#📨・meta-help
nova marten
upbeat phoenix
Just how much field time does he have
hes replacing lucia so he gets as much as he possibly can
frank jungle
This is sss right
Probably SSS+
upbeat phoenix
yes
keen sable
only in fire right?
noble zinc
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worthy spindle
Or thet dont 
frank jungle
Idk empress always SSS+
worthy spindle
maybe 1 person
oh
sour silo
Do beta players check ss0 ever
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There's this one
Minimum for breaker units rn 10m+
feral flume
There's new IB boss next patch?
noble zinc
Dinobot
nova marten
Ew not the Dinohopper
mighty tusk
Cradle is like the lowest hp boss in IB
yea, even melinoe and overseer is tankier than IB cradle
spiral merlin
cn hax
noble zinc
dawn cloak
Oh
worthy widget
Nukelao is kamui ion executioner
spiral merlin
i will forever hate this executioner term nanamibrainrot
he is plasma and he does more dmg than lucia
worthy widget
What’s a better term then
mighty tusk
What’s a better term then
main dps
dawn cloak
Nice
Plasmaoath now dead?
spiral merlin
dps or subdps
mighty tusk
back to usual
mighty tusk
they abandoned the whole "must build stacks to deal affix dmg> used by 1 unit"
spiral merlin
he can use plasma gauge +1 rota on top of that when its depleted
dawn cloak
worthy widget
Imagine I can stick my 3s honse in new fire lmao
plain oyster
mighty tusk
when was the last time kuro added a new weap reso?
graceful summit
Imagine I can stick my 3s honse in new fire lmao
Pak whel
plain oyster
wise axle
When can we unlock harmony lv2 & 3
fluid gulch
he can use plasma gauge +1 rota on top of that when its depleted
Just make it so he can't activate plasma guage
So you will be forced out
wise axle
And it surely isn’t going to use the harmony mat we have now
fluid gulch
b for balance
fluid gulch
Flux n fire
Didn't ken say it's only for fire?
fluid gulch
plain oyster
buoyant hornet
he can use plasma gauge +1 rota on top of that when its depleted
He's also able to recharge the gauge by spamming yellow lmao
buoyant hornet
50 million on solo kamui in plasma warzone
Clearly you weren't around for rosetta beta because this isn't the first happening 
They're gonna send the nerf hammer quickly
wintry raft
Ik and I hate it every single time
radiant panther
Man, no amount of savings can dislodge me of pull debt when Kamui comes out
buoyant hornet
Ik and I hate it every single time
I just really hope they manage to rebalance things where swap is still the best :/
Everyone knows I'm Kamui's biggest fan but I still don't like soloing
wintry raft
Same I'm not going back to solo nanami, qu life
formal radish
Everyone knows I'm Kamui's biggest fan but I still don't like soloing
Hey hey
Pipe down
uncky
upbeat phoenix
I just really hope they manage to rebalance things where swap is still the best ...
yee nirvatia was good cause of that
upbeat phoenix
bro chill
zenith thorn
u too
upbeat phoenix
take advice from your username
formal radish
Old man yells at cloud
final fog
worthy widget
S+ r3 alpha
wintry raft
What kind of meta goes in Not Punishing Gray Raven
Sophia T0
formal radish
What kind of meta goes in Not Punishing Gray Raven
CW T1
sly geyser
hi I'm new
worthy widget
Hi I’m dum
wintry raft
we know Hi
sour silo
What kind of meta goes in Not Punishing Gray Raven
i don't know i just got here
Imma support this new game ig
formal radish
Be grateful uncky
sour silo
This game not f2p?
formal radish
zenith thorn
What kind of meta goes in Not Punishing Gray Raven
not uninstalling the game and sweating wz ppc
only true casuals do that
icy atlas
did i hear wz sweat
zenith thorn
the m*ta gamers doesnt play the game
icy atlas
peak halo
the m*ta gamers doesnt play the game
U are metaslave
carmine roost
Lemme login
It resets to 0 btw
formal radish
~~It resets to 0 btw~~
What
carmine roost
I'll let u think about it
Nuh uh
zenith thorn
Mambo backwards os Obmam
mambo is obama???
outer spear
is it hard to reach 1.8m in ppc using only SS?
fluid gulch
Not really
eager oasis
Finally got sss teddy
Do I go sss Nvidia or Luna next
ripe stag
How much does the BP which gives vouchers cost?
woeful root
Erm
eager oasis
68 rc iirc
woeful root
I think bro is a little bit overtuned
ripe stag
68 rc iirc
How much is that in bucks
outer spear
Not really
well, i just assume it since SSS+ got around 1.890 which is 90k diff, or i saw wrong at top 100
woeful root
Kuro can you please nerf him 
eager oasis
How much is that in bucks
Arround like 10-15? There's so many stupid tiers
Getting a pack that has like 67 rc
, so you have to buy the next higher one 🥀
formal radish
well, i just assume it since SSS+ got around 1.890 which is 90k diff, or i saw w...
Getting higher and higher scores is always gonna get exponentially harder
eager oasis
I need vouchers for sss Luna
Then spend the 10 bucks
Are you like a high schooler?
Or is ur local currency dead
formal radish
1.8 to me is braindead easy
1.85 to me is somewhat difficult
1.87+ is practically impossible for me
steady otter
sure
battle versus bot need nerf
wanton hatch
woeful root
He's illegally doing good dmg 
woeful root
Lucia is eating mud good god
fluid gulch
dw they're nerfing him in v2
last blade
Kuro dont nerf males superior forever
woeful root
Bro even doing 5 ults in ion
wintry raft
Damn Sophia is OP, she must be an amazing S-rank, right?
Yeah she's ||A||S||S|| rank for sure
woeful root
He's truly a rebranded Pyroath
fluid gulch
Bro even doing 5 ults in ion
it's solo kamui ion
wanton hatch
woeful root
dw they're nerfing him in v2
I hope 
plain oyster
dw they're nerfing him in v2
Nah
woeful root
Kuso need to nerf his ass
vital nova
does sss nirv use 4bulgakov 4gui or is there a better set?
woeful root
This mf can even fill up ion bar, it's over
plain oyster
does sss nirv use 4bulgakov 4gui or is there a better set?
Full 3s team?
4dv 4guin
orchid owl
server should've named #📨・meta-help casul-help for the time being 
vital nova
Full 3s team?
4dv 4guin
sss nirv and ss3 others
wanton hatch
why me, I don't like that bish so she's perma on ele
plain oyster
plain oyster
Wow
vital nova
wanton hatch
nirvatrash
plain oyster
vital nova
what does ele mean here??
hoary dagger
This mf can even fill up ion bar, it's over
Pyroath also can but it just takes forever for her to fill it
keen sable
deft apex
This mf can even fill up ion bar, it's over
Oh no its so over, I really hope he doesn't score 50m...
wanton hatch
what does ele mean here??
elem set
plain oyster
what does ele mean here??
Shred memo like bath, shakes, heisen, chen
woeful root
Yeah he's defo getting nerfed
feral flume
Vero treatment nerf
vital nova
Shred memo like bath, shakes, heisen, chen
is there one for nihil?
spiral merlin
This is really bad cause I don’t trust kuro to properly balance him by the time beta ends
woeful root
Self sustaining while being able to not run out of orbs for an entire run, this mf deserve the worse nerf in history
wanton hatch
This is really bad cause I don’t trust kuro to properly balance him by the time ...
kuro and balancing?
deft apex
This is really bad cause I don’t trust kuro to properly balance him by the time ...
Vero levels on v2
wanton hatch
deft apex
We can hope
vital nova
is there nihil shred memo?
formal radish
Show vid
white sleet
Can you record it in some way?
formal radish
Or u can stream if u like
deft apex
Keep holding ba when pressing dodge
deft apex
Don't let go of it
formal radish
No not yomm's vid
plain oyster
is there nihil shred memo?
No
formal radish
Your vid
wanton hatch
ur vid not Yomm's
golden star
I'll record
deft apex
Well good riddance might as well not have typed
formal radish
His thumbnails are even more obvious
golden star
The only one who puts step by step instruction for tards like me🙏
formal radish
Crucifying watanabe is wild work
formal radish
The only one who puts step by step instruction for tards like me🙏
Yes Yomm our goat
golden star
🤯🤯🫡🫡
wanton hatch
then wtf was Levi talking about
shakes bath heis chen
formal radish
then wtf was Levi talking about
He might be talking about elemental shred memories that Luna converts
wanton hatch
plain oyster
then wtf was Levi talking about
I already told u tho
formal radish
Oh sorry forgot Levisha was a woman
plain oyster
Bath etc
formal radish
Can't believe FEMALES play my male self insert game...
plain oyster
plain oyster
golden star
Keep holding ba when pressing dodge
Hey I did it thanks I love you
vital nova
shakes bath heis chen
they work cuz luna??
wanton hatch
ye
vital nova
golden star
deft apex
Hey I did it thanks I love you
golden star
Just like this right
formal radish
skk not self insert
Nowadays he is
wanton hatch
looks good 
golden star
Yesterday i malded ice and got 8.7m
Highest ever i got
And 7.9m in dark without rosetta sig
Yay
vital nova
looks good <:KannaSip:1013493755539619881>
does that rot work on ss0?
ripe stag
Guys guys
wanton hatch
does that rot work on ss0?
yes 
golden star
Thanks y'all
vital nova
yes <:Cabbit:1486404201742598384>
isn't it supposed to be red, dodge, red, dodge, hold ba, ult?
golden star
Wao empress posted 50m now
😢
formal radish
Yes minimum invest for this vera rot to be functional is 222 001
vital nova
My vera is ss0
same but I never seen this rot before
final fog
same but I never seen this rot before
Ideally you do that 2 times before swapping out
formal radish
same but I never seen this rot before
This is like THE fire rotation
final fog
But need dlt on vera
vital nova
This is like THE fire rotation
well I was taught to red, dodge, red, dodge, hold ba, ult
plain oyster
well I was taught to red, dodge, red, dodge, hold ba, ult
You can also do that
final fog
Whats important is that you need to fit both ults in the amp window
white sleet
For ice warzone, is it better to use SS0 rosetta rather than SSS Lilith? Wanshi and Teddy both SSS. Although wanshi reso is still sig, I should change to tank
final fog
For ice warzone, is it better to use SS0 rosetta rather than SSS Lilith? Wanshi ...
Need roetta 3s
plain oyster
final fog
Its The 6dv strat i think
plain oyster
3s?
iirc some use ss3
final fog
Can she store qte charges at ss3?
white sleet
Need roetta 3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Hn0kI-w-Y Seen this and rosetta is ss0
so idk if its legit strat
frank jungle
Watta helly
final fog
1st time i see it though
white sleet
icic
deft apex
Whats important is that you need to fit both ults in the amp window
Cuz then they'll both be buffed
By said amp
final fog
Yuh
final fog
Watta helly
Ignition?
golden star
Whats important is that you need to fit both ults in the amp window
Are both ways same duration
white sleet
Watta helly
idk if its like that for every investment but this is nanami v2 man 😭
golden star
Or is one faster than the other
white sleet
since lilith
final fog
Waw
white sleet
saw the vid and you legit don't use lilith for apply affix except for first rot
frank jungle
Kamui can gen his own plasma🥀
plain oyster
Can she store qte charges at ss3?
Putting ros is not for qte charges
Its for breaker and shred uptime iirc
frank jungle
Unlike fraudcia
slender scarab
that battery charge is so getting nerfed on v2
deft apex
10m I think
final fog
plain oyster
16m for ss0
golden star
Is physical the weakest rn?
final fog
16m for ss0<a:cat_eating:1481291921140744302>
Only plasma or both fire and plasma?
frank jungle
Is physical the weakest rn?
Physical is always the weakest
plain oyster
Only plasma or both fire and plasma?
Plasma
Fire i think lower
frank jungle
No matter who gets updated
vital nova
You can also do that
I just realized that the second rot of that rot does not get fully buffed
frank jungle
Bro
plain oyster
I just realized that the second rot of that rot does not get fully buffed <:Wata...
You're not doing dodge cancel when doing hold ba?
frank jungle
Selena is holding the physical team on her own rn
radiant panther
Fuh its april fools, I got juked by the servers Name
golden star
You're not doing dodge cancel when doing hold ba?
Yomms method is fastest ryt?
golden star
Selena is holding the physical team on her own rn
Idk man shi looks grim
white sleet
oh
frank jungle
Hanying is a disappointment and so is Veronica
sly geyser
is my nirv good or sht
vital nova
You're not doing dodge cancel when doing hold ba?
wouldn't I run out of dodge? we talking about the red dodge red dodge rot right?
white sleet
is my nirv good or sht
is your investment on void 333?
sly geyser
is your investment on void 333?
ye
frank jungle
wouldn't I run out of dodge? we talking about the red dodge red dodge rot right?
Nah
Unless you spam dodge
plain oyster
wouldn't I run out of dodge? we talking about the red dodge red dodge rot right?
The dodge cancel when holding ba also
vital nova
so I do 4 dodge in total in a single ult?
plain oyster
so I do 4 dodge in total in a single ult?
If ur doing that rot yeh
vital nova
plain oyster
Just red red tbh
sly geyser
red red will nuke ur rot... no?
plain oyster
<@1177122505937395758> Grok, what memo sets for 2.32.33 full nihil?
Nvidia just on 4dv 4ele any atk/class
Other same memo
sly geyser
who dodging the red ?
fluid gulch
Nvidia just on 4dv 4ele any atk/class
Other same memo
Ish 4 soth 4 cottie?
plain oyster
Yes
formal radish
who dodging the red ?
Vera
frank jungle
I thought too
sly geyser
plain oyster
frank jungle
Ish doesn't dodge red Dodge red
frank jungle
You red red then dodge
sly geyser
huh?
plain oyster
sly geyser
vera or ish omg
fluid gulch
Vera tf
sly geyser
fluid gulch
Ish wasn't even mentioned once
sly geyser
then u still wrong
fluid gulch
sly geyser
me thought ish mb
plain oyster
dawn cloak
sly geyser
I played this mode till here and i still don't understand what i'm doing
ripe stag
233
fluid gulch
Dis grok ain't groking smh
plain oyster
Where to find 2.32.33
fluid gulch
steal from ching chong
ripe stag
Where to find 2.32.33 <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Same as 22.33
fluid gulch
which is?
plain oyster
Maybe same as all 2.3?
plain oyster
fluid gulch
@noble zinc Can you gib ref for 2.32.33 full nihil pretty please?
plain oyster
vague nebula
golden star
My selector gone to waste
Same
sly geyser
phew
plain oyster
Wth is ss0 luna
wanton hatch
plain oyster
sick flower
@ripe stag whos your pfp
ripe stag
What memo all
Cottie cleo Luna
Sig Cottie Nir
Alphonse dv wata
Can go higher
feral flume
plain oyster
Oh not ele cot nir
formal radish
I thought nirvatia would use ele cot here?
ripe stag
Oh not ele cot nir<:4worryhmm:853795434031874048>
Probably can do it
feral flume
Cottie cleo Luna
Sig Cottie Nir
Alphonse dv wata
Can go higher
Yea why don't u try elem
Maybe it could score higher
ripe stag
This is so peak
formal radish
nah thats not cw
Shiori Novella
plain oyster
formal radish
Ok
sick flower
My home country's currency is so dead
india yes
plain oyster
valid reef
So like i havent been in like the meta/havent played the game in a good few patches due to school in a good while but whats the new dark team? Since i do plan to probably use my blue target for rosetta
formal radish
So like i havent been in like the meta/havent played the game in a good few patc...
When did you quit
The dark team depends on your investment
valid reef
When did you quit
Not that long i stopped for teddys patch And then came back for nirvativa and i saw new kamui
formal radish
If low investment bianca like SS0 then you have Rosetta dps, Lilith subdps, and a tank for qte
If bianca is SS3 you could maybe put her on the team?
But she needs to do the 5ult rotation
If she's sss or higher then she is just on the team for sure
Yes get rosetta arete
And then it'll be like you never missed a patch 🙏
valid reef
If low investment bianca like SS0 then you have Rosetta dps, Lilith subdps, and ...
Oh wow so my bianca is ded 
formal radish
Yep
Thank kuro balancing
Though
If you really wanna cope you can try doing her 5ult rot at ss0
Can't guarantee you'll get a higher score though
valid reef
If you really wanna cope you can try doing her 5ult rot at ss0
Probably not
formal radish
It really sucks though
valid reef
Ill just use the old dark team till rosetta gets on blue target
formal radish
I loved Bianca
valid reef
I loved Bianca
I really like her gameplay shes so fun
wanton hatch
formal radish
I really liked the 5ult
valid reef
It really sucks though
True
sly geyser
should i harmo dv nirv set ?
rose yew
Why are you asking
You’re overflowing with mats
nova forum
Chat I need vid ref for 2.333 void
sly geyser
man with only s ranks in the horizon better be ready
sly geyser
Chat I need vid ref for 2.333 void
i think nuke made something like that
all shtty stuff done
topaz vigil
what build should i use for nirv?
im so idiot dude i used my blue target for luna holy hell
nova marten
what build should i use for nirv?
Need to know ur Nihil team invest, all of them
Tell us if u have SSS Wata or not because it will matter
vital nova
If ur doing that rot yeh
i dont understand how this rot works, i run out of dodges mid second rot
graceful summit
i dont understand how this rot works, i run out of dodges mid second rot <:LeeTh...
Can you record that perhaps
Pretty sure you're not supposed to run out
fluid gulch
swap in->dodge->blue->dodge->blue->ult->red->dodge->red->holdba->3 dodges in timing-> ult
You should not run out
graceful summit
swap in->dodge->blue->dodge->blue->ult->red->dodge->red->holdba->3 dodges in tim...
Why red dodge red
ripe stag
Aight I need exactly 3 Mpass A
graceful summit
Also why 3 dodge on hold ba
fluid gulch
Also why 3 dodge on hold ba
wait
ripe stag
flint shore
what's the memory set should I use for sub DPS Nanami?
graceful summit
There's liv right
vital nova
Why red dodge red<:WorryCommandant:860198708415168549>
why not?
graceful summit
SS Liv <:WorryCommandant:860198708415168549>
Same thing
Nana run 4 sig 2 cot 2 eins
3 ult nana
graceful summit
why not?
You wasted damage
For a little time save
Rarely worth in wz
Only ever used in ppc
graceful summit
You need to dodge 3 times for cancel holdba tech
Mf you only dodge the first 2
graceful summit
Yep
flint shore
graceful summit
Is that nana r1?
flint shore
uhuh
flint shore
Also do you know how to 3 ult
how's it
graceful summit
how's it <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Uhhhhh
First rot
2x3p yellow hold ba ult swap out
Second onwards
2x3p yellow ult
Yellow basic4x hold ba(300) ult
2x3p basic2x hold ba(170) ult
hasty badge
just saw some beta things. is my lucia ss3 ded? 
graceful summit
-# tbf the chances are pretty high
flint shore
Uhhhhh
First rot
2x3p yellow hold ba ult swap out
Second onwards
2x3p yellow ult...
okay I think I kinda get it, what stack for first ult tho? Like no stack at all?
hasty badge
graceful summit
okay I think I kinda get it, what stack for first ult tho? Like no stack at all?...
None
Insta hold ba
vital nova
what do u use to record?
flint shore
what do u use to record?
Try Glip, it's pretty good 
vital nova
damn i have to download another app
as u can see from the vid, i cant repeat the rot on second rot smh
dawn cloak
but damn thats a lot of score to nerf
Reminder Kamui is a gen 4 unit, and Breaker, an upgraded tank
While Plasmaoath is gen 3 and first ever affix dps/executioner/attacker
flint shore
damn i have to download another app <:DumbDawn:842384120230445116>
Ye...but the quality is worth tho
imo
dawn cloak
Rarely worth in wz
How true is this?
Cuz I remember Azriel's convo about this stuff
fluid gulch
Reminder Kamui is a gen 4 unit, and Breaker, an upgraded tank
While Plasmaoath i...
tf, since when breakers are gen 4 units now
dawn cloak
tf, since when breakers are gen 4 units now
So Kamui shred numbers is the same as Wata shred?
fluid gulch
Powercreep
dawn cloak
Higher right?
fluid gulch
Not diff gen
dawn cloak
So yes its gen 4
fluid gulch
nuh uh
dawn cloak
Any numbers? Or where can I read it?
plain oyster
as u can see from the vid, i cant repeat the rot on second rot smh
When holding ba, your holding it while dodge cancel right? Or maybe not
fluid gulch
The whole "gen" thing is about unique traits of new batch of characters
higher shred is just a result of powercreep and breaker being op asf
dawn cloak
The whole "gen" thing is about unique traits of new batch of characters
Bro, since its a tank, Im talking about the shred number
Rosetta is still gen 3 because of it, or well gen 3.5 if u wanna call it that way
Im asking the number. Is it still 45% at SSS like Wata?
Or higher?
fluid gulch
idk, I haven't seen his kit
fluid gulch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/945244852088623125.gif?size=48&animated=true&n...
Then specify next time, cuz you said character, not tank
vital nova
Really, u stop for a bit so i don't think so
i did?
hasty badge
Reminder Kamui is a gen 4 unit, and Breaker, an upgraded tank
While Plasmaoath i...
yeah but just unfortunate that 2nd breaker in the game also did the same thing w the first one. replacing the attacker if low invest
dawn cloak
Then specify next time, cuz you said character, not tank
Yes Kamui is a gen 4
And Rosetta is like a gen 3.5, just like how uncle Wata was gen 2.5
I dunno whats so confusing about this metawise
vital nova
<:4worryhmm:853795434031874048>
yes
plain oyster
fluid gulch
Yes Kamui is a gen 4
And Rosetta is like a gen 3.5, just like how uncle Wata was...
What unique mechanic does kamui have to make him gen 4 unit?
vital nova
i kept retrying and the second rot just doesnt want to work like the first 
plain oyster
yes
Do it like this instead
Hold ba, dodge when red gauge depletes (keep holding ba while doing this)
dawn cloak
What unique mechanic does kamui have to make him gen 4 unit?
Tbh youre nitpicking about something wierd in meta channel
Also being breaker, not tank, is enough to be a new gen
nova forum
wot reso should nirv have?
vital nova
Do it like this instead
Hold ba, dodge when red gauge depletes (keep holding ba...
ok that works but second ult isnt buffed
formal radish
Why is rosetta only 3.5
dawn cloak
Why is rosetta only 3.5
Shred number being older gen
plain oyster
ok that works but second ult isnt buffed
1ult should be around 5sec so hmm
formal radish
If wata's leap makes him gen 2.5 nanamech capri and empy need to be 1.5
I'm tired of people saying they're gen 2
They're not fully gen 2
formal radish
Shred number being older gen
What shred does kamui have
dawn cloak
If wata's leap makes him gen 2.5 nanamech capri and empy need to be 1.5
Not Wata leap, just Wata
formal radish
Wata on his own I don't think is Gen 2.5
vital nova
1ult should be around 5sec so hmm
if its buffed, it should show on the pause screen yes?
formal radish
I think Karenina is just an embarrassment of a gen 2 tank
nova forum
wot reso should nirv have?
fluid gulch
They're not fully gen 2
Both have tlc on ult, should be enough to be considered gen 2 ( although capri had to be fixed multiple times to get it )
dawn cloak
Wata on his own I don't think is Gen 2.5
Most ppl think like that
Individual opinion is irrelevant
formal radish
Both have tlc on ult, should be enough to be considered gen 2 ( although capri h...
They don't have rank ss3 stuff
I can't in my heart fully say that they're gen 2
dawn cloak
I dont even care about gen
But its helpful to differentiate for progression metawise
plain oyster
if its buffed, it should show on the pause screen yes?
If u still see the amp buff, yes
dawn cloak
<:hmmThinkers:860882439513440256>
Dunno, maybe just usual amp reso
So R2
spiral merlin
i think its hard to class breaker as anything but gen4
formal radish
An old character being buffed I don't see as being a newer gen
Does wata have more shred by default?
What's his base shred
spiral merlin
25%
vital nova
If u still see the amp buff, yes
yeah but second ult just doesnt want to get buffed smh
is the leeway time very small? or maybe its a memo problem?
dawn cloak
Does wata have more shred by default?
Wata have 45% shred while ppl at his gen still at 25% or being weird that need sig wp for extra 10% shred
U played this game longer than me Mambon
Pls 
formal radish
ppl referring to karenina
formal radish
Wata have 45% shred while ppl at his gen still at 25% or being weird that need s...
Sorry I meant Kamui
Not wata
formal radish
Can make an exception for observers and annihilators since they are nihil releases
Unless we get more annihilators and observers then for now they are gen 3
Vanguards are obviously different from the standard omniframe
dawn cloak
breaker has +10% edr on matrix
Hmmm so they dont give it for "free", the extra shred
But instead has to work for it by timing it
fluid gulch
Ye
spiral merlin
sss buffing that further since 2 charges of qte
formal radish
Hmm i sense a lapse in my judgment
I have to consider empy and capri as gen 2 if I consider rose and kamui gen 4
Better class with more buffs
I think Kuro realized that 15% just wasn't it for shred
So I consider 25% as to be gen 2 shrwd
Since Wata debuted with it and we've stuck with that
fluid gulch
Yeh, the criteria for new gen should be universal for all upcoming characters, not to just specific class
plain oyster
yeah but second ult just doesnt want to get buffed smh
is the leeway time very s...
I think ur just slow
fluid gulch
The best you can get breakers is gen 3.5
formal radish
Either selena and empy are gen 2
Or I consider rosetta and kamui gen 3.5
Otherwise I'm being inconsistent
And I just can't see them as gen 2
fluid gulch
let's stop on empy and capri being 1.5 and rosetta and kamui 3.5
formal radish
I think a gen 4 breaker will have more shred
fluid gulch
since I do agree with them not having tlc on release
formal radish
let's stop on empy and capri being 1.5 and rosetta and kamui 3.5
Nanami is just gen 1.5
fluid gulch
and ss3 buffs of course
formal radish
Weirdly technical for a fan made term
dawn cloak
yeah but second ult just doesnt want to get buffed smh
is the leeway time very s...
Should be 9 sec total so its not that tight
nova forum
nova forum
6 class
dawn cloak
<:DumbDawn:842384120230445116>
SSS and only a qte bot on debut smh
Poor Nvidia
nova forum
Should I give full HT
formal radish
I think all uniframes should be considered their own gen 1
Giving noan tlc would've probably broken the 'balance' of uniframes
dawn cloak
Should I give full HT<:DumbDawn:842384120230445116>
If youre rich
With SSS Ish, doubt you need that HT
formal radish
So I think despite that he should be bunched up in gen 2
nova forum
nova forum
How fcked is her damage
formal radish
1.5
nova forum
formal radish
2 for omniframes
fluid gulch
Giving noan tlc would've probably broken the 'balance' of uniframes
I think they decided to discontinue unis already on pulao patch or even earlier
formal radish
Should be pretty clear that everyone from Scire to Shukra should be gen 2
I think Gen 3 is one of the clearest splits
It starts with Teddy
Wait
Yeah teddy
She has affix technically
dawn cloak
How fcked is her damage
Uuuh, dunno
Ask nuke, oh he offline hmmmm
formal radish
Ok I will retract one of my statements
I think Watanabe has to be gen 2.5
There isn't any change with the tank mechanics
Other than the fact that they have more damage
Wait
No
Wata's back to 2
The new tanks have inbuilt affixes
formal radish
Gen 3 attackers have new ss3 nuke gimmicks
dawn cloak
There isn't any change with the tank mechanics
Shred field? Continuous shred field?
formal radish
Wata has that no
dawn cloak
just take the schizo pill bro
w それな
formal radish
Nanami is just special with her qte field
formal radish
Gen 3 amps have qte reset on swap
dawn cloak
Gen 3 amps have qte reset on swap
Also heal field
Ishamel technically being the first gen 3 amp
formal radish
I think 25% was the right amount of shred for gen 2
Karenina was too underpowered
Needed ss3
So other than the fact that the new tanks have affix
There's not much to split between wata and wanshi
But then again
If teddy having affix was enough to make her gen 3
nova marten
Wata better than Wanshjt
formal radish
Then so should the gen 3 tanks
nova marten
I do think Wata is gen 2.5 it makes no sense to call him 2 when he killed a gen 2 and has completely new kit that's consistent into the entire gen 3 tank
formal radish
I don't consider nanami gen 2 though
I think Watanabe was the right balance for gen 2 tanks
The others were too underpowered
I say others
When in my perspective there's only scire
dawn cloak
Now with Han leap announced (?) will Wanshi got leap?
Or must we suffer 3sec rot Wanshi just for him to ult and shred?
formal radish
I think kuro just fcked up with their balancing on tanks
Scire at ss0 was rather weak for how much later she released compared to Luna
nova marten
He should get one because otherwise he'll cripple his team once we get new Ice Attacker
formal radish
For some reason at ss3 she just turned into a god
So Watanabe was made
With more buffs
But those buffs might have been a little too much
So it carried over to gen 3
I'm thinking too much into this
Well I have no problem with anyone saying wata is gen 2.5
Or gen 2
I'm just trying to be consistent in my perspective
dawn cloak
I'm thinking too much into this
Less thinking, more mald
Where's your legend retain medal?
nova marten
Gen is made up shjts anyway
formal radish
Do u still have access?
formal radish
Haven't been able to retain yet
Too focused on other stuff
So wait back to my former point
Where wouldd my logic place Rosetta and Kamui
nova marten
Gen 4
vital nova
I think ur just slow<:4worryhmm:853795434031874048>
was my first rot in the vid slow?
nova marten
Completely new kit unlike anything else
formal radish
Yeah I think Gen 4
ripe stag
Now with Han leap announced (?) will Wanshi got leap?
Or must we suffer 3sec rot...
Ok here's what I think about new leaps
They are now giving leaps to units who lack certain effects which make sense for the unit's class to have, like tanks having shred field on QTE and bigger shred field
wind hemlock
Nirvatia is gen 3.5 like Liv
formal radish
Whatever if they're 3.5 or 4
nova marten
I don't see anything really special about Nvidia compare to other gen 3 Amp
ripe stag
formal radish
I'm kms this is so hard to make sense of
wind hemlock
The flock thing is new
formal radish
Can we make the exceptions?
ripe stag
I don't see anything really special about Nvidia compare to other gen 3 Amp
Cuz she's meant to be "gen 3 amp" anyways?
ripe stag
The flock thing is new
Only for nihil
nova marten
My logic is way way easier
If they have the same preset of kit then they're in the same rank
formal radish
Even with my aforementioned logic
That would make rosetta gen 4
But nirvatia gen 3.5
wind hemlock
Wtf
wind hemlock
But 20m
formal radish
Characters being insanely op in beta
wind hemlock
At 2S
noble zinc
That 4s fire score
wind hemlock
noble zinc
Rn
wind hemlock
V3 nerfed to the ground
nova marten
Just some examples
Gen 3 Attacker: QTE nuke gen 3, off field dmg after ult
Gen 3 Amp: QTE reset SSS, heal field
Gen 3 Tank: Shred field available, -3s swap CD at SSS
Gen 4 Tank: EDB shred during matrix, QTE spam SSS
That's how I see this, very consistent
nova marten
They killed his solo btw
formal radish
Just some examples
Gen 3 Attacker: QTE nuke gen 3, off field dmg after ult
Gen 3...
So that makes Wata gen 3
nova marten
Still, he could 43m Plasma with swap
formal radish
The anchor point for gen 3 for me is the affix
nova marten
If u consider affix the anchor point then Teddy is gen 3
noble zinc
formal radish
Yea
Well either teddy or luna
You can make an argument for both
The concept started with Teddy so I'll say teddy
nova marten
So why not call Bianca gen 4 since she has a new tier of affix
formal radish
But it doesn't really matter to me if you say it starts at Luna
formal radish
So why not call Bianca gen 4 since she has a new tier of affix
I don't see raydiance being anything special
formal radish
I don't care
nova marten
It belongs to a completely new tier
formal radish
Gens are a fanmade term
nova marten
See, not as consistent
formal radish
I'm saying is
It's consistent to me
Idgaf what your concept of gens are
Is it that hard
It's my perspective on gens
nova marten
Well I think all of them are gen 1 because it's my view
nova marten
nova marten
It's consistent u know
formal radish
It is
nova marten
All of them are in the same game
formal radish
To you
formal radish
Why are you trying to argue against my point in a subjective matter
nova marten
Cause I can
formal radish
I'm pretty sure that I've made it clear that this is my perspective
nova marten
It's my purpose
formal radish
nova marten
Oh don't worry I'm not here to change ur mind or anything
Just gonna bring some chaos here
formal radish
Definitely seemed like it for a bit
sturdy nimbus
nirvartia cub worth to ss or nah?
slow cobalt
Does anyone know the rot for my cope ah dark team?
Bianca ss3 r2
Lilith ss3 r3
Ish ss3 r1 (on qte bot set)
formal radish
I don't really think any cub is worth to ss
nova marten
nirvartia cub worth to ss or nah?
Ever heard of free CUB trick?
graceful summit
Does anyone know the rot for my cope ah dark team?
Bianca ss3 r2
Lilith ss3 r3
...
Where honse
nova marten
1 rot, ez
nova forum
Already tight timing
nova forum
Wots the input
graceful summit
And what's the problem with that
nova forum
Ngl kuro juiced nirv tf up only for her to be underwhelming
graceful summit
graceful summit
Literally the only reason she's support is because of Ishmael's shtty shred field
slow cobalt
Does anyone know the rot for my cope ah dark team?
Bianca ss3 r2
Lilith ss3 r3
...
I feel like my current rot is still the old ass one where you do use karen for 1 ult so i think I'm doing something wrong
wind hemlock
Ishmael leap when
slow cobalt
Ishmael leap when
All gen 2 support dies
mighty tusk
I doubt they're gonna keep ishmael updated in the near future
mighty tusk
should obli hold 2 ein
I've seen people run that
mighty tusk
die too fast
if it's hero, everything is squishy
eternal forum
Anything i could do to the team other than ss3ing ish?
formal radish
You could SSS ish
eternal forum
I need skulls
formal radish
Also I don't think Ishmael is dps here
slow cobalt
I need skulls
Then who tf did you use on the selector?
eternal forum
Also I don't think Ishmael is dps here
Yeah she's sub
eternal forum
Then who tf did you use on the selector?
Uhhhhhh nanami i think
I probably messed up
eternal forum
Yeah
formal radish
Then that was the right choice
eternal forum
Cuz she's the one i pulled with guarantee 😭
tacit tiger
pine slate
noble zinc
muted zenith
is he meta fire breaker?
sterile plank
hm
ripe stag
Yo I forgot
How do you do dv double rot for Ishmael again?
sterile plank
good arguements
muted zenith
Hydro Sinking Agent
EWWWWWW
please can we not have ww referenced in here? that game just leaves a bad taste in mouth with its horrendeous wz mode
rotund fox
Oh right
plain oyster
rotund fox
(Changed F*sion to Sinking from Limbus)
delicate isle
topaz vigil
Need to know ur Nihil team invest, all of them
Tell us if u have SSS Wata or not...
sss0 ishma 4sig 4cot, ss7 luna 4sig 4 cot
i do not have sss wata
chilly glade
is he meta fire breaker?
bro where is nugget nihil mannn
ripe stag
@spiral merlin do you remember the DV rot for Ishmael you sent?
Please can you send the inputs again
spiral merlin
Please can you send the inputs again
b ryrrdd
b rdd hd rdd
For all non cottie rots
coarse laurel
plain oyster
Set for nirvana?
What ur team invest?