#📨・meta-help
keen sable
valid juniper
name of numbers, u lack motivation
vital nova
why does ray feel like brick this week in ib ppc
slender scarab
heard it's bugged
feral flume
Cuz bianca is also bric
plain oyster
cursive mason
whats the bug?
apparently the "takes less damage from other sources also includes ray"
vital nova
wow
normal sierra
no u 
normal sierra
so you gonna skip something in 2028?
keen sable
feral flume
They're not getting one anymore cuz gaem eos
nova wasp
@normal sierra wtf you still play
keen sable
liv atacker was a mistake
nova wasp
heard drama and i opened server first time in a year
normal sierra
mehh, just the usual overblown carp, nothing new
nova wasp
where tf is gameplay-help.
normal sierra
disintegrated, tossed into the void 
carmine reef
@normal sierra wtf you still play
feral flume
Bc of that drama A rank Kamui might actually happen
nova wasp
<@286640328180760578> wtf you still play
stfu noname
normal sierra
damn, that would be a win
keen sable
almost 2 years without pgr
i hope u didnt play hoyo games in that time
normal sierra
so the detox finished? you free from the stuff completely?
nova wasp
so the detox finished? you free from the stuff completely? <:EvilLiv:97691574188...
i pretty much just quit randomly one day and never installed again
nova wasp
i hope u didnt play hoyo games in that time
rent free in your head bro i didnt even mention other games
keen sable
so did u or not
nova wasp
remember pgr 2021 people never shitted on other gachas
then wuwa came out
like even the guild i was in people were playing jenshin or hi3 and wuwa came out they suddenly started switching sides
must be some kind of a virus
normal sierra
how is your fat cat? still getting fatter? I remember when posted the pic of the fatty 
nova wasp
she has flu right now :-(
normal sierra
aww, is ok, she got beeg fur and fat belly, she will survive
nova wasp
legendary photos
normal sierra
valid juniper
legendary photos
theres more pressing matter in the first photo
nova wasp
bring back 2021 2022 pgr
nova wasp
<:LivWow:706377042220023828>
dis her now
ok im out of here cause idk i dont wanna get warned like its old times lmao
carmine roost
dis her now
Car
nova marten
Car meta
steady otter
i cant use SSS cons
SSS cons zone on IB
fk i fell a sleep, my uber food has been waiting for 20 min
hahaha
oh no
im sorry
plain oyster
sharp grove
<:LivWow:706377042220023828>
Hi grandpa joe
echo current
Sup meta slaves 
slate gull
soup meta slaves
fluid gulch
soap meta slaves
limber yoke
fraudte
graceful summit
Somebody fix my light bro I'm not playing that shi
Where your usual pilot smh
graceful summit
fluid gulch
ban all pilots
final fog
Wait this is lowk sad bro
Yan lao or fraud?
clever stone
orchid owl
do we know what ishmael is copying?
with nirvatia in team
since she turns breaker
does she just turn into best of herself with nihil buffs?
spiral merlin
does she just turn into best of herself with nihil buffs?
nihil breaker yeah
warm pagoda
I just came back after a long break from the game, can someone suggest me the best teams I can go for, from selectors to banner choices, based on my ancient (and has so many content untouched) account? This account has 0 teams💀
Huaxu: 11527888 Asia-pacific
orchid owl
nihil breaker yeah
so like fire, dark, lightning etc. just with nihil effects?
spiral merlin
Hip breaker
wouldnt have it any other way
spiral merlin
so like fire, dark, lightning etc. just with nihil effects?
exact same buffs if you put lilith in the team rn
just with nirv instead
orchid owl
exact same buffs if you put lilith in the team rn
alright I'm just trying to understand the concept since she would mimic the "best opposite in scenario"
and there is no nihil tank/breaker yet she put on the breaker symbol with nirvatia
orchid owl
I just came back after a long break from the game, can someone suggest me the be...
honestly you should restart your account
spiral merlin
alright I'm just trying to understand the concept since she would mimic the "bes...
well she wouldnt be tank now we're past tanks
orchid owl
true that
warm pagoda
honestly you should restart your account
is it that bricked😭
orchid owl
is it that bricked😭
there is nothing on it and a new account gets boosted earnings due to the starter missions
like a new account is just better than yours
golden merlin
orchid owl
and idk if you just got cw or if you pulled her when you last played, but she is free now if you do some missions
warm pagoda
alright then Ill suffer for some time
orchid owl
alright then Ill suffer for some time
there's no more suffering than what you'd have now 
orchid owl
exact same buffs if you put lilith in the team rn
sorry to still bother you with this magmadude
but by buffs we are talking about shred and heal buffs right?
warm pagoda
What teams do I prioritize on getting for a brand new account?
spiral merlin
sorry to still bother you with this magmadude
but by buffs we are talking about ...
yes
orchid owl
What teams do I prioritize on getting for a brand new account?
honestly you try to branch out a little in the best directions
golden merlin
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1383785490360172584/146291244692...
Razlao
fluid gulch
Except you don't use thunderbolt research to get Nanami Startrail, you use event selector instead
golden merlin
Except you don't use thunderbolt research to get Nanami Startrail, you use event...
Then where ish
fluid gulch
golden merlin
fluid gulch
Don't need ish-
rotund fox
Dum lao
golden merlin
Newbie should get enough for Thunderbolt, no?
Besides
No need to save for next patch
orchid owl
Newbie should get enough for Thunderbolt, no?
even if you do it's not recommended
best to use a little every patch
fluid gulch
void needs luna
golden merlin
that selector keeps getting worse every day
Yea so might as well get the best unit there, no?
Then can get ish from event selector
fluid gulch
Remember when Roach was a good pick from it?
orchid owl
Yea so might as well get the best unit there, no?
Then can get ish from event se...
sure but I'd say right now, thunderbolt is not a priority at all considering you need to spend bc or ec
wanton parrot
Hey, which one should i ss3 from the selector? Hanying or star rail? Rest are already ss3. Also I'm f2p so wont be pulling dupes.
fluid gulch
Nah, we're too deep into the patch
simple dew
its better to just save instead of throwing 22k at getting a niche unit
golden merlin
sure but I'd say right now, thunderbolt is not a priority at all considering you...
Then could get next patch i guess
fluid gulch
Horse prior
simple dew
Hey, which one should i ss3 from the selector? Hanying or star rail? Rest are al...
ss3 nana
golden merlin
Hey, which one should i ss3 from the selector? Hanying or star rail? Rest are al...
Startrail
Hanging sux
wanton parrot
Thanks.
golden merlin
its better to just save instead of throwing 22k at getting a niche unit
Nanami is niche now?
simple dew
Nanami is niche now?
fraudmael
fluid gulch
wanton parrot
Ishmael for me feels like she does more damage than oblivion.
warm pagoda
then I guess Ill get startrail from the selector and ignore thunderbolt
orchid owl
then I guess Ill get startrail from the selector and ignore thunderbolt
nonono get vera geiravor from selector
fluid gulch
Ishmael for me feels like she does more damage than oblivion.
post leap luna is stronger
orchid owl
and @warm pagoda if you spend, or if you can spend, then it's a huge jump if you buy the luna for 1$ from the shop
simple dew
then I guess Ill get startrail from the selector and ignore thunderbolt
get vera gayravor from standard selector and nanami starrail from cny selector
golden merlin
he meant in general
I mean like
Ish get more use for newbie because missing lots of units
I think
wanton parrot
post leap luna is stronger
Oh. I do have her leaped. But don't feel there's much difference except faster ults.
simple dew
I mean like
Ish get more use for newbie because missing lots of units
I think
newbies have no attackers
orchid owl
I mean like
Ish get more use for newbie because missing lots of units
I think
yeah but with the caveat of getting her weapon too
without her weapon ish is a fish out of water
simple dew
the game gives only 1 washed attacker
fluid gulch
Oh. I do have her leaped. But don't feel there's much difference except faster u...
Maybe you're playing her wrong, invest matters too
warm pagoda
and <@491255309898350592> if you spend, or if you can spend, then it's a huge ju...
yea consider that spent, thats really cheap wth
orchid owl
yea consider that spent, thats really cheap wth
wanton parrot
Maybe you're playing her wrong, invest matters too
I see
orchid owl
you get a selector that goes up to her weapon
it's called "something something of Law"
warm pagoda
damn🤑
simple dew
reconstruction of law
simple dew
fluid gulch
"yo bonnie how big was nvidias ass?"
golden merlin
fluid gulch
fluid gulch
orchid owl
if nirvatia will be extremely free to sss, should I just SSS honse? 
orchid owl
Is her ss3 free atleast
kinda
orchid owl
no
simple dew
orchid owl
she's like teddy
wait no
like dante
you play her affection story or something and you get a free copy
icy otter
So ur saying
orchid owl
you can get 50 shards from service shop
icy otter
Ur saying
simple dew
yea dante and teddy fused
orchid owl
and you can still use vouchers + skulls
orchid owl
not even one
icy otter
I had to pull a dante
simple dew
orchid owl
because he was collab
that's different
nirvatia is free from story + you get 50 shards for free by doing service missions
orchid owl
doesn't need it
simple dew
i mean you do lack 7 shards
orchid owl
although I'm not sure if you will be able to get both her weapon and cub and then the 50 shards
icy otter
She's running lingya gg ez
orchid owl
2800 service things for 50 shards + weapon and cub
orchid owl
they say you will be able to get 5600 service things
that's the new limit
but teddy is also in the same shop
simple dew
yea
orchid owl
so idk how much you could get to earn all of teddy
simple dew
2800 for individual char
icy otter
Wait how are you lacking 7 shards
simple dew
you unlock her
icy otter
1 free copy + ss from ppc + 50 from shop
orchid owl
from story
simple dew
get the 50
icy otter
orchid owl
XD
orchid owl
joke's on you I used the 5k on entropy, plume, ca, and all the other long powercrept S ranks 
icy otter
orchid owl
simple dew
chiko achievements pls
orchid owl
chiko achievements pls
she doesn't have?
simple dew
she doesnt
orchid owl
icy otter
Chiko achievement put in but hp updated to 70m
orchid owl
Chiko achievement put in but hp updated to 70m
plain oyster
chiko
peak halo
simple dew
why did lying get normalized
dire cape
who came first
I came first
finite wharf
Build for rosseta pls
buoyant hornet
@noble zinc do you tap an orb before holding yellow without actually consuming orbs just to get instant 3p>ult?
https://youtu.be/PSn45nzfmj0
buoyant hornet
ss3 rose
ss0 han
ss0 vero
powered
Idk how this comps approaches powered runs but maybe here's espada's runs
https://youtu.be/M--13_YFLk4
May or may not need to make alterations to your run if he has more reso/cub rank
Or ss3 hanying, since ss3 hanying gives more shred
sick flower
Idk how this comps approaches powered runs but maybe here's espada's runs
https...
so is meta build for rosetta 4 patton 2 darwin 2 bunsen?
buoyant hornet
so is meta build for rosetta 4 patton 2 darwin 2 bunsen?
I didn't even know she could drop nimue at all but no that's not the standard
This is PPC zaza build
sick flower
i want the general one
buoyant hornet
i want the general one <:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
There is no real general one it depends on your run tbh 😭
For ss0 rose I used 4nimue 4patton but that's because she actually needs ults to kill chaos and hell
Without nimue she can't ult
sick flower
There is no real general one it depends on your run tbh 😭
For ss0 rose I used 4...
so is this the first time where a character doesnt have a general build 😭
buoyant hornet
so is this the first time where a character doesnt have a general build 😭
No not really
A bunch of ppc characters have multiple builds for different runs
Like Selena especially
sick flower
Like Selena especially
but she has a general build that is not specific to ppc or warzone
buoyant hornet
but she has a general build that is not specific to ppc or warzone
I mean rose builds even in wz depend on the strat as well
She can go 4bathlon, 2cottie 2darwin (if wata is in the team to carry Bathlon) or 4cottie (if using 2.5 rot strat)
Btw @icy otter @carmine roost I realized that when doing 2.5 rot Rosetta there's no point in using darwin
Better off using 4cot so that the first ult actually gets buffed
buoyant hornet
4 patton 2 darwin 2 bunsen is the optimal?
I assume you should be able to at least kill knight and chaos with that
sick flower
hell 😭
buoyant hornet
Hell may or may not need to use an ult but idk
Assuming you have the same reso and cub invest as the espada video
Ss3 hanying shred is the only remaining differential factor
sick flower
all S rank cubs
buoyant hornet
all S rank cubs
Yeah idk if you can work the same runs as the video lol
No way to find out without actual testing
sick flower
ill find my way out i just need to have the optimal build for rosetta
i dont need some hard ppc specific build
im a casual
buoyant hornet
ill find my way out i just need to have the optimal build for rosetta
Like I said it depends on whether you can kill without ult or not so idk 
sick flower
Like I said it depends on whether you can kill without ult or not so idk <:lulw:...
i for sure need ult
buoyant hornet
Also can run cottie instead of nimue to do a funny strat that does ult BEFORE white orb
peak halo
Ss3 need cott to fast ult
buoyant hornet
Ss3 need cott to fast ult<:hmmThinkers:860882439513440256>
It's actually doable at ss0 too fun fact
But I genuinely don't know if there's any practical use for it
peak halo
Same
I only used 4sig 4patton build
sick flower
i dont want fast ult
peak halo
Ohh and 4sig 4 cott
sick flower
fast ult will NOT kill that mecha
peak halo
Need to use qte well
sick flower
Also can ask pwo
If ss0 honse
ss3 horse
peak halo
Then donno
I only played last ib
Dino not touched
Maybie tomorow
But i guess u will fast ult and do white its kill
sick flower
i highly doubt
peak halo
It's actually doable at ss0 too fun fact
Ss3 honse can charge back qte?
buoyant hornet
Ss3 honse can charge back qte?
Wdym?
buoyant hornet
In 3s if used qte its gain back fastly
I was talking about ult > white orb strat am I confused or did we change topic
peak halo
Kinda changed a bit
Cuz wanna seen strat
But i guess i doubt it cuz u need insta white so
No time
sick flower
guys
ill do white orb > ult
ss3 rose
give me build
pls
@peak halo @buoyant hornet
i need to get the boss done already
peak halo
Im noob with honse build
I just 4sig and patton
And kill cuz 3s honse
Han 4dv volt and cath
limpid folio
Is Solacetune still worth it? She's the only one I'm missing. Or go for SS3 Ish?
peak halo
Vero 2 keats 4 philiph 2 rich
orchid owl
Is Solacetune still worth it? She's the only one I'm missing. Or go for SS3 Ish?
what about nanami?
peak halo
If alisa will 4 signa 4philiph
orchid owl
hanging is a very low priority unit considering her age and how weak she is in the meta
ishmael might see reduced field time in her only spot with nirvatia
but nanami still gets field time in most if not all her teams
limpid folio
what about nanami?
Ah yes, I forgot. SS3 Nanami, ss3 Ish or Solacetune?
chilly glade
Ah yes, I forgot. SS3 Nanami, ss3 Ish or Solacetune?
priortize ss3 nana, trust
orchid owl
Ah yes, I forgot. SS3 Nanami, ss3 Ish or Solacetune?
with all I've said I'd say nanami is your best bet
but
send huaxu
golden merlin
Ah yes, I forgot. SS3 Nanami, ss3 Ish or Solacetune?
Nanaknight
simple dew
yup
median shell
fossil urchin
normal sierra
Hi grandpa joe
get back to pgr, we in the golden times now 
sick flower
Nothing for Slash yet
4 sig 4 cot worked really good on slash rosetta
rotund fox
@orchid owl Citrus can i do solo shakes Vera if she's 3S?
simple dew
yes
golden merlin
Probably
rotund fox
Planning to 3S once her rerun came
golden merlin
Hi citrom
rotund fox
Shutup okay
golden merlin
Shutup okay
K whel
rotund fox
Door have 35 pulls on arrival
normal sierra
piece of paper vera clanker and still don't have sss+ 
normal sierra
cuz you 🥝
golden merlin
cuz you 🥝 <:KareninaDisappointed:677345914179944456>
Hush
sick flower
Nvm he is sss only <:WanshiShock:995393526122684566>
fake fan
golden merlin
Why i got s+ palefire but not hypnos
sick flower
Why i got s+ palefire but not hypnos
#1 lee fan
rotund fox
Also we always have enough pulls for full pity
golden merlin
#1 lee fan
Bad luck on blue
sick flower
Also we always have enough pulls for full pity
good morning smart ass
prime dome
Ishmael ss3
Oblivion ss3
Epitaph ss3
Lucid dreamer sss
Rest ss
Who should I pick?
sick flower
Ishmael ss3
Oblivion ss3
Epitaph ss3
Lucid dreamer sss
Rest ss
Who should I pick...
nanami
golden merlin
Ishmael ss3
Oblivion ss3
Epitaph ss3
Lucid dreamer sss
Rest ss
Who should I pick...
WANSHI
normal sierra
no when you don't hab nana even on ss3 yet
sick flower
Im thinking about pushing parhelion to sss
normal sierra
and where will you get the other fraudmael copy?
golden merlin
He is already sss bruh
I thought you were asking which to get to sss or ss3
Get Nanaknight
prime dome
Aight i guess it's nana then
golden merlin
prime dome
Appreciate it folks
golden merlin
barren plank
Ishmael ss3
Oblivion ss3
Epitaph ss3
Lucid dreamer sss
Rest ss
Who should I pick...
Nanami SS3
golden merlin
Mycledra cooking up an essay
barren plank
You will eventually be able to SSS Teddy, Epitaph and Luna w vouchers (SSS Teddy first then Luna, but make sure you will have enough vouchers for SSS Nirvatia as well)
golden merlin
You will eventually be able to SSS Teddy, Epitaph and Luna w vouchers (SSS Teddy...
So how does a f2p ever catch up
barren plank
Oh wait no Lilith SSS too
Um
Teddy SSS can wait
Teddy SS3 > Nirv SSS > Lillith SSS > Teddy SSS >= SSS Luna
Imo
golden merlin
f2p never gonna have enough vouchers for this 
By the time they get all that there’s gonna be 5 more voucher units
noble zinc
So how does a f2p ever catch up
sick flower
f2p never gonna have enough vouchers for this <:MeiHigh:1381208071753302026>
By...
just spend 20 dollars monthly
its worth it
@golden merlin is ishmael stronger than luna
golden merlin
just spend 20 dollars monthly
-# i do
sick flower
with leap
golden merlin
<@797641278694752287> is ishmael stronger than luna
Idk 
Never played nihil
sick flower
@barren plank is ishmael > luna
BRO SOME RANDOM MADE ME QUESTION MY COMMON SENSE OMFG
noble zinc
BRO SOME RANDOM MADE ME QUESTION MY COMMON SENSE OMFG
Luna>
golden merlin
<:4worrywhale:852988413362569227>
normal sierra
<:1owhh:1205017833348665384>
repost it, cmon
normal sierra
why off ele at spooder woman? 
noble zinc
Don't know
median shell
normal sierra
gonna? it's already ded 
solid kraken
not sure why you're providing help for a dead game, but u do u
noble zinc
why off ele at spooder woman? <:LivSussybaka:860803752822833162>
Wut 2s3 fire team clear on that fat boss
Hrll
normal sierra
you asked what's gonna happen to that channel
it already happened, that channel is ded since forever
reading comprehension
stray siren
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/663286717985456157
Use it for grok
@grok is this true
solid kraken
you asked what's gonna happen to that channel
it already happened, that channel ...
people just say that meme too often
normal sierra
Wut 2s3 fire team clear on that fat boss
fire team? on who? fat dude gwynn?
noble zinc
fire team? on who? fat dude gwynn?
Ys
normal sierra
14s with pyro > vera rot
noble zinc
normal sierra
https://youtu.be/x1hlURK3beU
this one
noble zinc
How this bij doing 16-17 clear 
normal sierra
10 billion time stop spam
noble zinc
barren plank
So how does a f2p ever catch up
normal sierra
people just say that meme too often
I mean, I say it too sometimes, but context matters
barren plank
<@1110364640564744325> is ishmael > luna
Luna's the most important part of the team
And arguably the strongest damage wise for most invests
sick flower
Luna's the most important part of the team
i know i know that newbie made me question it for a moment 😭
wind hemlock
How does a newbie convince you of that
normal sierra
lets see how bricc are my seer tin-can runs without fred qte bots
barren plank
How does a newbie convince you of that <:WorryCommandant:860198708415168549>
You overthink and u doubt urself
That's happened to me so many times
wind hemlock
barren plank
But it might also just be because Im generally much less confident in my ability
noble zinc
<:KM_FatherHug:1083397062277726288>
Me back to pilot work 
barren plank
The one good thing about low confidence though is that u usually don't tend to have a big and fragile ego
normal sierra
8s hell mado with ss q* was possible without fred qte, so me on copium hope that these runs will go well too 
golden merlin
Wha
barren plank
8s hell mado with ss q* was possible without fred qte, so me on copium hope that...
233 old ice could already 8s knight
233 w teddy could probably easily 8/8/8
normal sierra
hell 8s is anything but easy, it has an insanely strict timing on every single move you do or you won't have enuff dmg for the kill
gray totem
Door have 35 pulls on arrival
why lie
rotund fox
why lie
WHAT
you actually
came back
The moment when someone mentioned your name
oh he gone
noble zinc
【【战双】测试服空区紫盾相关说明以及其余优化-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/iPArZ11
Void got divided into 2?
With and without shields
wind hemlock
Yep
Void became a normal element now
And disruption one affix of 5 others incoming?
rotund fox
I mean there seems shield version too
Why do you have the same pfp as Nukelao
where Nuke
noble zinc
sick flower
And disruption one affix of 5 others incoming?
disruption is apparently the second affix of nihil
like raydiance being the second affix of lightning
and plasma beam is the first affix of lightning
i was hoping for a disruption rework but
this is good too
noble zinc
<@820517037284917299> do you tap an orb before holding yellow without actually c...
Yes
normal sierra
turns out fred qte bot was fraud afterall
all runs can be done without it lul
carmine roost
noble zinc
@buoyant hornet lso your light 222 or 22.32
stray siren
turns out fred qte bot was fraud afterall <:KareninaDisappointed:677345914179944...
Was patched iirc
noble zinc
Sea got bear spam 
buoyant hornet
<@640508883160268850> lso your light 222 or 22.32
Ss3 team lmfao
noble zinc
2s liv don't have?
buoyant hornet
I got ss3 liv dmc skip stonks
buoyant hornet
2s liv don't have?<a:LilacCryRun:996193561441738823>
Nope but gin has ss0
noble zinc
Wut full invest
deft apex
I mean there seems shield version too
void =/= disruption now
buoyant hornet
turns out fred qte bot was fraud afterall <:KareninaDisappointed:677345914179944...
They killed it this patch it was good before
deft apex
although only void units have disruption affix
noble zinc
void =/= disruption now
understood late a bit yes now got it
normal sierra
They killed it this patch it was good before
no, it was just placebo
all the runs we did with fred qte bots can be done without fred anyway lul
leaden gust
Im building dark team rn, lilith, rosetta and Bianca, all ss with sig. Who wears bathlon? And who wears cottie? Bc my Bianca cant do 5 ult rotation in warzone
sick flower
wear
normal sierra
Was patched iirc
yes, but that's not what I said
I'm saying it was all just a fraud, cuz we can do all those fred qte bot runs without fred
using the same old samantha/lantern on qtes yield the exact same result
stray siren
Okok
leaden gust
Im building dark team rn, lilith, rosetta and Bianca, all ss with sig. Who wears...
Help
buoyant hornet
no, it was just placebo
all the runs we did with fred qte bots can be done witho...
Not always tbh
It wasn't placebo at all lmao there was a real dmg diff
normal sierra
the placebo is thinking it can't be done with regular qte bot mems
plot twist: it can
checking back 2 of my runs I just did now, I actually got more dmg with regular qte bot setup this time compared to my fred qte runs lul
buoyant hornet
the placebo is thinking it can't be done with regular qte bot mems
plot twist: i...
To this day sss0 chiko runs got +1s after fred nerf lmfao
Also some low invest lightning runs with fred aren't possible now
Or are cancerous tight execution
normal sierra
Also some low invest lightning runs with fred aren't possible now
dunno how low we talking about, but I just did those runs on overseer now
fred not needed, same times for the ss3 runs
and it was easy to do, done with all runs in less than 30 mins
buoyant hornet
dunno how low we talking about, but I just did those runs on overseer now
fred n...
Ss0
There was a score jump after fred discovery
Well I don't have ss0 liv anymore anyway
normal sierra
so far, all my fred runs could be done with normal settings too
of course I dunno about the runs I didn't do myself
I'm just saying people were too trigger happy to jump on the bandwagon without testing the runs themselves
(me included, sadly - was just a waste of ht mats )
noble zinc
so far, all my fred runs could be done with normal settings too
of course I dunn...
New plane 
buoyant hornet
I'm just saying people were too trigger happy to jump on the bandwagon without t...
Tbf even the scores that could be done without fred, often times fred made it much easier or more consistent
buoyant hornet
I'm just saying people were too trigger happy to jump on the bandwagon without t...
Damn why did you ht fred 😭😭😭
noble zinc
Yes
normal sierra
Damn why did you ht fred 😭😭😭
some off element knight runs needed fraudmael dmg for the kill
forest crag
meta help is dead, and most people have gone casual, might as well merge it back with gen help? it’d probably make chat feel alive again
normal sierra
buoyant hornet
some off element knight runs needed fraudmael dmg for the kill <:BombiCry:102955...
Dayum
buoyant hornet
meta help is dead, and most people have gone casual, might as well merge it back...
Nah we'd rather keep misinfo to the minimum tbh lol
carmine roost
some off element knight runs needed fraudmael dmg for the kill <:BombiCry:102955...
Average PPC experience
buoyant hornet
Previous channel was overrun by non-meta casuals pretending to be meta helpers
noble zinc
Nah we'd rather keep misinfo to the minimum tbh lol
Just use hax
carmine roost
Nah we'd rather keep misinfo to the minimum tbh lol
At this point, almost everything is misinfo already
buoyant hornet
Previous channel was overrun by non-meta casuals pretending to be meta helpers
I think we all know a certain infamous one but I won't name names lmfao
simple dew
noble zinc
carmine roost
"what's this new Chara build?
"What's the new Chara rotation?"
On day 1
sharp grove
<:KareninaGasp:910236491362488370>
dog
carmine roost
And then u get suspicious answer
sharp grove
forest crag
At this point, almost everything is misinfo already
[real](#📨・meta-help message)
carmine roost
But at the same time can't deny it because nobody simply even know the real answer
"I did my own testing"
buoyant hornet
And then u get suspicious answer
Tbf that's just how meta discovery rolls without sync, it's not the same as someone trying to convince everyone that Dante is good for fire wz
forest crag
#IAmNotAMetaHelper #IAmTheMeta
buoyant hornet
carmine roost
Tbf that's just how meta discovery rolls without sync, it's not the same as some...
I mean it's not really entirely wrong on Dante part either
Still better than hyperfalse is true at least
Definitely not best, but certainly within "good"
You just don't know where you're going to get caught with the hook
orchid agate
the placebo is thinking it can't be done with regular qte bot mems
plot twist: i...
this reads to me you used it improperly
carmine roost
Player counts in this game that actually takes things seriously being near to extinction doesn't help either
buoyant hornet
Definitely not best, but certainly within "good"
I remember there were #allegations by that certain someone that Vera did no dmg
Then we asked them to record vera rot
It was....something
forest crag
But at the same time can't deny it because nobody simply even know the real answ...
imagine we used to have bots that told us what meta builds to run for whatever you were doing, with people dropping scores and others making YouTube videos about rotations. it’s not like that anymore. meta is dead for good. this game has nothing good left to offer the meta players who did all the real work. #MetaHelpIsDead #IAmTheNewMeta
buoyant hornet
replaced w/ dv bug abuse
Dv is bugged since when?
orchid agate
since horse patch
carmine roost
And it's already late to be found too
orchid agate
you give to both units on QTE, they refresh themselves
buoyant hornet
imagine we used to have bots that told us what meta builds to run for whatever y...
We're still making videos it's just there's less people doing it consistently
opaque ridge
imagine we used to have bots that told us what meta builds to run for whatever you were doing, with people dropping scores and others making YouTube videos about rotations. it’s not like that anymore. meta is dead for good. this game has nothing good left to offer the meta players who did all the real work. #MetaHelpIsDead #IAmTheNewMeta
buoyant hornet
As for rotation guides, there are still some being made but it's tricky without sync
buoyant hornet
We're all discovering rots together
carmine roost
You just don't get to say things as random as before because how lacking everyone at this point
buoyant hornet
Only one person would dare to make an hour long video about a "complete" character guide
carmine roost
Still hate that one guy
buoyant hornet
Only one person would dare to make an hour long video about a "complete" charact...
With 24 hours of release
carmine roost
What are they even doing with their life staying in this trash game
orchid owl
Only one person would dare to make an hour long video about a "complete" charact...
Spider 2B? 
buoyant hornet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ukPl3x2C8
????? Lmfaoo?
buoyant hornet
Spider 2B? <:lmao:992060775562760203>
Nah there's an even better one
forest crag
We're still making videos it's just there's less people doing it consistently
is there a chance to bring back the bot?
orchid owl
is there a chance to bring back the bot?
All gone
buoyant hornet
is there a chance to bring back the bot?
Fenrear made a replacement but he's still too busy to properly maintain it yet
orchid owl
Even the remake bot was cancelled
buoyant hornet
<:KareninaGasp:910236491362488370>
I don't wanna name names because he has a tendency to crash out whenever someone criticizes him by name here lmfao
buoyant hornet
Talking about "you don't do research" to setsu of all people 💀
normal sierra
this reads to me you used it improperly
or maybe it wasn't needed in my runs anyway
buoyant hornet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ukPl3x2C8
How does this thing work btw lmfao
orchid agate
or maybe it wasn't needed in my runs anyway <:KareninaSlap:706607412605353984>
half the max capped score runs used fred b/c of 1x bar diff
was never placebo enabling those kills
noble zinc
I forgot how to sp delay
carmine roost
I don't wanna name names because he has a tendency to crash out whenever someone...
Klaige?
Narushio?
Which one
orchid agate
How does this thing work btw lmfao
you give both QTE units dv
use their QTE simultaneously
make sure you use them off ICD unless 6dv
normal sierra
half the max capped score runs used fred b/c of 1x bar diff
was never placebo en...
I talk about my runs, not yours
how would you know what is needed for my ss3 runs?
orchid agate
turns out fred qte bot was fraud afterall <:KareninaDisappointed:677345914179944...
you never mentioned your runs
when you kept saying "our" and "all"
normal sierra
you mean, you didn't read the convo further than my 1st message
orchid agate
mb if I skimmed it then
buoyant hornet
make sure you use them off ICD unless 6dv
Is it worth using often or just situational?
Is it better than 4sam for example
orchid agate
situational
worked for the 11s kill because
- was off by 0.5x bar w/ 4sam | old 11s build non-fred
- long ass TLCs going throughout the run to enable its abuse twice
- enough dmg from dv buffed ult1 for 1's reasoning to be negated
- this kills works even better w/ the bug abuse specifically because dv from nanami isn't up by the time you enter on ishmael as well
orchid agate
when you say new unit, do you mean our current patch or the one in beta
fast bay
current patch...
orchid agate
current investment and for what team (true slash, dark, void, ...)
fast bay
dark
orchid agate
just go atk/class for generic build then
buoyant hornet
4) this kills works even better w/ the bug abuse specifically because dv from na...
Ic that's interesting
noble zinc
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1447937004385075392
This need update
golden merlin
This need update <a:HueSmh:994192375427641344>
fast bay
what tbd mean?
noble zinc
Both SS0 and ss3
buoyant hornet
what resonance do i need for the new unit?
Arete?
fast bay
ye
buoyant hornet
dark
If your team doesn't involve SSS bianca or higher, then rose runs 6x atk 6x ult
carmine roost
Dead in the trenches
normal sierra
isn't he still posting some vids sometimes?
I swear I saw his name on the vid sharing channel
golden merlin
Talking about "you don't do research" to setsu of all people 💀
Klaige
fast bay
arete kiT looks so confusing so much....
normal sierra
horse kit gut, finally a char that is fun and fast in ppc
noble zinc
https://discord.com/channels/595893569609269251/1447937004385075392
@deft apex
ss0honse/sss Lilith
4p sig 4cot +15,ult/ no Bianca
4p sig 4 bath +15,ult/ SS3 Bianca with(blue orb)
4p sig 4cot +15,ult/ SS3 Bianca with(blue orb rot)
4p sig 4bath +15,ult/ SS0 Bianca with(ultspam)
(better not use if got SSS wata)
Ss3honse/sss Lilith
4pc sig 4cot +15,ult/no Bianca
4pc sig 4cot +15,class ult mixed/with SS3 Bianca
4pc sig 4bath +15,class ult mixed/with SS3 Bianca
golden merlin
<@302759222855335937>
ss0honse/sss Lilith
4p sig 4cot +15,ult/ no Bianca
4p si...
Ples update that message in faq 
deft apex
golden merlin
I sent like 4 people over there but it’s outdated
deft apex
that's too many
noble zinc
That's how it is yes
normal sierra
too less *
ppc sets not included
golden merlin
noble zinc
[WorryDumb](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/935798836683767858.webp?size=48&na...
Can Kick with bonca sets 
golden merlin
noble zinc
She useless below sss anyway
rose yew
Don’t forget to save for s brs banner in five weeks time
normal sierra
miku faq would be memorable
carmine roost
arete kiT looks so confusing so much....
True
You need a degree in literature to get a glimpse of it
nova forum
golden merlin
Don’t forget to save for s brs banner in five weeks time <:EvilLiv:9769157418886...
Wha
muted fractal
which resonance should i get for ishmael?
golden merlin
which resonance should i get for ishmael?
For what use
Nihil team?
Amplifier?
Tank?
muted fractal
For what use
nihil team
golden merlin
Idk
Also maybe changes next patch when Nirvatia releases
For now maybe dw about the resos? Idk
muted fractal
aight
noble zinc
nihil team
What rank
Full invest
There also next patch nihil amp
Better wait a bit
noble zinc
Wpn or memo u asking
golden merlin
Better wait a bit
wow i was right
muted fractal
Wpn or memo u asking
weapon
noble zinc
Prio wise
Dlt-dd- incan tank
Dlt-sar-gs amp
muted fractal
Prio wise
Dlt-dd- incan tank
Dlt-sar-gs amp
ima just wait till next patch
ty though
golden merlin
ima just wait till next patch
Well, weapon resos are free changable
Could just reso once
Dlt for now and able to change it as needed
muted fractal
Well, weapon resos are free changable
Could just reso once
only got two in my inventory, and i wanted to full reson alpha whenever she comes out
golden merlin
only got two in my inventory, and i wanted to full reson alpha whenever she come...
Fair enough
golden star
Should I get Bianca to ss3 or vera ?
golden merlin
Should I get Bianca to ss3 or vera ?
Vera
golden merlin
Yea
fluid gulch
Midianca
golden merlin
I have ss3 
fluid gulch
🧱
golden merlin
Blue banner + half anniv = sss 
golden merlin
Not really
Only really improves her nihil
And Nirvatia might completely powercreep
golden star
Welp
carmine roost
Someone told me ss3 Bianca isn't worth it
It's kinda too late already yeh
golden merlin
Should I get Bianca to ss3 or vera ?
From what anyways?
golden star
From what anyways?
Blue banner
golden star
I'm an f2p and i hit like 15-18m scores in wz but I saw someone on reddit saying they f2p and hit 25m average
My ego shattered
golden merlin
Ss3 vera not that big also
Fake vera fan
golden star
Why want to use right away
Afaik no new units to be added in blue banner after this?
golden merlin
Afaik no new units to be added in blue banner after this?
Wha
plain oyster
Fake vera fan
golden merlin
Afaik no new units to be added in blue banner after this?
Units get added to blue 2 patches after debut
golden merlin
golden star
Units get added to blue 2 patches after debut
But someone told me Bianca last to be added
noble zinc
golden merlin
But someone told me Bianca last to be added
As in most recently added maybe?
noble zinc
But someone told me Bianca last to be added
Don't trust just someone
golden star
As in most recently added maybe?
ig me dumb
keen meteor
@noble zinc what 232 fire score this week?
golden star
😂✌️
keen meteor
Legend
normal sierra
wz balders realizing they just bald a longer ppc
golden merlin
But someone told me Bianca last to be added
Liv never made it to blue banner because phylotree
noble zinc
<@820517037284917299> what 232 fire score this week?
8.5+
golden star
Liv never made it to blue banner because phylotree
She was the first and last right
plain oyster
As in most recently added maybe?
Vero in that already, next patch teddy is added
golden merlin
She was the first and last right
First yes
Probably not last
plain oyster
golden star
First yes
Probably not last
Shii
golden merlin
Vero in that already, next patch teddy is added
golden star
We riot?
normal sierra
no, devs listened
golden star
Not huge difference anyways imo
Cus we dont backpull
Lol
golden merlin
no, devs listened <:BiancaInnocent:703262391261069352>
golden merlin
Where that me lost again
Nuke why the name change
normal sierra
cuz he hates the noname nobody, and I approve 
noble zinc
@normal sierra know how to fix this?
golden merlin
<@286640328180760578> know how to fix this?
Fix what…?
normal sierra
fix wut?
golden merlin
Yes
noble zinc
Time?
normal sierra
no, it shouldn't have a cooldown, if you mean the buff from heal
it says "The duration resets every time it is triggered"
golden merlin
Wait wha
Like guin buff?
noble zinc
no, it shouldn't have a cooldown, if you mean the buff from heal
Does ish qte heal got range
normal sierra
guine is not what we talk about
keen meteor
232 as in ?
As in ss0 lucia sss wata ss0 vera
normal sierra
Does ish qte heal got range
no idea, never paid any attention to that 
halcyon lodge
means you miss the buff, just restart
normal sierra
but I know I managed to dodge some heal from other qte bots like lumi and empy in the past
noble zinc
golden star
So my NA server legend fire wz score 6m on
2.32.32 211 111 good?
golden merlin
guine is not what we talk about
Where do we see the Observation Notes
golden star
What to use for ss3
golden merlin
Where do we see the Observation Notes
Like specific effects on qte and stuff
Either im blind or huaxu doesnt say
normal sierra
<@286640328180760578> know how to fix this?
actually, I don't see any heal numbers here at all, so yeah, you prolly dodged that heal qte kek
noble zinc
💔 what should it be atleast
7.5 around
golden star
7.5 around
time to mald, any dalao rot you have pls
noble zinc
So my NA server legend fire wz score 6m on
2.32.32 211 111 good?
R1 vera nvm
golden star
Ss3 lucia
noble zinc
Ignore that 7.5
golden star
R1 vera <:1owhh:1205017833348665384> nvm
Should I r2 i got 6 unused reso
normal sierra
Where do we see the Observation Notes
dunno, forgot
I just checked another amp description, it's the same for all, no cooldown on heal buff, time just refreshes
noble zinc
Sar equip
noble zinc
No
golden merlin
dunno, forgot <:LivEh:677347179324768273>
I just checked another amp descriptio...
I looked at ferals and dont see a heal buff
normal sierra
it's at the very bottom of the core passive novel
golden merlin
noble zinc
golden star
<a:HueSmh:994192375427641344>
Ehh I forgot to mention one thing
normal sierra
I stopped questioning that a long time ago
golden star
My wata sss
keen meteor
So its 2.132.1
golden star
Yes
normal sierra
horse orb descriptions are littered at so many places, it's just incredibly tedious to even find all of them lul
keen meteor
11m or bust
golden star
https://youtu.be/iHjJCwvY18M?si=DVLZ8O8Uk9sh4ue4
Thank youu
golden star
11m or bust
Say what
golden merlin
horse orb descriptions are littered at so many places, it's just incredibly tedi...
Kuso lock in 
golden star
ELEVEN MILLION POINTS
That's double of what i currently have😭😭
keen meteor
That's double of what i currently have😭😭
Yeah so better get to work buddy
golden star
Yeah so better get to work buddy
Okay dalao🙏
keen meteor
Okay dalao🙏
Good luck 
keen meteor
People here will help as long as ure willing to learn
golden star
I'll come back with higher scores
keen meteor
golden star
Can't promise 11m cuz that sounds impossible
keen meteor
Alright tag me when u come back
golden star
Alright tag me when u come back
Okayy
noble zinc
Nuke why the name change
That bij staying at s0 4star in my acc
Free reso getting least next patch nice
golden star
Alright tag me when u come back
The rot has reso 323 while mine is 212 so how much should I expect
golden star
Okayy
noble zinc
golden star
Yessir
plain oyster
Ignore R3s
golden star
https://youtu.be/iHjJCwvY18M?si=DVLZ8O8Uk9sh4ue4
Only thing I don't understand is how you managing two vera ult, why is my vera so slow
I can follow everything else
noble zinc
Only thing I don't understand is how you managing two vera ult, why is my vera s...
Dodge cancels doing ?
For core
noble zinc
That's why
golden star
I see
golden star
You got specific vera vid on your channel?
noble zinc
None
Got I think wait
Can't find
Later will ping if seeing
It's just hold ba after that core goes down dodge
golden star
Ohh thanks
quiet lily
proven flame
do you guys have any tips? i used vera r2, nanami r0 and liv r1
proven flame
homeless
golden merlin
No Ish?
proven flame
no weapon 21
golden merlin
No Feral?
golden merlin
Use ish
quiet lily
give nanami r1
golden merlin
Ish is just best corresponding amp/tank if team has the one and one is missing
golden merlin
she's better?
Well yea
Ish will be lightning amp
Vera barely doing anything
As a fire amp
proven flame
give nanami r1
i don't have her weapon
golden merlin
noble zinc
worthy widget
What nana build for light wz
tacit tiger
worthy widget
Ss3 r1 nana ss0 liv r2 ish r1
noble zinc
<:EvilLiv:976915741888626738>
Not to be made public
proven flame
this is okay? i don't have currency for harmonizing guin yet
noble zinc
Ss3 r1 nana ss0 liv r2 ish r1
Hershel4 2 cot 2ein
tacit tiger
Not to be made public
It's not even final
noble zinc
It's not even final
Yes so said public not available
worthy widget
Where’s that image that teaches the shortcut to tell someone ur teams invest
quiet lily
bn
noble zinc
quiet lily
icy otter
Btw <@701035558322831421> <@1432589103098237121> I realized that when doing 2.5 ...
Yes the 9.6 I had before you logged in was with 4 cot
Last week
Then u haxed
proven flame
barely but thanks everyone
noble zinc
@icy otter light 222 7already Got
noble zinc
icy otter
Light trash
noble zinc
Why
icy otter
worthy widget
Ss3 r1 nana ss0 liv r2 ish r1
So this is 2.122 121?
noble zinc
Sp delay play
golden merlin
Not to be made public
Where even from
icy otter
Sp delay on 24 fps and phone
noble zinc
So this is 2.122 121?
It's 22.12 if ish ss0
graceful summit
So this is 2.122 121?
22.32 211
noble zinc
Where even from
Fabio
icy otter
Yea I crit on fire and burn
icy otter
Light and df sucks because I'm device locked
buoyant hornet
Wut your light score
icy otter
quiet lily
me 2.4m leader 
noble zinc
Ah right SS3 forgot