#📨・meta-help
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Oh nice
So
There are multiple layers of things that you can improve starting from the easiest change to more deep optimization if you think you'll need it
Although as for now, I'm still doing my work for like the next 1 hours or so
So I wouldn't be able to give you the answer properly
I'll ping you in here later if you don't mind that
But one thing that's certain first is that knows that in pgr, timer are ticking in real time with barely any form to pause/stop it
That's including buff, debuff and passive skills from your character
If you think that you can be faster, you definitely want to be faster too because if you were able to do more attacks within certain duration of buff, the dmg difference to doing less attacks within a certain amount of time is quite noticeable especially in longer run such warzone when your dmg adds up until the end of 2 minutes run.

Oh also if you're easily overwhelmed with too much text you should tell me that too, I can jump in VC if that's what you prefer
It's better to have a different starter animation than ur starting character so that you get a slight faster start of the battle
The rotations in general could be a lot faster
Selena rotations can be changed per rot to account for wave differences and breakpoints
You can dodge cancel Hanying's yellows for a quicker rotation
Bad approach 


@floral fable hmm the run definitely needs polishing but there's some underlying flaws with speed and decision making that will need to be improved over time as you practice and learn
I can give some specifics but I'll wait until you're available, in case it's better to discuss these things in real time
For 22.32 111 it's alright 
Don't know if 22.32.3 would make it 6m in na hero
10% more phys
Hmmm
Mald not to lose stacks on vero
am slack no more mood to mald
Nuke when halp coop
how to 3s nana burn w/ 2s vero 
Curious too

Whels problem
how to 111 burn
2s gacha unt but 3s tank
dante nana vero

U still too hax
Hi chat, I'm new here. Is Karen still good?

what team can I play here if I don't have any Ultima slash characters?
rosetta?
usually people do glacio or just the strongest one u have atm
Who should I get at the selector if Im caught up to all new characters yall
who should I get, Epitaph (to complete darkflow), Ishmael, or Pyroath?
you have none of those 3?
yes
you can hold the selector till April iirc, I'd do that and wait for beta characters to see what to do
for me just ish if rushing, affix content u focus on endgame
no umbra ppc also 
prob 4-5 hrs from now
oh nice
Are we cooked? Free nirvatia like teddy but still S rank
cooked vouchers yes
No problem then 
I wonder if Nirvatia will be worse than Lilith because Ish won't be a breaker 
find out later in beta
Funny news huh
Can anyone explain the Nanaknight Veronica anti synergy in ignition team? Heard someone saying that to me once
s-rank beta > somehow only 9 days = ok kuro
Shoot I didn't see this lol if you still wanna do it then go ahead
Wtf 9 days? 💀💀
This is gonna be a disaster
What do you mean exactly
Knight then doing
@graceful summit will ping you
I have no idea man, someone once said using Nanaknight and Vero together in the ignition team is bad for some reason
nvm it's 8 days
they cooking...
themselves


Help pls
That's a damn mess
💀💀😭
Bad...? 😭
I'm tired waiting for 10min and still not finding a lobby
time to put a lot of dissatisfied on survey
as if it will do anything
I mean it has issues with the gauge maintenance if you don't know what you're doing to manage the gauge but it's not "bad"
It's just tricky
Oh so I wasn't the only one who had that

@noble zinc ori woke up
I think i said my team line up was Dante Vero Nanaknight, and someone pointed out to me that I should either do Vera Nanaknight, or Veronica Unc instead
No idea what this "anti synergy" they meant was
What invest is your dante exactly
it'll just keep asking u questions that don't matter lol
Actually what invest is the whole team
SSS r1
nana?
Uh hold on
Ignition team is a weird one
They perform worse if they are full
And the others?
pull up the huaxu
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SSS r1 Dante
SS0 r1 Nanaknight
SS0 r0 Veronica
Not yet
ss nonomi 
Only did lightning
whel harder
nirvatia S rank? smh kuso

She's free tho
Kuro asks in the questionnaire
Do you want more A rank or more S rank unit?
Well this is their answers

Yeah shockingly so lol, maybe they found her lack of a real affix makes it ok to make her free
i need to find a sugar mommy for SSS nirvatia
Actually wr get 50 free shards

Well, free permanent S-rank is just A-rank release patch but better
Fate always lurking 
he doesn't sleep
Imma use skulls on Nvidia


Damn
These SS3 Liv havers smh
also I hate that lightning zone shares the same stage as mixed zone
liv deserves best
No your sss nana 
Yeah if you use skulls you only need 40 shards to sss
when is AMD coming
is that legend?
I'm trapped here until 2 weeks later
i can see it
Not available with vouchers?
bro bullying in hero. smh
espada and I demoted from legend
I got the funny 6.9M on ignition, I won't mald for more

wha
No she's voucherable as usual

So no A rank patch huh
Does that mean kamui A rank?
yes
very unlikely
Pray Kamui is fire tank/breaker so ur ignition is saved


imagine kamui A rank.
alpha A rank

nuhuh
I sincerely hope there's no glacio next week
Dont jinx it bro
this will make the miniscule playerbase of PGR microscopic
We gonna become an endangered species dawg
pack it up bois

the kiwi virus is real
Yeah lmfao
How much expect
2.332
Burn
Wut you usually get I mean
Reso 212
S cubs
8.9-9.4m unless inflated score this week
Idr tbh 

How to read the number btw, I know it's the investment but i have no idea how to read it
Wut stat you do
This was my last burn video so far
https://youtu.be/70ZjC8quEGw
SS3 Nanami 4Herschell 4Cottie + Incandescence (SS cub)
SS0 Veronica 4Shakespeare 4Cottie + Axial Ray & Glorious Spear
SSS Epitaph 4Davinci 4Alphonse + Domain Deconstruction (preferably x6 Tank Class mem resos)
First ever 9m as a F2P. Watanabe usually provides better scores for ignition than Vera since he adds more shred but more importantly, sw...
Where that notation sheet
Then on another week I got like 9.3
There was a sheet can't find later will give
Mostly
2= 2s
2.3 =2s3
3= 3s
Next number after that goes no of reso
Like
222 222 means
2s all with everyone got 2 wpn reso
How much your score
wut zone
how to vero? i totally forgot
Invest?

333
I'll try that
I hate burn.
This team too hard. Even this run is not fully clean - but it's just so hard to make it to the end of the fight and hitting all the breakpoints properly (and without fucking up anything). This week is definitely worse than last week - the wave progression is waaaaaaaaay worse, but I've tweaked the rot so it's a bit better and heavi...
@spiral merlin whale vero burn inputs
Description see
thanks
short rot > long rot
im sure u already know how they go
I actually never touched sss burn yet 
I barely played s+ vero in physical
So idk how her sss affects multi rot
on first swap you blue orb > ult1 > 2x yellow > ult2 > 2x3p blue > ult1 > 3x3p red > hold yellow > ult2
subsequent swaps same except no blue orb starter
can straight into ult1
ult 1 is hold, right?
trigger burn yh
yes you dont wanna activate phys
Depends if Nirvatia have dps capabilities
does nanami has to hold 4pc heisen too if my liv already has it? or ill do 4pc sig of liv + 2pc cottie coz idh liv weap, then 4pc sig nanami + 4pc heisen both ss0 btw.
Surely they'll not make another vero again
So far the units i skipped is vero and Ishmael
it depends if nirv is too strong that luna is powercrept
Idk, I put heisen on both
Luna is needed in the team surely she will not
signs for powercreep:
- get a leap
- be the oldest member in the team
yes. luna getting powercrept 
If they make another nihil annihilator that's her time
Not linking the 20m run is illegal activity
5 S ranks in 6 months les goooo
who stats will fraudmael even take
there is no nihil tank
will she just become honse
This zone can't use that opener
4sig 2cot 2ein nana
oh ok thanks
and btw im using ish ss0 as an amp is she good in there?
ive never bother building 21 so.
Bianca SSS 5 ult strat on Void
Ish good yeh
ok thanks
I'm conflicted on the selector. I have 3 SSS amps, 2 sss tanks, is there any point in getting ss3 ishmael? I'm thinking of building towards sss nanami instead(shes already ss3 , i can get a copy on her next rerun)
wait till beta to see how nirvatia works
Hello, who should I ss3 thanks to the free selector between solacetune, pyroath, startrail and parhelion? Already got wanshi and oblivion ss3
nanami
Me demoted? Are u sure 
nanami pulse 
real
pwowq caught
Nuh uh it just one tap 
wantap hax
Nanami, if you’ve already got all the meta units, Ishmael’s basically stuck in Nihil. unless you’ve actually invested in her properly
#IAmNotAMetaHelper #IAm.TheMeta
No u, I'm washed
k ppclao
What does it mean to "invest in her properly"? I do have her sig+res, i basically have infinite resources for memories
Hi washed
Demote to bully herion
Nirva confirmed next?
Yes
He's lost it
Oh:…
She's free tho
https://huaxu.app/ap/players/26291246/characters
This is the characters i have, who should i get?
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For the free S rank frame
I feel like i should get Selena, Hanying will get a replacement soon, right?
Phys is not real
So newton was lied
Wdym disaster
Not like they did anything anything important in beta

shes full free
Why does this sound like we get one copy + 50 shards lol

cause we do
Because it is
free ss5

ss2 without ppc 
Like lilith
like tebby
like wanshi
Tebby aint free unit and 50 shard 
Better than those two
Tebby just free 50 shards
better cause she sells herself for dirt cheap 

She is super free character

Watch as her dmg dog shi
Wow, easy 3s
def not a jinx


Omgggg nice i can save skulls

Thats a given
However, Booba monster #3850 will become teddy free after the patch ends
Now place ur bet which one phylotree kamui or alopha
But as long as it's her patch its better than lilith's
So your telling me you can basically get her to SSS within a week or two of the patch dropping for free?
Damn do we know the class and elem
Nihil amp
No way 

Yuo
No need to pull dupe
Where are the bros who kept saying she's A rank 
Play event first dupe to unlock
Get 50 shards for ss + 20
Get pain Cage for 30 more
And 40 more shards for sss
surely the free dupe wasn't a typo
Alpha
That's crazy, she might be Veronica bad, I don't trust kuro

Nah trust me nihil amp be gudge 
She's free unlike vero so
Who
So she's going to be capri like
Noted
Wait nirva is free?????
So a brick untill SSS? 
This is not really generous u know
They just don't wanna make a ranks anymore
Surely the whales will LOVE 6 S ranks in a row
So generous
They've caught honkai impact 3 disease
As for newbies? Enjoy your -500 skulls, USB, HT mats

Thank you Kusogames so generous

Ik I just like to gas up kuso generous shenanigans 
Right I forgot we must praise them
Kurogames the best most generous company
Where am I supposed to find extra usbs man?
W, this is player friendly
Ik one
||Weapon banner||
Might have to sacrifice aylas wep

Pray on double or off rate 
With what pulls, I'm not touching a banner next patch?
Ded patch smh
I need usbs for kamui too smh
Wait they giving weap for free too?
Nihil amp we all cheered
Hmm yeah ok she's gonna be chopped
More amp options for bricked amp teams now
Last time we got back to back amp it was Vera then Vero
Wasnt it vera, Dmc, bianca then Vero?
What the fck
But Vero was phys, that team will be dogsht as long as hanying exists I'm afraid
Ok
he'll likely ask if any of his units (prob cw) are still meta/good
No he won't cuz he quit gaming a year ago
Give him head pats and sugarcoat him 
Gib him rc
This
No you gib ME rc

SS alpha = washed

👴

Im gone
Can I continue with my current account, or should I create a new one?
Yeah
you can continue yea
Thank God you have nana
nana:))?
startrail
oh
Oh my god brah 🥀
Nanamech
ahhh hahaha
That's nanaknight
my bad my bad

Wait izat nanamech
hihi thanks guys
Maybe its pulse
Ok good
you mean this one ?
Yeah
thanks god
Nanaknight

If it was nanamech you're cooked
Don't try to do hero wz
:0
You gonna get your ass beat that with alpha
the usual weeklies
also we have an s-rank selector rn
;-; what's should i do now
Play the game
oh ok

so dont touch the wz right ?
No

just do wz
oh:0
dont trust these gatekeepers 
Do everything
😊 okay guys
oh
Slackers are there
:)))) maybe its hard for me hahaha
And they got S+ characters
oh god;-;

guys, does anyone have a guild;-;

can they fix nanami voice
Now that nihil is complete next patch surely new uppc boss nihil
Shield with 35m boss hp would be insane
Yea allat and mado is still alive maybe when ice attacker drops will get kicked out
this one finished downloading all the beta packs, now just gotta wait
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My whole nihil team finna be ss3
holy moly they give 50 shards on top of the regular free copy
I guess they really don't want people to be using Lilith instead

yo guys can you explain to my lil brain how to get SSS nirvatia?
is she on the debut banner
Yeh but ur gonna pull?
i think I'd want a SSS amp
Who should i get from the thunderbolt research ?

i don't think i can get rosetta now😭
Preferably nana
Why
Why would u pull for free unit than uma
Usually for free unit yeh
Can't confirm, need to see beta in a minute
Aight thanks
You don't have her yet right?
ya, just got back the game not long ago. missed alot of characters haha
thinking between lucia/nana
Alright, can still rock with gen2 characters haha
Ish work with her or not anyone deep dived to that?
Btw, nanami startrail 
Not yet, just showcase skills for now


Im looking forward who will get leap
Is rosetta 3s huge upgrade compared to ss3?
dat sythe looks sick tho
it has been out in like 10mins what do you think
No leap next patch
This is the only thing i waited beta
I go back later
Yeh, it will take a while for that
seems like she turns breaker
Atleast kuro not dum dum

the icon glows breaker in battle right?
where ya watching pops
why’s she on fire team
Haicma recycle smh
looks more like basic nihil class to me
Oh Ishmael, you disgrace
I mean ishmael observer passive using breaker instead of normal tank class for nihil

??
Haicma recycle

What the hell is even this, more affixes?

Wtf Kusogames no leave us alone
So....
Disruption is the second affix of main element huh
Interesting 🤔
wait shields are gone??
Is that nihil zone?
She uses SCYTHE???
GOHDAYUM
Hot
Finally another foe to the good ol honkai maido
Do we know Nirvatia's role from beta info?
Yeh

So no annihilator or observer shenanigans

Ig Kuro decided to treat nihil as a normal element now
Is that Morigan's voice
While it can work, leaped Watanabe is a better choice because he does and shreds darkflow damage directly
should i... build dark team :P?
idk, just anything that could make my game more easier to breath 💔
ohhhhhh, that time i got like 3 CW in 10 pulls
nhm, oke
ohhh, so she gonna be main dps 💔 ?
Current main DPS darkflow is CW powercreep: Liv Limpidity
awh
But don't worry, new Alpha is coming 
:O???????
cant wait
she better have insane moveset
RAAAAAAAAAAAH
Also don't forget to pull Rosetta
which rosetta...?
Arete?
Yep
got her here!

Now get Nanami Startrail from the selector and you'll only be missing physical, which is ok to miss tbf
uhhhmm...
5 rainbow card...
UHHHHHHMMMMMMM...
ok so
imgoingtof2pforeveraintit...
also her signature?
Yeah
okiiii
also, how about the physical meta? who is the best?
From that beginner weapon selector, iirc Luna's weapon is the last of it
Selena Pianissimo is the attacker and main DPS
Veronica Aegis is the amp and mid
Hanying Solacetun is the tank and barely hanging there, in dire need of leap or replacement
o... ic
OIOIOIOOI I DIDN'T SEE NANAMI'S SIG WEAPON-
Hello, Ishmael is more SS3 worthy than hanying from the selector right?
Already got the other gen 3 SS3 and especially wanshi SSS
Yep
Alright
what hypertune on bianca?
How does nirvatia work with Ishmael?
Or are we not allowed to talk about the betq stuff
We are but no one knows yet
Ish became breaker



Low invest powered video?


Ig they're planning to add more affix stages even though some of it isn't even completed yet
Wuwa isn't a meta reliant unlike pgr
No sht
Yes sht u can fix ur characters there by balding building their stats
In pgr u cant do that
So....no new voucher shop character confirmed?
Pull
Nirv is free
Nirv copy+50 shards+weapn+cub all free
Well yea....but is there any new stuff for voucher shop? 
You just need 40 shards left to voucher for SSS
Wdym more affix
Did I miss something

Void is now shieldless and disruption is its own zone now
Look here
i just want to know the voucher shop for S ticket picking 
What is Kuro cooking 
What the fck does that even mean
Disruption rework? No way 
I can't read graph duh
Nihil has been stripped of its identity
About time for the new list
I had to update sht for Rose
What it says in beta
Note on TrueSlash team somehow still being Vergil
I was very afraid of how I was gonna apprach nihil but Nirv has now made my job a lot easier and harder now
What about leap no character getting one? Fate alr said to me earlier no one is just confirming
remove vergil mention
what does the new girl amp
That's fabio's list not mine
Honse wher 
Honse slash gud
@deft apex
nihil
Nihil Disruption amp
I already said, its been confirmed weeks ago. No leap smh


Kamui better be a physical breaker...
Instruction uncleared he'll be Phys Attacker instead

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Honse op
Do we have beta footage btw
youtube has some 
Would
Not
Thanks
Scythe users would always be hot 
Ayla wasn't
true

She was just too much goof
wait, doesnt she use a spear?
If she's serious she can babysit me
the other frame
Ah
hey guyssssss, will Liv Nexus rerun...?
No
:<...
why...
its not a collab char ;-;...
patience my child 
WHICH MEAN THAT BEAUTY CAN RERUN!?!?!?!?!
if kuro ever decides to yes 
the integration sped up power creep like crazy. maybe they’re trying to fix that so units don’t get phased out so quickly? if that’s what they’re doing, it actually makes sense.
this is actually good and playerfriendly, you get to play your favorite unit longer
I doubt they ever make any sort of decision with Global players in mind
Another FOMO banner?
We are irrelevant to them cause we make like near no money
Idk
Nirvatia special free banner
Maybe like Lilith
It will kinda work like Lilith banner
they just keep making these dumb banner types for absolutely no reason 
The 50 Nirv shards, weapon, and cub will be in the service shop meanwhile
Her shards is in service shop, same shop as teddy

No special banner
WTF KUSO
as if they couldn't have given her free copy in the same shop too lul
5 FCKING CONSECUTIVE S RANKS
This banner is how you get the initial free copy
But this banner will only be around on Nirv's patch
Post-Nirv the only way to get her is unlocking her in service shop
Bro's talking like he's gonna SSS em all 5
so it is a fomo banner 
I need a breather man, this bish prob need reso atleast
Technically? But i's free so um
We're getting it better nowadays cuz unlike wanshi and ayla, u get sig and cub for free
Better but also worse in a sense
Wdym worse
Cause now u have to SSS 2 units w vouchers
Wdym "have to SSS"
What are you implying
Sure but have fun with the units hitting like paper
Are we dead ass 
Teddy good enough at ss3
Is bro still thinking SSS is bare minimum?

Not in Radiance
Bigger numbers always dosent mean fun
So hard to talk about the game nowadays when most people are already out of touch with the game
Keep catching strays here and there
Me fine with ss3 teddy
@hoary dagger 9s chaos where? 
https://youtu.be/Y8OyENYlxYU
Team investment:
[SS3] Solacetune + 6* Weapon [Shred + 15% ATK]
4x DaVinci + 4x ChangWuzi [6 ATK + 6 class]
Dreamwing [100 ATK / 10% Phy Dmg / Hanying skill]
[SS3] Veronica + 6* Weapon [10% ATK + 8% ATK]
4x Phillip + 2x Catherine + 2x Keats [6 ATK + 6 class]
Scared Rampart [100 ATK / 10% Phy Dmg]
[SS3] Arete + 6* Weapon [30% ATK + 15% ATK]
4x...

Espada burned out leave hin alone
Factory made him washed

Pak u ss3 midnica mine ss0 
Wo
Wow shutline pfp
Idk why I instantly recognized him
U got burn ref?
Memory set for ishmael anyone???
232?
For nihil she uses 4 soth 4 cottie
For other team it depends but mostly 4 dv 4 guin holder
2.332 212
it's not meant to be public
but thanks for reminder

Wait why 112 it's 111
That's 1 reso only more
Watafak send link in DMs 


this yellow hitlag too
whatshould i do with this
nothing, u already screwed up
okay. so how do i fix it
she uses cottie, not patton
but the four piece is fine lmfao?
yeah lmfao
literally new ong
is being helpful optional or
guysm is Discord gud? Cuz i see potential in her
Useless because of Arete
From a meta perspective
did you check what I used on me horsey? 
A-ranks usually are not meta material by default
oh-
U talk with a gigawhel
But he a troll type kind of
So not get him serious
Also he had truth on the build
First build the general set
Which is 4burana 2 cottie
And harmo cottie when can do
I can take digimon down to ~3.5 hp bars after core even with cottie, and cottie is absolutely useless there lul
you use bunsen and it's the same as my ss3 midnica 
Numberlao, do Bunsen and Patton stacks together?
Digimon is the dino right
yes 
they do
Remove 2patton
Put 2cottie level it up and reso the set
actually, bunsen buff is better than ss3 midnica buff lul
thanks
okay, so how do i correctly reso the set? is there a specific ability i should link or what?
also thanks
Yeah lower reso should be core passive, upper reso can be anything with atl
Atk*
whats the lightning ppc setup with ishmael?
I assume you have Liv?
Oh um
Heisen is better than Natasha
Natasha is an S+ build only
As for ish, 4Guin 4Sam
2Sam 2Lantern if you have the mems
4Sam is technically stronger but barely and the field is kinda hard to take advantage of with how much Liv moves
no davinci?
Nanami is the DV holder in PPC
If you need to swap to Ish to do an insta ult2 kill, 4Guin 2Cottie 2Sam
gotta switch to natasha for darkflow?
No
Erm DF build kinda depends
Im not sure what the requirements are for when Liv should hold 4Poin or 4Bath
But she def would not use Natasha
Natasha is just doodoo
Ishmael 4guinivere 4samantha
Nanami 4davinci 2eins 2gloria
Liv 4Heisen 4Cottie
Some runs can run 2cottie 2samantha on Ishmael if she's needed to abuse Liv's off-field dmg
What does it gives
7% atk buff
liv is atk/sig right?
What rank
SS
Core
Why is that a bad thing
Core
Felt
Nanami leap when
Yeah
No reason to keep ult reso Nana once you have Liv



















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