#📨・meta-help
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Time to grind them
Ok
whats the dark team?
And remember, attacker are all washed
Rosetta arete
Lilith
Any amplifier
y did u add attackers there
Thats not mine 

Real
Lao giveaway when 
Tf you mean giveaway
Are you like demon in disguise
Asking my first newborn in form of giveaway
Well I’m certainly not an angel I’ll say that
gibeaway ples lao
No shukra 
whokra?
all zones are crowded, bad wz week 😭
ain't rosetta in a limbo of breaker/attacker
Bro's speaking to the air molecules
Nihil and Dark are suffering so much this time
Nihil will still be fine
?????
Rosetta is Breaker
Dark/Ultima Slash Breaker
And she's built to be the Main-DPS for Ultima Slash team
Like how Kamui is built to be Main-DPS for Plasma Beam
isn't she not a ultima breaker solely bc she doesn't actually do dmg reduction on that aspect, unlike kamui that actually does in plasma
Well Kamui is built for Plasma Main-DPS with shred cuz Plasma Beam doesn't have a tank for itself
Rosetta doesn't have Ultima Slash shred cuz Hanying exists
there we go
She's Main-DPS for Ultima Slash
She does Slash damage
ik
The enabler for Slash is Hanying, a tank, so Rosetta doesn't need to have her own shred cuz it'll be useless
For ultima slash she is effectively an attacker
speaking of
Exactly
But
More like
Is this real chat
Actually no
She's the "Executioner"
But worse 
no qte nuke
True again
Truth nuke
Well she makes up for it with her DoT field I guess
Big DoT field
Hanying is good now atleast
That's what matters
Selena is brick now
Can we appreaciate how alpha is taking Veronica's ONLY good spot as the burn output


..........leak?
At this point almost everything about honse feels like mistakes from feature testing lmao
No

The only big thing she got is dmg
.............. leak?!

LEEEKKKK
I'm leaking for sure
🥬
They could have made her enabler with shred too but higher damage so that the team doesn't just kick her out when an ultima Slash attacker comes out
I'm gonna leek all over the places
Isn't that normal
It is
IMAGINE IF ALPHA DOESNT HAVE SELF-ENABLING LIKE DANTE

runs out of Ignition stacks mid rot
fcks up
kills her damage
Darkflow CW PTSD
Enabler or executioner don't mean jackshi since they make burn
Everyone is just doing whatever the fck they do regardless role
wish CW got her darkflow team sooner 
She wouldn't still be used
Vera has more damage

I mean
That's cuz her damage is high af for ignition
ok but what if your vera is 2s and cw 3s
I hope we get attacker/amp/breaker in one
@deft apex @carmine roost I JUST REALISED
couldn't they have just given Rosetta the slash res shred in her kit.....could have made Hanying's physical res shred stack on top of it
He does dmg by himself
He does shred by himself
He even does buff by himself
how many years Solon said to keep pgr alive? at least 10 years?
kamui's self-buff has its logo for an amp in plasma
That shi ain't joke
Kamui Aeternion
- shreds upto 45% fire and plasma res
- self buff 40% for fire and plasma
- deals crap on of damage
does rosetta even have ts shred
Tank
Amp
Attacker
and you know why?
2030
"You'll own nothing and you'll be happy"
watafak, I didnt read much into his kit yet, so busy with other stuff 
Probably cuz they wanted to give ti to Hanying?
wuwa transition 
Rosetta has self buff too
Same colour core passive = 30% (I think?) dark/slash buff to self
Doubles with sig I think as well
can Rosetta run solo?
Breaker truly breaking the balance
No
I'm seeing the pattern of self-buffing with breakers
wait wha rosetta has no shred?!
Except for Ishmael
All breakers have it (there's only 2 lol)
No Ultima Slash or Physical shred yeah

Cuz Hanying has it
no, cuz she's elemental
I'm a tourist at this point 
More like they wanted to kill vergin true and real
why kamui has it?
Seriously?
Couldn't they just have given shred switch to her?
Doesn't need physical def shred
Just Ultima res shred
Cuz there's no Plasma Beam res shred applicator?
doesnt ultima not have 1 too
Nanaknight's lightning shred stacks with Kamui's Plasma Beam shred
Hanying has it now
breakers are meant to break amirite
Her leap converts physical res shred to Ultima Slash res shred if there's atleast 1 Trueill
Hanying only had physical shred till leap bruh
Now her Physical res shred gets converted to Slash res shred when Slash points are there in the gauge

why did they do that
Probably to say "FCK your dreams of having Rosetta with Slash res shred"

or maybe it's just the obvious one that they wanted to replace vergil?
And probably also "so we realised that Rosetta for US is just Attacker but worse cuz no QTE damage......so we are gonna kill her soon™"
I wonder
Why do we think so much
rosetta leap soon
dark is not gonna receive updates till the next dark amp
The more I realise how messed up her kit is
they screwed up dark's balancing that affects future teams

omg setsulao
They just don't know what to do with new role so they just decided to throw random bullshi and make it work somehow and thus dark is used as sacrifices

And now they're picking the good scrap from it to make kamui
their first is always a mess look at wata pyroath
Kuro whenever they made a new class:
Kekpri and kekren
Buff locked sig mems
Teddy boutta get her first victim
wata non existent shred field pre leap
Wata was genuinely good
Pyroath though
The air strike crew is as pinpoint as blind guy

Idk if I should really pull for new Alpha considering that my voucher plan is to 3S teddy
Imagine
Energy independent ult
💀
Ult having its own gimmick
hell nah 💀
she's ignition too though
so you might end up needing her for that
Nice pfp
Amaterasu
I'm just excited to see how alpha performs in Burn
you commented on that 1 year ago on the 1st week that I joined here
I have no hope for her in ice
SSS0 Teddy and Wanshi gonna be very hard to get close to for SS0 Alpha
we haven't seen any wz runs yet
I don't trust kuro
people was scoring higher with ss3 nanami than 3s wata back then 
I'll still pull her, but she might get the bianca treatment in my acc
High chance fumble her in a very bad way
Oh yea pre leap
imagine rot lock till SS3
When I'm in bullshi and hypocrite competition but I'm faced with that one mod on pgro:

limpidity is lowk kinda bad and currently lightning is struggling, they need a new amp
Real
Dude I literally complimented his taste in women
We need an non-limited amplifier who can go toe to toe with Liv but have a better rotation sync with Nanaknight and Liv
My first attempt with 222 light literally got me 5m score with anything else is pretty much almost better than that

They'll have to compensate for literally locking the Main-DPS for lightning team behind limited banner
her white orb is quirky in a bad way, to me at least
the signature gauge doesn't come fully when you're too slow and it makes the rotation very awkward in the next signature attempt
222 fire 6m
222 ice 6m
222 honse was like 9m
222 nihil is actually getting 6m

One interruption during the hold BA and you are COOKED
Lightning got a degrade with Liv


Free lightning amp when
Much better than CW
But otherwise yeah

it's more annoying bc the hold BA and hold white orb is just the same and if you accidentally hold the white orb early you're ALSO COOKED it's so annoying
Another thing I hate about liv
Is how stiff her gameplay is
It's either long rot or short rot
Like girl
Do something else interesting
Her animations feel a bit too stiff
Besides being useless
I'm just hoping that the new alpha doesn't have the stiffness of liv or cw pre-leap
Bonca got that ult spam
At least Vero doesn't eat that much orb to try both long and short
And then we got Rosetta with too much bullshi happening

I'm gonna jinx it
Part of her rot is another long unskipable no timestop attack for dmg
-# i heard that she also uses Rosetta orb mechanic
The worst one yet

I don't fcking know
3 rot Kamui maybe
I play ss0 only anyway 
Got that 33335 2 slam ending + Sunfire buff
to avoid that, just use movement side to side and you might be alright

Do a serious sidestep to avoid stagger
chat how do i play ss0 fire
@spiral merlin seems 24545 fire double dps
me ss0 too
but mob wz truly annoying
goddamn
idk abt me tho with s+ vera
i did 23332 only got 13m in hero bruv
when 4 u build hba before swap, when doing 3 blue after 5th ult
oh huh
full gauge hold yellow swap out?
i do like shameless ion build up, but u have plenty of time tho
tap yelow red hba swap out
that's after 4 ult
after 5 ult just 3 blue and swap out
can you swap out during hba
yes
oh okay cool
but this week kinda unplayable
every wave stagger♿
sometime can't 3 ult vera in 12s bruh
i gave ion in light a try one time before i realised how ass mob would be
its cooked
thanks
2.3 vera rite?
yes
#punishinggrayraven #thedyingsun #Aeternion #legendwarzone #firewarzone #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #vera #wata #lucia?
Time to copy nook

But instead of 20m
It's 13m
i saw some breakpoints for 14+ but holy
i need miracle to happen to achieve that
all the stars alligned
Real
Have you tried critting
-# howtf did you even manage to see that amongst all of the mobs
Th se fkwrs be Dodging everything left rights
lilith missing ein
Scoring also super shi
vera 3 ult kamui infinite ult team
is that fred vera
Fk me broke can't build fred
Wut inv that
certainly not better for mob
that's all
Maybe ur vera can get a bit more kick
4 Guin 4 cott
4 sig 4dv unc
you know i had quite a lot of guin issues with my plasma opener
felt like float dmg

idk if it was timing issue or missing issue but smth was inconsistent af with guin
-# is 4 Guin 2 shama 2 cott even an option
2s bianca can play wz?
she has no right

Need to belive
Check
pak whel
Even Better if it's not sea

Wave 58 sea -2mil smthing
If rembeer correctly
sea only
225m
me racist
bruh
want or not
nvm

Not using bonca should give near similar as well
Just more copium if using her
2s that bad
is 2s rosetthonks solo better?
lilick + uma dps
got rosetta cub
3s tank ig
Did I heard 222?

Eep
2.0 lilick not exist
Real

Non 3s tank works fine too
It's honse carries anyway even with Bianca
does 2s3 bonca do 5 ultimetto spekutakuru?
with wut team? kamui?
ss3 horsey can do 11, sss nirv dps can do 12
ss kamui can probably do 10s with this rot and team:
https://youtu.be/KV39piYFClc
wait for matrix on hold dodge, and let it hit before using ult
prolly need to change qte timing to, cuz chaos choco got more hp than hell schultz
Team investment:
[SS] Aeternion + 6* Weapon [Matrix + 30% ATK]
4x Shake + 2x Cottie + 2x Darwin [6 ATK + 6 ult]
Ignis [+10% Fire Dmg / Kamui skill]
[SS3] Geiravor + 6* Weapon [+8% ATK + 10% ATK]
4x Guinevere + 4x Samantha [2 ATK + 2 class]
Wrathfang [100 ATK / +10% Fire Dmg / Vera skill]
[SSS] Epitaph + 6* Weapon [Shred + 15% ATK]
4x DaVinci ...
with s+ pyroath
no
i cant kill with kamubro
When alpha
wut team? you hab s+ pyroach but not ss3 kimochi at least? 
no i lied
ss0 kamubruh
3s wata
ss3 vera
1 reso kamubro
rip, this needs at least r2 kimichi or ss cub 
could try 11 horse, but we hab spooder now, so dunno if it's worth for you or nut
For what
can honse 10s?
ss3 can't, only sss
how
here's da whel, ask him, he knows sss runs
Z+ only
use ultima or wut
of course you need ult for kill there
oh
20m+ hp brah
https://youtu.be/L-0AWdenZXA
this is a 10s rot for ss3
dunno if there's a better one for sss, or if it even kills like this
Team investment:
[SSS] Scire + 6* Weapon [Dark Shred + Shield]
4x Da Vinci + 4x Bathlon [6 ATK + 6 Class]
Moonhopper [+100 ATK / +10% Dark dmg / Scire sk.]
[SSS] Lilith + 6* Weapon [8% atk +10% atk +15% atk ]
4x Guine + 2x Gloria + 2x Einsteina [4 ATK + 4 class]
Billie [+100 ATK / +10% Dark dmg / Lilith skill]
[SS3] Arete + 6* Weapon [30% ATK...
4 chen 4 dv
Not played but sea got extra debuff
233 16 smthing cn did
:WorryThinkAsian:
Tap
Can do like +1.5m
Weird waves no mob dies and fail speed hacks 4 ult end
Off to do dark
What's scoring looking like for 333/433
Shibal
24 seems avrg
Lemme try
I have Vera Lucia and epitaph all ss3 is the new fire character a must pull or can I skip him
Must pull
No kamui =kiwi fire
Who does he bench
Lucia 
Wata if fkw hel
.
no cap
.

Oh I see so now Vera plays hypercarey instead of having Lucia as a secondary dps and wasting time with her weak damage
No kamu goes hyoercarry
Vera doesn't hypercarry... that's Kamui
what are best teams for this ppc?
Oh kamui is the hypercarry nice
But my fire team can already get 610k ppc and like 34 waves in warzone it's strong enough without kamui
Explore the 54 characters of Anik from the Asia-Pacific server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
i get more pts using plasma kamui but then i dont have lilith for melinoe
Ill just skip him there is no way I can compete in the leaderboard even if I get him clearing all the content is enough by me I dont enjoy his gameplay as well
but i dont get much pts in melinoe in general tbh
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Not ppc malder if better suggestion want then wait
Ap distribution can refer change ones if better options got
is all SSS tho?
It's not strong enough without Kamui
Yeah teddy only sss
Lets go alpha


strong is subjective
610k is barely anything considering shorthalt amd gwyn are old bosses
and even then vera doesnt overkill gwyn
new fire boss and that 610k be turning into 580k
skip = #💬・pgr-general
Is Alish Echo and Alya Klaedo from Dorm shop worth building?
Ayla is dead
only alisa for physical, even then it requires hanying
630k+ 
alisa is mid but no other option for ohys
but s+ wata is f2p 
s+ rigor is f2p
embrace it
Why
1101w
afk gaming
Pak wave control and bad mob
whel
higher than probably all of my zones combined

Me slack last week
No 40m plasma cause i don't like that team
Also clairemy(s
+) and matt in bracket🥀
In Hero bracket?
Should have called me

The pilot of the century
@normal sierra 
You have wael acc deets?
no
Will just force him


I'm pretty sure i went -5 waves cause of some bs rng
I will call nude's parents and tell them that their son is spending an unhealthy amount playing violent games 
100m score when
Fund s+ acc pak shit
Wael is dead next patch
Not even sure we'll get ss0 Alpha
Kek
Ching chong does 29 with 333
Need hax
32 444 that week
Too much damage hacks needed

Wael kiwi?
Yeah no spending since Bica patch iirc
Sss kamui was pure luck

Actually i think he spent on rosetta patch
Ghost still possible to sss Alpha?
dunno I didn't see anything else except some wz runs
I mean xeno acc
:WorryThinkAsian:
Yeah don't know
Individual acc info remembering difficult for me

@keen meteor
Let's ask him
What
Acc ded next patch xeno?
3s Alpha doable for xeno next patch or are we getting 244 5*33
4s teddy/4s wanshi
So lao
422
Yes
MAYBR if someone grinds that accpunt but no one is doing that afaik so prolly not
@noble zinc grindge
It's a maybe even if he grinds
Me slack too much alry these days 
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since hanying is now good with leap, should i spend all my vouchers her 2.3 sigless rn
Running wata with these resos, will matrix lightning be better than RE?
Using him in fire wz atm
Or on super tanky enmy
I see, ty!
Ys
41 waves is strong enough I dont need kamui
Guys, in today's day and age and meta, is there a team for alpha Lucia? Like not just nanami or the girl with the cannon?
I need her to have more power and motivation
@spiral delta
Wut
Shes outdated
Pls dont
Nope
New alpha get her next patch
kamui so broken
Yea just go for the new alpha next month

Liv direct replacement for her
I'm 2 pulls away to have the fire luci
which banner exactly are you almost at fire lucia for?
I'm a Lucia collector, I just returned to the game so I still have no idea of the meta
oh lord
The blue cards
After 475 days
okay so if you want to go for meta... you should get Rosetta Arete
otherwise ig if you just want to collect, I won't stop you
outdated 
Oh come on, not you too 
can we just feed her weapon to someone?
just know that Lucia Pyroath isn't particularly useful anymore in the fire team
For now no

im honest with u
And Lucia Crimson Weave is completely outclassed
Better wait few more patches

What if this taking
Jesus, so I'm using outdated characters?
We be getting busted leap nowadays
if you just want a Lucia, save up a bit to get the new Lucia next patch who will be super strong 
Even though they are the overpowered ones in my team
That's my plan
Also yeah 470 days offline means a lot of outdated stuff
i mean new alpha frame gonna be motivated too so save mats for her if ur alpha fan
I just headed she's out in June 2
pgr naturally replaces a character every patch
Ok so you're telling me, after I got crimson weave and then I left and another update is out and suddenly, crimson weave is ass?
Wasn't the banner supposed to be 6 stars?
But she's 7.2k

Full reso and stuff
With the release of Nanami Starrail and Liv: Limpidity, CW's damage simply isn't high enough to warrant using her
If you want as high of a score as possible, of course
you can still use her if you're fine with a lower score 
But the question is is crimson weave is sSs+ will she be a "good" character?
nope
Or any sSs+ character are good right?
no
Jesus
SS0 liv limpidity will beat her easily enough
I just fully maxed her, even the other skills
okay so
So I just wasted my resources?
In terms of meta... yes
should i sacrifice cw's sig for lilith's dlt
You could yes
my dark team is ss0 vera,ss0 honse and ss3 lilick
But I gotta be honest man, CW design is fine as hell, I remember back then I was so hyped for her
indeed
Also, star platinum
So thoughts on the new alpha
ys
I wonder if the new alpha will be better at off element lightning than CW 🤔 

Brick
damn
brick
Fk whel
That's not mine Whtver others are mine too

10,700 BC for a character ain't that bad
Your mine too
🧱
I mean 15k
So If I have 30k BC I can get a character and it's signature every patch since pgr gives a lot of BC
..
Who, me?
yes
Wait in what context?
Wpn banner every 30pull 6 start guaranteed
Is it the 80% of the weapon draw?
at least that + it would be true if u don't need pull s rank every patch
almost every

But knowing myself, I would be just getting lucia
Also, is the nihil Luna still meta?
She deals a lot of damage lmao
still meta
Awesome
She's still a good DPS right?
Since there are only 3 nihil characters I saw
and u need them all, correct
I'm getting them after getting lucia
So if I roll 30, the next one will be a 6★
30is the guaranteed rate up
You can get early as well
Every 2nd 6 star in gurnateed rate up
If not getting on first
Then it resets
why thubrciki rerun
io need this
why back to hero attami

He quit
nityanka and munacho in was my bracket
yes cuz i cant dich this game with 0 mats for alpha

mostly wanna say i quited malding
onetap for bc and good
Like the rest of us

🐳
I'm on tab now

What type of questions will people ask once they unlock SSS+ alpha
How to build her
Free Rosetta yellow
No troll pls
"why does my SSS+ alpha do lower damage than SSS0 teddy"
I can see that coming 🥀
i wonder if the ice breaker will also be weaker than teddy
nah
at what ranks is bianca better than rosetta @simple dew
fake news
SSS new alpha gotta be the strongest DPS
isnt this the guy that couldnt break sheer heart attack
Breaker now is in the top of food chain
what the hell kind of slander is this
ss3 midianca matches sss lilicn
wrong guy
ss trash
is bianca always better than rosetta at both SSS0 and further
bianca easy
sss midianca has the 2-3rd highest raw dmg
not sure about SS0 or SS3 (though probably still bonca)
idk if nvidia beats her
actually who even has higher
Kamui?
kamui
fair enough
kamui gaps everyone by like an entire gen
kamui gonna be the wata of gen 5
he gonna powercreep all the gen 5 annihlators
Finally got her, now I'ma save up to get the new Lucia, what's her recommended team? Outdated or not, I'm going to use her
there is no new lucia
Lucia, Kamui, Vera
kamui vera her
oh wait you mean the new alpha
Oh lmao, alpha I mean
the new alpha is going to be in a team with Wanshi and Teddy
Lucia and alpha are different
Teddy is from Service shop, Wanshi is from dorm
nah
The S ranks one?
thats for pyro
I know I know, but s ranks ones right?
duh
@dusky zealot the new alpha will be in 2 teams, ice and ignition
for ice she will be with spectre and lucid dreamer
for ignition she will be with startrail and aegis
make sure to pull ss3 
Noted
Lucia: Pyroath, Kamui: Aeternion, Vera: Geiravor for fire team
Lucia: *******, Wanshi: Lucid Dreamer, Teddy: Spectre for Ice team.
Lucia ******, Veronica: Aegis and Nanami: Startrail for Ignition team
do we know her new name yet
I'm going to save up a lot
inverse crown
crimson shadow from 6 months ago was way better
Eq inv bica and rosetta bica is always stronger
Rosetta gets upto her level if the inv is sss vs sss3/6/+
what about liv and nanami
Liv stronger
at all ranks?
Ss0 Liv is ass
Ss0 nana is probably =ss0 Liv
Kek
Ss3 Liv>SS3 Nana
Sss Liv>SSS Nana
Etc
so liv and bianca are better than the tank/breaker
is selena better than leaped hanying @zenith kernel
Around equal at high invest
Ss0 probably slightly weaker than ss3 Han
And ss3 selena=/>Ss3 han
so still somewhat better than the tank
That's at high invest
Below sss Bianca isn't strong at all
Ss0 Rosetta>ss3 Bianca
both lucias are weaker than the amplifier in the team
and both lucias will be also weaker than the breaker in the team
crazy
What even is the point of being an attacker if u get outdamaged by breaker and amplifiers 😭
aura farming
they usually make the hype characters attaccker
So that they could generate revenue? And then replace them with new attackers....
Yes

Back in ancient times (literally last year) attackers used to AT LEAST majorly outdps the units in their team that they arrive after
i.e pyro vs. wata, empy
Selena vs. echo, hanying
Then we got ss0 bianca and she couldn't even outdps SSS lilith
The free character
♿
trash vs garbage vs rubbish
all trash
she will get leap and be like oblivion
I guess they did this to make amplifiers and breakers more viable I'm combat so that, we aren't stuck with attckers dealing damage
grandma
She’s like a roach
After many attempts to kill it she still lives

Fr unkillable
Leap wanshi fr
washed holding alpha for me
No they're doing it because they don't play their own game and don't give a damn lol
Players warned them many times during bianca's beta that if she's not really strong at all ranks she'd be embarrassing
They didn't give a damn since wuwa dropped
Then they released her and we saw how like, 70% of the playerbase had no meta reason to use bianca anymore
Older sibling was just an experiment
6 months after release
We thought they'd learn SOMETHING and overhaul attacker class with alpha
Let's just say I have a very strong IMAGINARY gut feeling that Alpha is simply just Liv 2.0
Why do they not play their own game 😭😭😭
VEEEERY STRONG gut feeling 
Because they dumdum
give them rest
Their promotion is going to wuwa
Not like they promoted pgr before wuwa anyway
if alpha's patch makes again only a million it's eos this year
Wdym they advertised our favorite garbage dark attacker in times square

So they wouldn't even take some work to make more money? 😭
Nvm I'll sleep now
💔
ik that
im being sarcastic
Needs fcking god intervention to spin back
no one wants mid there
<@&595893856554319873>
fkn hell mr breast
yes apparently
Yes
it's crazy world you know
A LOT of people do
If we do eos, then I can fully focus on NTE

Not so bad
Get kids off of discord bro
discord should be 18+ anyways
Impossible
It's like saying get kids away from smoking
Or corn
same bro
Fishing was the end game for nte
25% dmg buff to something
His ult I think
Dk I don’t read
Good investment tho
twin

Just check the description
every sig cub is good if it has pull
500k something increase in score with it in hero
not sure abt legend
waduhel
wdym
yeah its meh






