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then
Yea and hold ba needs the number gauge to be at 90 minimum
Which needs 2x 3p red
Or hold dodge with full gauge
Wait wait
Since beta V3
What I'm basically saying is that you did 2 hold ba back to back without getting 90 stacks
The first hold ba is fine cuz you do 2x 3p red to get 90 stacks
The next one doesn't have that
are u doing 4 ult every rot?
i mean every swap
Also
I was thinking this for 4 rot
cuz if u wanna do 4 rot on 2nd swap u need to add a 3p blue on the 2nd rot
this one can do on 2nd swap
@young badge is this the one ?
Btw which one is better for overall
it depends
yes, Bonkerina + Wulf + Kamui can do it fine
but this needs you to put up with the incredible orb rng we all missed on Bonkerina 
How to know
whichever gives u better wave prgression
yeah
idk
Kamui's kit allows him to go over the plasma beam gauge uptime

But this means
He'll not have dmg buff from Lilith
For 1 rot
doesnt lilick buff for 12 seconds?
oh nvm tsundere baka doesnt have 6*

what if

I thought bonkerina orb rng will be the biggest mald I do this week, but chaos chika with horse proved me wrong 
for dark wz with 3s rose and lilith, what's 3rd unit? 2nd amp or 2nd tank for resos?
2nd amp
4dv4guin?
oh right keep forgetting thats a thing
is it mostly so you can spread dmg a bit better by moving Lilith to dps resos? and allows you to 2guin across waves ig
vs 2ein on tank is a little less impressive
i'm assuming 4bath on honse
whale 3s honse
gundam, fat dude, digimon for ppc
whataboout wz
dunno, no images there 
images wher
What a f2p week
huaxu lul

no need to manage ap this week 
🐳
Real whel score is 777,888,999 LMAO

Tho uslash rosetta deal less dmg in fast rotation, i forgor
how 9 hell digimon with ss3 horse? 
How u 10 with ss3
Hax

Wait, hy qte now gib u +1 stack btw
Dmg should be increased
Who tf is digimon
Powered
❓
bro never saw a digimon 
Gang who is that
seems like void also got
Svood trash
Wth, seen fire/light/ion/nihil team
Void trash

Ion should be boss
lightning also got
Rest allk mob
Light is so sht
Doubt
i think fire/ion lightning void
actually fun
Kms that 123232
And I don’t do sp delay liv
That's fun
pak light

Masochist
Over invest in one team be like
Pak liv
Uma blue orbs pov:

Just ping red

Zzz ass physics bro

Giveaway when
U got 1 mil subs
90% of them are mobs
2 zone at best I played with boss
Tho that near ded end
Of ion
gibeaway 3 reso
also i got now 1.2hp bar left on fire ib
and endings 3rd rot in 16s everytime
so sad to me
surly thats that 5%edb or that speed i missing for me
222 where
light and void zone looking shtty
Tho maybe 1 slash at start only, idk
2s Lilith went extinct

22.32.3 where
mob ion
For Kamui is outside the plasma beam gauge
TOMORROW?
Smth that windlao can't find when released
Nah yesterday
2.3 also extinct

maybe not
My acc
22.33
233
So anyways
1 rot for kamui is out of plasma gauge activated state
Meaning dude won't have plasma buff from Lilith
So vid yes?
Doesn't feel worth it

Commonly used inv will go for first
Perpetual 4 rot user
Up 3 said them
everyone have 3s nonomi
No
4 nana
2s kamu

How to solo kamui in ion whole run?
is lilick after ish or before ish
Ain’t that the same thing as 22.33
Ss6 nana don’t do nothing
Ys

Typo it was

But jk aside, really wonder how to solo ion
i hate this patch
I don't wanna do this 5y tap
kamui can sort of
Too bad 
What’s ion
ionization
The type of zone bro
wdym
Mobs too?
Aw man

Mixed zone?
Wut rest 2
light mobs

fire/ion zone is nasty
i am Not using lucia in fire kuro games
will see about ion
Don't have Luna nor Liv
Me sleep
Also I wander if ion can score better than fire
Highly unlikely because it has one DPS and Kamui deals a bit less damage than in fire
Is SS Ishmael or SSS Lilith a better off amp for lighting/ice content?
Lilith for ice
Ishmael for lightning
You could technically use lilith as a lightning amp by doing her plasma rotation but its awkward and not good for warzone
Good Morning, Commandants!
[04/May/2026 ➡ 10/May/2026]
Here's your weekly lineup prediction, have a nice week!
no im nirvatia
-# well yeah, i was weiss
Ty
Should I give namami heison to Kamui ? I don't have enough resources
It's over good luck next time
I’m bricked
hi hi, was looking at the meta teams list and saw that some teams will mention using amps as memory slotters (like to replace crepuscule in dark for example) which memory sets should i be using in those cases?
The 2nd amp will hold Guin and Davinci
just there as a qte bot right?
Yes
should i bother resonating/hypertuning those sets or no
You dont have to, if they dont even enter the field
Resonance would be good tho, class skill for amp
I see. Seems I should get Ishmael's sig then as I still don't have it
Good luck

ok gotcha, thank you ^-^ i guess i'll set teddy or vera or something
wrong date 
Lmao
Isn’t ur account gone soon
doing it to spite the game

Gib to me trust
pulled Bica first
I gib u a slap on the face


Ty lao
Putting ion and fire in the same slot is diabolical
That’s ion

That's plasma
more light mobs
I said ion in my head and typed lightning
Probably because I'm mad lightning is there at all
what was ion score on beta
🙂↕️
Fr
did we have one?

Light sucks
Omg I also suffer from that
u suck

U suck
Lmaooo don't even bother the beta testers were too distracted with funny zaza shenanigans that are no longer possible since v3
Move women

Plasma sucks in PPC
You need at least 3 seconds to even set up the damn thing
Cognitive fogging twin 🙏
oh dang, youre right
i made it exactly after i woke up
fixed, thanks for notifying
I need 4/5 because brick phone

Watapak nihil again
more nirvatrash
U can’t pls anyways


Smh
Snoozefest lightning AND it's mob

I forgot
2 seconds cuz Bonkerina still meta 
This week is just ion testing and SSS nirvatia testing for me
Fire should be better in wz than plasma, right?
Lightning mobs ruined this week wz
Yeah most likely lmao
i do that every weeks as well, habits of changing dates
Fire has an actual subdps that does actual damage
Babe would u mind me clogging ur dms with my teams for a lot of advice
Plasma does not, unless Lucia somehow manages to stay
Sure
Tomorrow though 
cook up something rq

Feyer how big nirvatrash 3s
Just asking consent before randomly doing so at any moment
I can't promise anything not with Lucia's 10 hour long setup between each ult 😭
just sss both 
Ss0 hanying is useable anyways
I'm not even sure what my team will do lol
sugoi
Ss3 luna ss3 ish SSS netia
Ish might stay but I might have to shift main dps priority to nirvatia over Luna
So ur saying I should spend 5.43$ on bp1

K whel
I mean BP in general is big value if you wanna spend it's a good place for your money to go
whel having sss horse but not sss nirv 
It’s ss9 rn
Imagine smh
hmmmm maybe ill try to add the frame corresponding to the weather if that will help any bit -next week
thanks for the idea :>
vertical invest be like


spend on me instead 


I prefer the char weather rather than the actual desc
cuz i needed it compact
otherwise your infographic is better for clarity
does Lucia's qte do ion dmg when the ion buff is active or no? 
Wouldn’t u wanna know weather boy
Pwo invest moment

All in on horse meanwhile everyone else 
At least you have broken horse at sss
it does
Speaking of, I'm thinking of trying something slightly ridiculous
Do tell
Ss0 kamui with sss wata in ion lmao
Just for the cd reduction

let him cook
It's a big sacrifice though
the duality
35% shred from ss3 nanami + the imaginary dmg Nanami does in plasma zone
inb4 the kitchen burns
I'll still give it a shot regardless who knows
Maybe more kamui swaps > shred 
Feyer where my 232 honse fire vid at
Now how am I supposed to do that 
who would have a that shafted invest except u

Vertical invest smh
I no like lighting
610 with 22.32.3 roach
Doesnt he has Liv
Yea

Who tf did he use selector on
Nanami right
2.3 liv huge
I do have skill issue
Plume trust
Ss0
2.3 liv can go like 7-8 cant she
Nanami
Wtf
Or didn't build it right didn't do it right tbh
solo? yh
Sp delay spam
not sp
I wanna be happier about my lucky dupes SSS liv, but it just means I'm stuck soloing and praying to solon lee that light amp is broken enough to swap with
normal
Idk then
@graceful summit to who did u use the selector on for joes account
Joe quit?
Wait was it fkng han
Mine can 22.33 can only do like 5.5
Yea
Ur looking at the current acting president of joe bobs account
2s liv so bricked
Waow the reincarnation of joe
Wtf r u doing
Idfk, liv is a pain to use
Watch lightning amp solo be better than swapping with ss0 brickpidity

She’s so ass bro
How the hell do you even rotate her
u just rot
Like 2 full ult 1 fast everytime or what
Slow ass rot
idk I just do fast ult opener and full rot all the way 

then voila 6.3
22.12 lightning should be scoring 7-7.5m on a boss zone lol, assuming proper cubs and 112 resos minimum
Liv is running linya
still
2 long rots every swap + 3ult nanami strat
Also no ht cuz she was on 4 nat with sig reso
Nana can work with normal strat but it's boring and lame
So no Fast ult on liv?
Nope

Nana unga bunga
Also no hold dodge except maybe once, the rest is either sp delay or 3x orb pings > ult1
Sp delay isn't actually ALWAYS better funny enough
eww sp delay in wz 
Can you even do sp delay at 2s
Because of qte cooldowns
just do sp delay 
Yeah
Yeah
Do tell
Die
Lightning attackers always sp delay curse
Idk if I ever uploaded with that invest
2 long rots on Liv with sp delay still gives u little time before u can swap back to nana 
pak dat
I can tolerate it in ppc if needed cuz need to do only once per run
but wz? nahh. never 
@pulsar estuary @delicate pumice
https://youtu.be/3-qGE0TEUjw
SS0 Liv - 4Heisen 4Cottie + Glorious Afterglow wep reso
SS3 Nanami - 4Herschell 2Cottie 2Eins - Domain deconstruction + DLT*
SS0 Ishmael - 4DV 4Guin + amp resos
This strat can be used without DLT on nanami but she will need to start the run with one full basic attack rotation then swap to Liv.
This is an old version of 3ult nanami though lol
There's a new better version that also doesn't use dlt
the 3 ult nana rot feels gut to do 
Sp delay where
didn't use duh
yeah that one I use on Dow's, still okay tho
not much difference
btw, the 3 ult nana rot optimal with sss nana too?
nah

If liv does rerun next patch, should i even get her? i have 38k bc but some of that will go to alpha and her sig...if i get liv and her sig too i dont think i'll have any savings to get future sigs comfortably
i feel like we'll get a lighting amp soon that'll make liv not that necessary
Ehhh
Solo nanami
I can technically do 3 ults in ~10s, but skipping a slam then
Go brrr
exactly
solo ss0 r1 nanami is enough for ppc right? thats all i really care abt
warzone is whatevr its not like its rewards are THAT good for me to want to be in the 1st tier, 2nd tier is enough
i see
Yep much more fun that non-cottie nanami basic attack jank
I want to be able to enter extensive ppc weekly so i can get those juciy extra 6 scars
6 extra scars woowww
damn
I used it on 2 or 3 swaps only that run, on the rest of the swaps it caused breakpoint issues because QTEs were misaligned
Just kamui it tbh
hopefully it comes around once before liv rerun so i can test my account against it and see if i really need her
Unfortunately no 😭
What is liv sp delay
The 3ping before ult 2?
Ss0 liv is hot garbage but idk if you should go for it tbh, she may have more value after the lightning amp drops
Pak it’s nuke playing in a dark ass room
I cant seem to do it on Laptop so idk
There's a tutorial of it at the start of this video I'm too lazy to explain 😭
https://youtu.be/BRHRtEh759c
This zone is pretty fun but has some tricks to optimize it. Super high scoring.
00:00 Builds
00:05 SP Delay tutorial
01:10 Run
My mobile is too ass to sp delay
what is sp delayyy
Try to decipher the fake dodge and doubleslit mechanism into one by one.
#pgr #pgr_cn #퍼니싱 #퍼니싱그레이레이븐
Sp just means signature/ult energy
Wait
Sp delay is a tech used on some characters
Is it just blue ping before ur ult 2
oh, so sp delay is continuing rotation even after getting enough energy to ult?
That’s what I’m seeing on nuke
Setsu used to make such good guides I'm mad kuro pushed him to the point of quitting lol
it's pinging right at you ult, then the energy it gives you comes after instead of overcapping
Bruh
It has to be timed perfectly
What, what happened to him?
He quit during Rosetta beta
ohhhh

The horrible Rosetta beta and breaker mechanics in general
ty
Because they doubled down on breakers having GA and attacker resos and kinda screwed balancing and the class system
Looks like ima be malding at someone in light mobs this week
wait why was it horrible? i get breaker being broken makes some people upset but hey pgr has always been about power scaling
for Liv that extra energy is enough that she can enter ult again after pinging twice instead of needing to hold dodge or dodge into a third ping
it's easier to do on ass mobile tbh

had that experience
Wtf how
Move the ult button to be on top of the 3 pings
How much time sp delay save
When u press ult u press the 3 ping
I know, but it doesnt make sense to do it in potato mobile
Respectfully
Like 2s per rot
the time it takes to 3x3p or 2x3p hd
I’ll take my 6 mil and call it a day
It's not just about it being broken, it's about the horrible SSS breaker mechanic of "QTE charges"
Turned high invest gameplay into QTE slop
real
i see
Honestly less than 2s lol
Fair more like 1.5
Woah
wow moni
<@&595893856554319873> Oh my god how many more of these people
Moniiiiii
3s alpha 
There's genuinely very little difference between 3x 3ping and sp delay x2 3ping
It's definitely more impactful in darkflow than lightning lol
What’s darkflow
Because of sss wata swap reduction and whatnot
Yea HD isn't doing sht in DF

All I know is dark off ele
yes, im boycotting sp delay
wow 15m off ele dark
Darkflow is sp delay: the final boss 
Wtf so whel

honse 
K whel
Horse more consistent but idk if wata has a higher ceiling @noble zinc should know better

me 7th
Homeless ahh
homeful
Me demote to leader
Imagine playing this gaem

still
Bruh
I had to fight to retain and got 5th place with 24m what is that bracket
you already know the state of my phys team
I think
222 sigless hanying vero 
God damn
Hero?
My hero bracket had a 50 mil person ;-;
Play in asia 
Its so peaceful in here
😊
that's normal, my leg had 4 of those, nobody below 35
Gaem so ded even f2p can score 30-35m now
Ye me f2p
Wouldn't even surprised 40m soon

How does that make the game dead


Too high of a dream for me
Mi bombo
K whel
So whel
But u get top 10 anyway
As expected
I only got 36m as my highest malding wz isn't really on my liking
Lightning mobs
Not when i will forget do ion
I casul
I hate it
Why i need learn 4 teams and ppc and ib strat this fkng patch
Not enough i not had sim coin
I had more problem with dou elite nihil
Luna qte missies is diabolical
6 million crown control skill required
I'm new, is vera gei Good? I got kamui then I pulled her from the basic banner before someone tells me that i should get Rosetta
Not the worst option
2nd best
Ur fire will good
But ur dark will not really
I got her for Kamui's team but i was told to Get a dps for each elements first, i can set up team later
When's what?
Ur dark team
Cuz in this case luna lilith and ur best tank will ur dark team
I don't play much on nihil cuz I've got a weird invest 2s0luna and 3snirva hitting 11-10m and dip
No ish in the team too

so... dirge over feral?
feral iss just gone right? dead to lightning team?
so cooked
🥹
whats the build for Kamui plasma?
Heisen and Cot, for the last 2 it could be willde
thanks
feral feels
as my favorite frame
I know her time has come
she's underperforming
should I just use dirge for lightning
I’m still using scire 

:I
Why's bro putting nihil amp in light

Where ur ish
ish for lightning?
Ofc
daren still relevant she never dies
Pgr actually eos when Daren got powercreep
We have been living in a simulation ever since

Get out
Get out
Take off your skin
You're not free

Sugoi
5% edr power
Dont have one yet

We need our Tsundere queen back
lightning amp
how does ss0 kamui do 4 ults in IB? i did it somehow on my onetap but not sure how to do again lol
2nd rot
Oh wait
1st rot is just the standard opener
Are we talking about ss0 or ss3
ss0
It is the slam rot?
did slam rot on 1st rot of each swap
i don't think i did another hb after that, but in my subsequent tests i'm not sure how i could've got enough orbs/energy to do another hd rot otherwise
dlt kamui fwiw
Swap > 🟡 > 2x3 🔴 > hold ba > ult
Hold yellow full > hold dodge (let matrix proc > ult
Hold yellow till full > ult
Hold yellow till full gauge > hold dodge > ult
Something like that
I do 4 ult ender in wz so it might be similar
what does the matrix proc do, is it just for breaker shred
maybe its that cuz usually i cancel with ult
Matrix orb
oh right for the hold yellow after it costs less then? and maybe gives enough orb econ for that 4th rot?
The idea is like that
But idk, I wouldn't know 4 rot on 2nd swap would have enough orb or not
yep that was it, it worked
Nice
top 15% on fire ib with 232 122 i guess i can't complain
Ultimate is kinda squishy too this week
ya looks like top 99 needs 3s
Especially with hanying leap
ya i'm 47th there, my chiko sucks tho
was hoping i could offtype with 3s honse but apaprently she's not the speed powerhouse kamui is
Honse suck ass
rip
well i can't complain i luccsacc 3s with the 2 discounted wishing target 10 pulls
Her change form only has timestopable on first cast, the rest will proc the nuke dmg
But without timestop if it's near dead waves, you wasted your entire nuke dmg
Not talking about that horrendous orb system
i mean not a problem for PPC but yeah 2nd rot just too slow vs kamui prob on 3rd rot already
Kamui has insane flexibility because you can cancel half of his attacks
His ult not limited to any gauge or stack is also a major factor too
You can just spam orb until you have enough energy for ult and your ult will still do maxdmg
All in for best dps in the game 🔥
yeah i should prob r2 him at the very least
F2P will be hitting 70m if everybody that comes after Kamui are as strong as him
I didnt have teneb, I was stuck using no.21
Pre rework bath and teneb kinda goes hard
I remember bricking by using my selector on luna instead of rosetta

because at that time luna was best pick
if r2 which 2 should he choose? i saw the no dlt rot vid and that seems pretty strong but not sure if dlt rot is better
You always have been 
Testing today 
I didn't have enough time to test non dlt score and just slap r3 on him
I GOT RIGOR FROM SHARDS
I BUILT HER ENTIRELY FROM THE BATTLEPASS SHARDS
😭
IT TOOK 1.3 YEARS
allat and STILL NO SIG
Dlt score vs dd score for r1 in comparison
wait does co-op still exist? I haven't touched that damn gamemode since lamia
oh i guess i have an even weirder test case of DLT vs GA cuz Wata holding DD
does Res Echos still have any value in WZ on tanks that have shred fields?
Nope lol
not sure if it helps with application consistency
Even in wz reso echo haa been irrelevant for a decent amount of time
rip ok i guess just for IB/PPC for tanks that don't drop field on QTE
Fast wave kill = extend no need
true true, guess wata is sticking with ML + DD lol
Wata is the first gen3
Before that was Daren and Mech
Even mech didn't used reso echo I believed
I joined on mech patch too
cool loook but so clunky and weak 🙁
I mean honestly, she started the off field shred thing 
wasn't that garnet
They were trying cool shi with her
Also true
But like after ult and stuff
Garnet has it on qte
So it's like the new breaker qte skill and nana qte
true. that was an interesting experimental period with the mess of daren release as well and making ss3 mandatory for a moment
now kinda still the same concept for attackers
Daren introduced sub rank system
But everything else plopped
And left behind

You can argue the new breaker hypermatrix is extension of Daren SSS shred
But that's that
That's coming alongside sub rank system yeh
What are these fossils doing smh
Previous tank has shred upgrade on sss
Shred on sig has been a thing from older time
Glory 
glory 💀
Isn't pulse also has shred on sig
But fortunately
They were generous enough to slap some on qte too
man so much cancer back then
You wouldn't even know if your shred miss or hit

Malding mobs
Only one can imagine at this point
kamui so good in gb

dang i tried to get to top 10% with r2 kamui but still stuck at 11%
only shaved 2s, not enough
Where do you see that non dlt rot again
I didn't have enough time to try more things with kamui
I'll upload a run demonstrating this later
0:04 Notes
0:09 First swap
0:33 Second swap
1:02 Third swap onwards
1:36 6th swap
Thanks

Feyer lao
Interesting
Where 5* weap ref
brainded kamui rot
5 ult ? 
Where
Playing like old ion team but kamui instead of pyro, bruh

I need to understand what's the build here
Cuz I can't understand
Ez
Is Nanaknight on Cottie
4 wilde 2/2 kamui
4 heisen 4 sig nonomi

4 wilde 2 Cottie 2 Darwin?
Yup
what the hell 4 willde

Just steal from some one
Makes sense now that I look at it
The buffing from wilde is....weird
But 4 heisen should work
Time to feed pyro Sig 
Just less dmg
I thought its smaller than heisen
This is cancer
wtf is this build
Nowae
It's higher
But
Wilde doesn't have the shred
That's it
Ppc lao
Nanami has
Hi
Well, nonomi's there i guess

Oh, since its plasma, does Kamui still need Dlt?
Yes
R3 needed
Fck


















