📨・meta-help

[true pivot]

try it where?

[woeful root]

I mean

[slim falcon]

tb

[woeful root]

You can check if she can 1 shot him

At least

[lunar dove]

I don't know tbh...

[outer ravine]

PPC and WZ are very different things btw

[woeful root]

No shet

[outer ravine]

So tests on one side wouldn't work on the other

[woeful root]

Who's testing in PPC for WZ sets anyway

[carmine roost]

You can make it work if you're genius

[plain oyster]

K lao

[median spade]

where is our dps test dummy mode like genshin has

smh kuso

[woeful root]

[plain oyster]

[median spade]

ken my favorite helper #ken4mod

[carmine roost]

Ikr

#ken4mod
#unbanken

[true pivot]

wat

ken is banned?

[woeful root]

Imagine getting banned

[true pivot]

k lao

[carmine roost]

Who ever said I'm the genius

I'm too silly for ts

[woeful root]

U

[carmine roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1091468938140983357.gif?size=48

[muted zenith]

can you write the rot for them?

[median spade]

you better pay nuke to do that if you can't do it yourself you lazy bum

[carmine roost]

I'll pay him with smooches and huggies

[muted zenith]

my eyes cannot track the speed of moves being pressed by avg pgr user

[plain oyster]

[outer ravine]

Slow video down

Ez

[muted zenith]

and sadly i m not an uchiha nor do i have all seeing eyes of god

or 6 eyes

[carmine roost]

Fate

[muted zenith]

or other bs eye power

[carmine roost]

Do you want to get paid with smooches and huggies too?

:3

[muted zenith]

doesnt halp i tried it before

[plain oyster]

[carmine roost]

It's 10 pm

Nighty night oomfie

[median spade]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-smell-jetavie-pgr-punishing-gray-raven-gif-10591488456402950688

[outer ravine]

If even slowing the video down doesn't help it might really be skill issue

Ngl

[plain oyster]

[muted zenith]

yeah

[outer ravine]

Time to put that game down

[echo current]

Luna now a qte bot?

[median spade]

you should try out genshin impact, simpler rots there for the most part

eq basics

[echo current]

You'd rather play candy crush than that slop

[median spade]

@true pivot skirk esco waiting room

[muted zenith]

ewww

i'd rather drink h2so4

[median shell]

[noble zinc]

Tomorrow a bit busy now

[muted zenith]

np man, thanks

[true pivot]

wtfrick whel

[graceful summit]

I'd rather drink dihydrogen monoxide

[muted zenith]

whya re people using lilith with Teddy and Wanshi?

[radiant panther]

Acid 💀

[radiant panther]

Better?? Probably

[graceful summit]

Cuz

Q* is sht

So there's one open member slot

[muted zenith]

?????????????????????????????

[graceful summit]

Qu

[plain oyster]

[muted zenith]

who tf uses Qu ever since 2024?

[graceful summit]

Huh

Ice team exist

[muted zenith]

teddy replaced Qu

teddy wanshi ayla

[graceful summit]

What do you solo wanshi before teddy then

[muted zenith]

rosetta if you got SSS

[muted zenith]

i had SSS Qu so i used her

[fluid gulch]

solo wanshi

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

[graceful summit]

Not all people have sss ayla dude

Not worth 3s her

Now

[fluid gulch]

Not worth even getting her now

[lunar dove]

Well... Not worth upgrading her. Getting Ayla is free so free stuff is good

[true pivot]

lilith is also free

[muted zenith]

but why do you not have SSS ayla

she has been free like since....2024?

[true pivot]

Liv_scrajj

[graceful summit]

Cuz I didn't play in 2024?

[muted zenith]

did you join pgr after WW/DMC collab happened?

[graceful summit]

Like what

[lunar dove]

Because I've focused on building other characters

[graceful summit]

There's better char to 3s at the time

Than ayla

[lunar dove]

No... Joined before

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/946772686275768340.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[plain oyster]

[mighty tusk]

maybe you can test the builds dalao

[muted zenith]

nvidia hater pinning this post

[fluid gulch]

Manifest nihil zone for him then

[lunar dove]

Nihil Team Comp is ez: Ish, Luna and Nirvatia

[mighty tusk]

next week should be obvious

[fluid gulch]

Imagine if theres no nihil zone next week

https://tenor.com/view/kilgore-trout-vonnegut-pgr-gif-4279542929829929692

[plain oyster]

[mighty tusk]

works for me
I wont be getting sss nirv anytime soon

[echo current]

Nirvatia is hot

[wind hemlock]

[outer ravine]

Don't jinx it

[fluid gulch]

Works perfect for me

Idk if I will be back in hero next week

[median spade]

there always is zone for debuting character either same week or week after

[fluid gulch]

[graceful summit]

Well it's never too late to be the first to anything

[fluid gulch]

Then Nirvatia will be the first one

[fluid gulch]

Will fit how shiet she is

[plain oyster]

[lunar dove]

I gotta ask though
With the current tests that has been happening: what is the current idea for a more general build for Nirvatia?

[plain oyster]

There's a test?

[spiral merlin]

testing on what content

[plain oyster]

[median spade]

testing where bro

just wait

sig cottie there you go, build it and regret it later

[spiral merlin]

dv guin / dv sig / cot sig who knows ishsob

and more i cant care to list

[lunar dove]

Wow... Forget I asked

[median spade]

okay

[fluid gulch]

Nah I won't forget

[jade timber]

I just went sig cottie😭

[fluid gulch]

I will remember it for the rest of my life

[jade timber]

Seemed to work on 90% of my other frames

[median spade]

my first hat in this stupid domain @true pivot

[spiral merlin]

void is in a weird spot

all units are capable of keeping up with each other

we're not used to this

[median spade]

hear me out, dv-less team

[spiral merlin]

likely not happening now with qte nuke + breaker

[true pivot]

lucky bastard

[median spade]

if i was lucky id have full set by now

[stray siren]

Nirvatia info so dead, that we're talking about Genshin

[median spade]

i love genshin impact

[stray siren]

Best open world ngl

[outer ravine]

Can't do any testing so why not

[peak halo]

Do u think nirv able to play and dealt enought dmg if dv ?

[ripe stag]

On another note
Here's my Wuling factory

[spiral merlin]

yes

[ripe stag]

It can't grow anymore

[spiral merlin]

nirv is strong af

[peak halo]

So nirv dv cottie guin possible

[spiral merlin]

dv, sig, cottie, guin, all viable options

[peak halo]

[spiral merlin]

mix and match

we can test next week

just make sure dv is there

[ripe stag]

1 dv 1 Cottie 1 guin 1 Eins 1 shakes 1 Sig

[peak halo]

Pak kuro
We need infinite ht source

[spiral merlin]

kekw~3

[ripe stag]

[spiral merlin]

steal ht mem from other units

[peak halo]

Donno if i can

Cottie sure

Dv donno

[ripe stag]

She can do 2 full rot without Cottie

[median spade]

just move vera's support set over for testing

[ripe stag]

Outside of amp passive ofcourse

[peak halo]

Wait my doggo dv still un use

So if no cott 1 ult

[lunar dove]

Weapon Resonance must have at least DLT right?

[peak halo]

Or its around 10-11s?

[ripe stag]

Without Cottie not possible

With Cottie sure

but then 1 ult won't have the heart buff

[peak halo]

Pak kuro ur chara design

[graceful summit]

Just

Pak kuro

[median spade]

pak kuro pgr team

[graceful summit]

Shred doko

[peak halo]

Simple and more effective

[sonic tide]

Nice shred bro

[noble zinc]

[plain oyster]

[sonic tide]

[true pivot]

@median spade im gonna cry, losing all 50/50s

[peak halo]

[brittle raptor]

Hey guys, lets say I have an SS Attacker and an SSS+ Amplifier next to it, yall think overall its still better to go for 2 piece support set on the Amplifier or I can go with some dmg two piece on the Amplifier?

[peak halo]

I guess u can go for full dps

[brittle raptor]

Ight bet, tysm

[median spade]

my condolences

[keen sable]

why nirvata set look so trash

teddy alot stronger set

[stray siren]

It depends on what Fatal Kiss and Death promises are, and its base damage

[keen sable]

still a bad set

[steady otter]

nvidia kiss

[keen sable]

[steady otter]

i want

[keen sable]

bananas

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-gif-7954645047987041501

[median spade]

50% on both seems pretty strong tbh

[coarse laurel]

*i wonder if she actually uses it *

[feral flume]

Line up bro me first tho

[upbeat orchid]

I have SS3 Lilith, SS3 Geiravor, SS3 Oblivion, SSS Watanabe Epitath, SS Rosetta and SS3 Ishmael.
With the new Nirvatia Dirge, what should my Nihil team look like?

[steady otter]

day 1

[keen sable]

[brittle raptor]

Wait at that point shouldnt I just throw out the Attacker and use the Amplifier as a main dps?

[plain oyster]

Vera mdps on fire even with ss3 lucia

[wind hemlock]

When the amplifier does so much more damage than the attacker that its better to just use a 2nd amp or 3S tank in the team

Which is the case of ice

[brittle raptor]

Ight but if I wanna use Nirvitia main dps then what third is suitable there for nihil team?

[plain oyster]

[brittle raptor]

This game is so hard 😔

[wind hemlock]

We dont know

[brittle raptor]

Yeaaaa I saw the pins

[wind hemlock]

No nihil warzone to test

[simple dew]

nihil team is hard stuck ishmael + luna + nvidia

[barren plank]

We are still working out the details, and if non-SSS Ishmael is worth keeping in the team

[simple dew]

low inc ish might be replaceable if sss wata/rosetta

[wind hemlock]

Confirmed?

[vernal saddle]

guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuys... if i build arete rosetta DPS i must have her signature?

[coarse laurel]

didnt u quit tho

[barren plank]

I did

Though I still maintain the teams chart

[plain oyster]

Yes

[vernal saddle]

zamn

:(

[brittle raptor]

To the people who already put stuff on Nirvatia, what lower resonance yall put? Sig dmg or core passive?

[wise axle]

class skil 👀

idk tho, i could be wrong

[brittle raptor]

Hmmm

[sly geyser]

holy sht

[umbral yoke]

is it better to use 1 fast ult and 1 regular ult on teddy or 2 regulars (ss7 wanshi)

[sly geyser]

i understand now

[umbral yoke]

sig

[teal charm]

Hello for teddy:spectre,where to place the 2set chen jiyuan for hypertune?top or bottom?

[brittle raptor]

Ight Ima take 4 sig 2 core then I think

[umbral yoke]

either works, i place mine top

[eternal peak]

[teal charm]

Ok thanks

[sly geyser]

segs time

[umbral yoke]

doomed, rest in pieces

[eternal peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1316155485589606538/1428352151272558734/upgrade_liv.gif

[brittle raptor]

You think I should just got with 6 sig too? 😭

[umbral yoke]

very

[brittle raptor]

Ight

I'll listen to you

You seem very wise

Thank you

[umbral yoke]

wait till it turns out that she needs 6x qte for some magical reason, you can hate me then

[brittle raptor]

I'll use her as main dps so it will either be 6 core or 6 sig for me still

[brittle raptor]

But I still wouldnt hate you, I love anyone who tries to help me by answer a question of mine, or anything really ☺️

[umbral yoke]

[wanton hatch]

brick help

[umbral yoke]

[wanton hatch]

6condelina trust

[umbral yoke]

so many people starting to upload "Complete Nirvatia Guides" already, i'm not trusting any of this

[wanton hatch]

Klaige best guide maker

[plain oyster]

[plain oyster]

[wanton hatch]

Fate make guide

[plain oyster]

No

[umbral yoke]

doomed info

[wanton hatch]

how to brick account on new construct release tutorial

[umbral yoke]

wait that's kinda fire content, i might make that

[wanton hatch]

btw what df score u get with that 222 cope team

[plain oyster]

What 222

[umbral yoke]

what's a df

[wanton hatch]

what comp u use

[plain oyster]

232

[wanton hatch]

liv rose?

[plain oyster]

Liv ros vera

[umbral yoke]

oh darkflow

[wanton hatch]

fat fk 3s rose

wut score got

[plain oyster]

It was sht one tap
6.3

[wanton hatch]

whar

leggy?

[plain oyster]

I can't really sp delay so lag

Df lag

Light was fine

[wanton hatch]

hero or leg

[rotund fox]

6.7

[plain oyster]

Hero

[wanton hatch]

I give up rose wata vera highest I got was 6.9 idk what was happening

time to touch grass

[rotund fox]

@cunning solar

[plain oyster]

[median shell]

[noble zinc]

@normal sierra

You halp

Orb did not come down to 5

Yet got cub skill

[safe delta]

does the normal sets (e.g. heisen) works on nvidia?

[ripe stag]

For now I'll say don't build her
Let the memory sets get tested and then build

Wasting mats will only harm your account

[simple dew]

ba > blaze dodge > hdodge > blaze spam?

[noble zinc]

3p was done somewhere there

That can't find

[simple dew]

3p > ult?

doesnt blaze fill cub skill

[noble zinc]

Dosent

[simple dew]

[slate gull]

nvidia need dlt?

[lunar dove]

DLT is good for everyone

[slate gull]

lol no

[simple dew]

teddy

loona

honse

[valid juniper]

loona

[ripe stag]

Not really if you know to rotate I think
One rot definitely doesn't
2 rots can be done without it too

[slate gull]

okay teach how to rotate

[simple dew]

still need wata input?

[ripe stag]

Who knows

[simple dew]

||wait till nihil zone||

[ripe stag]

My Nirvatia ain't built

[noble zinc]

Yea or need to go classic slow one

[ripe stag]

Wait till Nihil zone

[slate gull]

aright

[valid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/asus-msi-obi-wan-sith-destroy-gif-18039908123598928186

Reminder

[slate gull]

i wonder who will be dv holder

[gusty summit]

Big

[ripe stag]

I have an idea

Flock effect yeah

[slate gull]

ish?

[simple dew]

3p > ult > ba > blaze > dodge > 3p > hdodge > blaze spam

[gusty summit]

Idk why I SSS-ed Niv but hopefully no regretti

[ripe stag]

Yep it's solid 30% + 40% (SSS)

70% buff at SSS0 total if full Nihil

[barren plank]

Wait

Does SSS not increase Flock buff to 30% anymore

Did they change that in the Live version?

[simple dew]

it was in beta

since v1

[ripe stag]

Flock effect base is 15%
Sig increases it to 30%
SS3 and SSS0 increases the normal Void Collapse by 10% each

[valid juniper]

How much difference does SS make from S in wz

[simple dew]

someone misinfod durning beta and everyone went along with it

[ripe stag]

If it doesn't explicitly say it increases flock effect it's not increasing flock

[simple dew]

and noone bothered to read weiss doc

[ripe stag]

If it actually does though

That'll be insane

But it doesn't

[stray ravine]

Guys what should i use on Nirvatia 4 piece davinci or 4 piece bulgakov? Idk with one is ovr better for her

[simple dew]

wait till next weeeeeek

[slate gull]

wth

[simple dew]

@noble zinc yea its this

[barren plank]

Oh wait nvm

[valid juniper]

Vera with 2 bigger power

[barren plank]

What's the likeliness it was Naru

[slate gull]

99%

[noble zinc]

But dodge bar got consumed once

[slate gull]

he cheating bro

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1221466146449002576.png?size=48

[wanton hatch]

take off the cloth kuro

ik you can do it

[slate gull]

they probably have already (unreleased)

[barren plank]

Wait who tf said SSS doubled the buff then

[slate gull]

you?

[stray ravine]

Anyone? I dont want to regret if i choose wrong

[valid juniper]

We just need to give them more whels

[ripe stag]

@barren plank thanks for reminding

[noble zinc]

@stray ravine

[stray ravine]

Why tho?

[simple dew]

nowhere to test

[fluid gulch]

Why even explain

[gusty summit]

Yo uh how much diff is a S Ish vs SS Ish

[simple dew]

needed to be playable

and probably be benched

[fluid gulch]

sig + ss0 is bare minimum to be playable

[gusty summit]

So im screwed for now until a confirm replacement

[simple dew]

if qte bot scenario then just sig

[ripe stag]

Imagine if Flock was actually increased like people claimed by SS3 and SSS0 along with the heal buff

That will be 35 + 35 + 40...........110% buff if full Nihil.

Doesn't sound practical does it?

[barren plank]

I thought it was only buffed at SSS

[valid juniper]

A genuine question how much difference does SS char make from S in WZ?

[simple dew]

ss is playable rights

[valid juniper]

oke

[gusty summit]

Okay guess ill try to cough up a ish somewhere

Next week

[ripe stag]

KURO PLEASE LEARN HOW TO WORD THINGS CONSISTENTLY

[valid juniper]

[ripe stag]

THAT LITERALLY MAKES IT SOUND LIKE IT BUFFS FLOCK

BUT IN REALITY IT'S JUST THE NORMAL HEAL BUFF

[simple dew]

@noble zinc whats the point of that 2nd 3p

[noble zinc]

Deer edb

For vera

[simple dew]

dark magic

[noble zinc]

This wave chain need

Or wave 11 clear impossible

[simple dew]

deer edb i get it

this sorcery is beyond my understanding

cancel 2 moves with 1 dodge

[noble zinc]

[simple dew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1220143716053024968.png?size=48

[noble zinc]

Will help massively if can get

Wata 6 blaze everytime

Fire weather puro weather that too

[simple dew]

just do 2 dodges

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1381208071753302026.png?size=48

[noble zinc]

Perfect ending can't get

[simple dew]

faster sp delay

[noble zinc]

Mine seems good enough idk if any possible fix liv sp delay

[simple dew]

it would be useful if mobile could go frame by frame

[noble zinc]

Or faster

[simple dew]

and if wata wasnt pixelated

tf am i supposed to do with this

[median spade]

ive got the perfect places to play nirv!

[noble zinc]

Seems deleted rec will give higher quality if happens again

[simple dew]

watapak 3p without dodging?

[wanton hatch]

why he hacking

ban

[simple dew]

whats the point of that camera unga bunga with wata

[noble zinc]

I feel power

[simple dew]

yea i give up

no clue

[noble zinc]

This normal do nd some misinput that faster version happens

[simple dew]

yea but he pings blaze before 3p

here its 3p ba blazes

prev vid its blaze 3p blazes

[noble zinc]

Ah yea

Now seeing that

[simple dew]

blaze ▅ 3p hold dodge blazes

[brittle herald]

Hey guys, i remembered that i has that S-Rank Omniframe Choice Pack and i wonder if I should try to do a Dark team with Daemonissa or an Ice team with Wanshi LD first ? Since i got the Lightning and Nihil team ready

[wind hemlock]

Ice team should be easier to make since both Wanshi and Teddy are free

Dark is cooked without Arete

[eternal peak]

[median spade]

and some people still deny fate

[brittle herald]

Teddy is free ? Noice, is she supp or dps ? Should I pull Qu:Shukra ?

[outer ravine]

She's amp but main dps

No need Qu

[fluid gulch]

both

[brittle herald]

So, who is the third member of the ice team ?

[noble zinc]

@plain oyster pak fate

[valid juniper]

Ayla

[fluid gulch]

Vera or Lilith

[eternal peak]

PGR: where a buffer can do more dmg than a dps

[outer ravine]

Any other amp or arete

[median spade]

fate is the best

[outer ravine]

More like where anyone can be a dps

[valid juniper]

#blameFate

[noble zinc]

[fluid gulch]

k whel

[eternal peak]

Or that

[floral fable]

Yikes

[ripe stag]

2 Serious women
And
A silly graffiti girl

[floral fable]

1 serious woman and 2 very unserious women that are really good at acting

[wanton hatch]

larp

[valid juniper]

I want the graffiti along with the artist

[upbeat orchid]

For the Dark team, I've been using SS Bianca|SS3 Lilith|SS Rosetta
Should I replace one of them with SSS Watanabe Epitath?

[wanton hatch]

replace Bica

[ripe stag]

SSS Lilith and KICK Bianca out

[upbeat orchid]

I don't have SSS Lilith, only SS3

[ripe stag]

SSS her

[upbeat orchid]

I can't

Lmao

I wish I could

[ripe stag]

Suffer with Bianca

[simple dew]

DESPAIR. LAMENT. WORSHIP ME.

[valid juniper]

You are homeless? Buy a house

[ripe stag]

No

[upbeat orchid]

Wait do I not replace SS Bianca with SSS Watanabe if I don't have SSS Lilith?

[ripe stag]

Here take Fluorite

[ripe stag]

No

You don't have enough damage on your Lilith

[upbeat orchid]

Alright, thank you

[ripe stag]

That's Snek

INSANELY HOT GREEN SNAKE

[ripe stag]

With questionable full body strap

https://tenor.com/view/fluorite-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-no-no-gif-17903068594839167665

[sterile plank]

i am dead

[ripe stag]

Same

No

[spiral delta]

hi dead

[ripe stag]

Just turn off your phone

And sleep

[sterile plank]

still on

?

[ornate zealot]

r1 nirva a must? 🤔

[hybrid veldt]

What’s reso for new unit? Att sig or att class?

[simple dew]

her reso is ||next week||

[hybrid veldt]

Ok. Sig 4 Bath 4, right?

[unkempt idol]

Hello can i still get the free S Rank Selector?

[noble zinc]

Can't

[keen sable]

nirvata 6danvci holder?

[noble zinc]

Luna qte super slow that very unlikely

Next week wair

Wait

[simple dew]

have you seen a nihil zone

[eternal peak]

So wtf am i gonna do with her?
Just let her collecting dust?

[keen sable]

yea in my dreams

[simple dew]

[noble zinc]

Next video going to expose this mf wata

[keen sable]

my wata is ss3

[languid elbow]

Should I main dps Nirvatia if She's SSS while Ishmael and Luna are SS?

[orchid owl]

probably
only time will tell tho

like SSS luna beats SSS ishmael in dps with leap
I guess maybe she beats ishmael at SS aswell with leap? but wouldn't be equal to or better than an SSS nirvatia

you either test it yourself or wait for dalaos

[barren plank]

Hard to say rn

[surreal galleon]

Is the Bulghakov/Guinevere set really inferior to the Davinci/Guinevere set for Nirvatia.

Context: I have a SS3 Luna and SS3 Ishmael, and I do intend to do the same for Nirvatia

[real jackal]

wait, for real? i have sss leap luna with ss3 ish. should i be using luna as the dmg dealer in neutral ppc stages like trailblazer then?

[pale yew]

if nirvatia isnt on field and you dont have anyone running DV, this kind of answers itself

[surreal galleon]

I always forget about pins! Ever Since Discord Changed

[noble zinc]

It dosent work like that

[surreal galleon]

Umm...how do we access the pins again?

[noble zinc]

Nvm it's just wait a bit we don't have nihil zone to test thing s

[surreal galleon]

Nevermind I found it

Yah, I suppose I'll just wait. Maybe finally finish building Vera. And Veronica

[stray siren]

One month

[orchid owl]

can use either
but yeah SSS luna will clear all stages, SS3 ishmael might be tight on hell

[simple dew]

one year along with honse slash build

[orchid owl]

or if you just want to get 1.8 mil you can use either, both clear under 10 seconds even if you are sloppy

[noble zinc]

Another bug bout to spawn with next ts zone

[simple dew]

this time mobs have phys weakness instead of slash

[orchid owl]

here ref @real jackal https://youtu.be/eTxcImNLYXA

[simple dew]

malding ppc in 2026

[orchid owl]

used ishmael for hell
and luna for knight, chaos
but rotation is the same for all stages for both

[clear plinth]

if my ish is only SS0 and I have modern tanks like Nanami and Rosetta at higher ranks, would it make sense to replace her with one of them and just rotate Nirvatia and Luna as the damage dealers

[orchid owl]

by higher rank you mean SSS?

[clear plinth]

my nanami is SSS and my Rosetta is SS3

[orchid owl]

yeah then nanami

[clear plinth]

alr

[orchid owl]

or wata

any SSS rank tank

but take my advice with a grain of salt

idk anything about nirvatia

just talking out of my ass

but technically speaking SS ishmael wouldn't see the light of day if we are talking about SSS nirvatia and luna

[clear plinth]

I mean there's no wz but ive been bullying the training dummy for a while and it looks like her damage is better than SS0 Ishmael

[orchid owl]

testing is good but training dummy is not a war zone

you have to account for the fact that double elemental memory might not seem to make a difference since the dummy doesn't die soon

[simple dew]

ss0 ish has no dmg to begin with

[orchid owl]

though for nihil it doesn't matter ig, not using any elemental memories since there's no nihil version

[clear plinth]

I've been wanting to replace her badly she feels so weak

[simple dew]

luna stopped existing

[orchid owl]

that's just SS0 tbh

SS3 and up is

[clear plinth]

All i really use ishmael for at this point is for lightning amp

[orchid owl]

as an SSS ishmael owner I love my ishmael

[simple dew]

🫃

[orchid owl]

she is far from her glory days though

like when she released luna was washed

even at equal invest

leap flipped the script

[clear plinth]

The way the update was on a monday and they didn't run a nihil wz so people could test Nirvatia in a real environment

so now we have to wait out the full week

[simple dew]

didnt glacio have it worse

atleast globlul

[noble zinc]

Watch mob nihil next week

Sea getting -360 fluc

Ching choong +390

[outer ravine]

Wasn't it mob nihil last week?

[cursive mason]

so currently if I have SS3 Ish, SSS3 Luna and SS3 Nirvatia (planning to get SSS with voucher reset) would I put Ishmael on qte bot duty?

[orchid owl]

likely but can't say anything for now unless you bring some testing to the table

[clear plinth]

tbh i already gave Nirvatia 4 sig 4 cottie 6 atk 6 ult if it turns out another build is better oh well

[orchid owl]

also is this mode supposed to be the one where you can "execute" enemies?

[simple dew]

only on wata

[orchid owl]

they really baited us

[simple dew]

the other 3 is just x chara on steroids

[clear plinth]

oh also

[clear plinth]

is SS0 Pyro washed to the point where i should just run double amp and make Vera the carry

[orchid owl]

yes

[clear plinth]

or is she still good enough to keep

I see...

[orchid owl]

if you have SSS dante you can use him instead of pyro

[simple dew]

depends on invest

[orchid owl]

or SS3 dante

I use dante in fire wz

[split sail]

Is it confirmed SS3 ish is better than SSS wata for Nihil?

[rotund fox]

Citrus is it possible for me to survive in the same leg bracket as Laovisha?

[simple dew]

have you seen any nihil

[orchid owl]

nothing is confirmed

[orchid owl]

I don't know how good levisha is

the bigger malder wins

[split sail]

Nope just got in here after patch, haven't been paying attention for a while

Thought beta ppl might know but dunno how diff current release is from beta

[orchid owl]

lmao how naive

[clear plinth]

My acc is kinda bricked because I have SS0 Hanying and SS0 Pyro and at this point theyre both so old so there's no point in going for ranks so im stuck with them until they get replaced

[simple dew]

pyro never benched

[orchid owl]

I am SS3 pyro and SS3 hanying owner
hate both with a passion

hanying was good until selena came along
turns out she can't do what a tank's supposed to these days

[orchid owl]

and with no leap..

she ded

[orchid owl]

gotta love it
all health bars gone, but 1 mob is still there with max HP

[clear plinth]

I have Selena SS3 but SS0 Hanying and I skipped Veronica so she still hits like a wet napkin

[orchid owl]

not a vero issue

[noble zinc]

Skipped vero

[orchid owl]

hanging issue

[noble zinc]

Nice

[orchid owl]

hanging has no shred field so she only shreds on QTE or on-field

[split sail]

Wish I skipped vero

[orchid owl]

and since waves die after a tank shreds them, you gotta choose between squishy wave or tank ass wave

shred this wave or the next?

[orchid owl]

not only did I not skip vero
I went SSS

worth it for ignition
but she feels like an S0 unit in phys

[noble zinc]

[split sail]

Ignition still feels like garbo tbh, IB seems worse at ss0 vs SS3 nana solo

[noble zinc]

Ib sss or nope

That's how it is now

[split sail]

But yeah wz is a lil better

[orchid owl]

ignition with vero is king

[split sail]

Would've rather spent the BC from wep and pull on getting nana to sss tbb

[clear plinth]

Kamui fire break affix true slash pls take out two birds with one stone

[split sail]

How much did it boost your wz score? I know I play bad but only got like +1m with ss0 r2 Vero instead of soloing SS3 r2 nana

[orchid owl]

SS0 vero is nothing in ignition

like you need SS3-SSS to really feel it

also idk how much it boosted my score, I didn't compare but it felt incredible

it was definitely better than what nana was

[clear plinth]

At this point who doesnt need SS3 or SSS to really feel it

[orchid owl]

well let me rephrase
SS0 vero in ignition is like her phys performance

[split sail]

Well yeah ss3/sss better feel impactful lol

[split sail]

Yeah feels like scam

[noble zinc]

Burn bettwr

[orchid owl]

if you read what her SS3-SSS passives are

it's crazy

you get like a multiplier per stack

[noble zinc]

Phy is just there for nothing

[orchid owl]

for your damage

[clear plinth]

So if i plan to ignore burn forever ... does that mean i stick with Alisa forever

[noble zinc]

Yeah

[orchid owl]

what

[noble zinc]

Unless going full meta sss nana does it fine as well

Solo

[clear plinth]

I was gonna go for Veronica on the next standard banner anniversary reset but

if shes THAT bad in phys without ranks

ill keep Alisa

[simple dew]

vero leap trust

[orchid owl]

but what does alisa have to do with vero burn

[split sail]

Yeah I suspect I should've just spent my Vero bc on nana ss3->sss instead

[noble zinc]

My SS0 just trash burn sometimes that's it

Near Same score sss nana can do as well

Phy I use echo

[clear plinth]

I was just asking if I should never bother getting Veronica if im ok with skipping burn wz

[orchid owl]

yeah

[noble zinc]

15kbc/R2/ss cub/hyper mats/wpn reso

[simple dew]

me vero ss0 r0 lingya shed op right

[split sail]

Yeah 22.5k bc and two resos wasted, other mats at least are more replacable/marginal

[noble zinc]

Bonca be another case

Liv fraud too

Least she fun

Compared to vero or bonca

[split sail]

at least bonca can cling on to ray/plasma for now

[orchid owl]

[split sail]

what are the chances they make alpha another fraud attacker

[orchid owl]

truer words have never been spoken

[orchid owl]

can't rule it out

[simple dew]

67%-99%

[split sail]

whats the last good attacker we had

[final fog]

Feet

[simple dew]

liv kinda?

[split sail]

at ss0?

[orchid owl]

ngl cw

[simple dew]

ss0 kinda 🚮

[orchid owl]

you could say shukra aswell, for the time

but cw was game changer

[noble zinc]

I like/hate sp delay

[split sail]

cw just came at good time in the update sched i guess, big gap in lightning units

until nana made her fraud again

[noble zinc]

Pyro for me

Selena too

[orchid owl]

you forget nana didn't make only her a fraud

everyone was a fraud at that point
nana was too good

[split sail]

pyro was good but i guess sync shortened her life, and selena has hanying curse

[noble zinc]

[orchid owl]

selena also got the phys curse

imo pyro is horrible
but that's just because I don't like her mechanics

[noble zinc]

I found so much while playing with her

Still enjoy

[split sail]

i like that her rotations are more legitimately interesting/varying than smth like vera

[noble zinc]

Leap need

[split sail]

vera's pure mechanics check it feels like

[simple dew]

[orchid owl]

really just down to knowing what to dodge cancel

and when to pop her ult

I liked lilith a lot

[split sail]

what's been annoying to me is how affix rots are often identical to 'main' rots now, other than toggling the team type or holding ult

[orchid owl]

main rots?

[split sail]

yeah lilith interesting

like vera/wata fire/df rots are same, just hold ult

[orchid owl]

I think that's fine

[split sail]

scire and cw were cooler ways to implement, if only they made it consistent and with real dmg

[orchid owl]

affixes shouldn't have been implemented in the first place

[boreal lynx]

is sss3 a decent increase for nirvatia

[orchid owl]

surely

[simple dew]

cw is just spam orbs durning 1 move

or hold smth

[split sail]

at least it looks diff

[simple dew]

[normal sierra]

yea, Bonkerina was cool, pray for 3 reds, then pray for 3-4x 3 pings as well or 🧱
so much fun

[split sail]

if only they made it consisten
can u read

[orchid owl]

too true

[simple dew]

hes globlul leave him alone

[orchid owl]

I remember
"hey guys, here's plasma"
it was just karenina suffering for 5 minutes to get her 3 red

[rotund fox]

Why Numberlao kept getting bullied

@normal sierra

[normal sierra]

no, cuz that makes no sense
you say it was fun, but then immediately proceed to diss it kek

[orchid owl]

he has a name
the famous
Henry Joe

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/tear-apart-tear-tear-paper-cut-paper-sky-castle-gif-3191668327381833946

[split sail]

the different move and animation can be cool while being poorly implmeneted lol, makes tons of sense if you know that multiple things can be true

[rotund fox]

@golden merlin is this you?

[simple dew]

hyperlee leap when

[split sail]

nanamech leap when

[simple dew]

ploom leap when

[orchid owl]

no..

that's joe bob

this is henry joe

ppc champion

dalao

he has many titles

[normal sierra]

no, only one can be true
and it's that all affixes are 🚮 from the get go

[simple dew]

except glacio

[rotund fox]

Why is his name 123456789

[orchid owl]

[normal sierra]

no exceptions

[orchid owl]

why is your name Paper?

are you that disposable?

[rotund fox]

No idea

[wind hemlock]

[rotund fox]

[simple dew]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-goldberg-you-you-netflix-you-on-netflix-penn-badgley-gif-13243399

[orchid owl]

so true
should've just brought back uniframes

still waiting for roland leap

[simple dew]

nvidia nihil uniframe

[orchid owl]

I don't understand what's happening but I'm somehow winning

[simple dew]

just pick whatever had big numbers

[rotund fox]

Just get as much money as you can

Be like the jew—

[orchid owl]

they really capitalized on "ish"

[noble zinc]

[real jackal]

sss shukra good for anything? randomly got her from blue banner.

[orchid owl]

nah

maybe some ppc runs

but you don't need 6s ppc run now to be able to keep up with new characters

[real jackal]

fkin rip

[reef sapphire]

Whats the best build for nirvatia? Is it her signature memory set or davinci + guinevere? And what is her resonances?

[worthy widget]

U shall get the answer next week

[reef sapphire]

Why next week?

[worthy widget]

Cuz

No testing can be done

Without any modes

[noble zinc]

[worthy widget]

Can I replace unc with rose for df

[noble zinc]

Equal invest only

[worthy widget]

My rose 3s my unc homeless

[noble zinc]

Should do

3s honse real good

[worthy widget]

6dv 2 eins?

[noble zinc]

What full inv

[worthy widget]

232 221 liv rose vera

[noble zinc]

Don't know

[worthy widget]

Me too homeless

[noble zinc]

Wut 3s honse but 2srest doin

[worthy widget]

Uhhh

I spent 50 on rose

And got lucky

For 3s

[noble zinc]

Fk whel

[worthy widget]

Ik u not talking bro

[noble zinc]

Me f3p

[worthy widget]

[noble zinc]

Think maybe your honse can near cap SS0 liv dmg

Idk

Been too long played ss0

Builds can't guess

[worthy widget]

U play ss0 for like a day lemme guess

[noble zinc]

What better

for content yes

[worthy widget]

[noble zinc]

Low invest get good views

High invest don't

[worthy widget]

Wonder why

[worthy widget]

[noble zinc]

But ching chong high invest get good views

Low invest don't

[worthy widget]

Who would even be the support in my comp

[noble zinc]

2siv don't have time stop

That problem

Honse dmg will also be noticable

Cuz 3s

Vera SS0 prob will be weakest

Not sure again

Or can do classic 232 rot as well

For df

Double long liv 2 rot vera

No sig memo honse needs over pings

If using sig memo prob can fit one rot honse as well but will time bleed

[worthy widget]

What if I just play dark and see what happens

Df has a small dark zone buff right

[noble zinc]

Can try

[worthy widget]

Damn

Why it gotta be df bruh

[orchid owl]

is this morgan

[noble zinc]

Tsk

-700k compared to highest boss seems it

Seems fine

Now

[worthy widget]

Y 99% hp

Malding hp

[noble zinc]

Ye this not perfect run

More need to play

12 seems possible

Or 11.99 smthing will get stuck again

[deft apex]

no it's margaret

morigan is the crow

[orchid owl]

who

[orchid owl]

I know I thought he can transform into cute anime girl

[deft apex]

random person no. 1 bazillion

[worthy widget]

Nuke what’s ur yt

[noble zinc]

nuke0174

[merry cobalt]

Whou should I upgrade or pull? Based on my roster

[worthy widget]

Get Luna ss and leaped

Vergil legit has no team

Get Veronica to ss too ig

[merry cobalt]

What S rank weapon should I get in the selector?

[worthy widget]

Not sure

Ask the whel

[orchid owl]

Which one

[merry cobalt]

I had two selector S rank weapon, the yellow color and the orange color.

[worthy widget]

Just send a pic

Of what options u can choose from

[merry cobalt]

Weapon that I had and the selector as reference

[orchid owl]

that's the luna weapon selector

pick hers

she good

[merry cobalt]

Luna and Veronica? What team they even use for?

[orchid owl]

luna is used for nihil and cope teams

[merry cobalt]

I used to play Luna in Ismael team, until I got Demonia and New Bianca, making me beached Luna very quickly

[orchid owl]

and off element dps

she is very strong with leap

veronica not so much

at low invest she is mid at ignition and horrible at any invest in physical

[orchid owl]

you just need to give luna her weapon and leap her. she will slap everyone from nihil team

and in element neutral content, she will slap 50% of the characters

[merry cobalt]

So I just need to change Bianca into Luna?

[orchid owl]

who is the team

like who are the members

[merry cobalt]

I usually play as Ishmael, Demonesia and Bianca

[orchid owl]

demonesia? you mean lilith?

for the record if you insist, it's daemonissa

[merry cobalt]

Yes, I kinda forget that name

[orchid owl]

well then

replace bianca with luna yes

and then that team is set

though you could use nirvatia instead of lilith

[merry cobalt]

We haven't got radiance team for Bianca isn't?

[orchid owl]

we do

teddy, bianca, nanami

[still moat]

https://tenor.com/view/nirvatia-nirvatia-pgr-nirvatia-punishing-gray-raven-punishing-gray-raven-pgr-gif-1988702167146486972

[noble zinc]

:

[final fog]

Booba

[worthy widget]

Takes top spot?

[median spade]

@true pivot my pulls were brutal too, all my primos and only c2r1 c0r1

[true pivot]

👍

[true pivot]

o thats the setup im also using lol

[carmine roost]

Asking Kuro to learn how to do proper wording for skills is like asking Ezra to be a proper moderator.

Not happening

[zenith thorn]

crazy how that's still a thing even after 3 years

[barren plank]

No one can misinfo their own playerbase like Kuro

[swift socket]

What should I build for Nirvatia if my Luna is just SS and Ish and Nirvatia will be SSS

Should my Luna hold Dv ?

[rotund fox]

Yoshi-kun

please

pilot me again

[rain anchor]

does SSS nirvatia outdmg ss3 ishmael like alot lol

[barren plank]

No builds have been finalized yet so hang in there while the dalaos test things out

Although if you have an SSS tank like Epitaph it would most likely be better to use him than SS0 Ishmael

[barren plank]

SSS Nirvatia deals a lot more raw damage. However, almost all of it is concentrated into her hold yellow, so whether she will be able to translate this damage well into wz and chain waves efficiently to still maintain a dps advanatge over Ishmael is yet to be seen

In PPC though it seems that she is much stronger in dealing with tankier bosses, since there you need to just dish out damage rather than chain or distribute waves

[rain anchor]

ooo

[barren plank]

Before you rush to PPC though keep in mind that no builds are actually finalized, since it's still Day1 and ppl are still testing things out. Best to wait so as to not needlessly burn resources

[rain anchor]

yea i still havent hypertune anything on her. not wasting that

[true pivot]

honestly the wording isnt that vague

its more like a reading skill issue

[lunar dove]

I'm using Loaner Nirvatia for my Nirvatia Fill

I did get my Nirvatia to Level 80 and got her CUB and 6* weapon

[true pivot]

[carmine roost]

.

Global debuff

[pallid cypress]

so both service shop and PPC fragments will give us nirvatia SS5?

[icy otter]

Then where's the guide lao

[lunar dove]

I did buy 4 Bulgakov (Which I'm calling it Burger because whatever and i'm Nutty) Memory because I think she will need it

[worthy widget]

Bric

[true pivot]

i cant read, so no guide

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/860818646724640770.gif?quality=lossless&name=SolonBuff1&size=48

[icy otter]

50% chance she won't

[icy otter]

So all laos can't read

[true pivot]

im no lao

[graceful summit]

[obtuse coral]

How do you build Nirvatia?

[graceful summit]

You don't

[lunar dove]

For now... you don't. People are still checking what's the better build

[icy otter]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-staring-suspicious-memes-gif-9038143639402170425

[obtuse coral]

Wait really? But then there's an event where I want to use her there

I guess trial would be the only option

[true pivot]

that event is piss easy

also

you might overkill and spawn some interesting bugs

my luna is 3s and she overkilled one of the bosses way too hard she froze

had to restart a few times

[rain anchor]

does ss3 luna realistically outdmg ss3 ishmael

[obtuse coral]

I experience lag that my whole game freezes 😔

How optimized is this game?

[lunar dove]

No kidding...
My Ishmael is 3S and heh... It was difficult to get all side missions complete

[true pivot]

their supposed system that detects external software screws ur game after 15 minutes of playtime