📨・meta-help

[stone iris]

Now I need to pull for it

[simple dew]

bricc

[stone iris]

Ret showed me something about you

A real Kamui fan I see

[stray siren]

Based

[simple dew]

[spiral delta]

i know what you are

[opal oracle]

Playable as team?

[simple dew]

decemt

tho disable plasma

[spiral delta]

probably

cuz kamui is there

[stone iris]

Good enough

[opal oracle]

Okay

[stone iris]

Who am I

[simple dew]

an idiot sandwich

[spiral delta]

ss0 kamui first,use sculls from ppc shop if u unlocked it

[stone iris]

Oh

[opal oracle]

Yep i am working on ss0 kamui

[spiral delta]

🧱

[past raft]

Who is a better breaker?
Rosetta or Kamui ?

[graceful summit]

Kamui

Just stronger

If comparison about being a breaker then they're the same

[past raft]

So he deals more damage with similar investment?

[simple dew]

kamui by like a billion

[graceful summit]

Very much

[simple dew]

he gaps everyone like theyre gen 2

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Pak male

[spiral delta]

gey

[past raft]

Definetaly an unbiased opinion

[worthy widget]

Well he’s not lying

[graceful summit]

What if he is

What if I'm lying too

[worthy widget]

What if every1 is

Then no one’s lying

[graceful summit]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[spiral delta]

i didnt understand anything but sounds fire

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867718398208245761/1502357653467173054/image0.gif

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But if ur lying u did understand everything

[simple dew]

its actually true

the difference between vera and kamui is massive

[graceful summit]

You don't need to understand

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[graceful summit]

That's why larper exist

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I live to larp

[simple dew]

ss kamui offeles other bosses faster than vera kills gwyn

[past raft]

Lol

[stone iris]

It genuinely is

Kamui is a nuker

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444 light vs 444 plasma score

[stone iris]

20 against 51m

[past raft]

Does vertical investment works in PGR?

For example can a Nihil team with SSS all units get better score in Physical war zone than a SS0 Physical team?

I play Wuwa in there you can clear comfortably even with attribute resistance with S2-3 units.

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Long answer no

Short answer no

[simple dew]

no

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Ppc maybe

[simple dew]

for ppc yes wz hell no

[worthy widget]

Depends on boss

[normal sierra]

sss+ new beta clears everything solo

[simple dew]

kamui doesnt even need vertical

his base invest vaporizes anything

[worthy widget]

He genuinely outscored liv in cradle

[simple dew]

he genuinely outscored half the bosses

[normal sierra]

cradle is a bad example, old boss, squishy

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I wonder how his chiko score is

[past raft]

Base investment as in SS0 ?

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Ye

[simple dew]

624k

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[past raft]

He need DLT weapon reso right?

[normal sierra]

same as the choko chick, same hp

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Windlao milking tf outta kamui

He knows alpha gonna be mid asf

Wait my overseer score finally not bricked

Kamui to the save

[normal sierra]

hope that tin-can only appears when there is fat dude

[simple dew]

ss alpha takes like 7s to get her ult up

[worthy widget]

Ss3=3 sec right

Or smth

[simple dew]

3-4 somewhere thete

[normal sierra]

wow, skip for real 🚮

[worthy widget]

Paking hell

[past raft]

How many teams can Rosetta works as breaker?

[simple dew]

depends rank

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3s=any where trust

[past raft]

Oh nice.

[simple dew]

actually true

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[past raft]

I got an early on her. Now she is SS6.
Just need one more copy for SSS. I guess I will get it then

[simple dew]

works for dark, ice, nihil, darkflow, slash, disruption

[simple dew]

whel

[worthy widget]

Dark, df, ice, slash, nihil,

No roach no wata no issue

3s honse

Wait can she go in burn

Or does burn vero not do amp things correctly

[graceful summit]

Burn Rosetta is just very copey

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Yea ik

I played it

[simple dew]

i doubtttt

if already then kamui would be better there

[worthy widget]

I forgot about him

Oop

[past raft]

For teams other than dark which memory set she will run to run as breaker?

[simple dew]

4 dv 4 ele/4 dv 2 gloria 2 eins

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Ice=4dv 2 Gloria 2 eins

[simple dew]

depends if some alr has ele

[past raft]

Thx

[past raft]

I assume memory reso for bottom is Class Skill +1 right? or still Sig+1?

[delicate pumice]

Support

Is class skill

Dps is sig

[simple dew]

whel doing reso on support sets

[delicate pumice]

K 3s kamui

[past raft]

Oh you don't need reso on support set?

[wet wren]

Hello chat

i need the sweat and blood tour to happen now

[delicate pumice]

Only if ur rich

[past raft]

Lol. I guess I will skip it.
Already low on tokens while building so many units b2b

[slate gull]

skip alpha

[past raft]

Top 3 Memory gives HP and Crit
While bottom 3 gives Attack and Def

What about the memory from weapon harmony?
Is it considered top or bottom memory?

[worthy widget]

That’s a good question

But I think it just gives the set effect

[slate gull]

im a top, and if you're a bottom, then we can do something about it

[past raft]

So if I use 4dv 2 Eins 2Gloria.

Since Gloria is 5* memory with much less attack and HP. Better to run it in harmony?

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U can’t harmony 5* memo

[slate gull]

you cant

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Eins goes to harmony

[past raft]

Oh I guess then I would use it in top.

[slate gull]

that's a qte build, doesnt matter

[smoky merlin]

i've seen Alpha's new frame. Do i download the game again yes or no (last character i got was Rosetta 2.0, but i don't have teddy)

[graceful summit]

Pls don't relapse to this god forsaken game

[stone iris]

It depends what made you quit

[smoky merlin]

heh, i just stopped playing ig

[stone iris]

If that wasn't fixed then stay out

[past raft]

Does Qte support stays off field all the time?

[stone iris]

Then see fit yourself

[worthy widget]

Rosetta in ice team yes

[stone iris]

No at least not in some teams

Like void fire plasma team

[graceful summit]

People be throwing that term these days

Even though support and qte bot ain't the same thing

[worthy widget]

Merge the 2

[stone iris]

What do you want us to do put it slowly on the ground

[worthy widget]

Just hold it smh

Why throw it

[stone iris]

Because it's trash

What does 'qte" even stands for

[worthy widget]

Quick time event

[stone iris]

Quotation the equation?

[stone iris]

That sounds even more trash

[graceful summit]

...
It's literally right there

[worthy widget]

Qte=question the existence

Jump out and jump scare

[stone iris]

Me want to make a damn joke

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[past raft]

So in teams where Qte Support have field time,

I guess will need memory reso then? If not damage will be low ...

[simple dew]

their dmg will be 0 either way since penality

[stone iris]

No not needed it very fast so dlt is useless damage reso doesn't matter

But amp reso will be very useful

[graceful summit]

memory reso
Dlt?

Hwa

[graceful summit]

Depends

If it's like vera fire support and nirvatia nihil support they still do noticable damage

Lilith plasma not so much tho

[stone iris]

I didn't complete my sentence give up half way

[worthy widget]

@graceful summit would a 3rot honse+ dv bath wata be better than a 4ult bonca

[graceful summit]

Tf is a 4ult bianca even

[worthy widget]

My own cooking

Duh

232.3 invest goes weird ways

[graceful summit]

Seems like a skill issue to me

[worthy widget]

So can dv bath wata work

Lilith sub dps

[young badge]

yes

but ur lilick is ss3

shes doing wet noodle dmg

[worthy widget]

But I have a 2.0 bonca

Wet noodle vs wet noodle

[past raft]

What's this penalty?

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Off element in wz

[normal sierra]

wz off element penalty

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[normal sierra]

it's something like 0.3x dmg for anyone who's not the correct element

[past raft]

Oh there's even a penalty in WZ for off element

[worthy widget]

Straight wet noodle dmg

[worthy widget]

Imagine wuwa havoc resist 10x

And ur using phrovola

[past raft]

Damn PGR is another level lol

[worthy widget]

No vertical invests

Wuwa is same 2 teams dominate wiwa

[past raft]

In Wuwa the first character I got was S3 Phrolova and game became too easy .She cleared everything regardless of resistance. Lol

Not possible in PGR I guess.

[delicate pumice]

With the sole exception of Kamui

His plasma equal score lightning at certain invest

[past raft]

Let's see maybe there more units like him in Future...

[rose yew]

You can clear it’s just extremely low score that it’s irrelevant

[deft apex]

To be fair wz debuff is for correct element/affix family is lower

[normal sierra]

0.8x or something, I think

[deft apex]

Yea i think it was 0.5 for ion and 0.75 for glow

Vs 0.3 for anything else

[normal sierra]

I just remember that convo we had about this some time ago
about that "slightly increased" text there actually being "less debuffed" instead lul

kuso and their misleading descriptions

[still moat]

it is a slight increase from 0.3

[normal sierra]

that's not what the context implies in the actual description

[still moat]

prove it

[normal sierra]

prove what?

[worthy widget]

Prove u not whel

[normal sierra]

[half iris]

what memories should i use in this cope ass lighting team?
for breaker ishmael and for luna

[normal sierra]

fraudmael won't be breaker there

[half iris]

this is for ppc

[half iris]

wait why

it says breaker :((((

[normal sierra]

doesn't matter, nonomi is tank there, so ish is amp

[half iris]

is there any way i can get ishmael to be a breaker here?

[rose yew]

Crimson weave

[half iris]

nice

but when i put alpha...ishmael doesnt say breaker

oh wait

it does

nvm

[rose yew]

But in that team she is breaker

[normal sierra]

use the wulf, the only way, but at that point, it's not really a valid zappy team, even as a cope one

[rose yew]

Even if the game doesn’t show

[half iris]

im using it for ppc. i have alpha and 21, would they be better instead of ishmael?

[normal sierra]

send huaxu, then we can see wut you have

[half iris]

i have everyone except liv i think

https://huaxu.app/eu/players/15031932/characters

[normal sierra]

but we need to see wut invest you have, and not just on zappy team if you want ppc advice

[carmine roost]

Source: trust me bro

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There is a photo of it

[carmine roost]

Drop

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Go Ls

And ping ret

[carmine roost]

I don't even know what that is

[worthy widget]

I think he has it

[carmine roost]

Just drop it here

[worthy widget]

I’m mid dark wz bro

[carmine roost]

Hell nawh

Bro malding on slack week

[worthy widget]

Just wanna try smth out rq

Cot honse with dv bath wata

[deft apex]

Liar ur typing rn

[half iris]

think I'll do this?

[deft apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363151958164373734/1502277994197160046/65fts19okp7ondn1dfaev8ukz.gif

[half iris]

with dlt on nanami though

[normal sierra]

uhh, tuff choices
but wait, you doing ult ppc or whel ppc?

[deft apex]

Cw

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Wtf did I just do

[half iris]

whel

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I just 7 ping on bonca

[half iris]

i just want to get 600k or so to unlock the extensive ppc or whatever

i already got 600k on melnoie, 580k on monazo

[normal sierra]

that is the whel ppc, you need 1.8m for that

so you doing ult ppc now

[half iris]

ohhh

yeah

ult ppc then

[normal sierra]

who did you use on choco chick? kamui?

[half iris]

Melinoe?

[normal sierra]

no, choco chick is monzano lul

[half iris]

i used dark team on her, and for monazo i used glacition

i could try kamui team on monazo

[normal sierra]

ohh, then you hab kamui, so just use him at cradli

he's much better than your zappy team

[half iris]

oh fr

so i just use the fire team?

[normal sierra]

yes

[half iris]

ik he likes shakes more but ive already got his sig memory set resonated and hypertuned, so whatever

at least vera has shakes

[normal sierra]

you need to swap to ppc setup, or he loses a lot of dmg there

[half iris]

tell me what to dod

[normal sierra]

even if you don't wanna change kamui mems, at least fix your qte bots

[deft apex]

Dang everyone and their mother having shakes

[half iris]

how so

[deft apex]

Except kamui

[half iris]

https://tenor.com/view/gnar-league-of-legends-league-cool-cool-guy-gif-24674690

[normal sierra]

alphonse is not needed there and cottie is not needed on anyone but kamui

[half iris]

okay then, i'll put guinvere on vera 2pc

and what instead of alphonse on wata?

[normal sierra]

shake + dv on wata
guine + einst + gloria on vera

[half iris]

okay

[normal sierra]

if you have some class resos on vera/wata sets already, you can swap around the non-heal mems

so that you have more class mem resos

if you don't have class resos, it's wuteva, you can even use lvl 1 mems, just use the correct sets

[carmine roost]

What rank is your epitaph tho

[half iris]

ss3

[carmine roost]

Oh yeah

He can definitely use Alphonse lol

[normal sierra]

it's ppc brah

[carmine roost]

Why are you using feyman on kamui anyway

[carmine roost]

Oh ok then

Wait, feyman good for PPC?

[half iris]

no

i already had it

[normal sierra]

he prolly made the set before knowing wuts best on him

[half iris]

^

tbh i can make a shakes one for him

[normal sierra]

nahh

[half iris]

if i put shakes on kamui, what would wata use with his 4pc davinci?

[normal sierra]

gloria + einst on him then

[half iris]

gloria and eins in on vera

[normal sierra]

vera uses guine + samantha

[half iris]

ah

okay

ill do that

[normal sierra]

if you need some kimochi ppc rota, can check windball channel, he got a carpload of that now

[half iris]

thanks :D

Crazy how kamui can just brute force off-element bosses

[deft apex]

He da bomb

Now be disappointed when the "dps" role coming out aka alpha does extremely worse than him

[half iris]

shouldve beeen breaker

[carmine roost]

PPC has always been a joke

You can off ele PPC as long as you have enough dmg

SSS+ cw solo'ing every PPC boss on her prime:

[half iris]

yeah, but that's whale

im just a f2p who doesnt know his rotations that well

kamui busted

[carmine roost]

For non whel, u have Glacio Selena on slash PPC boss

U technically can just use her on other boss too

But you probably have other team too at that case no

SSS loona is "technically" free too nowadays

[normal sierra]

ss3 midlena did 19s on hell with a well invested team
not even comparable to kimochi boi, even if he's only ss0

[half iris]

i know my wz rosetta rotation, but what should bianca do? i know it's not hold blue

my bianca is ss0 r1

[delicate pumice]

Watch nuke017 latest video

My score drop 3 mil

[half iris]

thanks

[half iris]

he's using SS ishmael, i have SSS lillith, i should use lillith instead right?

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3s Lilith benches 2s bonca

[half iris]

wait fr

[worthy widget]

Yea

[half iris]

so then what would my wz dark team be

ishamel lillith rosetta?

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R2 amp where

Wha no

Classless ish

[half iris]

r2 amp is lillith

i kinda hyper invested lillith

so shes r2 SSS

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Put a vera in there

[half iris]

cool

[worthy widget]

Sar

Gs and dlt on Lilith

[half iris]

anything change on lillith's rotation?

[worthy widget]

That not sure

[half iris]

or is it still the 3 cards ult into 5 cards ult or something i dont remember

okay thanks for the info, i didnt know sss lillith was that good

[worthy widget]

Well

2s bonca just sucks

[half iris]

[hard sparrow]

Guys help! Who should I pull? Kamui or Rosetta? I'm also planning to get alpha with her weap, so I'm having a hard time deciding 😭

I can get Rosetta from the wishing banner which is half the price, so I'm considering her

[worthy widget]

Ur basic banner used up already?

Ur 7 pulls away from kamui just get him

You’ll have enough to get all of alpha’s things anyway

[hard sparrow]

Yeah I already used it long time ago, or unless it resets and there's a time limit?

[hard sparrow]

What about Rosetta from the wishing target?

If I get them both, I can also ss0 them and get their weapon. But I won't be able to get alpha

[safe delta]

do y'all have rotation for SS, 2 amp dark team?

[safe delta]

just get them both ngl

[pulsar estuary]

It resets in anniv so gonna be a while

[pulsar estuary]

Unless you have a spare black cards for the upcoming s rank, better not to do it

[barren plank]

Is Nana and Kamui shred stack gonna stay a thing or will Kuro eventually hotfix it like they did Scire and Wata

[safe delta]

alpha might be phylotree anyway so just pull kamui atp

[hard sparrow]

Thanks for answering

[thorn creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1136681091013550200.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[slow cobalt]

half the price for the first 10 pull that is

[carmine roost]

Since alpha is phylo, prioritize her

Can get Rosetta on whatever rerun in the future

Even if SS0 alpha sucks, probably still better in comparison to teddy dps

unless it doesn't and Kuro Fck up

[wanton hatch]

5 u-

[feral flume]

Just skip alpha wait for ice breaker that will bench her again

[wanton hatch]

the Alpha fanboys gonna 3s her anyway

win-win

[mighty tusk]

if it meant ice breaker is gonna kick her out, I'm in

[pulsar estuary]

Imagine pulling alpha smh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[wanton hatch]

imagine pulling

I can't even pull

[pulsar estuary]

Imagine

[wanton hatch]

Ober lemme pull on ur acc

I swear I'm lucky

[pulsar estuary]

Fight with willde for it

He wanna pull asw

[wanton hatch]

we each pull 10

[pulsar estuary]

Me broke anyways, can only do that much

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[wanton hatch]

[buoyant hornet]

I think ss3 alpha might be safe from ss0 ice breaker

So if you have no plans to ss3 her at all and you're not very well-off on BC, you can consider skipping temporarily but we'll have to see live release Alpha first

[carmine roost]

SS0 4 lyfe

[simple dew]

"half the price"

[pulsar estuary]

Heard she's a Phylo Crucible type

[simple dew]

@buoyant hornet

[pulsar estuary]

I wonder if we'll get one for free

[carmine roost]

Got a 50% discount

[simple dew]

what did we talk about

[pulsar estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-meme-seiun-sky-laughing-ishowspeed-gif-14113194394369007579

[buoyant hornet]

Fell for the scam award

[true valve]

Is it worth pulling for the new kamui frame when I got epitaph already?

[pulsar estuary]

Very worth it

He's the mdps of fire team in low invest

[buoyant hornet]

Pookie that's just a 1250 ticket discount overall, it's not a real 50% off of a character copy lol

It's just misleading wording to make it look like a substantial discount

[true valve]

Although I got pyroath already?

[simple dew]

must have

[buoyant hornet]

Lol kamui and wata are not the slightest bit comparable

[pulsar estuary]

Yea about that, He powercreeps her in damage

[simple dew]

kamui strongest chara by a landslide

[pulsar estuary]

Unless you play 333 or higher idk

[buoyant hornet]

They do work in tandem in a lot of cases but kamui is necessary

[true valve]

Noooo, my precious Lucia

[simple dew]

he kills both

[buoyant hornet]

The fact that ss0 kamui outdps half the current meta cast at SSS

[simple dew]

[pulsar estuary]

So stronk he can be used as off ele dps in ppc

Smh

[buoyant hornet]

Pyro also does poop dmg compared to him

But if your wata is less than ss3 your Lucia gets to stay

[simple dew]

isnt ss wata better than ss ploom

[buoyant hornet]

Iirc ss3 wata ≤ ss0 Lucia in wz?

There's very little testing done so far

[buoyant hornet]

Nope definitely not

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

He contributes nothing

At least Lucia has some semblance of dmg

[pulsar estuary]

Almost everyone has 3s wata atp smh

Is there even anyone with 2.3 wata

[buoyant hornet]

You'd be surprised how many don't

[pulsar estuary]

-# Im one of them asw

[buoyant hornet]

It's just a lot of them don't test and/or upload meta

[pulsar estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-meme-seiun-sky-laughing-ishowspeed-gif-14113194394369007579

[buoyant hornet]

Hmm pilot test candidate

[pulsar estuary]

My fire bricked 22.32 inv smh

[buoyant hornet]

Who am I kidding I'm way too burned out to test anything in this game lol

[carmine roost]

SS0 unc = SS0 pyro
SS3 unc = SS3 pyro
SSS unc > SSS pyro

Smh

Reso don't matter, equal reso has negligible difference

[buoyant hornet]

Is this already confirmed or are you joking? Need this info to update the character chart

[carmine roost]

R1 pyro with ga, r1 unc with dd

[buoyant hornet]

Lol

[carmine roost]

Maybe legend would give you a bit upper hand with DD unc

[weary hedge]

I kinda just wanna go for it

[carmine roost]

But besides that kamui already overkills anyway

[buoyant hornet]

So 222 fire with wata can actually do 15m like Lucia?

[carmine roost]

Wait for alpha stream first tbh, they might just throw a random free selector by that point

[pulsar estuary]

He scored 15 in fire with 222 inv last week

[carmine roost]

222.3 max reso is already 15.6m in hero

[weary hedge]

Do ya know when the next stream is?

[carmine roost]

Well not max

Just what's necessary

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao

[carmine roost]

Dlt, DD, amp reso, ga

No matrix or incan

Pyro 222 133 14.8m in hero (SS cub def can get 15m hero)
Unc 222.3 231 15.6m in hero

[buoyant hornet]

Ic

[carmine roost]

Nope

[pulsar estuary]

Paking nude invest

[buoyant hornet]

23rd

[weary hedge]

Thx

[carmine roost]

2.322 133 was like 15.5m or something

SS3 pyro

[carmine roost]

Honestly, with new rot I found I think 222 with s cub can get 15m already on hero boss lol

That week run end with vera ult1

New rot end with 5 ult kamui + matrix + refreshed Sunfire buff + 180 stack slam after the first slam

Def more dmg than no buff 2 ult

[pulsar estuary]

Too bad its mob now, score sucks ass

[carmine roost]

222 getting 10m only

Lmao

[pulsar estuary]

And the void getting chopped as hell

Not only its shield, mob asw

[buoyant hornet]

Garbage week he whiffs half his yellows

[pulsar estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[buoyant hornet]

It's a straight up -1 wave per whiff it's stupid

Somehow worse than lilith red bug

So somehow ss0 wata is equal to ss0 pyro lol that's unexpected

[simple dew]

THATS WHY SHES THE GOAT

TGE GOAT

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[buoyant hornet]

No I meant I'll surprised wata is the one keeping up

With his imaginary dmg ss0

[simple dew]

ugly men

ew

[carmine roost]

This apply to hero

He keeping up solely cuz he can bring DD

Actually, r0 ss0 wata does nothing but dv eins

That is NOT gonna do more than pyro do

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I'll prolly test lucia in legend but this week is stupid to test on because kamui rng

[carmine roost]

Honestly doing all of these testing is great especially with multiple different invest

But I feel like of I'm getting like 300k or less difference between 2 diff invest with avg scoring is like over 10m now, that diff seems very negligible to be taken seriously lmao

Whichever option will do you just fine as long as it's not losing 500k to you

Not like your average players besides some small group like around here is even capable to push score that far considering the amount of optimization you do with this team

By this rate, I'm pretty sure I'll be learning proper dark rot once new attacker/amp come out to change the current dark rot lmfao

[buoyant hornet]

Sooo I'm gonna assume kuro did NOT drop a hotfix for kamui yellow?

[carmine roost]

Still hate how honse played

[buoyant hornet]

I've noticed that with a lot of teams lmao

Ice and dark especially

You can use different strats/rot variations to fish for different breakpoints and then end up with the same net wave clears on that swap 😭

[graceful summit]

Too bad
They did all the bugfixing they need on kamui already

-# to fix the not so bug

[buoyant hornet]

Wdym by proper dark rot what's your dark invest lol

Oh no sss wata lmao

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah I have a feeling they'll call it a day after the week 1-2 fixes and.....that "fix"

[carmine roost]

All the same

222 with Bianca lilith

222 bianca ish

223 house Lilith unc

I have exactly

0 idea

How to mald properly

Unlike fire, ice, phys pre Hanying leap, Glacio and ray

[buoyant hornet]

Genuinely 70% or rose's breakpoints come down to determining whether it's beneficial to use red taps before the first red>ult

2nd ult variations are mostly a lie

[carmine roost]

With those teams I know 1 or 2 tricks to clear annoying 1 hp or +1wave progression without changing invest

[buoyant hornet]

Red arrow > yellow tap ult
Red arrow + red taps
Blue spear drag
Tap yellow spam

Like 90% of the time all do the exact same thing

[steady otter]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1363151958164373734/1502277994197160046/65fts19okp7ondn1dfaev8ukz.gif

[buoyant hornet]

Broke ppc lao is here

[steady otter]

Im learning broke wz from ur conversation

Pls continue

[buoyant hornet]

Depends on the degree of poverty you're talking about I can help

[carmine roost]

There's nothing to learn

[buoyant hornet]

I used to lab super poverty invest but no more motivation I fear

[carmine roost]

Well if you know how a character work, you're pretty much knows 90% of what you should do with broke inv tbf

.

Fundamental knowledge gives you a significantly easier method to learn a chara and a full team

[buoyant hornet]

Also for 2.12.13 void (full void units) I've so far found the most consistent/simplest strat is just 322 rot (luna opener 2rot > ish 3rot > 2 nirvatia > 2 Luna) @deft apex

Cottie dv nirvatia lmao

[carmine roost]

Considering how flexible the current fire team

Doing 0 reso run is possible without bricking score too much

Non dlt kamui rot

1 rot 4 Guin 2 shaman 2 eins vera

1 rot pyro/wata

Actually

Time to try

I'm bored anyway
Slack week

[pulsar estuary]

[buoyant hornet]

Non dlt kamui is pretty strong but super bottlenecked lmao better than nothing still

[pulsar estuary]

Imagine malding mob

[buoyant hornet]

Some units can't do anything at all with r0

[mighty tusk]

it's why I'm logging in wz tomorrow

pak mob zone

[steady otter]

Selling ur sanity to mobs zone

Hell nah

[pulsar estuary]

Wantap it is

[buoyant hornet]

I just hope they patch his ACTUAL yellow bug

Before the patch ends

Or we'll be stuck with yet another character dysfunctional against the mob zones that they keep shoving down our throats

[carmine roost]

Selling what?

[mighty tusk]

I'll only mald phy this week

[buoyant hornet]

Void mob is just whiffing party, Luna qte whiff nirvatia random yellow whiff

[carmine roost]

Very bold of u to think I still had any in the first place

[pulsar estuary]

Do you even had one before

[carmine roost]

No

I'm actually not smart or genius

I'm just dum

And autistic

Got that stronk tism

[steady otter]

Ok S+ siren

[hard sparrow]

Is that okay? I mean she's limited, and I won't be able to get her anytime soon if I skipped her now. Although, I can only ss0 her🥲 just like liv (she's still pretty strong even at ss0, I hope alpha does too)

[mighty tusk]

I dont recommend skipping alpha

especially with burn

[steady otter]

Even alpha is trash, but u still need every element completed

[carmine roost]

Skipping alpha is fine in terms of team composition.

Teddy and wanshi is enough to carry hero, burn is optional especially cuz there is no burn PPC boss

It just that her being a fcking phylo or whatever tf it is

[hard sparrow]

My acc is already bricked when I don't have the 2 new breaker class🥲😭

[carmine roost]

Once gone, can't get sig

[steady otter]

Ok get kamui first

[carmine roost]

Shout-out to my homies with ss0 5* Liv since debut

[mighty tusk]

people be recommending skipping a unit and wonder why the element suffers even further

get them all

[buoyant hornet]

If your wanshi is bricked aka below SSS, alpha may still be of value to you long-term (keyword: MAY)

Skipping her is technically a risk because we don't know how good ice breaker will be, and we don't know how well ss0 alpha will be in final release

But it's like a 60-70% chance she gets outdone or is equal to an ss0 breaker + Ss3-SSS wanshi + teddy team

[graceful summit]

5* liv can't even double ult all the way

[hard sparrow]

To this day, I still don't know the right rotation to get High scores with teddy

[steady otter]

Slam the button
Random bullsht go

[carmine roost]

Like if it wasn't for the fact we have kamui debut AND 100% honse rerun, if alpha wasn't phylo, skipping her might actually a good idea

It's just that because she is phylo, it's invalid

[carmine roost]

-# just watch my yt channel

[mighty tusk]

then people better pray they dont do the funny stuff of buffing a unit post-release

[buoyant hornet]

Also if you have ANY SSS gen 3 tank (hanging, wata, nanami, etc) they might still be better than ss3 wanshi/ss0 alpha

[graceful summit]

Need 1 ult opener

[mighty tusk]

so people can justfiy skipping

[graceful summit]

Love with when my internet just gone for some reason

[steady otter]

Beta global when

[mighty tusk]

none

[hard sparrow]

Okay, I will pull alpha then and just hope that her damage is comparable to kamui

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly I wouldn't even recommend skipping her unless someone is REALLY in a serious currency deficit for some reason

[steady otter]

We have it before

[mighty tusk]

oh boy

[steady otter]

I got kamui beta

Maybe alpha as well

[buoyant hornet]

Ss0 alpha comparable to kamui is neigh-impossible unfortunately, kuro loves to brick ss0 attackers especially phylotrash

[carmine roost]

Unlikely tbh

Especially with how slow wanshi shred is

Maybe 3s wanshi could help

But we can only wish

[buoyant hornet]

There's something about his mem set that I can't say here lmao

[carmine roost]

Kamui and honse is breaker, tank shred on them is guaranteed

Not for attackers

[buoyant hornet]

If you know you know

[mighty tusk]

he knows

maybe

[graceful summit]

I mean the least they can do is make her stronger than teddy at same invest

[steady otter]

Some sus conversation here

[buoyant hornet]

Genuinely for a 3s wanshi + breaker to be even equal to ss0 alpha the breaker would have to be weaker than nanami or something

Which is kinda impossible

Unless....

[mighty tusk]

or ice breaker receives the veronica treatment

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao I think that's heavily unlikely too, most I expect is being stronger than sss wanshi

But maybe they'll surprise us

[buoyant hornet]

Honestly I don't think they even wanna do that anymore, these days they're ramping up the power creep to sell more and more

They dgaf about balance

[graceful summit]

I mean I'd be fine if ss0 alpha is weaker than sss teddy or something
But compared to ss0 teddy, c'mon bruv

[simple dew]

s0 teddy

[graceful summit]

Peak game balancing

[steady otter]

Apple to apple

[buoyant hornet]

I mean she'll def be better than ss3 teddy HOPEFULLY

[steady otter]

[simple dew]

lets go wanshi kamui teddy

peak ice

[hard sparrow]

I guess I'm just gonna have to wait for updates 😭🙏, and decide if I will pull her or not

[buoyant hornet]

I mean that's what my ice team is rn actually

2 strike hawks in the same team

Never seen before scenario

[steady otter]

Careful

[buoyant hornet]

Oh wait

[mighty tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1476538383319961610/1503625276431532112/C593D9996A0FCADEC9B1F774DAB48E0D.gif

[buoyant hornet]

Lmfao

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1029977870086459412.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=livrun&lossless=true

time to run

[steady otter]

[buoyant hornet]

There is no alpha beta in ba sing se

[steady otter]

No one saw that ok

[hazy sandal]

Sure noone saw that

[buoyant hornet]

Can they just open the public beta already

What's their problem lol

[simple dew]

making hype

beta probably on 23rd

[buoyant hornet]

Mind you the stream is on the 23rd which means the beta will likely have to end before it iirc

So atp we'll literally have like 7 days of public beta

#balance

[simple dew]

theyre making peak progress there trust

[buoyant hornet]

V2 and v3 beta: nerf ice ss0 alpha and buff ss3 ice alpha

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

Balance is all that matters folks

[simple dew]

make her a burn bot as well

[buoyant hornet]

Watch ss0 kamui outdps her in burn ☠️☠️☠️☠️

[simple dew]

[carmine roost]

I genuinely have 0 faith in Kuro to even start considering ice breaker to fix anything in alpha ice team

At least ss0 Ice sucks tho

Dmg distribution, downtime

Shoving up alpha to it is ez

Whether they deal equal if not more dmg than her already

It's kinda interesting that teddy rot is long asf

If teddy rot were as short as vera double rot, qu wouldn't have been got kicked out

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

Teddy rot being long is probably gonna be her downfall too in alpha ice team

Shoving full rot only seems doable as her being sub dps

Meaning wanshi put as dv bot

Chen is in risk

Unless alpha hold it

But who knows

[wanton hatch]

sig dv tedds?

[peak halo]

Sig guin

[carmine roost]

theorycrafting can't get you anywhere in this game

Only result matters

[wanton hatch]

[peak halo]

Sadly

[wanton hatch]

fk who knows what kuro gonna throw at us

[peak halo]

But we only had theorycrafting yet

[carmine roost]

Wdym

We already have results for Kamui all invest

[wanton hatch]

pls make alpha an actually good attacker or something

[graceful summit]

I mean I'm pretty sure she would
The winds are telling me cottie won't work on her

Or Chen on teddy maybe

[carmine roost]

Lmfao

[wanton hatch]

same thing as old fire then

[carmine roost]

But imagine no cottie alpha

[wanton hatch]

she use Frederick trust

[graceful summit]

Something something special energy mechanic something something

[carmine roost]

She's gen 3.5 attacker

[wanton hatch]

need to full combo string to get sp fr

[carmine roost]

-# def not inspired by dlss 4.5

Anyway

Based on what I've seen

Why's her ult dmg like that, I'd assume they'd actually fix it and makes it like Rosetta or Kamui ult
Lmao

If not that would be so garbage

[peak halo]

[wanton hatch]

I have no clue

what we are talking about actually

Yoshi send in dm

[carmine roost]

[peak halo]

Yoshi have a breakdown

[carmine roost]

It's probably just beta thing

If you were to stuck on 1hp mob, there's nothing you can do lulw

[peak halo]

True

[graceful summit]

Teddy's off field proc trust

[carmine roost]

Teddy has off field?

[peak halo]

Yep

[carmine roost]

Well, to be REALLY honest

Since teddy out, wanshi didn't really get 1hp mobs on ult as often anymore despite spamming more ult than before per rot

So I'd assume teddy field did fix something about that

Teddy field on ray deals pretty decent dmg too

[peak halo]

Ice will still sht

[carmine roost]

Can't break breaker score = shtteam

[peak halo]

No

I just not like the team gamplay

[carmine roost]

Oh

You have a point

3 rot wanshi lame

[peak halo]

Wanshi the main factor

Teddy rot atleast fun

[carmine roost]

Ice with qu was more unique smh

You get to choose between 2 rot and 3 rot wanshi depending on breakpoint

Fun

[peak halo]

I liked solo qu the most

[carmine roost]

Based opinion

[graceful summit]

🔴 🔴 🔵 🔴 🔵 🔵

Sht unique indeed

[carmine roost]

If you've actually malded qu, that's not possible tbh

[peak halo]

[carmine roost]

[graceful summit]

[carmine roost]

At best you get

🔴 🔴 🟡 🟡 🔵 🔵 🔵

Past 1st rot

[peak halo]

[carmine roost]

Can't get worse than that

[peak halo]

First rot was always decide everyting

[rough mica]

🔴🟡🔵🔴🟡🔵

[carmine roost]

1st ult guaranteed by matrix, 2nd ult is where you pray for 133 orb lmao

There's nothing else you can do, only pray for 133

[wanton hatch]

🔴 🔴 🟡 🔴 🔵 🔵 🟡

[peak halo]

Cuz qu always forgot her orbs started on 8 or 9

[carmine roost]

Not a thing

[peak halo]

After ult

[carmine roost]

Qu automatically rearrange orb

[carmine roost]

It's 7

Not more, not less

Unless dlt came

[peak halo]

[wanton hatch]

she's weird to use below 3s

or maybe 3s is weirder

[carmine roost]

It's where qu genuinely ate the rest of your orb despite you have more for 2nd rot

You will have 7 orb after ult and not more

[carmine roost]

Nah atleast 3s is pretty consistent with cottie

[peak halo]

3s is ezier
Its more problem u needed speed

[carmine roost]

This

[pulsar estuary]

Wat, SS qu isnt that weird, just hella annoying

Mf keeps getting staggered all the time

[carmine roost]

Very maldy yes

[pulsar estuary]

[wanton hatch]

3s not have the orb issue tho

[carmine roost]

Stagger one of the problem too

[peak halo]

Orb system was sht
Stagger is everywhere

[wanton hatch]

I remember Zex saying she doesn't get staggered if used properly

or was that for 3s thing

[carmine roost]

Like Rosetta before burst, qu was spending a bit too much time just to fill gauge with orbs

[pulsar estuary]

Idek about that, mine's only ss3

And i fed her sig already

[peak halo]

U not getting stagger if enought fast

[pulsar estuary]

[carmine roost]

"Used properly"

Is just dodging after every orb

[peak halo]

Even with wanshi

[carmine roost]

Wanshi cub active skill also helps with stagger

[pulsar estuary]

I just rotate with wanshi as much as i could back then

[carmine roost]

You freeze the mobs before your ult animation ends

[pulsar estuary]

Hate using her

[simple dew]

solo wanshi for the win

[carmine roost]

Back then when some people genuinely think solo wanshi is better than swap with qu at some invest

Solely cuz they hate qu

[peak halo]

Han solo
How good yet?

[carmine roost]

[wanton hatch]

never used her 2s properly

[carmine roost]

Real

It was pain anyway

[wanton hatch]

3s the way to play

[pulsar estuary]

K whel

[wanton hatch]

not my acc so not whel

[pulsar estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=kyarusmh

[wanton hatch]

mine ss iirc or ss3?

[wanton hatch]

who knows

frozen Bica woah

[peak halo]

I dont know nergi why get sane after she touch 4s

[pulsar estuary]

Oh mine's ss3 yeah

Now she went homeless

[wanton hatch]

max/high inv gonna make u tweak if u wanna play properly all I can say

[peak halo]

True

[carmine roost]

Wantap 4s is heaven, you already outscore the majority

[wanton hatch]

outscoring isn't the issue

[carmine roost]

Mald 4s is where you're assigning to the mental asylum

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/1481660034420314172/Screen_Recording_20260312_071256_PGR_1_1-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[wanton hatch]

it's getting max score with that invest

[carmine roost]

Yes

Might as well put your name to mental asylum patient list if you want to start malding 4s seriously

[peak halo]

Huh

[wanton hatch]

3s already annoying to mald

[peak halo]

I wanna check magma sanity after mob dark mald

[carmine roost]

The last proper 3s team that I genuinely malded before was 3s dork with lamia and capri

[wanton hatch]

[carmine roost]

Nothing else after, too broke

[wanton hatch]

when 222 dork ref

[carmine roost]

222 what what

[wanton hatch]

[peak halo]

I need 111

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/982485707497046026.png

[simple dew]

putting it right next to l*tte

[wanton hatch]

Lotte weirder

[peak halo]

Lotte is just had 1 brainciells to focus on luna

If u operate out that "tumor"
He will be normal

[wanton hatch]

[wanton hatch]

who knows maybe he gonna be worse when that taken out

[peak halo]

Surly he wanna back that braincells

[simple dew]

god liv feels washed even in norman

[peak halo]

Lilith just sht

[spiral delta]

liv u mean

[spiral delta]

wth,wasnt your liv ss3

[peak halo]

I mean lilith as boss is annoy no matter the unit

[spiral delta]

agreed

[simple dew]

cant even skip the phase 1

with liv

[carmine roost]

Point still stands

[spiral delta]

skill issue

[simple dew]

i used kamui on lilick and she just went to phase 2 instantly

[spiral delta]

[simple dew]

50 bars obliterated

liv gen 3 dps they said

[peak halo]

When kuro balancing

[graceful summit]

Might wanna mention his kamui is sss

[simple dew]

shhhh

[peak halo]

Mine too

[buoyant hornet]

https://youtu.be/ymRQK4SvsTQ

[peak halo]

Also my alpha will just sss

[buoyant hornet]

Btw lilith still more reliable here than Ishmael lmao

[peak halo]

Kuro not deserve more money

[buoyant hornet]

Because ishmael heal whiff

[simple dew]

how the hell

do you fail at healing

[wanton hatch]

oh Ish

[simple dew]

when did kuso stop making the weird healing fields

[buoyant hornet]

Doesn't matter just run lilith and do the same thing

It's plain better

Also lilith seems to usually prefer 2cot over 4guin so she can ult consistently

[wanton hatch]

yeah ik I just wanted Yoshi to play dork

[deft apex]

Brah, that's what I was running before

👴

[buoyant hornet]

Same rot sequence too?

[deft apex]

I think so

Lmfao

Maybe I was switching luna with ish i dont remember now

[sharp solar]

Got rosseta. Whats next? Also what memory rosetta use?

[rose yew]

8 cottie

[spiral delta]

do u have sig

[spiral delta]

[sharp solar]

No

[rose yew]

6 lantern then

[spiral delta]

4 nimue 2 cottie

[spiral delta]

pak u

[rose yew]

[spiral delta]

cotties are 4 n 6 slots

[spiral delta]

when u get her sig,memo set will be 4 nimue 4 bathlon

so dont hypertune cottie if u get her sig soon

[rose yew]

Don’t forget to sss her cub
The unicorn one

[spiral delta]

🔨

[spiral delta]

yes

[stone iris]

To put it simply

No Luna no void team

[dusk grotto]

Her animations are pretty cool

[stone iris]

To know that she is 2.5 years old but due to nahil Being very rare she will survive for months to come

[dusk grotto]

I have her best team or at least what the in game guide told me I think

[stone iris]

Nirvatia and Ishmael?

[dusk grotto]

No

The in game guide told me feral and some guy

[stone iris]

No that's a cope team really

Luna can convert buffs to universal ones

Making any teammate buff her even if they are in a different element

Her best team is a free unit nirvatia and payed unit Ishmael

[dusk grotto]

Free?

I still have 2 s rank boxes

[spiral delta]

don't listen to in game guides and build recommendations

[dusk grotto]

I heard noctis isn't good anymore

Is this true

[spiral delta]

never was

[spiral delta]

yep

[dusk grotto]

NOOOOOOOOOOO

Doesn't stop me

I will pull to max him regardless

[spiral delta]

he's a male so we barely get males

around once a year

[dusk grotto]

And he is good looking too

[spiral delta]

ye

[dusk grotto]

Yws

Yes

I want Vera for his team

[spiral delta]

did u get kamui

[dusk grotto]

No why

Im broke

[rose yew]

Unbreak yourself then

[dusk grotto]

Or at least i have no pulls

Im a new player so I still figure things out