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232 honse fire here I come
skissue
4 Guin 4 Cot?
Think ur short by about a half there
10mil I mean
🤔
me go sleep
Whole extra 10 mil
What's wz this week
4 guin 2 cottie 2 ein
Nukelao has 223 reso in the first place
Yea
Homeless invest but whel wp reso wtf
i assume kamui needd sig too right

that's not the guine at work, it's just the usual nude hax
nude hax 👀
Yes
Yes
Alpha might be limited soooo
Nvidia is a special case yesterday, she has a different banner type
phylotrash banner shares pity too
Yes
whats the best pick here ? 
Watch alpha gonna need her ss3 or be bricked again smh
most liekly ngl
ohh right, wuts hanging leap about? any diff rota / stronker debuff?
oblivion or solactune idk
Faster rot, and she can go without dlt now i think
shred field, more slash dmg, and faster rot
What rank is each character and their respective teams
oh and 20% more def shred now so cath dead
whats hanging leap
So nuke has 4piece guin with incan and GA on Vera and GA and DLT on Kamui to do 3 ults instead of 2 every rotation.
That's the only difference between me and the video invest
Yes that's a lot but
Still a lot
I find it extremely hard to believe that's a 10 mil score difference
i only have luna SS rank from those 4
A whole 10 million
isn't there better things to buy with vouchers
some of it is legit gonna be skill issue, nuke too good. but 3 ults instead of 2 is a huge diff tbh
No, only shards
Hrmmm I gotta trade GA for dlt then
And see how that works
ohh, that sounds gut, will make chika ppc way less maldy 
As in you dont own the other characters?
Pretty sure someone said you can 3 ults without dlt before
You can
wow ok i remember how bad
But only once every like 2 rots
yes, i returned after a long break
also if you need to swap in HY for finisher, getting to u1 is faster/more dmg now i think
Because you only have enough spare orbs one time every few rots
Spectre and Dirge are free
100% so no bitching
Woah
It's like 3 ult 2 ult 2 ult repeat
Censor bypass
Wow
bitching
Void
Ban Fabio
Mod ples ban
no need to censor bypass
Im scared of him
With Nuke the score diff is always insane
Yea i didnt bypass nun
Bot dead
noice, even less maldy 
😭
u mean through this shop here? i dont really get how i get the currency tho
Big diff but not that big like 10m smh
Service mission
always aim for like 2m under guide makers

Weekly missions
And it resets weekly
Luna SS3 > Spectre SS3 > Dirge SS3 > Spectre SSS > Dirge SSS > Luna SSS
Assuming those are the only characters you are aiming to get SSS for
Wdym guide markers
Oh
Makers
Dum

gacha reading issue
JJK
Jujutsu kaisen?
Jujutsu?
that depends on who we talk about
if we talk me vs nude with same team, I will do half his score 
Yo aimo
JJK reading comprehension devil

eh just nuke as far as I see
Hrmmm
but like whats the difference in invest
3 ults every rot it is then
What are the other 2 zones this week
you were only doing 2?
No difference in unit invest only differencein reso
Dark and void
That explains everything
2ult 2 3 repeat
Of course its void again
3 ults every 3rd rot
you were just straight up doing fewer rotations with the strongest guy on the team
alr thanks
i'll do that

Void is entropy zone? What's the other zone
You built kamui yet?
Equip field
Yeah Vera not do enough damage to warrant equal time
Figured that out hard way
indeed
Wats kamui rot
Mf I’m doing a lab report
ok if i can guarentee kamui should i use 5 pulls to get rosetta 👀
Plz i new
Alt F4
man I gotta learn how to do the fancy vera block tech

Lightning/void
It's not fancy at all
if only 5 pulls then yeah obv
Stop trolling plz im asking for real
because the main problem was that i wouldn't be able to gaurentee kamnui right
It's borderline braindead especially with mouse
the timings are tricky
If your're missing stuff like Wanshi, Lilith, or Epitaph SSS though, that changes the picture though, I just madea a priority list based off of only those three
No no believe me
Fck nvm
It's basically auto timed
idk typed but nuke vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGOgYkDeG-I
#punishinggrayraven #thedyingsun #Aeternion #legendwarzone #firewarzone #pgrgameplay #pgrwarzone #vera #wata #lucia?
Wth is block tech
like i have 50 or more chapters of story, and haven't even started weeklies
Trust me on this
Well you see alpha is also right around the corner

dodge canceling her hold ba
i mean its only 5 pulls..
It really is borderline auto timed
and ive barely scratched the roguelites
And you don't lose sig energy by messing it up
Dodge tech then smh
So it's extremely low risk
She blocks tho
oh okay, i do have them but i dont think at SSS, is that necessary?
Brother just stop your gambling addiction for once
shut up dude you'renot gonna get validation here for your non meta choices
Just be patient
Cottie?
5 pulls to guarantee rosetta?
i have anni selector
he's spending bc on blue banner
Just release the basic when you saw her passive went down, dodge, and hold it again, repeat until you're done
5 pulls of bc on base
she blocks wut? 
and this will bring you to pity?
yes
This. Start with Vera and blue orb makes this process extremely fluid
only other optoin is waiting 5 weeks
honestly not a terrible idea but also why not wait a lil
Oh wait, u don't block when dodging hold ba

happy now
It just looks fast but the inputs are incredibly slow and autotimed
I see
Wait
what build does kamui run
Yes bro
see the video posted above
yeah no, this is all i can do, idk what i could do to get more

Skin tissue
What is this ancient ahh tech
for SS0 kamui
You don't release the hold
Bruh
It's not technically necessary, but they are good to have, although getting all those vouchers is really hard even with money cause of how limited of a resource they are, you might have to put off certain older projects like the ones I mentioned in favor of keeping up with the newer stuff to get more value out of them before they get replaced in the meta
why release basic? just hold it 
mk
nice, SS3 Kamui?
does kamui need vera and wata?
Idk, thats what i did
But it works

I said it first 
highly recommended yes
Dodge immediately
I mean, it works, but can just keep holding too, easier
Bro is blind
Dodge when the passive went down
Immediately
Eh?
You suppose to hold ba all the time
Dodge 2x when red core passive depleted
only one thumb 🙁
.
You only Dodge twice in ult 2 form
Must have Vera
3rd team member depends on your invest, Epitaph is only BiS if Aeternion isn't SSS
streching left thumb over to tap dodge always feels wonky
musth ave vera...
what if i don't have her
Use your pointer
left thumb...?
Solo Kamui 8 cottie
Just watch the animation or core passive. Every time it knocks down 1 time click dodge

what the hell is your dodge key
Hmmm
for kamui
And then do the last attack fully
sorta
The spin
right to the left of basic key in bottom right
I think Kamui can solo? Not sure tho
And then ult
mk
you kind of have to figure it out a bit on your own though
Not anymore, you gotta rot
Well there's ur answer then, ur cooked
whats a pretty fast way to get pulls besides weeklies?
the last time i did a roguelite it was 1 hour of gameplay for 1 pull

if you hold yellow just a bit (not enough to fully charge) then let go and hold ba you should get enough to ult
assuming youre using cottie
For anybody wondering about Vera I'm pretty sure there's like 59 videos that show the keyboard clicks on screen
try spamming that
fuh
it won't be amazing but it will probably get you a decent enough score
Story, if u skip thru it
You can get Tundra done relatively quickly
1 hr for 1 pull that isnt a time gate is great tbh
might as well
what else is there to do

Thanks to info from Sauciest Banana turns out u can just reverse time in two stages, don't even touch stage 2 boss and just abandon run once u clear whole board resulting in easy and quick 4 levels per run.
dude i could do so much
in 1 hour
@elfin mango
i tried doing it
ok great is an exaggeration
but the map was different
but its decent
so i didn't know what to do
It doesn't have to be the same map
yeah, that makes sense i guess, i'll keep the vouchers for now and unlock the new units then :3
thank you again, im not so confused anymore
Bro does not know how to improvise
thinking...not capable of that here
It's not even about improvise, just click random sht, then reset

For Kamui's mem resos, I'm thinking that bottom ult if 3s Wata is on the team. IDK about class skill until we get another attacker
understanding wuts happening on this video was too much for me remaining 2 brencells, so I just unga bunga it instead 
There's even more braindead one
https://youtu.be/YmzejhM1zfI
the people in meta help will jump you at any sign of weakness
be warned
Albeit not as efficient
dude
i don'teven think
It's really not as hard as it looks

You just have to clear as many squares as possible, then reset w hourglass when you're out of moves
ban the pilots! 
Wtf @worthy widget how much did you get paid for that

If anyone pays me I can do their desperado clash for them
Only $20
What
His ass is lying
I ain’t doing his fkng rouge
30 
60 to guarantee
30
huh
Until it becomes 60
That's early

Rates on the weapon banner are higher, it's much more volatile as to the character banners
Usually it's gonna be within the 20-30 range
kamui weap popped early for me now 
But guaranteeing a weapon is 60 pulls
And then i always got it at 30/30
huh yeah i swear i lost to some randoms weapon but i cant find it in inentor

i got an offrate...at 2
pakyu
K whel
K whel
almost free weap reso 

I got 3 characters in that pity range 
ya can't complain
how bad is rosetta without sig at early stages?
just curious for when i evenetually get her
Still useable
Still good
Surprisingly good
She's not as sig reliant cause she doesn't need DLT either
how gut is ss3 kamui? worth the
?
3s or bust
dude wtf
Omg its 123456789
Up to you tbh
Pretty worth it, but not mandatory for usage
Personally I would wait for now
2s is good enough
I have a feeling they're gonna pull some bull w Alpha
and shes true lim right
Yes
because my liv is SS0 👀
SS0 sucks
Liv is fine at SS0
Ss0 is enough

well
Tho her ss3 is really big
stealing the neighbor's net now, can roam on discord a bit 
she is far better than crimson weave but thats also about it
ngl i wish i went for vergil sig
Vergil is dead anyways
you still have his entire kit with 5s
He IS buns
Ded
he is buns no matter what you do
fair i guess
He's just less buns with his sig, but still dead
What happened to your own internet
and now dante is powercreeped too
yup
Donte last 1 patch
Dante's been crept for a while too
truly the state of PGR meta

who tf
though not for me since he is my only ignition character with sig

Veronica 
Na
Na
Mi
?
isn't she support
Nope :)
Collab character shouldnt last that long in the first place,
nothing, I'm just not home
some things happened and now I'm stuck at the middle of nowhere for a while 
SS3 sigless nanami

Theoretically, yes
In practice, she demolishes him at SS0 unless he's SSS
does kamui still want dlt at ss3? and how big of a bump is his ss3? does it change his mem build at all?
actual homeless invest
He doesnt even need dlt at ss0
Hey at least I have a vera sig now
lost 80/20

I did
which is why the vera sig wasnt by choice
it was forced onto me by kamu weapon banner
I feel like the only reason I was able to afford so many weapons as a F2P is because I got so fcking lucky in general
True vera hater would feed it as reso
I'm a Vera Hater, not a Braincell Hater

same same
so is there any temporary memories i can use for kamui?
Fair enough, i guess you're not willde
Just wait for now
4shakespeare 2 cottie 2 darwin(harmony) then
borrow 4shakes2cott2dar from others
Only if you have spare resources
thank you kings and queens
just borrow lol
i won't hypertune em just reso
just build, it's for ppc anyway 
I guess my burn team exists?
Nanami Vero Donut
All hab sig
I’ve never played it though
Do you even play
Yup
get him
Problem is my account brcked asf
problem solved then

Well
Im pretty sure u have 3s wata?
nu uh, I like his gameplay after horse
paking horse using the dmcring orb system made me crash out for a while 
Bricked as in I have everyone I just never logged on myself since Teddy

Does wata kill nanami
If below 3s nana yeh
Live Bera reaction to memory set
Donte wata vero team
What rank is ur Dante
Nana ss0
8 cottie when
Ur team
Ss3
10 piece cottie
Veronica over Dante
Both
Turns your character into Ish for triple Ish team
Vero nana wata???
Donte wata vero
Yes

what happens if ishmael is in a team with ishmael 
Donut ded
do they become amplifier and breaker seperately or classless
I wonder how Kamui does in ignition
eos 
Double classless
Not
Just thinking
Game dies
I demand a refund for my bonca
Gave a dumb collection item
thanks for awarrd everyone, here's nothing
really, that mail made me think it's at least 2500
in there
but instead we got... 
Praying to god Kamui scores higher than Radiance in ion zone
Just stay kiwi and dont mind it
Im not

The one time I quit and didn't return to PGR (this time)
Pgr is a drug
he playing 5 other gachas instead of pgr now 
Hi3
Isnt grass is blue

Wth, is there even anything else in there now
Gacha games r a drug
Yes
It what sense
so like should i get nanami or rosetta or kamui sig first
Kamui
Me return for 15m fire score
Kamui
mk
Come back to endfield already
Missing out on free monthly pass
Anything interesting in there
lowk forgot about that
Because p2 is just a mistake

Tbh I still couldn't tell you why I decided to come back
Check ur request
Should have gotten someone to pilot smh
You missed thousands of oreos

Where storage
I came back about a month ago now
I just made the Hetonite comp
I was piloting his ass
God it took me hours
I've been having fun but I really doubt that's gonna last
You pilot Endfield???
Do you like p2
I don't care too much for the story

if i redownlaoded tmrw
The combat system is interesting
Then yeah it wont last long
I hate it that they make p2 changed everything
Starting from story, gacha, and their equipment
Wdym
Oh from pass?
Well daily mission gives 200 oreos, sanity booster
Monthly pass gives 200 oreos, sanity booster, and sanity usage tix
So, if not play today miss 400 oreos. Not to mention daily credit shop for free oreos and arsenal tix
About half a pull id say
Not much there’s only two story chapter arc out for new
also there’s new novice event that give a ton of leveling resources
Story presentation had gone to sht for a while before P2
Gacha is actually better now tbh
And now it when shttier
Should've stay with stage based system, not open world
Vera on 4 Shakespeare 2 cottie 2 guin OR 4 Guin 2 Cottie 2 Eins?
I'm using the first one.
They've been doing OW for years tho
Not in the main story tho, its starting from Colosten
Which chapter are you talking about
26-28
Pretty much so, 25 was the last chapter that has good presentation imo
Not including story itself
HoF story was my favorite
Isnt 25 is HoF's?
It was like tiny ass small sections
Or was it 24
It wasnt the semi open world like Kolosten
It still functioned like the regular story did
I forgot if its Nyx or HoF
25 is HFS
Then yeah, 25 is what i liked
I didnt like Kolosten but the story itself was alright so it was passable
I mean, storywise its decent i guess
Not the presentation tho

I liked it but it was a LOT to have to take in
So much info thrown at you to process
Finality was just bad
Finality is just, too much to take
And its a mistake, her story shouldn't have been ended there
The point of 1.5 is just to intorduce Sa and Vita and some other jargain to set up the Mars timeline
Starting to get sick of Open world based story
But hey, at least now Seele and Veliona have 2 separate bodies
About that
Thats what i just care from that story
We don't actually know where Veliona is right now
P2 related stories?
Yeeah, idrc about p2 tbh
Moreso she's never been mentioned so we know nothing of her whereabouts
So it's assumed she's just chilling for now in Seele's body
I gave it a try for a while, but its still annoying compared to p1
I quitted in vita's patch in the end
Tbf tho the OW is pretty small, you dont actually have to do much
It's kinda like a smaller version of HSR open world
And thats the problem
I dont expect Hsr ow in hi
The earlier patches you had to do more to fully explore the map
But the devs saw people didn't like it so they scaled it down in the recent patches
A bit late innit
You technically still have to explore but it's FAR quicker to do
Should've just went to Apho 3 instead

P2 is supposed to be setting up the events to APHO
We're never getting any relation to that anytime sooner
The buildup takes so long and too much yapfest wtf
APCBC
We dunno
But it is in fact gonna take a long ass time
Especially since after last CNY they made patches longer
H3rd is alive?
Barely
Yeah
About, yes
Usually it's 8 weeks, but some patches have been 10 weeks
I bet its easier to retain Nirvana and Myriad now
"When hoyo cared" or something idk I don't play the game
The opposite
I've heard its quite the opposite
F2p are in agony 3 now

What, i thought the team comp is easier now since you can just own some p2 and go random bullsht
They dont use the full ele team comp anymore anyways
In Nirv, it's BiS or bust

Nirv never was F2P friendly tho so it's whatever
F2p used to populate red lotus
I guess not then, tho i can still retent some nirvana as f2p back then
F2Ps still populate RL
Except if its physical
Hi guys, have we finalized the build for kamui?
Bro these players are balls

Not yet, its only 1 day
We have a good idea, but we aren't 100% sure yet
Its STC based on your invest
Next next week


🥝
The factory must grow
Sea is mostly full of sweaters
Even RL is hard to get top 2 sometimes
Depends on the bracket
Not sure if that applies to current hi
And the boss
And whether u have the dps for the weather
Im in the backfoot since this cycle it's an IMG weather

And I have zero IMG to be found
I hate img mechanic

image hating 
Wait till u see SD mechanics
Eh its not so bad, Even griseo can do as a dps back then
CE was actual trash
Early bleed sucks anyways, until Luna came
Susannah was strong for the time she was meta
CE was only occasionally better than Eden
That lightning buffer Eden?
Yes
Yes

Technically, Eden never got replaced until this patch
Wtf is img weather
Imaginary
Wat
The HoD enemies
O
Its another dmg type tied to the imaginary tree
Why u talking hi3
Because it came up
Iirc got introduced in Palatinus Equinox patch?

Oh, HoD actually
No, before
Since 4.8 iirc
But we didn't get an IMG character until 5.2, Raven
Stardust
Aight
The way weathers work in Hi3 now is that there's a lot less shilling for the new characters, it's much more balanced out and random
But a lot of the times, the character has such specific mechanics and attributes that not having the intended dps option is basically a death sentence to ur bracket placement during that cycle

This is true of the new Mei this patch
Like that Aponia weather that only worked on her
who does kamui replace in fire content if watanabe and lucia are both ss but wata doesn't have a sig? does kamui replace wata here?
She has a passive that allows her Combo ATK to insta execute BIO mobs
Yeah
U would use Kamui, Vera, and a second amp
Unless Wata is SSS, he's out of fire team
Oh, so they implemented IMG mechanic to other type as well?
Amazing

Not exactly?
Moreso just gave execute features to other characters
Like, insta execute if the Hp is lower below certain hp threshold
Or its just straight up execute regardless
How about plasma beam content? If nanami is ss3 with sig, will it be better to swap lucia with kamui? or just replace nanami with kamui? my kamui is ss right now 💔
Execute regardless
Wtf is that bs
That we don't know
New Mei is kind of stupid

Yeah i can see now why its sht
Bruh
Post Otto hi3 is kinda all over the place imo lol
Use her or bust
Sparkle also has an execute feature
Otto was really HI3 MVP

Bro held everything together
If a QUA enemy has one HP bar left, normal weapon active executes the enemy

Speaking of, what became of void archives? 
You need to meet a certain threshold to execute, but it'a OP in a different way cause you can do it against bosses too
They really make the weather extremely unfriendly to other valks
Holy

It works at bosses
Guess i should've expected much from Hoyo
Otto trades Void Archives to Kevin for the Genius Device
In APHO 2 it helps the Sky People come to Earth
Sort of like uniframes 

It's not very clear what happens between then
So they didnt touch it in P2
Yet
Idk if they ever will
Theres another 5 years of content until it happens


Me being Rita simp left me really disappointed with how they treat secondary characters

I like playing new Rita tbh
No
She's whatever
So far i've only liked FR
But i do find her nostalgic, she was my first S-rank
Out of all her frames
AKA is fun
AKA is fun indeed
Anyway are they still doing herrschers? I always liked those...
AKA was fun, need SS3 tho
Honkai is gone


That aspd buff
Hi3 is gone oh my days
I mean Honkai is sealed away by Kiana after Finality Arc
So what's even the big looming threat
Wtf is vita doing, its always her and her all the time ever since 1.5
Based on APHO, its whatever is guiding the sky people
Vita is just a transformer
Decepticons, rise!
Although Vita is less of a Herrscher-equivalent being and more like a created offshoot of the Cocoon-equivalent (Sa)
But Herrschers are done
Seele was the last herrscher then
We shouldn't get anymore unless they pull some shenanigans in the Sea of Quanta
Dont care anymore tbh
Its been disappointing for a long time now

SW gets a new Divine Key
And there's a new Astral Operator
But there's no actual new valk
Wtf is astral operator
The off-field supports for the P2 combat system
When you enter the white heat mode thing
O oke
No
The astral ring mechanic
When you go into the special burst mode
Oh i just noticed its similar to white heat
And it lasts for a certain amount of time
Still no
That's what it's based off of
The special red button
Sigh
I barely played apho
The gameplay is nigh identical to when seelee got her moon arc
Which was what made me kiwi
Yea i def dont remember seeing that
You havent tried APho 2 i guess
Did APHO1 not have this
Idk
It didn't
Oh
Anyways
no
P2 characters basically has that system
Astral operator is basically like the 'ELF" you use for P2 characters that gives you different buffs
Tho you can use ELFs as Astral Operators
Tho obv they're much worse
I remember when seluna elegy was the meta elf
Even for non ice
:worryold:
godly, when was it i forgot
2018?
i think i was there when AE is still the Meta for all the team
2019
I have AE's wedding coating and I have no regrets
Real

Omg real 😭
Ngl
Was it her that got an augment too
I started on SW patch
No that's the other Hua
I just spammed BBA
At least Hi3rd Crit malding was MILD compared to pre leap lumi lmfao
Yes she was
Oh she is op
Her combo was fun asf
Fu gua valks in general has unique combo
Every Fuhua variant is fun tbh, for me at least
Real shi
AE is a bit simple tho
Oh yeh
I never played FoV
Fuhua best valk
Hold ba locks her combo
you just need Mixed combo for gather and sp, then white combo
My daughter still the best 
Shiiii, I still remember lmfao
Whats fov again
Same colour ele buff
Diff colour gather and energy
And somehow people didnt realize that you can make her ult faster with the 4th basic tech
Then we got Senti bonking everything in sight
The new phoenix Fu Hua
Not the old Phoenix

wait, i think its any other basic seq but 4th
Man fu hua just banger all around
Fenghuang of Vicisstitude
or 3rd whatever
Senti?
Thinking about it again
Kamui is pretty much exactly the same style as Himeko
Oh, the garuda one
Ye
Dodging before using mixed atk makes the animation faster too
the only diff is that Kamui actually got new valk
Me neither, she's in weird spot pre p2 after all
-# runfast
BIO characters arent discriminated against anymore
Id get her for the sake of fu hua
But i kiwi so
Mihoyo was pretty generous back then in hi3 time tbh

Spending event was like blessings for f2ps
And the birth of AKT cosu

She was brick because she had the special SW type banner, as was also right before P2
Not necessarily because her typing or element was weird
I'll never forget my daughters
I'll never forget luna as my wife
Lilya and Rozalya?

