#📨・meta-help
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Did you use your blue ticket alr
So what do I uh
Roach sig as wep reso
yeahh for sss ishmael

yeah
Plume
Wait what
yo 200 dollars
How did i type two sticker at ocne
yeah
What sig
sometimes more if i want
yeah
alright who got build
i pull coatings
do you just spend rc to bc instead of packs?
AAUAHEH I WISH I HAD NIER CHARACTERS 💔
me too but I got almost everyone SSS from head to toe
Ye
no never
Whelthan got that S+ fast
I think you can manage if you only do 2 ults tho
You didn't hear that from me tho
🤫
errrr do you get earlies or something
407 pulls
never punished
sometimes 
shakes cottie boss
for selena and vero I got 30/60 twice
i always pull cubs too if yall don’t do that
ahh then ya
that's seperate
alr tested, darwin at < ss3
yea but i convert bc to cub tickets
why not
Last time I got an early pull was veronica and daren
you get enough to pull a cub from bp
cubs are pretty damn good sometimes
have kuro just given up on sig sets atp
mmmm
They really don't care about them anymore
i pulled a few cub copies for bianca crep
og is still op
since she’s my fav
sigs are eye marbles
it costs 20 pulls to get a cub, you get the rest from norman
you can SS cubs with the crystals from norman
yeah but
if you want
i joined like half way through sync patches
sooo
i’ve just been playing catchup
on weapons and cubs
and ss3’s and all
oof you definitely don't want to catch up on cubs
again with the 70%
or 80% doesn't matter
Only now have I just realized I can swap weapon resos for free 🥀
i mean i feel like it’s been worth it
i’m both a meta and just personal taste puller
I need to rewire some of my teams
70% is not worth it in any universe
but if you are comparing to wuwa
and other genshit type games
then definitely
i mean
kamui cub worth pulling?
pgr also has a very very high bar

my ass
you just see how greedy companies exist
and pgr is one of those less greedy
compared to other gachas
it’s one of the best
yeah
ofc
yes i know hoyo is super greedy and so is wuwa
ohhh weellll
We reverted back.
Bring back sig memories that were basically an extra passive!
pgr is slightly above the bare minimum in terms of bar
of course, it's only for whel to get score wz n ppc
for a gacha game
WW catching strays for being greedy was not on my bingo
it’s very high
no that's exactly why it is where I said it is
mmm i mean 50/50 is a terrible system and i despise it
you play casually so it doesn't matter for you
i still love the game but
and you spend
i expect better from kuro
but f2p can barely function in this game
Atp any game where they can't get all characters as a f2p is greedy lmao 
True but PGR and WW should not even be in the same conversation as the hoyo games but PGR solos both anyways so that's a convo for another time
true
how much from ss3 to 3s ($)
Could never be pgr
function at all
the "better" is that pgr has selectors and choices
you don't pull 160 times for a guaranteed character
WW can be considered greedy but the hoyo games are genuinely 50000x worse and that's not even my bias speaking it's just how it is on paper
yeah😭
Thing is ww is far less greedy than hoyo games
to me i like wuwa a ton just for the coral shop
it's the same tf you mean 
Yeah
and being able to buy 2 copies for “free”
naw
it's called cope
you buy pulls straight from the tap and it's not cheap, you only buy enough for 1 character
let's not have this conversation here. Today.
Hoyo games have no weapon guarantee and no sequences in coral shop
still expensive asf yeah but
you just contradicted yourself 
huh?
you basically said genshin is better because you get more from less
We all know hoyo gacha = horrible let's not create drama for no reason
whar
Hoyo games also have less income per patch than wuwa
no i meant the other way
for wuwa to be where genshin is you need to pull 7 copies instead of 5
that's what you said
f2ps behave the same in both games, whaling is ass in both games
How did we even get from PGR whale talk to which gacha is greedier
but that's actually the other way around 
Yo boys which set is better for him , his sig or Shakespeare?
i’m saying wuwa is better because you spend the same for more copies
He meant you get a c4 in genshin in the same price you get a S6 in wuwa
spending more is better??

it's day 1 bro
wait a bit
ching chong haven't even decided
Shakes
not what you said
What?
4 shakes 2 cot 2 darwin
His sig doesn't contribute much tho
you just said s6 in wuwa is better than c4 in genshit
no
class or sig for kamui
Definitely sig
class future proof
sig good atm
Hrmmmm Vera Kamui dual dps? Shakes even at high invest?
also you know what i mean is obviously that wuwa is better than genshin so what’re you fighting
wuwa better open world RPG than genshin yes
but the spending and pulling is ass in both
In ss3 pyroach ss geira and ss wata team, wata gets replaced by ss aeternion right?
no pyro does
😭
What?
Okay
We know. "We" know
yea i thought that everyone had sss wata already
Holy damage
half of us werent either
yea, but you can get wata if you pay just a little with vouchers
you're comparing eggs and eggs
From the looks of it, yep
Wata is the emotional support
Some say that Vera can hold guin for support
and both are the same 
I have done no story and no roguelikes
they aren’t tho

you pull 2 copies less in wuwa

fossil
spending in both is bad but at least there is a coral shop in wuwa
it does make a pretty significant difference
you're talking about whaling
just came here and sees u
and you have 50/50s
average person doesn't even buy anything
nyah
yeah
Been here day 1 so I'm actually just dust atp
?
that's for both
We are comparing it to genshin
Pgr's gacha is incomparable
Literally

nothing can compare to pgr
yayaya

If PGR is the baseline. WW is like 10 places under and the hoyo games are about 100000 places under. That's basically it
wuwa only "good" because for the past 2 years they started opening their brain
1.0 was ass
.... yeah it's good now
mhm
....
Can't be good at launch
why this layout
love wuwa
I'd argue it's still bad in terms of how much time it takes up from you weekly and daily
can’t wait for next patch
This is lwk drama farming
What?
dont we love it 
wdym

Dailies take 5 mins

@pliant forum check dm
spending your stamina?
coulda done 4 6 cottie instead of L shape shakes
ehhh it comes to a point where, if you’re complaining about how much you have to actually PLAY the game why keep playing
Yes
never play a gacha if it feels like a chore
ogayy
oh my 2pc is always on 1-2 or 5-6
I'm not playing a game if I have to do chores
and that's most gachas
so keep the chores to a minimum and we gucci
understandable
no
Lwk pissing me off cuz I want memory sigs to matter
maybe as a day 1 player or someone with s6 r6 characters
ew, wheres 2-3
if you are trying to start it takes about 30-60 seconds per wave
Wuwa dailies are 5 mins
FoTG (7 days refresh) is 15 mins
Biweeklies
ToA takes an hour
WhiWa takes 45 mins
and that's just the stamina!
then weekly
then event
weekly is a good 20-30 minutes
event is variable
What's Kamui's fire build 
if you think of them as chores you’re cooked to begin with
SS3 and everything
4 shake 2 cot 2 darwin harmo
what else is it? you like doing the same thing over and over again just to get 1 character? 
you are literally "putting in the work"
ss3 can play without cot me thinks so idk
not playing
i like doing my dailies and weeklies in both pgr and wuwa yes
My max investment in characters is s1r1 for 3 chars only, my dailies only take 5 mins no matter what I do
crazy work
I am day 1
that i enjoy the game i spend my time and money on?!?!?

😭😭
what did I say
mb i like playing the game i have a whole closet of cosplays from
you aren't enjoying the game when you are doing a daily and weekly task
You have to start somewhere my guy
you’re not hearing me tho
i literally
btw ||nephis mentioned||
enjoy
stockholm syndrome
Me too man
Breaker's sig memory so far only offers damage increase and nothing else
Seems like it's gonna be this way going forward
doing it
you're either getting slapped around or not even playing long enough to fight something
i enjoy all of my weeklies and dailies
WOAH SHADOW SLAVE READER??
In terms of time taken wuwa is still a lot better than endfield and genshin
Real
You won't be able to survive endfield at all
endfield?
Same, only character I have S1 is Iuno
kinda paused after she met sunny in his castle
you literally automate any grind the game has
around 1800s?
i couldn’t enjoy it much tbh
looks cool tho
bro almost blends in
Grindy af for all that setup
would anyone be able to help with what kamui's upper resonance could be, the usual atk or anything else? 
endfield is worse for the fact how much it takes to get a character
been letting chaps stack for a while
you literally just push story
Usual atk and ult
there are templates to build if you are too dumb
ty ty
Have you actually played to do dailies in endfield?
you run around once on the map to place some drills and set up tethers
And character upgrades take too much
chill with DF
endfield is bad because of the pacing, character conversations, and combat
not because of exploration or grind
that doesn't even exist because the auto farm goes on even when you are offline
gays
unless you minmax then you need to spend 1 minute changing batteries
endfield is bad cause it can improve

batteries

?
i wanna catch up, but dropping again feels bad
owww ya
you totally should thoooo
it’s peak
wuling to valley iv batteries to make enough to spend on the points
Endfield was too hectic for me overall
I'm not following you
what batteries?
I don't like the factory
||d1 cassie hater||
i dont want to hear anything good
production energy
I went into the 3rd area which was a quarry

power is given
😭 💢
Wtf
200 power is default, my factory needed 4.9k
you basically fuel a machine to get more power
i just don’t like the entire factory side of the game and find the combat and char designs mediocre other than laevatian
I enjoy the game Hella what?
😭
Does he know that batteries are needed as you progress in the game for more power

so you are talking about power capacity
OH NAHHHHHH
YOUUU
INKNOW WHAT YOU SRE
enfield is bad cuz of baddies
yea probably
miya dalao 
it sucks
Sorry I really enjoy logging into wuwa daily

roblox factory games made by 13 year olds have better factory
there are better ways to spend your time but to each their own
dailies in pgr be like : do dorm comissions,fortune wheel from guild,1 serum pack from top-up,use serums in sim. battlefield, that's all
combat was bad too
1 minute daily
i already quit
Just 10 mins at max if there's nothing to do lol, not a time waste at all
ye
should be a gold standard
lowk, dailies dont even take over 3mins in pgr
i timed it once

i usually run warzone everyday, or work on pain cage and other stuff
Dailies legit take 30 seconds
too much time, could fall asleep
I don't even think that's an exaggeration
i do dailies while doing dishes at work
not needed for dailies
LMAO
oh, all stuff including dorm and collecting all the cogs form guild

I was only keeping up with allat hectic stuff cause of fangyi but the game had me quitting the moment they introduced the sc wuling battery formula 🙏, I gave up in tangtang banner
yayayaya ik
Now I don't even want fangyi anymore
"slow" 40 seconds brother
yea ppc and wz at weekends
oh well
too much time, should be 1 click
Talk to your construct
exactly 💔

don’t care for the game anymore
you have the guild thing closer you cut on 1 sec of time cheater
All hoyo games suck ass
every hoyo type game
includes wuwa 
WW peak tho
peak cutscenes you mean
and exploration maybe
that's about it
combat mid
can't use a character you pulled because you are in chapter 1 
dont include wuwa among hoyo games, its ass, but its our ass
cinematics
not necessary for 100 points but ye why not

Play the game...
?
I did
Does not take that long to catch up
but why am I being told when I should be playing the story?
wuwa lets you skip like
I can't decide my own time?
and not replay them 
very good feature for a story game
just click 3 times so 'quick tap' touch event
If they're all just cutscenes then rewatch on youtube
so then why complain abt being behind
have you heard of "experiencing for yourself"?
if you wanna catch up
Doesn't count 
it does, i've done it all the time
you should be able to catch up at your own pace
So you don't like the experience then
Know what you like and dislike
i mean only after you press on interact
Instead of blaming everything else
you are, nothing is forcing you to do everything immediately
the character upgrades are 
Anyone have current best sss rots for kamu/vera/lucia team
Myf you can't instantly be lvl 80

"oh you wanna play your favorite character? too bad, go play 5 chapters"
character upgrades aren’t needed for story content tho
PGR has this too btw
80 was pretty quick during sync
you can just not with a character you pulled from chapter 6000
you need to play all 6000 chapters first
peak design 
Makes 0 sense
exactly
Idk man you're kinda biased here
I am making perfect sense, everything is conclusive
you just don't accept what I'm saying
and why would i do sum like that
it's really that simple
you pull character from chapter 15
you must FINISH chapter 15 to start upgrading character even if you are in chapter 5
uhm
oh yeah, i heard that you cant get upgrade mats unless you do that new area
in wuwa

thats bad tbf
glad we on the same page
kamui tutorial having you use lucia just to activate kamui qte is crazy
they really hate her
yup
I couldn't upgrade my Qiuyuan until I went to the new area Septimont
I was still in Rinascita
hi quick question for A Rank Selector / Vera or Watanabi? or any other suggestion?
doesnt matter
this is good
if you mean the A-ranks, feel free to pick anyone you like
hey i dont play wuwa, its my friend who was annoyed and ranted to me during qiuyuan patch
No you
Pick whoever you like

Right thankyou! 
you were already talking about me 
As someone who has sig hypertuned decryptor, choose her
I feel them
read the story or perish
It's a game. A complete actual game first gacha second is fine if you don't like it but you need to realize the actual reason you don't like it is because you're addicted to grindfest games
i have sig teneb
i should hypertune him
hypertuned which set
real
I forgot
love her sm
Let me see
Please😭
i also have teddy 
tf are you talking about? if I was addicted to grindfest I'd go back to warframe, and even warframe is not idiotic enough to lock character progression behind story progression
Gng my pgr is stuck at loading after updating what do I do
if it's sum good just change to diff char and reso
hypertune stays
Former warframe player too yeah wrap it up
yeah so you can attest to what I just said
i find warfarme much more annoying to play than any gacha
i prefer the time i played 8 gacha games at the same time than go back to maining warframe
😭😭
I know what you are
you just don't like games that require more than 3 buttons to press 
or the story
Myf We got an elitist here please tell me the games you play so you can tell me how much skill they take to play
Yow
It's a dps set 
actually no, my fav games are the ones with the hardest combat possible lol, i recently finished dmc5 and i started ninja gaiden and nioh 3

would be useful for bonca if you didn't already have
easy difficulty is there in all games

yes that’s how games usually work
easy difficulty is in everything
I'm good You were pretty fun tho
you started accusing me of not making sense when I clearly explained my stance on wuwa and how the character progression is flawed
can we all just say that locking character progression behind story progression is bad, and call it a day
I think I got Rossetta
should I try to pull her sig?
But he hasn't run out of arguments yet
i see no point in talking further
doesnt grnshin also do that
So we gotta wait until he gets bored

and you from quips 
Don't yall ever get tired of this
People are against this? 
Pretty good ones imo
hey, wuwa > genshit
I hypertuned her on her debut so uh 
ye
idk im confused too
Usually yes. Ts is annoying to deal with... but it also takes 0 effort
he knows
it is flawed, but i mean your main complaint is fixable
just
don't worry, if you place the memory on a diff character, then reso, the hypertune stays, just reso changes to new chars reso
Watching someone be objectively wrong but still try to drama farm can be fun if you put your mind to it
What if I'm really far behind 
not a fix, it's a work around
the costumer is bending the knee for the company's slop
it’s not too hard to sit down for 3-4 hours a month to do story
Why is this topic in meta
isnt that the problem
Ohhh really, i didn't know that

it is new patch now, where sss nirv build 
so is everything in this damn world get over it
waiting for either fatality or brutality
dv guin

he didnt know dark already almost 39mil?
I agree
but do I have to sit down every day for 3-4 hours to do so? no
Ask Citrom tbh we were talking about whale talk before all this
cottie's useful so you could use that for new characters that need it
I'm taking away your yuri and aemeath title
LMAOOO the blatant misinfo
should be like pgr where i dont even touch story
Does rose have bath as a memory, I don't have her rn, will be useful once I get her
yeah? exactly
bro started the wuwa conversation with whaling
Yes she uses bathlon
You're gonna be ok
that's it?
WHAT WHY😭
I see
thats it
sorry I might had ask too much questions 

You know what you did, fellow Aemeath lover
That's vile bro
yea so you can use bathlon on rosetta and just need to worry for rolling resos
what did i do…
this channel is for helping gng
not for fighting like now
Mid take
You two can kiss already
Kamui replace who in fire team?
We don't mind
If you say so
Thanks, I always thought once a memory is hypertuned for a char it can't be used on others anymore
let me guess
are you a f2p?
this was the banner for her sig right? 
I'm ready
for what huh😭 you replied toooo me saying how long story takes?
Depending on the invest, it could be roach or wata
Lucia ♥️
a better question why u talk here, go to off topic or smth
Wata or pyroach depending on your investment
I just started today. a newbie and an f2p I guess.
idk im bored and ive been talking here for a while
it's alright i also thought that, and also if you have SS3 rosetta, cottie from teddy comes to rosetta as well
pull kamui
"Been in meta help for too long" syndrome
I dont get it what build to replace wata?
the new kamui?
Don't think I can go that far but I am a fate puller so who knows
yes
yeah so fair disclaimer
you are in #📨・meta-help
we answer according to meta standards. so with that being said, it's generally not recommended to pull sigs straight away, and rosetta is one who can function without the sig (albeit she does benefit from it greatly)
I'm caught up with story now but new players who pulled for 3.x characters would have nightmares trying to catch up just to get mats
KAMUI FINALLY (i dont have a fire team except Vera but.... FINALLY)
Does it ngl
Wait this is meta room
thank you for understanding 
oh yeah ik, i’m not arguing that it’s not an annoying issue, it’s just that the other guy was over blowing it
I see , so even with 5 star weap she does the job?
RAHHHHH WHERE'S TJE KAMUI BUILDS
yes as a new player it sucks
cottie is exclusive to SS3, so if it's SS0 or SSS then it isn't asuseful
yes 
But you can start directly from 3.0 story 
new player will still have problem 
Thankyou for the heads up 
yes i’m agreeing with you bro
the player is fixing the problem for themselves, not for other players down the line
so yes per individual you can say that, but it's not a good design

Doesn't takeaway the things wuwa made me feel
No

yeah knew it
I barely have problems with wuwa 
I see
wuwa bad
just read pgr chapter 30-33 and you'll be fine from ww
pls dont tell me that shakes kamui is the way
I guess you'd be disappointed
how do i double rot kamui 
not again
😭
its heisen and ice shred set all over again

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KURO CAN WE MAKE SIG SETS THAT WORK ON THEIR INTENDED CHARS
With SS3 does Kamui need Cottie
😭😭
Pgr lowk getting EOSed before I reach there 
cooked
something something ping something something dodge
something something ult
something something hold attack something something ult
Meta
i wish so too
Hold yellow
On 2nd rot
WHAT IS THIS PEAK
10/10 game
make him do yoga
No flaws
.......
YO WHO CALLS WUWA BAD
Rough on the outside, soft feet on the inside
hold on,i have videos too
Man
can we see vergil in that one robert downey jr pose
Calm

Oh god
zani singlehandedly saving wuwa
love zani

mmm
this animation is insane she comes close, pretends like shes about to kiss u, ducks, kisses ur arm then goes around ur back and kisses ur other arm before kissing u
i can lowkenuinely feel my soul being sucked out of me seeing this couple activity
Ok
That one TOA...
s6r5 into s6r1 is going to kill me too
LAWD
WHO IS DOING THIS
for every single banner
what did i watch
6x3
WHERE DID THESE COME FROM

peak
am i cookies
Which awaking orb should i choose ?
no
some guys who i respect
for whom?
18?
Ye
Kamui?
why 18 copies?
Ye

Ty
s3r1 hiyuki
2 more copies of mornye
2 more copies of iuno
s3r1 denia
2 copies of chisa
3 copies of phrolova

why? dont we get enough?
ah wuwa
Phrovvy f20 unfriendly

mhmm
I had to rebuild nvidia
3 times
why?
god bless i already have s6 chisa and iuno
Because every other week
Someone had a different build
And also
Wata
I had to rebuild wata
To work on void
Cuz my ish is only SS0
Same
So I'm a LITTLE poor rn
What is onetap
with borrowed mems
just hit once and call it a week
HT da vinci guin next time, can't go wrong with that 
or just HT next year
11 am and haven’t slept hmmmm
There was a point where I harmo'd sig
finally got to my pc
curse full time jobs without hybrid options
It was that bad
?
how's the front end 
isnt harmo necessary anyways
I had my memories in the wrong slots
if you can yeah
Yeah it was just super weird to see a sig in the harmony slot
but unlike everything else you get an abundance of harmo
front and back ends are both a mess
100% sure that no dev can actually write good code, we all just gaslight ourselves with bs like architecture and code paradigms
make norman difficult again
Please

what
I thought you were developing a bot
or site idk
norman's been dead ever since gen 3
ah that, shouldve asked me about pgr helper not my actual life then lol

sorry
powercreep is that high
powercreep is hyper massive
i cleared norman with gen 2 when i returned

yeah i got physical team data, need other teams builds to finally start working on backend
Do we have memory build for kamui yet?
my condolences in your work space
norman been ez since gen2 lol
do you need help?
with an SS Bianca, is it better to run double amp for dark team?
i just slept tomorrow cause i was too freakin tired
ss bianca is byebye
Shakes cottie harmo uh
yes, if you can tell me all the meta builds for all teams at different invests
3s tank if you have it
I forgot the name
I can try
The 3 orb ping buffer
how u slept tomorrow
Darwin
@orchid owl ss0 kamui build rn rn
went to bed, remembered i m going to die alone, closed my eyes, woke up today
4 shakes 4 cottie or something idk
doesnt vera use 4 shakespeare 4 cottie too
2 cot 2 darwin harmo
u mean yesterday??
4 shakes 2 cot 2 darwin
prepare for trouble, make it double
he pings that much?
He does
best advice to fall asleep quickly is to cover your head with blanket and then put a pillow over your mouth and nose
that way you suffocate yourself to sleep really fast 👍
do i change vera build or is it the same
Darkflow build
4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie
but holup
if pyro on the team
bathlon and sig?
then vera needs 4 dv
4 guin 4 cot if hero
Ok so for Dark team you want SSSS10 Bianca with 6 piece President Hassen abd 2 piece Austrian Painter
SS45 Rosetta with 4 piece cottie and 2 piece Diesel harmonized with Pekka Rollins
And SSS Lilith with an amp set
Or enemy too tough
How is that?
bathlon is for liv 
4 guin 4 cot
You can use this if enemy is tanky
@orchid owl
sss wata
ss3 vera
ss0 kamui
tell me all of their builds 
You can try this
do i have to pull pyroath for aeternion?
No
No
so according to what the others said
4 alphonse 4 dv wata
4 guin 2 eins 2 cottie vera
4 shakes 2 darwin 2 cottie kamui
Please don't
yeah i didnt rlly want to anyway cause i dont like her playstyle 
wait how do I get 8 cost for memory? 
Wow you really can stay in here all day huh. There's a lot of different people that need help
i feel so sorry to know this person
whats the meta here, ss3 vera ,ss0 kamui, ss3 wata
What the
eh, awful net
wata needs to go

ss3 wata is dead
use pyro
not u, chill
my net is cracked

what about plasma

Can Bera use 4 Shakes 2 Cot 2 guin?
disliking the best gameplay in the entire gaem

||i mean mikasa||

probably not
Dark
No idea
you can try tho 
washed
scuffed hero run
S+ btw
I just know kamui uses 4 heisen 2 cot 2 darwin
No shot
what does ss0 pyro use then
No shot dark is washed
Useless
From 1 unit
why is bro design giving game mc vibes
whels don't know how to properly rot that's why
4 heraclitus 4 cottie
he is mc
someone just said ss3 wata is ded
he can be used
and who goes davinci?
yeah like not sure what you are gonna do with SS3 wata
barely doing something
i mean if he says
Rotation is quick enough
wata is ded
better off ele SSS tank 
who in my team g oes davinci
that's what I heard




