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Fate's
i barely see him here
but also you wouldn't want to anyway bc her sig cub enhances her damage personally
if cant afford cub just use noctua lol
then Ori's
hi bro
cringe
Ori's what rest?
foot rest
Watapak


@noble zinc do u perchance have a 232 honse df guide
Can u be my rest
But you already have Ober
be my footrest plox 


Fork can be yours then
hi joe
5 where
ss6 bonka


Pakwhel
Pak u
No pakyu
No u
You pak together
No u!
pak u
Come here

Oh not the uno reverse
Guys i have a quetion
Theory building should i turn vergil into a QTE bot
due to his high off field dmg
Like
bro sig sucks
but his off field is nuts
No im gonna straight u
Thats not my quetion
But it’s a solution
Not the only one if we can just think for a moment
im here to discuss my options outside of selena

also i dont have selena
that team is special
His QTE is like one of the highest in the game its actually really high
his core is good but his sig dmg is really bad
I mean
With that kind of invest his damage should be enough to be dps no?
Actually good quetion
Bro is sig dmg is mid af on physical
his qte is a standard nuke qte iirc
its just unique because its affix
no other units have affix nukes
dont say wanshi
LOL
Wanshi
Wanshi
we dont talk about him
I'll record
racist
racist against wanshi's
Qte on his ss3 kit is 1000%
It's standard, if he's not physical
Pretty sure vergil is doing very good numbers in phys rn
And crit damage applies to him
unfort i dont think ts nuke qte will be as effective in phys
its better than nothing tho
just work on your hanying over time
she will wow you with her new leap
kuro cooked
But his qte is physical damage...
What if
oh wait it is?
:^(
oh? i was told it was affix. does dante have a fire nuke qte as well?
i avoided the dmc collab, i had a feeling they would get binned from the meta
vergil was tempting
Alpha doesnt
Current gen's dont have super qtes like liv and alpha
true, but i think thats just phylo nonsense
And also these gens are all player defined. They start whenever the player base wants
i was running dv hanying last time
But every new attacker will most likely have the super qte. Phylo or not
balter mentioned, my man
Yeah
maybe
The one that charges and has tlc
we've had no example of non phylo unit with these traits tho
we shall see
so far between liv and alpha, phylo has two traits
-tlc on a core passive attack
-tlc qte nuke
ofc for liv is whale bait
alpha just has it
Thats not a phylo trait 
The banner has nothing to do with character kits
Thats just the new attacker gimmick
ig we'll have to see if they do this for non phylo attacker
That's why all amps have qte reset no matter how u obtain them. They can be gacha or free or from a new banner
we haven't had one since liv tho
But they all have the same kit
And thats why when breakers came out, ish now has the qte charges too
And u think the super qte is not a new attacker stabdard?
@keen meteor
not worth getting mad over
its just observations
not like solon himself has descended to tell us his plans
i mean, no other examples yet exist. but ur allowed to believe what u want
none of this matters lol
if they do decide timestop qtes are standard, then they will be. if its meant for phylo only, then it will be
but i can't imagine they will make limited time units and then not give them an edge over others
i thought that was the entire point
I mean, it's basic reasoning
Phylotree doesn't specifically just lock away super qte properties for every other unit within the same class, even kuro is not that dumb.
It'd make sense if you were talking about a whole different class like Tanks and Breakers, but that's not the case.
an improvement
i think we've miscommunicated? i only mean the timestop nuke, the regular nuke qte is clearly standard now
and hopefully they extend it to affix later
8m where
I am talking about the super nuke, it'd be dumb to phylotree lock that when the class itself doesn't go through any changes
brother
agreed, it would be dumb and it would be whale bait
alpha just, isn't giving me faith that this wont be the case yfm
Tanks got -3 as their upgrade and every tank after regardless of where they came from have said -3s after
I don't see why any other attacker starting from Liv wouldn't have the super qte
i'd prefer if this new timestop nuke qte was standard
its a lot more fun to wiggle it into the rot
but idk if they will do it for everyone or not, ig i hope they will
The phylotree banner in itself is stupid as it isn't even lore locked ||Teddy is phylotree||
So it's just there to be useless
Im not mad. I literally dont have a way to convince u. So you'll just have to wait and see is what im saying
All good
Ok
begging on the streets for these mfs to let me retain hero
ur close
what were ur other zones
could maybe eek out a bit more with one of them
phys hard to mald at low invest, no flexibility
except chadying
ice 7.2m at 32.33 amp lmao
and fire 10m with 232 sigless wata (and 222 ft. Pyroath)
should i change 4 hervor to 4 shakes on vera,2 amp team
i know that they both are playable but still,which is more preferable
i heard that ht'ing hervor isn't worth

Because you are actually bricked
~~should i remind ur wz score ~~
It was too low that it's not even worth reminding
Lucia Lotus ass score
Lao bracket
if that said 42m, i'd ended my life, phys is so bad!
use discord secator, upgrade a little bit level 80, max skills and you can get ~800k
Uhhh
I don't understand
Ok maybe not quite
oh my bad it was phys
Discord secator???
although that is off ele
on physical wz my mistake
I don't understand a thing
you have cycle of fire (fire) and machine factory (physical)
on physical team with level 80 a rank discord secator you can get 800k easily
Okay let me check if I have it first
🔥 🔥 🔥
@upbeat phoenix do u know😭

alright tysm
quite sad, you will get them eventually
I had the chance to pull
But instead, my dumba$$ mind tried to ss teddy (the basic banner one)
lucia hypercarry
yes
ye i said physical
who said lotus is dead?
easy 0.144
it's fire anyway so use on fire
What about this
camu is only for siege, he won't do much damage
specific enemy type
which isn't in warzone
That's why i can't find a rank Karen in phys group

Okay okay
What about Watanabe
alphonse eins
TF IS THIS
I wasn't planning on sending this
I was going to send this
HE IS FIRE
THEN WHY IS HE UNDER THE PHYSICAL SECTION???
He is phys
Wait
Oh man....
You mean it was a fire unit
oh wrong watanabe
Which he is a good unit?
discord hypercarry is funny
the fact that she scored nearly 1m is a little concerning
(higher than expected)
he is physical yes and he will probably do damage, but not at the newer character levels
Man this sucks
shame you don't have her hypertuned like i did or have now
So what should I choose from them?
i guess wata liv and nanami
does the recomended meory good for her?
Do I need to get them all to lvl 80?
Nah
4 nimue 2 bathlon or cottie
You should go 4 nimue 2 cottie
Or 4 nimue 2 bath
it's not necessary, it's only for skill levels
So like 50 maybe is good?
okay ill try to get it, my good unit only her lol
if you're short on resources i guess, i'm not sure about levels
in the end you want all your chars to be level 80
but if you are tight on resources ig not
I only have enough to get one of the characters to lvl 50....
this scored me 800k on physical
I'll be wasting resources if I maxed out A ranks characters
Damn
damn
it's only temporary solution
So should I get wata to 50 then
my Discord was SSS+ with 5 star resod wep and Hanying + Wata for support to get 1m, how tf?
zone difference
its boss zone
it's backup squad and level 1-54
oh makes sense
fresh acc
yeah you would get way more off of wave bonus with that
ye i cleared 10 waves
same lmao
actually my 21 was replaced by nanami storm, but still she isn't built
I got worse score than the previous one
fire?
Phys
with the early characters it can be like that
Wait wait
I may have found something
When you switch characters after they support you
Does the character swapped have cooldown like usual
15 second cooldown
ah its the guy from ch1
i don't know i thought it was 15 sec
its 15s
Hmmm
12s if 3s breaker/tank
can someone tell me aretes build
4sig 4bathlon is what I've seen commonly used
But you might wanna wait for the laos to confirm
Bianca ss3 or no Bianca
4 nimue 4 bathlon
Sub dps Lilith
4 barcelo 4 cottie
3rd slot amp
4 dv 4 guin
Yes
what is dv
Da vinci
huh
isnt ss-ss3 4 sig 4 cottie
for rosetta
lilith carries sig cot guin or sig cot
and another tank carries 4 dv 4 bath
it depends on your team comp
if youre new
pretty sure you dont have a tank that is sss
nor do you have rose sig
Ah yes cuz ppl r gonna own a 3s wata and not the 2 free amps
better to use 4 sig 2 cot then
wata is more universally used
amps are mostly fillers
his field + -3s cd is more valuable
Ok
I’m assuming he doesn’t own
A 3s wata
That’s why I went an amp comp for him
Where does he say that
they got rosetta just an hour ago?
How tf am I suppose to know that
they posted it
All I see is a “what Rosetta build”
so if you can assume they dont have wata, you could also assume they dont have a sig
shortsighted smh
because one is a more universally used meta team for low investment
So u assumed he has a 3s wata
i gave them a build, not assumed anything

U gave a tank comp build
i knew they dont have a sig yet i gave a 8 piece memory selection didnt i?
also whats wrong with a tank comp?
What
Gotta give it to them yuuji 
sure lets count how many teams hes used in for low investments
fire, darkflow, burn, void, nihil, dark
If u don’t own wata
lets count how many teams nirv is used in
void, nihil
lets count how many teams teddy is used in
ice
You see, he's still used now because most people have him at 3s
and who is?
And its not worth to get him
i dont see it that way, hes pretty valuable if you can use your vouchers for to get him to 3s
2s wata scores about the same as double amp
Ones voucher ones free completely
His Sig also not free
i never said keep him at ss0
So new players will have to get him to 3s with voucher?
im not 100% sure if hanyings field shreds anything besides physical even if you equip elemental memories
There is a fire team without wata, there’s no phys team without han
i see it that way yeah, if not him the next in line should be nastar who gets leaped for tanks
Double amp works just fine
Double amp comp scores similar
And its a whole lot cheaper
im not denying your point, im justifying having a 3s tank
We’re not saying 3s wata is bad
the field + -3s cd is very useful
Nobody said 3s wata is bad
Don’t get him
Cuz it’s not worth it
When those resource
Can be used on other units
That will last longer in meta
Seems like you missed the point
nah i was more focused on getting max scores without considering the cost value
just rawdogging
since vouchers are pretty rare for non bp havers
i can see the point being made here
Even im still considering if its worth to 3s him in my account
Wata is already dead on my account
ss3+
I meta player i just bad
No kiwi for me I have my own little fun sometimes
That being said anyone wanna do my tundra

Ur willde
Nuh uh
You’re about to find out why ober limps all the time

He sprained his knee? 
do wolfie strat
take an hour or two
to finish
I dont wanna 
When i feel like it, havent even completed with dfm yet


When is June 2
Tomorrow
luna obliv meta ga bang
kmrin si ktnya bagus, mo mastiin lagi

void tu ape wkwkkw
Element
siapa aja
Kalo masih baru mah santai aj
lepel ak 91 si ga baru baru amat
beli ajala
mayan 1 dolar=18rebu kwaokwakowaoawkwok
aliens 

Which should I build first: plasma beam or fire memory set (for Kamui)
It’s fire wz this week
Build fire
And fire ppc

When I was born, the randomized difficulty ended up on nightmare mode.
I Dont know u darksouls irl
Surly just a katana
And a pod as helmet
let me solo her

What game?
All game depends on u
If u felt worth to ur time
Then play
Attami back to whaling in alpha patch 
depend on kuro
I had nowadays mental breakdown, kuro how deserve more money
If livstream is good and beta changies acceptable
Then s+ alpha order
What does davinci 6 actually do
Remove the 4pc cd
Doesnt feel like it
What team in do u try?
try playing without
Only dark which benefits the most by that
Was trying phys vergil team

I'm fighting the urge to get the background and profile frame so badly but I also want alpha idk what to do

In phys not really needs
Vero is 1 ult or selena
Han where a bit felt a needs for after 2nd rot for reset selena qte if sp delay her.
Vergirl team donno
Like in a irl weddings
so whel
u don't even have qte charges to make use of
Are you going for s+ alpha
Iv spent a little too much on all her coatings...
If livstream is good and beta changies acceptable
Then s+ alpha order
Goodluck!!
The problem is i kiwi after
nws found a work around got 8mil no resosance with ss0 hanying
Full ss0?
Then u need to aim 10 12m around
Well im sure i can get that if i resonance
Honestly
ii might change vergil from Atk to QTE im not sure but his qte dmg is fing nuts dude
Yeh and basically no weapon reso either
oh ss han
Yep
He vergiling it?
yep
Honestly with reso and cub im prolly hitting 14-15 mil
But i wont have that before the week ends sadly
eh
Would be cool if hanying got like a biker skin
turned her strings into a guitar of sorts
So want to be a musican to be a rockstar
best suggestion ever
Like Imagine songstress of death or Fairywomen of the underworld rocker guitar hanying
would go hard
She summons spirits and souls using her guitar
and they attack the enemy
what are the zones this week?
Phys Boss, Ice/Darkflow Mob, Fire Dou
ty

depends on who you ask about al***a
Seens ss3 or no rights
I've no need for an ice breaker victim
Yeah then sss or bust
Only 3s is safe or maybe ss3 I'm for sure ss invest won't last long even if they buff her
That's the time where they're fckd up if that happens
But I don't think they'll do that breakers we have now is strongs
That's my issue rn LMAO
If ice/ignition breaker, ss0/3 is brick
Knowing nanami has normal fire shred
They didnt leap wanshit so high chance next roadmap kiwi

Both wanshit and hy
Bye bye
2 new breaker, 1 new light amp
I get ignition breaker bricking alpha since fire and ignition can probably stack, but how does ice breaker brick alpha?
She deals less dmg than teddy in beta?
If no A rank after alpha we getting light ampli first for sure
Then ice breaker or phy ig
They did leap Hanying
There will be 1 A
Ohh

Leap still have a chance get replace
Rush meta hard
I guess but they're much less likely to be chopped in the short term
Solaceutne probably will stick around for another 9 months or so
Idc bout collab it's a skip patch also for me
We getting ice breaker ig after light ampli
I just buy pack then convert tickets
Nothing to spend
It's Kuro
Predicting what they'll do next is near impossible
When norman end
Where s5
SS ice team nearly impossible ig
how much pull can we get from next patch
Need to contact ching chong idk wut will happen then
50/50
But still 4s Vergil slapping in IB tho that is before off elem penalty he still have some highlights but just didn't last long enough

7 days 
2.3 teddy
more can slack then
i cant believe looking for SS acc this days harder than the gameplay it self
@steady otter they kiwi
just buy ss account and maintain it 
Ss ded

I got mutals last choice
let's do
Make a alt for it

my account ss bro
Huaxu pls

how much of a dmg increase will kamuis pet be

it really isnt a penalty its more of you can score more if you dont off element
for the new ice team do i need teddy to be the second dmg dealer or can she be a sup and wanshi be the secon dps i only have her s rank rn
nenw ice team including new alpha
Wo mr. Exaltair
No new players + most old players even F2P have had many chances to rank up their units either via selectors or dupes 
Alpha's current state in beta is horrible at ss0 so wait and we'll see
Oh ok was planing to ss3 her
Welp ill wait
Good because her ss3 is ridiculous compared to her ss0
And there's still no v2 update to beta despite her being so bad
Do we have her full kit somewhere?

Windlao make vid for non existent newbie
The usual fan translator didn't do alpha's kit yet lol
🥀
Damn
Tbh there's still a lot of people with the invest he records but most of them aren't super hardcore malders and/or aren't very active in PGR cords lol
Hidden gem
who that ?
Idr their name tbh lol
well some1 on the cn-lobby did it
Weiss?
ye
should be on the docs as usual
Homeless inv wut people want
Even if none there

k wehl
That up 3 mentioned upload non 3s wanshi teddy videos
Wut cub reso

Wut state of your current cn acc now

Possible to maintain?
Then I will

they don't exist
Irl things?
that and 3 pgr acc to maintain
Ah
Can do for another mnth or 2? Then I can take over
You funding right? Sometimes
funding what ?
Monthly or bp there
that acc is pure f2p
wut abt wpn reso
rich
0 usb rn?
i can secure alpha r1 till she gets out
Need to think abt future more 
ok you maintain for now i will take after some time 

Tho will go bric if they release R3 min chrs back to bk

We all then
Where that sheet how much bc one time
ask fabio
@deft apex
This?
Can also stop voucherable at ss3 more comfy then
Will buy reso with voucher 
Nvidia and Kamui patch not included tho
Ty
Yeah let's stop voucherable at ss3
We want low inv acc anyway
My acc for ss0-ss3 low-mid inv
Naively for ss3-sss mid-high

f2p shouldbe stop at ss3
voucher unit
So we can borrow
Fk whel

@icy otter look this fk whel
Fraud whel
Fck whel
i'm f2p wym
guys how many players will come flooding in when alpha releases
dmc tourists rejoice?
About 3 fiddy
At least 5
I doubt they can even make past the UI
Guys what's alpha best build
I have her at SSS+ R3 and who do i pair her with
garnet and lux
best build is 4 frederick 4 patton
New top meta build for alpha team
the other two alphas her best teammates
SS0 Alpha dvc carrier would be really funny
if alfaahhhhh dv holder i'll skip
If using Rosetta with Luna and Nirvatia.
Does Dark shred from Bathlon changes to Nihil shred as per Luna's Annihillator class?
Yep
feyer back ?
Any buff / debuff will convert to omni / universal buff & debuff
Except buff stage
yo @buoyant hornet mind giving me some tips for ss3 phys rot
Oh that's great. But buff from Cubs doesn't change right?
Like if Luna using CW's cub. Will it change Lightning bonus to Nihil?
who's better at SSS in nihil, ishmael or rosetta?
Ish ofc
After you equip it, yes
Though, signature cub is always preferred


Luna wata nirv
Luna honse nirv works
but which one is better, full nihil or one with off ele?
Ish is better

Imagine having crazy name
Crazy?
Damn i wonder who has it
Not you fraud
others got banned for less 
says the guy with 80k bc
Fatass
I never have 80k
Who are you taking about
Someone get bann too bcs saying this on their official discord
"genshin need more aniv reward"




This one too
Windbellao on stealing spree 

Pgr need more anniv reward


Forgot abt u


When is the anniv
now it indirectly says Bianca fingers me
a good day to be wanshi's gloves 
We need more names


So for kamui rotations in fire wz...
most guides tell me to do slam ult, dodge ult, and then slam dodge ult
but i feel like i get higher scores when i squeeze in 1 more ult after the last one
Wut rank
I think you forgot to make the difference
No

Wait
【232.3火批发传奇双怪2000w (2040w+) (*234344)-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/sKl0GsR
Is Kuro going to extremely inflate the HP of the upcoming PPC boss just so Kamui won't be able to deal with her?
Would they do such a thing?
Ofc not
I heard she just 35m hp
I'm not familiar with boss HPs, is that a small amount...?







