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SS3 Kamui is too strong bruh
Kuro did not think this through
Finally a crazy strong male character though

I hope alpha gets the same treatment

When you're a poor pgr player:
you want alpha to get the bianca treatment?
what should i get for a rank in basic banner? are there helpful ones?
not really tbh
you can prob just get the recent a-ranks
wont be too helpful in the longrun
Op asf plz
but garbage at low invest?
Dawg im literally out of 5 star weapon fragments i cant even buy sht in the next patch💔
specially gen3
bold of u to assume I even have his 5*
and him

Yeah i did spend 200% of my bc savings from the 3x event to lucias sig and cub
bruh dont remind me I've benched bianca faster than any other unit when I got rosetta
What if Alpha gon be the first ever frame to have a new class
my Bica never benched 
empyrea? rosetta?
My Pyroath be SS3 sig weap and SS cub
For attackers
new class wont mean sh*t if all they offer is dmg
Ampli for support
Breaker for tanks
Plz no
then she 3s or bust atkr
Aw men
we need something like permanent off-field dmg
and so we are
not sure if I can even consider myself lucky I didn't invest on ss3 pyroath
Lucky in a way
is 12M good with Kamui/Vera/Lilith 322 ? (in leader wz)
also considering she might not get a leap atp
leader scoring no clue on this
My acc is old but my ahh keeps quitting

oh you're prob gonna get hated by styling fans when kamui is fairly brainded
I know I'm top 1 on Huaxu but idk the diff between leader and hero or leader
if you're in leader and is top 1 on huaxu, you might be ok
since we have no reference for hero below
the 12M would have been more or less if it was hero wz ?
me Vanguard
more

oh nice
def more
scout where
also why u purple again u fatass
this whel
I mean I always have been in hero or legend but last week Kuro casually decided I will have to fight some of the craziest whale
Hell yeh let me thrkw legends so i csn bully in hero
bunch of whels
He's stronger than sss lucia in ion too?
@buoyant hornet yes ironically I used him at ss without lucia he gave me a sub 25 run
Then I added lucia sss in place of nanami did her normal fast fast full rotation and went to kamui for his single rotation at tht point it was already past 30sec
The fact tht she couldn't finish boss in 1 round while kamui obliterated it and he can do multiple ulta
He's just way beyond her at this point
Her taking almost 30s feels wrong 😭
You sure the sets were correct and the gauge was properly activated on that attempt?
Yep
But yeah checking their multipliers looks like kamui may just be stronger even at base lol
He also shreds ppc in 10 secs he's just damn satisfying
444 ion lucia can get atleast 19 sec plasma on tifa
Whts a 444
with nanami
max invest
Sss+ then full resonance
I do only use single resonance on my guys
Tht also put her a bit behind but I don't really mind
espada can get 15 sec with his espadainvest
Hi guys. I just want to ask, what is the rotation for SSS Luna, SSS Nirvatia and SSS Ishmael? and what would be their builds?
SSS3 Oblivion R3 ss cub (4cleo 4 cott 6 ult atk)
SSS0 Parhelion R3 ss cub (4sototh 4cott 6 ult atk)
SSS0 Dirge R3 ss cub (4dv 2 guin 2 eins 6 class atk or yellow)
i hate this zone eins miss a lot
#punishinggrayraven
#punishinggrayravengameplay
#punishinggrayravenglobal
that
@glass abyss
https://youtu.be/guSwiopPNqg
#punishinggrayraven #punishinggrayravenglobal #legendwarzone # pgrcn #nirvatia #dirge #luna #ishmael #nihil
Keep in mind at that invest you really have to pay attention to Luna qte usage
she gonna miss half that
Loona blind
Thank you so much!
Feyer since there seems to be a good chance for kamui plasma build to be heisen cot theoretically would it be viable to just keep Darwin instead of using Wilde as the last 2pc
I gotta conserve as much mats I can
nah, another s-rank next patch
spend those ht mats
Guys should i make a new acc atp
whel on my acc
literally at 30k rn
my kamui plasma build is literal random resos
good deal
I'm not sure lol I think darwin should be better unless he has gaps of over 4s between orb pings
u ain't nuke, so it's a money sink


Btw now that we know 3ult isn't a bug I'm afraid Lucia might be DEAD dead 😭
Someone called my account bricked
So I just build cot dar on main set then
Shake/heisen on harmo
Your new ones gonna be bricked too anyway
the office did explain that, and only whel invest lucia can survive
what did you do
and leap is very unlikely atp
Idk man i wasjust took broke to afford anythin
dawg
I actually didn't think of that lol I build the ele mems on main 😭😭

Dms imma tell u da whole story
Ty for the idea lol it'll save mats on my 2nd account
If kamui can just do 2 slam rots > fast ult rot in ion then that's even more reason to kick lucia unfortunately
well then, time to do kamui-nanami-lilith
Alr gng i told u the whole story
Drk what to do atp
Should i just hard restart?
if you feel like it
Or is my acc saveable
i forgot if you dropped your huaxu here
I have been struggling to gather bcs lately
your account ain't bricked, just crooked
Should i just spend my savings and whale
What should i do then
How fast can he do 3 slam rots btw?
I only had my Lucia and Nirvatia well built
if you allow his hold ba slam, you might exceed 5 sec
Well my nirvatia stilll lacks some resos but thats it
So 12s total or something?
roughly, does kamui need full gauge or something to hold ba?
As long as the numbers > or equals to 90, he can do it
Yeah seems so
assuming that you don't have any bc rn
get lilith and you have plasma team
grind hell (including CWave and ATundra) and try pulling kamui and you have fire team
pay 5rc and buy the luna oblivion and put obli, lilith, knightnami and you have cope lightning team
But if he does it after full gauge atk, he does it faster however
if he does hold ba, that 90 or so stacks disappear?
He consumes it
oof, that's gonna look slow if you do multiple hold ba
also more orbs consumed
teddy and wanshi are free, and they're already the core of ice team
I hab lilith so should i build her and also i do alr had pulled kamui and do have a budget build on bro rn but on nanami im not sure i cant afford her 5 star weap now
uhh, forget about phys 
Yeah, so you should do it after he has 180 stacks]
Or so i thought, i ignored that and do 4 ults instead
Budget build 🥀

Kamui can do like 7 ults from the second entrance in fire
Does hold ba give any sort of orb refund?
I haven't read that part of the kit, but it looks like it?
also matrix reset helps
You get 5* weapon shards just by doing daily tasks
Oi ss0 r1 s cub is not espadainvest 
If triple hold basic rot takes like 12-14s it might be viable in ion lol especially if you don't have sss tank
pak, donate that reso rn
Forgot to say to also forget about dark 
Btw very morbid thought, imagine if SSS wata is better than nana in ion LMAOOO
How do i work on their memo resonance tho?
Just ask in this channel
nuh
not in my case
fk that unc
Fk whel

Phat nana invest
I feed my r3 empy Sig for r1 kamui 
You don't 
I'm broke
Fr?
tbf I still have tempest and capri sig, but no way I'm giving those away
Okay, feed ur pianissimo Sig then 
It's either gamble (assuming you didn't get 500k simulated shop currency) or go broke cuz you have like 30+ reso to get (memo selector from wz only give 2 with discount, and assuming you don't jump between hero-legend consistently that's not really sustainable)
Or you could brute force some reso and buy the memo reso selectors with RC 
Idk what to try on ion atp lmao there's so many combinations to consider
If we assume he just murders Lucia entirely then even the double tank strats can have a lot of different strats
I'm gonna take the budget route and not bother with 4 wilde
Sss wata, ss0-ss3 nana, different kamui mem builds or strats
I was thinking maybe 4cot 2dar 2wild
Wilde*
kamui should have qte shred too right? that means he can just safely hold heisen and debuff that way
we might even see lilith holding her sig set
Yeah but then nana will be stuck with eins gloria
And those will never keep up with the fast wave deaths in ion
Very poor consistency
you'll sacrifice something either way
I'll lab how fast he can triple slam when I log, if it's reasonable I'll just build sig mem and test when wz happens
I'm not exactly poor on ht mats anyway
Just don't wanna waste it on a set that gets zero use
I could temporarily steal liv's heisen

6 usbs to rereso ult wouldn't be too bad
@mighty tusk kinda impossible to test every single one of those combinations tbh lmao
https://youtu.be/6F-pXVX8Tqo Is this duo DPS strat only applicable for 3S Lucia?
#punishinggrayraven #thedyingsun #Aeternion #legendwarzone #firewarzone #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #vera #wata #lucia?
Yeah lol
There's an extremely slim chance it may be worth trying on 2.122 team
But without sss amp qte reset even that looks really cooked
pyro 2.1 qte buff starts to do dmg so it's useful then

yea
cooked
does lightning work?
No
i dont play lightning
cuz i dont want to build plasma kamui until build is confirmed
Well, you deals close to no damage
It's useful but you can only proc it so many times without amp reset
it's bleak

guess we just ball
his build isnt confirmed tho

whats the skull gain again in expc?
The build is surly keeped we had now
oh it fixed for plasma too?
Not entirely sure, no warzone to test
Its just "Most likely"
For ppc/ib same as fire just with haisen
Unless you wanna test it in dou lightning rn
Wz will testied

Technicly can
guess i will just borrow for onetap

dont think i can 30% anyways
not being homeless
IB is whels territory anyways

I cant get honed domination
assuming no new bosses
66 x the week
And 75 x new bossies
so 330 per patch ig
unless its a 6w patch like this

well
its not too bad
but
if back to back s ranks
ill suffer
Everyone does

We're low on Hypertune as well, and theres just so much of a place to farm it
i mean

hypertune is not that bad
but
Homeless territory
they should stop making useless signature sets
If played during sync u won't be broke in skulls the real problem is simulation coins
Who u again
Guys guys

that bish is a scam
Where ur Lilith cottie 
Oh yeah
Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby comparison
2 ult should be 15s 
That exists
Phone won't allow
my lilith is qte bot now
Plasma beam enabler though

Oh wait does Hanying leap change her a lot? Or still same rot? Mine is SS
Also which ib this week
Ion and the other?
@ripe stag can help him?
Hi guys. Another question, do you have a video guide on how to do triple ult rotation for Ishmael? Coz I think I might be doing something completely different.
Ss3?
Do you have her at ss3
SSS
K whel
Can you try to follow this
K whel
She flexable so had some variant
Thank you! Yeah, mine's very different.
It's like I use her drop kick every time
https://youtu.be/WFpgSoKte1g?is=-y7iXzPOXJA79ku5
Video format
Quick demonstration on what full speed Ish rot looks like for wz at SS3+ (I'm SSS3 here). Inputs below:
1st: Swap, Ult1, 3R, Yellow, 3R, 3R, dodge, dodge, Ult2
2nd: Ult1, 3R, dodge, hold dodge, 3R, dodge, dodge, Ult2
3rd: Hold dodge, Ult1, 3R, dodge, hold dodge, 3R, dodge, dodge, Ult2
Shoutout to my bestie @MusouMiko for compiling a nice infog...
Thank you!
Need dlt
Also she flexable so had some Variant too
But that the general one
I see. Thank you! I probably am one of the variant users.
if no dd then lower damage if no second tank or r2

I got a question regarding Vera, how do all the videos I see manage to get past her hold basic part so fast? Every time I try to dodge cancel it I get no ult energy.
Using cot?
and using movement keys
Dodge when hold ba immediately
Cottie yes
So I have to dodge in a direction and not stationary is that it?
I wasn't for now
I thought you wanted to use her block and not a dodge
I'll try it rn
if you lock on the enemy it'll just move you toward them so no loss
I just tried and somehow I'm still not getting the energy still with the lock
on one of the dodges it cancels the energy gain if i remember
U dodge 2x or 3x?
Only need 2 dodge

I'll try that
Sorry my brain is very smooth
Misinfolao smh
I thought it was dodge all
Report, mod ples ban
Whel
And I just got it first try with 2 dodge
Pls ban
K whel
Thanks for the help
3s honse
Joystick move on vera for fire
Can bric your run
It moves the enmy here and there
Kamu slams then miss chance very high
If wave chain going
Where cub
in the store
Mine is still slow as hell compared to this, need to git gudder I guess
are you using controller or keyboard
yea, for movement just hold w and press the third orb or 3 with index, it'll 3 ping anyway
pgr is love, pgr is life
Thanks for the advice
Also is it normal that I can't put keybinds on my mouse side buttons?
you should be able to
I tried multiple times and it's not recognising the input
I'm new to this game, do I have a code?
might be the mouses problem or some technical, mine detects mouse side buttons
what code?
I'll rebind some random key to the button while PGR is open I guess and try that
Oh one last question, I'm always short one orb on Ishmael when doing the first rotation, even though I got dlt. Where could that missing orb be going?
is she ss3?
SSS
Yep
infinitas?
i'm doing the rot and getting one extra orb
any ishmael malders could help you more prolly
So what I'm missing is the last orb just before second ult 2 to get the 3ping after dodge
The weird thing is sometimes I get the orb and sometimes I don't
are you using blue orb before start of ult 2?
No, i go swap-ult1-red-yellow-red-red-dodge-dodge-red-ult2-ult1-hold dodge-red-red-dodge-dodge-(would use red here but sometime I only got 2 orbs sometimes 3)-ult2
first ult you have problem
after 2 dodge you red orb
you don't need to red orb
just ult
and second ult also
U slow
Yellow only 6s get u orb
In the timer
Oh so it's a speed issue?
U need to finish the 3 ult in 9/10s
8.x sec is tryhard
malding speed
I guess that was my issue then
o 2.3 to 3 rot changes of course
Or use Marco
Okay I tried it now tryharding speed (rip my phone) and yeah I'm getting it consistently now. Do the speed was the problem


Thanks for the help again
Yeah now that I tried as fast as I could I got it each time.
I spaming the ss3 rot btw
But think this wz
Kick fast kick can get me better results
took off ish from team got me better results 

too fast and qte cd isn't up yet
This fraudmael
Why I have to intentionally slow down
what weapon harmonize for kamui? im using feynman and 2p cottie
i dont have wata/lucia and vera
first lets remove that feynman and add shakespear
Feynman is trash
then what to harmonize? im planning to use ish and some fire unit to fill for now
Darwin
4shakes 2cot 2darwin
But but but... Pretty woman...
if you want to use ish, then the fire unit needs to be attacker class
i know...
am i tripping or its just wata is using class skill reson?
No, wata uses class skill
i still have 1 selector up to nanami thinking if i should get lucia or just farm voucher for wata
If not class skill what reson tho? I've been using class skill since forever
b4 did he was core right?
Well, its a long time ago when Hyperfraud's there
Its not even core, its ult
lucia won't be doing damage until start of ss3,
seems i miss everything now 💔
He used sig move, until Lucia comes up
so he just second dps or just qte?
Right now, QTE
i see plus i have to get her sig probably i just get nanami then farm for wata
but now kamui take the leade
Still using Class
Kamui uses Sign move reso
so ill just use ish and random fire attacker that will never hit the field? 
Yesh
thats why i feel my wata feel buns…
well it will be bricked for any scores, but ish atleast amp
guys for plasma lilith
is it better to use 2 piece harmonized einsteina or guinevere
Or just bring luna if no other opt
4 davinci 2 gloria 2 eins am i riggt?
wz uses alphonse
wait so this one exppc for knight or chaos?
alphonse is wz
its fine im new player i only got dark,nihil,ice, raydiance team rn trying to build fire
oh this works? ill just fo this then
as long as you don't build bricks from the beginning
For me yes
But i mostly 9s
Rarely going 8.x sec
And qte still getting
Still 4 dv 4 alph
Since Alph is for his kit specific debuff

Luna just for qte

Alph for wz
alright i think im doing fine, thanks for the help!
Willde dumdum
Ppc don't need

thats not
So he uses eins gloria then
he cope with 3s rose
Wata in ppc


this one

Oh, i still have his 4 Cottie set
its for chaos / hell


i use shakespeare for knight
playing against gwyn?
just copy from the ppc laos
not yet
my dark not completely
gwyn is fire tho 
Wtf
K fosillao
K whel
I guess same
If lightning only count nanami then
no
my physical team and dk > fire still buns just for now
i need live weapon cuz i didnt get her 6 star weapon 
all those ss0 and have 2 6 star weapon except my fine wife liv
she still 5 weapon 😭
oh damn sigless Liffu
im try to saving for 6 star weapon that i dont need it and ill try use recycle

That's not good
You don't recycle

nah i mean im saving one of those weapon i dont need it

Which is reso
class skil?

Generaly i say
Not only for liv


fr


Whaletami can't be this poor
Says you
that's just one bank acc frozen
his other 6 still alive


And a bit of alpha patch
Me will welcome u to kiwi club
oh u join me and khaled in kiwi land


But Laovisha
come to us Attami
You still pilot
I kiwi from my acc
Come at attami



My acc will not piloted
gave mine to friend 
Where my dark pilot

Cant say here the 2nd option
You pilot my dark
Lao do you pilot 233 fire
No u
I don't pilot you specifically
2s kamui?

Where ori?
Oli meanie

fck u pilot
Mine on 2.2

Lao segs
yo does ss kamui beat ss3 lucia cuz lowk i needa feed her weapon
used product
Yes
thank God
If lucia isnt 3s, then she's out
all the more reason not to do it 
Can't beat khaled acc tho
YES
Brothel
what if I don't have wata
man more double amp comps....

I thinking why u now boncka wife


:ploomicehurt
whats the finalized build for kamui

Sorry miss spell
Time to buy new mobile when my money unfreesed
Paking whel smh
I got promoted 
I still get stepped on even now so I won't complain 
We don't know if she's kicked out of plasma yet lol
Same
And she might still get leaped keep that in mind
Ppc ib she kicked i seen
a bit unlikely atp
mostly due to the fact fire is in a good state rn
Wata got leaped when fire was in a good state too tho

before wata leap, it barely cracked 20 mil iirc
Wata got leaped cuz not much better than a burn tank

If no off ele penalty then surly better
What teams cracked 20mil at that time tho?
......are you forgetting something?
Only 2-3 iirc, no?
2 yea
Well only 2, so fire was good, not one of the best tho
But now it's one of the best

it cracked near 39 mil that dark barely reached iirc
dark was 38.x something

not even qte nuke + enhanced off field dmg can save lopsided invest vera

Her qte nuke is maldy
Kamui have all no problem in wave kill
If they leap wanshi there'll still be time for lucia
No one was cracking 20m except for affixes 
In vera matter more on my wz
Just no leap anyone in this point for a while in my oponion
40m is insane
yea
yea, fire, plasma, glacio was close to them
Where got this from
office
Who did that know?
matt sent this
Solo bug

They fixed it
Ah
My sss3 vera not better to me
Or just more maldy to me.
Only now i felt i just need gain speed and better qte managemnt on kamui rots
But i not tried 4guin on her
People have gotten over 40m 
So solo is alive?
Apparently it was for the first few days of the patch
Not anymore

Kuso trying to not release the character with beta bugs

A key part is trying
Next beta has an NDA. Surely everything will release in a polished state 

people assume the beta is for alpha
when it could also just be another game mode
Nda mean what?
I sht with shortenenss
Another 10 fps mode 
No disclosure agreement or smth like that
Non disclosure agreement
You cant share info with others
Oh I actually got it right
Alpha got the super duper secret beta for her
Not like we're gonna see leakes the same day the beta drops

Super secret beta for super secret bugs
Lao, will you play 3S roach and ss3 kamui?
Will search for acc after SS3 run done
who wanna pilot s+ kamui
sir nudist what rot for 332 fire
600rc a week
Don't knkw
Yt see
no
i can do 600 rupees a year
You can do 600 rupees a minute
"not done again" or something
Weak 
So we will only know which kuro livestream us
Thats kinda sus
Yeah
Yes
Lao now what changed?
Oh
Damn
Seems fine SS0 be just spam stonk
If goes more 3s will go bric
Kamu weather hope 22 can cross
Sun will
now fire runs need to finish first 
thanks

Oh! Like how babylonia gamemode beta had an NDA and when it came out the characters were turning into abyss entities!

ishmael mustve hacked poor indie company servers


- at 10 fps
Yeah that one
Also time to datealonia
Dating with liv will no homo
it's already like that on the babylonia
i think they optimized it last patch or whenever the b part came out
on mobile i wouldn't expect anything

I good only pc
im not good both
if you in hero wz, you already top 5%
babylonias only gotten worse since honse update
on mobile
can spend like 10 minutes there max before my phone turns into a frying pan
atleast heating for winter
Nuke is also winka

Sometimes ofc
The player in ur bracket

What if u hero top 2 or top1?
3.9%
In eu surly 2%
in eu prolly .2%
looking at lb's eu has ~5k players
Never had more tb
Max 7k in peak or 8
Heroin sadly

how'd that work out
He s+ i sss

wait score not 70m+ ?
oh wait nvm
Donno
He only 2 zone yet
In huaxu
In game lb not know
That eu heroin
Typical Eu
china is 10x more
Good old days when it was 30-40
Make sense
NA slightly better than eu
I like how slightly is used here
it might have been playing a role
eu hero don't have this much
pgr ded
lmao hero china 58k
ppl complaining about eu look at japan
I think cn legend wz is bigger than the whole eu population 
not even 10 bracket 
close
tw has less
korea funny number 
KR and its 10 players

we close with tawain
or playing with yourself with diff accounts
yea imagine bracket full of alts
This is peak eu
China - 4112
SEA - 469
NA - 279
EU - 187
JP - 125
TW - 86 (iykyk)
KR- 69 
Damn I did not know ppl use address bars on the bottom
I thought everyone had it on top
peak eu back in the days
it's closer to the thumb so people use it
waiting for one that uses it on the side
eos

I mean they did an update a while back and I haven’t really tried to revert it back to top
we can only dream
4k in legend i pretty good
china hypercarry
globalul eos
Nah just gacha addicts
nah what gacha is in this gaem ?
globul eos and my life will be kuro's

fate
just 15k and u good to go

that's for whels
tencent pushing kuro to eos pgr 
it's for better luck, more chance to ss3 in 10 pull
First time works then you eat it

||me got kamui in 95 so no||
vera 87, kamui 23
Surly my alpha pulls is just a 10
never touching that sht again
Kamui?

bro kiwited
surely
Did that mf get new frame
ye
Oh man what happened to my game
since it'll give you 3 copies in a 10pull, it'll take 30 pulls
Too many males now
10 copie will go crasy
our yearly m*le release
a whole another male in half a year
ss3 is the best i can do for males.
Disgusting
lucky bast
not fate
Mine is 60 60 60 6

yea i wish for more females too, glad alpha next
me can't even early on themed
alpha male trust

Sigma famale
Wait WHAT?
u read right
that's right
alpha next
Hell naw they want new players so badly
i hab no BC for alpha 
now 8 lucia wives (incl. ww.)
100+ larper next patch
New players who play a week
they know she sells
Their secret weapon
look at eu stats in 2025 vs 2026 
2024
2023 
2010
from 8 to 187 is crazy work
10000 bc
stonk
That by wz change
@peak halo you 🐳 next patch?
Eu was not for the weaklings
he always 🐋
whel until 3s is fake whel
whel on my account like its yours
you have to go down on him first
Btw is kamui tank?
how down
breaker
breaker
Wtf is that
new sht class
breaker = stronger tank
with atk weap reso
Don’t tell me amp but tanks version
more like atk but tank
Hell naw
yes












