#📨・meta-help
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I just used her weapon for Kamui reso
Wow
he just said he uses ishmael
But he said he don't want it
because you cant switch to ishmael
Then that's his problem
?
Praying the lightning amp does as much dmg as Liv tbh
ishmael does nihil damage in lightning team
...
how can this be his problem
Idk
Feral does as much dmg as Ish so theres not much of a difference
Plus I have more resos on Ish so
what the fc do you mean idk you said its his problem to an objective problem
Mikasa said feral is not good
whats the point of having an attacker class if the latest different class chars will outdps the attacker anyways
arent they qte bot in lighting
IDK
well this only happened 1 time
the rest is just
Yeah ik
attackers potentials are locked behind SSS rank
one time?
attackers deal no damage before SSS but after SSS they are the main dps
This is why I don't invest to much on attacker but tank
They should replace attacker release slots with breakers atp
@white canyon
for example
low rank bianca is not even meta in dark
but high rank bianca is capable of making rosetta and lilith obsolete
Wonder why I skip most attacker
this guy just ignores me
pieroo's img
it happened multiple times
highrank roach still get outdps
Who
LIKE THATS MORE THAN DOUBLE LIGHTNING SCORE
thats because pyroath is the first gen 3 attacker and kuro messed her up, affixes were new so they made her fire bad to promote her plasma
shes outdps in plasma too
SS0 tank can outdps SSS attacker
Im hitting maybe 14m max on Lighting 333 (ik im ass at the game) but then I just hit 31.5m on Ion 333 (again Im still ass)
as i said, she is the first gen 3 attacker
jsut like the first gen 3 tanks, she needs a leap to keep up to actual gen 3 characters

this never happened
I did my Watanabe epitaph actually outdps pyroath at SSS

@simple dew SS epitaph apparently outdamages SSS pyro
i agre

Why didn't you just agree already

not like pyros offield tick at ss0 already deal more than an entire sss+ wata rot
you are spitting nonsense my brother
Wata has seen better days
My nonsense keeps the chat alive bradar
I'm not your son nor physical
Ill miss using him but his numbers just arent there anymore
i doubt if ss epitaph no leap can outdps sss+ palefire with leap
My R3 pyro 
nah not that low
which one
kamui nana lilith
ss0 no leap vs SSS+ leaped
ss gen 2.5 vs leaped a rank from release
you said it like that sht didnt act like a gen 2 S rank with leap
She is one of the poster children for this game
hyperreal already outdpsed palefire and wata outdps hyperreal
unlikely
her kit clunky af
"hyperreal outdps palefire" gang we kNOW
Why do u always speak sht
Wata deal mores dmg than pyro ?
Wth
son then whats the point of the comparison
Tbf she is close to 2 years old in CN
because ss0 wata > SSS pyro lmfao
Thats around the time most characters get replaced
agree
Stfu bro you don't know why I speak like that
doesnt hold ult of sss pyro deal more than ss0 wata full rotation
Wanshi is probably getting replaced by the end of the year 💔

her offield ticks deal more than him at sss
😭
how much does her offield doppelganger attacks do
Unless Alpha is ass then he'll get to hang around a little longer
i will tell you this
teddy 7k
alpha 5k
Theres a chance
PLEASE BE ASS ALPHA
i just told you a limited unit is 2k lower than a free unit
4k%
why does my sss alpha deal less than ss wanshi
They could change it for release
oh my god
Im just cautiously optimistic
@simple dew dm
cant rn


Wait alpha is weak? 😭💔
funnily weak
Why the hell 😭😭😭
it's the first beta
promote breaker
things will change
they willingly made her suck
She should have been breaker bruh 💔 they cursed her to be attacker
there is no ice breaker
she should have been an upgrade to attacker class
no sht sherlock
So thats true
Yup but I guess kuro too lazy
cant be a breaker promotion if there is none
you are so smart
Our queen 💔💔💔💔💔💔
dm
What elements for this WZ reset
imo they want to make alpha fans whale for sss alpha or smth,cuz u get only ss0 as f2p unless u saved before
Probably Dark, Ice for fixed zones
No clue what mixed could be
Burn and Glacio is my guess
you do get a free copy of alpha right
surely
ss teddy > sss alpha
she couldnt be
no
maybe they'll buff her while testing
like v1,v2
Free Ishmael take it or leave it
wait so two regular S ranks back to back? have they FULLY lost the plot?
wym 2 regular
It is half anni
3 regular
no
It will be when Alpha is out
probably not, this amount of difference only hints out at them wanting to make alpha weak
half anni is the patch after alpha
We are having 7 back to back S ranks

Half anni is July
can you stop talking atp 🥀
😭
We're getting 8 S ranks back to back
7
Half anni has to be another one then
why we acting like this hasnt happened multiple times already
How is that even related bro 😭
tbf 2 of these were free
Probably 12
and 2 were garbage
soon to be 3
which
vero and liv
- Vero
- Liv
- Teddy (free)
- Rosetta
- Nirvatia (free)
- Kamui
- Alpha
it happened with the collabs because they dont cound collabs
the only other one i can remember was preceeded by two back to back free units
trash mid free good free goat mid
kamuis kit is hot garbage but everything else is really great
Kamui having the highest dmg in the game is frying me
oh right vero exists
collabs were optional and never made to last
A MALE HAVING THIS STATUS? Say it aint so
Not just u
yeah i dont mind that one
delete from the game
shouldve improved
okay
peak
why
good
meh
bark that back
Kamui is "good"?
i like kamui
Die
not his gameplay but he is good
She is good idk why ppl hate her...
good ti-
we could get vonnegut
we could get roland
halfanniv
we could get alpha
Is that why they hate her? 😭
tho currently nugget has no reason to be released
community favorite is a reason
- Good for ignition, otherwise who?
- Mid.... SS3 is salvageable
- PEAK and free
- PEAK
- Good and free
- PEAK BEYOND EXPECTATIONS
- Mid..... I'm guessing SS3 or unplayable?
doesn't even proc guin properly, gets staggered a lot, shyt dmg distribution, clunky as hell, slow
his current status is dead/missing
Welp.... I guess Roland and vonnegut will be of different class?
ezra it looks like its sss or unplayable
Male so can't expect
sss+ or unplayable when

😭😭😭
they did alpha soooo fcing dirty
kamui is unplayable before ss
Ah yes true reason 😭
mf everyone is
Useless
Mid
Good
GOAT
I like her since she makes Void easier
How is he allowed
Mid
ca is playable before ss
what was the last time a character was S playable
Everyone calling alpha mid here 😭💔
rosetta cant even do an ult properly
it tru
vera geiravor
low mid
Shes an attacker shes doomed to be mid
Male once a year
And kamui already this year so
im a huge alpha fan and they did alpha sooooo dirty
barely
Bro's on something
😭
U too?! 😭
i js want to skip her for black cards 
Aw man.... Why did they had to do this
alpha will be even burst at SSS+
what is Nirv 3S best build ? (Luna SS3 and Ish SS0)
2027 for Roland ig
throw out ish for sss wata
characters get changed in beta all the time, no need to be too worried yet
your invest, can't tell
have 3s Wata?
Same here...
or sss kamui
In my side is
Usually sht
Not bad
She in a sht team
Sht
Sht
Good but too much in power
She will in terrible situation
Ohhh 😭
3s Kamui if you want lmao but not wata
kamui prob shakes dv?
then put kamui
I do hope she gets better....
has anyone even tested 3s kamui nihil properly 
4 dv 4 shake kamui
4 sig 4 cottie nvidia
Farel put up a ref
cot guin better
just don't get staggered
much better than with wata

tho my luna ss0
K whel
@simple dew which deals higher damage blue only kamui ult or red only kamui ult
thx
what
what
theyre the same ult
Pink ult
green ult
no
Not properly not tried nirv amp
17.5m skill issue score
Luna ish kamui
its just different animation
leg?
no ill call the cops
so its same damage
Ill snap their neck too
Yep
18-20m in a good hand possible
oh hell nah u same score as hero luna roset nirv 1tap I did before acc got nuked 
ill summon ezra and you 2 will have a duel
20 then
for plasma team, mem placement for lilith doesnt matter much right
damage is too low?
i need to change my set and i dont want to train a third guin
lilith plasma dps is better than lux lightning dps
can we talk about how trash lux dps is
what
the
Helly
I bad with nihil so i not suprise

by 4 sig you mean her set of memory right ? Bulgakov ?
Aight so after evaluating my life choices because i pulled bianca wedding version, i have started a new account and i have lillith and Selena on it so far and i'm planning on getting veronica Aegis and Vera Geiravor next, is that a good plan?
Just block me my guy
back to back wrong choices ok
no it's not a good plan
trash vs garbage
Rosetta Arete was there, and Kamui Aeter also
pick entropy and ember 
nah pick Lumi 
ezra would swear on his life entropy > crimson abyss
Sht plan
Sele and vero sht also
Vera okay

vero goat choice
die
pick rose from base, roll kekmui from current banner - voila you have 2 teams 

wasnt that a "if you have skill issue and the targets are groups you could get more mileage out of lee than alpha"?
i dont remember because i didnt get either of them
i mismanaged my BC use at the start so i missed out on alpha by one pull
kind of
||entropy had dmg issues and grouping issues were fixed with karen blast back in the day. CA had problems of lower AoE but with blast it was negated||
the first character you have to skip for meta reasons

Ignition gonna die without alpha tbf
wait
alpha is ignition?
ignition trash
living under a rock
yes
i forgot to ask and am indeed not paying attention
Ice Ignition Attacker
what an element combo
i wonder if they are starting to do what they did with dante and vergil
those nanami fans are not going to use alpha
make units that are intended to be exclusive for affix
Ice is Yuki
Fire is Hi
Hiyuki
Not again........
Nanaknight is definitely the subdps
where's the dmc on sight=ban rule again

now that i look at it
i want it here 
only the first 2 gen 3 characters have the same affix as their element
Alpha would kill ignition
the first 3
2
Another boring ass element with high scores
Does the meta consist of only like 4 or 5 good characters that if you don't pull then the plan is considered bad? Because from the like 7-8 Characters i have looked at that interested me and looked really cool and powerful only one of them has gotten an "okay" from someone
imo, counting voidbar break as "affix" for void units is kind of a stretch but aight
unless you dont want to count luna because disruption field is in the same row as ray instead of the affix row
Nothing Nihil related is needed for the working for Disruption but they are linked
Slash can use Physical buff and shred
Glacio can use ice buff and shred
depends on team comp and what invest each of them are 
brother
Disruption is Nihil's Special Derivative Effect but disruption using nothing from Nihil to work
It works on its own way
But they are linked

would rather play ros slash 
as shown by A-teddy also being disruption by technicality i guess?
A rank Teddy had to have that 10% Nihil for her Disruption to work
So basically
You don't need to deal Nihil damage or shred/buff nihil for Disruption to work
physical -> ultima slash, first gen 3 physical
ice -> glaciation, first gen 3 ice
nihil -> disruption, first gen 3 nihil

You just need the disruption to be backed by Nihil
Not talking about that here
We talking about nihil and disruption
because your brain is washed by meta-only conversations
And?
You are in #📨・meta-help

i said they have the same affix as their element erza
Yea they do
ye
is that 10% simply because she deals that bonus disruption field damage btw
because i dont see any actual damage that is counted as void damage
But the topic is Nihil and Disruption's connection
Yeah
Lol
She has 10% Nihil to make disruption work on her QTE

Teddy yeah
marginally
Everyone's QTE deals damage
I'm trying to get Aegis, Solacetune and Selena as a Physical team and Geiravor, Aeternion and spectre as a fire team to start out the game with
i thought its heal only
support class
Them dealt too
They have damage too
u can ignore physical tbh, get Kamui first
Only some of them didn't had damage
Its hit too
Old gen 1
even eclipse deals dmg on qte
holy details
and this 2 being the only support i cared aboıt

My lumi is cant heal

what does luminance leap do
poop
So get the current limited banner, then get aegis, and then spectre


sp and crit buff or something
i lied nines too yeah forgot
spectre's free, get her anytime you want
And damage in ult so you can ping them orbs while ult
star platinum
and no, you don't need aegis unless you're planning to build Phys team in 1 go
ngl lumi leap is ASS
Ignition too
Ignition will need vero
That DoT is massive
they new
dead affix

not like they're gonna be in hero+ wz or doing ib ppc
Doesn't matter
Everyone should have everyone at proper invest from day 1 of start

okay
Happy eggs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCfhrjpreHo
this is still the build for plasma right
#punishinggrayraven #thedyingsun #Aeternion #legendwarzone #plasmawarzone #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #nana #lilith #lucia?
K whel
and you aren't gonna have fun in ib unless u have ss3-3s
S+ is good invest
or is ray still better than plasma

yeah i doubted that
How much points can I get with SS ross, SS lilith and SS3 Nvidia on dark team?
444 ion scores 51 mil bro
Ray is not touching that
we never had ray wz 
For now
Focus on
-
getting Rosetta Arete from S rank basic banner 40 pity
-
Kamui Aeternion from debut
-
save the rest for Lucia Inverse Crown
-
build Ice team in the meantime with Teddy Spectre and Wanshi Lucid Dreamer. Both of them are free
-
get Lilith Daemonissa, takes time but you can get her free
-
Nirvatia Dirge as well
-
Alisa Echo if you wanna build Physical. Just forget about Veronica Aegis for now
why use ray
On wz
physical is trash
8?
Save for alpha, yori are you okay? Did someone hack you
This is meta help
Yori kek
Me not mess around
attacker that will die in 6 months
AYO OBERON
newbies shouldnt pull attackers
is it confirmed alpha will outdps SS or SSS teddy by now?
waste of everything
Since alpha’s an attacker, is she really recommended to get?
No
Prediction is that she'll be dead on arrival

I would say she’s more of a trophy character
attacker = must skip
Nice, so I must get
Ezra now doing double job as mod and helper
Trash = more ppl skip = more rare
Liv and Bianca has proven to me that attackers r sht
And since she’s phylotree
Die
Prediction is
- dead on arrival or atleast half dead
- burn cracked at higher invest
- ice cracked at higher invest
- limited Phylotree Attacker
U die
Damn, got no resos
Time to pull out the stash
what's that lv on dante
God damn
WHAT IN THE WORLD
534 dv
the fk
8m?
yes
oke
is the best Kamui rotation in 3S the same as 2S or 2S3 ?
Having more than 300 DV 🤝
With pyro ofc
Imagine not having dv built
Don’t care
Ur sht invalid
better at sucking?
yes
Kamui sig where
Fat
Phat ass

Show for proof
explain why and don't tell me "because in endgame" as long as im not in endgame yet and will probably get the meta characters by the point i get to endgame

You ate kamui’s sword whole? 
Lowest scoring team
2nd lowest score with cheap invest, and critical issue
the team just trash
What’s lowest
Idk if it also applies to high inv
glacio
Ah
Lightning also exist
Also cuz crit float 
ss lightning that bad?
Ye
Yea,
Phys glace and light fighting for the most sht team ever
Notice how all 3 has attackers

222 phys what score?
That means skip alpha
6-7
7 max

I scored 7 last week
Crit bald
Float bald
Input bald
Def bald
Res bald
Any kind of bald
And need every tm8
Now hany can be dps
Bald
input veri good
solo hanying
🤤

🤤 🤤
Imma solo her on the bed
U only like her for her booba smh
Sss sela input bald is🚮 ♿
Who doesnt
Just do vero dps
mb
Green is a confie color
Her booba too big for my taste
Why did i pull sele, even at this time
I didn't use her smh
vero 🤤
Fat
same for ss3 sele

I forgot who I used my blue on
Nah slim
i used my blues on cw, pyro and sele
Or what joe used on

Joe Prolly Selena or wanshi
Cuz phys is trash
Also glacio
Now r3
Pak u
Whel
Time to unga bunga
Mf are you playing fire
Yo bro
Too lazy for ion
Why double amp smh
Smh
Wata r0

Paking whel
Wata is akshually 15.6m

plox do my ppc broski
SS3 pyro with 2.322 123 is 15.5m tho 
Bruh

Imagine having ss3 pyro
Ima try double amp then honse

6x class reso on breaker + consistent DD applic
Ah sht

I’m missing a blue orb
R2 Kamui go
Put your bet, how much worse it is compared to sss unc with 45% fire shred instead of 25%

Guessing honse it is

On who
Pyro
UR funny asf
222 it is
Who need ion
Build where
Heisen cot dar
Herschel dv
Guin cot sam

guin sam ein go
That's ur memo, build it smh
6 guin 2 eins

Bah 8guin
No eins?
4ein 4glori
Can swap sam for eins
cottie no need
Oh yeh
Guin sam eins then

Pak u
Where nude invest
In ur ass
is that ss0 lilick
2.3
U

Let’s see how to unga bunga this
What is this vertical invest
pwo invest
Hi! How much score did you get with that investment?
He hasnt even tried it yet
son
Where 42.13
where 433?
Next patch
Also cw time is 433
how is new alpha looking 😭
cuz to me, sucks
I heard not good
ss3 or bust from what I heard?
the gameplay is mid at best
Like everyone else, expext breakers
I can't believe we'll have to play a team with no qte field shred and go back to managing tank qtes
Its my last patch so no matter to me
I mean ic patch
crimson crown >
But which i seen untrusty info her multi numbers its not good
her rankups at sss above though....
Yep
Only thats good
dalao quitting 
<@&595893856554319873>
Only thats keep me in here
we may even have 2 helpers kiwi thanks to alpha
osoi

Kai cenat
My sponsore😭

Hi fork
Wth is this
Wutdahel

22.3.2.3 111 isnt it?
I intend to kiwi
If no alpha in last in the teaser

washed
Maybe
i came back and decided to be casual, thats the way forward ig, no sss = cooked for life since past few years

Damn fossil
almost 5 years in the server soon 
K gramps
U sadly just kill the wave
Only good thing I seen is her moveset
That alone is the motivation to pull
But that means just S0 is enough then

Wtf
Fossils with default username 
S0 surly had the moveset playable
my ign is diff, i just never forgot my default name xD

well, it did stay as default for over a year ig
difficult to forget
Very playable ofc
Since moveset is the only good thing, meta can go to hell for new Alpha
Wtf is a flip
Insta changed name when its possible
Back flip
After 2x 3blue Lilith does a backflip
You can cancel it or wait for bonus ult energy
Replaceable

New gaming sensory
Ok, so I still can improve
yep, dead
Good to know
SS3 
~~ make it 123456789 ~~
surely she can solo right?
On Lilith
gotta skip ice breaker yk
Not kamui
She eats orbs like crazy

I can say, 2 ult per swap
Dlt bruh
Dont be poor 
its over
…
123m
I just r2 my vera
Joe will make it

R3 or bust smh
Where’s ur r3
Or be me with R0 Hanying 
Zamn
My Bonca is R3 
|| 5* R3 ||
also no qte shred
so most of the time you'll want to swap so tank class app is consistent
Ain't that bricked
Bricked
So its pre-leap wata fire rot
s0?????
oh mb not sig
Drone ult and swap out?
the moveset aint even good bruv

the moveset is just cw
Kill kuro
||it would be alright if it was, but sadly its worse||
well, looks like ice wont actually suffer from wanshi

Just ask him

I will broke into your house if you skip sht


Solo nanami can go 6m cant she?
Tf of a wizardry are you playing
Now that's a funni invest 
Leader: Nanami YAAAA
I am not the biggest fan of this team : D Nanami's basics are more annoying then Wanshi's random disfunctions xd
Got the score I wanted though and within a few minutes, so I can sleep this zone from now on - though if there is another with good score I may try a bit again xd
Thanks again for watching, peace guys C:
My F2P ...
Lmao
Just remember fate sent it
Ain'tnoway
my nana is sss
Pak whels
alfa global passive
i pulled her from standard banner
and twice from a selector ticket
or once from selector ticket and once from the guarantee standard banner
Should be able to get decent score then
Just use Liv
Ig Plasma Kamui is worth to try
Just solo Nana bruh wadapak 
O wait, try plasma Kamui dps + Nananami
Is kamui fire same sht as ion rot
no
Aw man
Similar score
Only if u play very efficiently to the minute detail (like nuke) that SS0 Liv + SSS Nana swap is 500k higher than SSS Nana solo
ion 4 ult fire 3 ult
4 ult is just bcs we maximize plasma orb duration right?
Waduhel wadapak
At least thats not Plasmaoath ult notation
4 ult cuz everyone else does sht dmg


SSS Nana dmg still shiet I cant beliebe it
She fell off 

Seems like nanami just there for show
my sss nana waste
5 ult
4shakes 2cottie 2darwin harmo
And 4Wilde or 4Heisen + 2cottie 2darwin harmo
I think if Im not wrong 
4 heisen 2 cot 2 wilde
No sig? 
His sig so sht
Always has been
Since beronica
Aint no way
Does his weapon need reso?
4 Wilde works too
If Nana Heisen
It worse they say
Need? Not really
Dlt helps alot
Wilde
Hopefully ignition is next
Who?
And at what invest which zone which rot?
Imo we just simply dont have enuf data yet
@noble zinc come ere
Shiet just keeps being found afterall
The everchanging meta
Wait is this gin the whel
Nah, this one is fraud
thats ew
The leviathan Gin is a moderator

Ew is f2p 
ion
oh right is the memory set for plasma 4 heisen 2 wilde 2 cot?
wilde on harmo
darwin
mmm okay
18m wow
@buoyant hornet how was wilde
Ur comparing yoshi to me

atk, ult
Ok thank god I put the correct resos
my vera correct?
who is stronger in igniton ss0 vero or ss0 nanami
Vid not playing 
Vero
dante
Alpha
Why
who is that lol
Attacker + Kamui + Vero
Or just wait beta bruh
We dont even know how Alpha does her thing
U live in a cave or smthing?
Dante Wata Vero was one the igni meta
Nana ignition is slow

333?
i believe in ish supremacy


Maso













