#📨・meta-help
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there is no fatty, scorpio is squishy
wanshi it is
must be fraudmael for the extra dmg with full nihil
3.2 wanshi vs 2.0 ish
you won't use her anyway, you use nirv dps
Hmm


guin
Wait
no
it's nirv dps rota, with fraudmael aboosing fred
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-LeO9DvolQ
Team investment:
[SSS] Nirvatia + 6* Weapon [8% ATK + 10% ATK]
4x Bulgakov + 4x Cottie [5x ATK + 1x Yellow + 6x Ult]
Morigan [10% Nihil + Nirv skill]
[SS3] Ishmael + 6* Weapon [Shred + Matrix]
4x Bathlon + 4x Fred [6x ATK + 4x ult + 2x class]
Diamaton [+100 ATK / + 10% Nihil + Ish skill]
[SSS] Oblivion + 6* Weapon [15% ATK]
4x Da Vinci + 2x E...
I am not wasting any resources to build fred ish
you don't have to, just slap lvl1 mems there brah
fred still work?
what about kfc
Kentucky fried chicken ?
closed for food poisoning 

make SS playable kuro
Not playable lmao
Them thinks
We all whel bro
K whel
Ss0 them just dich
Don't tell me this character is this brainded in ppc
You can 9/9/9
you should not attemp kamui on shorthalt
overseer
shourthalt using boid
prob only hell stage using kamui
Idk, Getting back to the game, I forgot how to PPC
nihil it 
what is the best resonnance for kamui
What if i had
3s void 3s fire
3s light and 3s ultima
Top atk bottom signature
no i mean his sig
Then you should probably start paying that mortgage 
Void in fire, fire in ultima and ultima in void
Mortgage?
the one that you gotta take to pay for allat
3s light max 10s
compare to kamui 9s
idk
u min maxing
Paking whel
But i guess go with that
But only do hell ultima overseer maybie
Said the 78k bc haver
My account bricked
Same
oh ya, u can login
pilot me

Wait i cant do light
Ish my light amp
guys look at what I got for 2 euro
Windlao do u perchance know ish build without Fred for ppc
Quick question guys
So, should I watch some guides on the game or just discover everything myself?

General guides for what the game is jus any guide will do
Rotation and team building ask here
Wait for who
So what's the strat
Rank?
s+
BRUH
actually 3s
SS3 should be able to do the same
ye ss3 will

extend duration?
Most likely
Real lmfao
alpha good?
dunno if chicken let them 10
Force 2 pay smh
What does chicken do
so its another liv?
kfc
energy already tight in her kit so no cottie , need another mem for extra energy
so if they use 4 chicken


there is no 8P kfc
too much fastfood
Another Liv ? Nah
Liv better than this
Ehhh
Gives energy I assume? Then it's useless
Trash vs garbage
She is energy independent
so ss0 alfa is worse than ss0 lif?
SS0 Liv works atleast without much issues

For now V1 SS0 Alpha is 💀
Works as well as a wet noodle hammering a nail
Still better than 💀
kamui does better than ss0 lif in her own ele
They’re both wet noodles
U have the pic of that?
I’ve been tryna find it
SS0 Alpha goes outside amp passive to ult ONCE

@graceful summit lemme skip alpha pls
Wbt s+?
Which type of good enough you mean?
I don't wanna go terrible ignition runs like this
Good means good

Rn it's around 31m for 444
Solo banana on top
Ice or ignition?

Does alpha refresh burn stacks?
On paper her ignition kit looks solid
...yeah right
I'm not letting you
Dawg
Anyone has 222 111 111 physical reference?
9s easy
that invest too hobbo
I tried following 2.32.32 122 111 but it didnt work out
lao comes back
2.3 Selena works way too different
SS3 Selena has human rights
SS0 is practically dead
Nuh uh


Why tf did i even pull midlena back then
Cuz she was good
No
Aw man
Thats vero's job
7-100 in shorthalt is all 9/9/9 kekw
Answered ur own question
Ty
@delicate pumice
@carmine roost here’s my proof
I was going to just 3s virgin but for some reason i pulled selena
Couple days late
Even at s+?
Dmc will rerun somewhere
222.3 vs22.33?
Attacker doesn't do that
yas
Unless breaker/amp
Liv stupidity frfr
Kamui extends plasma charge if qte(once per reset)
Vero refills(every ult) and give 7 stacks of ignition(once)
Is the rotation for it still awkward?
Like s+ alpha nanami vero team for example?
Light and glacio amp when
Duno
Hmmm
Alisa

Would be funny if selena got powercreep by sophia
Die

Why did you do it
I skipped all the nightmare stages
Not worth it
No rewards
K masochist
Out-Yuuka Yuuka herself
Nah, I don't think so
@mighty tusk first tap heroin
donno why i not get back to legend and get less than 6 place in my last legend
but yeah thats bracket was full of whels
also i get 3s to do han rot so need speed up
#punishinggrayraven #legendwarzone #ice #teddy #teddyspectre #ayla #wnshi #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone
i take out ur bones
3s honse vid where
Below that

I'm in need of an ultima team... https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters
Explore the 47 characters of xdsagecat from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Just put a phys tank in replacement of hanying
Nanami

B rank
ded gaem
Game cannot be this boring where u malding pinball machine event
Can I use Rosetta rigor instead?
bro there is no hanying replacement for ultima slash 
Phys shred good enough
his ass is just screwed
chat how do i play teddy
what do those numbers mean mason
The amount of stacks for the 2nd ult
Whel

This sh!t is so ass
i thought i was bricked
wdym whel
How does my darkflow team do so bad wtf
My dark team outpeforming
Broke whel
Lilith is letting me down
Cant whale enough for her
Donate please im not doing so good
Why dlt on lick
Every debutting s rank is meta
Do you know who is gonna cry?
What?
DAMN
Too funny im gonna die
but yeh im a rare baby still uses dante and vergil
Nah, I don't think it's that funny
Since it's an old joke
Old doesnt mean its bad
I think it's kinda lame that they did make Dante use king Cerberus
Depends
When you see it so many times it stops being funny
Wana VC?
You seem like a cool guy to talk to
Not in the moment unfortunately
I won't agree on that
Why didnt kuro make new alpha ultimate or physical...why didnt they make her compatible with Vergil
Like didnt this ever cross their minds
The casual players dont care about meta so its not for balancing
like
this is what people want
it kind of annoys me to think about
Woah woah
This is too much information for my simple and only brain cell I have
Let's just say this is all complicated to a new player
real question is why did they make alpha obsolete class?
why still focus on givin us old attackers?
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Obsolete what
OH MY GOSH
Obsolete means there's something to replace it
Attacker is dead class....Slave class....second class citizen of babylonia
If ur attacker ur already on life support
dont worry, ice breaker will replace her next month xD
ALPHA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NEW ATTACKER CLASS
Btw
Yknow whats funny
Shield breaker is half tank half attacker
DAMN
guess they still thinking bout what to give the attacker class to make it better, like what happened with breaker
Lightning ultima amp
or somethng
mfs made her a dead frame on release
5 months and she powercliffed
Got tanks and amps doing more dmg than attackers out here
Be gentle brother
So basically you're upset
For valid reason
Hmm
I don't see how it is
But when someone experienced is stating his opinion
I should follow the wind and see where it leads me
Dead class
Dead on release
attacker is ass
Not gonna last long
People are afraid to invest into alpha its that bad that was everyones first reaction. Why invest when she dooesnt bring anything new and will be benched in 5 months
You are new so you may not have the witness of horror
But here is some context
All this game does is confuses me
I'll go over the classes and their roles and the issue with attacker right now and then talk about some examples of
lets wait and see what beta people brings us

You're currently watching live ranting.
There is no information

When rosetta was announced they announced her with updated class
they just called alpha attacker no extra context
unless suprise
She is dead
My brain is gonna be fried
Just ignore him
Well, at least it's kinda interesting
No reason to follow further when alpha isn't even out yet
Rant all he wants but he don't realize just how garbage current ice team is 
Yeah, he is just stating his opinion
Everyone has a playstyle and how he enjoys the game
Tanks or Shield Breakers - Debuff enemies respect element resistences, Do off field shredding
Amps - Buff Players, Buff Effects Via healing buffs, and Do DMG
Attacks - have no versatility other than Damage their only Goal or aim in life it benefit of tanks and amps and do DMG.....For an attacker to be any good on a team they need to do dmg far superior to the other too to justify their buffs and debuffs and exist as a valid member of society
its a big shoe to fill because everyone is expecting attacker to score the goal after all the glaze essentially
However for a while now we have had a string of frames that are tanks or amps that do signifnicantly better than the attackers of their respect elements
ice is *ss
for real
Ice is A$$
Not true
Just one example got another?
You're just looking at the surface of everything to take things for granted
Ok let me think
Lightning no amp - So atk sucks due to no proper amp ok fine
Dark flow actually just sucks
Ice is A$$
U see my ping?
From before
indeed it just happens that some recent frames went from hit to miss and some attackers where weird, not a full attackers ar garbo
Who is phys attacker?
but its true that attackers are kicked out cause they just bring numbers, should bring sum more to stay "relevant" and not be replaced by another amp like qu
Pianissimo is still the dps for phys
Limp is still the dps for light
Luna is still the dps for nihil
Pyro still viable in fire as long as you just don't have weird invest
Well luna is more than just an attacker nihil characters are unique
She's just an attacker
There is no more gimmick
she has elemental conversion
Why are you making things up
What elemental conversion
Doesn't she?
dreams and hopes
Doesn't mean jackshi when there is already nihil tank and support
She's still just an attacker
People have put shakespear on ishmael memories to get higher numbers
That's because there is no 4pc nihil elemental
ohhh i see
I don't see your point
Well my point is luna has a bit more versatlity than the average attacker but yeh she just an attacker
Hey thats not nice



Is this what experienced gacha players arguments looks like?
sometimes
Ur next
GG for me
You just came at a bad hour
Nah this is just gacha players arguments

There's no experienced in this
I rmb when meclydra and magma had an argument about void, if Luna or Ishmael is holding it back lmao
Man I always come when all of the complicated things comes up
I've been playing this game for 5 years and I still don't understand anything
Holy fossil
Goddamn fossil
Mf
But you understand some of the game and mechanics
Still younger than ober I bet

Ober experienced the big bang
Yes
Specifically as the bullshi making experienced gacha players argument
I just joined last year


qu was murdered for ice to become the garbo that is today so alpha will bring us joy
DAMN
That hits hard ngl

With enough whaling anything is possible People will shame you for your choices but don't let

that discourage you, Whale to your hearts content, its healthy
My heart tells me to screw it up
We’re all larpers deep down
Garbage replaced with garbage but deals more dmg basically 
Yesyessurelyirresponsiblespendingishealthy
Oh yeah you can skip my ppc this week

Someone wanna borrow my acc
Wuduyumeanbydat..."Screw it up"
No it's too poor
I'd log in and see a lack of S+ and Die
Pak whel req what is this
Me too broke for 3s
I still don't want to see how alpha dmg is bricked because wanshi shred is too slow to even cover most of alpmid rot
Nah
It is?
Think they buffed wanshi shred appli
We'll see
Faster now
Ori go do joes rouge
Without leap out of nowhere?

wanshi leap
They really go all out on alpmid debut huh
Wanshi leap next patch.......Truss
Idk maybe because the qte shred field on his 2pc
100% Kuro told me wanshi leap
alpha patch wanshi and amp leap
double alpha glaze
Glaze where
You know, I always make gin leak 
Only thing glazed is her right boob
Thats my job
Like some hours ago

imagine we get
Alpha patch
Liv rerun
DMC Collab re run
Anniversary
Wanshi leap
All in one patch
XD
5 mids one stone
Depends
Yk uber has a great rack
Guy what's alpha memories?
Is there a build yet? 
Finally something I can talk about
About the DMC, they should do nero with Dante and vergil
He should be ignition I guess
And he is gonna be so fun to play with
Sure, 4 dv 2 gloria 2 eins

I mean i agree but nero should be an amp or breaker or something
Breaker I suggest
8 eins
Nero would actually fit into lightning/ultima amp because we dont have that spot filled
funny enough would fit his moveset
he would be on same team as vergil
since ultima XD
Did a slash amp ever exist
nope
Not yet
And not forget his bada$$ revolver
But physical works, unless they're the dps for some reason
K whel
The elements are not 1:1 translations they can be but they are also euphamisms to the aesthetics of abilities
For example
Dark is Dark
But can also be Blood, Water, miasma as showcased by bianca and Lamia
Nero lightning can be lightning as a result of his "Devil Breakers and how they are pseudo electronic devil machines, he has his overdrive DB With the electric fist and rocket gauntlets so it fits within the ajacent themes of lightning
Ultima cause well obvious
Technically if it was a 1:1 Nero would have like multiple elements
and multiple afixes
Another brain frying infos
Imagine reading
You can respond with brain fry but you are literally engagin in a conversation
Well, I am reading it

Isn't this the normal human being activity
We are a different breed
Gacha player and Normal dont fit in the same sentence
Actually we do read, We just read alternative timeline scripts
I don't think they would be able to add the devil breakers
I don't know about that
And how is that supposed to help
They would probably make it aesthetic only but the orb system they introduced dante allows for multiple weapons it was improved with rosetta as well and teddy
they can have atleast 5 weapons now
via the orb system
its doable
I like the orbs system on Rosetta, but it takes longer than others so I can do the ult
Well here are all the people who have the orb system i can think of
Rosetta
Teddy
Dante
Vergil
They all use the system differently and have 3-5 weapons
or something
But they choose Dr faust instead of king Cerberus
Amazing
Interesting
The system was developed for DMC and then Kuro realized how good it was and improved it for later characters without DMC we woudnt even have this multi weapon system
I Think that was an oversight of not having learned the technique of implementation
From Gen 2 to Gen 3 characters kuro has gotten drastically smarter in making characters
each char they make has a little of what the game didnt have before
I didn't know about that
Do you know what we call that
?
It's lame but I couldn't control myself
Like for example a major reason why gen3 chars do better than 2 outside of stats is that they get from point A to B to C in their moveset alot more efficiently
A Reason why a character like shukra is redudant now adays despite being the only ice attacker is purely that she takes too long to do dmg
People dont like Crimson weave for the same reason her dmg is actually pretty good a defining character but in the main game modes where time is everything there is too much fluff
Kuro has fixed that over the later release of characters
now u got kamui that can ult 3 times in 5 seconds and hanying that has leap to ult 6 times or soemthing i hear
Keyboard?
While I am here trying to upgrade crimson weave
I mean its fine u dont have liv. Liv is a limited char and the dmg is the worst thing its just how things go
You get used to keyboard, after so long you can just press the correct button without looking
KBD user most of my life only been controller below the ages of 10
If you notice that there's a small bump in some keys, thats literally the purpose to help you do that
Unfortunately or fortunately, I don't know at this point
I don't have it
No no I know this, but I am talking about the speed
The F and J?
Seems like normal speed for me
Yes
I knew it
Three is levels ts
So that's the purpose of that's annoying bumper
hi guys just getting into the game and wondering who to pick for my s rank and a rank for my basic 40 pull banner. i am literally like half way through graffiti art
Typing while looking at the keyboard is just a waste of time, so if you learn to type correctly without looking, you'd be saving a lot of time
Its quite simple, just get familiar with your keyboard
Starting with void slash is kinda lame but it's good in general
Rosetta arete

Fr fr
I know, I have been a keyboard user from when I was 6 yrs old
she does look super cool. is that like super yep no brainer option. vera also looks super cool, i do also want to get the new alpha... i lowk started playing cuz i saw videos. will she show up in this?
Im surprised you never realize why those little bumps exist
I didn't care about that
Actually they made me feel uncomfortable
Alpha will be on a limited banner so you should just get Rosetta from the basic one
She will arrive next patch
On June 2nd
Also don't use any of your black cards on the basic banner as you get enough blue tickets to pull through early game progression systems
okay awesome thanks a lot guys
Thanks for the motivation
does a rank choice matter or just pick whoever
Pick whoever you like yeh
It's a taste thing so pick whoever u like
bet thanks again
Good combo especially when using the guns after hitting the uppercut
But you should try more combos on vergil, like the judgement cuts and doppelganger with some Ariel conbo using the Yamato combo B Ariel and beowulf
But overall it's pretty good
Thanks bro/sis
What about this?
I Was more testing flashy transitions between father and daughter than anything else
It's also not just about the combo its also aabout not getting hit in this game it doesnt mean much but its also a much different game than DMC you got to set urself to a higher standard when Styling on enemies
Dalao discussion
Fodder doesnt touch peak
3s or bust
Sht
Midbanca
At least bonca still have some uses for Mob zone, idek how alpha gonna do now
Sorry for the late reply
I have a question
Did you play any dmc game before?
I see
Good point
Dmc glaze 
Yeah
But it was a very good combination in my opinion
I really liked it
DMC 5 and 3 didnt actually get into 4 all much
And i play bayonetta
Well, you're experienced
Tho I don't suggested playing 4 after 5
You would feel like it's repetitive
333 on hero? I got to wave 59 but got 16.2 mil
Get 8 more waves next time
Well 4 has more weapon opions than 5
5 is too limited weapon cancels are less
but i prefer 5 nero than 4 nero
Courtesy of: Shameless, Kuripuu, Setsugekwa (in order)
Also, u can just press the white orb instead of the special neon orb special
Huh?
In 4 you have Gilgamesh (Beowulf from temu) and the flower weapon which is useless, and the ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING PANDORA BOX
Plus the yamato
And ebony and Ivory with a shotgun
Godly wall of text
All tools were great to use and merely a matter of skill i like gilgamesh and the different dt variations too
I do not like SIN DT
It's too disengaging to the combt system
For gameplay yes
For design 4 is far superior
Bruda, dis is meta help
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1383785490360172584 is empty u can talk stylish non-meta stuff there extensively

They are both fine imo
I was outside for like
Meh it was mid
~~ gib me da moneh ~~
5 minutes
Fraudmod smh
Gin is a cutie
Excitement for finding someone I can finally talk with I say
Fr fr
Wouldn't be #🚀・off-topic-lobby be better?
Up to you. But pls dont clutter this channel anymore

DAMN THAT'S TOO SMOOTH
I sincerely apologize for that
tbf gen help isn't for that too but oh well
Slack mod
Fraud
Fraud mod smh
X and y no correlation
Watduhek Hella copium team
4dv 2catherine
Oh that alya
ty
What's Bero holding if not dv
Philip
Keats
4 Philip 2 keats 2 Richi or smth
2 eins trust
?
I mean
Watduhek is dis
With that kind of invest
I think you'd want Vero to deal something
So 4 Keats 4 philip
I forgor what 4 keats effect again
She gives the enemy a boob hug
Just a little damage buff for vero
So, what is the best memo build for Rosetta
If Rosetta SS0, 4 Nimue 4 Bathlon
For j 4 nimue 4 bathlon
The memo slots are cottie in 4 and 6?
Yes
Whats with sig then?
But is getting past ss have any benefits?
Ss0 is fine
Obviously there are, but she's useable at SS0
Sig turns kamui from 1 rotation only to 3-4 rots
Then if it's s0 what should I have as memos
Do u have signature weapon
Okay
Thanks for the infos
Yep
Then the build I gave u
Nimue bathlon it is
No
Which are?
There's Lilith, Teddy, both of em are free and they're used as Dps in their respective elements
Might as well build either one of em as Off element amplifer
I have the A rank one at ss2 maybe
A ranks arent worth to build, compared to the S ranks
So if I go Rosetta and teddy
What character should I have
Since you're new, you're definitely scarce in resources
Okay
Lilith would be your Dps in dark, teddy would be the buffer
Then I have to spend on Lilith
SS3 at least? Still no? 
I've had enough playing Wanshi
Rot yes dmg no
SS3 is probably the bare minimum for useable
Wait wait
I don't have s rank teddy
She's free from the service shop, get her
Wait ure wilde not ober 
Not even her ss3 qte nuke is worth it? Huh?
Nirvatia?
Everyone is falling for mommy smh
Mommy's issue y'all
Teddy more peak 💢 😭
Huh?
Bro her moves are great to me
She is recommended, though Teddy would be helpful first since her team are free, literally
-# You'll get both em eventually anyways
Well you'll get them all eventually tbh 
So if I get teddy
What should the other two characters be
Well, you're right
In dark team, your comp would be Lilith, Rosetta, and Teddy as a buffer
Okay, so now I have to build this three
In Ice, the comp would be Teddy, Wanshi, and another Amp, which Lilith can swap in
I feel soo stupid
-# Not sure if ice will change with SS0 midalpha
I don't have wnashi unfortunately
Wanshi's from dorm, he's free as well
You can refer to this section for free units
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1438530128912191648
Ss0 still good
But doesn't increase that much score
You can use her for a while until you get those units
So will die next ice breaker
I assume you've built her since thunderbolt guide exist
Well as of today's beta
Are you on pgr @worthy widget rn
No
Imma hop on yours then
Do my daily for me
Sure
No
Lazy fak
Then completely abandon her....
She cant compete with these new units, she's practically a 4 years old now
Well, almost
I mean, you can still use her if you like
There's just a cheaper option and its better metawise

Wtf 900mb update
New event or smth?
Still outrageous for a simple hot fix though
Ohhhh
What did they fix?
Nah it's just kuro's excellent storage optimization
Smh
Resource management when
I want to delete old story chapters
Wait is launa laurel good?
She's a 1st year unit
Damn
Alpha the opposite of meta
So it's a no

Yeh
So how should I build a team then


She's cooked already
I saw a post
So there is no need to spend on her when she gets released?
Yes

Idek myself, its still beta anyways
#📨・meta-help is always at complain mode 25/8
Things could change later

Beta started?
Well, I gotta save up until it's released then
I'll just keep her at ss0

Im bricking my account
Ss0 gang 
Is it cooked if she ain’t ss3
New Lucia after alpmid
Dam
Trust

DAMN
Bricking my account
Luna and Ishmael
Luna Ishmael nirvatia
I'm such a good boy
Or you can just slap rosetta in there
And the other character?
Obviously luna and Nirv
Hmmm
Where's my 4 dv 2 eins 2 cott nihil Kamui meta

You mean Luna oblivion right?
Yes
No wtf
Are you planning to unlock with voucher
What?
The whel has spoken
Damn
Go buy then
Paking whel
Says you
So what is the use of vouchers?
buy shards for rank ups
U talking to the guy
10th Windbell
Yoshiko
Yoshi for wz
Yoshiko lazy smh
Oh...
It's better than my idea actually
U make SS0 runs?
?








