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Globlul all server had like -2mil last time 
Every one at 18.5 around
Ching chong going 20+


how it feels to be sweaty in this game even though im still convincing myself that im a casual:

@noble zinc last but not least dark, who should i use ?
What full inv
3 honse or 2.3 honse your
2.3
2.32.33 then?

do my ppc 

holy hell
a cub skill made a breakpoint
first time the cub damage has actually done something significant for me
can ya pilot my dark then record ? 

wdym loona's cub making my f2poor ass score 4m less
how
hee
okay people living here
no i ded
oh no
No i ded
very good very good
i dont have it 
yall was there a limited time something in babylonia?
nuh
that perma
i didnt touch it since its release
same
whose cub is better to ss for void if 333 113 111
cub personal passive is kinda important to luna thats why
luna or ish iirc

is ish still the heavy hitter in void or is it equal among the three?
perhaps
but luna does so much damage she is a contender
ish has the time stop spam on her side for a bit lower damage
I guess it's time to buy bp
cub rank doesn't matter though

Whel
why now specifically 
sponsor
Ur funny
my wanshi is stuck on ss7 and loona is missing the cub

you mean you ran out of vouchers?
yh
or you are investing into another?
and I hope you know luna cub is not guaranteed atp
😭
Ur so phat

Whel
ok whel
clearly the correct choice

2 questions, does nirvatia uses dlt? and does she always use the 3p blue-yellow orb-ult-3p red twice-yellow-ult rot?
early access
no DLT I think, unless you solo her or something
bro

damn
did you remove it magma?
No
ok then mods reacted to my mail perhaps 

Someone deleted msg but other msg still up in general help

free RC

gen help removed too now
to answer your other query
yes
if nirv SSS then you just yellow > ult > red > yellow > ult 2 > blue
also don't forget blue at the end for below SSS too
you need it to only ping once when you swap-in (or in SSS case no ping)
Malding mob dark or ice is crazy

idk I just gave up malding 
I wantap
I just want one ok run
smh
have fun in nihil
and call it a day
Can't even get that
sponsor another bp plox
yes 1 bp isn't gonna magically give you all the vouchers 
it's an investment
you buy all of them 
Phat whel

so when the time comes, you have reservations
woah
God damn
What are you waiting for
hanging leap
and more discounts
and in case I need more weapon reso
also why doesnt this give wanshi
Vouchers on wep reso is a waste ngl

Free units aren't there, only leap units

at the rate which we earn weapon reso, not really
if you want R1 for every S-rank
R3*
and you can't really get a reso any better way
or that 
18k vouchers for 1 reso
tell me what I'm missing
its that easy
ugh i gotta play dark wz
Or 16k for 1 unit copy
monthly weapon isn't the best

100 rc for 30 shards a month
and 10 pull on weapon banner
then there are gacha coatings
which is a scam all in all
big top-ups mostly too
Gacha coatings are usually good value actually
depends on how much you want the coating
They tend to stay at around 25bc/rc which is bad on its own but you get the skin on top
Why would you pull if you didn't want the coating
exactly


?
So it's bad value to you
sure
but skins are relative
so you can't count them as "value"
you aren't able to utilize them
no benefits to having them besides having to buy a more expensive PC (if you wanna call that a benefit
)
Well of course that's why value varies from person to person??
Like
What
I thought we were talking about objective value
in terms of what you get for your buck
you can't spend skins on anything so that's a big 0
If you see a skin you want then pulling on it is good value but if you don't want the skin there's no benefit to pulling
I don't think good value is the right word for this
unless you can explain what you mean by value?
what is worth?
trying to understand your circular reasoning here
you can just say "I call it good value" or explain to me why you think that's true
I'm not arguing this
Brother

yappers
who's fit to be the qte bot on cope dark with ss3 rose and sss lilith
excluding watank
Ur bica keeps on being stupid
any off ele gen 3 SSS tank (except phys) who can hold DD
Reset my run 10x now
my phone stuck on 10 fps cuz of watank

where 300x reset
like skins 

I promise I do not care if you don't like skins
good, you shouldn't 

Likewise you shouldn't care if people do 
I wasn't caring 
I was arguing your choice of words
value is inherent
not given
If you're weird sure
skins can't be spent on vouchers, black cards, or anything of the sort
I managed to get character portraits and memories data and character data
Now i just need to determine the memories in them, i need your help @noble zinc then i can start working on front end
does knightnami even get field time on cope dark team?

save ult2 for swap in? or u do ult1 on swap
Save ult2 for swap
ig it wasnt about the cub, im just washed
lmao
You can't ult anyways without swap


I think anyways unless I'm misremembering cause this is the first time I used ish in dark since start of rose patch
And I didn't mald it
ss3 luna/ish, 3s nirv 221
10m is washed yeah

cant defend that 
my fingers too slow for ishmommy
SS3 luna also kinda weak
It's true she demands speed
I would know
that reminds me

it's about the same
You mean chr memories for each?
Pretty much. But only for relevant characters of each team
When need and for wjich which chrs
Once that is done, i can go ahead and work on frontend of this helper app, so people can just look up the builds instead of asking here

Ill let you know, right now i have to go buy some groceries so in like 3 hours

One more thing i want to add is team recommendations and a video gameplay to help them with it
is there a way to speed run desperado clash?
not really, you are generally in for a 10-15 minute match and you always want to go for a specific build that you can reach, getting the best gear to ensure the win
im only on the first rank first star
i didnt know the nameplates are limited...
hai do u have vid ref for cope dark team with a qte bot that isn't watank?
eh they aren't worth the trouble imo, but if you really want them you'll just have to pick the easiest strategy and bear with it
phone too garbo for this 
Then do rose double amp

What full inv
ss3 1r rose, sss 3r lilith
sss knightnami and wanshi
Don't have

i threw last wanshi rot
fck it imma go blind


needs 4 herschell
Can time cub skill
If enmy black
Its for dark as off ele tank I think
So no need for sure
isn't her shred field on it?
Uuuh no
The field is from qte

aight
Like I said, the better wata
Nuke btw, whose stronger at SSS, Luna or Ish?
As in who contributes highest dmg in team with Nirvatia
67 mil 
Luna
luna has dmg spikes
ish definitely has spread out damage but it often feels short
ish dmg are linear
Qte nuke+personal dmg+ offield there many things 
does anyone know if sothoth cottie or element better for ish?
sothoth for wz, ele for ppc
Im really wondering who to use this for
Its either Luna (and +18 shards left for 3S) or for SS3 Ish
ish prob contributes highest dmg to team via breaker buffs but not her own dmg but you can get sss tank easily so luna def wins there regardless
i picked ish on my 3 alts
since sss tank vs breaker not so huge as non sss tank
maybe ss3 ish, dunno how relevant she will be later on tho 
For SSS wanshi, do you need dlt for triple ult or am i doing something wrong
yeah generally you do
ish is breaker in my void, does she still need cottie?
well. yeah.. she rotates
dlt is not needed for wanshi
with parry and good orb rng? I agree
rng is like barely a factor
dlt is just for ~~ skill issu ~~ comfy
Need? Nah not needed
just have good timing on red
so in wz, void team has no element mem used right? invest 333
Also, Wanshi is like...may become the weakest link/member soon in ice team
Who knows
R2 on him kinda meh
nirvatia uses it in some invests but 333 no
How so?
elaborate
Dodge the blue with red
but for triple rot you need 3+6+6 pings
its enough
and you get some orbs from shooting
but idk, I ran out without DLT
sometimes
if DLT is not needed I want to know how
Dont hold red for too long
hold red fast enough to get 1 orb
you play normally
You need 5 3 pings total for triple ult no
Swap > 3p > red tap into reload into ult > 3p x2 > red hold into reload into ult > 3p x2 > red tap into ult
and yea this
Ngl, I just put lingya in 3rd member if dun wanna mald wanshi orb 
but does double starter even do much at lower wanshi invest
even s+ wanshi double starter is mixed
If need
Also for some reason sometimes teddy doesn't get the swap in ult and idk why
Zone depend
yea zone depend at s+
i would just expect things to be more consistent at lower ranks
since this mf deal no dmg

rip
yes, just tap it quickly

Fk whel rights
so like dante rot
malding nihil is painful
on wave 19 I realized I need to use 3 cub skills and a luna qte to kill

when he is in SDT mode you tap red to consume bar quicker and ult faster
its not like dante
and I gotta time it fast or else Ish shred field runs out in 0.5s
U need to do 3 colored orb as her last ult before swap out
And u need to ult 3 times total with the other member
so how is it
like hold only for half a second
I'm doing that, somehow ran out of orbs without DLT 
it shouldnt be any different if you play him right
you ran out of wanshi orbs??
so that 1 orb is what he needs 
problem with the red is it's finnicky af
sometimes it doesn't go off
you get 1 orb on every succesful attempt btw, so 3 orb if doing triple ult rot
that's basically cope dlt
isn't "successful dodge" meaning you dodged an attack?
'will automatically dodge'
yeah same thing with luna
blue orb grenade counts as attack

The 3 ult was the issue
Man i had such a good nihil run
And then i bricked because i forgot hold dodge
Wait
It's possible to do the rotation too fast?
Ish was still on swap cooldown
well yes but actually no
id like to think so
Me washed unless doing 32
Can you hop onto my account my PC keeps lagging and its keeping me from properly doing dark WZ pls
no? what's that?
Score nerf/ dmg nerf
hopping onto accounts to do stuff for other people
fck this sht phone
nukelao pilots everyone tho
Lowkirk about to facepalm until my head implode
I dont know how you feel look my high score is 25mil im stuck a 23mil cause of lag i can show u how bad it is if u dont believe me
I honestly shouldn't have improved my void score
The dude currently in third actually can promote this week
So i delayed him
I cannot be bothered to learn that rotation for ss3 bianca
Mob zone moment
I just used lilith dps and prayed for the best
i love having a 5050 chance of a run being instantly ended because bianca misses qte
So can anyone explain me how the optimal rotation for ss3 rosetta works
I don't understand it at all so i just use the basic double ult
Blue blue hold ba transform tap red hold BA (tap red until ult ready bc bath) ult > repeat > swap
Well second rot is double blue blue hold instead of single but you know what i mean
im not piloting dont worry

I also don't know what that Lilith rotation was that i saw but i feel like that might be a "exact rotation depends on the specific zone to prevent damage whiffs"
bad run but im not malding 24 ult + good rng
not malding mobs 

30 sec wave 30 u whel
🐳

Simply crit
I crit my acc goodbye
What even is point of 3s cub
Sticker
100 atk is nice to have

100 attk that impactful?

Can be like from the vid above
if want to play properly
its not that impactful but it can meet breakpoints
But what about 5% edb? 
and that does mean something
Hmm
ss cub
Man why tf did I ss Selena and Bianca cubs 
always sig skill > 10% elem > 5% edb > 100atk
idk
fake selena fans smh

If you played Norman during the early editions, you know that 100 atk does make a big difference

remember the days when batteries are only 240 at 3rd day
and you need to clear ex05 on the 3rd day for max rewards
Only whels can clear Ex 5 smh
ah yes, the era where ex06 was hell before balter dropped
Imagine fighting Buffed Lamia, with Veritas

it's funny that dark was easiest to clear for my ex06
to the point I didn't need a lot of batteries for dark
Dark boss was the spider ball right
riot yea
Bianca watermelons
ss3 and 3s nvidia build?
ss3 team (dv sup) ele dv-atk class
3s team guin dv-atk class
(if have 3s tank like wata but ss0 ish) ss3 team (dps) ele cot- atk ult
(arete) bulg cot
-levisha

Really fun
We need a Norman that's just as bad or worse
0s for each stages
@spiral merlin who is nukelao


Can you pilot dark for me pls my lag is horrible i cant get my score up properly
Nude no more pilot us f2pees
no
It's mob
nukelao smh out here piloting other ppl dark while he rejected my demand without hesitation
haiya f2poor life not ez
I can't that


can't even spank a butt when u see one haiya
So for neutral ppc
Who's the fastest
Because ive seen some people use Nvidia dps for that?
nvidia ult 1 kill is fastest
less than 0.7s needed
2nd is fast ult ishmael
less than 1s too for ult2
3rd is fast ult luna
+- 1.8 prep for ult2
basically void team is anomaly
pianissimo also fast kill using blue orb (SSS needed)
5s boss animation included
pyroath 9s score is fastest
liv 10s score fastest
midanca 10s score fastest
arete is 8s fastest (arete starter) SS3 minimmum
Bur no one is faster than my goat wata
What's the team for this one?
full void
Sig cot nirv, dvc gloria eins ish?
u dont need cottie to do that
I don't even know what luna would have here other than bath

4 ele 4 fred also works
How can you trigger fred fast?
how ss-ss3 memories for nirvatia looks like? still saw different guides
Wut guide 
What team investment
Why dark so low
mobs
ss3 luna ss ish i guess
Must
Looking at fred again
Completely forgot the 4p eff isn't tied to dodge
🦓
It just used to be back when i last used it before because that was back when it was the only way to trigger matrix

Why’s the frog fkng Asian 💀

yeah, just on 2 pc need dodge
Mix between ult and class bottom
For ppc specifically
Dunno that 
atk ult for dps ult1 kill ppc
non dps is class / mixed
with yellow too ig
for wz ?
@noble zinc
confirm
thx
And "non-dps" is just any of the dvc versions right
B4 ult 2
yellow orb for sexy pose dmg
Be it ele or guin 4pc
Civilized server fr
Dead server fr
Both acc retain nice 
Whel
whel
Send
My wife better not be homeless

I better not see some stupid seashell as her cub
Lao do my wz too pls

End ur life

Lvl 175
hello, what resonance should i put for nirvatia memories?
God damn

This gramps
its 17
U want me to finish ur Norman too
if you want to 
Me too lazy to setup
Bro u have Ishmael as ice amp
icenew subshit
U don’t need this presetup do u
nonono

Can I change old one to dark PPC






Damn this homeless honse
nirvatia memory set?
ss3 team (dv sup) ele dv-atk class
3s team guin dv-atk class
(if have 3s tank like wata but ss0 ish) ss3 team (dps) ele cot- atk ult
(arete) bulg cot
ele?
Nihil comp ppc
yes

Aight
Glace Selena 2 cot 2 klev?
4 bathlon
yes
Wth
you can try 4cot, idk if there's much difference
so da vinci and who is ele?
Any elemental shred
elegnora signora
oh aight thanks
i had a break and i didnt build fire lucia. Is it even worth to go for her weapon since we are getting a new fire construct in a couple of days?
sadge i liked her animations
my liv lum (sub)dps does like 23043 per basic attack, is that ok-ish?
Wanshi no weapon reso wth
oh right its off meta

are we deadass
why are we running liv lum
why not?

i cant tell whether youre crazy for using liv lum or using basic attacks as dps measurement
both
i js look at her basic attack dmg after i activ8 her passive
truly evergreen
Ah hell nah ml even worse
God damn 3s nirv is op asf
The more I play this team, the less I know what I'm doing on Ishmael. Now it's gonna get worse cuz I chose her SS3 from selector (over Nanami and Hanying) so ig I'm screwed, and even more so if I decide to get her sig.
Also I'm only 1 shard away from SSS Nirvatia lul but I can only get more vouchers next patch rip. They needa start giving out m...
Why did he choose SS3 Ish over SS3 Nanami when his Ish is sigless

the only thing he prolly is smelling the all in one shampoo i use
Fraudmael just claimed another victim
Here one tap
Time to do Norman
i physically recoiled
I deadass almost not pulled Nvidia before banner end

if you just pulled then enjoy the brick
Whel pulling free unit
lwk why do they gotta make the constructs so fine, is it canon that they even have their junks?
Exit’s that way
I’m done

I shouldnt be laughing when I am crying inside watching that
What kamu sig memo do

question: i have enough to get either ishmael or nanami to SSS with the selector from last patch
which one do i choose?
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Explore the 52 characters of Lich from the Europe server of Punishing: Gray Raven.
Both are ss3, how are you gonna sss them?
Pull offrate banner i guess

Maybe ish?
Nanami seems to be the safest one to be at sss
why not? i can get every new character to sss (mostly)
ok whale

You could never go wrong with either two tbh
Chrome glory
yeah so im wondering given i have 1 sss on the lightning team and 2 sss on the nihil
i love both characters tbh so its mostly about which is better for the team
Let's see
Nana is meta in 3-4 teams which makes her the best pick at sss
Ish is still the main damage dealer for nihil, can be a good amp substitute for lightning
nana meta on lightning plasma raydiance and maybe ignition?
@ripe stag oi

im hoping they replace feral soon (i love her so much but shes useless)
Soon enough
afaik nanami still meta on ignition (unless kamui)
Who pinky
ca ofc
fk whel
Pyro 


ayla
Slacc bracket smh
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