📨・meta-help

[graceful summit]

[rotund fox]

[sour silo]

I saw that

Its safe with me dw

The rng to get past 3 waves in 1 bonka ult at first

[mighty tusk]

no qte nuke f*cking sucks

[white oriole]

Am I high or Fire is higher than Plasma atm? Lilith, Wata and Nanami at 3S, Vera Pyro at SS

[sour silo]

Nanami 3s?

[mighty tusk]

plasma is washed rn

nanami has minor off-element dmg in plasma

lilith is on support set

[sour silo]

Lilith contributes little dmg

So fire is better

Use bonka for plasma

[weary hedge]

Sigh I'm back in heros wz. I keep getting promoted and demoted cause there's always a third team I don't have

[white oriole]

Better than Fire?

[sour silo]

Depends on bonka and teddy invest

[mighty tusk]

depends on invest

[white oriole]

Bonka SS

Cooked?

[sour silo]

No

[white oriole]

Teddy SS3

[weary hedge]

Teddy on plasma?

[mighty tusk]

dont bother

[sour silo]

A bit cooked but its better

Than plasma

[weary hedge]

Huh?

[white oriole]

Yayayaya

[sour silo]

Raydiance

[white oriole]

Fire is more fun

[mighty tusk]

[sour silo]

Pyroath hurts my eyes even its low graphics

[mighty tusk]

someone in hero

who's fastest for hell shorthalt? dante or pyroath?

hp is only 22 mil so lower than gwyn

[rotund fox]

🐳

[mighty tusk]

that's not me
like I would ever sss bianca

[weary hedge]

How much would my fire team hypothetically score if I were to execute the rot perfectly?

[mighty tusk]

oof, no wata sig for dv

can't take advantage of double qte on lucia

[rotund fox]

Where Wata sig

[slate gull]

where vera

[weary hedge]

Second image

[carmine roost]

At least 6mil

Could be lower

[weary hedge]

I have the wep pack that has Luna's and wata sig but Im too hesitant to pick

[carmine roost]

You don't have the dv to do double qte pyro

So qte dmg wasted

[carmine roost]

What rank is your Parhelion and Oblivion then

[zenith thorn]

lee hyperreal

[graceful summit]

Hyperfraud

[weary hedge]

Luna's S, and Ishmael is S6
https://huaxu.app/na/players/27905875/characters

[zenith thorn]

ur a fraud

[gusty summit]

Hyperreal was cool

Animations

[graceful summit]

Me fraud ik

[zenith thorn]

go back to the mines

[carmine roost]

Heh

You should be fine with 5* Luna then

[graceful summit]

I run

[carmine roost]

I wouldn't hesitate picking epitaph weapon from the selector now

[graceful summit]

[rotund fox]

Free reso material—

[carmine roost]

I mean whenever S kamui debuts ig

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1244974910049353819.webp?size=48&name=Clueless~1

[weary hedge]

Did kuro release the char order?

[barren plank]

Yes

Nirvatia > Kamui > Alpha

[rotund fox]

Changyu s frame next after Alpha

trust

[carmine roost]

Order not really

[rotund fox]

me Kuso employee

[carmine roost]

But next character are already reveal

[sour silo]

Idk dante just 10/10/10

[carmine roost]

Although no info for order/types until actual announcement

[sour silo]

Whels can go faster

[barren plank]

[sour silo]

Just hat and ish ult

No brainer

[feral flume]

Real when eos

[boreal lynx]

whats hat

[rotund fox]

Alpha = Ice attacker(?)

Changyu = Ice tank

no more stoopid Wanshi parry

[peak halo]

[weary hedge]

She better be I have no ice dps rn. Hope they powercreep Selena next

[barren plank]

[peak halo]

[mighty tusk]

if anything, it's qu and pyroath that's in danger

selena is next after that

[mild egret]

Changwho

[peak halo]

Qu dad

[boreal lynx]

qu already gone wym

[barren plank]

Teddy is ur ice dps

[mighty tusk]

yea, just need the actual replacement

[barren plank]

Qu is not directly powercrept

She’s useless in practice but in Kuso’s two braincells theory she’s still meta as the premiere ice attacker

[mild egret]

Watch her back shotted again then magically got new body again

[mighty tusk]

red huaxu should be tomorrow

we'll likely have TS again

[sour silo]

Huaxu

One tap and dip

[mighty tusk]

if it's TS, the node will likely have that 50% hp increase

[carmine roost]

Do I get one?

[feral flume]

It's gonna be ice, glacio and physical trust

[mighty tusk]

mixed zone last week was boss zone, this time it's duo, next week is.......

[rotund fox]

Wtf does hat even do

[mild egret]

Its hurt, dont

[rotund fox]

i remember it triggering matrix

[mighty tusk]

quick access to ult

within 3 sec, he can cast ult and trigger both qte nuke and off-field when swapped off

[weary hedge]

Kuro really needs to buff attackers. My wife shouldn't be doing less damage than that thug

Buff the leader bonus or smth

[fluid gulch]

3S roach or no rights

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-laughing-gif-lol-funny-loud-laugh-gif-7926424135311815001

[mighty tusk]

does sss pyroath even eclipse ult within 3 sec?

[fluid gulch]

Better than using dmidc

[mild egret]

[feral flume]

Dmc bric

[icy otter]

Dante is dead mfs when they see vergil get killed by rose but then dante still being used

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

We don't talk about the 3s vergil in ppc

Shut

[mighty tusk]

dante will still be used in ult ppc until they release a new fire boss tankier

[icy otter]

New boss with kamui

60m hp

[mighty tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cL15ipyjL8
wait, apparently vera can 10 sec too

[feral flume]

Kamui gonna be A rank so no boss

[icy otter]

Dante costed 1 copy less

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1358099919684243486.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=worry_tased&animated=true

[mighty tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q87kiyyJZ1o
kek, qte nuke but no off-field

[rotund fox]

Rydlelao invest smh

me can't follow that

[mighty tusk]

no rights for you

fake vera fan smh

[rotund fox]

Ok where S+ r3 Selena then

[mighty tusk]

I hate mob zone

if only I have r2 vero, I can test 111 rot

[icy otter]

Bro only got 8m on fire

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[mighty tusk]

232 invest be like

[icy otter]

That's donte score

So donte > roach

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1195443797056827403.webp?size=96&animated=true

[rotund fox]

🐳

[mighty tusk]

and hero sucks with the low-ass fluc

[mild egret]

Whuat

Pwowq whel noww

[icy otter]

Wait

3s han

Mods that guy has money to buy ram

[mighty tusk]

ngl, I wont get another unit at s+ again

sync helped very much

[simple dew]

not even slena?

[mighty tusk]

if there will be another one, who knows what I'll do

[summer topaz]

S+ in this economy?

[tiny moon]

https://huaxu.app/na/players/27152800/characters
who should I use the ishmael selector on? 🙏

[eternal peak]

How bro be moving

[mild egret]

Dw its for waife

[sonic tide]

Where's sss bero

[white oriole]

GB mald

[mighty tusk]

Is it even worth

If only she gives 40% crit dmg

[stray siren]

Ez

Just hack the game, Kuro doesn't do anything anyway

[exotic fable]

Hax

[orchid owl]

when to use 6 dv on ish in dark team?

or well the question is
Does ish need 6 dv in 333 dark team

[graceful summit]

Qte charges lot 6dv need

[orchid owl]

okie

thank

[barren plank]

Um idts

Cause Bonca QTE fast enough to where 6DV aint necessary afaik

[peak halo]

Yes its will
Will spaming bonca qte reset much as can

Other wise sht score

[barren plank]

Oh for wz yes

I was thinking PPC

[peak halo]

Also in ppc bonka 1 fast ult too fast
Dv in cd if want 10s clear

So if needed 2 bonka nuke
6dv need

[barren plank]

Does Bonca still use Jeanne in PPC idr anymore

[peak halo]

Mine yes

I casul

[buoyant hornet]

If no long rot then no, fast rot uses bathlon cottie

[eternal peak]

What char worth sss
-# possibly without pulling more than once

[buoyant hornet]

In what regards lol

[barren plank]

Most meta voucherable characters

[eternal peak]

Dps

[barren plank]

Luna, Teddy, Nirvatia, Lilith SSS all worth it (not in that particular order)

[buoyant hornet]

What mycledra said but currently yeah teddy is main ice dps

[barren plank]

Idk if I would say SSS Wata or Echo is worth it rn

[fluid gulch]

sss wata worth it

[barren plank]

Idk tbh Wata’s looking pretty old

[buoyant hornet]

I mean sss wata has good longevity but I'd still recommend teddy and lilith more

[barren plank]

SSS Wanshi too

[buoyant hornet]

Sss wata did just get kicked out of void though so that's one less team value

[barren plank]

I forgot him

[buoyant hornet]

Currently in burn, fire, dark and darkflow hmm

Prolly staying in fire too unless fire breaker is free

[barren plank]

I have a feeling a fire breaker is gonna prolly outdps Pyroath tho so SSS Wata might stay assuming breaker aint SSS

[buoyant hornet]

Baby you don't need a "feeling" the only way they don't outdps her is if kuro pulls a veronica moment 😭

Look at rosetta outdpsing bianca who's a newer stronger attacker

Even if fire breaker is relatively a bit weaker than rose they'd still outdps lulu

[barren plank]

If they pull a Veronica I will

[buoyant hornet]

Eos time

[barren plank]

Um

I dont actually play the game so Im not sure what’s I do

[peak halo]

Do nothing

[fluid gulch]

Or

They leap roach

[buoyant hornet]

Wonder if they'll go the "kill Lucia" route and make breaker non-free without a Lucia leap

They could prevent lucia from getting kicked by leaping her or making breaker free

But even if they're free we might just see double amp setup instead

[fluid gulch]

Ofc

[barren plank]

It will depend to what degree

Kamui outdamages her

[peak halo]

[buoyant hornet]

If they leap her it'd have to be some revolutionary sht

Like 3 eclipses in 10s with an improved qte nuke or something

[barren plank]

Tho tbh

[sick flower]

KAMUI ELEMENT AFFIX AND CLASS CONFIRMED?

[barren plank]

I wouldn’t rule out Kamui being lightning amp either

Feral is pretty old

[stray siren]

Hanying and Wanshi, watching from the corner

[barren plank]

No

[buoyant hornet]

No lol but it's kinda likely

[buoyant hornet]

Tbf they can still leap one of them then leap Lucia after

[barren plank]

Kamui ought to be a phys breaker tbh

But

He’s most likely fire

[stray siren]

Hanying plz, pls, plzzzzzz

[barren plank]

But there’s a lot of stuff on the table so you never know

[peak halo]

I can accept

[sick flower]

lightning glaciation amplifier

[barren plank]

Chances of Hanying leap look grim ngl

[buoyant hornet]

I feel like the best case scenarios would be:

Hanying leap, kamui fire breaker

Wanshi leap, kamui phys breaker

[barren plank]

I mean Kamui was talking about “I will not let the flames of the sunset set”

[buoyant hornet]

But we all know kuro will make him dark amp blizzard tank

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/953114926774374470.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=WDYM

[buoyant hornet]

They'll do ANYTHING to throw us off the loop

[fluid gulch]

Just eos mid patch

[buoyant hornet]

Boyfriend showing off his metallic spine

[sick flower]

• crazy strong pyroath leap
• kamui fire plasma breaker
• pyro leap and kamui save plasma

and vera stops single handedly carrying fire as well

[barren plank]

I think plasma is cooked ngl

[fluid gulch]

shush

roach leap saves it

trust

[barren plank]

Nah

[fluid gulch]

[peak halo]

[buoyant hornet]

I used to have hope for plasma to get an upgrade but after their little affix chart in nvidia patch....

Yeah odds are the first gen of affixes will be left to rot in hell

[barren plank]

They went out of their fcuking way to make Bianca a new element that getts buffed by both lightning and Lucia’s affix, making her the cannon waifu of the game

[peak halo]

[barren plank]

They invented an entire new mechanic line just to shill Bianca

Ion is not getting anything till the end of time

[buoyant hornet]

Slash ult x3 more dmg, triggers matrix every slash ult, eclipse x2 dmg, ion QTE nuke

[sick flower]

no

[buoyant hornet]

And hold basic does actual dmg

[buoyant hornet]

Dimension slash too

[sick flower]

plasma beam is exceptionally weak

• worst enabler dps
• tank so weak its better to not use it
• worst gen 3 attacker

[buoyant hornet]

I mean I would LOVE for plasma to make a comeback and have a real subdps and maybe even a Lucia leap but idk if they'll opt for that

[fluid gulch]

222 plasma still outscores 222 ray

Or is it

Well anyway

[sick flower]

these are stuff that cant be just excused because its the first affix instead of the second affix

[buoyant hornet]

Also Lucia ion is actually still really strong, it's just the zone lacks a subdps

She herself is fine but once she swaps out you get jack sht dmg

And she does no off field or qte dmg

[barren plank]

This applies to glacio too, and to a lesser degree, ignition

At least ion gets warzones

[buoyant hornet]

Tbf glacio is a little less cooked but if it gets an amp that does big dmg and/or allows double rot selena

[sick flower]

ignition has an enabler and a support that can both be used as main dps

[buoyant hornet]

It'd be a game changer

[buoyant hornet]

only because of solon's wife

[barren plank]

Glacio is cooked because every time they run it in WZ they run DF right next to it

[buoyant hornet]

Notice how they never roll veronica ppc anymore LMAO

[barren plank]

Glacio will only do better if you have a significantly higher invest in it than DF

Assumibg they even run Glacio

[sick flower]

why on earth does kuro let plasma on with a 5 years old tank?

[peak halo]

Nanami exist

[barren plank]

Nana is not 5 years old

[fluid gulch]

Thats why she needs a leap man

[peak halo]

So not need

[sick flower]

nanami is not plasma beam tank

[fluid gulch]

Leap makes her do plasma dmg on qte too

[buoyant hornet]

Because instead of focusing on the old affixes they decided to make a new set of affixes for no justifiable reason

[barren plank]

They designed Lilith so that Scire wouldn’t be necessary

[peak halo]

Lightning tank
Thats enought

[sick flower]

the first affix ever was apparently a secondary affix

[sick flower]

thats not enough and it holds plasma back

[buoyant hornet]

The way they handled the disruption thing in nirvatia patch is very stupid

[sick flower]

btw

this means

not all nihil units will be able to break nihil shield

[peak halo]

I mean to be in the team

[sick flower]

lmfaoooo

[barren plank]

Literally the only reason to do that was to justify Bianca having her own affix

There is no other plausible reason

[peak halo]

What happened?

[fluid gulch]

Yes?

Nihil is just an element

[buoyant hornet]

Making an "affix" that's just an objectively worse copy of its main element

No overhauls no reworks

[fluid gulch]

They can easily give disruption to any non-nihil unit

[buoyant hornet]

Disruption is now a separate zone from nihil and nihil has no shields anymore

While also removing the off-ele buff on void zones

[sick flower]

oh yeah

this justifies i- wait

disruption does nothing other than breaking a shield

its not a real affix

what will disruption zone do

okay with all element type damages?

[barren plank]

It will just have shields

[peak halo]

Ohh
So in entopy will disruption appear

[buoyant hornet]

I kid you not, it's literally just the current version of nihil but made into an affix meanwhile the base nihil will become omega phat stonks and better

They're the EXACT SAME except disruption has a shield that wastes your dps and time

While nihil is just the shield-free zone we all begged for

[barren plank]

All of this yet they still never fixed shield float bug w Ishmael

[sick flower]

what do you mean by that

afaik disruption doesnt exist until there is the shield

[peak halo]

So nihil wz became shieldless
That increase score dastricly
W60 legend nihil wz comming

[buoyant hornet]

Just imagine the nihil zone we have in current live server

That's just gonna become disruption affix zone instead

While base nihil element zone is the same except without purple shield enemies

[barren plank]

He means disruption team is just a worse scoring team than nihil inherently cause of how the affix works

[buoyant hornet]

@barren plank 22.12.1 void team v3 got TEN MILLION on DUO zone mind you

[sick flower]

but disruption does not have a damage type, it does not buff, it does not have buffs

[buoyant hornet]

Always told y'all void was hard capped by the damn shields

[barren plank]

Wtf

[sick flower]

they will just be the same thing again

[buoyant hornet]

That's not even sss nvidia or ss3 luna

[barren plank]

323 void is gonna be insane

[sick flower]

like does a unit deal disruption damage

[buoyant hornet]

Yes all it does is do more shield dmg and that's it

It's not a real affix it's just a partial solution to a problem (shields) that doesn't need to exist anymore

[sick flower]

does anything buff disruption

or all the buffs are for nihil

[barren plank]

Reminder that the only reason affixes exist to begin with is so they could justify making a new mechanic so people wouldn’t skip Luna for being a new element

[buoyant hornet]

They should've just changed how shields worked, maybe make them give a temporary buff after you break them or insta kill enemies after it breaks

[peak halo]

Its a shield break multiplier technicly

[carmine reef]

insta kill

Welcome back uniframes

[buoyant hornet]

There's no "disruption" damage you already know that lol

[sick flower]

so

[buoyant hornet]

Didn't even notice lmao

[sick flower]

separate zones

but the same thing

[peak halo]

Yes

[carmine reef]

Also there is something that buffs disruption "damage"

[sick flower]

whats the point

[barren plank]

Technically Decryptor buffs damage to shields

[carmine reef]

It's in teddy A kit

[sick flower]

DECRYPTOR META?????????

[barren plank]

No

[sick flower]

DECRYPTOR META

[buoyant hornet]

Just imagine hanging Selena veronica physical team, got a separate "affix" zone that does nothing but add shields on every 3rd wave

That's the current nihil-disruption situation

[barren plank]

It’s like a tiny thing

[sick flower]

why doesnt the amplifier have it?

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah it's just shield dmg basically lmao kuro is doing anything

[barren plank]

Nirvatia is disruption

[sick flower]

and nihil

[buoyant hornet]

Nirvatia already gives 70% qte buff at SSS lmao

Doesn't need to have a shield buff on top of that

The shield itself needs to be reworked

[sick flower]

decryptor is nihil on paper and disruption as well

10%

[barren plank]

Can we say SS0 Ish is saved because of V3 Nirv?

[buoyant hornet]

Don't know

[barren plank]

I think SS3 is safe

[buoyant hornet]

We'll have to see how it plays out

[sick flower]

damage difference between sig1 and sig2 on nirvatia is crazy

[stray siren]

Nah, pull sss ish

[sick flower]

1000% difference

[buoyant hornet]

Could still be better off running wata and using nvidia and Luna as duo DPS

Nvidia dmg isn't actually that bad lol

Her yellow and both ults got buffed km v3 too

[barren plank]

Nirv multiplers are respectable now at least

[sick flower]

she buffs more if all teammates are nihil

ts reminded me of A rank hanying

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah her dmg bulk is really good and we might discover some DPS zaza rot/build if wata kicks out ss0 ish

[sick flower]

special buffs to kowloong uniframes 🥀

[barren plank]

Nirv would probably go 4sig 4shred no?

[buoyant hornet]

Actually that's because ult2 gets a core gauge buff so it's not actually the same multiplier in reality unless you don't use yellow orb

[barren plank]

If were’e going SSS Wata

[buoyant hornet]

If you get the heart stack ult2 gets 50% base dmg buff iirc

[sick flower]

thats a lot wtf

[buoyant hornet]

Unless she's better off using cottie yeah, but idk what her sig mem even does yet

[sick flower]

why are nihil frames sig damages always so high

[barren plank]

True if she needs Cottie that’l suck

[buoyant hornet]

Nihil has the funniest comeback in the history of PGR

[barren plank]

From what I can tell tho she can get ult up pretty quickly tho

Tho she might need DLT at the very least

[buoyant hornet]

Went from fraudulent element that aged like milk to the biggest comeback known to mankind

Luna leap > free ish copy > nvidia and shield removal

All in quick succession

[sick flower]

is new nihil in top 3 teams?

[barren plank]

I wouldn’t be surprised if it is

[peak halo]

Top2 or 1

In my eyes

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah prolly

[sick flower]

lets not hope for veronica incident v2

nihil is special

it makes a lot of sense for it to be the strongest

[buoyant hornet]

@spiral merlin your favorite element is eating good

[icy otter]

its just phys2 bro wheres the comeback

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1360894271552622623.webp?size=128&quality=lossless&name=smh_champ&animated=true

[barren plank]

Man Nirv’s animations look so underwhelming tho

[sick flower]

these guys said top 2 or 1 team what you on 🥀

[peak halo]

Also its my fav ele too

[buoyant hornet]

I still don't like her ult2 lol

[spiral merlin]

nirv update?

[buoyant hornet]

Same I always liked it despite the painful inputs and jank

[sick flower]

• same move
• same move again
• the lamest effect ever known to mankind

[barren plank]

Yellow 5600 > 7000
Nihil exlcusive buff 20 > 30 at SSS

[spiral merlin]

that all

[buoyant hornet]

Dmg buff to yellow, ult1 and ult2

Void collapse conditional buff went from 10%>15% so 30% with sig

70% total qte buff at SSS with the condition met

[spiral merlin]

i mean we take those

[barren plank]

WAIT SIG DOUBLES THE HEAL BUFF?

[spiral merlin]

ish more mandatory

[sick flower]

seeing this after rosettas vortex explosion 🥀

[fluid gulch]

truly, vero disciple

[peak halo]

Wtf luna qte became starbomb

[sick flower]

v3 and v2 btw notice the difference?

[buoyant hornet]

Doubles the conditional heal buff from having 3 nihil units in the team

She doesn't get that 30% if there's no 3 void units

[barren plank]

Wait that’s 60%

[ripe stag]

So they made triple nihil absolutely needed?

[sick flower]

it became a supernova explosion like the effect made it to be ❤️‍🩹

[ripe stag]

Yea the v3 is a bit shaper on the SFX

[peak halo]

[barren plank]

So nirv gets 90% buff at SSS

[ripe stag]

Less blur for the colours

[barren plank]

Yea ishmael is NOT leaving

[spiral merlin]

15 without sig 30 with but we only count 30 because who is playing her without sig

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah this v3 makes ss0 ish a little bit less at risk but she's still questionable

[sick flower]

i will say it

for an amplifier nirvatia is okay

[buoyant hornet]

I think we might just see ss0 ish run 4ele mem 2cot 2eins

[ripe stag]

I have a question

[buoyant hornet]

@barren plank

[ripe stag]

That considering SSS0 Luna?

[sick flower]

but if she was a breaker these animations would make me so fcing mad

[ripe stag]

[ripe stag]

Good question
I honestly think this should be the thing now

[barren plank]

Maybe, we’ll see

[buoyant hornet]

What team context exactly?

[ripe stag]

Ishmael's damage is lower end now

[ripe stag]

Nihil for low ends

[sick flower]

@buoyant hornet sss r3 luna ss3 r3 ish ss3 r0 nirvatia

is my ishmael safe?

[cold walrus]

4 bathlon 4 dv ish

[barren plank]

If they buff Nirv’s damage more, 323 team might just make Ish QTE bot

[buoyant hornet]

Atp it's 30% buff VS. having swap reduction and more shred

[cold walrus]

why didnt they add nihil 4p memo set

[sick flower]

nihil is not dark anymore

[peak halo]

I will try it

[cold walrus]

theoretically you can run nihil without luna at that point

[peak halo]

Or atleast with haisen

[buoyant hornet]

Sss Luna sss nvidia may or may not be even MORE warranting of replacing ss0 ish with wata but we'll see

I can test on your invest if you want

[ripe stag]

Yea asking cuz I don't have any intentions of getting SSS0 Luna atp

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah but ss0-ss3 luna outdps ss0 ish

[ripe stag]

Thank god i saved my vouchers

[sick flower]

ionic feyer ignored me 😭

[cold walrus]

but sss ish outdps ss3 luna

[ripe stag]

We'll need to TEST

[sick flower]

ill make lotte jump you

[ripe stag]

He knows it don't worry

Voucher deficiency

[buoyant hornet]

I'm responding to like 4 people at the same time LMFAOOO

[ripe stag]

Oh yea who can use the S rank selector ?

[barren plank]

It’s 100% buff

Nirv 15%n, 20%
SS3 +10%
SSS + 10%, +15%n (30n)

Sig x2 = 60n

60+40 =100 100

[peak halo]

Both be sss

[sick flower]

someone send that 5 rc luna copypasta

[buoyant hornet]

It's not like using ele mem actually kills her dps so might as well buff luna and nirvatia more

[buoyant hornet]

Yes ish safe

Unless a really funny meta breakthrough happens

But that's unlikely

[ripe stag]

Wait wait wait

what

[sick flower]

we have seen veronica but have we seen the opposite of veronica?

someone that started weak and became op af?

[buoyant hornet]

No pookie it's just the same values as every other gen3 amp but add the 30% from full void team condition onto it

It doesn't double her actual base non-conditional buff

[ripe stag]

40 + 30 (full Nihil) right?

[buoyant hornet]

20% base + 10% ss3 + 10% sss + 30% if 3 void units

[ripe stag]

That's what I thought

Cuz no way they'll give 100% buff to one element

already did it with Darkflow shred but yea

[buoyant hornet]

Do you mean in beta or as meta developed in live server?

Because it's very common in beta

[peak halo]

Wata nerfed to the ground

[buoyant hornet]

Ishmael was hot garbage in early beta, so was bianca and teddy

[ripe stag]

His damage died but he got 60% Darkflow shred

[sick flower]

isnt a third member that actually can deal damage better than -3s and a bit more shred

[ripe stag]

Technically Rosetta too

[peak halo]

Liv said thanks uncle

[buoyant hornet]

Oh yeah she was very shaky in early beta as well

[ripe stag]

-3s means the strongest units will get more swap ins and a bit more shred for them

Same logic as to why Dante Vero Wata works

Wata doesn't even have any field time

@buoyant hornet can you tell me who to use the selector on

I am having an existential crisis in PGR rn

I'm too detached from the game

[stray siren]

Nope, that's why Honsse + Wata > Honsse + Bianca

[buoyant hornet]

Got ss3 ish and ss3 hanying already?

Unfortunately there's no leap info so we have no info on who would be the objective best option other than those two

Or ss3 Startrail if you don't have it

[sick flower]

there is no way ezra doesnt have ss3 nana

[chilly trail]

cw pls

[ripe stag]

No SS3 Ish
Only SS3 Han

And SS3 nana

[chilly trail]

Yangyang Brick

[buoyant hornet]

Then ss3 ish for sure

Ss3 ish is even more futureproof thanks to breaker

[ripe stag]

Ok so

Rot change?

I was using this at SS0

[buoyant hornet]

SS3 Ishmael inputs

Swap in > ult1 > R Y RR DD > ult2

Ult1 > Red > dodge > hold dodge > red > dodge > ult 2

Hold dodge > ult1 > Red > dodge > hold dodge > red > dodge > ult 2

R = Red
Y = Yellow
D = Dodge tap

[stray siren]

As long as you can cast 3 ultimates in amp time, it's ok

[buoyant hornet]

There's also a zaza opener rot that is SOMETIMES optimal depending on zone lol

[ripe stag]

I wanna die

[buoyant hornet]

Swap > blue > ult1 > RYRDD > ult2

[buoyant hornet]

But this one isn't a staple it's situational (and also happens to be her PPC fast rot lmao)

[ripe stag]

Ah the ppc rot

[stray siren]

Ss3 ish above has many situational rotations, just focus on one and use the others when you need to mald

[ripe stag]

So basically SS3 ish is where she starts getting tricky

[buoyant hornet]

There's so much zaza I can imagine for new void but we all know 90% of that zaza will be useless or a sidegrade at best 😭

Most important zaza I wanna test is ss0 ish vs. sss wata

And whether nvidia can use any unique builds/rots as a DPS setup

[buoyant hornet]

Tbh ss3 ish in wz is easier than ss0 lol

Ss0 ish you have to fight for your life to get the 3ults in amp

Ss3 ish you still wanna be fast but there's more wiggle room

[weary hedge]

Hmm, why won't it fill up

[buoyant hornet]

What are you doing

[weary hedge]

Dark rot I'm at :10 https://youtu.be/FpRxVE4aVc8?

[buoyant hornet]

What's not filling up do you mean ult energy?

Are you using 2 same colored orb links lol

[weary hedge]

Yeah...

[buoyant hornet]

You can't do that without cottie

[weary hedge]

Sorry I meant to say 1:10

[buoyant hornet]

If you get 2 same colored links she consumed some ult energy when using horse orb

[weary hedge]

She's on cottie

[simple dew]

[fluid gulch]

[weary hedge]

Forgot to add the 1

[weary hedge]

[buoyant hornet]

Dw every PGR player is illiterate in some way except for zex

For some reason

[fluid gulch]

Yes

[buoyant hornet]

Also worth mentioning the zex video was a preliminary rotation it's not what's always 100% optimal

[simple dew]

how is cottie better for ss honse if im using wata

[buoyant hornet]

Using blue is still worth it in a lot of cases

[simple dew]

would 4 bath honse + gloria eins wata be better

[buoyant hornet]

Red is just more convenient and less jank issues with the hitboxes and the way she moves around

[fluid gulch]

[simple dew]

wind

[weary hedge]

Imagine you didn't see that

It was just the wind

[buoyant hornet]

If you use cottie it allows her to use same-color links and that gives her 30% dark dmg buff that lasts throughout horse form (expires after ult2 is over)

[fluid gulch]

Ignore that too

[buoyant hornet]

It's good for squishy zones where eins gloria wata can't keep up with all the wave deaths

[simple dew]

[buoyant hornet]

And wata can instead carry bath in this scenario

[simple dew]

why 4 cottie and not cottie darwin

for honse

[buoyant hornet]

In hero I got a noticeably better results with cottie horse and in legend bath horse was better

I imagine mob zones prolly even in legend will prefer cottie rose too

[buoyant hornet]

See it depends on which rotation variant you use

4cottie better for 1.5 rot opener > 2.5 rot rest of the run

2cot 2dar better for normal 2 rot

And so far for ss0 horse almost all the best scoring runs use 2.5 strat

So 4cottie would be better for that scenario

[simple dew]

ic

lao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387273446326293.gif

[loud saffron]

should i wait for nirvatia or get bear now?

[fluid gulch]

Now

Nirvatia can get from limited story event

[ripe stag]

Bear?

[loud saffron]

teddy bear

[ripe stag]

What

[ripe stag]

Ok
It's definitely EASIER

What the hell

[barren plank]

Oh

[ripe stag]

Did I do it right?

[barren plank]

Nvm

[buoyant hornet]

Yeah you can also do the ult2 > hold dodge > ult1 sequence by buffering hold dodge as the screen breaks in ult 2 then reacting to the number turning purple to proc ult1

It can look almost instant if you do it fast enough

[ripe stag]

Possible on mobile?

?

[mild egret]

Already correct

[ripe stag]

Thank you

SS0 rot was actually worse

[mild egret]

Now ppc rot

[mild egret]

Proll on rot 1, just use two thumb ready for that r y r

To cancel it faster

Miniscule diff tho

[ripe stag]

I have to press like a second before the response happens

Will take time for me to get used to this

[mild egret]

Yea already good if it your first time

[stray siren]

Everything that happens on PC is possible on mobile if you're fast

[visual topaz]

can't front tap Melinoe

[gusty summit]

How important is cubs in general for supp or dps

Got 2 up for redemption but unsure if who needs it more

[wind hemlock]

Quite good to have, but not a necessity

[gusty summit]

Hm is it just minuscule differences?

[wind hemlock]

I wouldn't call minuscules

But charaters arent unplayable without them

[gusty summit]

Icic but i assume they dont work during qtes right so this should be mainly for dps? Or both can use it equally well? Was thinking of redeeming for Startrail and Bonca

[wind hemlock]

You mean QTE triggering them?

[carmine roost]

Decent dmg boost for your character, weather they're a dps or support

If a character is working as support in a team then maybe they'll be fine without their cub

[carmine roost]

It's a personal buff, no S rank cub that buff other characters besides the user

[zenith thorn]

have u tried from behind

[wanton hatch]

[fluid gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1341044108197626006.webp?size=128&animated=true

[wanton hatch]

[buoyant hornet]

Bianca cub is already immediately low priority unless you whaled on her (sss or higher)

[keen meteor]

Ty for the tech lao

[gusty summit]

Okay

[winter patio]

if i have both ss3 for horse and danca, do i still run both with bath or one with cottie?

[pine pier]

if i run rosetta with lilith should 2nd amp run 4 piece dv 4 piece guin or 4 piece dv 2 piece guin 2 piece einsteina

[pallid cypress]

is Melinoe Bugged?

[normal sierra]

why?

[pallid cypress]

nevermind

i was just confused as to why breaker effect didnt activate

[plain oyster]

Both bath

[stray siren]

Too much nvidia haters

[celest drum]

Anyway to make ppc timer stop? Sht takes 3 business days to stop

[final fog]

[graceful summit]

Both good, only use as per need
Eins when zone is tankier, guin when it's squishier

[graceful summit]

Just haxx it

[plain oyster]

[sturdy pewter]

Yo chat how can I make my rossete areta do good dmg there is so many skills that she has idk how to use her I need some help pls 🙏🏻

[sour silo]

Bonka cottie, honse bath

[wanton hatch]

[wanton hatch]

depends on wz, if you think you aren't dealing enough dmg can just switch it to eins

[plain oyster]

[wanton hatch]

[stray siren]

What is the investment in your Rosetta?

[zenith thorn]

S0 3*

pls help lao

[stray siren]

[quiet lily]

[stray siren]

Too much lao in this server

I'm terrified

[nova forum]

Segs

[true pivot]

wao i like the new background

[feral flume]

If I’m being honest, I really need help getting good at this gaem because right now I feel like I’m just button-mashing and hoping for the best. The combat looks so smooth and stylish when experienced players do it, but when I try, my dodges are late, my combos fall apart, and I panic whenever bosses start attacking fast. I want to understand how to properly use the ping system, manage orbs efficiently, and time my matrix dodges instead of wasting them. I also need advice on building characters correctly, choosing the right memories and weapons, and knowing which constructs to prioritize upgrading. I’m willing to practice, but I don’t always know what I’m doing wrong, so any tips on mechanics, team composition, and improving reaction time would really help me level up and actually feel skilled instead of lucky

[quiet lily]

wheres the tldr

[noble zinc]

[eternal peak]

Tldr: i'm bad at this game and i need to git gud

[true pivot]

Legend boss 9.5m SS3 Teddy Double weather
Hero duo 8.6m SSS Teddy Single weather

[quiet lily]

lock in elper, u have ppl in need of ur help

[feral flume]

[carmine roost]

What do you want to be good at exactly

You don't just want to be good at everything at the same time right away

Get to know which one you actually want to deal with then I'm sure you can figure out how to be better from there

[zenith thorn]

i want to be good at celica class

pls give me tips

[carmine roost]

Oh tips?

I have one

Come to my place later at night

[feral flume]

I want to go in Lb as f2p and get title pls hilp

[zenith thorn]

ew

[feral flume]

[carmine roost]

Leaderboard?

[zenith thorn]

lmfao

cuff up mpa

[carmine roost]

That needs like months just to get the necessary character and gears

[quiet lily]

not leaderboard

lost banity

[carmine roost]

Damn

[zenith thorn]

i lost my banity there

[feral flume]

Yis

[quiet lily]

[carmine roost]

I do too want to go to lost banity

[graceful summit]

Can I go too

[zenith thorn]

no

[feral flume]

What the?! Gy- emoji

[carmine roost]

Idk man

Just play the game for now, don't pull randomly (reserve black cards as much as possible) and only get the useful characters.

[nova marten]

If I’m being honest, I really need help getting good at this gaem because right now I feel like I’m just button-mashing and hoping for the best. The combat looks so smooth and stylish when experienced players do it, but when I try, my dodges are late, my combos fall apart, and I panic whenever bosses start attacking fast. I want to understand how to properly use the ping system, manage orbs efficiently, and time my matrix dodges instead of wasting them. I also need advice on building characters correctly, choosing the right memories and weapons, and knowing which constructs to prioritize upgrading. I’m willing to practice, but I don’t always know what I’m doing wrong, so any tips on mechanics, team composition, and improving reaction time would really help me level up and actually feel skilled instead of lucky

[carmine roost]

Don't sweat it too much if you're new, no reason to think about it

[feral flume]

[carmine roost]

Unless you're just THAT nerd

I can list the strict steps for one

[feral flume]

Noted Sensei

[quiet lily]

trust the process

[feral flume]

[zenith thorn]

i have trust issue

[feral flume]

Same

[quiet lily]

then process the trust

u have process issue?

[zenith thorn]

wise words uncle

[quiet lily]

[feral flume]

I hab brain issues

[zenith thorn]

myu processor is running integrated intel i3 3rd gen

[feral flume]

Can't keep up

[carmine roost]

It's funni how intermediate PPC lb is already deleted to even bother trying for lb

[quiet lily]

ye that sht aint survivin thru ur 5th sem xdd

[zenith thorn]

:lmaocry:

ye im buying new laptop this weekend

[quiet lily]

[carmine roost]

Gaming one?

[quiet lily]

[zenith thorn]

then straight swapping out from windows to linux

[carmine roost]

Real

[zenith thorn]

i dont think gaming laptop is ever worth it :deadge:

high specs but 1 fan :lmaocry:

[quiet lily]

surely u dont need windows

[carmine roost]

Downloading malware lowkey kinda better compared to just run windows 11 at this point

[graceful summit]

Why gaming laptop nowadays is so damn thin

[carmine roost]

Ye

[graceful summit]

Mf have zero cooling and dare call it gaming

[carmine roost]

I liked chonky laptop

[graceful summit]

[zenith thorn]

it's just tricking avrg john

[quiet lily]

bring back the 6kg laptop

[graceful summit]

True that
I love it when my laptop is heavy duty

[zenith thorn]

the average wouldnt know you need proper ventilation

[graceful summit]

[zenith thorn]

to fully make use of your specs :lmaocry:

[celest carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1289714178226913393/1476271667348246579/2026-02-22-22-26-29.gif

[noble zinc]

Become ching chong

[celest carbon]

r u ching chong

[noble zinc]

[zenith thorn]

nudelao is ching chong?

[noble zinc]

[celest carbon]

[noble zinc]

[zenith thorn]

that was not the wind

https://tenor.com/view/must've-been-the-wind-wind-alr-bro-that-was-not-the-wind-windy-blue-emoji-meme-gif-13783649244884164410

[graceful summit]

Wtf

[celest carbon]

[carmine roost]

It was twind

[stray siren]

Having a F2P account is something that I absolutely pride myself in...

[feral flume]

Ching chong?

[noble zinc]

Nvm

Just play more

Watch good players

Copy them

[carmine roost]

Dalao language

[noble zinc]

Then try to be better

[quiet lily]

f2p gospel

[feral flume]

[carmine roost]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-sunshine-lebron-james-sunshine-sunshine-lebron-you-are-my-sunshine-you-are-my-sunshine-gif-509896211431970290

Type shi

[stray siren]

I can't copy and paste it without nitro

[carmine roost]

Need nitro fr fr

[quiet lily]

dont worry

i got u king

Having a F2P account is something that I absolutely pride myself in. Without spending a single dollar, I've been able to rise to the top, no matter what content has been introduced in this game. While other players may have the advantage in almost every single aspect, I've been able to stand my ground. I believe that we free-to-play players are a special breed, and the connection that we share is built on growth. We require a true understanding of all the fundamental concepts in this game in order to succeed. We rely on absolutely no money to give us the edge. And at the end of the day, we are truly superior to our spender counterparts. But there is something that I want everyone to understand. Some say PGR is all about spending to rise to the top. But for myself, I believe in pure skill. When I first started this game, I didn't understand the concept of resource management, memory building, QTE usage, and basic mathematics. After a vigorous amount of effort and mistakes carved in my blood, I feel I have started to reach the pinnacle. There are fine details that separate the average player and the professionals. Being able to reset QTEs with DaVinci, mob targeting prioritization, understanding Warzone wave compositions, and even having to innovate new methods to destroy Paincage bosses. Money will only take you so far. And if you don't understand important concepts, then your beloved SSS + constructs with triple resonated weapons are useless. Some say that the game doesn't give enough serum in a day. What's the rush? It's a casual game and with enough saving, you can achieve absolutely anything you would need as a player. In my honest opinion, the game gives me too much serum because I have almost 1300 every single day. I want you guys to know that the moment someone starts swiping their card, they don't get any better as a player. They don't learn how to dodge. They don't learn the mechanics of any boss. They get a bit of damage. And if that bothers you, quite frankly, you should just go fk yourself.

[noble zinc]

[zenith thorn]

fck u p2w ass pasta

fund me whel

[quiet lily]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-laughing-brown-cat-lmao-rofl-gif-14057163617344906417

[feral flume]

B-but what if i can't copy em cuz im too bad

[celest carbon]

yes watch Klaige hes really good

[zenith thorn]

watch spider2b

really good

started to popoff post sync

[halcyon lodge]

you will still keep improving anyway

[noble zinc]

Excuses

[sour silo]

[celest carbon]

bro stuttering on chat

[feral flume]

[quiet lily]

start by learning ppc, its easier bcs lesser input

and like i said

trust the process

[zenith thorn]

i-im s-sorry f-fenr-fenrear

[halcyon lodge]

i used to be very bad too still bad now but at least now i can execute rot now

[quiet lily]

[sour silo]

Less input but tight timing

[celest carbon]

LMAO

[zenith thorn]

just be faster

who told you be to slow?

[quiet lily]

bro tryna learn, we can put aside timing perspective

[celest carbon]

peak invest tighter, f2p invest not tight

[stray siren]

I think that's what you need at the start of the game; don't be like me, who learned WZ first and then ppc

[zenith thorn]

yk what else is tight?

[stray siren]

Big mistake

[feral flume]

My strongest character i have is cw 3s r3

[zenith thorn]

the economics of the world

[sour silo]

Ts why i one tap ppc

[zenith thorn]

holy cooked

[celest carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280331315627036836/1438404737287454772/GIF-251112_234609.gif

[quiet lily]

one more thing, throw away useless unit. only focus on meta unit and pull all char. dont do dumb moves if u cant back it up

[zenith thorn]

wz dalao learnt wz rot first

[sour silo]

Zamn

[noble zinc]

[stray siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1312756330469130311.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=smh&lossless=true

[feral flume]

Dem bro

[halcyon lodge]

alpha is useless unit

[zenith thorn]

isnt this wolfie gif

[sour silo]

Even the new one

[feral flume]

[celest carbon]

naur its wael

[stray siren]

Waelbeast gif

[zenith thorn]

:lmaocry:

[stray siren]

Aka R3

[halcyon lodge]

it's inclusive of future units too

[zenith thorn]

remove all alpha

[feral flume]

I want to pull the new alpha when she drops can i invest on her

[sour silo]

Alpha as a boss in warzone does more damage

[quiet lily]

only useful if its max

[zenith thorn]

she's more of a hindrace

and annoyance

than a tough boss

[halcyon lodge]

pull new unit always better

[feral flume]

Why broke and laughing emoji is cw really that bricked

[zenith thorn]

yews

she's 3 years old bro

[halcyon lodge]

the old lightning cw is already out meta

[zenith thorn]

maybe 4-5 idk

[quiet lily]

liv exist

ofc cw is brick

[stray siren]

Nanami exist

[halcyon lodge]

no worth to build her meta wise

[zenith thorn]

also startrail already outbeat crimson weeb

[feral flume]

[halcyon lodge]

chrome arclight too

[quiet lily]

theres no loyalty in the eyes of meta slaves

[graceful summit]

[zenith thorn]

yes there is

my selena is sss r3

[halcyon lodge]

only score and ease of execution matter

[sonic tide]

🐳

[zenith thorn]

im loyal

[stray siren]

Meta this meta that

[feral flume]

[halcyon lodge]

where s+

[feral flume]

Have you met a woman

[zenith thorn]

im a cs major

what is that

[celest carbon]

i have a wife and a kid

[stray siren]

New memo set i think

[zenith thorn]

ai doesnt count

[zenith thorn]

what is that

what are these words

[sour silo]

[noble zinc]

Dont want to demote fk whels

[nova marten]

Finally a worthy opponent for nukelao

[stray siren]

67 when

https://tenor.com/view/cat-67-scp-67-funyuns-funny-gif-75413186200073602

[celest carbon]

y phys so low

[noble zinc]

I don't want to play this dum zones

[celest carbon]

good

[noble zinc]

[celest carbon]

me neither

[crystal rune]

[stray siren]

Meanwhile, my subplot, I think I'm going to retain again with Karen in two teams

Ded gaem

[stray siren]

Nergilao

[crystal rune]

[zenith thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-ake-chen-gif-1852193165950969361

ur so funny dalao

[halcyon lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-satanic-satan-star-led-gif-19113956

[crystal rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181117483260850226/1299703750914474035/uncaption.gif

[zenith thorn]

just overtake zera bro

[noble zinc]

[quiet lily]

ye just score another 15m

[zenith thorn]

just restart harder

[halcyon lodge]

just unlock another zone to get 15m smh

[quiet lily]

woops wong serv

[noble zinc]

You know why first perfect swap dosent prok lucia qte

Fire

[halcyon lodge]

bugged pobably, i always need to wait for it to proc qte then only ulti1

but the wait could ruin your breakpoint

[noble zinc]

Yea offild hitting then overkilling that wave

[halcyon lodge]

so i always just dodge blue into ulti1 for consistency

[noble zinc]

[sonic tide]

Welp time to commit 27 dork

[halcyon lodge]

dark can 28-29m

more potential if you want to retain

[noble zinc]

Dark easy yeah 26 was whatver random go

[sonic tide]

Do it first

[halcyon lodge]

fire probably 15.2m max for 333

[noble zinc]

Phy lain

[noble zinc]

Wave 42 vera ender?

[sonic tide]

Me chill me hero

[noble zinc]

Or wave 41 kill that

[halcyon lodge]

phy if you do 111 it's ez 12m

if mald crit then 13m+

[noble zinc]

Am not touching that cancer

Selena ptsd still there

[sonic tide]

How the hell u encounter zeratu

[halcyon lodge]

i not fast enough for vera u1 ended

[noble zinc]

That's 14.7

[halcyon lodge]

ya and no breakpoint mald

[noble zinc]

Mine low battery popper up last time then never went back again

[halcyon lodge]

lot of wata 1hp brikc

[noble zinc]

[halcyon lodge]

never thought that wata s cub can brick my fire clear

[noble zinc]

[sonic tide]

Just commit dork u like dork right

[noble zinc]

Was vera hold ba start?

[halcyon lodge]

yes

blue hold ba

and always vera 2.5 rot, my vera was slow and it always eat into pyro swap time

[ionic citrus]

Where I can use this

[noble zinc]

Wpn reso

[noble zinc]

Then next swap was your wave 13 ult?

[carmine roost]

Exchange shop

Thought, need 150 of em

[halcyon lodge]

erm i cant recall, it was 1 tap

[noble zinc]

[halcyon lodge]

can record your run until 2nd pyro swap?

[noble zinc]

You doing or asking me to do?

[halcyon lodge]

you do

[noble zinc]

Wait

[ionic citrus]

Thanks

[quiet lily]

thanks

[halcyon lodge]

my run i clear first wave during vera u1

then at 1.49 swap into wata clear w8

[noble zinc]

It's turning out same for me wave 13 ult vera

[halcyon lodge]

ah then maybe try one dodge only during vera 2nd rot

maybe it can clear the wave, then you only qtes when fresh wave spawn on ulti2

[noble zinc]

Trying

Same

Can change a bit for Vinci buffed first slash still feels will be same progression

Next-next wave problem

1hp stuck

Wata

With double qte nuke

Followup wave then can core kill vera that copium

[halcyon lodge]

then probably subsequent waves issue

maybe need to downgrade wata cub to s cub

[noble zinc]

This end prob again can

With speed up then vera

Wave 41 near kill

[halcyon lodge]

if got to ulti then can use at least 1 pyro qte on w42

[noble zinc]

[halcyon lodge]

15m coming

[noble zinc]

[quiet lily]

15.5m

[buoyant hornet]

@noble zinc10.7m hero dark

Rosetta is janky as HELL with multiple enemies

[noble zinc]

222.3?

[buoyant hornet]

Her human form blue is straight up dysfunctional

[buoyant hornet]

ss0 rose sss wata and lilick lol

[noble zinc]

Oh me blind

[buoyant hornet]

it's duo this week not boss

[noble zinc]

Still doable

[limber yoke]

dark me in w45

with bianca

too washed

[noble zinc]