btw
You never know with kuro tho
i still can't put my finger on what leia can be tho 
Interesting
also we're not getting the collab till 2027
collabs always happen at around the same time
which is may/june before half anni patch
I still don't like the b2b s rank releases, it's just scummy
Yeah they are the better attacker tank class
Can't wait for the ice breaker to be announced
asking for alpha's early retirement I see
it'll be the fastest alpha powercreep
It's bleak
it's not far off my guess
Saw on twitter on how new alpha is weak n didnt get buff thats kinda mess up
It's another rosetta situation trust 😩
as god intended
maybe kuro is too focused on optimizing her "stylish moves" as priority over her numbers
but this is announced on half anni, which means we will need one extra announcement on anni this year
Came back to pgr just for her man😞
just pull her at higher rank
She is not for meta anyways
atker class not for f2ps
she is 
just 4s her
came back for mid
I would if im not broke n not f2p
Maybe it is time to spend money just for her

then what are u waiting for
hear me out

spend money on ice breaker
The s rank selector next patch is up to Ishmael, right?
a cooler chara
They could have just make alpha ice breaker ngl 

no lol
Hmm, what should I choose now? I think I should choose Ish and then pull her to 3s?
Explore the 67 characters of SKKMA from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
clearly made for styling
meaning you know who to blame
annihilator class is gatekeep by void element seems like
what a bummer
What rank nanami and Ishmael
made for 3 people

Haven't heard lee in awhile did kuro just forget him completely
hold out on the selector
Ye
wait till a leap announcement
a leap should be right after alpha
who ?
m*les characters are forbidden in gacha games
That's unfortunate
shut up


Does Knight Hell Chaos modes in PPC have same HP for bosses?
no
why would even be the point
None
Karen replaces nanami

Knight has the least HP?

pyro
Helentine the free amp they be doing these days apparently
ye

Qukra
Wanshi
If we follow the release order, I assume Wanshi will get Leap next?

wanshi leap would kill alpha
I might believe this if I didnt know about the shred situation in Plasma
its usually every 2nd unit
they're already making sure wanshi isn't getting leaped

You can't use release order for leap release, they always release leap as random as a random fly in your kitchen.
Next leap is wata 2md leap
imagine leaping a m*le character
pyroath is already questionable
so like
He comes back alive
either pyro or nana leap
Shreds all ele mow
but fire is busted with kamui
One Leap before Helentine at least
Karen will hit things really hard until they start healing

I strongly think Helentine will be after alpha
Fire attacker

an iq too high
Fork found in kitchen
Feral found in yaoi bar
mfs playing like they knew all along
oh
But they replace meta units in order right?
Luna is the oldest character still in meta. I assume we will get new Nihil Annihilator soon?
Bruh
No.... 
no
huh? feral? hello
What is 21 doing in yaoi bar
yes
It's kinda pointless to look at release order for meta perspective
They do things whatever they do
Feral been technically still meta
You just have to accept whatever tf they do

Feral is not meta. Isn't Ishmael filling in Lightning team?
bro.....feral's buffs are causing lightning team to be garbage
Technically not
feral on life support ever since ish ss3 exist
Feral is still the dedicated lightning amp
that's why we do need feral replacement
There is no better lighting support
Helentine boobs suggest she'll be amp

When they replaced dark attacker before even replacing dark tank karen that was so funny

I still have the s rank from blue banner, maybe I'll pull ish and open the selector to get her 3s.
I dont believe this, must anaylse closer
do u have rosetta
Not really sure how 3s ish really valued at this point tbh
To be spending standard just for her
It's not even that massive
Touching must required to acquire full knowledge
ros ss3 r2
shes only in nihil
so like
idk
light amp coming soon so her use ends
wym analyse, she's even getting a free summer skin
hmm, replace wanshi?
only amps get that
No?
my wanshi is ss3 5* lol
wanshi cant be replaced
Uhhhh
br
Bro what

holy brick
Aint that teddy tho
huh !?
qte shred

alpha + teddy => wanshi qte bot, so he can be replaced with ish 3s r2?
Teddy summer skin free
no
He got buff
You forgot one thing
Shred field now
bruh
tankmael is useless
Ishmael can't create field shred with qte
Like wanshi does
So like it doesn't matter if you have lower invest lmao
yeah i forgot
What's the point of more shred if you can't even shred shi
kuso design to screw ur ass
Once every time she feels like she wants to do smth
Dont she need to ult to create the field?
ye
yea tankmael useless
Ult1 at least yeh
Smh
What is she even gonna use, dv eins cot or sum
All gen3 tanks are getting shred field yet fraudmael still left in the ditch
sothoth dv
also how many times her shred lasts
Watafak no cot
4 soth 2 cottie 2 dv
Need sototh
Be a sloth
Otherwise field useless
Slack

This fraud should go rq
yea thats with cottie
without cottie you just
die
Lmao

Hey did u do my glace yet
No

imagine they leap her and suddenly she can shred on qte

Normal leap 
Then she has qte nuke
Chat who do I pick from the free selector
qte nuke only ss3 atkers and annihilators
Done. Thanku for the help
New gimmick

shred ona nniv

wanshi
Also why ish
Oh yeah
Why don't everyone just get 3s hanying smh
Damn I lowkey complimented you but okay

Pakyu too then
Wait wha
Im never picking u
Why not

Skill issue
Get 3s3
We get 1 nihil every year
ye that's a compliment lol, it mean u too recent for that
haiya
Nah he don't deserve you 
You got rizz but he can't see them
Time to leave that axe
Get it?
no
No
nope
no
fr
🧱
No mods active

Free hiv
Who said I’m using my hand

I got double D’s
What's ss3 pyroach plasma build
gone
same sht
4 sig 2 cot 2 eins
My kamui doesn't have sig rn
If you wanna use pyro with kamui
then get
4 sig 2 cot 2 wilde
go get smh
No bc
More than enough
go get bc

He is s5
man looks like i'm not the only one having a bad time with ppc skull inflation
Will have to use Pyro for 3 more weeks
I gave u build
Now go score 610k

Thanks
GA pyro should be able to get 615k easily
what 3 weeks
Still work, you just don't use hold ba 
we get 300 day 1 patch
Ss3/ss3/ss scores 610?

Ss kamui only lock energy after hold ba + Sunfire buff
Nice
222 scored 609
Hold yellow gonna get things done still
oh ye tru
No blue spam?
This is actually genuinely impressive considering how horrible physical is without shred
mine did hold ult
What's Nana's build for this
4 dv 2 glo 2 eins
Try kekmui smh 
Wth
I expected much worse ngl
Can't do that
This slash tho
Not phys
Phy scoring much lower

Oh..
then screwed
Lmfao
What is the context of this....
broski didn't see the SHATTERED PEAK in the img
Ion
lilick 4 sam 4 guin
Ppc?
Yea
ye
Peak indeed
Peak garbage 
Peak cooking wym
Why the hell is nanami on hersch AND cottie 😭😭😭
nah ts is good now
Lemme figure out a 5 rot ender
That's literally useless in this context lol
For honse
Selena as tank is peak frfr
Spoiler Selena's future frame

I thought it's already good since vergol
no more schizo thank u
When’s fire wz
We're playing wuthering gray ravens now no more old characters getting new frames till eos 
What she gonna do as a tank, throw her flute?
I js realized my honse fire build was chopped
fr
I didn’t realize I had double eins holder
no more fire thanks

They're really spamming Kamui's zone on his patch
She's gonna summon sound horeg as phys Breaker 
they'll do the same with alpha so be ready skippers 
Watafak horeg in 2026
I wonder if new ice without alpha would just be better off doing Teddy opener
Now that ice has shred field rights
I’ve been doing Teddy opener

Brick
I’m bricked up yes
what would change ? it's without alpha anyway

Nothing except wanshi's qte prob
Oh, you dont use his ult in the beginning anymore

theres ice?
No
No
No
it's glacio dw
chat is ss3 kamui or 3s pyroath better for plasma
Good question
use both

also ss3 kamui alr used on skych anyway
so my ss3 pyro for the job
No nihil?
I used honse vero vera for skych

For long runs like wz I think Kamui will be better
Wanshi qte field lol
on tb
Oh
Pyroath kills herself
what the...
wait, is it better to run Nihil on tb or skych?
Nah
Wanshi a bit faster in opening
Also sets up his consecutive rots
i mean in wz 3s pyro is part of team no ?
Yes
Fr?
no way
How many rots
yep

Me with
K whel
🐳
Still good cuz no alpha
So, did beta end?
Yes
Idk what to do with ts
s0?
Wantap goes brrrrrr

620 but same thing
man serum almost capped
633 tb next


Scored 564k 
man told ya
dv glo eins nana
sam guin lilick
or brick
Barcelo cottie lilith
lmao
Heisen eins herschell nana
Watduhek
haiya
Bro's cooking
change that shi real' quick
Next week 🥀✌🏻
what did bro do with them
Teddy and kamui
Ss0 Kamui is already better than S+ pyroath in plasma 
with 6k u can alr buy the sets, or u can borrow from other chars
I was absent from liv to rose patch
U want a old video of me doing roach plasma
no
Now wtv the hell I got stays as is 
man 564k u should do better
Why’s ur nanami on hershell
Cause I don't have dv to put on her
She’s not rotating in
What
U got invalids
man borrow on other chars
Somewhere
my nanami was on heraclitus
I resonate builds for every character
we need the mem effect no necessarily the reso
Self promotion!
man 600k possible with no reso
610
He should score 615 actually
He’s higher invest than me

but he has no reso
4 sam 4 guin

mf on dps set for a support unit
2 cot where
nana swap will do the job no ?
4 barcelo 4 cot axial ray Lilith
4 hers 2 heisen 2 eins DD nana
4 sig 2 wilde 2 cot dlt pyroach
Time out
Wtf
uh that what i do 
That's why I just switched to 4 cottie
Maybe that’s why ur roach score so low

I was using 4 dv 4 guin initially
what a minute






