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not that i have it but i'm curious if 3s horse better than 3s wata cuz breakershit
should be
tho i vaguely recall horse has field problems cuz qte doesn't refresh or smth
interesting, +15% edb on nirv personal > +25% void on nirv+luna?
i've been doing 2cot2ein luna
Below 3s mostly gets used
oh i guess nirv needs cott for double rot at 3s? or does she do triples idk
gotcha, then the tradeof is 15% edb nirv (minimal dilution if any) vs 10% heavily diluted void on nirv+luna
and i guess 3s luna strong enough so it makes sense to spread it out and buff nirv more with 4cott
tho prob depends on breakpoints
Nope
well more res = more score so 
ss3 nirv, or sss wata?
Why my loona doing so less dmg wtf
nude hax powa finally run out 
yoo well done
you can certainly push it higher but 10m is at least a nice milestone
Oh for sure I can push it higher but I'm also tight on game time this weekend
Still gotta do wuwa story and reset
Still much appreciated
Halp
Gs maybe but I tried delay qte's as well
That bear dmg so less
Does that yellow bar reduce dmg?
now seeing
no, yellow bar only reduces phy dmg, nothing else
Why so less dmg then
After your first luna rot you had done more damage for some reason
Yea that still thinking how
It happened first few runs
Then never again
I can adjust ele debuff but later ult 2 also does less dmg
Next wave also got bear
Oh wait your cub ability maybe?
you already used it on the better run
maybe using your cub exactly then lowered your damage or smth crazy like that

Yea that let's try
I had some weird cub stuff with ish
how am i in top 100 does eu only have 100 people in legend 
yeah
Pretty much
harder to get top 100 hero than top 100 legend
Did it work
no
rip
could def push more on nihil and ice but hopefully i stay in legend for more than one week this time
if its phys or fire next week im cooked tho
What team did you use for entropic distortion
raydiance 😭
Makes sense
i feel like i could push it higher too but im not in the mood to look up rotations for it
i just did nana swap teddy short rot swap b*anca double rot swap nana short rot...
what invest were those out of curiosity
damn, he's not whel he's leviathan
Its funny how this is barely above f2p invest but we all call him leviathan
huh??
im not 😭
?
how he got so many sss with barely above f2p invest
i do have most of my frames sss and r2/3 but its
for fire and phys atp
literally just waiting for someone to render pyroath and solace homeless

you can have 333 333 nihil ice as a f2p (and that would get way higher scores)
but I think this score is doable with 32.32.3 nihil and 32.33 ice
Its just that radiance score that seems whale
oh yeah my nihil rots stink
what invest was your raydiance
i messed up two ish rots there (forgot to 3p+dodge for kick), godawful play
messed up two ish rots and still 13.5m 
all 3s
i mean he has like 3s liv,rosetta and etc that are limited
yee im not saying he isnt a whale
not having bianca 3s probably just bricks raydiance
so much damage concentrated into her 3s
im just saying that the scores are possible without whel invest
except for the entropic distortion
maybe,i js checked huaxu and shocked
ishmael 3s...
you dont need ishmael 3s for 13.5m nihil
i suspected theyd make her a breaker with nirv but man
old man's still got it ig
old man is still cracked
ice im actually just not very good at, i probably should try the arete comp with her over ayla but change is scary
is vergil still meta?

anything new abt nirvatia's low spend build?
Depends on your nihil team investment
ss both ish and luna'
You have sss wata or roseta?

4 element 4 dv
On nirvatia
Ishmael and luna same build
Some people were experimenting with dv ishmael but idk where did that lead to
Some other dalao might know
what if my ish has soth guin]
then you built her ass wrong
if you don't have arete i guess dawg
arete kinda dumpsters him for everything though
wait so what's the buiold for ish
4 sig 4 cottie
wait nvm i did 4 soth 4 cott
idk where the hell i got guin from

Yea
Any 4 elemental, shakespeare, bathlon, chen jiyuan, Heisen
ahh so either soth or cleo for nirv?
owh
ke
i was concerned cuz i thought it was only for said element
like fire for fire or something
Literally Any element, because the debuff will be converted to void by Luna anyways
Is there any website where I can see team building and builds for characters?
Just ask here because team building is too varied
Alr, then I want to use nirvitia, so who should I pull on beginner banner to complete her team
Ish, then you can get luna from the 1$ deal
Just make sure it's not Patton
What 2/3 generic skills are better on CUBs: 10% elemental, 100 ATK, or extra damage after CUB skill?
10% elemental
And a second one?
Are you already using the main cub skill
The last one, char specific? Yes
I would probably use the extra dmg after cub skill
Thanks
Though I'm not exactly sure how it is compared to base 100 atk
Yo I'm trying to make a nihil team but the only construct I have is nirv so far, should I pull for Ishmael or Luna?
I forgot that was a thing in the shop
Why shouldn't I pull for ish though
Need ish ss3 at least to be on team
Damn
Not very versatile for a new player, and can be obtained from some future event selector.
is the res9nance ok or it need to be either atk or yellow
My ish is ss3 
Who can I sub in for the nihil team then
Except that she is sigless


Just go with any atk
Also put bathlon instead of guin
Sigless Ish is cooked fr
oh i plan to play her in nihil...
oh
4dv 4guin is for SSS
Bathlon dark debuff is converted to universal debuff by luna so they can benefit from it
Any indication her build could change? Don't want another Liv incident
Nirvatia I mean
Nanami/Rosetta/Wata
Preferably 3s wata

She's just support anyway so its either 4dv 4ele shred or 4dv 4guin or ein guin so not that wasteful to build again
is she needed class skill for bottom?
Pfffttt
Yeh
glad i did the right choice now harmony and maybe hypertune?
is she betta than vera for low inves nihil
Ht can skip, support set anyway tho can still ht if have a lot

I used to have a lot until liv happened
Nanami startrail or?
the frederick ppc tech is fixed right?
U lao when
if you mean the qte bot fred thingy, then yes
whats the nirvatia build w ss0 luna and sss wata
4 ele 4 cot any atk/ult
3S nirvatia build for 3S nihil team?
4dv 4guin or 4dv guin ein any atk/class

I'll try today if I get time
my nihill team is ss luna ss3 ish and ss3 nir so should i go with ult or class ?
Class yeh
4dv 4ele
so did nirvatia damage builds fail?
wdym by "fail?"
davincci guinivere means no field time right
alright
yep
unless you dont have any other nihill member, the dps build is meh



Which one should I get?

You have 2 option
• get vera geiravor right now or
• get Rosetta arete when she comes to base banner next patch
Then, let's get her later, but I wasted my black card on this
I hate gacha, I started to 0lay pgr 4 days ago, since I usually get any char on 160 pity wuwa
In pgr, you'll hit a character every 60 pulls guaranteed, so don't sweat it
hi im new as well out of curiosity how much you spend bc on this atm i only done once i might try few more but idk how much price increase
what banner is this?
Fair enough, but ea one cost 15k which is a little bit higher than expected
8k
i got scammed hard on basic 40 one after i saw select later i thought after 40 pulls i get choose but got random XD
What a waste of cards
xDD
take a screenshot
Is Ismael the last one?
I chose alr Ishmael, I would try to get geiravor later
Yea
Ngl, if you only pulled on a beginner, and started recently, I'd reroll an acc.
decent choise
What
How does one select later
its fine im small dolphin

When the s rank select thing can only be used once

Then gone
Until it gets reset every anniversary
Next banner I mean
Yea
You do you ofc. If you end up with someone useful, might be fine.
If it's an old and dead frame, it's quite a waste of valuable resource.
-# also Ishmael is bad choice
Shall I quit the game?
And this, I guess I should have spent my cards on it instead of the stupid beginner package
no, ishmael is good choice
i listen you

💀
i got this one i think hard to keep track haha
Oh well.
She's old and free from dorm.
yay lesson learned the hard way like it wont be last
right i seen some ppl got memory 4x4 while i have only 4x2 does ability unlock later?
Yes, at lv80 you will unlock the ability to harmonize your weapon
-# only to 6* weap
ok
With harmony you can add additional 2pc effect
Woah Oli helper
kay is this perm cause i can see my luck wont bother
Permanent yeah
It is, but a low priority one.
interesting and I wasted alot alr
atm i run these 3 mostly can you reccomnend some memory sets for them or they need few and switch on situations atm i just went for ones shows in reccomended
Is this char good? 
But she is SS 
Don't listen to them she is meta trust me bro
With this treasure I summon
Uninstall
You just start and acc in another region.
I want Eu

is there is an option to play together in this game?
Go to setting > account > account center > other > delete account

There was
Once in a blue moon
Comes coop modes
does alisa echo still needed in any content?
cuz i wanna take her davinci and guin set and give it to nirv
Lao i have a question
Glaciation
Why do you have corn channel in your server
Only
damn it

Go ahead
Rigged zone bruh
Why is it so tanky yet scoring same
Also Why eu 2* more tanky yet same scoring
Yeah don't go to pgr gen rn
Ok bro
You accidentally hid it
Removed from channel list
Oh
Misread it


Shall I use all my black cards, here? For my new acc

No!
U can get her for free
Nvm
Oh….
hell no, she's a free unit. Wait next patch for the next s-rank

if it's a voucher unit, the long way
if it's strictly gacha, then gacha at the expense of future units
I can tell future alpha is gonna be the reason for future players
what black cards
you cant even do 1 pull

which one is better for nirv, 4dv 4guin or 4dv 4ele?
no, just do the weekly missions
The mission resets weekly, be Patient
dont spend ur ticket just to buy them early
Interesting that what I did before deleting my acc
Starting...
So should I save service certificate for the next event or use it to buy dirge sharda?

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What should be nirvatia's best memory resonance?
Deadline timing
Cuz malder need to practice their hand speed
Wtf is that question

No wonder Yoshilao so dalao

genius
"why do you like your wife to be on fursuit when having Segs" type of question
You really need to stop slipping out your inner thoughts paper
Obv the best is resonant echo
Woah thank you
do we know what 2x set she uses with what hypertunes?
She?
nirvatia
4dv and any 4 ele would do the job
what team he running 
sss3 luna and sss0 ishmael

both with sig an cub
thanks!
Whichever scores the highest
went with fire
I like fire with dante 
Loona blind
real
Whel invest

Istg it was wrong gif
sure sure
I believe you
Wanted to use this


Does anyone know where i can find tutorials for optimal warzone rotations?
are we fr
whel harder
on youtube
but it's heavily invest dependent

overseer is a btch if you are f2p
also powered if you don't have rosetta
hmm should I use SSS wata over S feral
I scored a 581
or does he not provide enough in PPC
exactly
usually you ask here
wrong question
is he the correct choice in place of feral
Y nit just use ish
what is the boss
Instead of feral
222?

this broke has 3 ros and no liv cub
who's better as leader
ish or oblivion?
3.133 team
bc I used nihil team for ultima slash ppc
Shut

ish on same invest should be
alright bet
hi gays
To get the last 1k
wata uncooperative last ror
the cockroach
YOU

show us the scores
Its overseer isnt it
like 610k emperor minimum

no point 

finally

im already top 2 and cant promote
without doing nihil
Ayla?..


Absolutely brick
since there is no dark team here
imagine no 600k seer
holup lemme redo it with lilith
let's see if I get sniped
I think I will
also my luna missed a wave because of the hold attack bug 
henlo, what ended up being the best setup for nirvatia? I remember seeing cc's saying there needs to be more testing done when I saw guides on her release day
mine's SS3 so far, Ish and Luna are SSS if it has impact on it
u miss waves, I hit waves but deal 0 dmg

dv guin nirv if planning to sss in the future, atk class
3s void good 
nah you miss too
can do 4guin or 2guin2ein
I do, she shall be SSS in april
thank you <3
I have been trying to fix that run yesterday
whelplay help
Roseblade just tanks it 
for me it's the stupid bear

what does that mean
has to be comical so I don't lose my mind
this hero or legend
legend
she can keep sucking
what
must've been the wind

classic roseblade strike again 
lao that's a bear
it often happened during roseblade spawned/next wave after roseblade dead, for HY ulti too
i mean it related to waves connected to roseblade
han and luna, roseblade's favourites
it's a feature 


lao
raydiance is so bad at low invest

Fund me
Is it that bad without 3S Teddy?
I know she’s probably on her way out but does SSS tank hanying want core passive or tank class skill?
Is nirvitia:dirge or wtv her name is a main dps? And is it okay to pull for her or no? is she good? Also im just starting out
that was 2.0 Crepuscule 2.1 Startrail 3.0 Spectre
Class
she does damage at S+
Idk if thats good..?
unless you're a leviathan, you'd better not pull her
Ah thanks
just keep using trade vouchers up to SSS
Standard banner pulls i presume?
no?
just do not pull her
So homeless
(I don't even hab 3S Teddy)
Poor
I see, who is good there?
on my other alt it's even worse because half stacks only for bianca
can rot thrice to 4x at most depending of the switch
Dorm farmable units
and Epitaph, Spectre, Dirge, Oblivion
can refrain from getting Kaleido and Echo
since they're low prio
We will be distributing commemorative collectible rewards via in-game mail during the "Sunset" update.
your fund here
until kamui patch
Where pulls
Pulls in this economy?
give bcs to buy oil

chat in ss3 nirvatia ss3 ishmael sss luna team would nirvatia use 4 bathlon 4 dv or 4 dv 4 guin
wat invest?
am i washed or this is acceptable for 3s luna ss3 nirv ss3ishmael
Legend
3.02.03.0
unacceptable
damn i'm washed
definitely have a strong feeling you should be able to get higher scores
i need dalao to upload the vid ;_;
still probing when 23 or 33 rots better
oh sorry i forgor i can't read
that's hero
it's my lower invest alt that is on legend
yea, with that kind of invest, aim for wave 48
332 222 with rosetta
My one tap ice got wave 49 
ok r3 whel
whos 2s
my wanshi isn't even class reso wadapak
Wdym it 332.1 222 
rosetta

likely because during teddy 2nd rot, wanshi field already expires that having rosetta qte shred helps with applying tank class
damn f*cking haxlao
wait, shouldn't wanshi go ult reso if paired with rosetta?
idk
because my rosetta has class
I dont even know if I should use red reso on wanshi
is it better to do 3 pistol ult wanshi or 2 pistol ult wanshi?
i'm too lazy to mald, nihil already break my heart
Nihil always cancer
Just replace Luna already
Granny can't even hit drill
Blind ass


It was funny seeing magmadude crash out about it yesterday
I'm noticing that luna qte can miss
Yes
none of them are frauds


Oh shi, I forgot to do wz


I got the extra 13 skulls in the end
Just dont do it
Wat min score to retain rn?
20m

Slacc bracket I told myself
For real?
I'm not the only one who notices it
it's the first qte that typically misses but the 2nd qte (double qte on luna) lands
DBWZ trauma venting on reddit i can't 
slap DV Guin
class reso
switch ein harmo depending of wz mob split
Was it actually that bad

i wrote a smol reply on reddit but no
idk why but for some reason
people kept on grinding on inefficient infinite node for hours everyday while first time rewards were more than enough to clear the stages
even when best "grinding zone" would come much later
@exotic fable

maps looks like this
5 maps
1 unlocked every 5 days or smth like that
each map had a global gimmick
phantom musashi, freeze babel affix, following kuro bomb that could stagger you
etc
each map had 5 stages and 1 "grinding zone"
hello, will nirvatia still works without fully hypertuned for nihil support in WZ?
each stage were stronghold like template so you need to chain up to 5 fight stages in a row
Hell nawh that map again
Yea
Alright tyty
Lao so old
Damn
damn, I remember doing multiple runs a day to try to max the units before the later stages
that's totally inefficient
like ultralimit lvl 12/20 was enough to clear map 5

yet people were grinding to 20 on all their chars
I remember not being in gph during that era
nowadays when we have those 120km mode stage who's grinding the add-on complete pokedex?
besides me
that's the same purpose as grinding to ultralimit 20
it's inefficient
either way, I grinded tf out of the mode just to get selena skin
selena if lucky you got it on map 2
which happened on my main acc
lmfao
Explore the 60 characters of 姜饼 - NA from the North America server of Punishing: Gray Raven.

we'll likely get a new coating for a popular unit by half anniv
so who's gonna be it
How many hours till wz ends again?
they were created at the beginning just to clear deep blue
3 and half
Ah okay
surely 2nd placer wont snipe me
he has more sss units than me
What’s that ice invest
Look pretty doable
332 222 (rosetta is ss)
The cycle of dalao:
Promote leg > demote to hero > "pak whel" > back to leg
Repeat

Isn’t it better to use someone else for 3rd
If rose ss
ss horse better than sss lilith?
yeah more than doable, i truggled more on my main acc which was S + no sig
idk I get worse if I use lilith
than on alt SS+ sig
need another guy to test
I don't even get to legend, too boring
later maps
Also shut up paper


will definitely feel weird with not having consistent shred
Lightning dps garnet 
ignore recommended BP it's as bullshit as story BP warning
Unc how old is this ss?
Newbie propaganda
mind you it was a huge upgrade at that time compared to arclight
December 5th 2022
Do u 2 ult or 3 ult with wanshi
Consistent shred is godsend for Teddy
18-30-12 for the rest of the rot
starter rot I do 6-12 2 ult rot
Ok
Is 2 6 rot genuinely better than minmax 1 12 rot?
maybe it depends if it's hero vs legend?
Or is it just becuz there's bear in early wave
Well 12 stack ult with cub is always overkill anyway for early waves
challenging people to read dmg reflecting shield
or 8s gap weakness
now it's just DPS check
Back then, it was really fun, whenever Stronghold had an update, I would clear it right away
3s teddy acc don't have honse

FAH

In all stages, solo alpha is still the peak.
if it's hero, it's gonna overkill anyway
Overkill ❌
Better dmg allocation ✅
when there was a time ranking
I remember a certain Kigal event where it was difficult for me
you could really see who has the best theorycraft
since it were trial units only
with respective affix/buff
depending on what you've recruited
scarlet woods also DPS checked a lot of people
3yrs ago
that node 44 during roland patch
i have expired streamable links from when i cleared day 1 with underleveled units
cub maxxing where

he has a crush on him
who why
like a maiden
whos fork
ooooh you're tempting me to ping him
Woah
you have my blessing
Fork little brother
lets all cosplay fork
oh i had daylight saving today
no wonder it felt off when pwo said 3:30h left
for wz
lmao i woke up and was confused why i woke up at 12pm

What is best NIRVATIA sss build
What full inv
443
sorry broke
Nergi u wanna test the bot
no lol
Woah Nergiwhel
Hello
What's that
idk

Makes you yellow
With SSS ish and luna, at what rank does nirvatia have to be to outclass SSS lilith
Her ss3 is free
So ss3 nirvatia is better than SSS lilith?
Pretty fast
then must be fine
3 second ish?
Also does dps nirvatia need dlt

Nirv would be support in that team isn’t she
dps nvidia doesn't exist
below 3s yes
Apparently it does if ss0 ish
does
Mines dps lol
How did you know
who tf has ss0 ish
You phat whel
cuz
Me
You know nothing about low invest

How Laovisha
what the
I'm sorry fraud
You hab 3S honse anyway

I sss nanami with selector instead of ss3 ish
















